Spoiler Zone

[buoyant heart]

only wanted the box

[hazy thistle]

wooo, mine's got lucky i see

[buoyant heart]

u mean anonymous right

[hazy thistle]

ya

[civic trail]

Yesirr idk if allowed to post it but yea

[eternal sleet]

360 movement is about to be 🔥 on Roblox 🤣👏

[topaz leaf]

ngl

having analog movement in Fallout: New Vegas is a game changer

not that avoiding traps was that hard anyway

[eternal sleet]

Loool resident evil too

Ooooow3ee

[crisp solar]

was expecting from comments on earlier analog kbs that the gamepad mode would be kinda niche and hard to make use of bc short travel etc

its much better than expected

[topaz leaf]

resident evil with analog is actually goated

RE4 with keyboard, using full controller mapping actually feels pretty fluid

actually, I'll post my profile for it if anyone wants to give it a go

[eternal sleet]

Resident evil 4 remastered is going to be lit

[topaz leaf]

it does use the numpad though, so no 60% plebs

[eternal sleet]

My favorite resident evil out of all

[topaz leaf]

yeah, but I'm kinda worried we'll lose some of the cheesy B-cast horror shit

[eternal sleet]

[topaz leaf]

and they also might make ashley not-a-major-pain-in-the-ass

which means I don't have to tell her to hide in the corner like the little b*tch she is any more

and that would hurt my soul

[hallow sphinx]

Who even thought of putting that icon there?

[topaz leaf]

that's one of the alternative uses for it

works quite well for it tbh

[hallow sphinx]

Absolutely does, and now I even have two so I can go akimbo

But I wonder who exactly put it there

[topaz leaf]

it's just...

when they said something along the lines of "re-envisioning"

I got a touch worried we'll lose some of what made RE4 really shine

ashley calling me a pervert when I'm technically looking up her skirt climbing a ladder

[eternal sleet]

I guess people can get the woot woot started from the wooting wrist rest 😂

[eternal sleet]

99% I'm feeling it's not going to be as cheesy for sure

[hallow sphinx]

First we clapping legends, then we clapping cheeks

[eternal sleet]

But I do hope they compensate for more horror/darky eerieness

[topaz leaf]

tbh, some of the models also look really tired today

they'll definitely be able to make all the enemies you fight a lot more...grotesque

Mendez comes to mind as one who could definitely make me a bed-wetter again

[normal stream]

LETS GOOOO

[mossy garnet]

Erik

Definitely Erik

[normal stream]

more than 7 months of waiting down to less than one day remaining

[mossy garnet]

Erik is the packaging designer.

and uh the reason is fleimis review text

[hallow sphinx]

My man Erik being kinky

[mossy garnet]

we all kinky

Cursed but.

Yeah

Jerone

sexy mf

[topaz leaf]

damn thems nice legs, Jeroen

12/10

[normal stream]

anyone with the lekker switches able to describe how the rapid trigger and high actuation point feels when playing valorant/osu?

[buoyant heart]

it feels like pressing the key

i hope u realize youre asking for a highly subjective metric

[normal stream]

well right now i use 2 mm actuation switches and ive used 1 mm before and the difference was huge like the board was reading my mind that's how quick the inputs felt

but ofc releasing a key takes longer since it has further to go

[buoyant heart]

well as u said urself thats what it felt like

u might reexperience this again with a lekker based keyboard

[normal stream]

yeah but rapid trigger + less than 1 mm actuation would probably be unreal

[buoyant heart]

especially since they dont have any keychording

[normal stream]

what's keychording?

[buoyant heart]

the keyboard splitting pressed keys into different polls

so if u press 12keys it might send 6 at one poll and the others at the next

like chords

[normal stream]

oh

how long does one chord take?

i mean poll

[topaz leaf]

depends on polling rate

[buoyant heart]

1ms

with the wooting

[normal stream]

ah i see

[topaz leaf]

tiny fractions of a second though

[buoyant heart]

but no chording

[topaz leaf]

wooting polls at 1k hz iirc

[buoyant heart]

so u get all keys u actually pressed every poll

at this point ur fingers might be more limiting than the keyboard

for rythm games

[normal stream]

yeah for sure

[topaz leaf]

replace with pusher connected to light sensors

[buoyant heart]

also might not recommend rapidtrigger for rythm games

[topaz leaf]

[buoyant heart]

at least with like .4 mm or less sensitivity

as ull be more likely to reactivate the key and get a miss

or 2

or 10

depends on if u have shaky hands or not really

lol

[normal stream]

yeah i will have to do a lot of experimenting

[buoyant heart]

correct

[normal stream]

which is great because you can find exactly what you like best

[buoyant heart]

so asking wont really give u much info

u will always have to experiment and find what suits u

[normal stream]

whats the actuation/bottom out force on lekker switches?

[buoyant heart]

and what feels right for you

[buoyant heart]

60cn bottom out

[normal stream]

and lekker switches are the main reason so many people like this board right

[buoyant heart]

actuation force depends on where ur actuation point is

[buoyant heart]

well more the features

[topaz leaf]

the switches are simply sliders embedded with magnets

[buoyant heart]

no doubt the switches feel good themselves

[normal stream]

like customization features?

[topaz leaf]

the PCB and firmware are the real magic

[buoyant heart]

but the features of the mcu are the real mvp

[buoyant heart]

yes

[topaz leaf]

and wootility being an actually usable program

[buoyant heart]

and that it all runs on the keyboard

no software required except for changing the settings

[topaz leaf]

no software required period

wootility web exists now

[buoyant heart]

requires chrome or edge

[normal stream]

how good is tachyon mode?

[buoyant heart]

good

[normal stream]

or is it more gimmicky

[buoyant heart]

well u will deffo notice that it activates at the slightest touch

and it feels rather direct to many people

its not a gimmick tho

it actually makes all keys be scanned at the same rate as the polls happen

unlike many other 1khz boards that add debounce etc

which can cause 20ms or more delay

[normal stream]

incredible

[buoyant heart]

and they arent done working on it so dw

[normal stream]

welp i hope it comes really soon cause i cant wait lmao

[buoyant heart]

ull most likely love it

[uncut light]

worth the wait

[buoyant heart]

like the broad response to any of the wootings basically was people like them

[normal stream]

my 60% has arrow keys so ill probably miss those but other than that i think everything will be an improvement

[buoyant heart]

for typing, playing games, making music as a midi controller, bashing in their siblings head

or just as a nice cutting board for bread like i use mine

[topaz leaf]

I use mine as a zakuski platter while I play games with my controller

👌

so yes, my wooting smells like pickles and cold cuts

[buoyant heart]

u call ur pp weird names bro

[normal stream]

Let’s gooooo

Can’t use it til later today tho

[autumn shore]

@normal stream when did you order the keyboard

[solid tinsel]

I call it Pink Lemonade

[umbral totem]

Game compatibility is the larger issue

[umbral totem]

I dig this theme.

[normal stream]

September or something

Whenever the preorders were

[marsh gull]

BRuh mine was suppose to come 3 days ago

[dark yarrow]

Let’s go just got my keyboard

Like 7min ago

Australia is now here

[solid tinsel]

[shy ridge]

putting on the strap was a pain i can't lie

[normal stream]

how does continuous rapid trigger work?

[vocal socket]

no idea but it seems useless. i think it's for input spammy games.

rapid trigger for just top-tier performance everything and analog input for racing games that allow dual input

analog input in FPS would be the fantasy, but that's a dream that only fortnite players can taste right now

[vague roost]

oh yeah well... i got FREE shipping

hold the applause

[normal stream]

i love the customization of this keyboard omg

[normal stream]

for real though what does continuous rapid trigger do?

[pastel prawn]

Can we please have a white version of the tray? Like exactly the same design as it is now, but in white? That would be so clean 😎

[normal stream]

the explanation doesn't make enough sense for my pea brain to comprehend 😦

[normal stream]

nvm figured it out, it just makes sense if you use a lower actuation point

[umbral totem]

Yes you got it

[mossy garnet]

The world wants pink!

!!!

@umbral totem i still never gave you the wrist rest rest. But I guess I'll have to make a few more because I only have one extra rn

[buoyant heart]

what if i want a wrist rest rest rest

[topaz leaf]

what if I want a wrist rest rest that I can use while using my wrist rest, anodised pink?

oh, and maybe a wall-mounted wrist rest rest rest for when I need to store away my wrist rest rest

[mossy garnet]

Can be made

You can wall mount this one

But I wouldn't recommend it

I don't like screws

Maybe glue

[topaz leaf]

glue is for sniffing

not securing things

that's what screws are for

with suitable pilot holes

[mossy garnet]

Enough holes

And I'd glue this

Yes not a lot of surface area but

Is not a heavy wrist rest

There's probably something like

[topaz leaf]

tbh

that with some double sided tape

probably plenty sufficient for a few hundred grams of wrist rest

no need to use valuable glue you could sniff instead :)

[mossy garnet]

But yeah these wist rest rests
I wonder how much animo there is

They're stainless steel now
But what if i got copper or brass xd (no)

I mean possible but will be expensive

[topaz leaf]

then it would be unaffordable and way too heavy

mainly the latter for the brass option tbh

[mossy garnet]

Not really

[topaz leaf]

no way glue or double sided tape would hold it up

[mossy garnet]

It's a stand

[topaz leaf]

and we're talking about wall mounting it, no?

[mossy garnet]

It's designed for standing up

You want to wall mount it but not me

[normal stream]

did you have any issues with tachyon mode or anything? when i used my custom cable it was randomly typing in tachyon mode.

[umbral totem]

We do not know exactly what aspect of custom cables might affect it yet, but could you let me know if it was also a coiled cable?
Then if you want to keep using your custom cable, you need to decrease your keyboard brightness. This will pull less volt from the cable and make it more stable.

We have the following theories:

1. Custom cables are not certified and can't keep constant voltage or voltage required by keyboard with brightness to the max. Voltage drops will cause the hall sensors to trigger.
2. The coiled cable is causing a strong electro magnet (EM) field due to it being coiled copper and slimly shielded, causing it to radiate a strong EM when pulling a lot of voltage (for the RGB backlight on max)

[normal stream]

well, if its useful to know, I had my rgb turned completely off and it was still bugging out

but i built my cable from a DIY kit online so it was probably really bad quality

[umbral totem]

Is it also coiled?

(For my record as you are third person that is custom cable related)

[normal stream]

yeah its coiled and the coiling is garbage lmao i did it myself with a heatgun but theres still like 15 turns in the coil just very sore on the eyes

i think the insulation on my cable is also extremely thin so it doesnt do a good job at blocking EMF

[buoyant heart]

well coiling also adds well a coil to the circuit

basically an air core inductor

and i realised that yesterday when it wad suggested to lower rgb brightness to make the small audio source go away from the keyboard

[sick sequoia]

Rip my coiled cable.

[hallow sphinx]

Pink Gang 🤘🏼

[hallow sphinx]

No issues for me, but I only use 100% brightness in my typing profile, my rapid profile is set to 50% brightness with tachyon on. Also my cable isn't coiled so I suppose I'm lucky

[celest bay]

so there should be a safe distance for coiled cables not to affect? or the length of the coil affects the distance?

in fact that would make me not buy a coiled cable, which is really good for my wallet 😄

[umbral totem]

Don't know for sure yet, but it's more likely that a custom cable in general is just poorly shielded and isn't up to par than that the coiled shape of the cable is emitting magnetic fields. The latter needs to be tested.

[celest bay]

I would have tested it if I had my wooting 60he

[rustic rain]

Lmao just ordered a coiled cable 15 mins ago

[idle yarrow]

I was looking at coiled cables and just saw this - guess its best to stay away.

Say I did want to change the cable to match the colour of my setup - am I okay using most USB C cables - I believe I need to be careful of length due to the RGB effects if I'm right??

[celest bay]

btw, what is the keycap profile? I couldn't find on wooting.io

I mean the stock PBT keycap profile

[umbral totem]

OEM profile

[hallow sphinx]

My cable is silver plated copper, with each conductor having its own plastic sleeving, no coils, and I'm having zero issues with it. My normal typing profile is at 100% brightness without tachyon, my rapid profile is 50% brightness with tachyon, and I'm not getting any weird behavior tbh

And it's does not look like there's really any EMI shielding on my cable 🤷🏼‍♂️

I suspect it might just be the combination of some cables being coiled and badly shielded maybe

[buoyant heart]

idk how long u wanted ur cable to be but 2m is fine

pretty sure the included ones are 1.8

[idle yarrow]

Thanks Tony, just looking for a Purple one and wanted to make sure. 1.8 is fine anyways but I was just checking 🙂

[buoyant heart]

just make sure its not coiled lol

or if its coiled that the wire is shielded as that should minimize the inductance if any even occurs then

[random dust]

Haha, the idea came from Kevin. Spank responsible,

[uncut light]

What case is this

[buoyant heart]

so give kevin some company paid spank sessions eith a pro

obviously kevin tried to tell you something

[hallow sphinx]

Should be tofu60, no?

[heady sphinx]

Someone here posted this(https://youtu.be/D9yI-YoRnGs), I'd say the difference of self-lubing vs stock lube is worth it. Their number row is stock so you can hear the difference better

@/ChrisP same discord @ as YT name

[celest bay]

sounds really creamy but couldn't here the number row

oh my bad sorry

yeah, sounds worth it

[uncut light]

above my budget

[hallow sphinx]

If you can afford the 60he, a tofu shouldn't be that far off I imagine :o

[next flare]

It's like 50% of what the 60he costs

[uncut light]

Ok, more i cant justify it atm

sound better? xD

[hallow sphinx]

Sure does

[next flare]

I'm trying to find ISO keycaps in some kind of earth tone. I have a walnut case right now which I think I'm going to put the 60he in. But I want something that matches that. Any recommendations? Please send in DM

[idle yarrow]

Depending on how much you want to spend - I found a nice Walnut set on Etsy - https://www.etsy.com/uk/listing/1039703936/wooden-keycap-solid-walnutnatural-wood?ga_order=most_relevant&ga_search_type=all&ga_view_type=gallery&ga_search_query=walnut+keycaps&ref=sc_gallery-1-1&frs=1&plkey=836b31d0f4b02cc1da27da423e17657508311176%3A1039703936

[hallow sphinx]

This + that oil you put on wood

[next flare]

That would look sick

Just like you said a little pricey

[hallow sphinx]

"a little pricey" goddamn that's alot

[next flare]

Makes me remember those porcelain keycaps. They where so crispy

[idle yarrow]

Yeah it is, I imagine that you could maybe find some cheaper but it would look sick AF, I also saw wooden ones with the legends on them

I wanted to get a set of those porcelains

[hallow sphinx]

Aren't those even less pricey than the wood ones?:D

[next flare]

Most likely. Just can't get over the sound of them

And I think they don't really look that nice

[hallow sphinx]

It's interesting, but nothing I would put on my main board for extended amounts of time

[idle yarrow]

I also really like these if that would go with the wood https://www.etsy.com/uk/listing/1168721581/coffee-shop-20-keycap-set-afsa-profile?click_key=e9b7c153acae0fea96033c67496b4dd1087cf45b%3A1168721581&click_sum=3111ea91&ga_order=most_relevant&ga_search_type=all&ga_view_type=gallery&ga_search_query=brown+keycaps&ref=sr_gallery-1-5&organic_search_click=1&frs=1

[next flare]

That's more in style I would say.

[idle yarrow]

Yeah I think I want Purple Taro keycaps - it’s my favourite colour and I like the two tones of purple throughout

[hallow sphinx]

Quick question, does anyone know some really nice looking KAT sets?
I love my DSA milkshakes but I would've gotten kat if I didn't miss the GB, and I'm still really interested in checking out that profile

[next flare]

Yeah they look really cool. The yellow I think looks a little bit out of place.

[idle yarrow]

Yeah it does a little, the set does come with the purple mod keys too if you don't want to use the yellow

[next flare]

I think this would also look nice with the wooden color

I thought that it was reasonably priced. Until shipping + taxes came 😢

[idle yarrow]

I think having all your mod keys (esc, ctrl etc) as wood would be clean and then finding a nice keycap for the centre could look good too.

[idle yarrow]

I don't know sorry 😦

[uncut light]

my biggest issue is also losing the dampeningf from the foam

[next flare]

Yeah though I found ones where you buy for like 3$ a keycap

[celest bay]

wait what what is this, where is this?

[next flare]

kbdfans

I believe it's called DOLCH ORANGE

[celest bay]

I just check it today didn't see it

thanks, will check again

[idle yarrow]

Amason - I'll DM you another set

dont want here to clog up with links

[next flare]

👍

[celest bay]

starts with row2 right? I mean the escape is in row2 size?

and can anybody tell me what is the size of the spacebar? 7u or 6.25u?

[pale yacht]

anyone in Italy received their order yet? mine departed from frankfurt over 40 hours ago and still didn't make it to "country of destination"
Batch EU-Gamma btw

[solid tinsel]

Tofu60 E-Pink

[hallow sphinx]

Silicone pour >>>> poron foam

Also I was a little disappointed with the density of the foam in the 60he, but I replaced all of it with silicone

[hallow sphinx]

Kat Cyberspace is YUMMY af too, but only available from international vendors

[idle yarrow]

I swear this discord is going to make me empty my bank account

[hallow sphinx]

Also it's a typical keyreative story from what I've heard, legends off center and such. Just not very nice QC

[hallow sphinx]

Mine is literally empty rn

[hollow steppe]

i believe it is 6.25u

[autumn parrot]

What kind of sense does that make? They are already agreed upon from the factory or not

[heady sphinx]

What?

[autumn parrot]

Nice, is This a tofu60 case ?

[topaz leaf]

they come prelubed from the factory
but factory lube is consistently pretty shit lol

it really is worth it to remove all the old stuff and do it yourself

[autumn parrot]

Ah okay thanks 🙂

[topaz leaf]

tbh, I would have wish the lekkers came bone dry so I could save some time and effort getting rid of the old stuff

but...then you'd get a worse stock experience which a majority would likely not bother to improve so....

[vapid prism]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O91DT1pR1ew

[vocal socket]

I admire you. I just smothered my 205g0 over the factory lube.

[vocal socket]

ma man. i m lookin at that too.

Or the blade in E-Yellow

[uncut light]

decided screw it

if i dont like it then its not much of a loss if at all

absolute bargain regardless of colour even if i use for afuture project

@tulip sage

it does look nice on your pics tbh

[umbral totem]

Wait, how is this so cheap lol

[uncut light]

They did a clearance

[umbral totem]

I believe we have that alu case in the office and used for the instruction video

Ahh

[uncut light]

https://kbdfans.com/products/customized-gh60-aluminum-case

i got from ali instead because of delivery

[umbral totem]

Wooting garage sales also coming soon D:

[uncut light]

with kdbfans via their site its $40 delivery

[sly hollow]

Ayo

How we doing

[umbral totem]

auch, but yeah, heavy piece of alu

[uncut light]

Well, 0get working on that pink first 😉

mod tap is a pita sometimes

xD

trying to make a face

[umbral totem]

Says free shipping from the aliexpress store

pita?

[uncut light]

Yes which is why i did it via the ali store and not the site

pain in the ass is pita

[umbral totem]

You should turn off rapid trigger on the Mod tap keys if you notice you often mispress them

That's what worked a wonder for me 👍

[uncut light]

i dont use rapit trigger

[sly hollow]

I can't wait for these caps bro 👀

[uncut light]

Check out #archived_wootility_lekker_feedback

[umbral totem]

I often repress of half press my right shift for different scenarios

[uncut light]

love mod tap a lot though

its so good

wish i had more slots though

[pine turtle]

maybe on the 60he it will get increased

[solid tinsel]

I was originally thinking of getting a Blade60 in pink but went with the Tofu because idk much about o-ring mounting at all or if it’s more difficult than normal

[next flare]

No idea more looking at the keycaps.

[tulip sage]

Can't do much wrong for the price anyway...
Btw. those blank keycaps are just kinda trash to be honest...
Spacebar is completly warped and some keys are twisted slightly, so they are slightly turned...

But i only got some pink key caps that i can spare and ye i'm not to sure if the board will stay like that lol

[umbral totem]

://blank keycaps? Or blank ones

[tulip sage]

Yes those ://blank caps

[tired cove]

@tulip sage yo what case is that, where did u buy it

[uncut light]

shit that looks nice

[tulip sage]

It's the KBDFANS Aluminium low profile, dirt cheap on aliexpress.
Paid like 23€ shipped to Germany via DHL.

Same Case that @uncut light ordered

[uncut light]

what caps?!?

[tired cove]

@tulip sage wooow thats a steal

[uncut light]

3 left

xD

[tired cove]

any link for UK

[uncut light]

sec

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005002186123166.html?spm=a2g0o.order_list.0.0.4db71802KR2oPw

cheaper if you sign up with a new email

[tired cove]

because everytime i go on ali express cant get anything in UJ

[uncut light]

its UK

Im in the UK

xD

[umbral totem]

Any defect, let us know and we can send over replacements.

To be fair these keycaps are not 100% up to our level, hence we don’t call them Wooting or have any logos on there.

[tired cove]

is there a black one?

[uncut light]

@tulip sageWhat caps?

[umbral totem]

But regardless you problem should not be the case

[uncut light]

I NEED TO KNOW

These mesh so well with the cyan

[tired cove]

yo fuk it cyan it is lol

[uncut light]

tbh i just got it as its a good way into alum

i was always tempted but putg off by price

[tulip sage]

Those are just the Corsair PBT ones...

[uncut light]

welp

i just like the colour

[rich dirge]

is this the lowest 60% case you've seen?

[uncut light]

the legends ared so bad

[uncut light]

price?

[rich dirge]

no

measurement

I assume you can unscrew those posts in the back to make it flat?

[uncut light]

yes

here

[rich dirge]

cool

[uncut light]

https://www.corsair.com/uk/en/Categories/Products/Accessories-|-Parts/Gaming/Gaming-Keyboards/PBT-DOUBLE-SHOT-PRO-Keycap-Mod-Kit/p/CH-9911070-NA

if the legends weren't so awful i would

https://kbdfans.com/collections/keycaps/products/cherry-profile-pbt-mac-compatibility-kit-9-keys

[rich dirge]

corsair and their gamer legends

[tired cove]

yoooo 14.20£ for that case lmao what a bargain

[uncut light]

i love this color

[tulip sage]

Ye i mean i would rather get my money back from those but i don't really want to deal with that 😄
I don't like the structure too... They feel so smooth, more like ABS Caps.

So even if i get a set that is flawless, i would not use them to be honest

[uncut light]

https://kbdfans.com/collections/clearance/products/60-resin-case-for-custom-mechanical-keyboard-1?variant=34439971176587

i was also tempted with these ngl

[tulip sage]

Ye the legends are not really my taste either... But find decent german iso keycaps that doesn't cost a lot

[rich dirge]

I was thinkin about the metal one a while back but never ordered it, I'll probably just use the keyboard as a module

[uncut light]

https://kbdfans.com/products/ic-mochi-keycaps?_pos=15&_sid=30e96d1d8&_ss=r

[rich dirge]

I need a new desk mat first

I only have a mousepad at the moment, haven't had a deskpad in a while

[tired cove]

@tulip sage what kind of foam or tape u used on that case?

[uncut light]

the onei in the 60he

but afaik not all could be used

can you share any pics or sound asamples?

[tired cove]

really i can use the stock one

[tulip sage]

I mean it looks kinda nice... We'll see if i try different caps.
@tired cove Well i used the lower foam part of the wooting case, the top part is just on there with double sided tape

[tired cove]

cool

that. case is sick

is it any heavy?

[uncut light]

damn it

i tried to send booty keycaps

discord didn't like that

[tired cove]

lol

[uncut light]

Perfect item for your 60he

https://mrpl.me/Ma6415b_rfU3.png

[tired cove]

@uncut light u think well get that case delivered in like a month?

[eternal sleet]

Now that’s culture

[uncut light]

kdbfans are fast

usually 1-2 weeks

[tired cove]

says 29july

[eternal sleet]

Are you ordering from AliExpress

[uncut light]

ive had ali items come in a weekl

[tired cove]

@eternal sleet ye

[uncut light]

its just an estimate

[tired cove]

daamn

[uncut light]

We have no choice.... on kdbfans its $40 delivery

[tired cove]

its waaay tooo cheap

its like the perfect case too

lol

[uncut light]

color is my only issue with it but it doesn't look to bad

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32834461480.html?spm=a2g0o.cart.0.0.30143c00Co4Ugw&mp=1

[tired cove]

yeaj same

[uncut light]

[tired cove]

wanted a black one but w/e

[uncut light]

gold since it looks pinkish

[tired cove]

eewww

[tulip sage]

So my case took exactly 2 weeks to arrive, from order to delivery.

[uncut light]

🤤

[tired cove]

says order in dispute, order processing wtf

[uncut light]

on ali?

[tired cove]

first time ordering from ali express coz always wasn't able to

yea

[uncut light]

just let it do its thing

ali is weird

[tired cove]

o ok it takes time i guess

[uncut light]

its just ebay

[brisk plover]

Varmilo Dyesubs are quite nice. I bought a used Varmilo for 80, kept the caps and sold it with other caps for 90

[uncut light]

Razer pinks are somewhat appealing ngl

[tired cove]

cool they still haven't taken money if my bank

il just wait fingers crossed

[uncut light]

ik group buys are suggested but like

cant be bothered dealing with them

i hear all sorts of bad things

[next flare]

For small companies group buys makes sense. But for larger companies group buys just becomes an hassle for consumers.

[uncut light]

for sure, but i just casnt be bothered... its like a never ending wait in a lot of cases

or terrible QC

Even wooting cant get perfect qc nvm someone in their livingroom

[tired cove]

order confirmed

https://c.tenor.com/hppcHIyK0kQAAAAM/oh-yeah-parks-and-recreation.gif

[uncut light]

https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=3521

This is what i want in terms of colours tbh

its the reason i started liking pink keebs

sadly varmilo dont have a 60% version either

so i cant just buy that

[tired cove]

@tulip sage i just realized it doesn't have any grippy feet, did u get those separate or?

[tulip sage]

It comes with 4 rubber grippy feet, for each corner + those 2 aluminium feet, which have rummer in them too

[uncut light]

im closed to justy buying the akko board i ahve but in 60% form

and reusing the case/caps

seems way easier, 60% is becoming less common it seems

[tired cove]

@tulip sage cool because on pic wasn't showing them

i had super hard time trying to find ISO keycaps for UK

shits a joke

in the end got corsair

[uncut light]

imagine using ISO

and thats me in the UK saying that.

[tired cove]

imagine using ansi yuck

[uncut light]

i just want cute pink keycaps and a case, is thtat to much to ask

[tulip sage]

@tired cove To be be honest the Corsair PBT Caps are actually really good...
They have a nice grippyt texture, are cheap and ye i like those, specially for the prioce

[tired cove]

yeah not bad @tulip sage

[dark yarrow]

Bro the keyboard is so fast I will be watching TikTok and have my finger resting on my keyboard it will just start typing on my old keyboard I had to bottom out my switches. Big upgrade and we’ll need thanks for the fast updates a great customer support wooting I got my keyboard in Australia in no time to thanks wooting.

[uncut light]

XDA PBT is bad right.

[tired cove]

i was gonna get XDA

but they a bit too tall

[oblique talon]

Finally had some time to set up the keyboard with my pc. Had only had a chance to use it with my laptop as I am currently moving (disregard the absolute state of my wiring and room) . But having used it for just a day now with my usual set-up; It feels absolutely amazing and I love it.

[normal stream]

same!

[normal stream]

im considering lubing all the switches but ive never even opened up a keyboard

the entire thing is a little intimidating

[topaz leaf]

you won't have to

get a switch puller

board is hotswap

switches are contactless so you can't actually make the switches non-functional with too much lube

the 60HE may literally be the perfect board to start keyboard modding

[normal stream]

oh damn thats awesome

i didnt even realize

thanks!

is it worth waiting for this wooting lube kit to be released or should i just get any generic kit?

i think calder talking about them releasing a lube kit soon in one of his videos if im not mistaken

[topaz leaf]

I don't know what's in the lube kit, so I can't say

[normal stream]

oh right

[topaz leaf]

wooting delivers good stuff for fair prices though, so I'm personally waiting

[normal stream]

cool

[tawny wharf]

just got mine and there's a pretty significant issue, when I press backspace the board rocks diagonally. anyone else have have this?

[eternal sleet]

Table?

Or your keyboard is warped some how, my table isn't even got a desk mat and fixed my issue

[tawny wharf]

ill try sending a video, give me a couple min

[normal stream]

seems like one of the feet is messed up

[pine turtle]

UFFFF

OMG

[normal stream]

flip it over and check the back

[pine turtle]

yeah check the feet

[topaz leaf]

send feet pics

of the keyboard

[pine turtle]

i swear to god that factory's QA

[eternal sleet]

[tawny wharf]

its hard to capture the right perspective of the feet but i can show that they do not sit flush

ill send pics

[uncut light]

@topaz leaf

buy it for me thanks

[tawny wharf]

at a glance they look even from the back and side

[eternal sleet]

Idk about you but it looks warped a bit to me

[tawny wharf]

this is the ok side

[topaz leaf]

...that's gotta be at least 100 quid after tax and shipping

[topaz leaf]

yikes

[tawny wharf]

this is the magical side

[autumn shore]

did someone pre-order the keyboard on November and got it

[eternal sleet]

If you have not got your keyboard yet everyone should double check if they got air freight

[tawny wharf]

is there a mod i could maybe dm about this?

[topaz leaf]

@uncut light

[uncut light]

11 to be exact

[topaz leaf]

earn your tofu, soyboi

[uncut light]

For this sort ofd thing if they are not correct you should contact us via email to sort out a replacement part.

I can see on the pictures there is a difference.

[royal hearth]

Hey there, as suggested, please sent an email to [e-mail] using the email address associated with your order.

Please include;
Name
Order Number
Description of the situation

Please give Wooting a couple of (business) days to respond

[tawny wharf]

gotcha, sorry i didnt mean to scare everyone in the server. ill proceed through email

[uncut light]

I dont think anyone will get scared, things slip through no matter how good QC is.

[pine turtle]

||i sort of did||

but im sure it will be fine

[uncut light]

Even so it will get resolved.

Calder is to much of a perfectionist....

Lekker keycaps alone took a year or so for a reason xD

[topaz leaf]

still came out pre-cracked

[uncut light]

Aye there was some issues with Lekker but getting to there was a long process.

There's just some things you cant fully control sadly.

[autumn shore]

did someone pre-order the keyboard on November and got it

[rich dirge]

my 60he is seemingly flawless

[sly hollow]

wait really LMAO

to be fair

these are the best linears to ever exist sooo

[sly hollow]

same with my 60he

[oblique talon]

I did

[autumn shore]

damn I didn’t get my keyboard

[oblique talon]

did you have air freight?

Otherwise you can expect it to arrive in the next couple of weeks. Also I live in the netherlands close to their EU+INTL warehouse, so I had it within days of it arriving there. If you live further away it can take a little while.

[crisp solar]

not the switches, the keycaps

[sly hollow]

Im going to be swapping my keycaps case and cable so im gucci

[marsh gull]

bruh my keyboard says its coming tomorrow when the warehouse is 10 minutes away from house

[autumn shore]

I payed for air freight but I live in the UAE so maybe I will get the keyboard in couple of days

[jagged surge]

@sly hollow which case will you be using? I'm eyeing up the blade so I can have a poor man's Fjell lol

[sly hollow]

honesty ill go for blade 60 also

[jagged surge]

I wish they still had the Lake Blue that color was gorgeous. Probably going to go with the purple instead

[sly hollow]

I'm going for black honesty

[jagged surge]

I asked KBDFans they said theres no plans to restock any colors

[sly hollow]

I sorta do have a black and bronze sorta set up going

or like

black bronze copper kinda look

[jagged surge]

Very classy i approve lol

[vocal socket]

Damn they only have Cyan. I sadly have a highly used board in that color =/

[umbral totem]

You might as well, I’ll also publish a video on how to lube

[umbral totem]

Could you try to see if the screws from the PCBA, accessible from the plate when removing the keycaps, were over tightened into the tray case

Generally we want to find root cause, then report to factory to correct and find out how to can slip QC

And we will of course get your fixed 🙂

[eternal sleet]

This may be important but I found it a pain to unscrew the top screws of the pcba (it ruined my screw bit after). Had to use something more beefy/thick plus there was paint on top of my screws which made it more difficult than the back screws

[buoyant heart]

i had 0 issues unscrewing them or damaging the paint of the screw

i used my trusty JIS 0 bit

[eternal sleet]

Def QC then

Mine were bad, idk if my keyboard even works, haven't plugged it in yet but it was so bad I hope it didn't damage the pcba

Ones underneath were a breeze compared to my top ones

Very noticeable

[tired cove]

can u link which double sided tape u used pls, my first time actually modding a keeb properly

[heady sphinx]

For those who have their 60HE in the US, did UPS handover the package to USPS the same day as delivery or a day before?

[rich dirge]

if ups is handing off to usps then it's surepost

the usps side will handle it as regular mail, but the handoff process can take a long time

large queue

[hallow sphinx]

Anyone here done a tape mod on the 60he ? I got some scotch 33+ laying around here that I've only used to fix my loose keycaps, but I might aswell tape mod if it's worth it

[eternal sleet]

Tape mod or tempest mod ruins the sound of the switch if you are into that kind of thing, also makes your keyboard sound way more Poppy. Foam is preferred to be substantial, It also wouldn't hurt to try if you haven't before, Just another preference imo. For me I've done Tape mod once and I never want to do it again

[hallow sphinx]

Poppy sounds pretty cool to be honest, and kinda fits my build theme I guess. I'll have to open the board up at least once more anyways to fix my stab rattle (which I might just try with stab shrinks cause by God I despise holee modding, especially having to clean off the XHT BDZ from my stabs so the tape sticks)
So thanks for your take, sounds pretty cool to me

[eternal sleet]

I did two layers by the way

[hallow sphinx]

Also if anyone is searching for good plate mounted stabs, asceny stabs are really good. Tried durock smokey blacks on my w1, and they're pretty good, but ascenys have such tight tolerances it's amazing. Taking them out is kind of hassle because of how tight they sit

[hallow sphinx]

Will probably try exactly that

[eternal sleet]

Thank you for this

If they are tight I might just roll with zeal

I like to stab mod so tight fit is no bueno for me

[hallow sphinx]

Yeah I had to pull off the plate to jam the stabs back out from the underside, they're really THAT tightv

[eternal sleet]

Dang

[hallow sphinx]

But I think the 60he got their tolerances down pretty good cause I had to do the same for the lekker switches

[eternal sleet]

Did you holee mod?

[hallow sphinx]

Not thus far

Only my w1 is hole modded

[eternal sleet]

O dang

[hallow sphinx]

But it's fabric tape, and pretty thick so kinda mushy

[eternal sleet]

Ah ok

Yeah I just wrapped 3M tape on mine and they're very nice

[hallow sphinx]

Might try scotch 33 next time around, I'm giving away my decked out w1 to a friend whose blackwidow is.. let's call it's battle scarred

[eternal sleet]

You're a good friend

[hollow steppe]

xda is one of the shortest profiles

[hallow sphinx]

Like half his space bar is missing

[eternal sleet]

[hallow sphinx]

And the costar stabilizer apparently went off to a better life cause I couldn't find it anywhere

[hallow sphinx]

DSA is shorter I think, but the keycap dish is smaller which some people don't like

[hallow sphinx]

HE'S a good friend, he let me live in his room for half a year when I had some serious beef with my mom a few years back

[eternal sleet]

Very nice and kind gesture, I'm sure your friend will like the keeb

[hollow steppe]

right, but they were saying they were too tall

[eternal sleet]

Currently trying to bet on a plate

[hallow sphinx]

He sure will, I just told him to treat it better than the blackwidow cause I've poured about 25 hours of modding time into that board

[eternal sleet]

Sheeeeesh

25?!

[hallow sphinx]

First time lubing and filming switches , which took a while

[eternal sleet]

Me 6 hours maximum

[hallow sphinx]

Also did it with silicone grease first, then removed and went 205g0

[eternal sleet]

Like if I can't lube switches within 6

Screw it

[hollow steppe]

i was thinking about going with the blade but i dont like the asymmetrical design

[hallow sphinx]

Lubing flaretechs is a chore tho lemme tell you

Like lubing consistently without fucking up the optical components

[eternal sleet]

I can't dedicate 25 hours to a keeb, I just can't, very impressive

[hallow sphinx]

Well I didn't think I could either, but when you fuck up your keeb after the first mod, you kinda have to fix it

[eternal sleet]

Loool

Did you over lube or

[tired cove]

i got them mixed up with SA

[hallow sphinx]

You mean carpal caps?

[hollow steppe]

yeah they look similar, i get them mixed up too lol

[tired cove]

lol

i really like both of them like the way they look

[hollow steppe]

xda are really nice in my opinion

i ordered a set of sa keycaps because i like the look and the sound of them

[hallow sphinx]

Sa looks really good yeah, kinda menacing
But I had my wrist broken once so they're a no go for me

[hallow sphinx]

My god I wish the blade60 came in this color

[hollow steppe]

yeah that cream color is really nice

[hallow sphinx]

Anyone know a guy with an e coating rig maybe?

[eternal sleet]

Urr nachos customs?

[hallow sphinx]

Like actually? Or does he just do spray paint?

[jagged surge]

@hallow sphinx I'm actually proud to say I was one of the people who encouraged Nacho to start Cerakoting. He can do any color at this point. There is also a few guys in the EU who do it

[hallow sphinx]

That's awesome! Would you be so kind to name a few places I can try in the EU? If I could skip US customs that would be amazing

[jagged surge]

@hallow sphinx
https://twitter.com/dovacustoms/status/1392832196868771843?t=ulV_yWqOAZc4HG_Tb_S7Zg&s=19

Dovacustoms (@dovacustoms)

Price List. 👇🏻

Twitter · May 13, 2021, 1:20 PM

Dova does phenomenal work and he's UK based

[hallow sphinx]

Will check hin out, thanks !

[uncut light]

Linky

Oh

[hallow sphinx]

Although UK tax is also gonna suck, not nearly to the same degree as US tho

[uncut light]

Don't understand how this works

You send them your item?

[jagged surge]

You can do that or send them the $ and they buy it, customize it, then ship it back

[hallow sphinx]

Just noticed his last tweet is from August last year, and it's about him stopping taking commissions :(

[jagged surge]

Of course that's not the tweet that pulled up when I searched him... my bad man.

[hallow sphinx]

Any other place besides nacho you know of ?

[uncut light]

I just wouldn't mind my alu plate being changed colour lol

[jagged surge]

In the EU the only other one I know of is https://www.reddit.com/u/rec0nkill?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share

Cryo and Nacho are the other 2 and they're both I'm Cali now

[hallow sphinx]

You appear like a back alley dealer who always knows a guy who's got exactly what you need

I appreciate it!

[jagged surge]

Lol no problem I just started talking to alot of those guys to learn how to paint my own. I would honestly try to do the same as them if my job and kids weren't such a handful right now

[hollow gyro]

Lets goo

[carmine shale]

Finally

[uncut light]

Enjoy!

[hollow steppe]

i think resin cases look really nice for the price

and it has a deeper sound profile like plastic cases which i prefer

[hollow steppe]

will the wooting 60 pcb fit in the 5 degree case by kbdfans?

[topaz leaf]

is that case DZ60 compatible?

[hollow steppe]

yes

[topaz leaf]

there you go

answered your own question

👏

[hollow steppe]

oh

thank you :)

[celest bay]

I saw that one too, but couldn't find it in aliexpress store, am i missing it, or is it not available in ali?

[hollow steppe]

the 5 degree case?

[celest bay]

yeah

they look really good

[hollow steppe]

https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=7156

this also has free shipping

[celest bay]

the resin one though

[hollow steppe]

oh

thats a different case

https://kbdfans.com/products/60-resin-case-for-custom-mechanical-keyboard-1

onyl 30 dollars here

[uncut light]

Ye

I was tempted myself

[topaz leaf]

OMG IT COMES IN BLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[hollow steppe]

yes

i think im just gonna get the tofu60

very clean case

[celest bay]

tbh I really like the wooting 60he case 😄

[uncut light]

I like it

Just not the colour

Hehe

[topaz leaf]

yeah

if only it came in blue

[celest bay]

I will try to change the strap to orange and color is fine for me too

[topaz leaf]

and was anodised aluminium

[hollow steppe]

ended up getting this case

[gilded void]

So, hitting del or F1 if you want to get into the BIOS and only have a 60HE connected, anyone?

[gilded void]

Also, how do I get a role if my discord is already linked but nothing has happened 🙂

[umbral totem]

FN + 1 will still get your F1

[gilded void]

Hmm interesting, I wasn't having any luck at all, was only annoying because I had just changed the CPU so had to get into it! I'll give it another go next time I reboot - thanks

[hallow sphinx]

Good choice, I wish the blade came in a few more colors tho. White's too basic for my liking and none of the other colors really match my keycaps

[hollow steppe]

understandable

im going for an all black keyboard so this works fine for me

tofu60 is a really nice case if you're interested in that

[eternal sleet]

Loool

[normal stream]

i think this board has a "break in" period

im using it for about a week now and it sounds even better

[autumn parrot]

its a tofu60 case ?

[sly hollow]

Nope it's a blade 60

[eternal sleet]

I personally think the blade looks better but I’m not done modding mine yet

[hollow steppe]

this looks super clean man :o

are you planning on getting different keycaps

[sick sequoia]

I'm getting my lube stuff this week and keyboard next week.

Gonna put it all in my Fjell R5 if it fits

Will probably be endgame for a while.

[sly hollow]

I probably going to use Tofu for the simple clean look

[random dust]

Awesome case could you make some side view pics for me 🤘

[hollow steppe]

^^ I would also like to see the side profile

[celest bay]

original case would have fit your monitor better it seems 😄

[pale yacht]

i'm in love

[hallow sphinx]

Put the strap on it!!

[uncut light]

That's what she said

[hallow sphinx]

Les fucken go

[hallow sphinx]

Lucky man you are, the fjell is awesome

[sick sequoia]

Just hope it fits 😂

[hallow sphinx]

Why wouldn't it? Looks like standard gh60 layout to me, plus being able to remove the two middle posts (wish my 5° didn't have those)

[sick sequoia]

Yes, I can remove them.

[hallow sphinx]

Oh man I just wish I was already into keyboards when the Sirius 60 came out

Custom plate with standoffs and voila, would be my personal 60HE endgame

[rustic rain]

yo which films did you use?

[hallow sphinx]

Damn I want to know too, my deskeys films didn't fit because the Lekker sliders are wider than normal

[rustic rain]

That's unfortunate, do you maybe know which one would fit the lekker switches?

[hallow sphinx]

As far as I was concerned, none should fit. The only switch I know of that is that wide is the Lekker, so I thought we were doomed unless wooting decides to make their own films

In case that happens, silicone switch films please 🥺

[hollow steppe]

that case is really expensive damn

[hallow sphinx]

It is, but also really unique. I don't know of any other acetal/pom 60% cases out there

[hollow steppe]

its plastic?

[hallow sphinx]

.. yeah, its plastic xd

[hollow steppe]

i like heavier cases personally

makes it feel more premium and high quality

[hallow sphinx]

Me too, but we have these machines at work we use to apply screen protectors to phones, and the frames you put the phone into are made of acetal

And I've long become obsessed with this material

It feels so nice

Some water blocks for PC cooling are also made of acetal, it's just a really really nice plastic imo

[autumn crane]

its a top mount case, i dont think it would work

[hollow steppe]

I do like the sound signature of plastic cases though

[hallow sphinx]

Like I said, you would need a custom plate. Just the standard 60HE plate with the top mount tabs

[hollow steppe]

i got the blade60 specifically because it's really heavy lol

[autumn crane]

case swapped into a FreeBird 60 (excuse the picture quality and gunk on the board)

[hollow steppe]

its like 2.5 pounds

[hollow steppe]

what color are the keycaps?

[hallow sphinx]

Build looks very nice

The orange one in the back thooooo

[autumn crane]

the alphas are KFA navy and the mods are just ones I wasnt using from PBT Spark

[hollow steppe]

that case is very clean. it looks like a tofu60 but better

[autumn crane]

I think thats basically what the idea is. It's pretty affordable and meant to be o-ring burger mounted without having to drill standoffs etc

[hollow steppe]

why does the case look multicolored in that first pic?

lighting?

[autumn crane]

I think thats sunlight coming through a screen door

[hollow steppe]

ohhh i see

does anyone know how much the case of the wooting 60he weighs by itself?

[hallow sphinx]

I can weigh it when I get home, but I suspect someone else might beat me to it

[autumn crane]

The one piece of advice I have for anyone looking to swap cases, and especially mess with mounting styles, is that the standoffs between the PCB and the Plate are basically essential. I know its a common thing to not use those standoffs on a lot of boards, but the switches attach to the PCB with just two plastic legs and they will come apart instantly

[hollow steppe]

okay thank you :)

[hollow steppe]

so, the blade60 has o ring mounting. would that affect anything?

im sorta new to all this

[hallow sphinx]

Blade60 is just standard gh60 without middle posts

And the posts are mounted with o ring on both sides

[hallow sphinx]

No worries!

[hollow steppe]

but i wouldn't need to mess with the plate or pcb to mount it, right?

[autumn crane]

yes, as long as it has the tray mount posts itll be fine, though possibly redundant, because any "flex" is negated by the PCB standoffs

[hallow sphinx]

You could pretty much take the 60he sandwich out of the case and mount it in the blade with less screws and you're golden

Just don't overtighten the screws because it'll make the o rings useless

[autumn crane]

yeah you really just need to remove like 5 keycaps and move the whole thing over in one go

[hallow sphinx]

Custom plate with just 4 standoffs in the corners would be awesome

[hollow steppe]

would any plate work with the pcb? as long as its 60%

and the correct layout

[hallow sphinx]

No, you need the standoffs

Most plates don't have standoffs (although some do)

[hollow steppe]

so i'd be stuck with the steel plate it comes with?

[hallow sphinx]

Yeah pretty much

Also the plate needs to be for plate mounted stabilizers , combined with the standoff requirement that limits your options (as in I haven't found any compatible plate so far)

[hollow steppe]

what if you could attach standoffs to the plate?

[hallow sphinx]

Well in that case you just need some M2 standoff in the correct height (don't know exactly but I think it was around 3-3.5mm)

[supple basin]

Aren't the plate files on github

[hollow steppe]

that would work though right?

[hallow sphinx]

Like actually? Is there any link for that ?

[hallow sphinx]

Yes

[supple basin]

https://github.com/WootingKb/wooting-design/tree/main/wooting-two-he

[hollow steppe]

thats a different board

[supple basin]

Ah then disregard

[hollow steppe]

thank you for trying to help though

[gloomy pulsar]

Looks like 60HE design files haven't been posted yet

I don't think it's waiting on anything now that the first keyboards have delivered, I'll send a reminder

[autumn crane]

basically you need standoffs corresponding to the gold circles on on the plate

didnt mean to reply to you whoops

[hollow steppe]

you cant just use 4 standoffs in the corners?

or do you have to do all of them

[autumn crane]

you mean like the ones on the blade?

[hallow sphinx]

That's what I mean by the four in the corners

[hollow steppe]

yeah

would that work?

[autumn crane]

no, they serve a different purpose\

[hallow sphinx]

Okay I think were mixing up standoffs here

The holes marked yellow (except for the two open slots left and right of the board) are for securing PCB and plate together

[autumn crane]

those 4 on the blade case are for securing the PCB/plate to the case. The ones that are in the picture are for securing the PCB to the plate. @hallow sphinx is talking about the latter

[hallow sphinx]

Way more efficient than I would have said it

[autumn crane]

I'll give it a shot right now and see if it works with just those 4

[hollow steppe]

so just to confirm (im sorry) but the blade60 WILL work with this keyboard?

[hallow sphinx]

Yeah, absolutely will work

[hollow steppe]

okay cool

[sly hollow]

Yeah it looks pretty cool

I think someone already did here, you just have to find the pic in the channel

[hallow sphinx]

This

[hollow steppe]

@ripe prawn can you show the side profile please :D

[ripe prawn]

Hey Ryan, I posted yesterday my Blade 60. The beauty of their decision to use the universal mounting posts means it literally take <5 minutes to drop the module (PCB/Plate) into the case. Just four mounting posts. The screw sizes are the same too, I double checked. You can use either the screws that come with the Blade or just reuse the stock ones from the 60HE. Feel free to hit me up if you have any questions.

[sly hollow]

I would like to get a freebird60 but

it's on preorder

but if I get tofu or blade 60

gonna have to wait due to kdbfans

😭

[hallow sphinx]

AliExpress store has 15day shipping I think, not to bad tbh

[hollow steppe]

okay, thank you very much <3

[autumn crane]

ok so I have tried with just the corner 4 standoffs and it works fine actually

[hollow steppe]

are you talking about the standoffs between the pcb and plate?

[autumn crane]

yup

[hollow steppe]

is there more flex?

[hallow sphinx]

Any noticeable difference in board flex?

[hollow steppe]

jinx :D

[autumn crane]

yes, but more importantly imo it's a lot less pingy. makes a world of difference in the sound

[hollow steppe]

ooo

very monumental discovery we have made :o

was it hard the remove the other standoffs?

[autumn crane]

no, you literally remove 4 screws

[hollow steppe]

okay cool

thank you :)

[autumn crane]

one thing to note

these are two "posts" that are basically non-removeable standoffs. Im not sure how important they are @hallow sphinx but a custom plate may have to account for this

[hollow steppe]

since the two non-removable ones are on one side, does that make the flex feel inconsistent across the board?

[autumn crane]

no. I mean there isn't a ton of flex anyway, its just a bit of a softer feel than before. Its still a steel plate and a tray mount at the end of the day.

[hallow sphinx]

Considering the posts literally just stick into the PCB and don't really provide much resistance from pulling the assembly apart, I suspect they might've only been there for alignment reasons
Thanks for trying without all the standoffs btw, that's probably something I'm gonna be doing soon then

[hollow steppe]

omg this is so clean

i love it

[hallow sphinx]

Absolute unit

[hollow steppe]

@ripe prawn do you know how much it weighs total?

[ripe prawn]

Sorry man, I don't have a small scale for that kind of thing or have other hobbies that require me to weigh out small amounts on a table say. But I will say between the Blade aluminum case (website states 1130g) and the steel plate, it's probably on the heftier side of what you can do with a 60 layout.

[random dust]

ty ty

[hollow steppe]

so im assuming around 1500g total probably if you include switches and keycaps

[hallow sphinx]

I got a 5°, completely built with a silicone dampener (weight) it come out at 1350g

And I think the blade is quite a bit heavier than the 5^

[ripe prawn]

Unless you can find a custom 60 with this tray mount that also has a brass or steel plate option.

Yeah, I chose the Blade over a Tofu because it's significantly more volume of milled aluminium

[hollow steppe]

@ripe prawn thats exactly why i chose it too lol

[hallow sphinx]

Just say it, you guys just want all the aluminum for yourself, greedy

[ripe prawn]

I may throw a Killmat replacement for the case foam, which also adds quite a bit. Kinda just deadens the acoustics though, so +/-

[hallow sphinx]

(try a silicone pour, it's really really good and incredibly satisfying to have a dampener fill out your case so perfectly)

[hollow steppe]

did you custom make yours? @hallow sphinx

[hallow sphinx]

Yeah, literally took the cheapest silicone mold mixture from Amazon that had prime shipping

[umbral totem]

A compatibility list, if you have confirmed a case not in here, let me know:

1. Brand
2. Model
3. Link to case

https://wooting-technologies.notion.site/de7a52e2b5a941258a17e448b0c9d9b0?v=5ec0b31c59db4a51b8a86a1288249e9f

[hallow sphinx]

You just have to prop up one side of the case so it's perfectly level

And tape over all the holes in the case

[hollow steppe]

https://www.amazon.com/Silicone-Turquoise-Platinum-Casting-Molds-1/dp/B08ZJFNDLS/ref=sr_1_8?crid=2XLPZCTYF6KW&keywords=silicone%2Bmold%2Bmaking%2Bkit&qid=1656690731&sprefix=silicone%2Bmold%2Caps%2C91&sr=8-8&th=1

would this work?

[umbral totem]

These are for alignment of the plate with pcba

[hallow sphinx]

I think so yes

https://youtu.be/EEISslcF-Jk

[hollow steppe]

7 oz is enough?

[hallow sphinx]

You just have to watch out not to make the dampener too thick, because the components on the underside of the PCB might interfere if the dampener is too thick

[hollow steppe]

how do you know how high you need to make it then?

just dont go above the standoffs?

[hallow sphinx]

My brain is hardwired exclusively in metric, also I don't really know how much I used. Stuff is cheap enough that it didn't bother me wasting some of it, just make sure to dispose of waster after it's dry, those silicone mixtures get everywhere and aren't water soluble (poured some in my drain and had to use a lot of citric acid cleaner to get it off, it's oily and sticky and really persistent)

[hallow sphinx]

Definitely don't, I left around a millimeter of height between the dampener and the top of the post

[hollow steppe]

okay okay

[hallow sphinx]

But you might wanna do 2mm actually, I underestimated how thick the chips on the PCB were

[autumn crane]

yeah i figured as much after playing with it for a little bit - thanks for confirming

[ripe prawn]

I like to be able to swap out foams or other materials here and there, so I've not yet tried the pour yet, but seems like a cool idea to try.

It's a fine balance in removing the space entirely with something like silicone versus trying to use the empty space between the case and PCB to tune either the sound and/or flex

In this case, I just don't think it's possible to have that much flex with this kind of build. My opinion is the whole o-ring tray mount gimmick of the Blade is a pretty generous interpretation of it. It's not actually o-rings - they're basically these small foam stickers - the best you can do is not overtighten to get at least marginal benefit in flex/dampening from the "o-ring" mount.

The biggest benefit to the Blade are the higher standoffs that you can leverage for some mid board flex. I've rocked a PC plate with the KBDFans DZ60 and was able to get some moderate flex. You're just not gonna get that with a steel plate.

[hallow sphinx]

The silicone mold removes without any issue, it doesn't stick to the case.
I don't know about wooden cases, but from what I've read, metal and plastic cases don't stick to the silicone once it's set

[ripe prawn]

FYI, for anyone concerned, the design/tolerance of the USB-C port on the PCB with the Blade (and I'd imagine Tofu) is fantastic. Without a daughter board design, what little flex you can get does not seem to put any stress on the USB-C connector.

At rest and with maximum pressure/flex

[hollow steppe]

thats awesome

[buoyant heart]

well

until it breaks off

[hollow steppe]

are you planning on getting different keycpas for your board or are you keeping the stock ones

[ripe prawn]

Lol, yes, that's the ultimate test. But it looks like the window cut out of the case is generous enough not to put pressure on the USB-C unit even with max pressure. Honestly, with this case/plate, module does NOT move in the case with normal use.

[buoyant heart]

personally id just file down the bottom of the cutout like half a millimeter or smth

just to make sure the plug actually doesnt bend it

[ripe prawn]

I don't want to mess with the anodized or coated finish, even if it's just a minimal part that you'll never see

Honestly, this thing does not move

[buoyant heart]

u havent seen me use my kbds

https://tenor.com/view/valet-dancing-skipping-irish-jig-dancing-valet-gif-17655242

me using my kbd

obviously i step dance on it

[hallow sphinx]

Hold up, are you one of my cats by any chance ?

[buoyant heart]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-running-away-escape-getaway-bye-gif-16631286

[ripe prawn]

These are pretty good as far as double shot PBT goes. North facing actually takes advantage of the shine through. I may put on a GMK set. Or try the Cerakey ones that are on their way. But as a gaming board, these PBT caps do the job.

[hollow steppe]

ahh okay okay. i ordered a set of wob sa keycaps

you think sa would be too tall with the blade60?

[ripe prawn]

Nah, probably better sound profile if anything. The blade is only minimally taller than the OG case. You'll want a good wrist rest if you're gonna do SA on a Blade. The Wooting 60 rest fits great for me. (No free ads)

[hollow steppe]

i dont like how deep the wooting wrist rest is tho :/

i'll probably just get a resin or wood wrist rest in the future

[umbral totem]

Should be fine, that generally why these port holes are made larger

[umbral totem]

We do it so there’s no chance of the edge hitting against your wrist’s carpal tunnel

[hollow steppe]

no yeah I'm sure it's comfortable and ergonomic just not my style aesthetically

[ripe prawn]

I’d argue the wrist rest is the most ergonomically important part of the keyboard set up. When you get into the custom keyboard space, let’s be honest, a lot of this is just hot aesthetic nonsense at the cost of ergonomics. The Wooting wrist rest is the most comfortable thing I’ve found, but definitely prioritizing comfort. I’m getting older now. So these things matter.

[celest bay]

agreed, I was just holding and twisting my wrist while reading that 😄

[ripe prawn]

Never know how old the demo for hot gaming keyboards are, but I can say as an almost 40 year old physician who sees a ton of carpal tunnel cases, ergonomics is key. Custom keyboards are even worse, as it's non-aesthetic to have adjustable feet. Spending too much time in front of the computer, and then trying to get a few hours of gaming in after work -- if I'm gonna go through building an aesthetically optimized board, you gotta find ways to take care of those hands/wrists!

[buoyant heart]

i increase my carpel tunnel chances daily

sitting in weird angles

having super high angles on my keeb

repeating the same motion over and over and over

[ripe prawn]

@umbral totem maybe Alice layout next???

[buoyant heart]

yikes ergo crap

[idle yarrow]

Im one of these people who use my Kb almost vertical, was something I started doing when PC gaming and can't get used to a normal orientation

Angle for reference

[buoyant heart]

oh i was talking about a different angle

i mean the angle u adjust with feet

just

like 90degrees

that way laying your forearms on the desk and type is a real experience

[idle yarrow]

Ahhhh I misunderstood

[buoyant heart]

but good idea

combine both for an even better experience

[ripe prawn]

I'm kidding. I took that overboard. There's no market for that. Too much wasted right sided footprint on an Alice, particularly for mouse+key gaming. I wouldn't even go for it. 60 is perfect.

[buoyant heart]

i uh

i would never use smth less than a fullsize

way too small

[ripe prawn]

65 is probably optimal. But to each their own. Remapping and layers makes up for anything found wanting.

[buoyant heart]

no

[hollow steppe]

i personally dont like the look of 65

it looks too long for me

[idle yarrow]

Yeah mod tap is a lifesaver, I’ve never went less than a TKL before but I can’t see myself going anywhere else other than 60 now

[hollow steppe]

i like the 75% layout of the gmmk pro

[pine turtle]

once i learned you can remap the shift+ctrl+fn+menu to arrow keys

i no longer need a 65

i never use those keys and right alt can be the FN key

[ripe prawn]

I remap some other keys to the right cluster on a 65 layout for work purposes

I use a GMMK Pro at work, and find it's way too many unused keys.

Print Screen lol

[buoyant heart]

i want those over 100% layouts

[hollow steppe]

@ripe prawn aesthetically tho, it looks super clean

[ripe prawn]

Yeah, I mean, I enjoy it and own one, but my own use/opinion has found it to be extraneous

It's a spectrum though right? Some would say a 40 ortho looks cleanest and I would rather use the stock Dell keyboard than one of those.

[buoyant heart]

no this would look the cleanest

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBV0piKtNjI

[ripe prawn]

Love it

[idle yarrow]

I used mod tap and my function key is right arrow but hold is FN1 layer

[ripe prawn]

Sorry for all the mod spam, I know not everyone cares for it, but last thing I've found

If you want to film, TX films are a bit more generous and forgiving than the goated Deskeys, but still not perfect; it'll work though if you really want to do it

And you can get a closer color match if you care for that

[eternal sleet]

Tyty just received my pack today and haven't been able to try so thank you very much

[heady sphinx]

Anyone know if I could move my 60he into my old Ducky Mecha mini case?

[normal stream]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PsRcYxZgBCo

[vivid tusk]

Which pad is this if you don't mind my asking/pinging you

[hallow sphinx]

It's the shogun from mousepad company's masterpiece collection

[vivid tusk]

Thanks so much! I'll have to give it a look. I used to use a skypad for years but then I got the eSports one and I think I prefer glass skates on cloth pads in general now

[hallow sphinx]

Really nice pad, has awesome glide (especially with the glass feet I got on my mouse) and apparently is pretty resistant to spills too :D

But beware, shipping is rough outside the us

[vivid tusk]

eSports tiger one with the blue lion but just not big enough and I need a full deskoad because I move my keyboard and mouse a lot depending on if I'm typing or gaming

[hallow sphinx]

Pad was 60$ and I paid another 35 for shipping

[vivid tusk]

Now I'm using cordura and idk. It's smooth but I think for this kind of speed I'd just use the skypad

[vivid tusk]

Ooooofff yea mousepad that big and heavy I can see that shipping cost

[autumn parrot]

Does anyone know if the height of the Wooting wrist rest still fits when using the Tofu60 case?

[umbral totem]

20mm or 2cm on the keyboard side of the wrist rest. Check the case height on same side and you can see if it perfectly matches the case.

Otherwise, the wrist rest is made for all mechanical keyboard so it’s really just aesthetics

[hallow sphinx]

I think the tofu and the 5° are very similar height overall, just the shape is different and I think the tofu is 6 or 7° typing angle, and my 5° fits really well with the wooting wrist rest

If that helps at all :D

[plain lynx]

Ok I think that remapping my capslock to function and then using modtap to activate capslock on it was a stroke of genius