60he community modding

[feral siren]

Cherry

Everglide v3

Stock - Taken from a Logitech G Pro whatever that is

Stock - Taken from Razer

And finally Everglide v3

Got everglide twice there

[tepid urchin]

I see

Is there a big difference between the everglides and the durocks, with both of them beeing made by jwk?

And did you try real and fake durocks?

Because you said yours were not pre-clipped

[feral siren]

yeah It was probably the fake durocks

the everglides v3 were excellent

[tepid urchin]

Ah okay

[feral siren]

if proper durocks do the same thing

it should be jussst fine

I am having trouble with the space bar though, honestly stock space bar with lube, albeit a little tick sounded best. all other stabs have this awful plasticky sound signature

Swapping to the stock wire helped on the spacebar.

i think the aftermarket stabs have wires that are just too thick

can't be bothered to figure what part of the board to open up

[tepid urchin]

Feels like Alice in wonderland. How deep the rabbit hole goes.

[feral siren]

if i need to cut it open or something

i refused to buy zeal stabs

i mean i m at least rattle free atm

so i give up

[tepid urchin]

Enjoypbt should be the same

[feral siren]

Left Shift being hte most important in that regard

[tepid urchin]

No if you like them don’t buy anything else

[feral siren]

I m not in 'love' but i m dealing with plate stabs for the first time

since leaving premades, and i think i m just being spoiled

i prefer sharper/clackier sounds, that are clean, so this is killing me slightly, i mean the lekker switches are kind of muted anyway it feels like

[tepid urchin]

I wish I could just thought Staebies on the board.

[feral siren]

Lol yeah

[tepid urchin]

Screw in stab support would be a huge improvement

[feral siren]

Just so anyone else can understand I know you know what I mean

[tepid urchin]

I would hate myself so much if I designed and made a custom plate just to fit plate mounted stabs and the wooting comes around with screw in support xD

[feral siren]

I think they did a full video that had half of it dedicated to stab decisions

[tepid urchin]

Oh nice

Could you link me that?

[feral siren]

Dunno what they said but probably could get an idea as to whether they ever will

Wootin YT bruh

[tepid urchin]

They never have time stamps

[feral siren]

Can’t remember

[tepid urchin]

Not a twitch stream?

Then it should be easier to find

[feral siren]

https://youtu.be/MlD8ZGYe90Y

Found it

I’d guess manufacturing cost of having screwed in stabs would be too high for the scales they’re at least dreaming of (and could probably hit with the hype behind the 60HE)

Looks like plate mount could happen. They don’t have any technical reasons for not using.

But manufacturing cost.. once again would likely go up too much.

[wary mango]

no clue about that, I was just going to buy some ballpoint pen springs

what's the worst that could happen

[tepid urchin]

Maximum would add <5$ (one extra pcb layer) but I think they could do it without an extra layer.

[tepid urchin]

Won’t work they will be to heavy and magnetic. So the switches won’t work right.

Mainboard manufacturers do 6-8 layers on a regular basis

I don’t see any problems with scaling 3 layer production

It’s just cost

I think the board should have had stepped caps, screw in stab support and split right shift with arrow keys

That would have been sick

And good for gamers

[covert coyote]

oh and possibility for a smaller spacebar/extra key down there.

[wary mango]

The LE works based on attraction?

wew

[tepid urchin]

No it works on the electric field of the circuit beeing affected by the proximity of the magnet in the switch pole.

[wary mango]

right, but how would heavier springs be too "magnetic"

[tepid urchin]

Normal springs are ferromagnetic

You need special springs with antimagnetic properties

To keep your hall effect switches working

That’s why they recalled a batch of the lighter springs

They were magnetic

[muted birch]

I am now realizing you were not taking about the tofu and were taking about the zip n fit , I got that from Amazon haha

[spiral hearth]

Well said

[hazy sentinel]

This was recently talked about in #archived_the_lekker_switch

[hazy sentinel]

Check #archived_the_lekker_switch

[upper mist]

Ooeh sound comparison is live 😄
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2GJEyTl2aNY

[ocean dust]

tha stock case is abs right

[upper mist]

That's what the thumbnail says

I assume that accurately states the plastic material it's made out of, but I don't actually know that for sure 😂

[chrome elm]

Yeah it's abs

[muted birch]

Well that just made me decide to lube my switches when I didn't want to

[hazy sentinel]

i hate lubing switches, but i love how lube switches sound

[wary mango]

thanks @hazy sentinel & @tepid urchin

I'd imagine it's going to be tough to get non-ferrous pen springs

shouldn't be impossible to get heavier springs, but 1KG might be asking for too much then 😅

[hazy sentinel]

Super nice comparison. Honestly could barely hear the difference through my phone, except the unlubed spacebar and left shift were SUPER pingy

[swift yarrow]

mr. @scenic needle you are doing the work of saints, thank you. I wish more companies did comparisons that were that in-depth.

[scenic needle]

You're welcome! 🙂

[woeful pawn]

So, i scrolled a bit but the 60he is gonna work well on a blade60?

[glacial harbor]

yes it will

[woeful pawn]

its a good fit and its gonna work a 100%?

[glacial harbor]

yes

i have it

and it works perfectly

[late jewel]

has anybody tried these with a tofu60 vs burger mount w silicone o-rings?

https://kbdfans.com/products/kbdfans-standoff-silicone-cover

or both but i think that would probably cause clearance issues when i think abt it

[rare vigil]

There is an IC on geekhack for GMK Katakana BOW (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=113857.0). But it looks to be a dead thread as there have not been updates in a year. I forgot to mention there is EPBT Kuro Shiro as well.

The back design is Wilba's Icon. Adding a more complex design would have added a lot of unnecessary cost to that board.

[willow gate]

Yep

[rare vigil]

Sorry to bring up old comments/threads, but I am a keyboard enthusiast/collector and I want to go through and answer questions people have if I can.

I am waiting for my blue Salvation to be delivered. GBs take fooooooorrrever.

[willow gate]

Same, except I’m an alice junkie

But lately have been into red and black aesthetics

Gk61
Owlab spring
Maja v2
Monokei Hidari
Freebird60
AEboards Constellation

Would love to get my hands on a Singa Unikorn

But a Ciel60 will do when R2 comes out

And I seem to have forgotten there is keyboard chat

[rigid spear]

Ciel has the usb port out the center unfortunately. That was my original plan as well.

[naive lion]

does one have to use plate foam

[willow gate]

Not really getting ciel60 for wooting but ok

[naive lion]

just get a unikorn r1 if u need to put wooting pcb in gummy o ring mount

price for entry: probably a few grand 😃

or like i am probably going to do

make a tofukorn

[neat sequoia]

Please document the tofukorn journey. 🫡

[naive lion]

i will

i think my wooting will probably take up to a month to get here though

i have a plate swap and o ring so far

[woeful pawn]

i thought you couldnt plate swap a 60he

[neat sequoia]

Yea same. I am at least 5 weeks out

[naive lion]

i think i found my keycaps tho

i might go with a nice purple build

gmk serenity compact is very nice to my eyes

[autumn smelt]

if i want to make my wooting thockier should i remove my tape mod and just dump more foam into it

[tepid urchin]

Unikorn doesn’t fit either. V1 is gummi o-ring and v2 has a daughterboard.

[tepid urchin]

That should make it clackier.

[willow gate]

I’m not getting the unikorn to put the 60he in it though?

[tepid urchin]

Why 60he modding channel then? Sorry I die not assume it to be off-topic.

[willow gate]

I’m pretty sure a lot of people would prefer the unikorn to be, just the unikorn

[tepid urchin]

I‘m pretty surge this is not the crowd for this xD someone sent their 60he back because it did not have Razer Chroma RGB …

But yes, I understand

It’s a great board

[tepid urchin]

I think you will have trouble removing enough of the pcb for the o-ring to rest on the try mount support und keep the whole assembly from flexing too much and „confusing“ the switches.

I would love to see / hear it tho.

[naive lion]

i am going to get rid of the standoffs

it will be friction fit

[tepid urchin]

I hope it works out

But I don’t get how the o-ring is supposed to flex in that design.

[naive lion]

it just will

[naive lion]

well if the entire assembly together is moving i don't see how it would harm the switch functions

[tepid urchin]

I don’t see anything moving in your design

If the friction of the o ring is supposed to keep the pcb from touching the case

Then I doubt the o ring will do much flexing

But your center of the pcb is essentially unsupported snd the o ring is pressing on plate / pcb / switch housings.

Wooting had switch problems with choosing a 1.2mm pcb instead of 1.6mm. I‘d imagine putting pressure on the pcb / switch housings could end up making problems.

Maybe do a trial run with the cheap acrylic tofu, before you spend a long time removing parts of your tofu and have it not working out in the end.

[naive lion]

i’ll make a deal

i will waste my money attempting this

and if doesn’t work absolutely perfectly

i have the old 60he case in the meanwhile

if possible i’d like to defer from cutting the pcb

[tepid urchin]

There are pcb pictures of the wooting. I thought I saw traces running where the tofu supports are.

But maybe you can add shallow supports like the Unikorns

And cut only slightly into the pcb

I‘m rooting for you

Just think twice cut once

[naive lion]

i could try this

what if i just go get my own designed case manufactured 💀

[tepid urchin]

You can do that

I‘m doing my own plate to make a top gasket mount

I think the tofukorn could actually work

[naive lion]

what if i just play the safe route and burger mount the pcb in the tofu for the meantime

^^^

tell me

pls inform me i would love to tofukorn

[tepid urchin]

By completly removing the normal support

And milling into the pcb slightly in 6 positions

Like the unicorn

And then gluing support pieces into the tofu

If the rubber oring beeing tensioned around the switch housing doesn’t make problems for the Hall effect sensors.

[naive lion]

i assume it wouldn't

[tepid urchin]

I really want to try that now

[naive lion]

that would depend from oring to oring

[tepid urchin]

Dang

[naive lion]

i already bought the case and caps 💀

[tepid urchin]

You can try the friction fit

And then use my idea, because it is better xD

[naive lion]

basically clone the inside of unikorn

[tepid urchin]

Kinda yeah

[naive lion]

it is possible

[tepid urchin]

Maybe a touch more shallow

[naive lion]

i just don't want to hurt the switch tech

[tepid urchin]

I don’t think you will do irreversible damage

You could try using a string

See if the tension affect the key presses

[naive lion]

i will probably end up recording results on actuation with a tray mount in the original board and on a tofukorn to see if it affects them badly

now the flexibility of the stock steel plate and the alu plate i have are not that different so hopefully that will not affect the tolerances either

if it does then i guess i'm using the steel plate

[tepid urchin]

I would just set the actuation of switches on the parameters too 0.1 and 3.9mm

And see if they work with the oring / string

If that is fine it should work in the case

[naive lion]

or i could get a carbon fiber plate which would actually be more rigid than steel and probably sound better

but getting a carbon fiber plate with plate mount stab cutouts is going into having it to be manufactured

[tepid urchin]

Aluminum can be very close in flex

To the steel wooting is using

[naive lion]

luckily enough the files for the plate r on github

[tepid urchin]

I think you could even try fr4

[tepid urchin]

Yep

[naive lion]

how do i get a plate manufactured tho

[tepid urchin]

I will let you guys know how my aluminum plate top gasket mount works out

[tepid urchin]

I have quotes from the pcbway and some local machine shops

There is laserboost

But they do only lasercutting

And no anl / fr4 / cf

Fr4 is just a pcb

You can order that from any pcb supplier

[naive lion]

i have never been into getting things manufactured for me

so i might have a rough time understanding this

[tepid urchin]

I would recommend laserboost for alu / brass and pcbway for fr4

It will already be a ~50$ plate when shipped

If you crazy like me (countersinking, beadblasting and anodization) you‘ll end up with double

[naive lion]

answer: look at listing off of aliexpress, give plate file, pay and wait

[tepid urchin]

You can

👍

[naive lion]

before planning much more i will wait for the 60he to arrive

or does someone have a pcb image or something

[tepid urchin]

There is a galery on imgur

I‘m traveling, so I can’t send it to you right now

But it was linked here on discord

The pictures are a touch out of focus

But it should be good enough

[naive lion]

i found an image

cutting around these traces is going to be quite tough if need be

definitely more so the right contact than the left

on the left i think i could even make mistakes thinking i cut off too much

but on the right i think one small amount and then i have a useless keyboard

[tepid urchin]

Yes

That’s why I said

[naive lion]

i think really the only way to do this is to make my own supports

[tepid urchin]

3 very small roundings ln the top and bottom

And just glue 3 spacers / round shims into the tofu

[naive lion]

and with those rounds on the top and bottom i could get rid of the side supports

[tepid urchin]

Exactly

[naive lion]

i would still have to end up cutting the board right

very small amounts

[tepid urchin]

Yes

[naive lion]

but is probably safer than the sides

now i'm thinking how i would make the supports

[tepid urchin]

I would use a endmill

Like on the unicorn

And just cut an oval

The plate should support the switches

I think you should be pretty save with this

This is so great

[naive lion]

i'm pretty confident with this

[tepid urchin]

Tofu is available and this is totally doable

[naive lion]

as long as i put the supports in the right places

[tepid urchin]

So ppl can get better mounting

[naive lion]

i can literally cut out so much

[tepid urchin]

Without chasing rare boards and spending a fortune

[naive lion]

there are large places in the pcb without traces

you can make a gummy o ring tofu without cutting anything with a special pcb

[tepid urchin]

No

[naive lion]

yes

[tepid urchin]

You can’t make your own pcb

[naive lion]

i know that

i'm not talking about wooting

[tepid urchin]

Wooting could have done it

They decided not to

[naive lion]

https://keyspresso.ca/products/limited-merro60-pcb

you could gummy o ring mount a tofu without any mods with this pcb

but ofc i want the wooting pcb for performance

in between the switch placements on the pcb there is much space to cut for supports

i feel fairly confident about this

[tepid urchin]

No you need the wooting pcb

[naive lion]

i know

[tepid urchin]

The hall effect switches are on the pcb

[naive lion]

i know

i am doing the wooting pcb

[tepid urchin]

Ah ok sorry

If you just go for any pcb yeah you can find ones that you can mount any way you want

[naive lion]

i can literally cut in all the exact same places as the unikorn pcb

it actually works out perfectly

i just have to figure how to construct the supports and remove the original standoffs

[neat sequoia]

https://tenor.com/view/big-hero6-fred-i-like-where-this-is-heading-excited-disney-gif-15858569

[naive lion]

eh i'll probably just grind the standoffs down with whatever tool i can find

also i think i might put 4 supports for a little more support like in the unikorn

4 on top and bottom

alright current plan for the build so far
: heavily modified tofu60(alu, dark purple) made for gummy o ring mount
: minimal cuts on pcb
: wooting 60he pcb
: lekker switch presumed to probably be lubed
: gmk serenity compact

: alu plate

[tepid urchin]

Removing with dremel

[naive lion]

i have heard of people doing such

but i could probably do so without having to buy a dremel

[tepid urchin]

You can

But it will be really annoying

Maybe you can use a normal drill with bits

Just don’t try sanding it all by habd

Hand*

[naive lion]

now that i'm thinking would there be any differences in the traces of the arm and avr versions of the 60he?

i think before modifying the case i will wait for the pcb to arrive at my doorstep

[tepid urchin]

There is no reason to have traces beyond the last row of switches

You can wait to be sure

[feral siren]

Yup real science happenin now

[grizzled finch]

very interested to see how it all turns out. I got a yellow tofu, and some springs to do the spring mount mod from keybored video. Excited to see the results from everyones mods!

[woeful pawn]

can you mount the 60he like the bakeneko?

[grizzled finch]

on further googling, the bakeneko has a centered usb hole, and not sure how compatible that notches are. You would have to create a left side usb c port hole and possible something with the notches.

[woeful pawn]

i meant like a o ring arround the pcb kinda mount

[naive lion]

you can wrap an o ring between the pcb and the plate so yes

[tepid urchin]

That’s what we are talking about

We are 99% sure you can, just not with the metal features in the tofu, those need to be removed and other spacers added for the rubber to sit on. The pcb also needs to have parts removed.

[hazy sentinel]

Anyone tried 60he in Fjell here?

And do people recommend replacing stabs?

[tepid urchin]

It’s tray mount. It will fit.

[hazy sentinel]

Yeah, I know 🙂

[woeful pawn]

Metal features?

Ive got a 5° at home with a silicon pour mix and oring, should do the job

But id prefer the 60he get a nice case for itself

[tepid urchin]

The standoffs and connections to the side of the case

We are talking about the big rubber oring mounting that goes around the pcb

Not about a tray mount with orings

[woeful pawn]

Tbh ive seen that type of mount on many boards but idk how it works exactly

[chrome elm]

I wonder will 60he fit in a pok3r case 🤔

[woeful pawn]

Idk whats cool about that case

[chrome elm]

I just have an extra and like the simple looks of it

[ocean dust]

are there any cases like this that also work for the 60he ?

[high plinth]

the tofu60 acrylic

the freebird60 will work right? its pretty cheap and has o rings included and also looks clean (e-coat)

[rigid spear]

it's listed as not compatible but one person showed pictures of it working soooooo

[high plinth]

i found that

hopefully itll work cause i already bought one

[wary mango]

I am back to ask if any of you folks know where I could get non-ferrous springs :^)

I'm looking to get the heaviest possible, for maximum analog-ness

[swift yarrow]

I am interested in this as well. 70-75 would be a cool experience.

[tepid urchin]

It’s difficult. You won’t know if they are magnetic until you try.

Wooting ran into the same issue

I would try to order stainless springs that are the right size and advertised as non magnetic from aliexpress and see … maybe you will have to try a few vendors until you have what you want.

[neon bay]

Aren't those the super expensive Aluvia Metal Keycaps? How do they feel? Considered them but decided they wouldn't be worth it for me.

[willow gate]

Yes, but I bought them for the aesthetics

The feel is like gmk keycaps

Smooth

[neon bay]

Ah nice ^^

[quasi lance]

Yo, did anyone has experience with pudding/prisma keycaps. I search but some are having problems with the spacebar.

[neon bay]

What problems? Interference? Or is it to heavy?

[hazy sentinel]

if your stab doesn't sound horrendous, i would recommend living with what you got .

[quasi lance]

Hey, I didn’t buy any. I just had read some brands don’t fit good. Maybe some of u guys had already have to recommend one

[neon bay]

ah yeah my fault for not reading it properly.

[covert coyote]

question for something i dont know a lot about, but my kb (corsair) with it's icue software is able to display live temperatures as colors. would it be possible to code that or has anyone done this already? (i dont think ill be able to do it myself, but its very useful for my system. i can see 6 motherboard/cpu and gpu temps all in 1 glance looking at my keyboard, i love it!)

[fleet apex]

This is my first keyboard in a long time with long 4mm travel. Have been using G915 and even laptops a lot last few years. I found typing to be hard. After couple weeks of adjusting period - still so.

Just went and put double O-rings per keycap. Lowered actuation point even still a little bit from wootility. First impressions good.

I also like the much softer and bassier sound it makes now.

Have to really put force to it, to be able to actually technically bottom out a keycap.

[feral siren]

This sounds almost sinful but to each his own

[fleet apex]

naah, it does not work when gaming. If I push W hard, so it goes and actuates at 3,8mm or something I have to go all the way to that point again for it to re-register, which requires too much force (because of the o rings). would need a harder mechanical limiter. or just forget about it.

[heady flicker]

@fleet apex That is easily fixed. I had that issue. You need, depending on force/pressure, 70-90A O-rings. Not those wimpy default 40-50A O-rings.

I use 3x 1.5mm thickness O-rings (Glorious 70A). Still looking to see if I can get harder ones but right now I can't source those from Finland

[feral siren]

I don't understand, why can't you use Rapid Trigger to get past the issue?

[fleet apex]

Per my understanding, if you push the key down to, say - something like 90% of the whole travel distance, release the key a bit, down to 70% then you have to go all the way back to 90% or past it to activate again. Problem becomes, when reaching that 90% or past it requires so much force, because the O-rings are there and resist the travel.

Now if the rings were hard enough, so that going anything past 70% or so was physically impossible - the problem wouldn't arise.

But because they are soft and spongy, it happens.

I would love to try something with insanely tactile yet short travel keys. Almost like mouse clicks.

[tepid urchin]

Using O-Rings on a Hall effect board kind of defeats the purpose …

[fleet apex]

dependant on the use case.

if you want full analog range, sure. but opens also some customisation possibilities not possible on other boards.

[heady flicker]

It doesn't. Why on earth would you think that

@fleet apex Anyho, my current full travel depth is about 1.9-2.0 mm with 3x 1.5 mm rings

[neat sequoia]

Pudding caps draw me in a lot, but all I hear are that they are terrible quality.

[ocean dust]

who has told you that ??

they may change the sound a little bit because they are thinner but other than that I see no problem

[fleet apex]

sounds very good, have to try to find a bit harder o-rings - I was wondering if even some sort of washers could work. Hard to find 90A O-Rings in stock. But you're finding 70A to be good as well?

eager to try out shorter travel more for sure.

[heady flicker]

70A is enough for me, but I've trained my touch to be light and I don't press hard at bottom out

Ideally you'd want 90A, to be 100% sure there is no give

[tepid urchin]

Hall effect switches allow you to use more of the travel for your interaction with the keyboard. Those orings reduce the travel.

[heady flicker]

No. It has nothing to do with Hall-effect in general. The word you're looking for is analog. Well. I have no use for analog other than rapid trigger 🙂

[tepid urchin]

Hall affect sensors are analog.

[neat lotus]

where can I find the case compatibility list? tried looking online but don't see a chart like that anywhere

[ruby crescent]

check pinned messages

[neat lotus]

thanks!

[unborn star]

Does anyone have a link to stand off O-rings? I'm gonna use them on my tofu 60

[rigid spear]

these are what I bought https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08F2HPLG3?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details

[nova pivot]

Damn love the tofu 60 (my first board) but seems like everyone is getting one for their wooting. Guess I'll go with somethin more unique

[hazy sentinel]

blade60 time 🙂

[nova pivot]

yeah I do like the shape. Was also looking at the A60 but not sure yet

[gritty compass]

I'm new to modding keyboards I got a 60he coming in thinking of going with white/purple case/keycaps

Can you guys throw some good cases/key caps to go for

tying to get this color scheme

[rigid spear]

Done

[gritty compass]

dammm clean af

what do I type to get dis

[rigid spear]

Not mine, someone else posted it way back in This thread

It’s a tofu case

In guessing you can find the keys on infinikey based on the box

[gritty compass]

Thank you ima look for them 🙌

[spiral hearth]

I think the Sugarplum set from Canon Keys would look sick https://cannonkeys.com/collections/keycaps/products/nicepbt-sugarplum

Check out Dark Purple here https://kbdfans.com/collections/tofu60/products/kbdfans-tofu-60-aluminum-case?variant=33834747527307

[gritty compass]

ahh shit these all look good but its $50 shipping to the UK

[calm pilot]

I would bet there’s a UK vendor that sells tofu 60 cases

[coarse glen]

mechboards.co.uk sell tofu cases

[proper robin]

Also maxgaming sells them in EU

[sterile cave]

Clean gang

[jovial sorrel]

Custom brass plate from laserboost in and painted… still waiting 🙃

[woeful pawn]

so now, whats the best case/s and mods for the 60he? we can now swap the plate without worries?

[jovial sorrel]

No idea, i just wanted the brass for a thockier sound. Wont know until i get the board. You do need the kdbfans m2 standoff kit for a plate swap, i also picked up silicone rings and did a silicone pour

[tepid urchin]

Why would you think brass makes a board sound thocky?

The thockiest sounds come from soft and light materials like pc or fr4

I increased the clearance around my switches by 0.05mm for my anodizing. I hope your switches still fit well with the paint on. The default wooting plate is supposedly really tight.

But I like the paint job

Did you just spray paint it?

[autumn smelt]

has anyone made their wooting sound milky?

creamy thocks

[mystic blaze]

I think steel plate is the problem for creamy thocks...

[tepid urchin]

I think in general that the plate is the biggest obstacle in terms of sound

I will upload a sound test of my alu plate as soon as everything is ready

Someone should try fr4

I think it can work with the switches

I just also really like the sound and feel of alu

[mystic blaze]

For another keyboard, I've put a thin PE foam on top of the steel plate. It helped the harsh sound just a tiny bit... I will try that with the wooting too, but it might be just placebo, I don't know.

[tepid urchin]

I will play with foams too ... I ordered really thin ixpe sheets from singapore let's see how good they are 😄

[nova pivot]

I wonder which plates work well with the pcb and switches

[naive lion]

you need a plate that has support for plate mounted stabilizers

[naive lion]

the tofu is here

it looks very nice

[tepid urchin]

Won't work

Because auf what @naive lion said. No plate mount sup on this plate. And you will need holes to mount standoffs

there are 8 positions. You can find the wooting plate file on github

[hazy sentinel]

If you’re willing to spend a little extra, cerakey on indiegogo will sell you white ceramic keycaps for a reasonable price. Should be shipping mid october

Caveat: only if you get the white, black, or crazed set. All other color sets will ship later due to demand of the first three

[kind kraken]

i see bbox60 on the compatible list anyone here build one with it?

i have one but havent opened it :d

[nova pivot]

something like this?

[tepid urchin]

Yes

But you will still need the extra holes

For the standoffs

But you could drill those yourself

You don’t really need the tap holes in the switch locations

Those are to open switches on solderboards

But these here are „hotswap“

[nova pivot]

gotcha

[brave field]

Is this a blade 60?

[tepid urchin]

No

[brave field]

Which one is it? 🙂

[tepid urchin]

I think I saw it on banggood

You will have to search or ask the owner

[brave field]

I like the edges like that

[tepid urchin]

But I can tell you it’s not a blade

[sterile cave]

I posted it a while ago it used to be on kbd fans

[brave field]

Oh noh, did it sell out 😦

[tepid urchin]

https://mekanisk.com/products/fjell-keyboard-case-only

The fjell is a bit like that

[brave field]

Oh fuck, was it the fjell

[tepid urchin]

No it wasn’t

[brave field]

that was going to be 500 euros with import stuff haha

[tepid urchin]

It’s from kbd fans

It’s called the 5 degree

[sterile cave]

Ye

Can't find my last post where I linked it

[tepid urchin]

https://m.de.aliexpress.com/item/32832486882.html?gatewayAdapt=Pc2Msite

Here you go

[brave field]

Ah very nice man 🙂 Thanks

[tepid urchin]

Now that you have the name

You can see if you can find it in stock

[brave field]

Im always too late for the cool stuff xD

Thanks for linking it though

https://mechboards.co.uk/products/kbdfans-5-degree-60-case?variant=40336263348429 Its in stock here 🙂

good stuff

Just making sure, the Wooting PCB would fir right

[burnt drum]

its on the compatibility list so

[brave field]

Right right 🙂

[formal ether]

youre making me want to do this to mine when it gets here

[light sleet]

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Razer-Phantom-Keycap-Upgrade-Bottom-Lasered-Mercury-White/dp/B0973RTYZW/ref=sr_1_3?crid=3R85R694Q2MF3&keywords=Razer%2BPhantom%2BPudding%2BKeycap&qid=1662683724&s=computers&sprefix=razer%2Bphantom%2Bpudding%2Bkeycap%2Ccomputers%2C43&sr=1-3&th=1
These will fit the 60he irght?

[burnt drum]

ya i think so

[jovial sorrel]

yep i sprayed it with krylon paint+primer ultra matte

[mystic blaze]

I think akko/epomaker/skyloong has a clone of it called diamond

it should be cheaper too and maybe not out of stock

[brave field]

I found it already on a different website. Thank you though! Much appreciated

[mystic blaze]

oh

[brave field]

It was only 60 quid I think

[mystic blaze]

can you share me the link

[brave field]

Currently on my work pc, will do it later okay?

[iron stone]

Hi I have a question for anyone who knows more about aftermarket cables. I'm looking into changing the color scheme of my 60He into a white/reddish combination however the stock cable will stick out like a sore thumb (being black/yellow) from what I gathered online is that bad quality aftermarket cables make Tachyon mode glitch. Does anyone have experience with other brand cables that do work with Tachyon mode? would appreciate if someone could share their experience using aftermarket cables. Regardless have a nice weekend!

[tepid urchin]

That mostly happens on bright rgb settings

high brightness white beeing the most power intensive one

higher quality or shorter / uncoiled cables

will allow you to use more power

before voltage dropoff exceeds the usb spec

keebstuff

uses thicker cables than most

even at 3m

his cables will keep you within the usb spec

on white full brightness with tacheon mode

(5V 0,8A over 24 AWG)

so essentially you can have a full coil and a quick disconnect

and it will still run full brightness in tacheon

without any problems

[iron stone]

Thanks a lot!

@tepid urchin

[tepid urchin]

No problem

[lethal idol]

Nice, I have them on my k65 currently and wouldn't have even thought to check if they fit once I get my 60he having heard the whole 'corsair has custom layouts' thing.. I think I'll be carrying them over cus that looks real fresh

[red girder]

Hi, does anyone know if it's possible to mod the stabs on the 60he to something like a durock v2

[mystic blaze]

I believe they are pcb mounted screw-in stabilizers which are not compatible with 60he as it's plate mounted only

[tepid urchin]

yes

durock v2s are offered as plate mounted stabs

[red girder]

Cool cool thanks a lot!! I am looking forward to mod mine with durock v2 stabs and a tofu60 case

[tepid urchin]

Quick stab faq:

• what stabs work with the 60he? (ZealPC, GMK / Cherry, the preinstalled Gaterons, Durocks / several other JWK stabs)
• which ones should I choose? Durocks are a JWK clone of the ZealPC stabs, JWK makes stabs in different materials for C3 Equalz and others. Cherry and GMK are basicly the same.

So if you want try one of each

and see which sound you like more

but in the end it comes down to how well you tune them

and maybe availability.

be careful where you buy. People here bought fakes on amazon and ali before.

[red girder]

Ah...this is great info. Thanks a lot!

[tepid urchin]

No problem

Do you guys want me to write a modding guide?

I thought about it

[red girder]

That will be awesome haha

Aight mate. Imma look into it. Really awesome community here haha. I'm quite new into this hobby

[pallid lynx]

are there some pictures of the plate+pcb somewhere?

[lethal idol]

Anyone thinking of just painting the stock case? Listening to wootings comparison vid I think it sounds great. Thinking of just lubing, tape mod, my white corsair doubleshot pbt keys and painting the case white

[narrow blade]

Pretty sure Corsair uses a nonstandard spacebar size.
Also, just get a white plastic case instead! Should sound about the same as the Wooting one if you add the foam and everything, and would look way better than painting the stock case.

[narrow blade]

Unfortunately, Ryce's advice is horribly misinformed. NovelKeys' plate mount stabs are not better than Durock V2 or Everglide V3 once lubed and tuned, and I would strongly recommend both of those over most other options out there including NK. That said, you'll get almost the same experience out of tuning the stock stabs.

To clarify: Rossi's info is great. Ryce's info is not.
ZealPC and Drop Phantom stabs are not worth the price difference over JWK stabs such as Durock V2, Everglide V3, C³Equalz etc. They are negligibly better, but multiple times the cost after shipping.

Gateron plate mount stabs (which are included on the 60HE) are also considered high tier among enthusiasts, so you should be fine with simply tuning the stock stabs.

[radiant snow]

what board should i get for my wooting 60 he? i dont know anything about custom keyboards

[feral siren]

5 degrees on KBD fans. Generic cases come with this shape

Nvm people got to it

[feral siren]

This is true. I tried them all, I think only durock barely comes on par with Gateron

Arguably a bit better

[tepid urchin]

I like the cherry‘s / gmk‘s

[lethal idol]

That's what I thought but this user has the pbt kit installed #996573707235491950 message

[narrow blade]

Huh, maybe their newer keebs have a standard 6.25u spacebar instead of the 6u they used to have?

Either that or there's an extra 0.125u on each side of that spacebar which looks bad in person but isn't really visible in the pic

[lethal idol]

hmm, we'll see I guess.. my pbt kit is a few years old and the spacebar has a different texture than that so it's possible

Does that look like it'd work?

oh you mean width, what's "u"? cm?

I guess worst case I could keep the black stock spacebar

[narrow blade]

1u[nit] = the width of a normal square letter key; 19.05mm.

[lethal idol]

learn something new every day, thanks!

so 6x 19.05 etc.

[narrow blade]

Standard spacebar sizes are 1u×6.25u and 1u×7u, but Corsair and Razer have been using 1u×6u and 1u×6.5u for quite some time now much to the chagrin of anyone wanting to swap keycaps on their boards.

[lethal idol]

https://en.akkogear.com/product/asa-shine-through-keycap-set/

[narrow blade]

That set has a 6.25u spacebar; same as the 60HE

[lethal idol]

sweet

that's fine can sell my k65 with the upgraded keys included for a bit more then

[narrow blade]

I mean, you could also check the spec on the keycaps you got

It's possible they switched to a standard bottom row in the past few years and I've just forgotten

[lethal idol]

I looked on corsair the specs are kinda useless

[narrow blade]

oof

Doesn't even give keycap sizes? painful...

[lethal idol]

not even close lol

some arbitrary weight?

0.168 kg or lb for the set, who knows

mine are an older version actually, but same level of documentation https://www.corsair.com/ca/en/Categories/Products/Accessories-|-Parts/pbt-config/p/CH-9000234-WW#tab-overview

you know what, I think the new pbt 'pro' ones are standard and that is a new thing, but doesnt apply to me unfortunately

[narrow blade]

By this image, it's 6.5u which will absolutely not fit.

[lethal idol]

yeah, because it's their old layout

[narrow blade]

Yup.

[lethal idol]

now that they've launched a 60% they revamped to standard

bottom row on the pbt set looks different than mine with new version https://www.corsair.com/us/en/Categories/Products/Accessories-|-Parts/Gaming/Gaming-Keyboards/PBT-DOUBLE-SHOT-PRO-Keycap-Mod-Kit/p/CH-9911060-NA

[narrow blade]

Yep, that appears to be a standard 6.25u spacebar at a glance

[lethal idol]

thx for the help!

[narrow blade]

Np!

[nova pivot]

yup my bad meant drop lol one of those shops. only other ones ive tried are the everglides which were also nice with holee mod and grease

[narrow blade]

The Drop Phantoms are roughly on par with the latest JWK plate mount stabs, but way more expensive thanks to Drop's shipping costs. They are NOT worse than NK stabs.
Drop stock stabs suck ass though, if that's what you mean. The boards they come on suck too, so it's whatever

Everglide V1 and Durock V1 aren't great either FWIW, so one should always make sure they're getting Durock V2 or Everglide V3 respectively

[lethal idol]

are durock v2 decently better than the stock wooting?

[narrow blade]

slightly better. Stock on the 60HE are Gateron plate mounts, which are considered high tier among plate mounts by enthusiasts. They're more than good enough with a bit of tuning and maybe a holee or heatshrink mod.

[tepid urchin]

The stem design is different

People often heatshrink gmk‘s, holee durocks. Other stabs don’t even work right with holee modding (Zeal). From what I know the gateron‘s are a bit tighter inside the stem than the durocks.

[narrow blade]

IIRC the main difference is wire thickness

But I don't have any plate mount stabs on hand to compare rn unfortunately

[tepid urchin]

I have durocks and gmk‘s here

(plate mount)

I measured the durocks again, because the calipers showed -0.02 when closing

Take the housing measurements with a grain of salt, because it’s hard to make sure the calibers are perfectly aligned with the x axis of the inserts

In the end it’s not viable to wire swap

And if the fit is worse you would risk them popping out

I think a lot of the difference is down to material shrinkage

I bet jwks with different materials measure in differently from the same mold

[naive lion]

😈 tofukorn 60he soon

[tepid urchin]

I was so impressed by the thickness of the pbtfans

I think I will use them on my wooting

[last island]

What are better the Blade 60 Case or TOFU60 Case

[tepid urchin]

There is no big difference. Just looks and the blade is bit heavier. But it’s still tray mount and still from kbdfans.

[last island]

Thx

[brave field]

Wait, can we get these keycaps seperate?

[hazy sentinel]

Should be a tofu60 sale on kbdfans soon

[lethal idol]

well you can get the full keyset with their pbt keys, the new 'pro' version being standard layout so they'd work with the 60he, but I don't think you can get the ones with fn sub layer like on that keyboard

I think the pbt kit is still an upgrade on the stock keys that come with that board

[brave field]

I would only get it for the space-bar haha, that one looks dope

[neat sequoia]

They do be thicc. I have a set of black on white, waiting for wooting

[narrow blade]

Fair enough! I had them confused with another stab's wire I guess

I'm going to be using my KAT Alpha when I get my 60HE, but I'll be keeping an eye on the doubleshot KAT sets and maybe getting one of those instead

I do like me some PBTfans though

I doubt we'll be getting many doubleshot KAT sets that wouldn't otherwise require reverse dye sub, but if we do I'm so ready

A doubleshot KAT BoW set with an addon kit that supports workman would be the dream as far as I'm concerned

My plan is to manually rout out a TOFU60 case to give more space for a custom brass weight, take ~0.8mm off of the standoffs, then burger mount with softer 2mm ID 4mm OD o-rings and throw some silicone sheet around the mounting screws to further isolate it. Might try making a super thick clear acrylic plate too, with a frosted finish.

[nova pivot]

do they do anything at all to zeal stabs?

[narrow blade]

Holee usually.

[nova pivot]

thought he said u cant holee zeal stabs?

[narrow blade]

It's not perfect, but when people mod Zeal stabs they usually try to Holee.

That said, very few people actually use Zeal stabs since JWK stabs entered the market

Personally I heatshrink-modded my Zeal V2 PCB-mount stabs.

As far as I'm concerned, there is no reason to buy Zeal stabs in this day and age. Zeal's stuff in general is just way too expensive given there are absolutely excellent alternatives on the market for everything he sells excluding clickiez

But I'd much rather hot swap than buy convertible switches and have to disassemble them to change modes anyways. You could get 3 excellent sets of switches to swap between for a similar cost, and both have a better typing experience and save effort.

So TL;DR Henry (ZealPC) is a cool dude, but I can't recommend anybody buys his stuff these days. Just stay with stock Gateron stabs or go with JWK.

[nova pivot]

do wanna try on the plate mount. dont really care about price

[rigid spear]

@narrow blade I was at one point in time going to try and get a custom case made in China and shipped. I still plan to at some point but going with a stock tofu 60 at the start. If your interested, I might be interested in designing what you are talking about and ordering with you from a vendor in China or just having one made from scratch for myself as that's very close to what I was envisioning. Although some styling changes might be fun as well and that's what I was working on originally.

[narrow blade]

I appreciate the offer, but I really just want the minimal TOFU aesthetic with a bit more heft ^-^

[narrow blade]

I mean if you wanna try all of the high tier options, get Durock V2, Everglide V3 (IIRC slightly newer mold than Dv2), Drop Phantom, Zeal plate mount, and any misc plate mount stabs which pique your interest. I guarantee you'll find them all very similar in feel and sound after tuning, though.

[wary mango]

anyone know the diameter of the springs that the lekker switches use?

I've been looking into getting the heaviest ones I can find, but with the different diamater I don't think ballpoint pen springs will work

[rigid spear]

That was just to show a quick render of what I was messing around with, I'm more interested in pretty much the tofu look with maybe slightly more rounded edges but not much. At the very least I'd be curious exactly what changes you think would be optimal. I haven't done anything with modding keyboards before but I am a product designer so I like tinkering with things from time to time at home. This would be a fun way to try things out and learn more about what changes what with keyboards.

Adding a weight is easy and part of what I was originally planning. I don't know much about other mounting types other than how they work in theory. Funny enough lowering the mounts was on my mind but beyond that idk what exactly I would do to create the ideal board. Especially as the metal plate seems to be the limiting factor here

[narrow blade]

The only reason for lowering the mounts is compensating for adding an o-ring on top of the mount - if you burger mount without compensating for the height change, the port becomes badly misaligned

[rigid spear]

it's not only that but the height would visually be off as well. I get why that is done

is there anything else you would change?

would you mind if I pm'ed you?

[narrow blade]

Nah, shifting the board up 1mm in the case is not going to be noticed or seen as bad generally

sure go ahead

[tepid urchin]

Be really really careful. Routers are not designed to be used on metal. The case can easily kick back and hurt you.

[tepid urchin]

They won’t they will magnetize and mess with the Hall effect sensors.

[tepid urchin]

I think you should top / gasket mount your custom board. I would look at custom boards for inspiration.

You can start an interest check / group buy on geekhack, when you have a design

[rigid spear]

I’m mostly messing about. I don’t know that I want the liability of a group but in case things go wrong. I’m also not a huge fan of group buys. If I was going to design something for mass use it would be made to be made over and over again.

[tepid urchin]

Cost will be insane

If you only make a handful

But count me in

If it’s dope

[rigid spear]

Cost isn’t that bad if you have factories in China you know and trust. Unfortunately haven’t been over there since covid

[tepid urchin]

Same here last in 2019

But I have strong family ties there

I bet I can hook us up

[nova pivot]

A lot of the ones we work with ended up shutting down due to covid. Ik others are experiencing the same difficulty

[hazy sentinel]

#archived_the_lekker_switch message

[hazy sentinel]

#archived_the_lekker_switch message

6mm outer diameter seemed to work for this guy. Link to the aliexpress product attached as well

https://a.aliexpress.com/_mKqOmGM

I don’t have my 60HE yet so I can’t test out the springs in a lekker switch, but I purchased two sets of springs.

Both 0.3mm wire diameter, 6mm spring diameter, and one 15mm, one 20mm long

Plan to use them for my ceramic spacebar

[glacial harbor]

\

[mystic blaze]

so what changed 🙂

[glacial harbor]

ik it's not too different but I loosened the screws that were holding the pcb and plate to the case to get a deeper sound and less ping

[mystic blaze]

it felt much louder for me but I don't remember the previous ones

it sounds nice though 👍

[wary mango]

Yeah we already discussed this. I'm trying to see if anyone with lekker switches on hand could measure the diameter of the spring. Otherwise I could talk to someone at Wooting, I'm sure they know since they made this mistake with the springs 😅

[nova pivot]

i mean i have the springs in hand

i could measure that

[narrow blade]

I'll use a proper manual mill if I find a makersp with one

Otherwise I might opt to 3D model the case and just CNC into the stock TOFU

[glacial harbor]

@mystic blaze have you posted your finished board yet?

[light sleet]

has anyone tried low profile keycaps on their 60he?

[heady flicker]

Yes

[light sleet]

could you share any pics or links to the caps?

ooo intersting profile you got there

[heady flicker]

tnx

[light sleet]

Id like some like this

[mystic blaze]

eu-pi here 🙂

[pseudo frigate]

what keycaps are those

[sterile cave]

I have those kinda

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0B49FLN6K?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share

I think is that but not sure

I have em they cheap tho

[heady flicker]

google g20 keycaps. they're made by SP

[lost hamlet]

Has anyone had any trouble with the tofu 60case and o ring mods

[light sleet]

I think they are keychron whites

[light sleet]

got a pic of those on the 60he?

[sterile cave]

On the bottom

Right

[velvet spindle]

One keyboard is sus

[ocean dust]

does the different type of tape make it sound different

[sterile cave]

Found the right pics

[ocean dust]

like electrical, duct tape, painters type ?

[sterile cave]

kanna wholesome

[light sleet]

thanks man, looking nice

[sterile cave]

Beware the white ones I linked the LEDs kinda shine through the white part on this

As u can see in p and v keys

Might wanna go with the black ones

[light sleet]

thanks, i wonder if you went south facing it would be diffused a bit

[lost hamlet]

do u need to install the switches south facing for cherry mx key caps?

[sterile cave]

Cherry MX style works on these keycaps north facing I haven't tryed out south facing

[swift yarrow]

no, these are north facing LEDs.

[swift yarrow]

so yes, south facing is the way to go for cherry

[mystic blaze]

not even all cherry profile keycap sets, I have one modern dolch clone on north-facing LEDs, and no problem at all

some of the switches has longer stem, some of the keycap sets has a bit different mold, and it works, but lekker stems are definitely not long enough

[hazy sentinel]

The xvx store makes their own profile too, xvx profile. It’s sculpted cherry and super comfortable to type on

[mystic blaze]

they are really nice to type on, but even though it has so many keys, there is always one missing - right shift in my case

[tired oasis]

5 degrees hand paint in white, razer pbt white keys, cable mod running 100% brightness on tachyon with blue wrist rest from wooting.

[spiral hearth]

Probably not the question you were expecting but what are you using to cable tie the kb cable to the finalmouse cable

[mystic veldt]

Nice setup. What's the keypad with the knob in the back?

[tired oasis]

no problem its just a generic cable management they sell on Amazon.

[tired oasis]

Hi, its a Elgato stream deck siize xl.

[mystic veldt]

I mean the one in the top right

[tired oasis]

Sorry I see is the Blackmagic Speed editor

[mystic veldt]

ah nice, thanks

[mystic blaze]

is it possible to use some macro pads and knobs for the same use, or it's only possible with blackmagic's own hardware

color wheels would be really good to manage with touch pad though...

[tired oasis]

Only blackmagic software.

[mystic blaze]

I mean Davinci resolve accepts other macropads for the same functions

anyways not important 🙂

[sterile cave]

Very nice paint job on the case I left mine raw silver

I liked the surface finish as is

[hazy sentinel]

What stabs does the wooting 60 use?

[hybrid rapids]

plate mounted stabs from Gateron. Plate is a tight fit with them.

[hazy sentinel]

Thank u ❤️

[last island]

I have a question what are the best case for wooting 60he i will have all white but i dont know which one are working with the wooting can someone help me please

[glacial harbor]

cant go wrong with the tofu

[hazy sentinel]

https://youtu.be/igy_n3f7VeI this is a video with the wooting inside a tofu60

If you want to see how it looks

[tepid urchin]

A lot of the sound comes from the plate

And keycaps

Most of the tray mount cases don’t really sound very different from each other

So just pick what looks nice to you

[sterile cave]

Ye ☝️

Also peeps if you swap cases and your stabilizers sound rattley on the enter shift keys make sure your switch housings aren't moving in the plate as it can contribute to rattling so just tape mod the plate so switches stay put like the tape mod for stab housings for the plate

[last island]

Thx

And which usb c cable?

[brave field]

Very clean!

[swift yarrow]

My fucking A key is dead

I have to reach forward anytime I want to press the letter A bruh

[brave field]

Which keycaps were you using aain

[narrow loom]

Replug the keyboard without holding anything, it's probably calibration, not dead

[swift yarrow]

Already tried that

I'll try again I guess

...it worked

Well, thanks!

[sterile cave]

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0B49FLN6K?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share

This

[brave field]

hahah I might end up copying your complete build 😆

[sterile cave]

I now use cherry black on white kaps now

Peeps here seem to love the 5 degree case

[sterile cave]

The low profile keycaps kinda cheap they shine in 4 days when I stress tested them

[brave field]

Okay, so I prob have to look for different low profile caps then haha

[nova pivot]

What I'll b using

[frail hawk]

Got my 60he in the mail yesterday!! Time to get myself a good looking case and build this thing

[steel yacht]

They got a list of all the ones that work, theres some others that people have posted pics of that work that havent been added to the list yet like the mekanisk klippe and fjell. Best is entirely upto preference, easiest fit will probs be the tofu, best sound profile you’ll probs get with something like the fjell but thats a case more expensive than the entire keyboard and hard to find

[frail hawk]

What case is that? It looks 🔥

[rigid spear]

https://shop.wuquestudio.com/products/maze-64

[sterile cave]

https://mechboards.co.uk/products/kbdfans-5-degree-60-case?variant=40336263348429
Dis

[high plinth]

Does the wooting have platefoam out of the factory?

[feral siren]

If you mean Eva foam yes. Pe foam no.

[light sleet]

which keycaps are those?

[velvet saffron]

Time to mod it

Received it today

Truly amazing

[wary mango]

I didn't get a notification 😭 thank you so much for giving me the spring diameter info!!! I appreciate it a lot

fully thinking of getting the 50mm ones

[wary mango]

make sure to show it once it's done, board looks sick! can't wait for mine

[velvet saffron]

Yess for sure

[mystic blaze]

@hybrid rapids drum60 case works without any problems, it took 1 minute to do so 😄 it's also known as skyloong aluminum case too

But stock case looks much better if you ask me 😄

[hybrid rapids]

Thanks, will add it to the list tomorrow

[woeful pawn]

Hows the 60he gonna fit in that?

https://kanatakeys.co/products/isabell-60?variant=42329581715620

[pallid lynx]

technically its likely, but since there're no standoffs, it'll rattle and fall out again :D

(mounting mechanism are very different, so no)

[tepid urchin]

Custom plate and kbdfans standoffs should get you there

It’s nice, a bit like the hive60

[woeful pawn]

Kbdfan standoff for like fixing the plate and pcb together?

Yeah not worth it actualy, forgot the 60he doesnt have the layout for wkl

I still dont know which case to but it in

[mystic blaze]

So what's the best way to paint the steel plate?

the white in black case is annoying me 😄

[feral siren]

Wouldn’t good to know

I haven’t found a good way to do this

[mystic blaze]

wrapping the top part in electric tape?

[feral siren]

That’d be an awful thing to try

The tolerances in these plates are super tight for the switches

Would never fit

I m too lazy to sand

I need a good painting method

Also sanding could affect tolerances too maybe? I dunno

If there’s paint that works on glossy surfaces that’s be great

[mystic blaze]

I will glue pe foam on top, and color it black, and cut out the switch squares

The sound is a bit annoying too...

[feral siren]

Would look janky no? Sounds like it’d be really scuffed

And it would sound janky too

[mystic blaze]

sound is not janky, I had tried one on another steel plate, killed the harshness a bit

not much but you know just from the top

but never tried coloring

have no idea how to color it either

[feral siren]

Would probably be some kind of spray but dunno what beyond that

[mystic blaze]

I mean I can understand steel plate is needed, but why white...

[feral siren]

It catches RGB glow the best

[mystic blaze]

I would have been OK if it didn't have any leds...

[feral siren]

Or rather doesn’t catch

Looking at the market as a whole, more people would likely want RGB than not

[mystic blaze]

silver is nice reflector too, infact more natural

would have been better than white

[feral siren]

Costlier than taking a coat of white paint

Small company

Gotta make money

From their perspective I totally get the decision for white

And glossy white is still a league above silver

They’re aiming to unseat Razer and Logitech if they’re aiming to grow, not Mode Keyboards

[mystic blaze]

I hear you, but it's not just for modding... The stock case already - white is not fitting

[feral siren]

RGB

It’s designed to have lights on at all times

The keycaps are essentially lights on only

Backlit look like crap/barely-legible with lights off

Active RGB is a different story but by design it’s an RGB board

You and I are comfortably the minority

[mystic blaze]

You won't let me complain, ha?

[feral siren]

I mean I mall for it’s ugly as sun

Sin*

Sorry I m slow and tired and taking your “you don’t get why they would make this choices” literally

Ma bad homes

[mystic blaze]

no man my bad, I don't have anyone to talk to about keyboards, literally

that's where I speak whatever comes to my mind

To be honest, if you consider logitech - razer etc., such a small team, making this kind of a product gets nothing but respect from me

the moment I held it, I felt that

And it's always harder to earn money, when you are smaller

from design to, manufacturing and etc. I wouldn't have done better

BUT

the plate being white is annoying me 😄

[tepid urchin]

Yeah I upped the size a touch for my anodizing. 14mm dead on with negative tolerance is just asking for trouble.

You could mask the switch holes

[velvet saffron]

Update switches are lubed and stabs as well time to mount in into a tofu case with burger mount and foam and tempest mod

I didnt want to film the switches as I think it could cause problem with the switch

[velvet saffron]

How many layers have you done for the tape mod ?

[hot maple]

Maybe, I’ve heard other people film them.

[velvet saffron]

I see

Well we'll see

[glacial harbor]

people who have filmed have said its not worth it because the switch housings fit pretty tight together already

[velvet saffron]

Lubed all switches, tap modded x2, case foam and burger mounted

+tofu 60 case

🤩

[velvet saffron]

Still hesitating between xda profile or cherry I have both but the sound is heaven and the keybord works perfectly

[proper robin]

Looks really good!

[velvet saffron]

thanks

[pallid lynx]

got mine today and works fine in a Mekanisk Klippe T 👍

[velvet saffron]

Wooting 60 he switched are lubed with krytox g205, spring are lubed with gpl 105 ,TOFU 60% Aluminium case, 2x layer tape mod, foam mod, burger mounted.

[sterile cave]

Noice 👌

I like XDA but I can't find good shine through ones for RGB

[velvet saffron]

it's my first time trying xda i like it so far but it's a bit hard adjusting in game

ngl

If i can adapt i'll stick to it otherwise I'll swtich back to cherry

[velvet saffron]

Thanks

[sterile cave]

Ye some times the flat shape and stuff throws you off since it's not skulpted

Typing is gonna be awkward a bit

[velvet saffron]

I loove typing

Best feeling

I might get used to it 😅

[sterile cave]

Leeker switches just as good as tangerines

[velvet saffron]

Why so?

[sterile cave]

Both smoove

Leeker great stock

But I'ma freek so I lubed both leeker and tangerines

[sterile cave]

Put my other cap set on the woot
What y'all think ?

[spiral hearth]

nice mouse 😉

[ocean dust]

isnt that like the 46g mouse

[sterile cave]

The smoll Is 45-46g yea

Medium is 50g

[feral siren]

Hm my starlight comes in at 48g

[naive lion]

🥱 mine is super lightweight

[feral siren]

oh no

[tepid urchin]

I really want to get a dav3 pro

But the dongle is out of stock all the time

My hand is just too wide for the gpx it hurts me xD. Glad I didn’t waste my time chasing a starlight.

[spiral hearth]

Do you have medium or small? The small is too small for me. The medium is as small as I could go for a mouse.

[supple shard]

Hey guys i need some help. i havent got my board yet, Does anyone know the thickness of the plate and the standoffs ? Thankyou 🙏🏻

[hybrid rapids]

How do you feel about the burger mount

[sterile cave]

I haz both medium and smal

[velvet saffron]

really good I used your foam and I also used some thin foam to fill out the L shape inside the Tofu case. Burger mount took me some time though. getting everything lined up was a pain but I'm really happy with it

It is my first build ever

[brave field]

measure your hands

depending on your handsize you can see which on eyou need

[velvet saffron]

@hybrid rapids

[spiral hearth]

I already have the medium Tenz edition. I’m just saying that the medium is as small as I could go for any mouse. Anything smaller would feel too small in my hand

[brave field]

The medium only has the downside that you cant move it around in your hand

that is why people go for smalls

this movement

[spiral hearth]

Maybe we have different sized hands then. That’s what I can do with the medium.

[brave field]

Ah yes, my hands arent that big xD

[spiral hearth]

What kind of thin foam did you add? The zip fit from the Bad Seed video or something else?

[velvet saffron]

Nop I'll take a pic and try to find the reference for you

Of what I used exactly

[velvet saffron]

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0074GOFRW/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Used the little thing covering the tofu 60 case for a thin layer and did an L shape in the eva foam

Then placed the wooting foam over

[tepid urchin]

I'm down with covid, but I will measure mine, when I gets here.

[supple shard]

Thankyou soo muchhhh ure the best 🙏🏻

[humble moss]

Damn

[feral siren]

I thin I've finally settled on a bulid

I've done a LOTTT of experimenting

PE foams just don't sound very good with this coated steel plate

Tempest with Electrical Tape 1 layer before the tape will get the 'marblier-ish' sound signature

Plate Mounted Stabs sound much better in Cherry Profile

Although these 1.45mm cherry profile blanks I got had to have its Row 3 shaved a bit to remove the inteference even with South Facing switches

Didn't realize but the lekker switches have slightly funky cases

That is all good luck

I think the reason why PE foam mod just doesn't work at all and sounds flat is probably to do with lack of any stabs and the lack of a center stem.

[rigid spear]

So you’re doing one layer of tape on the pcb and then one layer of electrical tape after that?

Or are you doing it in the reverse order

[feral siren]

Reverse

Electrical Tape under PCB

Then Painter's Tape under the electrical tape

I hate 'muffled' sound signatures. but right now best I can get out of the board is crunchy

I might wind up stuffing the board a bit as a reluctant compromise

[tepid urchin]

Sorry, what is a funky case?

[mystic blaze]

Electric tape for the sound or for safety?

[velvet saffron]

Sound

[feral siren]

The top housing. Even in South Facing format, the tolerance seems to be a tad off, or different fgrom the usual, at least based on these Cherry profile keycaps I tried on

[feral siren]

Sound

GMK cherry profile seems to work without interference

[mystic blaze]

how is it different than painter's tape?

[feral siren]

It has a sharper sound amplification

If you have imperfect stabs situation it will enhance that out the wazoo too

'

[mystic blaze]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gfN9p2OQcrE that's it from me... The PE foam didn't work as well as I hoped... There are places it didn't stick and makes noise... I am bored now though, I will use it like this and if I get annoyed, I will try to find another solution 🙂

[velvet saffron]

Have you tried to use the one form the wooting original case?

Coz I used this and used 4 different kind of foam total

I listed them up there

I wish my recording would sound like it does in real life

[mystic blaze]

sorry I couldn't follow... you mean, if I tried the stock foam on the aluminum case? if so , yes, it still felt hollow for me, so I used a thin dense foam and medical cloth on top

[velvet saffron]

The stock wooting foam

and foam to cover the L shape

tried my best to catch it with my phone

Which case did you use six?

[mystic blaze]

its called drum60 but bought from amazon, and the name is not shown there https://www.amazon.de/-/en/gp/product/B09HQV48FV/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o05_s00?ie=UTF8&th=1

[mystic blaze]

don't know why it opened with apple books 😄

[velvet saffron]

Oh sorry for that

[mystic blaze]

sounds nice, but it should be in reference to something, that's why maybe should have recorded stock sound the same way too

so you could here the difference whenever you did something

[velvet saffron]

Here is the build

Oh it's very different

Night and day

I received it and the next day I modded it 😅

[mystic blaze]

looks great!

[bold skiff]

I think the ABS case itself is absorbing sound too

[sterile cave]

just stuff and suffocate all the foamz in an aluminum case with all sorts of foam and tape mod at least for me it made my hamburgermounted wooting sound thocky with my 5 degree case

im happy with how my build turned out

[mystic blaze]

not absorbing but ABS case sounds deeper, it just sounds more hollow too for me though...
My problem is the harshness of steel plate, I couldn't fix it with the PE foam

[mystic blaze]

I added PE foam in the case too, but this one is recorded with a Dynamic mic, the other ones are recorded with a pencil condenser so there is already difference from mics 🙂

[undone dragon]

how would I go about reducing the typing angle of the 60he? what cases should I look at? i want to get it around 5 degrees

[tepid urchin]

You don’t

The case has 5.5 or 6

You won’t be able to find a lower case

Idk why you would want to

Maybe you can remove the bumpers

Or sand the bottom of the caseback

But I think there is not much beyond that

And cherry keycaps

[undone dragon]

damn really? i'm looking for a somewhat more-flat typing angle, so i can use the keeb w/o a wrist rest

i've already got cherry caps

[tepid urchin]

Idk wrist rests are not ergonomic

The front height and typing angle on the stock 60he are already very low

When you hand is flat your wrists are not

Your wrists should be flat to avoid carpal tunnel

It’s also good of you don’t squeeze you lower arm on the table edge. That can increase the friction of the tenants and up the likelihood of getting carpal tunnel.

[undone dragon]

i agree

[undone dragon]

so its better if i rest my entire arm on my desk as opposed to my wrist on the edge of the table?

[tepid urchin]

Yes

Or a higher seat position can help

[glacial harbor]

i think im finished modding mine

[alpine cloak]

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07HD14Q1M?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details this is straight up flat

there's also a bamboo one I think

https://www.amazon.com/Bamboo-Wood-case-Mechanical-Keyboard/dp/B07GCGX8Q1/ref=sr_1_1?crid=2SLXRLIL6VMCL&keywords=gh60+bamboo+case&qid=1663695967&s=electronics&sprefix=gh60+bamboo+cas%2Celectronics%2C64&sr=1-1&ufe=app_do%3Aamzn1.fos.18ed3cb5-28d5-4975-8bc7-93deae8f9840

[tepid urchin]

I see

Never seen that anywhere

[alpine cloak]

it will end up with floating switches apparently so I guess people dislike it, but I'm going with it because I prefer flat keyboards

[mystic blaze]

that's how

[brave field]

That looks amazing, is that a wooting

[mystic blaze]

no, first pic on the amazon review of above link

but can be a wooting just the switch colors would be different

[brave field]

Very clean

for some odd reason the pudding caps suit it well

[mystic blaze]

ironically it would show the dirt collected on the keyboard more, or I feel that way 😄

[brave field]

hahah 😆 White keycaps would never be a good idea for me

[mystic blaze]

other than blade60, I've never seen a case which made me say "wow, that looks original" and I don't like the blade60 design so much

I think wooting 60he stock case is the most original one 😄

[brave field]

5% looks quite good though 👀

[mystic blaze]

that's true, I like it better than tofu

[brave field]

Best of both world, symmetric and different

[mystic blaze]

most of the designs are different on the bottom which feels pointless to me

[brave field]

The blade is quite bulky as well, depending on the rest of your desk it might be a bit much. But that is very personal ofc

compared to this unit everything is going to look better though

[mystic blaze]

that's what's called battlestation

😄

[brave field]

I didnt even knew smaller keyboards existed

Was looking to get a new mouse, saw FM and the whole modding community, and that is how I ended up here

Now I have a wooting & tons of mods coming my way, and some FM lol

[mystic blaze]

🙂 60he is still small for me though