60he community modding

[swift yarrow]

Curious, did you just go for 4 or keep adding? I did one and really liked the difference.

Very likely yes, plus its so quick that you can undo it if you don't vibe with it

[neon bay]

Hey, so my Freebird just arrived, it's gorgeous 😍✨

There were also some stabs in the package, anyone got an idea which these are?

[rotund ravine]

The Freebird looks awesome

Those stabs look decent. Preclipped. But PCB mount. Save them for another build.

[neon bay]

Are the 60HE stabs Plate mounted?

[rotund ravine]

Ya

[neon bay]

Mhhh big sad. I'll just hope their fine I guess

Welp, guess I'm doing another build sometime... 😂

[glacial harbor]

I did basically all of them in a row

[glacial harbor]

SHOW US YOUR 60HE IN IT

[rotund ravine]

If you’re looking to upgrade the stabs and can find a seller, I’ve been enjoying the Gateron Phantoms. UHMWPE stem in a stab turns out to be really smooth and soft. Matches the switches and plate better also.

[neon bay]

Thanks, I'll keep it in mind if I'm not satisfied

[willow gate]

durock clip ins

[neon bay]

I WOULD REALLY LOVE TO ᵇᵘᵗ ᶦᵗˢ ˢᵗᵘᶜᵏ ᶦⁿ ᶜᵘˢᵗᵒᵐˢ

[willow gate]

they're very good

but like a person mentioned earlier

pcb mount

[glacial harbor]

oh.. I thought you had your board :(

[neon bay]

🥲 I wish so

[neon bay]

They have screws?!?

[swift yarrow]

They're the best stock stabs I've ever heard

[neon bay]

Yeah I dindn't worry too much

[swift yarrow]

My right space bar is actually perfect, although the left needs work.

• this is very annoying as I predominantly space with my left

[neon bay]

I think they could be Durock V1's

[willow gate]

was meant to say screw ins

but the one you want is just plate mount, which don't need screws

[neon bay]

I feel like the v2's are darker, eather in the case or the rod or smthn

But I think you're right

In the full kit you can buy with the Freebird60 there is Durock V2 Screw-in Stabilizers included.

Sick that I got them too

[lusty pond]

[fossil venture]

Thinking of filming when I lube, I've seen a few people film, both tx and thicc... Any issues with filming or anyone recommend one over the other?

[rotund ravine]

Don’t have experience with the thicc. But TX worked well for me. Fit fairly well, the bottom housing rails on the switch are wider than most, so there’s ever so little stretch.

I usually don’t care about filming, but the tolerance on the Lekker is actually noticeable looser than some of Gateron’s newer switches. I think it’s worth a go.

[fossil venture]

Thanks, ordered some tx films 😎

[stark jay]

Anyone report any issues with using a Brass TOFU60 plate?

I know i saw someone using one in here

[glacial harbor]

how does it sound filmed?

[rotund ravine]

I don’t know if it’s different much from unfilmed to be honest.

Lube made the biggest difference

[velvet saffron]

looks very nice

does filming scuffs the hall effect?

[glacial harbor]

holee modded my spacebar stabilizers

[neon bay]

The ONE thing I didn't want to do 😂 Is it worth it?

[neon bay]

Not as far as I know. But I haven't done it, maybe ask @rotund ravine or someone

[velvet saffron]

Thanks we'll see

[glacial harbor]

to me it is

putting dielectric grease on the wires felt rlly mushy to me before

[scenic needle]

Ordered a Wooden case for the 60HE to see how that goes. But knowing AliExpress it takes forever to arrive here I assume.

[mystic blaze]

kbdfans one?

[scenic needle]

https://nl.aliexpress.com/item/32884808538.html this one. The zebra version. Looks on the photo's to be a nice color. Though other store fronts with zebra wood look awful. So I am hoping for it to be good.

Though the KBDfans zebra wood isn't really my taste either. I'm afraid this page just made the pictures just 'too pretty'

[willow gate]

Would be interesting to see what BadSeedtech does

[scenic needle]

Yeah really curious too!

[mystic blaze]

I like the more roundy edges of kbdfans better but agree on zebra. I will probably go with walnut though, so no problem for me 😄

[scenic needle]

The rounded edges are on the 65% version only right?

Atleast they seem more next level rounded 😛

[mystic blaze]

ahah really? I was checking 65% version always didn't check the 60% version so will do now

that's actually correct

wow

happy I didn't order it for 60he 😄

yeah, it's the same in their webpage too

65% version is more rounded

[scenic needle]

Yeah kinda like that more too

[modern copper]

Some nordic style keycaps would look nice with wooden case like this https://preview.redd.it/oeyb0snsreh81.jpg?auto=webp&s=17526959194af23c090c040d522a26a86a3449b8

https://drop.com/buy/drop-the-lord-of-the-rings-mt3-elvish-keycap-set?defaultSelectionIds=964667

[zenith lava]

did the same build a few weeks back. I learned btw you can get away with using just 2 of the 4 case mounting points and 4 of the 8 pcb standoffs, as well as the foam from the other case, makes a big difference, I don't really like the steel ping. The full o-ring gasket mount (bakaneko style) doesn't work because you you need PCB standoffs screws there anyway which defeats the purpose and there's so little keeping the pcb and plate together that it tears itself apart sometimes

[zenith lava]

#984813170210246727 message

[velvet spindle]

Makes me laugh ngl

[scenic needle]

Oh damn, for sure! Think the colors would go awesome with it. Is there also a set available with normal characters?

[swift yarrow]

Recs for wooden cases? Tofu makes one but it's sold out.

[neon bay]

Bruh I don't understand half of what you're saying. But I guess I'll find out once I try mounting my 60HE on there.

[modern copper]

Don’t think it’s for sale anywhere. I found it on Reddit probably was a group buy or something

[lusty pond]

He said there’s a good amount of adaptability

[neon bay]

sounds good. Still, not much I can work with xD

[lusty pond]

[swift yarrow]

I have no idea why everyone is going for aluminum cases when you can get a beautiful walnut one for half the price

[glacial harbor]

and wooden cases have a deeper sound signature

but a lot of ppl just dont like the way wood looks or the fact that wood doesn't match with a lot of "gamer setups" which this keyboard is marketed towards

[mystic blaze]

I was curious of that too, and thought maybe there is a disadvantage but seems like it's only preference...

for me wood is the better choice though

[lusty pond]

I prefer to not have a nut on my case

Or in*👀

[mystic blaze]

what do you think of the zebra option then?

what do you imagine to be precise 😄

[lusty pond]

[swift yarrow]

Amen, wood is elite

[swift yarrow]

But it's made from real walls!

[mental shell]

cool info

[lusty pond]

Ahahaha

[glacial harbor]

can anyone with lubed switches and an aluminum case do a sound test? I wanna hear how different it sounds

[dusk bridge]

Anyone know a company i can send my board to and they will lube the switches for me?? Lol

[glacial harbor]

its honestly not too hard to do it yourself and it's also quite rewarding

[dusk bridge]

Alr i guess ill do it myself any kit i should buy?

[glacial harbor]

https://www.amazon.com/Switches-Acrylic-Mechanical-Keyboard-Debugging/dp/B08YR9D4FW/?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_w=K7zCC&content-id=amzn1.sym.bbb6bbd8-d236-47cb-b42f-734cb0cacc1f&pf_rd_p=bbb6bbd8-d236-47cb-b42f-734cb0cacc1f&pf_rd_r=W62QMK6CQ8834A9E43P9&pd_rd_wg=FAPP4&pd_rd_r=115cd7b2-4eff-4568-a2cb-b0546fa3f6e9&ref_=pd_gw_ci_mcx_mi&th=1

this seems pretty good for the price

or you can get wooting's lube kit

[surreal mason]

does cherry keycaps work fine with the wooting. ?

also have anyone tried using a aluminum case on the wooting if some did would like to get some recommendations

[lusty pond]

Should be fine, If the keycaps you are using are not cooperating when installing it’s recommended to turn the switches 180 degrees

[lusty pond]

Tofu 60, Blade 60, Freebird 60, any universal mount 60 case with the port hole on the left side will be fine

[surreal mason]

and those u mentioned will be fine ye

so its prefered to get a dye sub pbt keycaps?

or just normal oem pbt keycaps

[lusty pond]

The three cases mentioned above are confirmed to work, yes, you can also use the kbdfans 5 degree simple aluminum case too

[surreal mason]

alright thank you

[lusty pond]

That would be based off preference of a individual or based off whatever you’re seeing/hearing

I prefer other keycaps in “my opinion”

[hot hazel]

anyone tried using DIY silicone dampener? how does the keyboard sound with that?

[scenic needle]

Just decided to order the Tofu wooden from keygem https://keygem.store/collections/cases-60/products/60-tofu-case-walnut-o-ring-mount

Was also a fair bit cheaper then the KBD, and in stock.

[restive thorn]

I've been thinking about making a silicone damper but haven't gotten around to it yet

[mystic blaze]

it is cheaper than aliexpress with shipping

[restive thorn]

u have a link ?

[mystic blaze]

it would have been great if they had the wrist rest too

[mystic blaze]

aliexpress you mean?

I replied the link

[restive thorn]

yes

[mystic blaze]

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005002191964063.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.0.0.428b67ae6zeg1b&algo_pvid=3a1f8923-62d9-411e-9331-c5684101b8be&algo_exp_id=3a1f8923-62d9-411e-9331-c5684101b8be-0&pdp_ext_f={"sku_id"%3A"12000019004372935"}&pdp_npi=2%40dis!EUR!!59.97!!!!!%400b0a187b16587487850221363e73dc!12000019004372935!sea

[restive thorn]

i mean a silicondamper 😄

[scenic needle]

Wasn't too sure if I'd want the wrist rest. Wood does catch oils pretty badly.

[mystic blaze]

I have been using wooden wrist rest for another keyboard for 2 years, never had a problem

and it's mostly for looks, it fits well with my theme

[mystic blaze]

oh, I didn't reply to that though, was talking about the case

[scenic needle]

Ahh. Ahwell. Well see haha.

[scenic needle]

Adding a wooden wrist rest does look good yeah. Maybe for later 😄

[mystic blaze]

it feels like you can do it yourself so easily... and use stain of your choice etc. but never tried...

and when sold separately the wooden wrist rests are a bit expensive, 30 eur etc.

I have some wood blocks from old furniture, if I had time, I would have definitely tried to do it...

[scenic needle]

Never tried it either. Only come as far as just adding varnish to my desk, but that's it. I will ask the Wooting gang that we need wooden wrist rest so I can sneak one in from the office 😛

[restive thorn]

what do you think how much liquid silicone do you need? 200 g ?

[mystic blaze]

I mean, that's why there is an office 😄

[mystic blaze]

just my 2cents, most of furniture comes wrapped to really good dampeners

[scenic needle]

Not sure. Think 200g would be sufficient. Could always go for bigger bottles. https://www.amazon.nl/PRO-Siliconen-dupliceersiliconen-Afvormmassa-siliconenrubber/dp/B07H5RDQD7 this one is just 25 bucks for 500g which isn't too bad I guess?

[mystic blaze]

even if silicone is better it wouldn't be too much of a difference

I have 4 m2 of great dense and soft dampener from a furniture

keeping it for keyboards and my room 😄

and recycling is always a win

or using the foam in the keyboard cases etc.

you can do tape mod below the case too and put foam on it, it would be a wider range of dampening

different materials effect different frequencies

so various materials together might act even better

[normal marsh]

Wish I could get a river red gum keyboard case. It's a real nice wood, but I suppose it might be too hard to work into a case.

[swift yarrow]

Oh heck, didn't know these were in stock anywhere!! Thanks.

Difference between durock Switch films and foams??? Help

I want creamy sounds pls what get

https://keygem.store/products/durock-switch-films?variant=41604272029862

[neon bay]

Specifications Films:

Pack of 120
0.15mm Soft Double Layer switch film
Feature: HTV (Matte surface) facing lower/bottom housing PC (Transparent surface) facing upper/Top housing
Color: Clear

Specifications Foam:

Pack of 120
0.3mm
Material: Foam
Color: Black

[neon bay]

Foam is thicker, but softer

Yoooooo Wooting Lube kit just arrived

[swift yarrow]

Well yeah I can read, but I wanted to know the end result differences. Guessing foam is less clack and probably more towards the whole "marble-y thock" thing

?

[neon bay]

Mhh yeah then I can't really help you

[swift yarrow]

Hey, have you found this anywhere else? Don't really wanna pay 20 euro shipping

[indigo mantle]

aliexpress has one

[indigo mantle]

^

[swift yarrow]

Different case, that one is a tray mount. Trying to find the O ring version.

[swift yarrow]

Heck, I've got some aged walnut stock. I'm gonna make one, screw the system (unless somebody found one with reasonable shipping)

[mystic blaze]

I think it would feel much better if you could make it yourself, I just don't have confidence and probably would be annoyed as hell. But If I could make it, I think I would never, ever use another case 😄

[swift yarrow]

I'm just worried about getting the dz60 template right 👀

[glacial harbor]

does anyone know if the PE foam mod would work?

[iron mango]

the silicone dampener for tofu works

it reduces spring ping by quite a bit where i cannot hear spring ping anymore ( while the switches are unlubed)

the only downside is you have to cut 6 holes

[glacial harbor]

can you give us a sound test?

[iron mango]

i dont have a stock sound test but the foam wooting provides is quite dense

it reduces by 2 or 3 db

[glacial harbor]

no like a sound test with silicone

[iron mango]

killmat * 4 layers of foam, silicone dampener, fjell case, mt3 black on white, gasket mounted with orings

[indigo mantle]

idk what keycaps to get, i just got my tofu60 case in air force blue

i was thinking of this

this would also be a nice set idk

[glacial harbor]

i like the second one a lot

would look SUPER clean with the case

is that a gmk set?

[indigo mantle]

no kbdfans

https://kbdfans.com/products/pbtfans-doubleshot-spark?variant=40112198713483

[glacial harbor]

https://www.amazon.com/Keycaps-Hammerhead-Switches-Mechanical-Keyboard/dp/B09P1BGDS6/ref=sr_1_3?crid=1VQVY8CDLA5SP&keywords=hammerhead+keycaps&qid=1658789510&sprefix=hammerhead+keycaps%2Caps%2C140&sr=8-3

this keycap set is also pretty nice

a lot less expensive as well

[indigo mantle]

i ended up ordering the kbdfans spark set, but thank you for the suggestion

[swift yarrow]

I hear your air conditioner more than anything lmao

[indigo mantle]

should i relube the stabilizers

they sound pretty good stock

[glacial harbor]

up to you

[glacial harbor]

i relubed mine and it sounds pretty similar

except i holee modded my spacebar and it sounds super nice now

[idle holly]

Durock v2 stabs work in this board

?

[glacial harbor]

no

they need to be plate mounted stabs

[modern copper]

dope but expensive, wish there was a place to order your own customized keycaps for reasonable price group buys the only option

[wary saddle]

will my durock v1 plate mounted stabs work with the stock plates?

sorry if this question seem stupid

[mystic blaze]

afaik the plate mount stabs are standard so they should work.

[glacial harbor]

took out the plate foam and tape modded

compared to with case foam and tape modded, which do you guys like better?

[mystic blaze]

second

[glacial harbor]

now i have to take it apart again

[mystic blaze]

ahah, but if you liked the first better?

it's not so much different tbh, more dampened the better for my taste

[glacial harbor]

now that i hear it side by side, i like 2nd better

[mystic blaze]

yeah

🙂

if you have more dense soft material than the foam

it would even be better

[glacial harbor]

i wanna try pe foam mod

[mystic blaze]

or if there is still space you can put the pe foam above the case foam

does the keyboard come with pe foam though?

I don't know that yet 🙂

[mystic blaze]

that might be a problem between the plate, as it might change the plate behaviour, I am not sure

but putting it between the tape mod and foam might be good

more dampening the better as it would effect different freq 🙂

I just don't know if there is enough space in the case

[glacial harbor]

with the pe foam mod, the pe foam replaces the other foam

otherwise it wouldn't be as effective

[scenic needle]

Prefer the 2nd one too 🙂

[mystic blaze]

I tried multiple materials together and alone, always liked two different materials better

that's why I suggested

but it might be different for you

[glacial harbor]

do you have to use the really thin pe foam for the pe foam mod?

[mystic blaze]

how do you mean?

if you want you can stack up some together

[glacial harbor]

i just tried doing the pe foam mod with a piece of pe foam but it completely silences the bottom out of the switch and you can only hear the return sound

i think it was too thick

[mystic blaze]

do you use it between the plate and the pcb?

but I never noticed a thinner one, they all seem to be the same

[glacial harbor]

yeah i put it between the plate and pcb

[indigo mantle]

i tape modded my pcb and my spacebar sounds so weird now

like it sounds like the switch is rubbing against the tape

idk if that is how it is supposed to sound

[serene current]

Any 60% case suggestions to put the 60HE in? If possible under 200 bucks

[glacial harbor]

almost all cases are under 200 unless you get like the fjell or something

tofu60 is a clean case

kdbfans 5 degree case

blade60

[glacial harbor]

can you send a recording of your spacebar sound?

[indigo mantle]

sure

it sounds a little better now

before it sounded weird

[neon bay]

also Freebird60

[glacial harbor]

its just rattle

you can lube the stabilizers to get rid of most or all of that

and lube the spacebar switch

[indigo mantle]

I am

Waiting for the lube kit to come

[glacial harbor]

nice:)

[glacial harbor]

@indigo mantle how many layers of tape did you put on?

[hazy sentinel]

i kinda wanna get tx stabs, anyone know the pcb thickness?

wait are those even plate mount?

[tepid urchin]

No. Won‘t work. Pretty much non of the good stabs will, no staebies, no tx, no owlstabs, nothing like it.

[jovial sleet]

if TX does plate mount, then it'll fit

[tepid urchin]

They don’t

Tx is only clip in as far as I remember

But clip into the pcb

Not into the plate

https://youtu.be/B1TodVGvF2g

Using tape to make them fit tight and wiggeling them is the best you can do

And lube obv

[jovial sleet]

eh

there are some nice premium plate mount stabs as well

[tepid urchin]

Like?

Durock v1?

[jovial sleet]

ZealPC made a set
I've heard good things about em

[tepid urchin]

Zeal?

[jovial sleet]

yes

[tepid urchin]

Those are the only ones

The tolerances on the wire are better with zeals

But they are still a fairly old design

Can’t keep up with staebies or tx stabs

[glacial harbor]

would the asceny stabs work?

[tepid urchin]

They are plate mount

Ppl are saying durocks are better

And they are def. Not as tight around the wire as the zeals

[tepid urchin]

So yes

[glacial harbor]

i've heard the asceny ones are nice bc they fit tighter into the plate

[hazy sentinel]

Ah yeah I should have checked the mount first lol

Thanks for clarifying

[velvet spindle]

not the biggest fan of not knowing where my alu case is lol

[glacial harbor]

wym?

@velvet spindle

[mystic blaze]

iirc it was sent back as the address was not properly written on the slips, but kbdfans was gonna send a new one

[hybrid rapids]

60HE has a lot of stabilizer grease, might be worth poking a stick to push in the excessive lube into the stab

[flint grove]

@everyone I'm making a video on lubing switches. I want to add a section at the end of community modded / lubed 60HE keyboards. If you have a sweet sounding 60HE. I would love to receive a video and feature it in the video. Ofc. there will be credits in the video and desc.

[tepid urchin]

I don't have all the parts yet. And it will take some time (I need to get a custom plate for the gasket mount made) and wait for a shipment from china.

But then mine should sound dope

[tepid urchin]

Could you try make sure, if you make a v3 of the pcb that it gets screw-in stab holes?

[jovial sleet]

plate would also need to be modified to accommodate

[tepid urchin]

Why is that?

I thought it used the cherry spec cutouts, let me check again

[tepid urchin]

from what I'm seeing the should clear. Some custom boards have a lot more clearance to avoid rubbing. But then they could not ship with plate mounted stabs anymore.

[jovial sleet]

yep
it would be a huge tooling investment for...not all that much gain tbh

[tepid urchin]

Hmm?

I just asked for pcb holes

xD

I don't mind swapping the plate

[mystic blaze]

I think even being able to case swap so easily is awesome. I just ordered kbdfans 65% wooden case for an Akko 65% keyboard, and now I notice the usb c port is slightly off and even the board size might not fit in. It's my mistake that i didn't make sure but there are not many boards it seems that you can easily swap

[swift yarrow]

I still would love if wooting did a limited run of premium cases

Aluminum machining, brass block with a big Ole W on the bottom

Maybe make it an oring mount

[indigo mantle]

has the lubing kit been shipped to the us yet?

i saw the rest of the world shipment has been sent but i was wondering if that included the lubing kit

[tepid urchin]

The big o-ring mounts don't work with the pcb and tray mounts with o-rings are just are still inconsistant like tray mounts are.

If they are already making a high-end case, I would hope for better mounting too.

[swift yarrow]

Dang, why not? Pcb is too narrow?

[glacial harbor]

probably because the usb-c port is attached to the pcb instead of having it connected to a separate daughterboard

[tepid urchin]

You can watch youtube videos of people dremeling a dz60pcb to make it work with a big oring.

I don't think the he switches would like pressure on them

from the sides

[swift yarrow]

Damn that makes sense, forgot about cable issues

[tepid urchin]

The o-ring usually sits on parts of the case (with the tofu where the standoffs are on the left and right

but that means the pcb has to clear those contact points

otherwise you would just end up with the back of the pcb touching the bottom of the case

maybe they could do it with a small lip on the case edge

but they would still need to add standoffs in the corners to keep the o-ring from pressing on the switches.

[lusty pond]

https://c.tenor.com/7EttrztgjiAAAAAM/palpatine-star-wars.gif

Dremel the 60 HE PCB, take one for the team, do it

[indigo mantle]

wait wdym i have the oring on the standoffs

should i have them off?

[rotund ravine]

Too scary

[iron mango]

if they do screw in stabs the stabilized keys will be less sharp in sound when pressed and more muted

its one way to improve the typing feel and acoustics

[rotund ravine]

I'm as big of a screw in stabs snob as anyone, but I'm not sure it matters much in this case

hear me out - in terms of acoustics, the goal is for less kinetic transfer to the plate and more to the PCB, which I think is a bit of diminishing return when you have a steel plate so hard fixed to the PCB. optimizing bandaid padding the stem contact on the PCB and doing the bandaid mod on the plate mount stabs will be as good as you can get with reducing harsh sound transfers. I also previously espoused how impressed I've been with the UHMWPE stems of the Gat Phantoms have been in terms of sound and feel. The stabilized keys on my 60he noticeably quieter and deeper than all my other non-stab 1u keys.

In terms of typing feel, again, if you think about the mechanics of what PCB mount stabs is trying to accomplish (in a good build) is allowing for movement and flexibility of the plate above it (around the outer stab housing), without asking the plate to do all the work of keeping the stabs in place. the design and engineering choice of this hard-fixed PCB/steel plate mount kind of makes this a non-issue. There would be zero marginal benefit in terms of flex or feel with a PCB mount on the 60he. (Unless those adventurous souls start trying PC/POM/FR4 plates)

I'm sure as with many others in the hobby, my first "custom" with PCB mount stabs was the GMMK Pro, which of course turned out to be a complete joke, as their plate tolerances were so tight, that stupid enthusiasts like myself would have to find ways to force a Durock V2 to fit, which essentially just made it a plate mount stab that happened to also screw into the PCB. Unless the keyboard allows for flex as part of the design between the PCB and plate, saying you have PCB mounted stabs is just a bit of emperor's new clothing.

Sorry, rant done. Just my opinion. If you guys figure out how to PCB mount stabs, get a nice FR4 plate with generous stab clearance, allow for flex, and make it all work with the 0.1mm actuation point -- I'll be shelling out more money for sure.

[zenith lava]

it will not

[lusty pond]

C'mon man issa joke

Kind of*

[rotund ravine]

Totally. I'm responding earnestly in part because as someone who enjoys tinkering around with custom keyboards, I've also thought about this a lot. The 60he being the best functional gaming 60% I've seen, I've definitely also thought a lot about how it would work to have PCB mounted stabs, different plates, and how all of that would work with the incredibly small 0.1mm sensor sensitivities they've designed.

Pie in the sky - some years down the road, I'd hope they work out how to adjust for user-adjustable flex between the switch/plate and PCB and still allow for the hall effect to read properly. Or design the hall effect sensor IN the bottom housing of the switch itself, allowing enthusiasts to throw whatever they want at a custom build without compromising the integrity of the switch. Until then, the boys built a perfect keyboard with this new technology of switches. The trade-offs in terms of module flexibility and customization seem to be a feature and not a problem to necessarily over-solve.

[lusty pond]

Are you talking to me or?

[lusty pond]

If you are talking to me, I believe there’s one word to answer these “mods”. Contentment. It’s a very big word that varies from Person-to-person, You are 100% spot on with these statements.

[rotund ravine]

Lol, both I suppose. It's a really good keyboard as is, cost a pretty dime too. I'm all for modding and tinkering, I just don't want anyone to actually break the thing trying to uber mod it out.

[lusty pond]

Eh

Asking for screw and stabilizers for a gaming keyboard is a pretty big request in my humble opinion

[rotund ravine]

This. 100%.

[lusty pond]

I mean, you gotta ask yourself how many people here are willing to go to that length

Definitely not many

[rotund ravine]

PC nonsense, especially keyboards, is about being happy with what you have and having fun.

[lusty pond]

All love n Passion ♥️

[lusty pond]

🐐

[mystic blaze]

the 65% wooden case arrived, it looks awesome more rounded 😄

the usbc opening is too small though... most of the cables wouldn't fit probably

[mystic veldt]

This is an interesting take, I like it. The only thing I would add is that with PCB mounted stabs you'll be less dependant on top plate tolerances to achieve a solid stabiliser fit. With the top plate design we error a bit on the tighter side to make sure that with every plate we manufacture we have a tight fit.

[scenic needle]

Are you going to customize the 65% to make it fit for the 60HE or?

[mystic blaze]

I bought it for an 65% akko board but nothing fits

I need to sand the plate and change the screewing points

and the usbc opening too

don't feel like I can do it though... let's see

[scenic needle]

Welp, good luck with that, hope it works out. Could you send some pics of the case? Kinda curious how it looks irl

[mystic blaze]

the board I wanted to put is there too 🙂

[normal marsh]

Wouldn't 65% be too big?

[mystic blaze]

for 60he yes

but the board I wanted to put is 65% too

I couldn't manage to move the screw holes

does anybody know a way to unscrew them

[normal marsh]

Tried some pliers to twist them?

[mystic blaze]

yeah

shaved of some

but didn't budge so I got scared and stopped 😄

[normal marsh]

They might be glued in perhaps?

Got a good solvent that won't ruin the wood?

[mystic blaze]

don't think so

there are washers below

they wouldn't use washers if they were glued I guess

[normal marsh]

Washers on the underside? Maybe you need to unscrew those somehow

[mystic blaze]

I don't understand why those things are not standardized, only with 60% board you got some chance...

[normal marsh]

It takes effort to standardise something because you need to bring everyone together to sus out a standard that works with everything. Since most manufacturers make the entire keyboard rather then individual parts there hasn't been a great need for a standard for yonks. Might change soonish if market pressure continues to build

[mystic blaze]

true

but that doesn't solve my problem 😄

I know I am gonna ruin a beautiful wooden case soon, damn...

[normal marsh]

Sounds like you are going to need to apply a lot of force, at least if something breaks, it's most likely to break inside, where it can't be seen

[mystic blaze]

true

[mystic blaze]

yeah, they are glued and also there is pin inside the wood too

I broke one

😄

so definitely not to turn but slowly but with force, pull

[normal marsh]

I hope you don't need all the standoffs!

[dim pier]

tbf with 60percent they got the dz and gh standard

which is really really widespread

[mystic blaze]

weird part is, the case has battery slot but none of the compatible boards have wireless

[normal marsh]

From what I heard, those standard came about because people began making replacement parts for a keyboard that had the layout, then people began making parts to assemble with the replacement parts, and it wound up being an informal standard.

[dim pier]

yes

[scenic needle]

Oh yeah, that is really n ice

[vast sigil]

Are you able to fit a low profile case like this

[mystic blaze]

right now I am trying to cut the aluminum plate and change the standoffs, so I think it has better chance of fitting 🙂 (I am not doing it for 60he though, completely different board)

if it's tofu compatible it would work

seems the same

[scenic needle]

Think it should work

Standoffs seem similair yeah

[scenic needle]

Do you have like a whole collection of boards?

[tepid urchin]

No, there is 2 kinds of o-ring mounts, one is the normal tray mount with small o-rings on top of the mounting poles.
That one just feels a tad bouncy, but still feels like a tray mount.

What we were talking about is the big o-ring around the pcb/plate mount.

[mystic blaze]

on the contrary, I just got into mechanical keyboards, but I am kind of a impatient person

I ordered wooting 60he then couldn't wait and ordered cheap akko keyboard with good keycaps and switches

but wanted wooden case

and bought something else for my gf to justify another buy

ahahah

and tbh, I am just shy of being poor

but wtf, yolo

and I just broke wire cutter trying to cut the plate

it just split in half from the metal itself

but plate is just fine

that's weird

[scenic needle]

Smart tactic haha

[velvet spindle]

Despite kbdfans saying they'll re send out my alu case now they are saying they'll refund :(

Looks like I won't be getting my alu case 😭😭

[mystic blaze]

oh that's unfortunate, but when I get something with ¨discount¨ that usually happens

sometimes they send wrong product, and I ask for changing, they say you have to return and buy again

but then I can't get the same price...

it feels like a tactic or sth

[velvet spindle]

Nah In this case it was clearence

I sent them a message to see if they can invoice me or something

[scenic needle]

The 5 degree case?

https://kbdfans.com/collections/case/products/pre-orderkbdfans-5-60-case?_pos=10&_fid=48e9d11db&_ss=c

[velvet spindle]

Not that one no

[indigo mantle]

ah okay thanks for the clarification

[glacial harbor]

changed a couple of things, the microphone is now above the keyboard instead of next to it to get a more accurate sound of the board and relubed and holee modded my spacebar.

[scenic needle]

Sounds solid my guy

[glacial harbor]

unfortunately i can only type at 60-78 wpm

[mystic blaze]

it's not slow, it shouldn't be 🙂 I am similar

[glacial harbor]

ik ik but i see ppl typing at like 140+ wpm, its crazy

[mystic blaze]

that's probably their job

or hobby I don't know

I can't imagine speed being casual

[glacial harbor]

true true

[mystic blaze]

btw, the plastic case felt better than the wooden case about the sound I guess

wooden feels more clacky maybe I don't know

with plastic it was more muted I guess

but my application of wooden case was just wrong so don't take my word for it 😄

[scenic needle]

You did transfer some foam over right?

[mystic blaze]

exactly the same foams and tape mod

[scenic needle]

I just did a test. 83 WPM. So it ain't much higher 😛

[mystic blaze]

it changes from test to test too

[scenic needle]

Tape does cause more poppy sounds. Tried without it?

[mystic blaze]

I am worse with typing.works for example

[mystic blaze]

not with wooden, I liked taped better on plastic though

let me check

[mystic blaze]

not only I took the tape mod out I also took a giant spider out

it was terryfying

anyways, the keyboard sounds quiter

without the tape

but feels like got a bit higher freq too

[glacial harbor]

wood tends to have a deeper sound signature than plastic so thats odd

[tepid urchin]

The thickness of the foam affects the sound

Thicker foams block lower frequencies

So for a deeper sound use thin foams

That’s why the tape mod works so well

It’s thin

[mystic blaze]

I know, it's exactly the same foam and tape with the plastic case that's why I was surprised

that's without the tape, it's with mobile phone recording though

with the tape

[worldly bison]

Does someone knows if it possible to make some holes in the pcb in certain spots to be able to do the gummy o ring mod?

[mystic blaze]

wooting pcb probably has much more wires running around than traditional keyboard pcb

so I don't think so but I don't have a wooting keyboard yet 🙂

[worldly bison]

Ye i thought the same, im waiting wooting's answer.

Btw, i hope someday would be possible to buy only the pcb

[indigo mantle]

not really?

i havent noticed a bunch of extra wires on the pcb

[scenic needle]

Does sound poppier with the tape. Which I like. But does make the board louder it seems like.

[mystic blaze]

yeah, I kept the tape, just afraid of the battery a bit 😄

searching for battery replacement but couldn't be sure if the connection would be OK... I don't want to mod the cables, etc.

[velvet saffron]

Just saw the video again and who's the amazing person that tried different films becasue I defo want to film mine but I,m scared it's gonna mess up the hall effect

[rotund ravine]

No film will mess up the Hall effect

I tried Deskeys and TX

Both work fine

TX just fits better

[velvet saffron]

nice

thank you so much man

just got my tx

and deskeys are on the way

Do you have a possible recording of the switches with different films ?

[gray trench]

Got my board and here is the mod list
Case Blade 60 (fits perfect no problem with usb port)
Lubed switches
Akko Wave Keycap set
Lubed and Band aid modded Durock Piano stabs
Only thing I need is a good fitting cable
Mouse is a PMM EC2

[velvet saffron]

damn that is sexy

congratz ! I love it @gray trench

[scenic needle]

Okay, I can't recommend the 60% tofu walnut case. Shit doesn't fit

Working on it with sanding it down to make it work.

[gray trench]

thanks it's my new favorite in my collection

[swift yarrow]

Oh. Thanks for the heads up. Is it the oring one?

[scenic needle]

Yeah

[swift yarrow]

Beans. Where's the interference?

[mystic blaze]

did you laugh at me by any chance? 😄

I was so curious to see it though... Hope it works out!

[autumn hill]

i'm looking for a case compatible with the pcb/plate/switch of the wooting he60 that has the "marble" sound signature to the likes of the mr. suit, jelly epoch, qk65, but is a 60%

any suggestions?

[mystic blaze]

there are marble keycaps, they should sound marble right 😄

[swift yarrow]

That's gonna be more in your muting and lubing I think. Foam and film like crazy my guy.

[autumn hill]

yeah pe foam is the main thing there

a good case would help a lot as well though

[swift yarrow]

Freebird60 would be a fair shot

[indigo mantle]

Aa I am so mad at myself

I broke one of the switches case and I lost the bag of extra switches

[glacial harbor]

uh oh D:

[glacial harbor]

can we get a sound test :o

[gray trench]

sure it's already kinda late for me and I'm to lazy to set up my mic sooo tomorrow pinky promise

[glacial harbor]

fine fine fine 🙄

does it sound good tho?👀

[gray trench]

mmh it's the best sounding linear switch board I have but nothing beats Novelkeys x Kailh Box Jade Thick Clicky

[gray trench]

@glacial harbor well I didi it today... got bored the only thing I would do is put some foam in the spacebar I have high profile keycaps and the spacebar sounds kinda hollow. I hope my breathing is not to bad stupid allergies

[glacial harbor]

sounds awesome!

[gray trench]

thanks it's almost a shame that this board is only for gaming

[mystic blaze]

why do you say it's only for gaming? I mean it might be marketed that way but it's probably smooth for typing daily, or even productivity works with DKS and mod tap etc. People are even using it as midi instrument

[lusty pond]

Uhhhhh, I mean…. I guess? What @mystic blaze said, it’s definitely marketed towards gaming but considering how far technological innovation has come, The first typing product/instrument or typewriter was designed/invented with the purpose to finish letters productively. It’s fair to say every keyboard comes with a purpose to type no matter what.

[heady lichen]

It works, but there is a sizeable gap to the left/right side. Use screws that came with the 60HE (the head is a bit larger), or else it might not be secure.

[snow vessel]

Have they announced if they would ever sell pcb and switches only?

[safe star]

got my wooting but i had to fix the spacebar stabs asap. Spacebar bias is real haha. I put some stab pads on the pcb. I did not cut the stab stem additional leg because I wanted a deeper/quiter sound profile. Lubed the stab stems with 205g0 and the wires with bdz. I reversed the spacebar keycap and made sure to reverse the switch as well.

Doing all of these things made the sound of the board better overall.

[glacial harbor]

spacebar stabilizers. holee modded, lubed, clipped stems

not the best but it's good enough for me

[gray trench]

Because I need a numpad and the f row for work

[scenic needle]

Need to remove a bit of the top and bottom to make it fit. Left and right have plenty of space.

[mystic blaze]

is it the plate only or pcb too?

[scenic needle]

Both unfortunately. So you have to remove quite some to make it fit.

[fossil venture]

They did talk about this in some twitch streams, basically it doesn't really make economic sense for them to produce the board in this way and so no plans to sell it separately.

[normal marsh]

Couldn't you just get the Wooting two HE then? That has everything you want, and is using the same tech. Only real difference from what I know is that it's slightly slower (still lightning fast) as it needs to scan a larger board

[mystic blaze]

you can ask around if anyone has router machine, with correct bit and a stable clip I think it would work best

you can even but some gasket stickers to the bottom

[mystic blaze]

wooting 2he is exactly what you are looking for then?

[lilac ingot]

what is the best settings for low input for fortnite

[gray trench]

Mmmh yes and no it's full size but I like clicky switches in my work board because the sound of fast typing reminds me of the Normandy

[mystic blaze]

buy a clicky keyboard put a wooting sticker on it?

[gray trench]

I already foiled it with some wood look :D

Work board

[latent hatch]

ya im going to see what people can do with it first before i do any crazy mods

[rotund ravine]

I think I’m done. Really really happy with this keyboard. The MVP is the engineering of the PCB/Lekker/firmware. Gonna keep it like this until I can think of any other tweaks/mods.

KBDFANS Blade60
Lekker Switches - 205g0, TX Films
Drop + Mito Keysterine Keycaps
Drop Phantom Stabilizers - clipped 205g0, wires 206g0
Bandaid mod - stabilizer-plate/stem pads
KBDFANS Switch Pad - spacebar only
Kilmat case foam
Tape/Tempest x1

[idle holly]

is the stock case nice?

or should i cop an aftermarket

[lusty pond]

Stock case Is nice, If you want something more heavier or robust then sure

All preference

[glacial harbor]

can we get a soundtest?

[rotund ravine]

Not a streamer sort so I’m sorry I don’t have a proper mic. But I’ll try to put something up soon.

[latent hatch]

starts slow clap great job on that mod wow. Loving it.

Blade 60 sexy

I was also thinking of doing the films and space bar foam. When I go for it.

[swift yarrow]

yeah, great build! glad you're happy with it

I think I'm going to just lube and tune mine and be done with it. Aftermarket cases are tempting but I think I want to put my money into other projects. Maybe even another build.

||gmmk pro||

[modern copper]

What do you use numpad for. I’m software dev and honestly don’t use numpad at all. F row I only use for quick run/debugging (stepping over code) but with little configuration I could just switch a profile for debugging and treat 1-0 keys as F row with little to no effort. 60 is just fine even when you use it to code 🙂

I actually get annoyed with my full sized keyboard atm I almost never use F row and definitely never using numpad so it’s perfect

[gray trench]

I'm a chemical engineer and I need to punch in a ton of long digit numbers and it's so much easier and faster on a numpad
The F row is a must atm because I need to click like 3-5 different F keys to get into deep menus and that's waaaaaay faster than doing it via mouse and GUI

[modern copper]

https://tenor.com/view/lol-gif-23945636

Makes sense. Do you use wooting two he?

[gray trench]

not quite these are the lab rats (what a nice nickname for our coworkers) I'm 95% of the time in front of a computer and tell them how to do stuff quicker and more efficient or I try to explain our boss that what he wants is impossible and if I could figure it out I get a Nobel price :D

nope I use a modded Akko board because I wanted something wireless so I have less cables flying around
If you scroll up I posted a pic of it

[modern copper]

Or get a 60he and a separate mini board for f row and numpad win-win https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/dnu0bt/people_keep_complaining_that_gherkins_are/

[neon bay]

I can finally present to you... My 60HE in the Freebird 60.
Also, I tape and O-Ring modded it and its a pretty tight fit 😅 Had to fight in order to get the USB-C Cable in. Additionally, I split the foam the 60HE came with and put only the lower part in, since with the silicone it didn't fit or flex at all. Not super shure if it actually sound better tho 😭
Haven't touched to switches tho, probably will lube and film them tomorrow and am hoping it gets even more refinded. Also my spacebar thocks like crazy, just have to make it sound less hollow somehow.

[gray trench]

looks nice

[gray trench]

looks like a fun side project but I already have the next project in mind another 40%

[latent hatch]

I thought I would miss the f row. Was thinking about getting a macro pad. But I bound fn to my windows key. And can one hand f1-f5 no prob

[thin flame]

does the pe foam mod work with the 60he?

[swift yarrow]

I mean yeah it's possible. It depends on your preference. It's already pretty foamed tho.

[bold skiff]

Friendly reminder to everyone, keycap o-rings block the full-range (4.0mm) of the analog switch, do be aware of that and adjust your gamepad mapping analog curve to compensate for it

[hazy sentinel]

would it work if i use the tofu60 and use the o ring mod

[thin flame]

im pretty sure it will work, as long as the usb-c port is usable

[hazy sentinel]

thx

[idle holly]

Aw my batch got pushed back

[hazy sentinel]

what would be a good stab to replace the stock ones

[glacial harbor]

https://www.amazon.com/DUROCK-Transparent-Stabilizer-Gold-Plated-Stabilizers/dp/B0B2HMW5SR/?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_w=l2sYR&content-id=amzn1.sym.5fe95cd4-8512-42fa-bf21-63d83b898785&pf_rd_p=5fe95cd4-8512-42fa-bf21-63d83b898785&pf_rd_r=HGJ4WP7QM5PGH3DZS2Q5&pd_rd_wg=rPTYl&pd_rd_r=a5ba4d76-162b-42b1-a06c-8aabfa2d3c97&ref_=pd_gw_ci_mcx_mr_hp_atf_m

i ordered these, not sure how good they are yet

@hazy sentinel

[opaque pivot]

https://mechjunkies.com/products/maze-64?variant=41663255773373 might get one of these to see if it fits

[velvet saffron]

https://youtu.be/igy_n3f7VeI?t=632

tfw you just got a coiled cable specifically for the wooting

[glacial harbor]

it still works, just not with rgb on

or at full brightness at least

[velvet saffron]

but performance wise it's fine?

coz rn it feels like i've just put 60 euros in the drain

[neat sequoia]

those grand prix keycaps he uses are so sick.

I was going to go all white, but now I want some color

Grey and Orange would be a theme I would love, but have not found one yet.

[velvet saffron]

[sage herald]

Does anyone know if the wooting 60he would fit in this case? GH60 Walnut Wooden Case Wrist Rest 2 in 1 for 60% Mini Mechanical Gaming Keyboard Compatible Pok3r DZ60 YD60MQ XD64 https://amzn.eu/d/2plEIkj

[velvet spindle]

Yes

It'll fit

[mystic blaze]

@scenic needle had problems fitting it to wooden case, so maybe he would suggest otherwise

[scenic needle]

I have used the Tofu one, so perhaps it somewhat different. It all looks compatible to me. Not sure though, but is the DZ60 different from the GH60?

[mystic blaze]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[mystic blaze]

did you make it work? or gave up?

[scenic needle]

I don't have the appropriate tools to thin our the sides to make it fit. So I am just using sanding paper, and it takes a bit of time haha. In a few days I try to sand it down further.

[mystic blaze]

godspeed 🙂

[sage herald]

Hmm… might just go for it. Will report back if I do.

[hybrid rapids]

Yes, just don't pump brightness to max. 50-70% should stabilize it.

[velvet saffron]

I'm not gonna turn on rgb at all.... Sh..Should be fine right?

[bold skiff]

50-70% is still going to be perfectly safe, it only causes reading problems once supply voltage drops

50-70% depends partially on how many LED's you have on and what colour (White takes most power)

[rigid spear]

@neon bay did you get the navy blue? Looks like the color is quite a bit different from online and considering options.

[neon bay]

yes its navy blue, but its not really that strong of a blue like the vendors pictures suggest, but more of a teal-ish blue. But still a really nice finish. Only problem is its really hard to find matching keycaps, black looks fine and a white set also look really clean, but otherwise its really tricky.

[neon bay]

#996573707235491950 message

you can see the color better here

[velvet saffron]

I see thanks I dont have see through keycaps so I'll see might just not turn the rgb on

[neat sequoia]

You’re referring to o-rings on the switches, and not mounting the plate with o-rings, right? (Probably a stupid question)

[bold skiff]

yes o-rings that go inside the keycap and touch the switch housing when pressed down

[dusk bridge]

Just finished lubing my 60he and it took roughly 6 hours but it was worth it it sounds great and feels amazing. Also its my firt time lubing a keyboard👍

Also that video sucks 😅 but whatever u guys get the idea

[gray trench]

great job mate
sounds good and not over lubed!

found a cheap solution for not finding a good green cable or the coiled cable problems
may I present you the thick black cable mod :D
just wrapped the original wooting cable in some cable management hose I had laying around

[glacial harbor]

sound test in the blade60

[mystic blaze]

really love the green theme

[glacial harbor]

idk how to get rid of that pinging coming from the case

[pale brook]

Got some UKIYO caps on my board, not bad

Wish I could turn light further down on my space bar would help with the seethroughness

[fossil venture]

Put some kbdfans spacebar foam in the spacebar, not only will it sound better but it stops the light shining through

Can also tape over extra post hole if the bar has then and its causing hotspots.

[pale brook]

thanks will order some now! 🙂

[gray trench]

Thanks my whole desk is themed green/wood with some black because you can't avoid it...

[gray trench]

looks great I love the colour scheme

[rotund ravine]

Kilmat

[gray trench]

if you use a third party case put some foam in it and tape mod the PCB
or the expensive way is some special sound eating latex thingy forgot the name

[rotund ravine]

If i recall, I think he already tape modded

I'll add specifically for the Blade60, the implementation of the "o-ring stand off mount" is pretty cheesy

The foam stickers don't do much

You could also get some actually o-rings and find some longer screws so you don't have to screw in the PCB to the case so tightly

[iron mango]

add foam inside the spacebar or you can also paint the inside black

[neon bay]

got these as well, but had to send them back since the colour didn't match up

[gray trench]

I have the Blade60 and have no ping problem

[rotund ravine]

Oh, I agree, I don't have any issues with mine either

But I've also replaced the case foam and did a few other mods

But I could see how a steel plate with a hard tray mount could lead to some case ping

[glacial harbor]

i used the foam from the 60he stock case as it is thicker than the one that comes with the blade60

helped with the ping but its still slightly there

[white holly]

Ceramic keycaps thoughts?

[normal marsh]

Sounded good to me, bought some sets

Still awaiting fulfilment

[swift yarrow]

Expensive for my tastes but a wonderful idea, they have sounded pretty great

[mystic blaze]

I think it's reasonable price if the normal plastic keycaps can cost more than 100€

ceramic is sth like 130 € iirc

[neat sequoia]

Where are y’all buying ceramic from?

[crimson stratus]

I'm a little concerned about the weight

you may need an extra spring on the stem especially for the space bar

https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/cerakey-first-keycaps-set-that-made-of-ceramic/x/15508155#/

[mystic blaze]

they recommend 60gr for spacebar and put 70gr with the perk but maybe 60gr of lekker switches would be enough?

I don't think I would buy it, but if I consider buying any keycaps for 100+ € than I would definitely consider buying ceramic keycaps 🙂

[mint pivot]

I HATE LUBING SWITCHES.

[hazy sentinel]

me too

[crimson stratus]

Looking at the force graph, it should have just enough force to return 32g, but it's prolly gonna feel sluggish.

[normal marsh]

I think they re-engineered the Spacebar to cut off a lot of weight, so it should in theory way a lot less then 32g now, however I imagine it's still going to affect the feel a lot.

Has anyone found heavier springs that work with the Lekker switches?

[crimson stratus]

I see a lot of topre keyboards have an extra spring on the space bar keycap stem. I imagine something similar can be found with an inner diameter fitting an mx style stem.

also gotta make sure it's non-magnetic as well I guess

[golden oasis]

What mods did you do too get that sound profile?

[fleet apex]

Noob question. Corsair PBT keycaps come with O-rings. What do you guys think, should one install to 60HE with or without the rings?

[neat sequoia]

I think the masses have ruled, No.

[fleet apex]

Cool thanks. Dont know yet whether I will go with the gamer see-through aesthetic with Corsair or buy some solid vintageish pbt keycaps. I'm on the fence. Maybe I just buy both and do a switcharoo when ever one gets boring 😄

[crimson stratus]

FYI corsair keyboards have a non standard bottom row

[mystic blaze]

Those gaming style fonts are a bit annoying for my taste

[fleet apex]

Yeah, the font is the most offputting thing about those 😐

[mystic blaze]

I don't understand how that became the standard...

[fleet apex]

Does this mean they wont fit the board perfectly? or... sorry, I'm a total noob with these things.

[crimson stratus]

No. Notice how the window and menu keys are square shaped

[fleet apex]

Because I think I saw some recommendations and maybe even a photo that corsair pro pbt nordic set would be a good fit with 60HE

[crimson stratus]

compared 60he's 1.25U shaped

[fleet apex]

Okay.. well then, thank you.

I think in this photo it looks standard though, not square shaped buttons in bottom row..

I think there are two sets out there, there's a PBT PRO-set which is standard bottom row, and then there is a PBT replacement kit with non-standard bottom row for some specific Corsair kb-models.

[crimson stratus]

hm you're right, didn't know they made those

a shame it doesn't have the textured space bar, I kinda liked that

[fleet apex]

textured keys do feel nice.

[gray trench]

wtf it's fun D: it's so calming and relaxing

[swift yarrow]

Yeah man embrace the zen

[jovial sleet]

damn

the novatouch TKL

there's a grand total of 2 ISO prototype boards in the wild and I want one
the rest are all ansi

super scarce board because they were made from...august to september of 2016 iirc

my dream board back then, although I'd love one now

[crimson stratus]

That used to be my main. Did the upstroke silencing mod. Then Wooting one came out and I ended up giving it to a friend. Much regret

[opaque pivot]

maze 64 fits

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/551358841426673668/1004877515334098974/image0.jpg

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/551358841426673668/1004877515778687097/image1.jpg

usb port alignment is pretty spot on

[undone dragon]

like a glove

[neat sequoia]

They don’t ship to USA, right?

[opaque pivot]

there is a US vendor for the maze 64 if thats what youre wondering

its cannonkeys

[neat sequoia]

Oh. Nice. Thank you

[dusk bridge]

All i did was put it in a tofu 60 and put the foam from the wooting case into the tofu. Ill post an update when i tape mod it

Any specific tape i should use ive heard painters tape is good

[sterile cave]

Suffocated it with foam and lubed switches

And some cheap pbt caps

Oem

[mystic blaze]

https://www.amazon.de/-/en/GK61xs-GK64xs-Anodized-Aluminum-Housing/dp/B09HQV48FV/ref=psdc_430221031_t1_B07SRBDWL8?th=1 do you think switches would be visible with that case? or just the keycaps

[glacial harbor]

since it doesn't say low-profile, i'd assume you'd just be able to see the keycaps

[mystic blaze]

I found a picture like this, but the plate seems too high still, no?

[glacial harbor]

no

that will cover the switches

[mystic blaze]

I couldn't find a complete keyboard with this case, I can't really imagine how it would look but seems nice tbh

wth, I ordered it...

I will be broke soon

[hybrid rapids]

What is the original designer's website?

Mechjunkies

ok added

[round tapir]

looks nice, might also go for this considering its only 33$ on US amazon. post pics when you get it setup!

[mystic blaze]

it is estimated to be delivered end of august, but no problem as I am waiting for the ARM version 🙂

[round tapir]

ah yea so am i haha

[mystic blaze]

I bought blank grey keycaps from the same seller (ymdk I guess) thought I would use them for alphas and keep the modifiers original blacks

[round tapir]

should look cool

[mystic blaze]

that's the hope 😄

tbh, I really like wooting stock case, but never had aluminium case, so that's cheap one to try 🙂

[round tapir]

yea the price is great.

and seems decent quality

[sterile cave]

Does anyone know if putting a foam plate between plate and PCB mess with the hall effect function in the weeting he two?

Or it's fine but I just need to make sure the plate is screwed in properly?

[fossil venture]

There is already foam between the plate and the pcb.

[unborn star]

I hate to ask for favors but I can't find any non magnetic springs that will fit the lekker switch, I need some heavier duty springs. Can someone help ?

[lusty pond]

There’s currently no option available, You can search Keyword terms in the server and see estimated dimensions of the springs, not sure who it was but I believe someone was trying to find exact size and so far no update so I guess S.O.L.?

I also believe the wooting team will make a heavier option in the future

[unborn star]

unfortunate. Do you think the ceramic keycaps by cerakeys will be okay? I'm mainly worried about the spacebar

[lusty pond]

Probably not the best idea but when heavier springs are available I think it would be okay, looking at the chat logs it looks like you will need a 70 G spring or higher for it to work properly

Actuation force/In terms of rapid trigger usage of course

[rich cobalt]

Novelkeys is having a flash sale of a few nice, in-stock, keycap sets if anyone is still looking for something for their custom. I wish my MILKSHAKE set wasn't just delivered lol -- $50 (down from $85) would have been nice.

[neat sequoia]

I think ceramic is the best for literally everything, but I am hella skeptical for keycaps

[unborn star]

I mean to be fair the pair im looking at has been reviewed by reputable enthusiasts like hipyotech and some others but I feel ya on that one

[neat sequoia]

Yea I really don't think I have a valid reason to be so skeptical. Still am though.

[hazy sentinel]

Im skeptical too. I think they might be heavy and I wouldn't like the texture for typing, but I have never tried them.

[wise radish]

any suggestions for a tofu 60 swap?

[neat sequoia]

Pretty seamless, follow BadSeedTech’s video.

Hardest part is getting the keycaps you are happy with

[jovial sorrel]

https://www.amazon.com/Finish-Positioning-Plate-Mounted-Stabilizers-YD60MQ/dp/B08ND23Y2M?th=1 has anyone had experience on this?

[mystic blaze]

it feels cheap till you get to the shipping and taxes part 🙂

[gusty ingot]

Loving it so far!

[mystic blaze]

nice!

[naive lion]

i figured a good way to get a plate manufactured but maybe i try an in stock aluminum or brass first

to be honest i think i'm going with aluminum

[fossil venture]

I doubt an aluminium plate will be rigid enough for the 60he, honestly not sure why anyone really wants to swap out the plate.

[blissful sage]

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000343830064.html

this should fit the 60he right?

Says case for GH60/ DZ60

[neon condor]

Yeah

[blissful sage]

thank you 🙏🏽

[sonic socket]

is there a list of manufacturers or compatible cases to the Wooting 60HE?

[hybrid rapids]

Wooting 60HE compatible cases. Verified by community. Let us know if yours is not in between:

https://wooting-technologies.notion.site/de7a52e2b5a941258a17e448b0c9d9b0?v=5ec0b31c59db4a51b8a86a1288249e9f

[opaque pivot]

Freebird60 is compatible? Mine couldn't fit the wooting. The bottom left and bottom right screw doesn't align properly.

[thin flame]

is there a way to just buy the case? or do you have to buy the whole kit?

[opaque pivot]

i think you have to buy the whole kit

[opaque pivot]

thats not the case they were looking for

[lusty pond]

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[untold hedge]

@opaque pivot @hazy sentinel u can ask this person. Cymen already got a freebird60 built

A freebird60 case with wooting 60he

[opaque pivot]

didnt they do oring mod?

[naive lion]

does anyone think that the lekker switches would improve smoothness with the use of a break in machine

[neon bay]

Yes. It's a bit tricky at first, it it does fit. I even tape modded it and put the bottom layer of the wooting 60HE foam in there, so it was a pretty tight fit. Only thing is, it doesn't have that much flex, but otherwise the USB would be too offset. But it does indeed fit.

[opaque pivot]

so the screw holes on your FB line up?

all 4 of them?

[neon bay]

Yes.

[opaque pivot]

well i guess your fb is in the minority since 2/3 freebirds in this server have issues

[gaunt abyss]

https://twitter.com/xaizone/status/1556192673521963009

xaizone (@xaizone)

lubing 4 the first time;d going pretty smooth so far @WootingKB

Twitter · Aug 7, 2022, 8:17 AM

sorry for the hiss, i just quickly recorded it with my phone

[velvet spindle]

I'm honestly dreading the lube process

[gaunt abyss]

same 💀

[hybrid rapids]

Good that you mention it. It was blank and I assumed it was added because compatibility

[neon bay]

Mh yeah strange. It didn't plop in easily, I just tried rearranging it a few times till it fit.

[opaque pivot]

yeah maybe put a solid maybe or ymmv next to the fb60

[ruby crescent]

is this the default case?

nvm saw on your twitter

[gaunt abyss]

also got the fb60, some holes aren't aligned but other than that it's still pretty good

[hazy sentinel]

What ?

[untold hedge]

@hazy sentinel sry, miss clicked. It was another person I should have tagged 😊

[fossil venture]

Dude my springs haven't moved in 3 days... So much for DPD express shipping. fml.

[neat sequoia]

That’s how shipping is nowadays. Pay for 2-day shipping, it somehow only applies to the moment the shipping company receives it. 2-4 day “processing” is the new BS

[fossil venture]

Oh DPD have had it for that long.... But yeah, it's stupid. If it doesn't move on Monday I'll contact DPD and find out why. Would have been faster with cheaper postnl

[mystic blaze]

DPD and GLS are the worst companies ever

[velvet saffron]

Mannnn I have everything ready, lube, spring lube films tofu 60 case,foam, orings for burger mount, keycaps, custom desk pad is on the way

https://c.tenor.com/UXP4CNpjRRQAAAAM/im-ready-im-excited-to-see-you.gif

[neat sequoia]

What if I just use silicone post covers, and an o-ring on top, instead of a true “burger” mount?

[hazy sentinel]

this might be stupid but will dyanMat dampener affect the manget from the keyboard

or any aluminium car dampener

with tofu 60

[mystic blaze]

after a long search, that's the only picture I could find of the case, still not so revealing but the frame looks thinner than I thought

[naive wadi]

Hey guys, question form a noob here 😅 ,
Is there a keycaps profile that you would recommend for the wooting 60HE ? I heared that cherry profile might scrap and you'd have to rotate the switches.

[mystic blaze]

that's the only exception you can expect, other than that, all is preference

some people like XDA which is a flat profile meaning all the rows are at the same height

some preferer spherical profiles like cherry, oem, etc in which the rows in the middle are lower in height than in the corners or similar

cherry is shorter than most of the profiles and most common produced one

[naive wadi]

That's a very detailed answer!
I think cherry would be most suitable for my usage (Games/Coding) even if it requires rotating the switches. I'll probably attempt to lube them anyway 🤞

Thanks @mystic blaze !

[naive lion]

anyone looking at plate swapping this may be helpful

try to avoid stiffness that is low compared to steel

[neon bay]

Currently in the process of removing the switches to lube them. There is still some lube residue in the PCB from factory, should I worry about that and wipe it of or just leave it?

[ruby crescent]

I would just wipe it off

[neon bay]

Alright, I'll have a look. Also, god damn applying films to the lekkers is dreadfull

[blissful sage]

does anyone has dsa profile keycaps on the 60he?

[round tapir]

i actually kinda like it 🤔

[mystic blaze]

it doesn't look bad, but not enough data for me 🙂 I can't visualize anything, I need to see in every aspect 😄

[jovial sorrel]

Case is just sitting here waiting for the pcb… waiting is the hardest part

[strange torrent]

What’s the case made out of?

[undone dragon]

looks like poured resin

[opaque pivot]

i have some on the way why

[jovial sorrel]

thats the kbdfans alopow resin case, then i did a silicone pour with some dye

[blissful sage]

i was going to ask how they fit since i have a set ready ,just waiting on my 60he

[opaque pivot]

i mean they should be fine

[fossil venture]

omg I can't get over the sound difference now I finally lubed my switched, so much deeper.

Love it.

Couple of quick snaps from my phone - Tofu 60 e-white, sorbothane 40 duro inside, tai hao miami lights caps (with kdbfans spacebar foam), lekker linear 50 spring swap, hand lubed and the midnight blue wrist wrest. Just need to find a nice custom cable now.

forgot the second pic

Looks a million times better in person and I just love how it feels and sounds.

[hazy sentinel]

i need to see more blade60 builds, these tofu builds look so clean

[rigid spear]

I’m just going to come out and say it. I can’t wrap my head around the blade60. It looks like someone did the machining while drunk.

[hazy sentinel]

kinda matches me meshify 2 compact

[fickle blade]

should work with the 60he right?

https://www.amazon.com/YMDK-Profile-Keycaps-Mechanical-Keyboard/dp/B08R362912/

[mystic blaze]

all the mx stem style keycaps work... if you are not gonna mix and match, you don't have to go oem

[fossil venture]

Umm, that 64 layout bottom row doesn't look like it's standard bottom row to me.

[mystic blaze]

there might be differences with mod and space keys length that's true

[dusky veldt]

Is getting a little lube on the magnet alright

[dusky veldt]

The magnet on the cylander?

[hybrid rapids]

No issue

[dusky veldt]

If I touched the magnet with my nail by accident is it damaged and won't work at all?

[fossil venture]

It'll be fine. I chucked all the stems in a bowl for lubing and they snapped together and all sorts they all work fine. Seems to be a pretty durable switch.

[lost bramble]

bro it’s a magnet it’s gonna work

ur nail ain’t breaking it

[hazy sentinel]

my ugly looks would repel it tho

[brave field]

Did anyone already put Aluminium keycaps on their wooting?

Aluvia ones for example

So tempted to pick a set up with a fjell base for a good ping.. but not sure if this will diminish the perks of the wooting 🙂

[crimson stratus]

I preordered the Gateron aluminum set, which also comes out in September. Wonder which will arrive first: that or the ARM 60he

[brave field]

Yes, was actually also looking at that one 🙂

So you are not too worried that it will ruin the experience?

[crimson stratus]

I got other sets. If I don't end up liking it I'll just switch

[lusty pond]

Space bar was giving me issues

On .1

[brave field]

Dillema's 😆 Its not woth a 500 euro gamble

[lusty pond]

I recommend heavier springs

[brave field]

Ohh, only the space bar?

[lusty pond]

Si

[brave field]

Are there heavier spring out already?

[lusty pond]

Unfortunately there's only one option currently that is not heavy

[brave field]

So you aren't going to run with them?

[lusty pond]

I reached out to multiple compression spring manufacturers and the price is several hundred dollars because it's made in large quantities

I will use them when heavy springs are available

[brave field]

Hahah why dont you just buy them bulk and sell them to wooting 😆

[lusty pond]

Eh XD, well that isn't the issue with me that I would say can be a possibility but I think wooting as a company can get them cheaper

The problem with United States manufacturers is they don't want to do the math for you

Basically every manufacturer in the US I ruled out, I have two companies still waiting to get back to me of estimates in China

For 100g force from china

[brave field]

They are very quick in stamping the made in de USA sticker on it on the other hand haha

[lusty pond]

Hahahaha yes very much so

[brave field]

But fair enough, thank you for saving me 500 euros for now 🙂 Just got into the hobby and saw all these shiny keycaps coming by

[lusty pond]

Np! And if you are ever thinking of getting a aluvia set I believe it's available for a reasonable price from a Singapore distributor

Last time I checked it was basically $10 or something above retail from novel keys, they ship via DHL so shipping will probably be a bit expensive but I wish I bought that from them because it would've saved me $70 ish dollars

[fickle blade]

these keycaps should be compatible too, right? https://www.amazon.com/Black-Keycaps-Profile-Mechanical-Keyboard/dp/B071WK769T/

Im a bit of a noob to keyboard modding

just getting into it

[feral siren]

Yes

OEM profile means low effort compatibility. Even cherry profiles work you just have to flip the switches vertically

[worldly summit]

Hi quick question here. If I used different keycaps will have to invert the switches ? I remember watching a video about this for the 60he but I can’t find the video or remember.

[mystic blaze]

if you have interference with the keycaps you can

but you don't even have to do it for all the switches

cherry profile switches might cause troubles, rest wouldn't most likely

[worldly summit]

Thank you @mystic blaze !

[fickle blade]

ah thank you that makes sense

I was looking at this case, and from what I can tell, it should be fine right? https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0B4NZ7BG8/

[swift yarrow]

Yes

Good find btw

[fickle blade]

i try

[shrewd lake]

What keycap set is that? It looks so good

[brave field]

I did recall that someone mentioned something about challanges with a wooden case. Might want to use the search function and see if you can locate the owner

[spiral hearth]

what is this set? I have an Air Force Blue Tofu 60 on the way too

[indigo mantle]

it is this one: https://kbdfans.com/products/pbtfans-doubleshot-spark?_pos=1&_sid=8be5327a7&_ss=r

[indigo mantle]

^

[lost bramble]

I got the PBT fans purpolch and gmk red samurai

PBTFans looks promising af

[indigo mantle]

sorry I sent the wrong one, here it is https://drop.com/buy/soulcat-to-the-universe-cherry-profile-pbt-keycap-set

[fickle blade]

I think that was the tofu one right?

[brave field]

Not sure, just remember picking that up somewhere

@lusty pond do you know what it was?

[shrewd lake]

ty ty

[lusty pond]

Yeah I think one of the members of the wooting team confirmed a wooden case has some issues

[brave field]

Ahh nice one! Thanks

[mystic blaze]

the one @scenic needle bought was different I believe, it was not tray mount if I remember correctly. but the one he showed might fit. Sander can correct me if I am wrong.

[scenic needle]

The tofu doesn't fit properly yeah

The height is a problem with the tofu case.

[lusty pond]

I could buy another wooting keeb for that price

[lost bramble]

for springs

holy

which springs ? what weight

[lusty pond]

Yurp, +$50 shipping -_-

I requested 90g

But depending on coils/free length it could be 90-120g

They told me “we won’t know exact spring force till spring made” I was like ohhhh great, there’s the catch

I rather attempt to prototype first before I get a bunch tbf

[light sleet]

did you have any success?

[light sleet]

did you succeed with this one?

[light sleet]

which case is this please?

[mystic blaze]

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005002159671413.html I think it's called the alopow 60% resin case

[scenic needle]

Haven't worked on it further. But I am pretty sure if I spent some more time on it, it would work. But it sure doesn't look as pretty as before since I'm pretty clumsy 😂

[light sleet]

Are you able to send any pics to show the snagging points?

[tepid urchin]

Sangeo finally arrived

Now I only need my 60He

And the custom plate

[mystic blaze]

wow, that seems like would fit the wooting wrist rest perfectly

[lost bramble]

wowwww

i want one

too spenny

anyone tried the fjell 60%

[tepid urchin]

I had a hard time chasing a black one without win key blockers

I only saw two on mm

One is this one. The other one is in russia, and the guy wants like 700$ for it.

[spiral hearth]

The standard (aluminum) Tofu 60 or the Wooden Tofu 60 only?

[neat sequoia]

The wooden one.

[spiral hearth]

Phew. My Aluminum Tofu 60 is out for delivery.

[neat sequoia]

Niiice. What color? Going with keycaps too? If so, which?

[spiral hearth]

I was going to go with Air Force Blue, but having recently had great success in repainting a GMMK Pro (hunter green). I've gone with the dark grey. I haven't ordered new keycaps yet, but my PC theme is like an icy blue

[spiral hearth]

I have these https://www.gloriousgaming.com/products/gpbt-keycaps in Ocean Blue sitting in my closet so I might pop those on in the mean time

and I also have these keycaps I could put on https://drop.com/buy/drop-mito-project-mythos-pegaso-custom-keycap-set?searchId=cb5fb94c76519064ac2e45fedb49d9ba&defaultSelectionIds=963998

[scenic needle]

The wooden tofu. The aluminium fits perfectly fine :)

[neat sequoia]

Oo @spiral hearth that will look nice either way, me thinks. My current plan is to go all white, with a couple black accent keys, maybe a wood space bar, in a white tofu60. It’s pretty boring though. Might splurge on color

[sage herald]

Hey, I have yet to order the case and keyboard so haven't had the chance to try it out yet

[lost bramble]

i’m about to order another case

blade 60 or bakeneko 60

bakeneko is like 200shipped to my country

blade is 100-110

[spiral hearth]

is the bakeneko even compatible? I don't see it on the list and it has a center mounted USB slot vs the left justified of the Wooting/Tofu/Blade

[lost bramble]

not for wooting

i have my tofu for the wooting

[pearl epoch]

So is the freebird60 not compatible with the 60he?

[lusty pond]

Mixed results from what I have read

[strange torrent]

I need 70g spring for ceramic spacebar to work, where can I get that?

[normal marsh]

You are feked I am afraid my friend. Someone looked into sourcing their own springs and it wound up costing $165 for a packet of 300 springs.

Unless there are enough of us to pitch in together no one will be willing to buy them.

[jovial sleet]

I'd be happy to buy 115 if they're 120 gram bottom out

perhaps...80 preload

[normal marsh]

It might have that weight.

Don't know quite yet as they need to prototype a few to make thinga worse

[lusty pond]

Yup and that’s why I’m probably going to wait for the wooting teams uncertainty of “other options” for the time being, Not worth the hassle/use of personal capital, Especially for $215 because they want to charge me $50 shipping, I rather work on a custom case via 3D Software for now

[hard halo]

60he is here but don't have keycaps yet...

[outer geyser]

Hello. Can the springs be quick oiled? I heard somewhere they couldnt. Just wanna make sure

Thanks in advance

[glacial harbor]

looks awesome

[neat sequoia]

Trying to decide between DCX Black-on-White keycaps, or PBTfans BoW

https://drop.com/buy/drop-dcx-black-on-white-keycap-set?defaultSelectionIds=967335

https://kbdfans.com/collections/pbtfans/products/pbtfans-doubleshot-bow

[fossil venture]

You mean throwing them in a bag with some oil? Yes they can, did mine by hand but you should have no issue with oil and a bag.

[undone dragon]

you must post a soundtest when you get the keeb

[hazy sentinel]

I’m having hard time finding nice keycaps in ISO Nordic layout. Any recommendations?

[narrow loom]

I've ordered these https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005002990704857.html still waiting on them though

[hazy sentinel]

Thank you 🙏🏼

[tepid urchin]

I did a review on the pbtfans wob. Thy use the same molds: https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/waypw5/my_review_of_pbtfans_keycaps_why_your_backspace/

The lettering is not GMK quality. But it's still very good. And they are the thickest keycaps I've come across so far.

the problems with the top of the r's and e's is far less noticeable from viewing distance and angle.

They are as expensive as GMK tho

but they are really nice

from feel

no warpage

The DCX have weird kerning but the letter molds are a bit better

so if you care more about the letters shape go for the dcx

if you mind letter spacing or want the thicker keycaps go with pbtfans

[neat sequoia]

@tepid urchin thank you for this. Very informative

[tepid urchin]

You're welcome

Oh and the dcx are abs

So will shine earlier

And have a different sound

[mellow mirage]

are these keycaps compatible?

I have one of the higround sets laying around, if not ill just order another set

[thin flame]

what desk is that?

[opaque pivot]

PBTfans

every time

its just a bow set, get the set in the material that wont shine

anyone else had trouble removing the switches from the plate?

im having to apply so much force im warping the LED window slightly

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/551358841426673668/1007824698014441633/image0.jpg

[opaque pivot]

i figured out why this switch is so damn hard to remove from the plate. In addition to the 2 clips that you can depress with a switch puller, there are 2 more clips (red rectangle) on the sides of the switches that you can't depress. Unless wooting invents some sort of 4 pronged switch puller that can perfectly interface with the lekker switch

for reference, this standard mx switch (gateron CJ) doesn't have anything in the same area

also if lekker can reach CJ levels of tolerance that would be amazing

right now it feels like an old gateron

[tepid urchin]

Wooting recommends to take the pcb off first and then push the switches put of the platr from the bottom. Maybe that will help.

[opaque pivot]

thats such an awkward operation since you still have to depress the 2 pins with switch pullers

[lusty pond]

Mine were a pain to pull out until I had to squeeze a bit more