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hell no
You planning on getting one? Or waiting for the others?
is it just me or am I the only one that keeps playing with the spacebar until it sounds perfect
Spent the entire day tinkering it and idk if I can make it any better
i just tune my space till theres no tickin
and if i want to change the sound of the space to match the rest of the board i swap switches
Key cap warped or na
I was fighting my spacebar for weeks because I thought tuning was off... Turns out the spacebar was just not equally weighted
no
my spacebar felt mushy until I noticed the tape inside was peeling off
And then had to redo the entire process
Hmmm
also check this out 
Someone here talked about ordering one, I'm waiting to see there opinions
red one is unfinished
Ey the wing zero is fire
i lost a piece of the face on the wing
what is new with the logitech mouse
Hall effect
Rippp
oh shit, cool
i used white blutack to hold the mask to the face
You sure it's hall effect? 
I'm not sure what other type of switch would be adjustable in this case

ermm actually its an inductive trigger system š¤ š¤ āļø āļø
Pftt same thing
cool tech but 60g š¤®
G502 at 121š
Just get a neurolink at that point buddy
Yeah same and the reviewers might have incentives⦠for sure there will be copycats plus this is just the birth V1
I like the sound of the click on the superstike at least
I love my super light, but man that click is just obnoxious
V1 or V2?
yeah prolly not
V2
I find it too heavy after using the beast x
Tech is cool 30ms of saved latency I doubt that
i hate my superlights 
Ahhh so you got the opticals
It adds up
Yeah, annoying af click... But Logitech student discount so likee
I built my entire pc around latency
If you add up each component, it adds up
The missing piece is an induction mouse, my PCās latency cannot get any lower
Are you not strong enough for 30g?
Sounds like a skill issue 
Take it with a grain of salt
But from the cpu, to the ram to the storage were all chosen for latency
not how it works but ok
I even stuck with ddr4 because I can achieve sub 8ns in gear 1
It's not passing the eye test how much space do you have on a normal mouse between it not being clicked and being clicked
I think this is like before wooting came out
You need to try it
After wooting, there was no going back
You still need to actuate a click
Yeah and you're on a hair trigger already
Ill make gentlemanās bet that everyone will transition
Eventually as the market matures
It's not like Wooting where it is something needs to be analogue either you turn on or off all that matters is the initial click
We shall see sir
Not sure if I will get the first release but I am watching closelyā¦
As the top YT comment said:
"Gonna wait for the 30 gram chinesium"
Yeah Iām mostly not sure which games even benefit from release click latency jumps
If you cared about it you would have had a op18k already 
It also helps eliminate that physical latency
wtf is -1.3ms
Thats playing in the future
Weighing no more than 49 g, the ambidextrous OP1 8K promises exceptionally low latency, owing to its 8000 Hz polling rate and custom Kailh GX main button switches, which reduce actuation latency even further. PixArt's PAW3395 sensor is used, along with pure PTFE feet and a particularly flexible cable.
Im more interested in the initial press, like what wooting did for keebs⦠the instant responsiveness plus all the rest
People playing osu/gd with just a mouse i guess
What the
How
-1.3??
so it predicts the click for you?!
Initial press doesnāt really change much with this mouse if I understand right
Isnāt it all about the release
Im speculating here (we all are), but just from the early reviews I watched and unless they are paid to say that stuff, there is a noticeable difference.
They squabble about design and weight
But they are all genuinely interested in the tech, they all say you ājust need to try to understandā
And so I will
I don't think it matters that much, it's not like mech keyboards where you had to press 2mm to actuate a key. Most mice have almost no pretravel nowadays and very light clicks
Im pretty sure we will find out soon as people buy them
My 2 mice are looking at me concerned rn lol
I mean the technology itself doesnāt claim faster latency though
It just reduces time IF you have more travel, but good mice already reduce travel to as low as possible
So the only real gain is if you have a mouse with bad amount of pretravel
GOALS
I want an Optane
Yeah I want a g-wolves HE mouse now lol
Bruh, its next level. Windows is like a fast fresh install errrreeday
Opening programs, whatever is instant
From the initial reviews, ill believe them but I take them with a grain of salt, they all say they its faster
Im not advocating but the tech looks promising, will wait for more reviews and im sure people here will come in and chime in also
Once they have them
yeah but I mean regardless of it all that is the promise of the technology
It just eliminates pre travel if you have a lot of pretravel
For instance even on my beast x, there is still a click. If I could remove that I would
itās neat I guess for people who have mice with lots of pretravel
I want to breath on it and have it actuate haha
beastx has one of the nicest clicks and very small pretravel, I don't think superstrike feels as good
Didn't boardzy also swap out his venom with a gt60 saying the latency was way better, not sure if trust his opinion on latency
Im pretty sure once all the cheap copy cats are made. Logitech just pulled a wooting for mice
yea "input feels better"
Yes
Eh I doubt it

This is definitely not a wooting event
But again, grain of salt
In the sense that everyone will move away for our trad mice to this new tech or forms of it
Iām sure other mice will adopt the technology eventually but the gain isnāt really much
Im sure it will be standard, give it a year or 2
Itās just a nice quality of life thing but thereās not much gain in actual reponse/latency imo
Early adopters move in, if tech is proven then the herd follow
Lets see, Im being open minded
Have you seen the early review videos?
i like it :)
Yes and all the claims are just that it reduces click activation
But look at the stats claimed
Itās 0.65mm
This is only V1
So if you have 0.65 already then the gain is not there
Wait for the Chinese reverse engineers
the 0.65 is very early
Iām not saying itās not neat or that people wonāt do the same, but that the max possible gain from this technology is fairly small
may sound long coming from keyboards
Because 0.65mm is already an incredibly small amount of movement
Ill stack it with my 80he and low latency build
But maybe not the first release
The 30ms claim is also logitechs own test vs generic random mouse
Which claimed to be a result of just click distance reduction
So if your click distance is the same on mx youāre not getting the benefits
was someone here at the logitech event
they did live test against deathadder v4 pro there
I think itāll be neat but youād drastically not use it at its max setting
I use the 80heās lowest during gaming
Kind of like technically using 0.01mm actuation is faster than 0.3mm yet most pros still use 0.3-0.5
Everything maxxed on response time
you enter realm of consistency issues
I use the lowest actuation
I could try comparing the actuation "distance" of normal superlight 2 vs superstrike on lowest setting tomorrow
Pls do
I mean more power to you since you want to min max your latency but if you had a gun to my head and asked me to bet on if people perform better in lowest settings or not Iād bet on not
sometimes lower latency is worse consistency
Ok
Works for me
Just not on all keys
I view it a lot like when they tested pro players with mousepads
Even the ones who claimed a specific mousepad speed worked for them, they still performed better in pads with speeds more suited for their games
Mousepads are more subjective
weāll agree to disagree because I can see you just want lowest latency and thatās fine
Low latency is measurable, i get higher 1% lows snd zero stutters with a locked frame-rate
it will sell well for people living together with others while having thin walls 
Yeah I could see this being a bigger thing for average joes in older demo
Cant wake up the kiddos
no one is debating lower = lower. Itās mostly if whether lower actuation = better for every situation which I think it does not
if people want to use crazy low settings and believe it works for them then go for it, but theoretically there is always a limit to how low is too low
0.00000000000001mm actuation
For this specific mouse, there is also the click factor
actuates at the gust of wind
There will be more coming out
chinese copies gonna have wild settings
in the end shape still king first
My man
The Chinese reverse engineers will solve this
luckily superlight shape is king (hate incoming)

Superlight sucks for fingertip
noo
itās fine for average joe claw grip but god awful for fingertip
People were still using zowie mice with like 15ms of click latency until very recently
I agree with sno here unless you have viking hands
Nah lets be fr we need -4mm actuation
I think only people who think that are non native fingertip people
To each his own
I dont think anything is better or worse
A lot of this is subjective
Mostly people who never fingertip find it super awkward and unsteady, so I can understand that sentiment if they just suck at the grip
Do ping me sir when you have the new mouse 
Id like to get your thoughts on it
i already do
How is it
Fair enough
What about the āclicksā
Do you feel they are āfasterā to press
weird at first
yess
Dats what im talking about
like i got surprised that i clicked stuff
needs adjustment lol
maybe not gonna main the lowest setting
Thats the good stuff im looking for
#win
I may get one
Will just wait on more reviews and/or copy cats
Just wish it came in all black
will be interesting to see how the market reacts
superlight is my favorite shape tho so i can rest 
I think it will change the gaming mouse market IMO
maybe it will drop in price in my return window 
although i wanna switch out skates
Isnāt the tech heavily patented?
hard decision
Nah, if anything, prices may rise with raw materials going up
Outside of Chinese brands the western brands probably canāt do it for awhile until they get a way around patents
something gotta research that
Apparently but dont underestimate the tenacity of the Chinese ability to reverse engineer
They will make it better
ye just open up the mouse lol
The Chinese clones can but the western brands canāt sell it due to patents
Yeah but made in China doesnāt matter
Itās the fact that razer canāt just break patent that is owned by Logitech until they find a design change around it
A wlmouse or something can because they donāt care about following international laws
But razer and big brands have to follow patent laws
It will be the mainstream option definitely
Razer is a big L
I mean everything though not just razer.
has this destroyed plans for #wootingmouse
Pulsar, finalmouse etc every big brand has to find a way around the patent
Thats why I jest when I say reverse engineer. They will take that tech, copy it or do something similar then design a mouse for gamers
well the thing is copying it is easy
Iām sure there will be 100 Chinese brands who rip it off quickly
However the big brands canāt do that as easily and have to prove a design change
WL mouse could just make a new line of mice with this tech and boom
but these dont sell well enough for logitech to really care
Yeah wlmouse and such like I said can do it because theyāll just break the law
But big brands with western fronts canāt do it
like if pulsar tried to just copy paste it their US division would get wrecked
wlmouse doesnāt have to worry about that because theyāll operate solely in China and ship from China only
It is not though
Their software is crap
It kills anything for me from them
can logitech get wlmouse and others get banned from western retailers like Maxgaming?
also wlmouse is stocked in EU warehouses and such
I will not let razer software on my pc
Never had any issues with their software and it's better now compared to what it was. Also they're releasing web software soon for their mice
Potential if they wanted to yeah, but likely not worth hassle because wlmouse can just ship direct from China
To me its complete bloatware, buddy has it
Thereās plenty of loopholes for Chinese companies to jump around if they donāt actually have a western entity
shafie vs pulsar software 
But thatās just me
They fixed their bugs lol
that will not be good for wlmouse in trying to become more mainstream here tho
I think they donāt care that much about western market
If youāve seen Chinese market numbers youāll get why lol
Their market is big enough
You see them here in asia too
WL right next to logitech in stores here
Iāve heard of hobby shops in China that sell thousands of wootings a month
Just random shops
they do a bit tho
The scale of China market vs western is on a different level
Did you get 400 or 800gb?
1.6TB
ideally youd copy the product and only sell it in ike china lol
Like single shops will do things like order and sell $500k of a random mouse that westerners barely know about
This drive will outlive me
The Chinese market massively dwarfs a lot of places
how
An absurd amount of people buying
Yeah thatās goated
Did you buy it new or second hand
they got a few people living there
Iāve seen a lot of eBay deals
I want em to have their store here rather than through taobao
Like for example wuques switch sales numbers in China
Second hand but when I checked the use, it has been used for less than 20 hours haha
It dwarfed all the switches they sell elsewhere lol
I was able to buy 2
Guy pulled them from a test server, fantastic deal
Both used under 20 hours
I do think the tech is neat though and eventually will lead to more consistent clicks for everyone
Basically zero writes
But it will take a bunch of time for brands to copy it without breaking patents
And logitech also would be dumb as hell not patenting it
That is where I got mine⦠just make sure they send you the drive report⦠how long it was used for, how many writesā¦
The guy I got from sold out
I assume itās already surrounded by a bunch of patents
is the tempest tape mod safe for wooting pcb?
Just make sure to use this and put it in your top m.2 slot
youll be fine
do avoid using heavy adhesive tape like duck tape
Also be careful as motherboards will share lanes with their GPU slot. I chose my mobo with separate lanes. My GPU in my config does not share lanes with the main m.2 slot. Otherwise they will fight for the pcie bandwidth
Oh damn. Left exit or right exit. Biggest decision of my life
I think the more interesting development is what happens to finalmouse now. Theyāre build on people chasing min max spec stuff and this Logitech just outdid them at that
They have top and bottom too on other listings lolā¦.
I chose right exit
Left doesnt work
i was going to test out keebtape with has a warning about flat pcb, not sure if thatās just legal jargon to cover their arse
not even newest gen sensors
finalmouse could be solid if their mice were solid 
you're good
If you are running a standard build, right exit is great
Can go into the back of the case, left is awkward
Ill see if I have a pic
I feel like a kid ordering all this crap from China. My wife got laid off from her job on Friday, the company she worked for put a blanket "No one in the household can order stuff directly from China even on personal time." Well now I can and I am. I ordered a GT-80, the WS Flux (Deep Clacky), and the KeyTok Nova in the past 24 hours. Now to hurry up and wait.
CIA
lol
No, but she was a government contractor.
Yeah makes sense
their marketing is wild, it's basically like those chinese brands that make crazy claims but with more elitism built in
yep very weird
debtson 
like Razer doesn't exist and actually gets the exclusive usage of the latest pixart sensor
pixart must be very bad at making sensors when every company has to customize them š š
This sounds like somebody saying expensive cable improves the sound
whats the thockest cable
Germanium.
i want to get a gt-80 for my tenz80he eventually but idk what color 
@polar girder here is right exit
Red
i can get silver to match my gt60
Left exit doesnt cut it
Not technically China, but Hong Kong, but I use the Mchose L7 Ultra mouse. It works well for me and is better and cheaper than any Razer mouse I've purchased.
nothing else in the setup is red 
i think it may be a real issue for finalmouse cause this is their core customer base being taken by logitech now and they aren't a fully chinese brand that can just break whatever patents logitech has on this
Move HQ to China
Didnt they have QC issues and low production numbers also?
well yeah but I mean the problem is more that finalmouse needs to copy this technology in to stay competitive with their userbase and they may have issues doing that since they're a non china entity
finalmouse gotta figure out how to build a mouse first
Yeah true
they have some amount of hypebeast collector buyers, but it's going to be worrying for them if they have to rely solely on that for sales
@polar girder also do a clean install of windows if you get an optane drive. If you get an intel branded one, I can send you the original driver (p5800x) for it that someone shared with me on level 1 tech forums. Replaces the standard windows nvme driver. Just pm me for any questions.
And the p5800x is the only one worth getting. Even 400GBs is good for windows then install games on a secondary m.2
But it is night and day difference
Gen 5 m.2s are overrated and get too hot unless you do video editing etc
Some things are for the best 
i might try borrow a superstrike from one of fps coach friends just to mess around with
regardless the shape won't fit me anyway so no way i'd shell out the $180 for a shape that i can't use anyway
Well I got my friend that coaches league to move over to the 80HE recently 
must be why he hit rank #1 olaf in solo queue
I got our whole squad to move to wooting
Then people in our gaming community were curious and a lot followed and got wooting as well
i got some of lck crew on 80he now too lol
hell yeah that's sick
I havent tried out the WASD movement since they added it
jeesun got a fancy modded one - https://x.com/ZeetwoZ2/status/2019000488319131857?s=20
man I gotta pick me up a hangul keycap set sometime
It looks through your web cam and sees when you want to click the mouse button
Trust
Scans your face for intent
the lil jinx single switch is so cute
i want one
80he soon 
look at what you have to do to mirror a fraction of my power
buying and frankensteining 3 switches to match with kois 
father vs son ah switches
spring crunch ā
yikb crunch ā
it's punishment for not having split spacebar
my yikb stabs have been perfect in my v2
it has a split spacebar so it makes sense that it was touched by god

yes especially 3u 1u 3u spacebars
iāve only had issues with 7u
Nah go 15u
6.25u i havenāt tried much
i don't make the rules, it's math. 100% of wooting employees using yikb have no issues when used in split spacebar builds
math. science. perfection.
i donāt have soju blue split keys
i do have them for pbtfan crosshairs
so so so
do i hear
SKILLLLLLLLL ISSSOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

but yeah its weird on why your yikb is doing this to you

oh shi new pb on bella 
bella buff
nvm new pb again 
90wpm on phone keyboard
why u blinding us
60v2 in a dragon60
Guys are the squishy boy switches worth
they are a decent budget option
i dont have it personally, but its like the geon raws, owlabs area id say
Ok thanks
Ph cool
Where can i buy this bro i cant find it anywhere
aliexpress or taobao
Tysm

Kailh aurora mag switches
i asked geon folks, they placed an order for gmk black snail spacebar kits, so hopefully 'soon' they'll have more stock of them
I asked this before but I lost the link. If I want to order a custom plate forthe zom64 in europe, what do y'all recommend shop-wise
why does that switch look so funky
New funky structure
i wonder if structure changed the sound much
i feel that's the new thing now since ufo and ttc started doing funky structure changes
and there's one more switch coming i think in 2 months that will be popular too
Ufo ufo ufo
everyone doing structure changes now
Sorry to bump this again
Cant wait to get blinded
Has anyone heard about the Zoom64 case?
Yup, we sure have
Never
Guys am I putting it the correct side
bunch of folks here ordered it, and we worked with wuque to get plate files compatible with it
(if you're ANSI)
Iām ansi
Idk if I put it correctly
Iām scared af cause I heard the crack sound bro
The see through diffuser needs to be over led (which is on top of the pcb switch area)
its the same for iso except for the ENTER key (and fullsize has the placing different for numpad enter and numpad plus on both ANSI and ISO)
So Iām doing well right
you prob didnt hear a crack but the switch snapping in
Yeah I wanted to know if it was compatible with it
I wasn't going to tell them that if they weren't ISO, is what I was pointing at hehe
the nearest i know is hype which is canadian
To not confuse them
deleted the image cause it had your serial number
most i know is asian
Oh thanks sir
Are they decent pice wise on shipping? Did you like their service?
yeah it's compatible. Although if you have anything besides ansi regular spacebar then you needto download the plate file provided and get a custom plate made
a lot of people here use it but its kinda ex
cnc and metals are usually much cheaper in the east
theres one in my country with free shipping, im kinda considering getting cf
has anyone here tried either switch film, plate switch gasket or switch pcb pads?
I didnāt know you need to apply so much force for it to snap in place
but if im modding my keyboard again id probably just wait for a wooting collab or just get the holy80 cf plate
One last question would u be able to like switch the plate and dampening for something else idk like a fr4 plate etc
Yes
You just need the custom plate made
like 40 usd for carbon fibre and free shipping is lowkey tempting tho
Can these guys do 80HE ISO plates too?
yeah plates can be made in all sorts of materials like drakon showed. You just request the material when you buy a custom plate
I might get a carbon fibrr one for my zoom64 case tbh
If I'm getting a custom one cut, I'm curious
cf is da bomb
Yeah?
Eventually gonna get that or alu, not sure yet.
I think Alu was just a step back from CF, and 80HE has FR4 by def.
How does it affect the sound vs a fr4 you'd say?
where is fr4 slander when u need him
Thanks
Timecode
0:00 Setup Details
0:36 test 01
1:34 test 02
3:03 test 03
3:44 test 04 w/ weight
4:07 Aluminium
4:27 FR4
4:38 POM
4:48 carbon fiber
4:58 copper
5:09 silver mirror
5:19 brass
5:29 typing test Aluminium vs FR4 vs POM vs CF vs Copper vs Silver Mirror vs Brass
7:36 spacebar
8:08 H
8:34 A
8:59 F+G
9:24 ASDF
9:59 backspace
ā¦
people liking fr4 is like 50/50 i feel
it differs from diff boards but either you think its more dull or more well rounded
I love the brass in this video fudge
my board is plateless
?
i have
I believe the consensus is less is better
but not using the films anymore
With HE switches
only small rings between plate and pcb
to guys wheres the wooting app
Brass is also in question actually, might not need to go all the way to CF.
But i have a feeling i need to order atleast two.
For thock do I put the poron foam or silicon pad on my pc plate?
I'm gonna add a friction fit pad too
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Onboard memo...
you canāt put both afaik
@glacial wind
Change is coming
poron foam ig
but test both, its so easy to swap
oh wait
u have the 60he
friction fit is silicon only
yeah i've seen that already. Like i said i think the tech is alright, maybe a small benefit depending on how much pre-travel you have
more beneficial the more pre-travel current mouse has, and less beneficial the tighter/less pre-travel your mouse has
i see it more as neat consistency in being able to get all mice to say 0.1mm or whatever you want instead of having to rely on manu to make sure the pre-travel is low
Im amazed he said China will come out with their own in 2/3 months haha
that's doable for sure
with china style of making things. it probably won't be super polished at first though
Am I doing smt wrong? Cuz when i try and put the friction fit inside it just falls out
did you change something? and what's the case?
I didn't change anything I have a tofu 60 tho
and you took the 60he v2 module and just placed it in i assume?
I'm using the normal 60he
i assume you have a v2?
well then you need a friction fit layer if you don't already have it
60he v1 did not come standard with friction fit
or you can tray mount it with screws instead
A friction fit layer, like the pad u guys sell?
yeah, friction fit only friction fits if you have the friction fit pad. otherwise you can just mount via tray mount instead, which is the 4 screws
Yea I have the pad
you swapped your 60he v1 to the friction fit pad?
Oh wait sorry I think I'm supposed to enter the switches in first...
I didn't add the switches yet
well switches can come later, but you need the friction fit pad installed first
do you have that installed?
I tried to install it but it just falls off
you had to take your board apart and swap the layer to the friction fit layer
then screw it back together
that doesn't sound right, it should fit quite snug
you followed the tutorial to swap the whole layer?
Do I try after adding the switches and stabs first
Yea
wait...
how have you installed and screwed in the friction fit layer without installing the stabs?
you can't do that later
Nothing is screwed in rn
u got a pic?
well then you haven't followed the tutorial, please do the entire tutorial first
The thing in the back is the friction fit
do the entire friction fit tutorial and only then try to put it in
I assume I have to put in everything?
yeah the entire module has to be assembled just like the tutorial
i kinda of make the videos so this is my job lol
here sander made a previous guide if you're not already following it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NvMwijZU-L0
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I'm using this one rn
But maybe I missed him saying the entire thing had to be assembled
okay. basically the entire process is same as optimum case here except with a tofu case instead
so just take it step by step exactly like the guide
Uh this might be a dumb question, but whichis the led window side on the lekker tikkens?
Like the one with the crown?
yea
Uh, basically one is more clear than the other
I think that's the crown side
i'm a bit confused though at how you're doing the switches before screwing the module together
i feel like some steps got missed somewhere
yo do plates make a big difference?
i just looked at a sound comparison and they sound very similar
Don't u just snap the switches kn
And then put the friction fit on
And then screw it in the pcb?
Or am I missing smt
in the tutorial sander has the switches in already because he's swapping friction fit in for a fully built keyboard already
but you don't need to do the switches before everything else, that can be done last if you want
is wooting planning on making a pet film for 60he?
separately? Not planned right now to sell it separately
hey is it possible to get a FR4 plate for my wooting 60he+? (iso layout, if that matters) thank you!
i have a 60he+. is there any way for me to get the pet film and the fitted tape mod without buying the v2?
not officially, unless you find some from 3rd party sellers
tape mod you can easily do yourself though, it doesn't have to be fitted
it's literally just getting the right type of tape and doing a few strips on bottom of your pcb
do i need to cut out parts to not damage electrical things
what keyboard mods can i do that are cheap and affordable
tape mod
idk if people still shove tape into their stabilizers
Those sound very clicky on his sound test
Also they are a budget switch
I would never pick it over a DC flux, UFO or the nova's
(ufo ufo ufo)
Wdym
Do you know how clicky switches sound?
Ya
Is that a bad thing?
Is it a big difference from the lekmar tikken
They are smooth
Lekkar
Idk
Never tried either of those
The travel distance is way shorter
Tickens are fine imo
For a stock/cheap switch they are good
Smooth and great for gaming
They only don't sound that great
Id buy this in a heartbeat 
Nothing is inherently bad aside from lessening accuracy (by putting orings in your switches or using switch foam which acts as a barrier btwn switch and PCB), but everything is personal preference for sound/feel. most ppl typically donāt like the MX blue clicky style, so youāll see alot of negativity towards clicky switch sound from that
Ok
The TL;DR is you gotta try a few things before youāll know/pinpoint most of your preferences if you donāt know already
If youāre going for a custom color gradient I like it
Think Iām more partial starting left to right vs right to left
i was planning on getting like posca markers and adding dots and custom cool font, i was gonna make it space themed
Make sure you varnish it after or something because markers will definitely wear off
posca markers are like painting markers and they are good for designing stuff like keycaps, mice, etc
anyways
I know exactly what posca markers are
this is a strap i was gonna pair with it
They will wear off.
ok
Anything you touch that isn't like fused into the caps, will wear off due to friction and finger oils
I'd suggest yuzukeys or goblintechkeys for custom caps
They will last much much better
And you get to design in illustrator/photoshop
I modded my kb and everything sounds great, but the spacebar is loud what do I do?
Different switch or space bar foam
I'm using lekker tikkens rn
wait this is a great deal, wuque doubleshot pbt is $49
https://shop.wuquestudio.com/collections/keycaps they're doing some sort of lunar new year sale. I only see their sets go this low maybe during black friday
Wuque Studio was found with the purpose of sharing our design and passion for custom keyboard community.
and most of their sets come with the rare 1.25u spacebar profile key
Now letās see that Wuque diamond lunar new year sale 
good luck with that lol, i think those are going to be super pricy
Wuque just going against the good will generated from DCF, a tale as old as time
hrm i might pick up a set of doubleshot pbt bow
Itās like theyād rather the 7 whales buy it retail than pricing it competitively where more ppl will give it a shot
good bow set is always handy to have, especially with 1.25u profile
man too many sales. i was already planning on buying gmk black snail in the geon sale
i dont need this i dont need this i dont need this
so how do i fix the spacebar? its loud even with foam
there isn't really a 100% fix
it's always slightly different
you embrace the sound difference
it sounds like really loud and metally ig
so theres no way for it to sound different?
im using the same switches for everything but the rest sound good
ya but space bar is different
its only the spacebar that sounds like really really loud
it sends the most vibrations to the case and is also hollow
would lubing my stock stabs make it sound different
u techincally could just use a silent switch or even a dome switch if u want
it would if ur stabs arent lubed well or balanced well
but its not why the space sounds different
they can do a full circle
its just a spacebar thing, not because of an spoiled keycap or switch
dumb spacebar
Hey, I don't know where else to ask, so I'm asking you. I'm about to buy the Gehirn60 and I don't know if I should get an additional USB-C extender.
but swapping keycaps and switches can make it sound less loud
dont they alr include one?
but u definetly need at least one for wooting
why
the he kit?
I was going to get the barebone version with the plate for the Venom 60 HE, but in the end I'm planning to get one with the Rakka PCB and another with the MX.
wait what does it sound like
could be a stab issue
like obnoxiously loud
whats a metal ping
like high pitched metal
yea
unbalanced stabs probably
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/cGA4PVuT6ew like this?
š āØļøWooting 80HE: https://wooting.io/our-products?partner_id=tristan
Welcome, everyone! It's Tristan from Crafting Worlds, and today, Iām diving deep into the Wooting 80HE, a Hall Effect analog keyboard that has redefined my typing and gaming experience.
The Wooting 80HE isn't just a keyboardāit's a platform for customization. With i...
I've prepared my cart as you can see, but I'm wondering if the extender is really all that useful.
the stabs are very spinny
i mean if ur not using wooting i dont think u need it?
the kits should cover all
i kinda fixed it by dumping 2 tonnes of foam but how do i fix a stab problem
umm
u need to open it up
and take out the stab wire
its kinda a lot of work for the first time
Even though I've prepared my cart I'm still undecided about buying the Gambling Aged because the Anomaly with a set of keycaps can look really nice, just like the Pasteal and the Containment
Here is how I mod my stabilizers. I get asked this a lot of my streams and honestly, I figured why not just record this so I can link this video instead of having to re-explain it every time. I hope you enjoy it. Please remember this video is only covering lubing and installing, some stabs like cherry clip-ins, you'll need to clip the bottom leg...
I think you're right thx
arent the 60he stabsplate mounted or smt
what?
they are yea
either way you need to disassemble to wooting, take out the wire and and tune it
probably in that case u would want to relube it aswell
which is rough
doable tho, if you wanna spend some time and money
so what exactly would i need to do?
i prefer gambling for me
either that or mechamelon
buy 2 types or lube or buy new stabs and one type of lube
disassemble the wooting
tune the wire
relube the wire
put it back and assemble
lol
new stabs are like 50 dollars for me
good luck, feel free to ask more, imma go back to studying
damn really?
its usually like 20
max
for me any stab is 50
Because on the DeltaKeyco server I saw a build with the other colors I mentioned and it's really nice, but the aged one really tempts me because I'll have a unique keyboard, and the Mechameleon one is also super original
aged just fits the theme
others are nice but its just not what the kb is designed for
cryo and mecha is cool tho
i put alot of foam and now its like alot better in the middle atleast
Yes, that's what I thought too
Yo, just found out that rawhuks sounds literally the same as elf kings
do i attempt cf plate again? 
ā10 switches left

S++ Novas
Naah, Iām kinda canāt decide where should I put them A/S
Somewhere in Ukraine 
mobius frakenswitch? 
oh wait i dont have the oceans top housing 

Dont know if this was shared here already https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D2PxRvCkXds
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You donāt need oceans. Same as rawhuks: Mƶ stem + DCF housing
why are lekker v2 in D?
i need a switch opener tho
they arent good
They deserve at least a little bit of love. Purely in theory, if someone already has them and doesnāt really care, then thereās no point in replacing them
weāre the ttc dark horse a limited release or something
Just try few for WASD
i cant seem to notice a difference 
that or its just very slight but that might just be where it is on the keyboard
Just Dcf sound + mƶ magnet 
it also doesnt feel as smooth 
i canāt find ttc dark horse online
but maybe i did it wrong
i think the kois top out sound is better than fluxes
i am no longer flux pilled
but you also cant get kois outside of china unless you use a forwarder
Indeed, out of all your sound tests kois sounds pretty dope
https://youtu.be/Lv5VoP0-Vz0
Hmm š
The Gehirn60 is a 60% designed by Baionlenja and Bowl Keyboards, and its core pitch is straightforward: one premium aluminum case that supports MX, EC, and Hall Effect PCBs interchangeably. That kind of flexibility is great, and the execution here, with Gondolindrim on the MX PCBs, Cipulot on the EC side, and Rakka handling the HE kit, means eac...
They are S trust
Only one switch out of 70 i ordered was scratchy
pulling switches gently never works. both og 60he and 60he v2 lekkers came out broken while replacing them as if they were glued to the plate
Is there any workaround for stabs in v2? Have to buy 2 sets of stabs to change them all or any other solution? Stock stabs are ahh tbh, so much rattle and spacebar are misaligned
Stock stabs are fine just need some lube for tuning
Which you would need to do anyway if you bought new stabs
i used stock stabs in my v2
i used to have sw knights in my 60he+ and im using yikbs in my rakka60 (7u spacebar is giving me hell)
i gotta say
my rgb looks great with the š“
clear top really makes the rgb pop with my non shine through caps
Not really an all-in-one but has support for PCB's all of types as long as they fall into a few different 60% standard form factors (like gh60/dz60 for left mount USB)
Yeah stock stabs are more than sufficient. For most people they are great out of the box but if you learn how to tune them then you can make any stabs sound amazing
....seems familiar....
ayy, a nice way to get split bar in that looks
why is the mid space black and not yellow like the rest š
unless its meant for another key
Meant for another key š
hey can you buy an fr4 plate for the wooting 60he+? thank you!
Hello, I am new in modding, i want to buy a wooting he60 v2 and i have a question, if I choose the optimum case the friction fit pad has to be bought apart? Or is it included. Thanks
Friction fit pad comes with the Optimum case, but you don't need it, because 60HE v2 comes with it already.
And the pc switch plate? Sorry really new⦠thanks again I want to buy all that i need
PC plate isn't compatible with 60HE v2. Also don't think you need it, because v2 has an FR4 plate
The extras are confusing me thanks again
A final question regarding the layout. Is it easy to find pbt key caps for ansi split? I donāt know if that is standard or special from wooting
The spacebar sizes are the same as ANSI right and left shift. Having those as extra keys in a set, with the right row shape, is less common but not uncommon
2.25 and 2.75u
im making custom keycaps, whats better?
the saturn one
seen too many moon themed keycaps
Yes you can buy them from a custom made vendor like hypekeyboard for example or you can find some on aliexpress as well
Depends
Whats the theme and color palette?
dark gradient purple kinda
So kinda like this
i did change the design i just dont have it rn
It's giving glorious gpbt key cap sets with the color gradient transition
But I think the moon makes more sense with this palette in my opinion
Maybe saturn with a similar color palette but a lighter tone if that makes sense
Something like the purple all the way to the right of the image u sent
Gn
it seems ill have ot tone down the brightness of the wave keycaps
because of the light shinethrough thing
the fr4 plate is kinda pissing me off because the rgb light reflects on the bronze on the fr4 and makes my space bar pink
I need opinions and ratings!!!!!
Gorgeous, well done, excellent
I think you'd like GMK Selene with that setup ngl
It probably looks nice in person but an issue i see with glitter type stuff is that it always looks like dandruff in pictures, especially through discord compression and non close ups
I did think it was saw dust at first but took a sec
I was like "finally someone whoās mousepad is almost as dirty as mine" but then i was disappointed to discover that that was not the case
this i kind of a dumb question but what are these that came with my durock stabs do they effect sound at all?
Stabilizer pads, Stabilizer Shims, and washers
Stabilizer pads are placed on top of the pcb under the stabilizer, they're used as a padding for the stabilizer when it bottoms out to reduce noise and prevent lube or grease to directly go ontop of the pcb (although that isn't a big problem where as the lube that leaks out will make your stabs feel more stick on bottom out)
Stabilizer shims are used for 1.2mm pcbs, you dont need these with 1.6mm standarized pcb's like wootings
Washers you used them when screwing in the stabs onto the pcb
okay thanks for the clarification this is my first time building with upgraded stabs so just was curious if i need them or not
np
washers are a need, stab pads are optional, shims def dont need
actually the more i think about it, you dont really need it although its practical

and i can also see why its annoying to install with as well 
oh shi naice
nothing wrong with ali
oh make sure you get a standoff kit as well
if the plate doesn't provide
Even with friction?
yeah obv
Oh shi
how else would you screw in your pcb and plate together lol

oh wait you're thinking about tray mount aren't you
Uh good question
You need standoffs installed onto the plate in order to screw the pcb and plate together with these 3rd party plates
Ohhh
Only wooting plates provide the standoffs with the plate mold
Yea maybe that one comes with standoffs 
Send me link
going based off of the image reviews, both uses the same standoff screws so i supposed they do provide it
they didn't say anything in the description if it does provide it or not
so going based off of a hunch and what i see
Man i just pray
if it doesn't come with any you can go on ali again and look for kbdfan's standoff kit
super cheap
@fluid ravine The keyboard is an hour away from my house, but I don't know why it's only going to be delivered tomorrow.
shi might as well pick it up

I don't think they'll give it to you
anyone know how to verify mech keys discord
It's okay, I'll wait for the Gehirn too. I'll get one barebone and the other MX, and later I'll probably buy the Rakka and other PCBs, etc.
Yes
holy ballz that typing angle makes me want to do bmx stunts - shit looks steep 
Not that steep tbh
9 degrees is fine I use it daily
Just need to position your hands properly
not steep enough, enter the wristbreaker https://i.imgur.com/gfmJzY5.jpg
Anyone on Ali sell novas? Over 100 for enough for a 60% is kinda ridiculousš
Love at first sight š
Glare be like
11 degrees is beginner territory smh
We ball at 14 degrees š¤¤
Forgot that this existed lol
Lmao
increasing luck for keebmat 
i asked him the other day and he said we still got a month to wait

fawk
past feb?
yeah

Hehe my taobao mat is otw
i was thinking of getting one but my soju deskpad was a few bucks more on tb
cheaper than it in the US
What switches would you recommend for playing mobas and rts?
@dapper hazel hate to bother but do you have exact dimension of the alice keebmat in length and width despite the lil dip on the front
switches are preference of just sound and feel
they dont matter in performance
Lekker tikkens are fine for gaming
Thanks
Lekker tikkens are perfect for 95% of the people imo
That 5% of people are the insane ones like us
Probably no performance upgrade with "upgrading" switches
Description from my list:
If you like a 4 mm travel and don't care about precision at low AP or RT, this is probably the best switch for you. Insane deal when bought with Wooting board¹
I did feel like I got a little bit better at vsrg when I switched off corals and got geon raw hes but that could just placebo
Or maybe magnetic corals suck
Idk
Dual spacebar <3
Does fit fine for friction fit
i want to do a case roundup video yeah, with a few of these cases
hell yeah content time
If you come to pick them up i can lend you my gt60 and salvation for the video 
Where are you?
I was debating between the split version and the regular one, but I think Iām going to go with the US ANSI split in the end
a wise choice. Split users are just all around better people
Hey guys, Iām about to order:
Wooting 60HE v2 Module (ANSI Split)
Optimum Case
Double-shot PBT set (split version)
Lekker Tikken Medium
Just wanna make sure ā with this I can fully build it, right? Or am I missing anything important?
Few doubts:
The premium cable looks kinda short. If I plug it into my monitor, will I still get full 8K polling?
About the Friction Fit Pad ā is the one they sell separately actually better than the one that comes with the module, or is the stock one good enough?
Do I need the Switch Toolkit or does it already include what I need?
Sorry, first time doing a custom build š
If anyone has a good setup video for this combo, Iād love a link.
Hard agree
I'm pretty sure stock and seperate is the very same
friction fit pad we sell separately is for v1 60he, not needed for v2 because we provide a v2 version pad with module already. switch toolkit is if you wanted a better switch puller and switch opener for that type of modding work (but not needed for just assembling your wooting)
the cable we can't guarantee that your monitor won't have issues with power because USB hubs can be hit or miss with whether they provide stable power or not
I can personally recommend the hmlabs ZNEO powered hub
I'm sure there are others
But I have this specific one myself and it works perfectly
It's about 30 bucks on aliexpress
i can confirm i have tested that hub too and at least power wise it hasn't had any issues
I run my 60he v2, my mouse 2.4hz receiver and a bluetooth receiver off of it myself and they all function as expected
although i'm not sure if that fully solves his length issues or not. That's more of a sidequest than just using the default cable lol
That's fair
I'm placing my zoom64 gb order tonight sno :3
Going for the regular black one
Though I wish they had a red anodized one
nice. I wonder when mine gets here actually. I asked them for drift gray because it's pretty lol
i like this cerakeys case i'm using though, it's pretty unique look
Praying to Wooting gods for split 80he š
we request that regularly from product team lol
Id buy that in a heartbeat
Its great for gaming combos





