#two_he_modding
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I should have taken some footage of the modding process for my 2 HE, now I am too lazy to open the keyboard again. So here it goes
Mods done:
Poured silicone resin 1:1 on both 2 HE case and keycaps
Neoprene foam between top plate and pcb(4mm) - 3.5mm would be ideal
Band aid mod to dampen downstroke for stabs
Teflon tape(plumbers tape) on stab wires - I overdid it a little and it's kinda a little mushy
Previous Mods
Neoprene foam for pcb and case(replaced by silicone and orignal case foam) - stripped two pcb standoff due to Neoprene being harder than original making it harder to screw PCB onto the case.
Hi you wooting two modders. There seem to be a lot less than in the 60he thread. I hope someone can help me either way.
I am a total noob in the keyboard scene so I would love to hear some advice and see some pictures of two he's with pudding keycaps.
I get my keyboard around March and will get me some Keycaps till then.
I think about pudding keycaps and the following
https://www.caseking.de/traitors-inf-keycap-set-pbt-us-gakc-221.html
Does anyone have experience with these in the manner of of how the light will shine through or around?
Any suggestions on pudding keycaps? German layout if possible....
The switches are semi translucent
also which one of these materials would work best as a top plate? anything to avoid?
I would go with stainless steel since they have the correct 1.5 mm thickness
Are you fabricating the top plate design yourself?
Aluminium is one of the easiest metal to machine. There are people using brass plate.
Are you going for any characteristics like sound for example?
I am looking on sendcutsend.com for fabrication
this is to install a shorter spacebar (just moving the stabilizer positions)
Top plate thickness tolerance if I remembered is +-0.1mm.
But closer to 1.5mm is ideal
nothing to do with sound
can the material screw with the sensor?
Hmm, how short are the spacebar you intend to make?
my concern rn
The sensors are part of the pcb, and the pcb doesn't use screw in stabilizers
🤔?
interfere with the magnetic field for example
You should check with wooting. But aluminium is safest for preventing magnetic interference
different metals allow for different amount field penetration
There are stainless steel that are non-ferromagnetic.
But wooting uses aluminium for their top plate for 2 HE
Are they able to cut down aluminium to thickness, without significant cost incurred due to machining time?
There are plates with 1.6mm thickness, but that is at the edge of what is allowable
If Wooting has silent linear lekker, I would have designed a case around the 60he pcb and get it fabricated in polycarbonate
The gap on right side should be bigger in my opinion
which I could get by modifying the right spacebar stabilizer on the top plate. I will test as is for now
I apologize if it looks absurd
I will explain some of my layout now
dark Blue = movement keys
Red = roughly, all other keys
Neutral hand position in FPS games; see picture below (3 finger movement). The reason this has merit is because it's the only way to "legally" be able to actuate Jump with right index, left thumb and additionally now pinky. In many games you want to bind jump on scroll-wheel and spacebar which can now be pressed by both the thumb and pinky (modern games usually only allow to keys max for bindings: Valorant, Apex Legends -no Config file, Doom eternal, CoD etc..). Hopefully I will post a video going in the details about this 1st optimization and how this new layout can supports many more FPS games, under one common base config
it's tourney legal to be able to hack your spacebar down, right?
The 2nd optimization is that the gap on the right side of the spacebar can be used to more easily access , and RightAlt (flicking). Compared to WASD, left thumb can press more keys.
The 3rd optimization is using the CapsLock keycap in place of LAlt. This allows to dual press X + LeftAlt more easily. To make the necessary room, I remove the Windows key, which I would remove anyways to avoid accidentally interfering with my game. If large hands and you can reach the Windows key you can always remap w/ software and hack off the left side of the caps keycap to make room lol. Compared to default WASD the pinky can now press more keys than with.
The 4th and final optimization regards the choice of leaving a column of keys between my movement keys of R = [Forward] and Y = [Right], those keys being 5 T and G. This is better than having an uninterrupted string of Movement keys (basically WASD-style) because it gives the player the valuable option of pressing 5, T and G with either index or middle finger, expanding your options during strafe gunfights
These are the reasons I main this layout in FPS games
Oh you basically want to shift the keys usage slightly to the right for fps mainly for ergonomic reasons?
Your biggest enemy right now is spacebar being too left from where you normally pressing?
it's mainly to optimize, while making sure not to compromise ergonomics
I shorten the spacebar from both ends for the 2nd and 3rd optimization I describe above pretty much ^^^
Ideally, I would like to shorten the spacebar further
My spacebar already has closer stabilizer stems. Now i have to either make a new top/switch plate to fit it or somehow modify the current plate
Luckly this mod doesn't affect typing whatsoever
For me at least
They do have the step files for wooting 2 he's top plate, depending on the CAD program you used, it can be a bitch to modify it(redoing a new one in process) or a breeze to do it
Sanded down spacebar so i can more easily reach N M and , without pressing spacebar accidentally
looks weird but I can play better so it's a W
But ideally, I would want the spacebar to straight up end underneath N probably
@trim lava any thoughts on ordering a wooting two he top plate from a manufacturers like sendcutsend.com? (this is an NA company so you may not be familiar) These are some of the options on the materials they offer (was thinking aluminium at 1.6 mm thickness (I know, it's +.1mm but I'm ok with that). Any metals to avoid maybe? Any feed back is appreciated #1037726692120203274 message
Recently I got my keyboard case design manufactured by pcbway, they are the most cost effective so far for low quantity/single item fabrication.
You do need to specify certain options to keep the surface looking nice for additional cost.
I'll check them out, thanks 👍
Don't believe the auto quotation value, because they will claim that part is complex and increase price to reflect the complexity.
But otherwise other rapid prototyping companies will charge 2 - 3x more for the same part
This is a good @earnest urchin question
Thanks Calder!
#SplitTheSpacebar
With a quick glance i think all the material in the list can be used as the top plate, but since wooting two HE is top plate mounted, if you want a more soft typing feeling then go with the softest one in the list
hey! so I pre ordered a two HE(really excited) and I’m trying to change the case to something more vintage, does anybody know any vintage cases that fit the wooting two?? or do I have to get that custom made??
There isn't really a standard mounting for full-size boards, so you won't easily find any other cases that will fit it. For custom making ones you can use the case model for reference on here: https://github.com/WootingKb/wooting-design
does anyone know how long kbdfans tofu60 will take to arrive? it’s listed as pre order
8000 vs 65 messages, is now one modding the Two He?
It's much less accessible to modify, so less people do it
But the other reason is that this channel isn't that old, so does not contain the hand full of people that modified it
The modifications most commonly shared have been paintjob, keycaps, and questions/progress about modifying the case
A list of successful mods keycaps... Wold be helpfull
It is possible to build entirely new case using 2HE's pcb, but using other case from other manufacturer requires extensive modifications because there isn't a fixed standard regarding how one mounts the pcb and top plate
The cost for designing and making a new case design with 2HE's pcb in mind is expensive.
Is there any benefit to burger mount using Wooting’s plastic case?
Does anybody know where I can get decent quality keycaps with a mac and german iso layout (if possible backlit)?
Not really for 2 HE as there is no contact between switches and pcb.
For 60HE yes if you are mounting the pcb-top plate assembly on original case/any tray mounted case it can fit
Since I got my keyboard I've wanted to mod on multimedia keys. Finding the wooting STL's on Github today will make that a lot easier. I plan to make an Arduino media board that snaps onto the back of the board. It would be it's own device with it's own usb cable though.
That, or I might take the easy way and just make a keyboard-mountable housing for a ready made USB volume controller
Sounds really cool, would love to see what you make!
Tofu60 White + GMK Minimal 2
Looks amazing. I wish they had UK ISO version
Thanks, I definitely love the thoc
What kind of progress have people made in swapping the housing/case of the Two HE?
Is there any sorta proprietary sizing when it comes to full size or is it just luck if you find one that fits the PCB?
I know project files are on git and I think that'd be the best for certainty, but if anyone has found a full size that works it'd be cool if you sent it here.
nice one, how well do you see the north-facing leds shining through the south-facing keycaps?
as far as I understood (and I am just starting with keyboard modding) there is no standard for a 100% PCB so they kinda build it as they saw fit... I think the best way to get an accurate one is to CNC it yourself, or at least that's what I am trying to do
One of my favorite cases! Amazing looking! I’m trying to find me a purple blade60 right now.
Is there a typo on the wooting website for the two he? It says that the keyboard is 18 inches long but the cad files say it is only 17
Hmm check which variant of the Wooting two
The HE model is smaller I think?
First picture is dimensions of cad file for bottom case of HE, 2nd is website listed size
Hey does anyone here know if thr freebird 60 case will work with the wooting 60he?
Hi! My Wooting has just shipped and I am thinking about spraying my stock case white. I’m wondering if anyone has done that yet?
Search up how to do it properly because just spraying it white probably won’t work
Wow is that on wooting 60he
yes
Where did you buy that case it’s out of stock everywhere
I got lucky with Dangkeebs
alright heres what i have ordered so far
keycaps : GMK Minimal 2
keyboard : Wooting 60HE
case : Fjell White
lube : Krytox 205g0
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Does anyone know some coiled cables that would look good with this
hey guys, got a TWO HE and just like tofu 60 for the 60he i am thinking to try the keychron Q6 case on my TWO He. Anyone tried any metal case on the TWO HE?
Finished modding my 60he
Darn was hoping to see more two he mods in here 😔
Currently working on making a custom housing for the two he but its gonna take a while
Tofu sales must have enjoyed 60HE's release
Such a popular case and good fit with the Wooting wrist rest
Also, 60HE mods go into #996573707235491950
nah
i got my tofu60 back in 2019
which took like 6 months to deliver
it was a really'solid case but the pcb the kit came with only had enough mounting screws for 3 so it was really shit to play osu with
the foam that the wooting comes with it super awesome
it makes it feel so much better in the tofu case which is hella thick
What keycaps are these
I am waiting for silent lekker switches to pop up. Then may look into custom case for 2he.
For now I spent most of my spare savings on building a 65% silent keyboard with custom polycarbonate case design
Hey guys im new to modding keyboards. i just ordered the Wooting two HE (hopefully it will have the ARM chip?) what keycaps should I look for?
Personal preference, really. I like Cherry profile, ABS and PBT are both nice. You don't have to go all out on GMK, Drop DCX is nice and goes on sale frequently.
that is so nice
Can't wait to see how it comes out
soo Cherry is the + pattern on the bottom? ABS and PBT are the types of plastic used. I have no idea what GMK or Drop DCX is?
Any "MX" keycap will have the + on the stem. The keycap profile is going to be the shape and row height (cherry, oem, xda, dcx, etc.) GMK and Drop are just companies that make keycaps, there's many more, or you can find stuff on Amazon
so im looking for MX, the shape idk what I want i have FLAT keys now.. Logitech G815.
xda or dsa profile would be most similar
alright thanks 😄 ill worry about a diffrent case later after i get the keyboard.
Idk what "sound" I want out the keyboard idk enough yet.
My 60he will be here on Monday (wooo), I am modding it and I think I have most of the bases covered, however I want to use my grey gmmk keycaps, which way up do the switches need to be?
Hey there saw your post here!
So from what I've gathered we just need the plate and the bottom case right?
any cases for the two he?
nothing you can buy online like the 60% cases, no
it does not use a standard format
I suppose that's a silver lining for me since I'm completely new to anything related to custom keyboards and was worried about falling into that rabbit hole and spending more money than I reasonably should
Had i gotten the 60he I probably would have fallen in
Can someone with akko keycaps please post a pic of their board with rgb on? Kinda conflicted between the cyan and blacks or instead getting shine through caps. I want to see how much of the light bleeds out around them.
Hi guys, I'm new to modding keyboards! Quick question, are the lekkar switches hot swappable on keyboards other than my wooting 60he? Would the rapid trigger work as well? Thanks!!
I'm no expert, I'm fairly sure you need to use the pcb that came with the board, but I think it will fit in a lot of the popular 60% cases
Got my 60he, put it in a LI'L Dragon case with some old drop keycaps I had around. Doesn't sound to bad after lubing the switches and re-lubing the stabs. LI'L Dragon case only required a bit of modification to use it is the same as the BURGER.WORKS box60 case
If you have 60HE related topics, do post them in the #996573707235491950 thread instead of here pretty please
We would like to keep #1037726692120203274 thread on topic for the few brave two HE modders
Not sure if this would be considered a mod but I designed and 3d printed a joystick
Actually pretty clever with Lekker switches i would think it works about as good as an average gamepad joystick
That's interesting, what do you use it for?
How does it preform?
if you want some more inspiration
https://drive.google.com/drive/u/0/folders/18mDMWOw3LtTAcX2hs_73BHMUlvuBJJML
from u/sugaryplumbs
Anyone know the plate file for the wooting frog mini?
Can you put the Wooting Two HE PCB in the Apex 3 or 7 case? 
I highly doubt it since it's a non standard format
unless they miraculously use tue same mounting system for the pcb and topplate no
Tofu 60 + GMK analog dreams 2!!
@sly bough @supple radish wrong channel. this is for 2he. you wanna post that in the 60he modding channel
@storm dagger sorry, i deleted my post 🙂
is there a list of compatible cases for the two he?
No such thing I'm afraid.
alrighty thx
So no list of compatible cases, but does anyone have some good recommendations? Honestly never been a fan of the switches being exposed like how the Two HE is, it gets dirty so much easier than the other way around. Easier to clean though, but still.
??? Bizzaire, I saw in a review video saying it used a standard layout and was compatible with most cases
What was specifically?
The PCB
That's... for the 60HE.
I just assumed the Two HE would follow the same design philosophy, my mistake.
The 60HE was designed around a popular standard of DIY kits, the GH60/DZ60. Which the custom keyboard community did over time. We just piggybacked onto that.
There's no similar community for full sized keyboard.s
So you would be starting from scratch basically. We have the case design files on github, but you would have to adapt it to whichever material you wish and have it custom made 🙂
Thanks for your input.
I'm partially glad for this, I won't be tempted to spend more on mine other than keycaps and lube
It would be cool to see someone create a custom alu case for the 2HE. It would be heavy though 😄
Cause I need lube or is it factory lubed?
Does that mean I got lube, but I'm not exactly excited for the process if I don't have to do it
NEED? No. Does lubing improve the feel and sound? Yes.
So doesn't come factory lube though?
Not the same as handlubing it.
No lube < Factory lubed < Handlubed (invest 4-5 hours)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WN_-GYLTfpY
It's up to you whether investing several hours is worth it or not
Always wondered how you can lubricate your lekker switches or grease your stabilizer wire. In this video, we will deep dive on different methods of lubing and some general tips and tricks. Using the Wooting 60HE.
Krytox GPL 205G0 and Molykote EM-50L lubricant:
https://region.wooting.store/products/lubrication-set-krytox-205g0-molykote-em-50l
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I'm new to custom keyboard shenanigans as it is, so the difference is probably lost on me. I used a corsair k70 for the past eight/ nine years and never considered a new keyboard until I decided to upgrade my entire setup after building a new pc in December, which also replaced a partially eight year old pc.
Tirade over in #996573707235491950 knows a ton, so definitely look over there even if you're thinking of modding the 2HE. Only the case swap is a 60HE only thing, everything else is model agnostic.
excuse the coffee stain, but yeah. poseidon case w/ CannonKeys’ BRG keycaps (white ones) and blank black keycaps from amazon
I can' tbelieve you managed to fit an entire full sizeinto that case.
you wanna post that in the 60he modding channel not this one
oops
Hey, I am soon receiving my two HE!
I ordered krytox 205go for the switches and Permatex dielectric for the stabs.
I know that he kb is factory lubed, but I don't need to clean the switches before applying additional lube.
But what about the stabs?
Do I need to clean them before adding the dielectric grease?
That honestly looks like a bacteriophage , which is even better xD.
I would wipe them quickly with a piece of paper. Just so much easier to handle them dry till you're ready to lube and click them together and in.
Since the lube isn't just inside but on the wires themselves.
Got it !
But I don't need to clean the inside of the "wire holder" (I don't have the name for it in mind 😂)?
The stabilizer itself? The plastic part with the stem?
Yes yes that's what I meant ^^'.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WN_-GYLTfpY
I will have to defer to Calder. Been a while since I lubed my board 😄
Always wondered how you can lubricate your lekker switches or grease your stabilizer wire. In this video, we will deep dive on different methods of lubing and some general tips and tricks. Using the Wooting 60HE.
Krytox GPL 205G0 and Molykote EM-50L lubricant:
https://region.wooting.store/products/lubrication-set-krytox-205g0-molykote-em-50l
:...
Ah I've watched this vid 3 times already and will surely rewatch it again during my lubing stage xD.
But there was no cleaning step, which is why I got confused.
The wire didn't look factory lubed, but the stem/stab was 😅.
I guess the stem part isn't really a big issue.
Thx for the help !
The cleaning is just me trying to avoid getting it everywhere. I did it on my deskmat in front of my PC while watching Netflix.
And since I have two cats, I wanted to avoid any spills they could accidentally touch and lick.
That's fair 😅.
There's no odd interaction with permatex dielectric lube and the one used by wooting?
No clue - I used the Krytox/Molykote mix that the board also has from the factory.
Humm ok :/.
Finger crossed then ^^.
I heard some people here used permatex, so it should be fine I guess.
Worst case the grease gets weird and you redo it.
As long as my wires don't burst into flames, I'm fine with that !
Just got my keyboard as well, is it okay to use 205 g0 for the springs and stabs or should I buy something else
205g0 is intended for springs (the switch in general)
Too thin for stabs imo
Any recommendation on what use then?
We use and sell Molykote EM-50L, which is a commonly used grease.
Tyvm
love my new Wooting two he

Im once again impressed by people managing to fit a full size keeb into a 60% case
I assume the other keys are on the bottom
Must've sawed the PCB in twain.
if somebody knows where to find iso german white pbt pudding keycaps, write something
i bought a wooting two he on ebay and desoldered it
then cut the pcb in half
no just kidding, wrong thread my bad


does the keyboard once you order it come pre-lubed?
ahh thank you! :]
wrong channel. might wanna post that in the 60he one
OOPS lmao
thanks lol
Are there any compatible aluminum cases for wooting 2he?
ABS case really sucks tbh.
Nope
It's quite the shame
All we need is a brave individual with CNC access and some knowhow. 😄
It's a lot easier to replicate a known working model than inventing it.
Wish I had the knowhow
I also have not found anything
Because there's not
Sadly yes
How would you do it through CNC besides an entire slab? And that would cost way too much.
CNC, Milling. I'm not an engineer. I don't know the exact process used to produce cases like the Tofu 🙂
just got gmk minimal 2, fjell white case, custom stabalizers, wooting
Hey, I just got my two HE !
Since the stabs' stems (not the wires) aren't lubbed (which I didn't expect), what kind of lube do I use for them?
Gpl 205 ?
The stabilizers are definitely lubed.
Ho you're right, there is indeed a bit of lube at the bottom of the stem which must be the wire !
I just thought I'd seen a bit of lube on the attach/cross section too in the videos ^^.
Anyway I won't pretend to be an expert on modding or lube but... We use one of the most popular choices, Molykote EM-50L.
Yush for the wires!
I'll use the dielectric I have in hand for those.
But no need to lube the stems aw ?
That I have (will, I'm still waiting for it)!
Just to be sure, what do you call the housing?^^
Where the key attaches, or where the tab sits ?
Stabilizers have two components.
The wires and the housing. I assumed you were asking about putting lube in the housing around the stem piece that slides up and down?
Yes Indeed I was !
Ok, then no prob I'll brush them with 205 whenever I receive it ^^.
Also, any tips If I have difficulties unscrewing the keyboard with that puny little guy?
What screw head is that exactly?
It's a 4 head that fits well in the screw (with a tiny bit of rattling), but I don't have the exact label ^^'.
I just feel like the screw are super tight
I think I'll order one 😅
I recommend this little kit if you can find it. Has everything under the sun.
Really good if you like to tinker, you never know WHAT your electronic device is gonna have
Was about to say - Having a kit like iFixit's Mako is great for very broad work if you intend to do more than one thing. I've had mine for years and it always has the most obscure bits I need for whatever 😄
Yep, it's absolutely worth the price
Ah ah, I mean I do have my old kit my grandpa gave me when I was a kid, but I'll think about it ^^.
You might be able to get away with the NO1 bit.
But it will be slightly too large, so maybe don't risk it 😄
Stripping a screw in something like this SUCKS.
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For now, I'll stick with that one i think?
That seems rather large doesn't it?
The screwdriver itself? Yeah it's for general purpose on larger things. But the head itself is right.
I mean, judging by how tight the screws seem to be, I might need a large handle like this ^^'.
Cause those small screwdrivers are going to kill my fingers ^^.
Aight, I'll look for ph0 heads, thx guys!
Btw, I've found what it was.
It's a 00 (or even lower), not a 0 ^^.
Ah yeah that'll be difficult to screw with 😄
Yeah, seemed like a fit, but ho man I felt like a shrimp trying to unscrew it 🤣
Hey guys, just got my Two HE yesterday. Unfortunately, I am experiencing stab rattle. I have lubed previous keyboards with cherry-style stabilizers (Logitech G610 and Corsair K70), and gotten rid of all the rattle, but these Gateron/Durock style stabs are kicking my ass. I tried different keycaps, checked the wires for balance, tried swapping the entire stabilizers for Durock clip-ins I had lying around, but I still get a bit of rattle. What am I missing?
Got my 205g0, I'll lube my kb tomorrow:D.
Does anyone know about pudding keycaps similar to the HyperX but they are unbranded? I don't like the HX on the spacebar.
Yes, you can get them from Aliexpress
They're literally the exact ones HyperX uses
I got them like 5 years ago
been working fine for me
sorry
sad and empty channel
then again there's not much u can do to mod a full size keyboard
unless u made the stuff yourself
I have been modding my stabilizers, trying to get them not to rattle. Unfortunately, all the mods that remove the rattle, also make the keys sluggish. It seems just inherent to Cherry style stabilizers. I ended up degreasing them and applying minimal lube like the factory, in order to return to the original fast feel.
Wooting should rip off the stabilizer idea from the Keychron K1, which is basically a clip-in equivalent of the Costar stabilizer design. There is much less friction, because it eliminates the sliders.
As part of a larger redesign and optimization of the Discord, we're merging the two (soon to be three) modding threads into just using the channel as a whole.
We're keeping the threads open for replies shortterm, and will keep them archived for posterity longterm to allow for people to look up the mountains of knowledge and answers already present there.
Hope Y'all like the change 🙂
https://discord.com/channels/167181566978555904/984799440072220692