Wooting 80HE

[opal harness]

Give us 20% more!
A Wooting 80HE would be just perfect for many of us.

[opal harness]

Yes please! At present I use 2 keyboard a 60HE for FPS and a g715 TKL for everything else would love a 80HE or TKL so I can stick to one

[plucky eagle]

tkl

[tacit badger]

A TKL next is just a natural choice, imo! I know so many clinching to the hope of a TKL as the next product release.

[rich venture]

Or a 75%, a form factor similar to the Drunk Deer.

And 2.4 GHz wireless, please!

[rich venture]

I drafted a keyboard layout that could be useful: It is a 75% with all standard cap sizes.

Only the left shift key is needed twice (since the right shift key must be shorter).

Just figuring out a way to show it...

This is a German Mac version.

Made with http://www.keyboard-layout-editor.com/#/

[rich venture]

This would be the Win Iso En keyboard:

[rich venture]

Actually this would be my favorite setup, but it is obviously very irregular:

[rich venture]

This would be a Keychron compatible layout.
I don’t like the 1u modifier keys on the right hand side but they seem to become pretty standard.

The casing may become standard, too, as it just adds 1u in the x-direction and 1u in the y-direction. (Compared to the 60% casing.)

F-keys should always be grouped, IMHO, even if it comes at the expense of one key.

[wary plank]

For me, this standard layout would be perfect

[rich venture]

I would buy a TKL as well, but I think a more compact design has its merits:

[tacit badger]

Beautiful TKL layout

[rich venture]

This would be a “Wooting” – W - fn key grouping. It would serve the purpose of fn-key grouping and also give it a bit of brand identity. (And it also happens to coincide with the the Mac media keys.)

[wary plank]

My fav layout

[rich venture]

For comparison: same design, but “W” layout:

[true trout]

I think people will complain about finger placement for arrows on the last layout shown.

[fierce rose]

I think the top one is peak keyboard, even thought a compact one is just as useful. Maybe two versions is good.

[rich venture]

The arrow keys are actually in the normal position. But the legends of the keys and the position of the “Sup” i.e. “Super” key may be confusing. So here is a better picture. (One could always re-map the keys and change the keycaps, so for the hardware the legends and roles of individual keys are not that important, I guess.)

[rich venture]

This would be the smallest exploded layout with all standard keycap sizes:

[true trout]

Menu on the wrong row but otherwise a very interesting take

[rich venture]

Right, I forgot about sculpted keycaps. That poses additional difficulties. So, for compatibility with regular keycaps back to an 80% TKL?

[true trout]

I mean, you can still make it more interesting than standard TKL. Remove that menu button, you still have those F keys, extra key above space, compacter layout

[rich venture]

But that would be a loss in functionality. And that to just gain 1u in width over a standard TKL. I prefer a keyboard with full set of modifier keys. I would rather use non-standard keys (or just use a standard TKL) in order to achieve that. The “W” layout has all the modifiers and it is even more compact. (And a “W” layout is basically a variant of the fairly standard 84key form factor and thus could potentially be compatible with 3rd party cases.)

[rich venture]

The advantage of the wider form factor is, of course the standard 1.25u modifiers. And with one non-standard modifier key they are all there. So that would be something like this:?

[tired fern]

+1 - A TKL with standard layout like the discontinued Wooting One would be perfect for gaming and office purposes.

1. Regarding the layout: in most places (especially office) you are offered only standard layouts. So it would be benefitial that the wooting would offer a standard layout too. You do not need to adjust and adapt yourself between different keyboard layouts in office or at home then.

2. A TKL gives most people all the additional keys needed for work.

[rich venture]

Frankly, I would buy anything between a 75% and a 80% TKL. 2.4 GHz wireless would be great, though. 😉

[rich venture]

I have two further ideas for the “W” layout. This one has 1.25u main modifiers on both sides of the space bar:

This second one has all 1.25u modifiers in row 1 and thus two irregular modifiers in the column on the right:

[worthy lark]

imo best keyboard layout, with rotary on top

[glad knot]

yes have 60he order right now id happy buy a 2nd if they did something like this

[rich venture]

A rotary dial or knob would be nifty. At least as an option. I still prefer grouped fn keys. It could be done, e.g. like this:

With a knob “option” I mean something like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AU3VZrw_hss

[noble venture]

Why is everyone posting 75%’s in the TKL thread

[rich venture]

Isn’t a 75% also a TKL i.e. a keyboard without a numpad?

Regarding the rotary dial a.k.a. knob: The hall effect sensor captures an analog signal, right? So, would it be possible to create a rotary dial that just moves the magnet in a characteristic fashion such that the sensor data produced by that movement could be interpreted as knob rotation?

That way you could create a sort of “lekker knob switch” and all positions on the PCB could theoretically accomodate a knob.

[noble venture]

No, an 80% (TKL) and a 75% are different. Different layouts and usually 75%’s are just 65%’s + F row, less keys than full TKL layout.

As someone who spent more on custom keyboards than I’d like to admit. Layout = names, regardless of the amount of keys that are on the board.

[tired zealot]

TKL please. Just bought a Apex Pro TKL reluctantly but would kill for a Wooting TKL even if it's wired

[jagged warren]

Plz give us TKL wooting plz

[forest hedge]

I really hope for a tkl

[severe gale]

Same here ^ I don't plan on buying a bigger Wooting than the UwU currently but I think that a TKL would be what would convince me 😁

[arctic turtle]

+TKL pretty please

[worthy lark]

TKL is too large. 75% is the best option beetween 60% and fullKB: same keys as TKL but more compact and more (+more) options to custom build.
IMO keyboard market is pointed to a compact design: Wooting 75% will break it, just ask to Hipyo tech, Taeha types, Badseed tech, Optimum, ecc...

[misty cypress]

Yes 75% would be the purrfect size and I cannot wait for this…. my 60he is just to annyoing I miss F-Keys and the arrow keys in daily use… and I already double bindes the arrow keys etc. it is not the same… 75% would be endgame I guess I would buy 2 so if 1 breaks…

[dusky zephyr]

Literally just take the W2HE and chop off the numpad, you end up with a Drop CTRL with Lekker switches