#Performance comparison between Wooting 60he and wooting two HE

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subtle spade
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Hello, I am choosing between these keyboards. Currently using a 10 year old wireless keyboard which is not that smooth, and probably has bad latency. This is why i'm trying to upgrade, to have a smoother experience playing my favourite game; Osu!

As you probably already know, this game is very precise and having the very best of input latency and rapid trigger will make a difference in this game. On the website the 60HE seems to be praised as if it's targeted towards pro-gamers and faster than the 2 HE. I saw some information that the 2HE has 2ms latency compared to 1ms latency of the 60HE. But there seems to be a plan to get the 2HE sub 1ms latency as well with software/driver updates ? Can I expect this to happen anytime soon or is this just a test that might not become reality?

So basically what I'm asking is, is the 60HE a better performing keyboard and what exactly makes the 60HE perform better ?

Thanks

opal oracle
subtle spade
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WIll I benefit from that if I buy a 2HE now or is that something that will only be included in the models made after the update ?

opal oracle
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ALL 2HE models.

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Basically unless you somehow managed to grab a 60HE or a 2HE pre-owned from last summer, then you're getting the updated ARM.

subtle spade
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okay that's great. If I understand it correctly there will barely be any difference in terms of performance besides that the 60HE has less keys on the matrix

opal oracle
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Yes - leading to an ever so slightly longer latency compared to the 60HE. Can't fight physics, only try and reduce the difference 🙂

subtle spade
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That's great. I am now one step closer to making my choice. All I have left to do is decide wether I want to be able to customise my 60HE or want to go the budget route and have a numpad 🤔

Anyway I want to thank you for being such a down to earth company and making a honestly awesome product. good job !!

opal oracle
glass hemlock
# subtle spade okay that's great. If I understand it correctly there will barely be any differe...

The difference is a very small, so it should not make an impact. But I doubt that a person really can tell the difference. Due to all the other factors, like system latency and screen latency it should be negligible. A traditional electro-mechanical keyboard is much slower anyway, like the debounce alone takes often around 5 ms. As far as I know the Wootings are still faster or at least equal than the opto-mechanical and Hall-effect competition.

But the W60HE is a very tiny bit faster, that only need to scan 4 multiplexer instead of 7 compared to the W2 HE. Wooting is working on a feature for the full size versions where you can priorities the multiplexer. So to deprioritise one in favor of another. Like to scan the num pad keys less often but some of the letters more often. In that case it would make no difference for your favorite keys.

subtle spade
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Very interesting and thanks for the additional information. Is said feature something that I will be able to use in the future with current 2HE keyboards that are being sold (new) ?

glass hemlock
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Wooting don't arbitrarily limits new futures to new models. As long as older models are capable they try to add new features to older models.

This is shown for example in the current Beta firmware where they add the new Rapid Trigger feature even to their first keyboard which was the Wooting One.

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Because the analog signal isn't as good there are some limitaions.

subtle spade
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Alright that is very good to hear, and more reason why this company is great 😄 I was just checking because I don't know for sure if some things are requiring hardware or not

glass hemlock
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So yes it can take a while, it's a while now since the older Flaretech Wootings got an update. So yes the prioritization may is somehow slow and they are very busy but they try.

subtle spade
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But as I understand it now, if I buy a 2HE, over time i'll be getting some feature updates regarding performance that will bring the performance up a notch and bring it on the same level as 60HE

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and I understand that is barely any difference between perforamnce of both keyboards anyway

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This is very good to hear. I am looking forward to enjoying my new keyboard already 😄

glass hemlock
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Very very close... As mentioned the W60HE has four multiplexer. All their keyboards use this instead of a matrix approach. So all keys are fast there. The hardware can only scan four together, so for the full size board three can be scanned fast while the other four would be delayed and so scanned very slow. So with the feature the keyboard would be very fast but not for all keys, or just fast for all.

subtle spade
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For Osu! I only need 2 keys to be as fast as possible really. I don't mind this