60he community modding

[tired creek]

If you don't have the covers, use another oring instead

[sonic knoll]

so i will put the o ring like normal but put it at the standoff

so the kbdfans are the same lol

[tired creek]

Layered like this:

Head of screw
Oring
PCB
Oring
Standoff (Case)

[sonic knoll]

yea an if i dont get the standoff i just put another o ring. i get it at first i though i could put the kbdfans through the case like a normal o ring but it is for the standoff only

[tired creek]

Yeah

Here is the original video that shows just the mounting method
https://youtu.be/SQcdgUKV6dU

BadSeedTech based his off this video

[tepid urchin]

I think it’s easier to call it isolation tray mount

Instead of o-ring mount. People tend to think of the big gummy o-rings between pcb and plate

[tired creek]

Burger mod

[fast basin]

FYI I got these covers included with the Tofu60 I ordered.

[feral siren]

I've tried two different set of pe foam sheet, one the old school way of cutting up anti-static pe foam, another with a pre-made (stupidfish)

the impact on the sound quality is very very very limited

I don't know what it is about the pcb or plate

but pe foam mods just don't take well in my experience

you're better offf just doing a standard tape mod, and experimenting with different keycap materials

I finally settled on a set of GMK i like the sound signature of

ALSO ALSO, the nature of the swithces lacking a center stem stab really affects its susceptibility to pe-foam modding the most.

probably a key point there

there's a certain 'flat' quality to the HE Lekker switches, there's just no working around it

[hollow basin]

Hmm that’s interesting. Im still going to experiment with the PE foam cus from my experience, that little difference seals the deal for me. Im definitely going SA profile to bring the thock out, and better stabs for sure. But thank you! I just wanted to make sure there wouldn’t be interference with the analog portion of the board due to the extra material between the board and the switch

I’ll tune it nice and post it in here 🙂

[feral siren]

it doesn't, you could stuff pretty thick sheets in there and the switches SHOULD adjust, but consistency is another matter.

there's no tuning for what doesn't exist

IN my experience

best of luck to you though

but you're gonna run into that issue. the distinct lack of the center stem for these analog switches more or less denies any possibility of getting that signature 'pop' sound

[sterile cave]

Did PCB pads and over tightened bottom screw losened it and yeah very little difference in sound

[hollow basin]

Thank you, I will do what I can. And if I can't, I will just do it out of spite >:)

[feral siren]

yeahhh that's the spirit 🙂

[eternal silo]

does pe foam and switch pads work on the 60he

[fresh jackal]

And now we wait for keycaps...

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/476806133386969110/1033712966379511908/IMG20221023140536.jpg

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/476806133386969110/1033712966010409111/IMG20221023140548.jpg

At least I can now safely say that BBox cases are compatible with some modification with certainty.

[eternal silo]

nice

[eternal silo]

wb tofu60 acrylic? is it compatible, cuz the last time i checked it wasn't in the notion

[fresh jackal]

Someone just has to reach out to get a case on the list if they've done it successfully.

Tofu 60 is already there and I don't think the acryllic version is any different.

[zinc ice]

which one will you take?

[fresh jackal]

XMI Runic Purple Keycap set + NorDeUk kit

Ended up with this one.

https://cdn.abicart.com/shop/ws75/111175/art75/h2486/192842486-origpic-d1f0d8.jpg

Bit pricier than I'd like for what they are for - But I couldn't say no to Furthark 😄

[zinc ice]

ok you didnt lie by nordic

[fresh jackal]

It also comes in Hiragana and Russian Cyrillic.

[zinc ice]

👍 👍 👍

ive received my blade60, but itll stay empty for an other month

[abstract creek]

Has kbdfans stopped manufacture of the Blade 60?

[zinc ice]

No idea, but seeing how they're selling it and most colors are gone
Id say yes

[fresh jackal]

They're produced in batches - I imagine they're looking at demand versus minimum orders required to make a new production. It's not cheap to produce things right now, so they may be waiting until demand is there and prices go down a bit. 🙂

[zinc ice]

I prefere my answer even tho yours makes more sense

[feral siren]

you can put them in, and the keyboard will function... but they don't have the same effect for sound they normally would on boards with standard switches with the large center stem (which the HE switches distinctly lack)

[daring smelt]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MHmjkLUdYrU

anyone seen a similar case that has a polycarbonate underglow like this that would dwork for the wooting 60he

[fresh jackal]

Not to my knowledge, no. My best suggestion would be to grab a frosted Tofu case and then do a "pudding keycap" on the top with a bit of light sandpaper, painting tape to cover off the side/bottom and spray it with black primer (and maybe some sealant)

Also keep in mind that the 60HE PCB does not have a lot of "underglow"

[daring smelt]

I think the glow from this case comes directly from leds in the case, im not sure though, idk how its powered either

but ive seen polycarbonate rbg cases before so im wondering if that has to be built into the pcb inorder for it to work

[fresh jackal]

It would have to connect to the PCB somehow, yes. To be powered - unless there's a second USB cable.

[daring smelt]

for example i guess

[fresh jackal]

Or if the LEDs used on the PCB itself have underglow.

[daring smelt]

ah ok I see

thanks for the help ill look into it

[fresh jackal]

Here's the underglow for reference. Through a thin layer of pillow padding

[daring smelt]

is this your build?

can you share a parts list

[fresh jackal]

https://mykeyboard.eu/catalogue/cyberspace-x-buger-works-box60_2490/

That's it.

Do keep in mind that these cases will require either permanent modding (removing additional standoffs with tools) or sitting the keyboard very high compared to design and having an open USB port on the back with a lot more gap than intended.

(With standoffs - "normally" they are recessed into the case)

Recessed (yes I have two of these)

[daring smelt]

This is such a fantastic build i love it

might be too hard for me, i might try the frosted tofu first

i love the case tho

[fresh jackal]

Fits my theme at least 😄

[daring smelt]

thnks for the help

[fresh jackal]

[frosty geyser]

What is the screw size of the pcb attached to the plate?

[fresh jackal]

M2 I believe.

[frosty geyser]

Got it. Will M2x5mm screw being too long to attach the PCB to the plate?

[fresh jackal]

The keyboard comes with two spare screws - Did you lose them? 🙂

[frosty geyser]

Nope. Haven't received 60he yet. I'm thinking about getting the nylon screws to attach to it, just to try whether it will change the sound.

[fresh jackal]

From what I can tell they are M2x5mm.

A wide head is important to make sure it holds the PCB.

[frosty geyser]

Got it. Thank you so much for help.

[fresh jackal]

[mystic blaze]

I think for purple case, these keycaps looks nice:

[fresh jackal]

Definitely an option. I think I might just go stock Wooting black with the purple case - And then my 80s retro on my 80s retro board.

[mystic blaze]

tbh, I didn't like the black ones on purple... but all preferences

[fresh jackal]

Just trying to save a bit of money. 100€ for the other set was a bit much 😄

[final python]

i spent almost 700 euros to make the wooting keyboard the best experience 😄

im gonna make another 200 euros order 3 weeks before the wooting arrives

[mystic blaze]

did you get the pixel universe?

[fresh jackal]

Couldn't find a seller outside of Ali.

https://cdn.abicart.com/shop/ws75/111175/art75/h2486/192842486-origpic-d1f0d8.jpg
Grabbed this set for my grey case.

[final python]

thoughts

[fresh jackal]

It needs something different than black 😄

[final python]

thats too.. "slim" for my taste..i need accents!

something saying hello\

like a custom keycap

😄

[fresh jackal]

It was the best fit for the case I could find. 🙂

[final python]

you do u master 🙂

[fresh jackal]

Had to match the style of the Mac on the left. 😄

[final python]

ive another question

ive heard tachyon mode is only with static rgb

is it still the case?

[fresh jackal]

Yep. It's a sacrifice to push the latency as hard as possible.

[final python]

ok good. i will do mine yellow cuz i did a custom yellow theme

@fresh jackal#archived_wooting_60he message i did this hex code color u recommended

i hope when the keycap arrives it will be awesome

[mystic blaze]

for yellow accents I can suggest gentleman keycaps?

[final python]

thats TOO yellow, no?

[fresh jackal]

That's definitely more of a cartoon banana yellow than the strap. 🙂

[mystic blaze]

you wanna match the strap yellow?

[final python]

u asking me

?

[mystic blaze]

yes

[final python]

the cable

i try to match

i will swap the cases

case

[mystic blaze]

I think it matches the cable, that yellow

[final python]

tofu60, i will put some 10 cents in the first dent in the bottom, foam and lot more

[mystic blaze]

what does the coin mod do? just for weight? or sound too? most of the cases are aluminum anyways, adding coins would help sound?

[final python]

weight and sound

cuz

the case of tofu

has a lil uhm

wait

u see the dent

there i will put the coins

then foam

[mystic blaze]

I have drum60 case, full aluminum but it sounds so weak and tiny

[final python]

pack it up! 😄

@fresh jackalwe need a pet channel

😦

[mystic blaze]

I have medical cloth and some foam in, 3 layers of tape mod, lubed the switches but nope

[final python]

hmm

[mystic blaze]

coin wouldn't help either probably

[final python]

switch films

not the

one u put in between

the one on the pcb

wait

i got a pic

cuz i ordered it too

but then u need to to 0,3mm

[mystic blaze]

wouldn't that effect the distance?

[final python]

ye.

u need to adjust it from 0.1 to 0.3

u as a human dont feel it

but the sound

will be much sexier

[mystic blaze]

I don't care about the sound so much as I only use that keyboard with headphones, so wouldn't do that much change for the sound

[final python]

feel will be diff too

[mystic blaze]

for productivity I use different keeb

[zinc ice]

Will they be the good format for lekkers?
Seen a dude on youtube saying he couldnt find any

[final python]

cuz its like a pillow

[final python]

that fits

i did so much research...even tho wooting keyboard comes january

[mystic blaze]

I've glued a pe foam above the steel plate for sound and feel but didn't work out 😄

[final python]

cuz im so huped

hyped

[zinc ice]

Mine come in november
I ll go with blade60 and full black blank keycaps
Will prob lube them later when ill have time
Its my first real mec keyb

So idk if lubing will change my life lel

[final python]

i already recieved my blank keycaps but i ordered 3 more keycap sets

one jelly pom milk

one blank black

and the one i showed

[zinc ice]

I want to try those to go on wasd (zqsd for me)

[final python]

AND i have 2 more keycap sets at home

lol

[zinc ice]

https://www.wasdkeyboards.com/textured-cherry-mx-keycaps.html

[final python]

so many keycaps for wooting to test

im thinking of buying gmk honeys

idk

the money i spend for keyboards is insane rn

@fresh jackali have a SPECIAL keycap which u WILL like...but i keep it low and when my wooting arrives i will show it to u and u will be happy

cuz u helped me alot and i bought 1 keycap to remind me of u ❤️

[fresh jackal]

[final python]

yes

but SO much nicer

[mystic blaze]

🙂

that's mine rn
those dust and dirt is not visible at all irl, hate sunlight photos

[final python]

thats my current setup

and my keyboard sound is legendary..11h in this build

@fresh jackalso...do we get a pet channel? pog

[mystic blaze]

for what though? just for you and mansen to be alone 😮

[final python]

yes..jealous?

[fresh jackal]

https://tenor.com/view/hold-on-wait-a-minute-somethings-aint-right-hold-up-somethings-wrong-here-gif-17361118

[mystic blaze]

nah, I am not into, well, ducks...

[final python]

alr lemme send it in here

BE HYPED

I CANT

omg

wait

[mystic blaze]

🙂

[fresh jackal]

Miki and Kian says hi - Now leave us alone.

[mystic blaze]

I would have expected the name to be Donald, not Miki

[final python]

[fresh jackal]

They're adopted - We decided not to change their names. 🙂

[zinc ice]

i got the tai hao, but they're black and i want an azerty. So if anyone in france is interested, i could give them

[final python]

thats pamuk - wool in turkish

[mystic blaze]

those are stock pbt keycaps with hk gaming rubber keycaps

[mystic blaze]

way kardeşim 🙂

[zinc ice]

my bad, mine are hk rubber too

but black...

been using them for a year or more, so they're a bit used

[mystic blaze]

they feel different, not bad, but not great, and yeah, saw comments that they wear out easy...

[mystic blaze]

not wool though it means cotton 😉

[final python]

Isn't it wool?

[mystic blaze]

wool would be yün 🙂

[final python]

oh could be ye

[mystic blaze]

thought you were turkish too

[final python]

i am

xd

[mystic blaze]

ahah, but don't know turkish?

[final python]

im born in germany

parents are turkish

[mystic blaze]

ok 🙂 understandable,
I am in Austria but only for 6 years now

[zinc ice]

my moms algerian and doesnt speak a single word of arabic

she understands bad words tho hehe

[mystic blaze]

if you wouldn't understand bad words in Turkish, you wouldn't understand Turkish at all 😄

[zinc ice]

same in french,

i think the first words you learn when you change a country are those

[final python]

okok guys this is modding 60he xd

[zinc ice]

what do you think of these kind of keycaps

https://www.etsy.com/fr/listing/1221960978/colossus-nickle-plated-metal-mutant?ref=yr_purchases

[final python]

hell nahw

[mystic blaze]

fugly 😄

find a saitama keycap

[zinc ice]

would they be too heavy? and will they play on hall effect

[dusty swan]

If just using for the esc key you could just set a higher actuation point for that key if you're concerned about the weight

[hazy sentinel]

I understand this completely. Spent so much in the past month for a satisfaction75, onyx, werk one, and moon tower.

[final python]

moontower v2?

[hazy sentinel]

Yeah

[final python]

from where u got that

[hazy sentinel]

Reddit

[final python]

huh

where

i wanna buy moontower too

lmk

[hazy sentinel]

R/mechmarket

[final python]

shipment to germany?

[hazy sentinel]

It’s rare to find someone but when you do, it’ll cost a arm and leg.

It depends on the seller.

[final python]

2300 dollars

i see

ye money is not the biggest problem

shipment and the customs

[mystic blaze]

[swift yarrow]

I found this cap set at a thrift shop for three dollars

THREE

I have no idea what they are. Can anyone identify?

[sterile cave]

What characteristics do da kaps have double shot sublimated dye ?

[swift yarrow]

Not sure about the plastic. Single shot stamped/printed legends.

They're coarse, if that means anything

[sterile cave]

Then im guessing sub dyed oems but I don't know the specific name for that set

[sterile cave]

Can anyone link me kda profile keycaps preferably in the US that are translucent

Been tryn find a set for a while now

[feral siren]

Just wanted to share for the record and say getting these stabs to this point was a nightmare (especially left shift stabs).

Never working with plate mounts if I can help it (unless wooting makes a 75)

[zinc ice]

Good to know, i wont then

[sonic walrus]

Ayeee we got the same theme going

[inland hornet]

belafonte is so clean

[quick eagle]

What caps are those

[feral siren]

GMK Belafonte

[quick eagle]

ty

[sinful yarrow]

I have a question about the burger mount. For those who have opted for using a silicone standoff cover instead of another o-ring, is there a major difference?

[hazy sentinel]

No, they act like the same thing.

[final python]

i mean they look like three dollars 😄

[fresh jackal]

"This thing is beyond your understanding, my child. Think no further on the matter and maybe you will read the riddle in the end"

Got some new keycaps for my 60HE that fit my retro case slightly better than my black Corsair ones. I gotta say it looks pretty good once everything's together.

[fresh jackal]

This is also the ONLY time I will defend using a coiled cable - For that old 80s/90s look 😛

[mystic blaze]

I just saw this pic on Keychron server

ahahah

[fresh jackal]

I somehow doubt this unless someone's posted it there without my knowing

[fresh jackal]

I demand royalties

[final python]

what a giu

guy

[fresh jackal]

https://kbnordic.eu/keycaps/xmi-runic-purple-keycap-set-nordeuk-kit.html
It's these keycaps if they're curious.

[final python]

xd

[mystic blaze]

and I understood it without seeing you posted that here...
why is your setup occupies a space in my brain?

[quick eagle]

Bru

My "probably" was a reply to another message lmao

It just sent late cause of bad wifi

[mystic blaze]

I didn't mean it as a bad thing,
sorry if it sounded that way

I just wanted to inform Mansen as it's nice to see people like his setup

[quick eagle]

I probably should have said something in here too cause it is a nice setup

[woeful pawn]

Soo, whats the best custom case people have found up to now?

[nova pivot]

best in what way

[woeful pawn]

Looks and mounting style, although theres no best

[strange torrent]

Blade, tofu, fjell, Klippe T are the ones I know fit

Which is the best of those alone I don’t even know

[woeful pawn]

ohh the fjell and klippe are tempting

[proper robin]

I've been enjoying tofu so far

[fresh jackal]

I love my BBbox cases. Lego/IKEA plastic cases you have to put together yourself, and with some foam/padding it's a cheap and unique look. If not super compact and requires some tooth pulling with tools to be compatible for the 60HE. 🙂

[daring raft]

https://kono.store/products/kat-cyberspace?variant=32095260704851 is this one basically the same as the bbbox?

thinking of buying tthe set

Compatible with GH60, GK61 and GK64 PCBs

[fresh jackal]

It IS a BBox case, yes 🙂

[mystic blaze]

don't forget to check Mansen's posts about it,
He had to mod it, to make it work

[fresh jackal]

HOWEVER

If you want a 60HE in it, you will need to permanently modify the case.

[daring raft]

ahh ok thanks :)

[fresh jackal]

Only the five standoffs that the 60HE use must be present. If the others are there, expect your 60HE to die when to try and screw it in. The unused standoffs will impale components ( I learned this the hard way )

[daring raft]

Thanks, that looks like the kat one, IS it the kat one?

[fresh jackal]

Yep.

[daring raft]

Wow do you own the caps by any chance?

[fresh jackal]

Naw. I heard some things about the legends being a bit off. And it doesn't fit my style.

[daring raft]

Fair enough, the reviews are all over the place

[fresh jackal]

This is with Corsair keycaps - Wooting will look similar.
Do not that I mounted the PCB too tall here. The keycaps will sit lower.

More like this when done properly.

[daring raft]

both look great

[fresh jackal]

(Yes I have two cases 😄 )

Another thing to note - The case is pretty hollow. You may want to find some ESD save pillow stuffing or something to fill into all the side gaps and below the PCB.

You can kind of see I just pushed wads of it into the case, then forced the PCB on bit by bit to move the padding out the way (it was very springy, wouldn't lie flat 😄 )

[daring raft]

does that make it higher pitched than the wooting one?

I'm a big fan of the sound as is

[fresh jackal]

I am no expert on sound. I just noticed it was noticeably less hollow sounding after I padded it up properly.

The 60HE uses a foam pad - which doesn't fit well in the BBox cases, due to the reinforcement bars everywhere.

[daring raft]

Ahh thanks

I think I need to buy some stabilisers first actually

I dont know how to fix them

[eternal silo]

has anyone successfully attempted this yet?

3d printing a PC plate for the 60he, i suppose

[woeful pawn]

that january case looks so good, looks like it might fit the 60he

[tired creek]

Center USB, so you'd have to figure something out

Has anyone soldered a USB-c connector to a JST cable before?

[fresh jackal]

Has anyone been sufficiently bothered by the screw holes in the plate showing through to look for some rubber plugs or something? I can't stop staring at the center hole 😄

[mystic blaze]

what are you using?

[zinc ice]

Could u take a picture how it looks on yours?
And what did u try to hide it?

(I dont think it ll bother me tbh)

[fresh jackal]

I haven't used anything - yet. Which is why I'm asking 😄

[mystic blaze]

I meant consumables

[fresh jackal]

Eh?

[mystic blaze]

¨I can't stop staring at the center hole¨ felt like a sentence to be told by a substance user

https://tenor.com/view/i-feel-it-droop-droopy-eyes-gif-8991026

[fresh jackal]

Ah haha.

Between G and H. Now you can't unsee it.

[mystic blaze]

wtf, mine is not that visible

[fresh jackal]

White on white 😄

[mystic blaze]

maybe the keys are a bit smaller

[fresh jackal]

Maybe a tiny bit - These are cherry profile.

No rotation of switches needed. 🥳

[mystic blaze]

stick a small piece of painters tape on the plate

white one

[fresh jackal]

Yeah that was my makeshift idea. Buy some electricians tape (cause it has a shiny surface which matches the plate) and just put small pieces on once I'm done lubing.

[mystic blaze]

do you use 60he as main keyboard?

[fresh jackal]

Yeah for about a month or so now.

No other board.

[hazy sentinel]

ngl i kinda miss the dedicated f-rows

[velvet spindle]

Mod tap works great

For that

[fresh jackal]

Can confirm. Took me a few days to get used to, but I've converted. I still have the FN ones enabled if I need to hold the keys though.

[velvet spindle]

I use it for core ones

Though I do think mod tap needs to be refine

D

Switching weps via numbers can be annoying with mod tap

[proper robin]

Same thing here

[quick eagle]

Can't you buy like small white stickers

And put it there

[sterile cave]

Anyone else notice the g key since it's next to a screw hole sounds clanky? Or loose

[proper robin]

I feel like my H button is kinda like that?

Not loose but kinda clanky

[daring raft]

I used some plastic foam / polyethene

To fill the center gap

You can cut it roughly into a cylinder then it's squishy enough to poke in

[tired creek]

Does the board have foam between the plate and PCB?

[sterile cave]

Good idea on the foam bit I might try it

[sterile cave]

Ye

[sterile cave]

Put square melemine block in fixes clanking

[autumn tiger]

What are your thoughts on SA keycaps?

[glacial harbor]

i use sa and i love them

very tall but they sound rlly good

[spiral hearth]

Isn’t the plastic used going to make a bigger difference in sound then profile?

[glacial harbor]

i mean its a bit of both

it is quite a bit taller than cherry though

[final python]

the hole be like "hello there". just put white tape on it

[final python]

white tape on it no?

[final python]

oh he did it

[quick eagle]

does the 60he support stepped capslock?

[fresh jackal]

Not unless the cap has a centered stem

[pine zenith]

60HE case swapped to an E-White Tofu60. Monokei WoB Keycaps and a custom black and white slimline straight cable.

[boreal roost]

any suggestions on premium feeling cases for the 60he?

[hazy sentinel]

Singa unicorn

Only if you’re okay with milling a hole though

Other than that usually a tofu is everyone’s go to

[boreal roost]

milling a hole is easy

how much does it change it from its original state

does it affect how it performs by any means?

or make problems?

[hazy sentinel]

Not at all

It’s just do you really want to mill a hole through a 600+ keyboard case

[sonic knoll]

did anyone put the lighter springs in there board and do you have a sound test or does it change the sound at all? I saw the badseed said that it doesnt change the sound but saw a few others saying it did.

[boreal roost]

600 in what currency

[fresh jackal]

USD/EUR I would imagine.

I took powertools to both of my 50€ third party cases. Lot less stressful 😄

[boreal roost]

im a bit to handy in the tools so fuck it i took tools to me 1000d

[proper robin]

Tofu60 is great with the keeb

[eternal silo]

does anyone have an image of the shape of 60he's plate

[fresh jackal]

https://github.com/WootingKb/wooting-design/tree/main/wooting-60he

Image? Or the files for?

[fresh jackal]

Also please pick a lane - No need to ask in every channel imaginable 😄

[fresh jackal]

IMO the best Wooting Easter egg to date for those who weren't there for the Founders Campaign at least.

Quickly taking my 60HE in prep for new stabs and relubing of all the switches tonight.

[eternal silo]

eh just the image ig. just wanna compare it to other common plates for now

[fresh jackal]

One sec. I incidentally have the plate handy 😄

[eternal silo]

i did heard there are 3d files for it. i am interested in 3d printing a polycarbonate 60he plate someday. problem is, will pc even be compatible with the lekker switches?

[eternal silo]

my bad i am an all-laner

i scour the entire world for answers

[fresh jackal]

The issue with custom plates is rigidity - If the plate flexes it can cause serious issues with the sensor signals.

Which is why we use metal.

[eternal silo]

at this point i dont mind sacrificing actuation point issues for a custom plate 🥲

[eternal silo]

pog

[fresh jackal]

Here's an ISO plate with nothing on it, @eternal silo

[eternal silo]

oh thanks

sorry for bothering

[eternal silo]

do you have an ANSI one aswell?

[fresh jackal]

Afraid not - This was a lucky coincidence since I'm lubing my personal board 😄

[eternal silo]

dude didnt you already have like

3 custom 60HEs

how many wooting boards do you have lmao

[fresh jackal]

Naw - I have a single 60HE and two custom cases I've been switching between. 🙂

[mystic blaze]

see the color of their name

[eternal silo]

yea i know its a wooting team member whats up with that

[mystic blaze]

you can't be a team member unless you own 3 60hes

[upper mist]

I don't have any 60HEs at all

Truly don't understand how someone can operate a keyboard without a numpad 😐

[mystic blaze]

your purple always seemed off tbh

[mystic blaze]

depends on what you are doing though,
if you are only fps gaming and chatting, it's just useless

but if you work in a bit technical work, yeah, it's needed

[fresh jackal]

I used to be in the same camp - And I still am if I need to do a hour of admin work in excel.

But I've gotten so used to my 60HE and arrow key shortcuts that I haven't really felt the need to switch out my 60% for a larger one.

I know some programmers who swear by 40% or smaller. They just learn layers and master them.

[mystic blaze]

for MacOS I am ok with 65% but for windows I need at least 75%
it's been so long I last used numpad, so I am OK for now for the work
but if I use full layout again, it might be hard to go back

[zinc ice]

How long does it take for a pro like u to lube them?
As ive never used a real Keyboard, i dont feel the necessity to do so

It looks so exhausting to me

[fresh jackal]

A pro? Ahahaha... Never done it. I've set aside four hours or so and a couple of movies.

It's just a question of doing it while your brain is elsewhere as I see it. Time will tell I guess 😄

[zinc ice]

Yes, please, tell us how long it took u hehe

[fresh jackal]

I can say this much - Taking the PCBA apart fully definitely makes picking switches out faster. Took me 3 minutes from start to finish to completely remove everything from the plate.

[zinc ice]

Oh yes, im not afraid of taking off and rebuilding anything
It just looks pretty long for me tbh (the lube part)

Im sure its rewarding

But idk, im pretty sure the sound will be nice enough for me
Maybe when ill have used it for a few weeks

[proper robin]

It definitely takes time

Think it took me like 2-3 hours as a complete newbie

[feral siren]

This is a HUGE no no with regular boards... but with these opticals, it's SOOO nice and satisfying to do.

[hazy sentinel]

isn't it better to use the screws that came with the Klippe?

[fresh jackal]

Usually, yes.

The 60HE PCB doesn't have any threads. You're just locking it in place between a standoff and the screw head.

One Lekker switch lubed, 60 to go 😄

[fresh jackal]

Progress as of roughly an hour later. This is the "advanced" lube approach that lubes all components, not just the stem

[feral siren]

It’s always worth it

[feral siren]

Yis, it’s nice. I felt so degen and yet so satisfied just pulling the switches off the pcb while on plate. 😉

[fresh jackal]

Almost done now-

[feral siren]

It will feel so goooood, when you finish.

[fresh jackal]

As the kids say - Bet.

The sound profile is so much nicer compared to my two spare switches for control and comparison.

[fresh jackal]

Closing (up) time.

[fresh jackal]

Like typing on clouds. So soft and smooth now - Will have to clean up the desk and do a sound comparison tomorrow.

[sterile cave]

Da pillow stuffing 😂

Did ya tape mod or naw?

[fresh jackal]

Yeah this case is super hollow, so you really gotta fill it out with something.

No tape mod - Put it together and figured it sounded exactly what I had hoped for, so didn't open it back up for tape.

[naive rose]

Is a 1.6mm plate going to cause issues

[sterile cave]

Probably

[fresh jackal]

Quick before and after sound test. This is with the full on "advanced" lubing approach that Calder shows off in the official video, with me being generous with lube (just enough to shine but no white showing anywhere*)

World of difference now that I watch them back and compare. Definitely worth those 3 hours or so.

[zinc ice]

Mmh idk
Maybe you should unlube them

||jk 🤡 ||

Gg

[fresh jackal]

[zinc ice]

The modifiers difference is great

The others too, but theyre the most impressibe

[kind kraken]

What modifications need to be made for box60 case? I’ve got a kat cyberspace one I was gonna put my 60he in when I get it

[fresh jackal]

You gotta pull some teeth.

[tired creek]

Assuming you need to clip the unused standoffs. Anything else?

[fresh jackal]

That is basically it - One sec.

You gotta pull out all standoffs except for the five that the 60HE uses.

Otherwise you'll unalive your keyboard like I did with my first one. The components are all on the bottom side of the PCB and will get crushed by the unused standoffs.

Don't use the included standoffs with BBbox.

If you do so, the PCB and thus keycaps will be floating above the edge of the case, and you won't be able to use the USB plug piece.

It'll be way offcenter.

I also recommend finding some ESD safe fluffy material to fill out the case with. Cause it's VERY hollow and the little compartments everywhere aren't easy to put foam pads into due to all of the structural parts.

Ideal result.

Hope that helps - If you need more help feel free to tag me. Got two of the cases and a lot of practical and hard earned experience with them now 😄

[light sleet]

anyone using the wooting wrist rest with a tofu 60? The profiles are a bit unmatched right?

[muted wolf]

Just put my wooting in a tofu case, was wondering if anyone has a fix for fixing the hollowness of the spacebar? Thanks

[twilit marlin]

i can't wait for my 60he 0-0

[sterile cave]

Either fill it with foam or put some kind of putty

I put like 2 players of paint I had left over on the inside on the bottom not the walls and it made it sound more solid

[full shard]

https://kbdfans.com/products/spacebar-foam this makes your spacebar sound way more full

[zinc ice]

just put chewing gum

[muted wolf]

i’ll try this

[mystic blaze]

jokes aside, band aid works really good for spacebars 🙂

[zinc ice]

yes please, dont put gum hehe

[crimson stratus]

I just tried heat shrink instead of holee. Sounds just as good, and seems less likely to come off

[hazy sentinel]

does anyone know any good wooden cases for the wooting? sound stupid, but i dont like the actual look of wood but the sound profile is great. hence why im not using the tofu60. thanks

[fresh jackal]

So... recommending the tofu in wood is out of the question? 😄

[hazy sentinel]

preferably xD
i love the look of the tofu60 aluminium stuff but i thought it sounded quite... tingy? from the wooting case review video

[daring smelt]

Not really a mod but any rec for keyboard cases with a mouse

I wana carry both

[boreal roost]

light sand and paint would do the trick

[boreal roost]

get a pelican case cut out all the bits for both mouse and kbd

[hazy sentinel]

😬

actually

no thats a good idea

the case is piss cheap so i might just do that

[boreal roost]

yeah seriously man wouldnt be too hard

umm

not sure if the tofu60 being a chinese manufsctured case is like got the really polishy cant epoxy feeling to the outside if so

spray paint it

[hazy sentinel]

im just trying to figure out a perfect keyboard setup before spending £400 on one

my blue switches are too loud for recordings so i cant use a noise gate to remove the sounds

so i thought why not just mod the 60he for the smoothest keyboard possible

[boreal roost]

ahh youre working with sound

okay cmon youre a sound guy then

how do u get good stc rating without doing crazy things

whats that common material huh

you should know

[hazy sentinel]

i have no idea what stc is

[boreal roost]

mlv?

sound transmission class

or something

just buy some really dense mlv

[hazy sentinel]

for what??

lmao

[boreal roost]

15kgm/2

for inside the case

[hazy sentinel]

oh

[boreal roost]

you can get it from like 5kg/m2

[hazy sentinel]

i was thinking just making a custom silicon base

[boreal roost]

in like 1mm

[hazy sentinel]

because the keyboard doesnt need to be silent

[boreal roost]

this would work better

in those regards

[hazy sentinel]

i like high quality keyboard sounds and a linear switch can be cut out with a noise gate very easily

[boreal roost]

it reslly takes more piecering bass out

[daring smelt]

Interesting, u kno a good size

[feral siren]

You could kill that with some foam and forcebreak methods no?

[sterile cave]

Did that with my 5 degree case and case pinging is non-existent

Just stuff your case with foam and push down on it with your PCB when installing it and listen as all the hollowness disappear

When I got my case when my nails touched it the case was practically reverberating all the noises from my fingers

[abstract creek]

Does Burger Mount accomplish the same thing as this Forcebreak method?

[hazy sentinel]

Only if you want a little flex

[feral siren]

Yis

[boreal roost]

they sell sooo many man umm literally just measure your stuff, to be honest over compensate with it as you might end up going oh i wouldnt mind chucking something else in it blah blah but dont go too big just a decent size one

[young ibex]

did you ever find one

[rain geode]

!Caldoen

[mystic blaze]

I need recommendations for the sound...
I am kinda ok with it as I only use for gaming with headphones
but if I can make it better I would 🙂

hard thin foam + medical cloth
3 layers tape mod with thin PE foam in between 😄
Lubed switches
stabilizers are OK, I did everything there is to be done 🙂
abs doubleshot alphas - modern dolch
pbt dyesub mods - gentleman
case is drum61 aluminum case

[limpid crow]

What size tx switch films are people using? .125mm or .15mm.

[hybrid rapids]

I wouldn't know of one, the USB-C bottom is the culprit. The silicone case is intended to be as low as possible.

[sterile cave]

Go for 5-6 layers of tape and try putting more foam in the case

I put thin switch pads on mine

[mystic blaze]

no more place for foam tbh

[young ibex]

awesome. I'll wait for the silicone case. ty

[heady flicker]

Nope, waiting for the Wooting one 🙂

[sterile cave]

5-6 layers + foams small silicone coverings on standoffs swapped plate foam for more jelly like one put switch pads and lubed switches and stabs

[mystic blaze]

I believe it's mostly the switchpads difference but yours sounds really nice
I don't wanna put switchpad (or anything that might effect he :/

[sterile cave]

It will change the height your switches will be at but only at most 0.1 mm higher

Mine still registered at 4mm

Made sure plate screws where snug tight

I got thin foam ones

[mystic blaze]

I blame my case but probably it wouldn't change with another aluminum case either
rn checking if I should get maze64 - I can use the pcb on this case, and use the case for 60he

[sterile cave]

You could just look into plate films

And put them under the plate and above the plate foam

So it's fits more snugg

Without messing with sensor detection

I put these on my other 60% and it helps a lot with eliminate hollowness on metal plates

Putting plate films on top just mutes the switches a bit

[fresh jackal]

Yeah... about that. Those are not great with Hall Effect switches.

[sterile cave]

You can put them under the plate not above it

[fresh jackal]

There's a reason we use a top plate that's super rigid and not flexible - Sensor accuracy and tolerances.

[sterile cave]

So it's only between the plate foam and plate

[fresh jackal]

I mean feel free to try - Just don't be surprised if the switches don't behave properly 🙂

[mystic blaze]

do you know who confirmed maze64 for 60he? I see it on the list, and would like to ping them for some sound test 😄

[fresh jackal]

No clue.

[mystic blaze]

did you put 60he in maze64?

I would really like to see and hear how it is 🙂 I might buy too 😄

[daring smelt]

how much was this build? i love this

[mystic blaze]

the case is 40€
the keycaps are 50 for dolch and 50 for gentleman
but I was using their rest for other build 🙂 so it's like only 50 for me 🙂
the artisan on the escape was 4 eur from ali

[quick eagle]

There should be a channel of just pictures of people's 60he

[mystic blaze]

@feral siren it was nice 🙂 why did you delete 🙂

[feral siren]

@mystic blaze or go no pads no pe foam (I tried those got really fatiguing on the 60HE unlike other poppy builds)

Ps. Repost Jesus I m such a mouth breather

Because recording on phone makes me sound like such a filthy mouth breather xD

Held my breath xD

[mystic blaze]

you did electric tape and what kind of foam?

[feral siren]

No I ditched electrical tape.

HE switches sound ugly to be frank, electrical tape brings that out too much. Swapped to painters tape, two layers, default Eva-like foam that Blade60 comes with and a layer of 100% cotton sheet between foam and pcb

I cut the blade60 foam into large puzzle pieces to break up the flat sandwich sound

Blade60 is probably one of the thickest Aluminum cases for this size class. If you hate the asymmetrical shape you’re out of luck though. Personally love it, stands out from other box style cases I have

[mystic blaze]

what do you think of maze64?

[feral siren]

Honestly i haven’t looked, I m happy enough with Blade60. I think I m done modding the 60HE, short of news of a breakthrough in plates printing and working well.

Next project will likely be an Alice format keyboard with tactile switches

[mystic blaze]

I am waiting on keychron q10 🙂

[feral siren]

It’s out I believe ;p I m holding off to see if there any other nice Alice keyboards with an F row

[mystic blaze]

I meant, I am waiting the shipment to arrive 😄

[near plover]

would the wooting 60he only work with tray mount 60% cases?

[mystic blaze]

yes I believe
there is poseidon60 gasket mount on aliexpress with similar plate to wooting 60he for ANSI, I am curious if it would work with wooting...

but flex would make the HE switches go weird

[near plover]

hmmm im thinking if it would pretty much work with any case that takes the dz60 pcb

[mystic blaze]

the problem is plate
switches are not secured to pcb but to the plate

[near plover]

even if the case is meant to be gasket or top mount, maybe you could stack mount it with layers of case foam, kinda like stack mount on the mode65

[mystic blaze]

till now no one is successfully changed the plate I believe,
there were some who ordered custom made ones, but never heard from again 😄

[feral siren]

Woo ❤️

[near plover]

ah ok, imma just order a 60he and try haha, if anything i'll just chuck it into a tofu

[white sundial]

Hi I just wanted to ask to be sure, I have been looking for a nice set of Nordic keycaps but having hard time finding ones with the right dimensions on the bottom row.

I know I have to rotate the switches 180

these are cherry profile, but they do need to be 1.25u so they wont fit even after rotating the switches?

Sorry if its a stupid question, I am very new to keyboard modding! 😅

[mystic blaze]

ok, I took out the medical cloth and used the muji organic cotton between foam and pcb and yeah it works better than before
still not enough, but it had much more effect than the previous foams I tried

kudos to you sir

[mystic blaze]

right bottom row is the same as the left so feels like the one you have shown works

[upper mist]

That image looks like the bottom row has 1.25 and that they additionally provide a few extra keys of various sizes

[fresh jackal]

That set looks like a perfect fit.

[white sundial]

Thank you so much, this makes me soo happy been eyeing this set for 2 months now 😍

[fresh jackal]

It even fits 2HE 😄

[white sundial]

it had all my want criteria, black, blue, space and yellow details! 😆

[fresh jackal]

AND a tiny little alien spaceship. I love it 😄

[upper mist]

Yea those are some nice looking keycaps 🙂

Very spacey, perfect fit with the Wooting future-tech 😛

[mystic blaze]

the picture seems to be a render though, is there any real life pictures?
I am curious if they look as good as the renders with the gradients and all

[proper robin]

I bought a set of traitorkeys and the LEDs shined through them, really didn't like it

Looked really good without any backlighting but otherwise wasn't a huge fan

[white sundial]

look at the little astronaut tho and alien 😭 😍

[mystic blaze]

those can still be renders but I wouldn't know 😄
looks sick though

[fresh jackal]

I need something like this in more of a purple colour.

[white sundial]

I will be testpilot then will make sure to uppload pics after I got me 60he in ~2 weeks with and without backlight! @mystic blaze

[mystic blaze]

with the vintage looking case i think it might not look good,
you need sth 8bit 🙂

[fresh jackal]

I already have the retro case covered. I need something for my transparent cloud purple one 😄

Pretty happy with how this turned out.

[mystic blaze]

@feral siren that's before and after adding the organic cotton between pcb and case

[fresh jackal]

It's this one I need to find something cool for - And get a second PCB I suppose. 🤔

[white sundial]

absolutely love those keycaps!!

[mystic blaze]

I feel you
I can't stop but thinking there is an empty case sitting there 😄
even for stock wooting case 😄
if I knew I can sell it I would definitely make another build with it so it would be used
I hate stuff that are not used...

[white sundial]

something like this but more spacey?

[fresh jackal]

Mmm maybe.

[white sundial]

very pretty keys

I kinda wanted them but they reminded me to much of twitch merch 😂

[mystic blaze]

[fresh jackal]

I could add some black, smoky transparent keycaps and just have the board do a starry night kind of animation. Keys lighting up like purple stars here and there.

[mystic blaze]

now you said it, I can't unsee

[fresh jackal]

No one has it 😦

[mystic blaze]

someone on keychron server got it but they didn't put it on a keyboard yet

[white sundial]

woow those look amazing

[mystic blaze]

and it was just for 49$... sold out

[white sundial]

sounds like a bargain!

[white sundial]

I'm not sure what I think of the translucent keycaps they kinda remind me of those old n64 translucent controller, its both nostalgic and annoying at the same time! 😆

[fresh jackal]

That is kind of the look I'm going for I guess - Because the case is basically N64 purple translucent 😄

[white sundial]

okay thats pretty cool!!

I take back what I said, thats 100% nostaliga 😂

[daring raft]

What keycaps are these? I don't like the colours but the transparent sides are cool

[white sundial]

I stumbled on this picture, it has stars, starsigns, space, purple! Sadly I'm not sure what the name of them are!

[mystic blaze]

pixel universe
aliexpress has it for 100+$
but I first saw it on keychron for 49$, unfortunately they are sold out

[daring raft]

Thanks

https://www.keebmonkey.com/products/keytok-ctrl-semi-transparent-keycap-set?variant=43300120166615 found a similar set

[mystic blaze]

[feral siren]

A PSA, the default case foam that the 60HE comes with, the under the PCB one, makes for AMAZING spacebar-filler foam, best I've seen yet.

[sterile cave]

Pog

[mystic blaze]

sounds like a good idea, but I wouldn't wanna ruin the stock form - big dilemma 😄

how did you put it there though? used glue or sth?

[feral siren]

Cut it up into pieces that almost fit and stuffed them

[white sundial]

My keycaps arrived today

actually exceeded my expectations irl!

the colours look super beautiful irl, now I just need 14 more days for the 60he to arrive

[fresh jackal]

[upper mist]

Ooeh those do look nice!

[mystic blaze]

🔥

[civic plover]

Has someone tried to paint the plate black, or use a different one that is black? I don't use RGB so I don't need the white for reflection but want to build an all black keyboard :)

[fresh jackal]

Definitely possible - However keep in mind that the paint will chip a bit when you push in the switches again.

[civic plover]

Sure, but it's already paint on the plate if I'm not wrong..? (I don't have mine yet..) So it could potentially chip anyway while modding the switches..?

[fresh jackal]

I think it's anodized from the factory in white - But tools can definitely scratch it if you go hard at the switches. Paint is thicker though and cracks more easily.

[civic plover]

ok I will keep that in mind, thanks!

[hazy sentinel]

You can try cerakoting it

[fresh jackal]

Ceracote is expensive and from what I hear brittle af. So definitely read up beforehand.

[nova pivot]

idk about brittle. they use that shits on guns. and nothing can be brittle on those

[fresh jackal]

It still cracks off on those.

[spiral hearth]

I need some help. My 60he is coming in NA-Haze. I have a gray Tofu60. Which keycap set would you go with? Both have elements of gray.

[nova pivot]

true but with the amount of pure force and friction those parts endure id say a steel plate should have no issues especially cus of how stiff it is

[white sundial]

oo just checked out the tapemod vid, feels like a good mod for me to try out since I havent modded a keyboard yet! 😄

rly like the sound of it

[white sundial]

I would say the one with the blues, those are super pretty!

[mystic blaze]

green is the key,
if you have green on your desk go with green
but if there are other colors than green might be too much

[spiral hearth]

I have a RGB theme for my PC with some green/blue in it. I also have a gray Mode Sonnet coming in November too. The black/white/gray set can go on that.

I like the thinner legends on the bottom set too

[mystic blaze]

you answered yourself 🙂 go with the green one 😄

[spiral hearth]

Sorry, I meant I have another theme. Right now it’s all white. The comments helped me lean towards the teal

[mystic blaze]

do you have a picture of your setup?
not that I would be very helpful but only suggest what I think

[spiral hearth]

Old photo

Switch case to the Hyte Y60 to accommodate a new GPU

[mystic blaze]

it looks like bottom one would be OK with the cable and all...
not exact match but still

the top one is just playing safe 😄

[spiral hearth]

I have a gray (to match the Tofu) cable that is not coiled. Heard issues with coiled cables and the Wooting

So it’s entirely neutral now

[mystic blaze]

it's mostly rgb that gives the color

so I would say go with the grey so even if you change the colors it would still fit

but then again, you have both of them, you can always switch back to grey even if you go with the green one 😄

I wanna add, I like the whites of the top one better than the bottom one
they are more old-greyish white

I don't like fridge white keycaps 😄

[spiral hearth]

Fridge white… oh no. I hope I can unsee that now lol

[mystic blaze]

and one more thing: I think modern dolch would have looked good on your setup
they have teal accent keycaps too,

[naive rose]

Custom gasket mount plate seems to be working fine so far

[tired creek]

What case are you using?

[sterile cave]

Noice noice

[naive rose]

kbdfans d60 for now

Only thing I could find in stock

Only cost about $50 usd to get the plate cut

[tepid urchin]

The plate looks so shiny, is it stainless steel?

[fresh jackal]

Would love to see more pics and hear more about the plate - We do have a lot of people asking about custom plates, so if you could talk more about it, I can definitely use it for others 🙂

[naive rose]

its brass, the camera never picks up the color quite right but I swear it looks like normal brass in person lmao

Most custom case designers provide CAD files for their plates so combining it with the wooting one wasn't too hard

Just line up the holes for the keys, keep the key and stab holes from the wooting and keep the outer edges from the plate of the case you want

It's cut from 1.6mm thick brass, which doesn't look like it's a problem yet, each keys seems be fully functional across the entire analogue range but I need to test the min and max activation points to double check

No one stocks 1.5mm brass unfortunately

[tepid urchin]

I know, still waiting for mine to be delivered (alu).

[naive rose]

Good luck! I noticed most laser cutting places don't really treat parts as cosmetics so the surface is usually scratched up pretty bad

Someone linked these standoffs earlier https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005002102312212.html

Which is what I used to attach the pcb to the plate

Everything else is standard gasket mount

[naive rose]

I think that covers everything but anyone can @ me with questions

Standoffs

Yeah if anyone's looking to get one cut, especially with local places, would strongly suggest asking for a scratch free finish

[tepid urchin]

Mine has surface treatment

It should be fine

[zinc ice]

I want to see fish inside

Jk, ive seen this case and would love it

[spiral hearth]

people say that a lot but at the end of the day it's pretty much an O11D with a glass corner instead of a 90 degree angle

I needed something to more comfortably fit the 4090 FE

[zinc ice]

No its really nice dw

Im a bad troll

[spiral hearth]

oh I'm not taking any offense. I find it funny. I'm just surprised I didn't get the same comments having the O11D

I will say though, it was probably the best or easiest case to build in

[zinc ice]

Maybe the fact that its angled makes it look "bigger". Like, there is more glass surface

[zinc ice]

Nice

[sonic walrus]

these switches respond so well to lubing, its amazing

[stuck linden]

anyone happen to have know how the rgb does with acrylic cases?

[fresh jackal]

Don't expect much. The LEDs primarily shine up through to the keycaps. There isn't active underglow

As you can see the case itself doesn't have a lot of passive light, it's almost entirely on the plate and keycaps.

[strange torrent]

Any Dutch people here who have cerakoted their keyboard here?

Can you recommended a company to cerakote your keyboard in or near Netherlands?

[white sundial]

is that chocolate ice-cream!?

[fresh jackal]

Chocolate and salty caramel.

I blame Erik on getting me hooked on salty caramel.

[white sundial]

oh my god that is my fav flavour 😭 😍

[mystic blaze]

salty caramel my fave too 🙂

[round tapir]

anyone know what unit spacebar 60he is?

[fresh jackal]

6.25

[round tapir]

ty sir

also got my new board in the mail a few days ago, everything is perfect so far @fresh jackal

[fresh jackal]

https://tenor.com/view/kejsi-dance-cheers-cheering-cheer-gif-22826735

[mystic blaze]

that's a very high fps gif

[mystic blaze]

60he in maze64 if anybody is curious

[exotic haven]

how can i remove the stabilizers¡?
The ones that are not for the spacebar

[mystic blaze]

the same with the spacebar?

they are just the other way around

[exotic haven]

had to flip

thanks

[exotic haven]

Recently assembled a switch after lubing

but cant click it

Any help?

[fresh jackal]

Did you make sure the stem turns the right way?

[exotic haven]

That is the part of the video i cannot understand

i mean the bottom housing has two vertical lines

[fresh jackal]

One sec. Lemme get you an example.

[exotic haven]

and i allign the stem to those

[fresh jackal]

See the little wing?

[exotic haven]

yesds

so with what part of the bottom housing should i allign that?

[fresh jackal]

It needs to point away from the side with the hollow hole, where the LED shines through. Like so.

So grab the bottom house, then push the spring on, then the stem and rotate it so the little wing/leg part points away from the hollow part, then push the top housing down on everything with the "window" on top of the big hollow.

Like so.

[exotic haven]

done

i need to push

the stem down

towards the hole

right?

Because if not, it might not fit

[fresh jackal]

https://youtu.be/WN_-GYLTfpY?t=552

Like Calder does at this timestamp*, yes

[exotic haven]

yeah im watching that videfo let me check

[exotic haven]

this was helpful

[fresh jackal]

It takes a few tries to get the hang of it. By switch no. 59 you're doing it without thinking 😄

[exotic haven]

instead of using the twiizers

i can use my hands right?

[fresh jackal]

I did - Because after a couple of switches that was just easier. And I used a piece of paper to do it on instead of my table to soak up the bit of lube I'd spill. And then some toiletpaper on the side to wipe my fingers.

And after a couple of switches I started taking 5 apart at a time and doing the same part 5 times before putting everything together to speed up the process.

Just keep in mind the teal coloured stem's magnets will stick together, so don't lie them too close to each other 😄

[exotic haven]

did you changed the springs ?

[fresh jackal]

Naw. I already have a bit of a problem with accidentally pushing and holding keys when not looking.

Half the time my discord chat says sssssssssssssssssssssssssss

[exotic haven]

lol

Is there a way to delube ? @fresh jackal

[fresh jackal]

Toilet paper I suppose.

Grab some q-tips and go ham

[sterile cave]

i just removed some lube from my akko silvers i used 104g0 and it feels weird compared to 105g0 i just whent over the stem with a dry brush wipeing away the extra and cleaned the brush each time and did the same with the center hole in the bottom housing the nylon akko uses in its houseings are definitely something else

[plush remnant]

What case fans are those? They look very nice

[spiral hearth]

Lian Li SL120

[pine path]

break cleaner 😅

[exotic haven]

ok thanks!

[exotic haven]

Can someone help me? I cannot lube the stabilizers

I cannot remove the wire from the plastic things

@fresh jackal any help ?

[tired creek]

https://youtu.be/ly_bvrwTlpk

[exotic haven]

yup

done

@tired creek i cannt assembly now

[exotic haven]

Fixed it

Can the grease cause a PCB short circuit?

[uncut surge]

It is dielectric so no.

[exotic haven]

ok are there some switches that harder to put?

Because some dont want to enter easily...

i need help putting 21 switches

they wont fit

[tired creek]

Make sure they are facing the right direction and push down evenly. They won't really go in at an angle

[exotic haven]

im doing so

but its like these switches the plastic case is like touching the metal case

And so they wont fit

[tired creek]

Take a picture, might be able to help that way

[exotic haven]

@tired creek

[tired creek]

Did you take the switch apart?

[exotic haven]

yeah

[tired creek]

Trying pushing the switch housings together a bit harder

Those pieces on the side should sit more flush

[exotic haven]

ok

yeah

i mean it didnt work

but i had to reassemble it

[tired creek]

Not sure what you mean

[exotic haven]

I had to disassemble the switch

and assemble it back again

[tired creek]

Oh ok

[exotic haven]

Ehm

i assembled badly the housing

thats why they dont fit

[regal anvil]

Just bought a fjell case (grey), ZealPC plate mount stabs (discounted) & the 60HE 😎

Endgame moment

[abstract creek]

Which stab kit? The transparent plate mount?

[regal anvil]

Yessir

[exotic haven]

Which pudding keycaps are the best? I bought the steelseries prism caps. But what about Hyperx ?

[balmy ermine]

Question, anyone know if you can use coiled cables with these switches lol just cuz all the magnetic fields and that or is it pretty negligible

[fresh jackal]

https://youtu.be/U8ojU_8ASVE

Yes - But.

[balmy ermine]

Ah right 😕

[oblique nymph]

I wonder if anyone's tried gummy o-ring mounting the 60he in a similar way to the bakeneko's

[tired creek]

I'm in the same boat. I'm going to try it with mine, but I don't get my 60HE until January

A few others have talked about trying as well, but haven't seen any updates

[oblique nymph]

Same here, plan is to just do a burger mount though

Too lazy to source a seperate gummy o ring just to test it lol, if it works out send it here to see the result

[exotic haven]

Quick question: I bought a Crystal Crown G Skill keycaps (ABS) and a Steelseries Prism keycaps (Double shot PBT). Which of them is better, anyone knows?

[fresh jackal]

Material wise PBT is generally considered superior.

[exotic haven]

Yup, i heard that... The shiny thing on the ABS and those sort of things... But also i heard that ABS are lighter keycaps, so wouldn't that impact on my gaming and writing skillls? Lighter = better?

[exotic haven]

Im putting some steelseries prism caps, but, i can see part of the switch. Any ideas why?

It's like the keycap is higher than the ones that come from the wooting when installing them

[fresh jackal]

They should be identical in shape as the ones from Wooting. Both are standard OEM profile.

[exotic haven]

mmm

Let me take a photo

nvm

you are right

[fresh jackal]

You're probably noticing it more due to the light on the sides. 🙂

[exotic haven]

im noticing it because I only putting three keycaps

[tired creek]

CannonKeys sells Bakeneko orings separate, 60% length for $5

[exotic haven]

I believe that when the keyboard is full the keycaps start like blocking each other side

Thus making it to not see the switch

[exotic haven]

ok so recently i compared the keycaps

i believe number 8 has quite an offset

compared to these normal wooting keycaps that are all the same:

any ideas why?

nvm it was the switch

wasnt sitting properly

[regal anvil]

Yo. Should I buy the gmk honor in white or gmk noire?

To fit my grey fjell

[hazy sentinel]

I like the honor in white with dark addons.

Oh wait, it doesnt come with the spacebar. Nevermind.

Full send on the noire!

[eternal silo]

yo has anyone found successes in plate swapping their 60he yet? (especially fr4 or pc!!!)

this probably is the only hope for plate swapping

[tired creek]

Those materials are probably too flexible for the Lekker switches to function properly. Especially if you are going to have a really quick actuation point

[open echo]

Any recommendations on a frosted case, I don’t have my 60he yet so idk which cases will work and new to cases for keyboards.

[wintry bear]

GH60 compatible is what you're looking for

[hollow blaze]

Foam, tape, o rings, custom gasket mount, lubed switched and here she is. Posting sound test in a minute

[glacial harbor]

@hollow blaze its been more than a minute :(

[abstract creek]

Looks REALLY nice. Every time I see this case, I question my decision to buy a Tofu.

[oblique nymph]

Not a big fan of the assymetry tbh, looks like a wonky fjell imo 😭

[mystic blaze]

custom gasket mount? I am curious to see...

[eternal silo]

sadge

[eternal silo]

tofu60

also dz60/gh60 acrylics ig

[feral siren]

Every time I see a tofu I immediately feel relief I didn't do the 'clean' aesthetic route.

[mystic blaze]

come on - maze is not bad either

[feral siren]

I m not a big fan of the low profile look

But I can totally see Maze hitting just the spot if you WANT the low profile look

Also, damn it looks super clean with that wrist rest. @mystic blaze something I will never be able to truly enjoy

I m not a wrist rest guy, but whenever I see one I do wonder what it might be like

my hands are broken beyond abuse at this point but yeah

[mystic blaze]

I can't do without - and tbh, wooting wrist rest is the best I used till now

[feral siren]

oh snap that's the Wooting rest?

[mystic blaze]

the width and the touch is the best

yep

[feral siren]

Yeah I saw the page for the wrist rest

I like that they went for function over form, and the form is just super clean look

Oh @mystic blaze fun fact

[mystic blaze]

is that blade?

[feral siren]

I hate the way generic keyboard feet sounded (blade60 feet rubbed out pretty quick)… I have Corepad Mouse Skates

If you don’t necessarily want your 3lb (1.35 kg) keyboard to sit still it’s interesting to use this way

[mystic blaze]

ahahah - tbh, that might be really handy - as I always change position for typing or playing, and the maze is to heavy to do anything 😄

[feral siren]

yup

[feral siren]

Yeah arguably it defeats the purpose of using a heavy keyboard and it feels like using a plastic board again

But practically it's kind of nice

Also some higher keyboard feet tend to increase or even induce the keyboard pinging if you have tall feet

I do wonder if the constant movement isn't straining the usb-c port though

[mystic blaze]

if it's not too harsh or really opposing the cable, I don't think it would cause any problems

[feral siren]

Yeah I've had the keyboard freak out once or twice on me recently but i might just have too many high powered cables on my deks

[mystic blaze]

ahah just noticed - are you a vaper?

[feral siren]

yeh helped me quit the worse stuff (Smoked Cigs for 14 years before swapping to vaping 4 years ago)

[tired creek]

Someone updated a couple days ago with a brass plate swap

[mystic blaze]

I did vaping for 10 years after more than 10 years smoking - and this year tried to quit that too but couldn't 😄 now back to vaping - at least moderately 😄
I started smoking again... that was terrible - really

[eternal silo]

where are they where are they where are they where are they where are they where are they where are they where are they where are they where are they where are they

[feral siren]

did it work?

[tired creek]

Brass plate swap
#996573707235491950 message

[eternal silo]

how thick is wooting's steel plate again?

1.5mm?

[upper mist]

https://github.com/WootingKb/wooting-design/tree/main/wooting-60he
This should have your answer

[eternal silo]

is it possible to do both badseed's o-ring tray mount mod and a gummy o-ring at the same time on the 60he?

[feral siren]

The o-ring tray mount is a tight fit as it is, gummy o-ring also works specifically against being bound by something like a tray mount.

There maybe a small aural benefit/change from having the gummy between the case and the assembly (while also tray mounting), but it would be largely void of the biggest benefit of the gummy mod, which is flex….

Also Gummy I wouldn’t recommend on cases that have a tray mount system (most of which have fairly tight tolerances for the port) because of the possible strain or serious damage you may put on your USBC port on the PCB… lest you completely negate the gummy effect by tightening to the tray stems.

Boy this got confusing.

In short… no I would not…..

PS, unless you’re basically experimenting with trying to stuff a gummy o-ring to a tray mount o-ring just to see the aural impact (which would likely be minor).

[tired creek]

Yeah, don't do both

I plan on doing gummy oring, but I will be removing standoffs or picking a case made for gummy oring

[eternal silo]

thank you for the enlightment

[eternal silo]

how's pc plate on the 60he?

me casually replying to a message 1 month ago

infinite rizz

[eternal silo]

by the way, is gummy o-ring even possible on the 60he?

[tired creek]

Yes, in theory.

Hopeful approach: The case is designed for gummy oring and has a USB-C opening on the back left that aligns

Heavy modification approach: GH60 tray mount case with standoffs removed and something on the outer edge to keep the PCB assembly from being pushed all the way down

[open echo]

Thank you i found one and will arrive a day before the 60he is suppose to

[eternal silo]

hype

[eternal silo]

nice to hear

[tired creek]

I might buy a Bakeneko and do some jank soldering of the JST/DB. I'll probably end up breaking something, but I think it's worth it for science

Or maybe I don't do that and try to make a USB-C extender cable fit somehow instead

Idk yet

[eternal silo]

is the 60he compatible with a GK64XS case

i figured that's what the $10 acrylic case i got was

[eternal silo]

this one

its a DZ60 case so it fits but im unsure about the standoffs/screws

[fresh jackal]

That does... not look compatible at a glance. The standoffs don't match up at all. That is a DZ60? I have doubts about that.

[eternal silo]

since it does seem a bit different from the tofu60

[eternal silo]

yeah

someone built a keeb with that case with a dz60 v3 pcb

rev 3/v3 whatever

[eternal silo]

if the standoffs doesn't match, i could just gummy o-ring mount it right?

[sterile cave]

Idk but the case shape doesn't look like it will even fit the wooting pcb

[naive rose]

It's 1.5mm in the CAD files but someone measured theirs all the way down at 1.3mm or something and my 1.6mm has zero issues

[lavish robin]

Any good keycap recommendations for someone completely new to any sort of modifications?

[naive rose]

So their calibration system has some room for variation

[fresh jackal]

Find a set you like, link it here and ask if it's suitable. Then people will likely recommend alternatives that look similar if it isn't.

[lavish robin]

Where should I start to look? Where do people buy their sets from

[eternal silo]

but if it does, can i just gummy it?

[eternal silo]

if i were to 3d print a PC one, do you think i should print it thicker at like 1.6mm or 1.7mm to compensate for the softer material?

[eternal silo]

since the calibration has some room for error aswell

[fresh jackal]

3D printed top plate? That sounds... very flexible. I wish you all the luck in the world. You'll need it 😄

[naive rose]

I don't think you can compensate for the material with increased thickness

[eternal silo]

bro i don't care i would print a PC at 2mm i just want that juicy polycarbonate sound man 🥴🥴

[eternal silo]

oh

[eternal silo]

what material was the 1.3mm guy using

[naive rose]

Afaik it calibrates once on start up and if the distance between the sensors and the switches changes after that then your actuation point will just be wrong

[eternal silo]

ahh i see

[naive rose]

So it's not like you can't use a flex plate you just have to live with your activation point changing

[eternal silo]

is it not possible to recalibrate it

[naive rose]

Which defeats the purpose of using a 60he I guess

[eternal silo]

haven't got a 60he yet so i havent explored wootility

[eternal silo]

?

i thought this would be a thing

[naive rose]

I don't think they ever anticipated the pcb - switch distance being variable so I don't think so no

[fresh jackal]

You can't calibrate something that keeps changing. You can calibrate a new normal, but if the plate bends up and down every time you push it down, that's not a normal, that's a curve.