#W key slightly pressing constantly

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solemn lily
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https://imgur.com/a/plLygBo

Actuation point is at 1mm.
Keyboard is flickering, acting like I am slightly pressing the key, but not quite enough to actually press 'W'. I have it on the "Jelly" RGB fx so it lights up my keyboard more based on pressure.
It occurs randomly and constantly goes on until I press on the W key again, and sometimes that doesn't fix it.
I saw Wooting's Youtube video about random things happening to the keyboard and how to fix it, had to do with voltage and the cable not being able to handle the voltage of the keyboard itself and brightness or something like that, but I do not believe that is the issue. I did still lower the brightness to 50% just in case.

Any recommendations on a fix?

Video I am referencing:
https://youtu.be/U8ojU_8ASVE

stone crow
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It can be EMI, that can also can cause issues. Like any magnet or electric device especially direct above or under the device. For example some fancy desks have magnets in it to clamp on accessories. Or the device don't work reliable when it's placed on top of a laptop. To test for that you can use the trail RGB effect and move the keyboard around and pushing it on the side without pressing any key. If keys get activated and especially when their spot compared to the ground / desk moved accordningly.

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To really rule out a power issue please use the provided cable and connect the Wooting either directly to a port on the back I/O panel of the mainboard or on an active USB hub (externally powered) and set the background brightness level to 2%.

solemn lily
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Yes, the USB is the original one, and directly connected to the back of the PC already. And I will try the brightness level. I don't believe it is magnet related as I have nothing magnetic around.

stone crow
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Some people had magnets in their desk which they weren't aware of. Also electric devices can cause EMI problems.
One potential cause after the other should be ruled out.

solemn lily
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Makes sense. What next?

stone crow
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Have you already tried setting the brightness to 0%.
Have you checked for EMI with the trail RGB effect and an actuation of just 0,1 mm?
To which number the keyboard lights up when you use the touch RGB effect?
Did it help to unplug the keyboard and if so for how long did it work until the problems becomes noticable again?

solemn lily
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So the actuation point of my W key is always 1mm, so when it flickers, it is just enough to enable the RGB effect I have set, but not enough to actually press 'W' and input it into my computer.
So if I set the brightness to 0%, how would I know if it is still happening since I won't be able to see it flicker?

And yes, I tried the EMI with trail RGB effect, nothing.

Wdym which number the keyboard lights up when I use the touch RGB effect?

It becomes noticeable at random, I can't tell if it's for the duration of use when it occurs, or when I use the 'W' key more often, or just randomly happens.

stone crow
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You can use the a RGB effect, like the touch effect. Or set the lowest actuation point and use the trail RGB effect while the idle brightness is at 0%.

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For the trail effect you used a 0,1 mm actuation point as suggested?

solemn lily
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Yes I did

stone crow
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Wdym which number the keyboard lights up when I use the touch RGB effect?

The touch RGB shows the detected analog value on the number row of the deepest pressed key. So if the keyboard thinks a key is pressed it should be shown.

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The deeper a key is pressed the more number will light up.

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Normally the one should not be light up. For that it's the best to set the other none number keys to black (0, 0, 0).

solemn lily
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Ah I see, just tested it, when I take my hands off my keyboard it shows no RGB but when I press it goes all the way to the '+' sign

stone crow
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The Jelly effect changes the color depending on the detected analog of the key. So if it don't flickers with static RGB but it does on Jelly if means the keyboard registers a slight key press. So you need to check what's causing this.

solemn lily
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yes exactly, it registers a slight key press. haha that is what I am trying to figure out here, idk why it's happening

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i'm assuming it has to deal with the keyboard, cause there are no external factors effecting it

stone crow
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If the key moves when you move the keyboard it's EMI. If it remains on the same key it's due to the key.

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To check for the spring you can replace the switch.

solemn lily
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is there an easy way to replace the switch?

stone crow
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What about the calibration? Is it better for a while after a replug?

stone crow
solemn lily
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I'll leave it unplugged for a bit tonight and get back to you.

When I was first using it, I was switching it out with another mechanical keyboard constantly, using the same Wooting USB cable, would that have anything to do with it?

stone crow
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No and it don't matter for how long the Wooting is disconnected.

solemn lily
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ok, then I will continue using it like normal and get back to you, I notice it the most at night when i am playing games cause I have it on a different keyboard profile, and it is dark in my room so the brightness change on the 'w' key is more noticeable

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this part I could live with as it isn't actually affecting my gameplay, it's just annoying me cause it shouldn't do it.

Another issue I have been having though is the ALT and CTRL key actually getting stuck and messing with my gameplay which happened 2-3 times yesterday.

stone crow
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You need to be more precise.

solemn lily
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are you talking about me with my hands on accident pressing the CTRL and ALT key? cause it isn't that.

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I have taken my hands fully off the keyboard and pressed 'z' for example, and it inputs it as ALT+Z

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Alt+Z disables the hud in Overwatch, when I really just wanted to press 'z' and tell my team my ultimate status, which is just the 'z' key.

stone crow
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I doubt that the key is physically stuck and I would also imagine that it's also not logical stuck. Like that the key is still handled as pressed even your fingers are off the keyboard.

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Like you can use a keyboard tester. if there is a general problem it would also happen outside the game.

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Also please share the profile ID of the profile you are using.

solemn lily
solemn lily
stone crow
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With an actuation point of 4,0 mm it should not happen that Alt get accidential activated.

solemn lily
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agreed

stone crow
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Did it happen out of it's own or did it get activated twice?

solemn lily
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out of it's own. I'll bring up overwatch again as that is what i have recent memory of it happening in. I don't believe I ever press ALT in that game, yet it happened twice. And I was also stuck Crouched by it thinking CTRL was being pressed and I had to press CTRL again to get it unstuck.

stone crow
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If it's the later it can be due to the very sensitive Rapid Trigger setting. Maybe the key bounces a bit and so it may can get activated multiple times. It make not sense to have Rapid Trigger enabled if the actuation point is on a deep press / big value.

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Please check this outside the game, like by using a keyboard tester.

solemn lily
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so for rapid trigger, should I set per key actuation point to only small values like my WASD keys?

stone crow
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Use it for keys where you want / need it. If you set the actuation point for modifier keys to 3,5 or deeper anyway why even using Rapid Trigger where?

solemn lily
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true

stone crow
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The only reason to use such a value is so you don't press it in a stressful situation.

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Rapid Trigger makes sense if you want to quickly spam a key or quickly move. Overwise I would not recommend to use a very sensitive value for Rapid Trigger.

solemn lily
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ohhh okay, thank you for that clarification

stone crow
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I play with Rapid Trigger setting of 0,3 mm and I started with a much higher value and lowered it every now and then when I was comfortible with it.

solemn lily
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okay, I'll see if these changes now help my problems.

thank you for all your help