#Wootility v5.1.0-beta.0 Feedback
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Wootility v5.1.0-beta.0 Feedback



where the knob support?

You like burning your eyes? 😜
light theme bad
typo in the first bullet point of changelog?
Yes 
Gimme 
colour > color
Wait, there's been a 5.0.5 version?
yes, this one has more on top of 5.0.5
5.0.5 launched a few hours ago 😛
Oh okay I've been at work so haven't seen it
we wanted to play it safe and release these ones as beta because of the mentioned under the hood changes
I just know that when I went to bed there was only 5.0.4 hence the confusion 😄

that animation preview in-app looks cool

Wait wait....background process?!?!
Does that mean y'all are working towards macros?
Been waiting for this a long time
first.... :)
Something in my primal monkey brain loves seeing the firmware update progress bar on the LED indicator 
im late to the party :(
For some reason my rapid trigger settings reset when I updated
yay
hes right tho and you know it 😭
.....TIME FOR ME TO GET AN 80HE THEN!!!
me2 xD
would be nice to get more details on this, that's not really expected
Hey, I can not update the keyboard firmware. The program succesfully updated, but the keyboards fails everytime, the program just tells me to unplug and plug it in again, but the update will just fail one more time.
How did u do that?
if you are on latest beta firmware and wootility it should just work ™️
which keyboard?
Wooting 80HE
I am now on the latest firmware
what keyboard?
you have some rgb effects enabled?
When can my 80HE Produce BigMacs for me?
I paid for that
this one? looks like spiral
my screen recording is with spiral, yes
do you get any specific error?
I have same with a wooting 60 HE
kk thanks guys ❤️
@chilly tapir @earnest wadi are you on Desktop or web?
web
which browser?
Wootility has a desktop App? I thought web only
Chrome
Nothing specific, only a "An error occured while completing the update". I am using the latest beta of the Windows program.
yes
I'm still waiting for the software on ps5 
Good to know, but i think i stay with the Web App - or does is have any features that web doesnt have?
web>>>
what about background service that will be provided in future?
it's good it works
it will work while using web app too?
Yes
okay, nice
@simple dust I tried to update from the beta web too, it just gave me the same error and crashed my Chrome 😄
Question I have, are all users going to be forced to run Wootility in the background for the Background Services?
definitely not, it's optional
all I care about cause I dont need any of those features and enjoy not needing something running in the background
Opt in, correct?
unsure why that would happen, feel free to DM me your logs and I can take a look
I will, thank you 🙂
Opt in, yes. Of course, we will have certain features that require it to be running, but you won't ever lose anything that is possible without it
👀 👀
Glad both groups got what they wanted, you guys are amazing 
@night elm, have you made a build of this latest firmware that incorporates your test key bounce filtering?
It's included now 
is this safe for the two he avr?
Depends what you mean by safe
was it tested
k then i ll wait
last time it did. was pain in the ass
Never had a problem with any beta, others do, avoid if you feel it will give you problems
believe me, it was a pain in the ass for us too 
We've taken steps that will prevent it from happening again
and yes, I've tested it on my 2he avr
thanks
I just got my first working the other day so these updates I’m excited to test and see
took ages, to update to the beta, but now it works. thx
was stuck at step 4 out of 7 for 2-3 mins
i got scared
maybe your internet is super slow ?
i have a 100mbit dedicated business line, so probably not
That is pretty slow, relatively speaking. Guessing that is all depedent on location tho
so how big is the beta update firmware?
it shouldnt really take long at all, but im glad it worked. it's like a couple hundred kb
thats what i thought. im glad it worked out in the end
always look forward to a new beta wootility and beta board fw for whatever reason... thank you wooting gods and goddesses
Here's a bit of a nit, and not a new issue:
When you change profile while in the Light Indicator config it kicks you back out to Profile Effects (none selected), even if you were, say, editing a Global Effect. Minor inconvenience.
New features seem great though, thanks for the update! 👍
Based on that
With 80he and this beta feature + keeping wootility on, you have KPS, and keypress indicator.
code?
huh?
code for that rgb prof
it's the default spiral effect
Wow that butifull
why does it still say v2 at the bottom
Still no repeat while holding features for macro. Saddening sadsad.
Don't know if it's because of this update, but my 60he doesnt work with usb-c anymore (doesnt get recognized at all).
worked fine immediately after the update, but no more after the first restart.
Tried the Restore and reset device, but no luck.
Luckily it works fine with the usb-c to usb-a dongle.
The firmware and Wootility are separate, hence different versions
Well this is Wootility not Wootomation 🙂
how are you guys finding the debounce filter
Keyboard Unresponsive After Waking from Sleep Mode in Beta Update
Description:
After installing the latest beta update, my keyboard becomes unresponsive when waking the PC from sleep mode. The keyboard has no lights and does not respond to inputs until it is unplugged and replugged.
Steps to Reproduce:
Install the latest beta update.
Put the PC into sleep mode.
Wake the PC from sleep mode.
Observe that the keyboard does not respond and has no lights.
Unplug and replug the keyboard – it starts working again.
**
Expected Result:**
The keyboard should function normally after waking the PC from sleep mode.
Actual Result:
The keyboard remains unresponsive until it is unplugged and replugged.
Reproducibility:
Tested twice – the issue occurs consistently.
System Information:
Beta Update Version: Wootility v5.1.0-beta.0
Keyboard Model: Wooting 80HE
PC motherboard: ASUS TUF GAMING B650M-PLUS WIFI Bundkort
Update:
i just unchecked the beta program, and it asked me to downgrade.
it seems like working normally again, as it did before i updated it
**Recommendation **
Dont do the newest beta program update
Why I don’t have sdk on the wootility ? Because I’m on Mac ?
yes
Where is the debounce setting? Can't find it.
One more thing, is there any chance to add a visual feed back for the Rapid Trigger? The same as you did for the actuation point feedback on the UI @night elm
in the setting tab where u change polling rate
I just had this occur to me for the first time since the update, never happened before the beta. Also on 80HE, Win11. It hasn't been a consistent issue for me, I've put the machine to sleep several times since the beta upgrade without this issue.
New Update
Im still facing the same issue.
i think its because my keyboard itself is stuck at the beta firmware
Yes
oh, so you may still face the same issue as me
mine still doesnt repond after waking up from sleep mode
because you are still running the beta firmware, you just downgraded to non-beta wootility
Also having to unplug & replug my 80HE every time I turn my PC on, similar mobo
You need to downgrade and opt out of the beta program
Having a problem where my 3rd profile gets randomly overridden by my 4th profile so my third profile gets deleted and i have to remake my third profile
debounce filter has been really damn good I can set all my keys to 0.15mm rapid trigger again
my rapid trigger settings reset all time when i launch the wootility i saved my setting i leave the software i relaunch and my rapid trigger setting reset to 0.4 somebody have same behavior?
Known bug, we have a fix in the works
Ok thanks but the settings are saved in the keyboard and it reset when i open wootility or they are not saved?
this happened to me on every bootup on my pc, I downgraded since i needed to unplug and replug everytime i booted my pc and before i even got to the login screen
Seems like the update completely broke razer chroma integration for me. tried reinstalling both apps
Wooting 60HE
@errant swan @frozen fog and anyone else that has issues with the keyboard not waking up properly with this latest firmware:
- Use this link https://beta.wootility.io/?test-builds=true (this URL has Test builds enabled)
- Click on "Settings"
- Select "Updates"
- Select "Your keyboard"
- Press "Get Test Firmware"
- Press "Select Test Build"
- Select
2.11.0-beta.0+fix-wakeup
But, i have already downgraded the firmware. as you told me
and opted out from the beta program
sorry if im slow but wym by waking up
after you put you computer on sleep mode, and turn it back on. The keyboard doesn't respond
which result in, you have to unplug it, and re-plug it
we faced it with 80HE model
@simple dust maybe you should put that on a note^
people with 60HE, may not face the issue. only people with 80HE face the issue
only reason i got the new firmware was cause of debounce filter which lwk feels rlly nice
i mean i rarely had an issue w lowest setting act point and rapid trigger but other than that it feels really good
Thanks, I'll see if I experience the wakeup issue on this version.
I just put it through a half dozen sleep-wake cycles without issue. I only hit this problem twice in around 10 sleep-wake cycles though, so I'll keep my eye on it, but looking promising.
Just installed it, will reply next time I restart my PC
just messaging to let you know I've also been experiencing the wake up bug, and have now installed this firmware. I will message again if I still have issues with the new firmware
I installed the fix, works so far, thanks !
Several more sleep-wake cycles later, the patched firmware seems to have done the trick for me as well.
Fixed for me too
Thanks devs for not releasing fake firmware update with 0.1rt and switch selector on april 1st
They should have inverted our rgb profiles for today
Yea I can confirm it fixed the wake up bug for me too!
guys how can i install the new firmware cuz i have problem every time i lunch my pc or restart the keybored didn't turn on till i replug the usbc again
The steps are listed here #1354496567423271083 message
has anyone figured out a fix for chroma connect module unexpectedly failed? I even tried rolling back off beta and it didnt fix
When my PC sleeps for a long time, and then i wake it up, the keyboard doesnt work unless i unplug and replug. Im on windows 11 latest version and on Firmware v2.11.0-Beta.0
oh nice i didnt see that
thank you
maybe that will work
worked for others i think
does your kb work?
okay that took ages for it to get the firmware that was 4 minutes of waiting
scared me for a second

do i click update device or leave it as is ?
leave it like that
alright
update when they release new firmware
https://wooting.io/wootility/changelogs/5.1.0-beta.1
New version out, trying to fix most of the issues that have cropped up
Read about the changes and improvements in Wootility version 5.1.0-beta.1.
We plan to sort that as part of making it accurately show the actuation :)
How faar is this 6 month ago plan? im still annoyed from the reddish color of the 80he "white" 😉
--> Igwoot | Calder — 21.09.2024 21:23
White is difficult with RGB LED that gets diffused by materials. BUT we are still missing a calibration step, calibrating specific productions bins with certain color shifts for each keyboard.
It’s a bit of a next level thing that we can still update by software once implementation is 100% complete. We have all the info for backwards compatible implementation
For now you can try: R 227, G 255, B 215. I tried offsetting the red with a green tint, it looks pretty white to me, at least on my keycaps.
yeah did that but it realy is still not ok.. in the end i see when i activate the ripple effect that it CAN BE white becouse the ripple literly shows good white values but as it gets "darker" its not as good
in my book this means it needs valibration with difrent values and can be solved quite well
Yeah, sadly, this only works well when you use it without any effects. :/
actualy the effect is the whitest white for me while most fix colors are not resulting in me using a very very dark white just to minimal illuminate
fact is this what calder stated is now 6+ month ago and i still dont see any progress and you cant do all with just RGB there is more in the mix^^ im sad that the keyboard doesent hafe a WRGB but oh well..
They are probably still working on it, we just gotta wait a bit more. 😩
i mean it never will be the cleanest white BUT it should be better than White= red/Pink
this is the whitest white i could get and thats actualy vvery sad..
changelogs for beta.2? nothing special maybe
Changes since v5.1.0-beta.1
Fix Flaretech boards (Wooting One and Wooting Two) having issues connecting to Wootility beta
Fix some issues around gamepad configuration which could result in a profile not applying/saving properly
Fix issue where Ctrl/Cmd + S would always trigger a profile save even if one was not needed/available
The UI now gets blocked when a profile is saving, to prevent issues with certain actions interfering with the saving process
alr
Hi, I was pointed this way for my suggestion regarding a wootility feature https://discord.com/channels/167181566978555904/1362224962508947538
A post on reddit a few months ago asked the same question I have now which is regarding a dedicated remappable button for muting the mic input. The answer then was that there is no OS level binding in the same way that volume and play/pause has, however this is not the case with linux where many more keysims are available like XF86AudioMicMute for mic muting that are used in the same way as the existing XF86AudioPlay (play/pause) commands that I'm guessing wootility already makes use of.
I can't change the RGB lighting after updating my board. Tachyon mode is off as well. It was fine yesterday but I turned on my PC just now and the RGB is all weird.
aww man 😦 i actually had it off for a while cause even though i had the brightness for it at 100 percent it was very dim.. now that im trying to give it another shot i get the same message.. lame.. hopefully this is fixed soon.
try restoring the keyboard.. the instructions are in the wooting settings under the help tab. you will lose your settings but worth trying to give it a shot..
You can save settings by exporting them and saving them somewhere (like google docs or in a dm) and after reset import them back
yes. my bad forgot to mention this.
I'm a bit confused about how key assignments work when using special functions like ModTap. It seems that a single key can still have a third binding, even though it already has:
a DKS action,
For example, I reused the Enter key on Layer 2 for DBeaver with a dual-function setup (DKS):
normal press triggers Shift + Home,
deep press triggers Shift + Home than on release Ctrl + Enter.
However, in Remap, this key still shows MUTE (its default function), which is misleading and confusing, because the UI doesn't reflect the actual configured behavior. - or it even has 3 actions wich would be although strange. how is this intended?
Dunno if this is from the recent update or not, but the app won't lemme update the firmware, and I can't use it otherwise. Both app and web version.
Hovering over gives a 🚫 and presssing does nothing
Is it possible to have the option of the trail effect activating on key release rather than key press?
Is there a way to downgrade the firmware from beta to stable?
You have to restore.
should i do the update or still the restart pc and keyborard not lunch till i replug the usb c (bug)
Can't unlock brightness shortcuts to go to 100% with Techyon mode enabled
I've encountered a bug where when I have Tachyon mode enabled with brightness unlocked I can't use the brightness shortcuts on my 80HE (FN + F11/F12 by default) to go above 70%, despite it being unlocked in the RGB Settings.
This is on the release version of Wootility, but I was recommended to post it here.
You using wooting’s cable?
Yes, the one that came with the keyboard
are we dead until 60hev2 released?
When this beta released I think Simon said there were a few surprises coming, albeit we don’t know when.
A bit late but we're dead mostly due to computex, should get back on cleaning this beta up once we're back to normal
oh, thanks for telling that.
should i do the update or still the restart pc and keyborard not lunch till i replug the usb c (bug)?
Beta version, should I upgrade it?
If you want to? I haven't had any issues
I just want to know if it will be better than the normal version if I update it.
You can check the changes for 5.1.0-beta.0-2 here https://wooting.io/wootility/changelogs?version=5.1.0-beta.0
If I want TachyonMode to work at 1ms, at what percentage should I adjust the keyboard brightness?
it doesn't work that way, asssuming on you're on 60he, it'll always be on 1ms no matter what brightness your keyboard is in when tachyon is enabled.
The reason brightness gets locked to <70% is because of the extra power draw that not all cables can handle, you can click the padlock to unlock it
So it shows that if you adjust the brightness to 70%, TachyonMode is 1 ms, right?
Brightness doesn't affect Tachyon mode, as I said the reason it gets limited is because a lot of cables don't support the extra power draw.
If you use a good cable you're free to unlock it
And will the efficiency decrease? Will the response decrease as well if the brightness is adjusted to 70%?
It's just power to the LEDs, as long as the keyboard gets enough power it's all fine
But if TachyonMode is enabled, the lighting effects will not be there, right?
Correct because they would take computational power
why discord
well anyway, linux, 5.1.0-beta.2, looks like this
make of that what you will
Once the background program hits: Will we be able to swap profiles by having a game open? And can we sync RGB to stuff like Hue lights then?
One of our plans with the background service is to add the feature to have profiles that are automatically loaded depending on the app/game you have in the foreground.
Second thing, that's something for RGB software like Artemis RGB or Signal RGB
https://wooting.io/wootility/changelogs/5.1.0-beta.3
New lil beta update, aiming to push this to stable next week if nothing else comes up
That is freaking awesome cannot wait.
reporting Bug for firmware 2.11.0_beta2 . It is not correctly detecting double/multiple active profiles, which is the purpose of this firmware build:
Where this build was released for the purpose of preventing the addition of profiles that are already active, but in my testing I was able to occupy 2 (two) slots on the keyboard with the same profile configuration (b41e54b157061631f7b31b2a8337512c6362)
This is reproducible in multiple keyboards
I think it was meant, that switching between multiple same profiles does not unload and load said profiles anymore. Not preventing you from adding them multiple times
That does not make sense. Why would some one invest development time on such a thing that brings absolutely no benefit, while at the same time burning a write cycle on the flash? That does not make sense ....
And still, taking my example above, the keyboard does toggle between onboard slots 3 and 4, so that is not the correct justification or understanding of the proposed functionality this firmware version delivers
Suggestion for the background service: the ability to change backlight levels based on time of day. At least a "daytime" and "nighttime" setting would be pretty swell so we don't get flashbanged at night.
You're misunderstanding the changelog. The update was only to skip reloading the profile on the keyboard when you activate it again while it's already the active one.
That's a cool idea! I've added it to our idea list :)
yall need to fix the onboard profiles getting wiped when you follow the troubleshoot OR at the bare minim make it way more clear its a FACTORY RESET
Save your profiles on wootility 🙂
smart
hello, this thing that is talked about rappid trigger in minute 6:52 will come in a beta?https://youtu.be/2ZK_XODi7zY?si=NQ5cYtUhVawZ1nKF&t=412
These new Hall Effect keyboards are claiming to have better latency, accuracy and rapid trigger performance than the Wooting 80HE.
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Yes, 0.1 rapid trigger is coming soon™
Does anyone know if the chroma bug has been fixed yet?
in case anyone has waking up from sleep issues, this fixed it for me: #1392842246583357482 message
Aiming to land it in Wootility v5.2 
Not yet unfortunately, it got more complicated than expected. Although I'd recommend using something like Artemis RGB, as you can get a better experience than the Chroma Connect integration
[v5.1.0-beta.4] Various fixes and a couple of new things
https://wooting.io/wootility/changelogs/5.1.0-beta.4
Got a new beta update today. The goal has been to push this v5.1 to stable for a while, but I've been busy with a lot of things, so been unable to push it.
So here's a build with some of the things and fixes that have been happening in the background. Hopefully this will be the real last™ beta of v5.1 before it lands in stable 
The issue is my whole setup is synced with chroma and it all reacts to my games...
for example when im healing it all turns green etc
I like that this channel is forever pretending to have an unread message now
discord 😒
I really wish this was somehow fixed even in the basic capacity it was at before
Fix is being worked on 
Was wondering have you had any reports on the keyboard being unresponsive if spamming the mouse click? If so is there an fix?
I've not heard of this before, but perhaps your USB bus is being saturated.
Eg, if your mouse is sending a ton of data via USB and your keyboard is sending a ton of data via USB, maybe your USB bus doesn't have enough bandwidth
Consider making a post in #1019755933959733258 for further assistance
Will Do! i had one but didnt get much attention.
[v5.1.0-beta.5] Restore Chroma connect + small fixes
https://wooting.io/wootility/changelogs/5.1.0-beta.5
Chroma Connect is fixed now @swift harbor
Legend!
In Wootility 5.1, could we get an option to make toggle keys that are only accessible in the FN layer? Currently when making a toggle key in an FN layer, you need have the FN layer active to toggle it on, but you don't to toggle it off. This makes toggles pretty much unusable with FN layers, since if I wanted to bind a toggle to my E key or something, it would toggle off the second I start typing on the main layer. Along with that, the active state RGB for the toggle (white light when toggle is on) should only be visible in the FN layer.
Additionally, I have a couple of QoL suggestions to make toggles more customizable that could also maybe be added later.
- It would be nice if we could change the color of the active state RGB for toggles like we can with caps lock.
- It would also be nice if we could make toggles show up on the light indicator for the 80HE. Currently there's only an AnyKeyActuated condition in the effect creator, but a SpecificKeyActuated condition or even just a condition exclusively for toggles would be great.
Good feedback 
Bug report (I think) - seems like the current reimplementation leaves out the last left row of keys when using chroma connect. Was not like this in the past @night elm
Fixed and will be included in the next update, thanks for the report
Awesome, thanks
After 5.1 wootility update I was trying to change my rgb color on my 80 he so I opened a chrome tab to select color from it and rpidetly move my cursor on my keyboard keys to change the keys colors but after that my keyboard gets disconnected from the wootility and I must to restart my pc to get it back it happens multiple times on my 4th profile
I posted a video about it on community support too
When using the eye dropper to pick the color of a key in the RGB settings, the color is darker than it should be. Wootility darkens the color of the key on the screen when you hover over it, and that darkened overlay applies to the eye dropper tool as well. Maybe it shouldn't darken when using the eye dropper tool, or make the eye dropper tool ignore it somehow.
I just made a report about it here with a video to show what I'm talking about https://github.com/WootingKb/wootility-issues/issues/339
hmm... HDR?
setting for the trail rgb effect to be initiated on key release rather than key press
The eyedropper is a little misleading, it takes the raw pixel. If you want to use a color that's already on some other key, right click that key
OKEY here a big request
CAPS LOCK is used by gaming but what is not wanted is the capslock itself is it somehow possible to send the key withoput locking? or AT LEAST CHANGE IT TO OFF WITH MODE CHJANGE OR WINDOWS KEYPRESsß
good example what usaly happens after game seassions and typing..

not going to break your board tho
