#two_he_modding

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dense ginkgo
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o/

quartz sage
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I should have taken some footage of the modding process for my 2 HE, now I am too lazy to open the keyboard again. So here it goes

Mods done:
Poured silicone resin 1:1 on both 2 HE case and keycaps
Neoprene foam between top plate and pcb(4mm) - 3.5mm would be ideal
Band aid mod to dampen downstroke for stabs
Teflon tape(plumbers tape) on stab wires - I overdid it a little and it's kinda a little mushy

Previous Mods
Neoprene foam for pcb and case(replaced by silicone and orignal case foam) - stripped two pcb standoff due to Neoprene being harder than original making it harder to screw PCB onto the case.

bold merlin
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Hi you wooting two modders. There seem to be a lot less than in the 60he thread. I hope someone can help me either way.
I am a total noob in the keyboard scene so I would love to hear some advice and see some pictures of two he's with pudding keycaps.

I get my keyboard around March and will get me some Keycaps till then.
I think about pudding keycaps and the following
https://www.caseking.de/traitors-inf-keycap-set-pbt-us-gakc-221.html

Does anyone have experience with these in the manner of of how the light will shine through or around?
Any suggestions on pudding keycaps? German layout if possible....

glad yew
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What gauge size is the wire used on the stabilizers?

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I want to replicate it

quartz sage
glad yew
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also which one of these materials would work best as a top plate? anything to avoid?

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I would go with stainless steel since they have the correct 1.5 mm thickness

quartz sage
glad yew
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this is to install a shorter spacebar (just moving the stabilizer positions)

quartz sage
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Top plate thickness tolerance if I remembered is +-0.1mm.
But closer to 1.5mm is ideal

glad yew
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nothing to do with sound

glad yew
quartz sage
glad yew
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my concern rn

quartz sage
glad yew
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no not screw

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as in mess withit

quartz sage
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🤔?

glad yew
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interfere with the magnetic field for example

quartz sage
glad yew
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different metals allow for different amount field penetration

quartz sage
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There are stainless steel that are non-ferromagnetic.
But wooting uses aluminium for their top plate for 2 HE

glad yew
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they only have the aluminum at 1.6 mm thickness

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so tat's a no go

quartz sage
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There are plates with 1.6mm thickness, but that is at the edge of what is allowable

glad yew
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Yeah i guess 1.6 would work

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I don't really mind losing .1 mm on the range lol

quartz sage
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If Wooting has silent linear lekker, I would have designed a case around the 60he pcb and get it fabricated in polycarbonate

glad yew
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The gap on right side should be bigger in my opinion

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which I could get by modifying the right spacebar stabilizer on the top plate. I will test as is for now

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I apologize if it looks absurd

glad yew
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I will explain some of my layout now

dark Blue = movement keys
Red = roughly, all other keys

glad yew
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Neutral hand position in FPS games; see picture below (3 finger movement). The reason this has merit is because it's the only way to "legally" be able to actuate Jump with right index, left thumb and additionally now pinky. In many games you want to bind jump on scroll-wheel and spacebar which can now be pressed by both the thumb and pinky (modern games usually only allow to keys max for bindings: Valorant, Apex Legends -no Config file, Doom eternal, CoD etc..). Hopefully I will post a video going in the details about this 1st optimization and how this new layout can supports many more FPS games, under one common base config

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it's tourney legal to be able to hack your spacebar down, right?

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The 2nd optimization is that the gap on the right side of the spacebar can be used to more easily access , and RightAlt (flicking). Compared to WASD, left thumb can press more keys.

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The 3rd optimization is using the CapsLock keycap in place of LAlt. This allows to dual press X + LeftAlt more easily. To make the necessary room, I remove the Windows key, which I would remove anyways to avoid accidentally interfering with my game. If large hands and you can reach the Windows key you can always remap w/ software and hack off the left side of the caps keycap to make room lol. Compared to default WASD the pinky can now press more keys than with.

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The 4th and final optimization regards the choice of leaving a column of keys between my movement keys of R = [Forward] and Y = [Right], those keys being 5 T and G. This is better than having an uninterrupted string of Movement keys (basically WASD-style) because it gives the player the valuable option of pressing 5, T and G with either index or middle finger, expanding your options during strafe gunfights

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These are the reasons I main this layout in FPS games

quartz sage
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Oh you basically want to shift the keys usage slightly to the right for fps mainly for ergonomic reasons?

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Your biggest enemy right now is spacebar being too left from where you normally pressing?

glad yew
glad yew
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Ideally, I would like to shorten the spacebar further

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My spacebar already has closer stabilizer stems. Now i have to either make a new top/switch plate to fit it or somehow modify the current plate

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Luckly this mod doesn't affect typing whatsoever

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For me at least

quartz sage
glad yew
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Sanded down spacebar so i can more easily reach N M and , without pressing spacebar accidentally

glad yew
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looks weird but I can play better so it's a W

glad yew
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But ideally, I would want the spacebar to straight up end underneath N probably

glad yew
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@trim lava any thoughts on ordering a wooting two he top plate from a manufacturers like sendcutsend.com? (this is an NA company so you may not be familiar) These are some of the options on the materials they offer (was thinking aluminium at 1.6 mm thickness (I know, it's +.1mm but I'm ok with that). Any metals to avoid maybe? Any feed back is appreciated #1037726692120203274 message

quartz sage
quartz sage
# glad yew I'll check them out, thanks 👍

Don't believe the auto quotation value, because they will claim that part is complex and increase price to reflect the complexity.
But otherwise other rapid prototyping companies will charge 2 - 3x more for the same part

trim lava
glad yew
wide musk
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#SplitTheSpacebar

earnest urchin
winter wyvern
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hey! so I pre ordered a two HE(really excited) and I’m trying to change the case to something more vintage, does anybody know any vintage cases that fit the wooting two?? or do I have to get that custom made??

terse quiver
# winter wyvern hey! so I pre ordered a two HE(really excited) and I’m trying to change the case...

There isn't really a standard mounting for full-size boards, so you won't easily find any other cases that will fit it. For custom making ones you can use the case model for reference on here: https://github.com/WootingKb/wooting-design

GitHub

Design and hardware files for Wooting keyboards. Contribute to WootingKb/wooting-design development by creating an account on GitHub.

winter wyvern
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does anyone know how long kbdfans tofu60 will take to arrive? it’s listed as pre order

ebon pollen
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8000 vs 65 messages, is now one modding the Two He?

wide musk
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The modifications most commonly shared have been paintjob, keycaps, and questions/progress about modifying the case

ebon pollen
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A list of successful mods keycaps... Wold be helpfull

quartz sage
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It is possible to build entirely new case using 2HE's pcb, but using other case from other manufacturer requires extensive modifications because there isn't a fixed standard regarding how one mounts the pcb and top plate

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The cost for designing and making a new case design with 2HE's pcb in mind is expensive.

verbal current
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Is there any benefit to burger mount using Wooting’s plastic case?

hexed ledge
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Does anybody know where I can get decent quality keycaps with a mac and german iso layout (if possible backlit)?

quartz sage
next elm
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Since I got my keyboard I've wanted to mod on multimedia keys. Finding the wooting STL's on Github today will make that a lot easier. I plan to make an Arduino media board that snaps onto the back of the board. It would be it's own device with it's own usb cable though.

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That, or I might take the easy way and just make a keyboard-mountable housing for a ready made USB volume controller

terse quiver
carmine flower
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Tofu60 White + GMK Minimal 2

mossy rose
primal basalt
mossy rose
gloomy tusk
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What kind of progress have people made in swapping the housing/case of the Two HE?
Is there any sorta proprietary sizing when it comes to full size or is it just luck if you find one that fits the PCB?
I know project files are on git and I think that'd be the best for certainty, but if anyone has found a full size that works it'd be cool if you sent it here.

vale palm
# mossy rose

nice one, how well do you see the north-facing leds shining through the south-facing keycaps?

vale palm
lone beacon
# mossy rose

One of my favorite cases! Amazing looking! I’m trying to find me a purple blade60 right now.

gloomy tusk
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Is there a typo on the wooting website for the two he? It says that the keyboard is 18 inches long but the cad files say it is only 17

wide musk
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Hmm check which variant of the Wooting two
The HE model is smaller I think?

gloomy tusk
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First picture is dimensions of cad file for bottom case of HE, 2nd is website listed size

narrow pond
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Hey does anyone here know if thr freebird 60 case will work with the wooting 60he?

manic citrus
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Hi! My Wooting has just shipped and I am thinking about spraying my stock case white. I’m wondering if anyone has done that yet?

tropic seal
wind plume
carmine flower
wind plume
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Where did you buy that case it’s out of stock everywhere

carmine flower
placid plank
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alright heres what i have ordered so far
keycaps : GMK Minimal 2
keyboard : Wooting 60HE
case : Fjell White
lube : Krytox 205g0
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Does anyone know some coiled cables that would look good with this

vagrant elk
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hey guys, got a TWO HE and just like tofu 60 for the 60he i am thinking to try the keychron Q6 case on my TWO He. Anyone tried any metal case on the TWO HE?

tired aspen
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Finished modding my 60he

jagged stream
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Darn was hoping to see more two he mods in here 😔

winter wyvern
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Swapped all keycaps except for numpad

gloomy tusk
shell basin
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i put it in my tofu60 case and it feels much better

wide musk
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Tofu sales must have enjoyed 60HE's release

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Such a popular case and good fit with the Wooting wrist rest

wide musk
shell basin
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nah

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i got my tofu60 back in 2019

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which took like 6 months to deliver

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it was a really'solid case but the pcb the kit came with only had enough mounting screws for 3 so it was really shit to play osu with

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the foam that the wooting comes with it super awesome

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it makes it feel so much better in the tofu case which is hella thick

harsh basin
quartz sage
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I am waiting for silent lekker switches to pop up. Then may look into custom case for 2he.

For now I spent most of my spare savings on building a 65% silent keyboard with custom polycarbonate case design

marsh dagger
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Hey guys im new to modding keyboards. i just ordered the Wooting two HE (hopefully it will have the ARM chip?) what keycaps should I look for?

ocean palm
haughty ether
jagged stream
marsh dagger
ocean palm
marsh dagger
ocean palm
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xda or dsa profile would be most similar

marsh dagger
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alright thanks 😄 ill worry about a diffrent case later after i get the keyboard.

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Idk what "sound" I want out the keyboard idk enough yet.

normal prawn
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My 60he will be here on Monday (wooo), I am modding it and I think I have most of the bases covered, however I want to use my grey gmmk keycaps, which way up do the switches need to be?

exotic hedge
marsh dagger
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any cases for the two he?

wide musk
ivory vapor
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I suppose that's a silver lining for me since I'm completely new to anything related to custom keyboards and was worried about falling into that rabbit hole and spending more money than I reasonably should

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Had i gotten the 60he I probably would have fallen in

idle brook
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Can someone with akko keycaps please post a pic of their board with rgb on? Kinda conflicted between the cyan and blacks or instead getting shine through caps. I want to see how much of the light bleeds out around them.

atomic cloak
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Hi guys, I'm new to modding keyboards! Quick question, are the lekkar switches hot swappable on keyboards other than my wooting 60he? Would the rapid trigger work as well? Thanks!!

ivory vapor
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I'm no expert, I'm fairly sure you need to use the pcb that came with the board, but I think it will fit in a lot of the popular 60% cases

edgy glade
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Got my 60he, put it in a LI'L Dragon case with some old drop keycaps I had around. Doesn't sound to bad after lubing the switches and re-lubing the stabs. LI'L Dragon case only required a bit of modification to use it is the same as the BURGER.WORKS box60 case

wide musk
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If you have 60HE related topics, do post them in the #996573707235491950 thread instead of here pretty please

We would like to keep #1037726692120203274 thread on topic for the few brave two HE modders

limber jolt
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Not sure if this would be considered a mod but I designed and 3d printed a joystick

jagged stream
ivory vapor
grave turtle
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How does it preform?

round inlet
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Anyone know the plate file for the wooting frog mini?

earnest steppe
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Can you put the Wooting Two HE PCB in the Apex 3 or 7 case? dogekek

ivory vapor
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I highly doubt it since it's a non standard format

storm dagger
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unless they miraculously use tue same mounting system for the pcb and topplate no

sly bough
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Tofu 60 + GMK analog dreams 2!!

storm dagger
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@sly bough @supple radish wrong channel. this is for 2he. you wanna post that in the 60he modding channel

supple radish
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@storm dagger sorry, i deleted my post 🙂

zenith nova
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is there a list of compatible cases for the two he?

gaunt sentinel
zenith nova
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alrighty thx

vivid halo
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So no list of compatible cases, but does anyone have some good recommendations? Honestly never been a fan of the switches being exposed like how the Two HE is, it gets dirty so much easier than the other way around. Easier to clean though, but still.

gaunt sentinel
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No as in - No compatible cases, period.

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You'll have to go fully custom.

vivid halo
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??? Bizzaire, I saw in a review video saying it used a standard layout and was compatible with most cases

gaunt sentinel
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What was specifically?

vivid halo
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The PCB

gaunt sentinel
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That's... for the 60HE.

vivid halo
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I just assumed the Two HE would follow the same design philosophy, my mistake.

gaunt sentinel
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The 60HE was designed around a popular standard of DIY kits, the GH60/DZ60. Which the custom keyboard community did over time. We just piggybacked onto that.

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There's no similar community for full sized keyboard.s

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So you would be starting from scratch basically. We have the case design files on github, but you would have to adapt it to whichever material you wish and have it custom made 🙂

vivid halo
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Thanks for your input.

ivory vapor
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I'm partially glad for this, I won't be tempted to spend more on mine other than keycaps and lube

gaunt sentinel
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It would be cool to see someone create a custom alu case for the 2HE. It would be heavy though 😄

vivid halo
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Cause I need lube or is it factory lubed?

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Does that mean I got lube, but I'm not exactly excited for the process if I don't have to do it

gaunt sentinel
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NEED? No. Does lubing improve the feel and sound? Yes.

vivid halo
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So doesn't come factory lube though?

gaunt sentinel
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Not the same as handlubing it.

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No lube < Factory lubed < Handlubed (invest 4-5 hours)

gaunt sentinel
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WN_-GYLTfpY

It's up to you whether investing several hours is worth it or not

Always wondered how you can lubricate your lekker switches or grease your stabilizer wire. In this video, we will deep dive on different methods of lubing and some general tips and tricks. Using the Wooting 60HE.

Krytox GPL 205G0 and Molykote EM-50L lubricant:
https://region.wooting.store/products/lubrication-set-krytox-205g0-molykote-em-50l

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ivory vapor
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I'm new to custom keyboard shenanigans as it is, so the difference is probably lost on me. I used a corsair k70 for the past eight/ nine years and never considered a new keyboard until I decided to upgrade my entire setup after building a new pc in December, which also replaced a partially eight year old pc.

gaunt sentinel
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Tirade over in #996573707235491950 knows a ton, so definitely look over there even if you're thinking of modding the 2HE. Only the case swap is a 60HE only thing, everything else is model agnostic.

vale fractal
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excuse the coffee stain, but yeah. poseidon case w/ CannonKeys’ BRG keycaps (white ones) and blank black keycaps from amazon

vivid halo
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I can' tbelieve you managed to fit an entire full sizeinto that case.

storm dagger
vale fractal
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oops

grave jackal
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Hey, I am soon receiving my two HE!

I ordered krytox 205go for the switches and Permatex dielectric for the stabs.

I know that he kb is factory lubed, but I don't need to clean the switches before applying additional lube.

But what about the stabs?

Do I need to clean them before adding the dielectric grease?

grave jackal
gaunt sentinel
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Since the lube isn't just inside but on the wires themselves.

grave jackal
gaunt sentinel
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The stabilizer itself? The plastic part with the stem?

grave jackal
gaunt sentinel
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WN_-GYLTfpY

I will have to defer to Calder. Been a while since I lubed my board 😄

Always wondered how you can lubricate your lekker switches or grease your stabilizer wire. In this video, we will deep dive on different methods of lubing and some general tips and tricks. Using the Wooting 60HE.

Krytox GPL 205G0 and Molykote EM-50L lubricant:
https://region.wooting.store/products/lubrication-set-krytox-205g0-molykote-em-50l

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grave jackal
gaunt sentinel
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The cleaning is just me trying to avoid getting it everywhere. I did it on my deskmat in front of my PC while watching Netflix.

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And since I have two cats, I wanted to avoid any spills they could accidentally touch and lick.

grave jackal
gaunt sentinel
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No clue - I used the Krytox/Molykote mix that the board also has from the factory.

grave jackal
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Humm ok :/.

Finger crossed then ^^.

I heard some people here used permatex, so it should be fine I guess.

gaunt sentinel
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Worst case the grease gets weird and you redo it.

grave jackal
ashen radish
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Just got my keyboard as well, is it okay to use 205 g0 for the springs and stabs or should I buy something else

gaunt sentinel
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Too thin for stabs imo

ashen radish
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Any recommendation on what use then?

gaunt sentinel
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We use and sell Molykote EM-50L, which is a commonly used grease.

ashen radish
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Tyvm

dawn sphinx
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love my new Wooting two he

gaunt sentinel
vivid halo
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Im once again impressed by people managing to fit a full size keeb into a 60% case

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I assume the other keys are on the bottom

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Must've sawed the PCB in twain.

dawn sphinx
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if somebody knows where to find iso german white pbt pudding keycaps, write something

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i bought a wooting two he on ebay and desoldered it

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then cut the pcb in half

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no just kidding, wrong thread my bad

vivid halo
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Shame, that'd be a neat project.

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Amazing, it wouldn't void your warranty either!

gaunt sentinel
ivory vapor
strong sable
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does the keyboard once you order it come pre-lubed?

gaunt sentinel
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Factory lubed, yes.

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Not to be confused with hand lubing.

strong sable
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ahh thank you! :]

storm dagger
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wrong channel. might wanna post that in the 60he one

jagged barn
charred prairie
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Are there any compatible aluminum cases for wooting 2he?

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ABS case really sucks tbh.

ivory vapor
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Nope

vivid halo
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It's quite the shame

gaunt sentinel
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All we need is a brave individual with CNC access and some knowhow. 😄

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It's a lot easier to replicate a known working model than inventing it.

ivory vapor
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Wish I had the knowhow

hazy hound
ivory vapor
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Because there's not

hazy hound
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Sadly yes

charred prairie
gaunt sentinel
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CNC, Milling. I'm not an engineer. I don't know the exact process used to produce cases like the Tofu 🙂

wind plume
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just got gmk minimal 2, fjell white case, custom stabalizers, wooting

ivory vapor
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Gonna guess you mean for the 60 HE

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This channel is for the Two HE

grave jackal
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Hey, I just got my two HE !

Since the stabs' stems (not the wires) aren't lubbed (which I didn't expect), what kind of lube do I use for them?

Gpl 205 ?

gaunt sentinel
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The stabilizers are definitely lubed.

grave jackal
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Ho you're right, there is indeed a bit of lube at the bottom of the stem which must be the wire !

I just thought I'd seen a bit of lube on the attach/cross section too in the videos ^^.

gaunt sentinel
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Anyway I won't pretend to be an expert on modding or lube but... We use one of the most popular choices, Molykote EM-50L.

grave jackal
gaunt sentinel
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In the housing? For that I would use 205g0

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#corporateShill

grave jackal
gaunt sentinel
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Stabilizers have two components.

The wires and the housing. I assumed you were asking about putting lube in the housing around the stem piece that slides up and down?

grave jackal
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Ok, then no prob I'll brush them with 205 whenever I receive it ^^.

Also, any tips If I have difficulties unscrewing the keyboard with that puny little guy?

gaunt sentinel
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What screw head is that exactly?

grave jackal
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It's a 4 head that fits well in the screw (with a tiny bit of rattling), but I don't have the exact label ^^'.

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I just feel like the screw are super tight

gaunt sentinel
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Then I am unable to help 😄

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It needs to be a Philips PH0

grave jackal
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I think I'll order one 😅

vivid halo
# grave jackal Ok, then no prob I'll brush them with 205 whenever I receive it ^^. Also, any t...
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I recommend this little kit if you can find it. Has everything under the sun.

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Really good if you like to tinker, you never know WHAT your electronic device is gonna have

gaunt sentinel
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Was about to say - Having a kit like iFixit's Mako is great for very broad work if you intend to do more than one thing. I've had mine for years and it always has the most obscure bits I need for whatever 😄

vivid halo
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Yep, it's absolutely worth the price

grave jackal
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Ah ah, I mean I do have my old kit my grandpa gave me when I was a kid, but I'll think about it ^^.

gaunt sentinel
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You might be able to get away with the NO1 bit.

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But it will be slightly too large, so maybe don't risk it 😄

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Stripping a screw in something like this SUCKS.

grave jackal
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Tournevis à bout philips PH0 https://amzn.eu/d/dsQBQNi

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For now, I'll stick with that one i think?

vivid halo
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I stripped a screw on my CPU heatsink

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Very stressful time getting that off.

grave jackal
gaunt sentinel
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The screwdriver itself? Yeah it's for general purpose on larger things. But the head itself is right.

grave jackal
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Aight, I'll look for ph0 heads, thx guys!

grave jackal
gaunt sentinel
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Ah yeah that'll be difficult to screw with 😄

grave jackal
sonic turtle
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Hey guys, just got my Two HE yesterday. Unfortunately, I am experiencing stab rattle. I have lubed previous keyboards with cherry-style stabilizers (Logitech G610 and Corsair K70), and gotten rid of all the rattle, but these Gateron/Durock style stabs are kicking my ass. I tried different keycaps, checked the wires for balance, tried swapping the entire stabilizers for Durock clip-ins I had lying around, but I still get a bit of rattle. What am I missing?

storm dagger
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just pack em full of molykote

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ez

grave jackal
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Got my 205g0, I'll lube my kb tomorrow:D.

zealous shore
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Does anyone know about pudding keycaps similar to the HyperX but they are unbranded? I don't like the HX on the spacebar.

left kindle
ivory vapor
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Looks nice, though

left kindle
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sorry

ivory vapor
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You're not the first, won't be the last lol

dull burrow
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sad and empty channel

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then again there's not much u can do to mod a full size keyboard

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unless u made the stuff yourself

ivory vapor
sonic turtle
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I have been modding my stabilizers, trying to get them not to rattle. Unfortunately, all the mods that remove the rattle, also make the keys sluggish. It seems just inherent to Cherry style stabilizers. I ended up degreasing them and applying minimal lube like the factory, in order to return to the original fast feel.

Wooting should rip off the stabilizer idea from the Keychron K1, which is basically a clip-in equivalent of the Costar stabilizer design. There is much less friction, because it eliminates the sliders.

gaunt sentinel
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As part of a larger redesign and optimization of the Discord, we're merging the two (soon to be three) modding threads into just using the channel as a whole.

We're keeping the threads open for replies shortterm, and will keep them archived for posterity longterm to allow for people to look up the mountains of knowledge and answers already present there.

Hope Y'all like the change 🙂

https://discord.com/channels/167181566978555904/984799440072220692