#🔧│keyboard_modding
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yeah stem spacers will probably help
Knight V2s were the last long pole stabs from Swagkeys, but you’re better off getting the spacers as everyone else has said
I actually already have the geon spacers. The problem is they shorten the effective length of stem that grips the key and end up making the issue of the stems pulling themselves out of the keycaps even worse
How do I tighten it?
stem spacers will help cause itll force the keycap to not go down on one side
so it cant get uneven on the stab
nothing you can really do tbh other than get different caps
fuuuuuuuuuuuckkkkk
1.7mm thick pbt
I need to make the stems fit into the keys better somehow
Gn
Gn lander
what brand
I don't even know. They were the keys that came on my EVO80
Ok
Those should be fine
Just wait till you have the spacers and see if that fixes things
If you still have issues come back here and we can see if there‘s something else you should do
I already have the spacers
The problem is that they cause the stems of the stabs to grip the keys so weakly that they still pop out
I've used these keys on other stabs and never had this issue before
this prob means ur space has loose stems
Yeah but idk how to fix that
Yeah try a diff bar
not rly much besides a saran wrap thing u can do
Also, check if there‘s damage on the keycap
With that said tho only the keys that take stabs are the real problem. So any set with ISO kitting would work
None of the other keys have this issue
I guess it's worth a try. It's not going to harm anything
like the hole of the keycap is not sitting right on the stab?
Are there any cracks or similar on the inside of the keycaps?
It's not that the stems aren't aligned with the holes. The problem is that even with the spacers, the keys still rock back and forth a little. And the grip the stems have on the keys is too weak as the spacers inherently decrease the area of engagement between the stems and the key holes
No there's no obvious damage
And all the keys that take stabs, like the spacebar, shift key, enter and the backspace key are all as bad as each other
I doubt they're all damaged the exact same way
And you dont have any spare keycaps at all?
yea try to cut a small piece of cling wrap and push it in slightly and put on the keycap see if that fixs it
I think I'll give that a go
I do, I'd just rather use these since I quite like them
Well, trying the others out wouldn't hurt
I guess not
Try the others and see if they have the same problem
I have some KKB Helleborus caps. I'll go try those. I even have some virgin spacebars in that kit which have never seen a stem in their life.
Cause if they do, it‘s (probably) not a keycap issue
tearing this board apart to access the stabs will be a chore. Oh well
why are u takin the board apart
for HE it should be a lot easier
you just have to unscrew the plate and pull up with the switches
u just need to replace the space key
I'm using a different set of stabs for now until i fix this problem
to make the keyboard usable
wait so did the other keycap work or
I'm gonna tear the keyboard down to swap over to the knight v4 stabs to test
i want to use the knight v4 stabs specifically because they're clear
and i plan to use clear novelty keys
it's just an aesthetic thing
the weird thing is that the YIKB stabs work perfectly. It's only when I try knight V4's that this problem arose
Maybe their stems are slightly different
i know they are inherently different because the YIKB's use a special curved stabiliser wire
and the knights use a standard wire with only 90 degree bends on each end
stabs are such a pain in the ass
Just checking in now but you got keycap and stab tolerance issue?
yeah that's what i'm trying to figure out
What keycap and stabs?
all of them. Spacebar, shift, enter and backspace
No like what stabilizers
YIKB?
Need keycap recommendations for a pure black/wood setup
And what keycap sets
I'm trying to make Knight V4's work on my 80HE but the problem is every key that takes a stab rocks back and forth on the key like a seesaw. To the point that the stab stems pull out of the keys. All the keys that take stabs do this, not just the space bar. I'm using a 1.7mm thick PBT set from my EVO80 and UFO's.
Do you have a video demo?
I will when I have this board apart. But people keep asking questions. 😅
Lol sorry
Just a diagonisis stage rn before I start making a hypothesis
I'll get on with it then

Theres a lot of possibilities of what's going on but I dont want to start guessing and waste your time 
does the POM + poron wooting mod kit work if I move to gt80 case?

the only caveat is you may need to supply your own case foam and cut it to size yourself. I just grabbed a poron sheet from amazon
I grab the kit from keybay instead of torontokeyboardman - is there a big difference? did I messed up
nah. They're the same product.
ok thanks, I only am using the plastic case for now though, not sure if upgrade is worth it
I have a couple to compare them now
Just give them a second to upload
any suggestions?
Just a few things
I would just stick with the YIKBs for now
And if you haven't already, test if any of the other keycaps work fine with the Knight stabs or not. If it doesn't then it would most def be a stab issue especially with the stem mold.
Just going based on how you pull out your keycap from your stabs, the knights seems noticeable more loose, and my guess would either be from the stem from the keycap being too big or the stem mold of the stab being too small. But I think the keycap is fine since the tolerance on the YIKB is much more tighter than the knights.
Won't really go into conclusions until you do some more troubleshooting by testing more keycaps onto the stabs
should I put my old tikkens into the 80hev2
im considering it as a secondary board
oop yeah then that's all keycaps then
Ceram wrap would only fill in the gap between the keycap and stem
It won't guarantee a tighter fit
I think you mixed something up, 80hev2? 
I mean the 80he lmao
nah bru whatchu mean
he got the 80he v2 split

The simplest solution would be to just use the YIKB stabs for that spacebar since it works fine. And the Knights for the novelty enter and backspace keys that I plan to use later
best way to go at it
yeah, that would be a fair compromise
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Obviously but they use a carrier and I was wondering if anyone had any input on how long their order took
For real. I might end up going with the full kit after all. They look amazing
with the purple GT80 case
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Thanks for the proper response I appreciate it
I ordered a holy80 and it’s been stuck in their warehouse for 5 days I’m definitely going to customer support
I have all Cullinans in it now.
No worries!
where'd you get enough cullinans for that lol
Keybay
I have a crap ton of extra Nova now. I'm going to put them in my v2 non-split when I swap plates to put it in the Zoom64.
nice haha
ugh, still waiting on mine showing up
still undecided if FR4 or CF would sound better with them
There's not much of a difference in sound between the 2.
the poron plate foam does make a huge diffeence
FR4 and Poron.
Using the poron case foam too?
Yes
Film?
Plate and case
Nice
I have mine set up basically the same way
I added another layer of tape but it didn't make a big difference
Poron fits ok in the gt80?
Yes
Saw something about fitment issues
It fits in the case fine
It was a little tight in the zinc case
It fits fine for the most part. Maybe a little bit over hanging.
Sound test?
Never heard of these switches, what’s special about them? :>
One thing I also did to my GT80 case is modify the force break. I found the silicone rubber feet built into the GT80 still make the top half of the case a bit pingy
So I bought some 1mm thick adhesive-backed weather stripping foam and lined it all the way around the top half of the case on the underside
And that got rid of the ping
Nova for comparison. Same gain and mic position.
cullinans are definitely better
The Nova test agrees with my experience with them too. They sound flat and dead as a doornail
They were nice switches just not for me
Some people like muted
Typeplus stabs are the most stable besides maybe fourwraps
I like the sound of the Nova a lot. I like the Diamonds a lot too. Not obnoxiously loud, but have more noise. I have to use them more before I decide which I like more.
they are indeed
Also they don't add much if any friction
They are a bit clacky but it's worth it
The kitting is also top notch
Love that little box
It's got heckin magnets
Knight clip ins early May 👀
lowkey temped to get a F4R plate to finish it off
Go CF plate 😛
oooof
Im so tempted, but I dont even use the 80he, its just sitting around
might get a 60hev2 plate tho
👀
I just got new switches and stabs set
I used the left over stabs on the 80he and the old tikken switches
so the financial responsibility says no, but I mean
I could use a new plate to get the RGB to reflect off well, I already love the sound of FR4 plate
FR4 half plate 🤤
this is on fr4 plate?
Yes
Why is fr4 plate the new meta
I got it because the PC plate was too soft for my liking. I like the sound of PC more, I just don’t like the feel of it. I may get a CF plate for my 80HE, but it would be purely for cosmetic reasons. I have CF in both of my 60 v2’s. I can’t tell a difference in sound or feel over FR4 that they come with. But it sure looks cool.
are UFO's bottom out force 50g? or is operation force = bottom out aswell?
Omg mr beast
I'm wondering if I should get a pom plate
long time no see
what next mods do you plan to do with your board
6 or 7 layer tape mod
oh wait time to upgrade my shitbox of a keyboard (lucky65 v2)
i have like 3 dif type of swithces in the board
and mismatched keycaps set on there
Nova's work better with a thicker keycap set
40 initial 50 bottom out, but they feel heavier than that tbh
This happens with my GMK spacebar, for me it's even worse so I just use small piece of tape on stabilizer stems to make it tighter. Works well
does aluminum split space bar sound different from a normal aluminum space bar ?
yes
split space will always sound diff than norm space
I have yet to find a thick set I liked the feel of. I think I prefer the lighter ones because of the texture. I have cerakeys and some thicker Drop sets. The smoothness of them makes me cringe. Maybe I'd be happy with the matte cerakeys.
Or at least I like the feeling of the KKB keys. I tend to gravitate towards their sets on all of my keyboards.
@glacial wind the reverb you talked about on diamonds can be reduced by spring swapping to og flux springs
shafie suggested it after I already lubed 70 cullinan springs
Just swap to 90g springs. Can’t reverb if you can’t push switches down

I used to use 70g springs in jade knights and I still have a pack of lekker 100 lying around lol
better late than never
I just checked the price and shipping. The shipping is minimum $34.44 - that's more than the kit itself 😭
now its safe to say this switch is ass
Living up to your name, Patoot
you could supply your own toots every time you press it
What is the difference between 40gf v 50gf v 60gf ?
lower number = lighter to press
for reference, old cherry mx switches are roughly 60g
Ahh i see
Right now i fat finger my stock wooting 80he
I think stock is the lekker v2 switches
So i would say that 40gf is a no go for me the
I shall see what the gf for the lekker medium switches are
Oh so apparently the medium switches are also 42mm starting.
So ill probably pick the geon raw and wait for the new zinc cases to come out
starting is not ending force just fyi. Geon raw list ending force
40g is a bottom out FYI
their initial force is around 27g
Oh damn
Lekker L60 = 60g, the 60 means the ending force
60g Raw is heavier than L60 v2, initially
45g vs 40g
Also what is that price 
$140 for 90 Raws?

Yes
Australia price in a nutshell
Modding the wooting is almost at the same price as buying it stock
Lol
Yeah ill have a look on there
I think with the wrist rest i dont fat finger any keys when gaming at 0.4 actuation
But without it its fat fingering galore lmao
Anyway, im just looking around till the new zinc case is out and hopefully i will begin my modding journey
My end goal is to hopefully have the keyboard sounding a bit mute but creamy.
Quiet enough to avoid disturbing the lil ones at night
You probably won't like Raws then, they're a bit loud and clacky
Yeah, thats like another thing im worried about too
Do you have 80HE?
Because like i wasnt that big of a fan of the wooting 80he sound tests stock in the videos. But after i got the keyboard the sound was very different to what it sounded like in the videos
Yeah, 80he
I actually liked how it sounded lol
I think you should try Tikkens. They are heavier than L60 initially
If they're still too light for you, you can order heavier Lekker springs and spring swap Tikkens
Wooting Lekker Tikken Medium Switches Description The Lekker Tikken switch was designed as a slightly muted, deeper-sounding alternative to current HE switches, offering a closed-bottom build while still preserving the full 4mm travel for precision based games. Fully closed-bottom – Closed bottom housing reduces chatte
Yeah, and this https://ausmodshop.com/products/wooting-lekker-switch-spring-packs?variant=47392534528254, but 70-80g is out of stock atm
I see - it looks like the L70s may be the way to go if the tikken medium switches are still too light
ty for the help - ill save these
Yep, you'll probably like Tikkens with 70g springs. Also they're not loud like Raws
if i do have to swap springs that would mean I would need to lube them too right
Springs? Preferably
i feel like i'm taking crazy pills i dont find raws that loud at all
compared to Tikkens they are a bit loud imo
hm would have to try, i have an 80HE with raws and PC plate and it's a lot quieter than the other one i have with fr4 plate and tikkens, but maybe it's the plate that makes the tikkens louder
yeah plate
i guess that makes sense
denser plate generally means louder/brighter sound
theres a lube and molykote set on ausmodshop - whats the molykote set used for?
Wooting Switch Lube Set (Krytox 205G0 & Molykote EM-50L) 2-in-1 Lube set The perfect lube set for your mechanical switches and stabilizers. If you need switch tools for opening and lubricating the switches, you can combine it with the ://blank's switch toolkit for a discount. Wooting's lubricant set includes: 10g (
Molykote is for stabilizer wires, not for switches
For springs you need gpl 105 or 205g0
it does mention stabiliser wire, wasnt too sure what that meant
the wire that connects the left and right stab on long keys like spacebar
PC plate mutes like 90% of the sound of the board so checks out
guys i've kinda missed new switch releases, are all those diamonds etc better than ufos?
or more of a sidegrade at best

@calm pulsar
))))

After trying so many switches finally found the best for me, Ur ice Ultra. I will recommend this so anyone who plays cs2.
ice ultras are nice, cheap and good
https://discord.com/channels/167181566978555904/1498652879597338694 another one falling to gateron propaganda

pls when will we get automod for jades that puts people in time out and forces them to watch an informational video on why jades arent good
Real
Then we can add kois to the list

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you when shafie mentions ||grey||
Keycaps too
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Question, does anyone know if Wooting offers replacement feet for the Alumaze60 case?
Because I lost mine in travel, and now the board is annoying as hell to type on 
they probably do, email them
alternatively you can get bump-on silicone feet
bumpons would be useless in this case :,)
Cuz the bottom ones raise it pretty high already
you could remove all feet and stick bumpons to any location, but better ask wooting for replacement feet
Aight, which email do I mail em at?
Pick the category and issue you need help with, and we'll guide you through the process.
Awesome, thanks.
Wait, I won this case at a keyboard meetup so I dont have an order number
So I wont be able to fill out the form properly since I havent had an order with this case in it
205 on springs is giga cursed
just wondering if someone have put wooting pcb on kbdcraft lego case like adam or lilith
@sacred elm unless donut dipping its so much effort doing 205 vs just bag lubing with 105
Hmm, not sure then. You can try checking "My order is not listed", then type Alumaze there and explain your situation to support
Can't guarantee they'll help without the order # but you can try
I see. Wooting themselves were at the meetup as well so if needed I can probably seek help in a way from the event organiser if this falls through
ive got stiff, arthritis type sort of left hands. that they actually feel alright to me hahah those lighter switchers feel too sensitive after trying out ufos. looking to try out something else like owlabs, or raptor he v2 for a lighter one
hi i'm looking to commission a wooting 60he+ build in a kbdfans holy60 white case. does anyone know a good website/place to go for build services like that with also the usual mods like foam and switch lubing too? i just don't have the time or want to mod one myself so wondering if that's something common people do/offer
You dont need hand lubed switches
Building a 60he+/v2 in holy60 is a thing you can do very quickly
With the money you save on hiring someone to do it for you, you could upgrade from a 60he+ to a v2
Doesn’t really exist much in western world, but honest if it’s a v2 it would take literally 10-15 mins to build a custom Wooting nowadays
Foam mods are not necessary as we pre modded all the foam and tape etc for you with the module sandwich already
China has a ton of shops that would do it for you though, but mod shops are much more rare in western countries
where are you based?
united kingdom
im from france but im in the uk for the next like 2 months with family
It barely takes any time to simply drop the module in the case, stick the switches in the plate and put the keycaps in
The time it would take to merely consult someone to do this for you would be more than simply doing it yourself
has anyone ever tried the Pantheonkeys x SquashyBoy switches?
They’re mostly just a modified raptor v2 style switch from Hmx
Not bad but not what most would consider top tier either
they are stupid expensive if you live in Europe or NA, Ive been meaning to try em
appearntly theres gonna be a group buy soon for those markets so fingers crossed
Any1 know if there are any Rakka60 PCBs available in Europe?
you can try buying it out of japan
otherwise its just china or using forwarders/resellers
New case time (soon)
not even silver frog smh
black on black does it for me
I cant find a Vendor tho only rabbit but its sold out
Aliexpress Shop does not work for me here in Europe
Gn

did you eat the case foot

son needs his calcium
I immediately thought it was too good to be HE
But what could it be 

What could the first and second video be

I guess 1st vid is this switch
HMX sunset gleams yes
The second video is Koi HE 
fake news
Deadah
LMAO
On my life
I will do a full board of kois on my neo65
Just to see how it sounds

hi all, i was gonna pick up a wooting 80he module with lekker tikken switches since my current kb broke but unfortunately theyre out of stock till june 30th. What other switches would u all recommend?
must be that MX pcb sounds better

JUST to prove that if the bottom out frequency is high enough, it can mask the top out like an HMX switch.
Anybody knows, if when you use pe foam on top of the pcb, like in the torontokeyboardman modding kit. That you use something in the software that it doesn't affect performance? like switch and spacer setting!?!
@cloud crane
Nothing you can do, PE foam on the PCB will always affect the accuracy
I can see how that can be a thing
HE might still be a bit more noticeable cause the stem is bigger and might produce more sound
Thats true, volume wise based on surface area and contact, the volume would be more open and accentuated making it a bit more noticeable
Alright, thank you. Thought you could fix it with the software somehow. So i willl not use it.
oh shi you got culls?
yea
who up rn carboning they fiber
my fiber is already carboned
but is your carbon fibered
what is this goop crodie
my carbon is fibering the carboned fibers
jade maxes on CF plate smh
the promised jade max
The Carboning Fibering
7u skibidi space bar too
woah
what happened to you @calm pulsar
skibidu?
scooby doo
)
ive looked through that
already
Stability wise yes
🐴 represent
dumb to overthink abt this lowkey ima just go with the tikkens off a 3rd party
Begone silicone
based
With the silicone not beint attached and all on the sides
My rage knows no bounds
Either it goes well or Mr mark gets my post card early
Vella80 )
ngl kinda scared to cut my poron
not like im gonna use this anyway but
@calm pulsar
maybe a different mx switch would be better to compare
but im too lazy to go through my closet and find one
soundwise not even that far tbh, MX is a bit clearer and marblier I think still, and the topout is similar on spacebar
yeeeap
color me impress
tho sunset gleams are pretty thin and bright
@little glen imma be real
Just never use the silicone gasket
It’ll be easier that way 😭
legit turbo ass
REAL
legit cant get 80HE to sound better than my vella with ocean hearts
i don't think i can make this 80he sound and feel any better to me than it currently does but i did order a ghost bar from nuphy
@glacial wind I did not care for the Jades compared to the deep clacky
I still like the poseidons unfortunately
we failed the experiment with this one?
unfortunately 
i prefer it more but you legit gotta not run any silicone to make it work
vs vella is super marbly
i think its wraps
whats your current build on bella and 80he
Geon case and plate foam, alu and hoecians heart on Lazurite
clacky and poppy type shii
what the fuck are switch names
is that even possible
80HE is now CF plate + poron gasket but idk

sorry bababababababao oceans heart
i dont make the names i just roll with it 
by buying the poron gasket like ive been telling you saiyan
sacrifices have to be made
but i collected all the dragon balls
or dont buy diamonds for silicone use
yeah maybe keep dcf
i dont think silicone plays well with double PC housing
silicone ass cheeks in general but if you got a keyboard full of it its cringe af
as a canadian you should be sticking to 60% )
itd be nice to have one right now
i want a tkl
yea but it felt like something was missing and got tired of tofu
with 80he i been loving it beside the silicone gasket
i dont want to go back to 60%
🫵 
i guess its PBT and CF plate for 80HE lyfe
bella propaganda
jumpscare
cring
so we're raw dogging the switches now
bro ain't even got caps
He touching diamonds with his bare hands.. he rich
you've heard of plateless now prepare for capless
bring out the one color keycaps so i get triggered
caseless plateless capless
I like it raw
just a pcb and some switches
alr bud
if you dont know where your keys are its just a skill issue
Nahh you forgot switchless, just use a magnet 
next thing you're going to say you like PBT for the sound
magnet only gaming
Jade pros
best sound
In the trash can
tuff
seriously are pbt plates a real thing
now you didnt have to ruin a string of jokes like that😭
))

hey guys quick question, is the friction fit pad for the 60HE compatible with the ISO layout?
yes
coool
More 60v2 plate variants: for non split, black carbon with gold/purple flecks and forged carbon, for split, just forged carbon
Also pink
I asked them to make more split plates the other day, and that's how they respond
)))))
what happened to the dragonball logo 
launching on the ws site soon, price per unit is $1.2 for the buy3get2, $1.5 for the buy64get20
That’s nice. So they are doing the China launch pricing
cullinans on CF plate with gmk keycaps is very nice
gotta drop dat sound test 
I will record a video soon, maybe will do v2 case and frog mini, but for frog I need to wait for the conductive sponge to arrive for grounding
rawdog it 
The quantity choices are so bad for these sadly
@calm pulsar did you see my clicky caps lock key 
cheaper on keybay too lol
@young viper ^

its beri clicky 
thats was yours on 80he?
yeah lol

Goofish is cheap, but they have 68 max there too, even with our sample packs, thats a few keys short...
i dont even know
it just… does it
i swapped switches
and it does the same thing
i do genuinely think its the plate
im forever cursed with clicky mods and clicky spacebar 
maybe the switch is moving around in the plate lol
is it a single slot capslock?
and how easy are you able to take out the switch?
wat
nvm
i just noticed it was your 80he
https://youtu.be/rwDd1WGN2M0
Can frog mini regain its aura 
Still goated.
Keyboard: Geonworks Frog Mini WKL Green
Switches: SP-Star Meteor White V2 (Tribosys 3203)
Plate: Polycarbonate
Springs: TX 60g XL (Krytox 105)
Films: N/A
Stabilizers: Swagkeys Knight V3 stems in Cherry clip-in housings (XHT-BDZ)
Keycaps: GMK Modern Materials - Stone
Artisan: skacaps Bone Thoccs-n-harmony
The Frog Mini was my fir...
i need to use puller and quite a bit of force
yk how like some plates come with like stepped caps and normal caps
so they have to make the hole bigger
rather than just one?
anyways
yeah youre def cursed 
i see bumpon feets 
Bumpons goated
when did it lose aura
I'm just kidding 
nice build, I love the frog color, but caps are kinda out of place for this color imo
frick pc plate
Lol
negative aura
this one isnt my fault
received the PBTfans with cherry profile
insane difference compared to OEM
the cherrys are definitely my type, didnt know it made that big of a difference
thank you guys for the recommendations here ❤️
so good news and bad news for those old neo lavender fans
good news we confirmed they are not clones of gateron jade using our machine testing. Bad news they perform worse than the og gateron jades lol
hey bad news for them good news for my jades 
why are their quantities so weird 😭
How does this keep happening to you!
Dam(a)n
that looks cool but maybe a little overdesigned
i'll need to see some more angles of it

agreed but maybe a bit smaller bezels for the 80he version
another square looking one which is nice, but again with too many extra details that put off lol
might leave my tikkens behind in the near future, the top out rattle squelch ain't my jam
will miss the 4mm travel tho
if you're using stock keycaps or other OEM profile, it contributes to the top rattle a bit
but yea there are more stable switches
the taller it is the more wobble there would be technically, so you might need the stablest of em all lol
Tried spring swapping? Long springs can have some pinging noise on top out
definitely something i can look into, dreading putting some time into it but i should since i do want a lighter switch as well
thanks for the rec, will take a look!
I like the colour :)
We need another content creator/val pro to make it
i wish i had that power
Thinking of changing the case to gt80, which color do you guys think would fit better with these caps? Or are there better alternatives available
so if i want to do a custom build of the 60he+ with the kbdfans holy 60 case should i just get the 60he+ standalone module or the normal 60he+ and take it apart myself
module
ty
Hey guys, need some advice. Is it better to get the Wooting double-shot keycaps and laser engrave them (or is that a bad idea?), or should I just order a separate set with my secondary language from a third-party brand straight away?
cerakey shan60 prebuilt, 8k polling 64k scan the usual, ceramic caps + case, 2000 yuan: https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=1046800338449
for me the ghost is the best one tho
these keycaps looks really good tho but big at the same time
those are OEMs?
asa caps so yes they are a little taller
🙂
Perfect color match
whats the sound difference compared to aluminum
guys are the ufos worth it over pink flux
totally personal preferences there
we don't know what your goal is or what you want
i have the pink flux rn on my 60hev2
then what are you aiming for if you want ufo?
yup
Can you add low profile keycaps to a wooting 60HE+ ?? Just made a community support post but figured I’d ask here as well.
Seen a Reddit post saying yes but I wanna double check. Any help appreciated!!!
neither is really 'thock' so it'd be a sidegrade
You can but it'll look kinda silly
like this
I prefer it much more to the aluminum
just ordered another gmk black snail set, hooray
i would like to know how the keyboard would sound with the new translucent case rather than aluminum
I don't even have one set, leave some for the rest of us 
I felt like I heard much more spacebar rattle before, sounds crisp now with the silicone
it's important to have a backup
an engineering mindset
do you have the blue one or regular
Now I just need to find a deskpad that matches it better, I wish ltt mousepad had more colors
No
My aqua is arriving on Monday. Mostly looking forward to a summery theme to pair w/ the nicer weather 😎 🌴 🌊
i also want to get aqua kinda
all the cool kids are 😉
messes with or makes more blue, the objectively best color?
said the guy with the wrong character in his profile pic
😏
What's wrong about Bub? He's been my pfp for 20 years. A good companion.
Bob is objectively better
Sounds like younger brother/player 2 talk
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what kind of sound profile does a carbon fiber plate create compared to like an fr4 plate
Did I miss free moneys again 😭
yup
CF is very hard, so higher pitched and clackier
ok ty
cause I was thinking of changing my plate eventually
I bought an fr4 one but it didn't come with enough screws unfortunately
Can't hurt to try! FR4 is fairly in-the-middle on hardness
ouch, not the best time for that
yeah true
but it's gonna last pretty long so
thinking of getting a gt-80 as that's the only case that isnt really mega expensive
ofc switches i used to be here when dcfs were like the peak
now i see there's new ones
I'm still using them 🧓
i was thinking of getting the keytok novas as they really look good to me
They're still very good
Newer switches are just sidegrade
i'd guess so considering it wasn't that long ago
and now cullinans are popular
i guess wuque are just goated at making he switches
ok but whoever thought of the keytok nova packaging is a menace
apparently each switch has its own little plastic container
@glacial wind are the blood diamonds just a recolor or do they have some other difference
i used to think that i never used a hard plate but i forgot 60he uses a steel plate iirc
The original, yeah. The 60HE+ change to PC
Recolored Cullinan most likely

Idk if i‘m super interested in them then cause i dont really want something to tint all my rgb red
Module only, 60HE+ prebuilt uses steel
For the launch offer
Really! TIL
ngl im surprised keytok made really good switches (apparently) as they're primarily a keycap company right
its such a shame that you still cannot buy a custom plate for the 60he v2 in eu
Should i switch this default plate to something more visually matching?
There are ways
how
i wanted to get from toronto keyboard but the shipping is as expensive as the product lmao
i NEED a cf one
Gosh I want the gt-80 so bad
also v2 compatible CF plate is on AliExpress, if you have split
Just order one on Keebox, plate files are on github
it's quite nice so far
The split is amazing 
The true winners
My aquamarine silicone case will deliver Friday, any ideas on keycaps to go with it?
I'm thinking something like a green marbly pattern
I'm gonna have my Salt Lakes on it, I think it'll look nice and beachy. Will post on Monday when it arrives. https://kbdfans.com/products/pbfans-salt-lakes
couldn't even buy a split version when i got the 60he :<
I am honestly kinda curious how kkb Sojus look with it
Ooeh that looks nice
Hmm not sure about the blue/green clash
Something something topographical 
But the exposed switches are not my thing
there's no information on materials so we can only guess really
for the emperor
Zealot bloodlust does not vibe w/ switchy floating in a pool 😨
It should be crunchy
jesus
Yes my son?
whoever created this needs to go in the hole

Ah i thought you had some but maybe i misremember
nah they basically just randomly included them but no info with them
it's fine, I'm sure it'll be forgotten in a week or two
what about black pudding, you could have mostly ultramarine with some offset from the black top
could go with white top too, just an idea
Might be one of the better uses for pudding keycaps, but they've never been my style 😅
https://www.kromekeycaps.com/collections/pudding-keycaps-single-colour/products/iso-ansi-pudding-light-blue-pbt-keycaps even found a company that makes colored puddings
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lelelab hokkaido probably looks real nice on the frost case https://swagkeys.com/products/lelelab-hokkaido-white-keycap
fits the aesthetic quite nicely
actually their blue set would look nice on aquamarine too
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but i wonder if it's too blue
since aquamarine is a little green
Indeed
White could be nice, the aqua brings a lot of pizazz on its own. I dug my blue alumaze w/ BoW
I ordered the white silicone case. I figured it would go better with the Soju I have. I guess I'll find out today.
Wow, trying to pull Tikken out of the CF plate on my 60 v2 sheered off the switch pulling tabs on my Gateron 3-in-1. I guess I should have just used my TX from the get go.
for what its worth i had a hard time getting them out as well
I should have just left the UFO in it until my new switches arrived. I was just being impatient and wanted to put something other than the UFO in it. I got all of the Tikken out, but my fingers are killing me now after using a TX puller to get the rest of the switches out.
yeah i had to remove all lekkers from my 80he this week and it was more of a task than i expected
it feels like sometimes only one of the two clips gets pressed in so it's very difficult to wiggle it out without yanking it
I had to disassemble the wooting 60he v2 to remove the novas
They fit way to tightly in the stock FR4 plate
And they fit to loosely in the POM plate

how are the novas?
i was thinking of getting them
They have a slightly "soft" sound that's very enjoyable
Well on Toronto KeyboardMan their are sold from 12$ per 10
And on Keytok website with a discount code they are ~11 per 10
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I ordered Six realm to put into my 60 v2. That was before I ordered the Cullinans. The Cullinans arrived before the Six Realms did and I just ended up putting the Nova that got replaced by the Cullinans in the 60 v2.
The next time I swap switches in that 60 v2 is when I plate swap to the plate that came with the Zoom64. So I figured "why not?"
Is the optimum case compatible with venom using pcbsnap?
i mean if its a standard 60% layout theoretically it should fit
Should i switch this default plate to something more visually matching?
i was thinking of silver CF but it may look tacky, maybe black+gold fp4/basic black pom/fp4 if i can find them
it's been pretty tricky even finding these plates online so far
Find some silver alu plate
i can make it custom with keebox, but i have like no idea what i need to pay attention to
i can make it alu anodized dark grey though
I want to get the regular CF plate for my 80HE. I have the same case as you, but I'm using the Nichirin keycap set so its a darker look.
I have the black/gold FR4 plate currently.
i have nichirins on the way but i think they sent my package by boat 😭
I posted a picture a couple of days ago of the Cullinans in my 80HE. You can see what the black/gold FR4 plate looks like in the grey GT80 in that picture.
i think the plate itself looks alright but the flex cut is not my type of thing
also allows more debris to get inside i guess
with a solid plate i can blow out most dust with a can of compressed air
none of the plates you sent have flex cuts? 
Alexotos building wooting on stream 👀
https://www.youtube.com/live/ZhW04IlQpOk
well the plates that you buy with foam on the picture are not flex cut, but the separate plate is
at least on the torontokeyboardman website https://torontokeyboardman.ca/products/wooting-80he-modding-kit?variant=44513538375875
i mean you can always look at aliexpress for this
thats where tkbm gets his stuff from anyways, aliexpress and taobao
https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256807856398027.html?
and if you want the foam mod kit https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256808889446894.html?
oh damn, that's good to know thanks!
i'm thinking to change the plate since the 80he plate is pretty soft and my old 60he has a really sturdy plate, i like when the keyboard is not bouncy
irdk how i feel about the plate
i havent tested with 80he
i would if when i bought my plate i had enough screws
but i forgot about it so
can't you just use the screws that are either delivered with a new plate or the old screws that are holding your keyboard together?
maybe idk
these are the screws that hold the plate to the pcb
i don't see why you can't reuse them :>
and if you do get alternate plate with different screwholes/threads, they should most likely include these 15 screws
If you can’t reuse can always crunch
how do plates usually get mounted i forgot
alex likes split best for gaming, i knew he was a smart man
pcb mounted to switch plate>rubber bouncy layer inbetween>switch plate mounted to pcb>switch>keycap in that order
ah
so if the aftermarket plate manufacturer respects and copies the exact screw holes, threads and positions - it should work with the old screws no problem
you can probably get away without a few of these screws but i am not sure if anyone is looking for unintended board flex
Waiting for alex to put the wooting into his schema prototype

he's right, the stabs are such a big benefit of split spacebar honestly
What is he gonna do with it
no large spacebar to rattle around
Swap switches etc?
no idea, i assume this is a build for someone
Next time there‘s an event of some sort y‘all should have him build a custom board to give away 
fr, I wanna see 80he split custom build

He might use the xvx ec/he switch
he charges for custom builds and has timeline and such iirc

since it's stream content for him to build the commissions
Yeah i mean if you could time something around halloween for example
Yk
A bit further out
it's mostly if it'd be worth it since it'd be a lot of coordination to get it done on time vs. just we build it ourselves if we wanted
maybe Sno can take the helm, custom woot build by Sno
I like alexotos but his audience isn't super HE based either, it's a very mx sided audience and coordination is always way trickier than people expect
Where they can give suggestions on stream (would also be a good place to announce product collabs)
a lot of the stuff you always suggest is stuff we have planned lol
like the entire reason for the podcast format is we want to expand into other guests not just wooting staff too
the thing is a lot of the stuff is planned but has to wait for certain timings
Yeah that was what i was thinking with this one
because it's basically each suggestion is you're giving someone a job for 2 weeks
which means they can't do their other job for 2 weeks

and some relies on tech side, like how we have a lot of content series that can't happen until we have a mod section of the website
I am a job creator
well it's good and bad right, because sometimes we just don't have the time to shove more things into our timeline lol
so things have to be weighed against 'what project are you working on' and 'does moving x person to this justify them not working on y'
Luckily the content team being too busy doesnt slow down development on the split space 80he + num pad combo as well as the split ergo board
All of which surely exist

like right now for example my tmr blog needs some graphics made for it, but our graphic guy is on another project this week at last minute
so it pushes the tmr blog back another week waiting for that
The one thing i can say for sure is that 100he is never coming
there's a lot of random stuff like that where sometimes you're just waiting for a timing window to do some stuff

I need that
Yeah that makes sense
same, then hope a lot of people talk about it
like right now my modding section of my website is annoyingly going slow because we launched another language part of our website, so our web dev is busy working on those pages
There should be a mc parkour version of the blog post like the video we have right now, also with terrible machine voicing etc
Mispronouncing shit and all
But honestly one of the #💬│general shitposters will probably do that on their own
The blue one
i actually agree with him, geon raws still sound good even if they're not that popular now
I still have them in an old 60he+ sitting around somewhere and it sounds great
people recommending ufo to him is hilarious though, because there's no way someone into MX is going to love ufo
the issues with them really matter to mx enthusiast folks
yeah this community still loves raws, but maybe that's cause they haven't used newer ones yet 
their tight feeling is going to be big no go for most enthusiast folks
Funny you mention raws cause i had some get their legs stuck in my 60he
While i was swapping

By tightness are you referring to scratchiness or how 'heavy' they feel?
the heavy feel
I like that in a switch
they're 50g bottom but feel like 60g no matter what you do, which enthusiasts will not love that tight feeling
I guess I'm a fake enthusiast then
you're more on HE side probably, which is fine too
i'm mostly talking about die hard mx folks
folks who are spending thousands on mx keyboards and such
they aren't picking based on stability like UFO focus on
oh you're a rare mx guy who likes ufo?
that's interesting
usually walled by itself is a big no go for most mx folks
As far as I'm concerned if it sounds good and feels good, it is good.
That's subjective. But the hobby would be boring if everyone's definition of good was the same
And the led diffusor also came out lol
well yeah, i'm generalising of course
Yeah that was annoying when I used Raws too
i'd wager if you put 9/10 mx folks into a room probably most would hate the UFO, but nothing wrong if your preference is different
Some diffusers are still somewhere in my room
Biding their time...
I can't wait to get rid of these UFO's tho
Cause it's only a matter of time before they feel like garbage when the lube dries out
But the Cullinans have been delayed 
Yeah, my UFOs feel and sound very dry now after using them for months
It's a shame. They feel lovely when they're brand new
We love us some inconsistent factory lubing
Don’t worry we got an ass diffuser now even tho it can’t be opened fire gravastar

He found it
it's such a pain finding 1.25u in gmk
Oh he didn't nvm
Ocean heart prob gonna be closer if you like UFOs in terms of stability/pop while being lighter press
https://pantheonkeys.com/products/idk-poseidon-pbt-dye-sub-keycap-set how about these, these are kinda nice
Assuming you liked them until the lubing situation
you like final fantasy ?
[IC] MW Meteor Dreams
Another 2028 set fire
it's interesting both alexotos and dbokey love the same tx puller
the fat stubby cnc one
i never bought that one because it's like $25 and i have a billion pullers, maybe i should buy it to check it out
seems like it's a comfort thing as for why they like it
nah
the stubby switch puller only one
multi tool too finicky i think for most people to use for multi tooling lol
mine just stays as the best keycap puller I own, but I'm not putting the tabs on and off constantly
i just ordered my ufos
i use it as my switch puller only 
yeah exactly lol, everyone just picks one usage and they're too lazy to put the tabs on and off constantly
i should get my keycap puller back
and i found the switch opener part gets scuffed over time because the sizing changes over time since it's built into the handle part
just put keycap part back on and then order the cnc puller lol
yeah the opener seems weird
yeah but then i cant put it in the same cart as my diamonds
the cnc switch puller is basically like more robust version of what you get in multi tool anyway
ah
yeah that thing
honestly, it's probably worth it
but it wont be as good of a fidget tool
multi tool has so many little places i can stick my fingers
I use the lil bear WS switch puller for switches
And for keycaps the same tbh, the flat bent metal
i'll order one next week, i need to try out more pullers anyway for our look at pullers because we are considering looking at new puller designs and such in future
yeah the ws keycap puller is good
Their switch puller too tbh




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