🔧│keyboard_modding

[fluid ravine]

my astrals almost hit the floors

[robust siren]

how the fuck does a prerequisite get canceled for an entire semester

ggs pro

im hanging it up, white flag

https://tenor.com/view/paz-white-flag-wave-waving-flag-gif-15666633

welp

keyboard modding and model cars it is

@fluid ravine i have decided that ima take apart my keyboard rn

[fluid ravine]

oh shyt

[robust siren]

wanna watch

tho i have no idea how im gonna prop my phone uo

[fluid ravine]

lmao

[robust siren]

i usually have to .5x zoom for videos

i dont think discord does that

[fluid ravine]

na

oh shyt you just reminded me that i gotta reset up obs

[robust siren]

no webcam

[fluid ravine]

fuhk

the way i record my videos is through my phone and obs

video ninja or wtv its called

:/

i realllly need a webcam

[robust siren]

ok

i can balance my phone on my monitor

but im scared if it falling

[fluid ravine]

buddy wut

[robust siren]

my LG monitor has flat sides

so i can technically rest my phone up there

but its hella sketch

[young viper]

Didn't windows just add a feature where you can use your phone as a webcam?

[fluid ravine]

oh right you can

i forgot

i've used it once

but i dont know how to manually connect it doe

lol

it just happened out of nowhere

[robust siren]

i dont even know how to prop my phone up for a top-down view

[fluid ravine]

it's alright

just tell me how the build goes

ima go get ready to hit the bed

[robust siren]

bro is NOT sleeping

[fluid ravine]

yeah my mind is awake af

icl

but i rather not get in trouble

soooo

[robust siren]

@fluid ravine

@fluid ravine this is why you need to sacrifice a switch for caps

[fluid ravine]

Oh shit the pcb ate them up

[fluid ravine]

WAIT RAKKA SUPPORTS STEPP?

[robust siren]

yeah

[robust siren]

6th one thats lost both legs

[fluid ravine]

Damn

[fluid ravine]

DAYUM

[robust siren]

2 1-leggers

[fluid ravine]

[robust siren]

switches arent supposed to do this

[chilly mural]

I mean, they did say to cut the feet off for layout compatibility

[robust siren]

they sit completely flat

anyways time to take the plate off and lube stabs

fahhh

did one stab so far

sounds way better

[hybrid condor]

any good affordable coil braided cable like the wooting one?

[young viper]

Epomaker I believe makes a somewhat decent one, the aviator style connector definitely feels a bit cheaper than the wooting, but for less than half the price

Yep it was epomaker

[hybrid condor]

thx! Ill check that

I see the one you are talking about. I actually have one just like that. I was more talking about if there was one that had usb-c host as well so it didnt have usb-a. but idk if that actually matters? I thought it was a bit concerning since it is a 0.1ms response time keyboard using a usb-a connector which could have more delay. is that a real concern? or will it not matter

[young viper]

I'd look at keychrons coiled cable, about 25, but type c on both ends if your super worried about response times

The main issues with some of the coiled cables is if they're rated for 8k which is what the fastest possible response time would be. I have no clue if the epomaker is rated for it, but keychrons version is

[hybrid condor]

thx! I will check taht for the one I already have, if It isnt or I cant find info on it then I will get the keychron one

[robust siren]

great no more loose stab rattling

assembly time

[hybrid condor]

what does rated for 8k mean actually? how do I check lol

[young viper]

Usually it'll say in the description, some won't. Like cablemods xray cable is rated for 8k, but it's not anywhere on their page and had to be tested. Being rated for 8k means it can carry inputs with the lowest latency possible by any keyboard currently on the market.

[hybrid condor]

okie thx

[robust siren]

okay one of the standoffs was stripped

and it took me a long ass time to figure out

[astral vessel]

What are the thokiest HE switches

[robust siren]

bro

these koi switches have got to be the hardest switch to put in

[regal patio]

Something like the UFO or Nova's probably

Deep clack fluxes also have a nice deeper sound

[broken notch]

Ufo ufo ufo

[regal patio]

But none of those are really "thocky"

Just different clacks

[broken notch]

go to link.wooting.io/soundtests

And listen to the UFOs

https://youtube.com/shorts/BHfN3jr1zYs?si=2r2gc6_Pj-bUBjyB

[glacial wind]

Mm

[broken notch]

Aesthetically pleasing

[glacial wind]

These cerakeys matte feel kind of cool

Grippy instead of sliding

[broken notch]

Which color did you get?

Also is that the Wuque switch remover?

[glacial wind]

Just matte white since case is white

[robust siren]

@fluid ravine

[broken notch]

Very nice

[robust siren]

the kois are a bit brighter than the ags radiants

[broken notch]

Sounds very good

[robust siren]

the keycaps are just some generic BOW set from taobao

doubtshot pbt

[glacial wind]

Not sure how I like all 3 keys being regular profile for spacebar split though

That’s problem with cerakeys is no split keys for matte

And alignment still isn’t perfect from what I can see

For example this shift I use as space

Clearly slightly off alignment

[broken notch]

Unfortunately this would upset me greatly

[glacial wind]

It’s the life of cerakeys I think lol. I’m only using it for a month or two for durability testing anyhow then back to normal keycaps probably

[robust siren]

@trail bane

[glacial wind]

I have to have the weirdest sounding cerakeys setup though

Since people usually go cerakeys for deep sounds but I threw them on a cf plate with ttc horses lol

[chilly mural]

So a cleek sound?

[fluid ravine]

Hey hold on
The koi got my attention now

[fallen pecan]

a thack sound

[glacial wind]

It’s like a weird flat clack with no reverb

[fluid ravine]

Hold on

[fluid ravine]

Indeed

I think I might like it

Gore I request a full board of kois

[chilly mural]

Sounds like a keyboard made out of water logged bamboo

[fluid ravine]

It might be the switch ive been looking for
Maybe..?

[robust siren]

later

[fluid ravine]

Fahk

Oh yh btw
I haven't slept

[robust siren]

yeah i can tell

[fluid ravine]

[robust siren]

fine ill do it now

[fluid ravine]

YAY

Hehe u da best

U mentioning it being brighter than AGS and when I heard the top out really got my attention

[robust siren]

@fluid ravine ignore shitty ass typing

[fluid ravine]

I think I like these

Whats specs on these?

[robust siren]

so uhhh build list goes as follows:

• KBDfans GT-60
• Silicone Gasket Mount
• 1 Layer Tape Mod
• Rakka60 Atlas
• PET Film (taobao)
• Foam sandwich-pad (taobao)
• Rakka Universal Plate (FR4)
• Yikb Stabs
• Generic BOW Keycaps (Doubleshot PBT)

[robust siren]

i sent them before but lemme find it

[cloud crane]

Is it this

[robust siren]

yeah

these were a bitch to put in tho

[fluid ravine]

Shiiit bro I fw these

[robust siren]

an HE switch thockson likes thats not a 3 switch hybrid frankenstein

[fluid ravine]

Lmao

[robust siren]

[fluid ravine]

Finally something that's working up to my standards

[robust siren]

it was like 20 bucks

[fluid ravine]

FUH

Ima guess I can't buy it on Ali..

[robust siren]

i can tell these legs are a lot stronger than the AGS Radiants tho

[fluid ravine]

LMAO

[cloud crane]

Superbuy

[fluid ravine]

The hell is superbuy

[robust siren]

i had to get a plier to break off a leg for the caps key

[fluid ravine]

Got a link?

[cloud crane]

Taobao proxy

[fluid ravine]

Damnit

[robust siren]

i used my hand to break off the one on the AGS Radiants

[fluid ravine]

Lmao

One flick boom

[robust siren]

flick of doom and dispair for leg day skippers

[cloud crane]

superbuy.com

[robust siren]

i think he means the tb link for the switches

[cloud crane]

https://e.tb.cn/h.7LUBxGZkoXlpPTV?tk=42fXUTxJy8h
Damn

[humble surge]

👀 they are evolving

[cloud crane]

🤔

[fluid ravine]

Fuck tb

I can't go on a single second trying to work through it

[humble surge]

nvm, not that one

[robust siren]

[cloud crane]

Lmao

[humble surge]

(wait for him to figure out it's much cheaper though and gather the willpower)

[cloud crane]

Frfr

[fluid ravine]

Like tf do I do here

[humble surge]

nothing

[cloud crane]

You just gotta lock in

[humble surge]

essentially just ask for item links and use SuperBuy

[cloud crane]

[cloud crane]

This works too

[humble surge]

chances are if you have no chinese ID you can't directly browse TB

[robust siren]

go to superbuy.com and paste the link

[humble surge]

(anymore)

[cloud crane]

Yeah unless you're one of the few countries where taobao accepts your id

[humble surge]

links look like this, always tmall/taobao and item.html?id=
Ending obviously with last number of ID

everything else is safe to delete and ignore when you grab them or someone gives you one

[fluid ravine]

It's too early for ts 🥀

[cloud crane]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1bcJk5qE1jgwdBjeXSPYOETXIrJMdZbO3QTsZoRxrO0E/edit?usp=drivesdk
Lock in @fluid ravine

[humble surge]

Refer to it later then when you woke up

[fluid ravine]

If I remember

[robust siren]

[fluid ravine]

If I dream of it LMAO

[humble surge]

kek

[robust siren]

@fluid ravine

[fluid ravine]

ARGHHH

[robust siren]

its not that bad

[fluid ravine]

Not that bad?

IT'S GOOD

[humble surge]

Not bad at all, been telling you guys i used this for years, but glad some of you realising the potential

[fluid ravine]

At least I ain't spending a tour of $100 to see UFOS

[humble surge]

100$? casual

try 150$

[fluid ravine]

LMAO

OR RIDE HORSES

🐎

[humble surge]

Real, 5 horses were like 25$ hehh

[fluid ravine]

[humble surge]

wait lets actually check

[cloud crane]

Me when I buy the individually serialized horsies for immense clip clop thockity thock:

[humble surge]

(they were not cheaper on TB yet btw, so i was lazy and just got them from Ali)

[robust siren]

how long does it take to usually ship them out

with superbuy

[humble surge]

~23$

[humble surge]

Domestic or international?

[robust siren]

is that... 2 switches for $24

[cloud crane]

TTC things

[humble surge]

it's 4 each

[robust siren]

international

[fluid ravine]

Yeah I'm cooked
It feels so illegal to do this but at the same time not

I feel too young for ts too LMAO

[cloud crane]

[robust siren]

https://tenor.com/view/doja-cat-star-wars-gif-25078126

[humble surge]

If they completed packaging and you submitted it, like they applied everything you asked them to. Usually next day or the day after (business days)

[fluid ravine]

[humble surge]

Keep in mind you can ask them to wrap it any way you want for pennies worth, protect it well, or minimize package size and weight etc.

[robust siren]

after taking apart my keyboard more times than i can count

i think i can rec the gateron 3in1

keycap puller, switch puller at east

the switch opener fuction i dont have much use for but it works

[chilly mural]

you'll be alright, at least it has more safety net compared to buying direct from Taobao (like me).

[fluid ravine]

Ok I'm done for the morning
I need to sleep damn. Best shot at this but is there a chance kois can be on Ali?

[robust siren]

i cant find it

[fluid ravine]

Maybe in the future...?

[humble surge]

My two packages last week, one was submitted on 20th and the other on 23rd, both had been consolidated from 3-4 items from my warehouse, first one already at the airport waiting for 27th plane flight, second one already at the shipper and going to airport soon @robust siren

[robust siren]

not bad

kinda roughly a little faster than ali 2 weeks shipping

[humble surge]

Depends

first one will wait a total of 4 days for plane

but sometimes you can't avoid that

they don't start those every single day

but rather it seems to be on a weekly schedule and all packages board those

or twice a week, idk

[robust siren]

https://tenor.com/view/batman-i-see-think-thinking-pondering-gif-4994872

[humble surge]

Atleast for that shipping line i had recently

[robust siren]

wait this means i can get car dioramas for hella cheap

unfortunately i have ran out of desk room

[subtle trail]

I need a keycap suggestion, I currently have a WilbaTech Salvation, what keycaps should I pair with it, i currently have GMK striker

[humble surge]

anything from china basically, SuperBuy allows you to order from any chinese shop

Or you can order yourself and just input your warehouse address, they can receive and you just submit it

[fluid ravine]

If I'm desperate I need someone to guide me

But interesting tho
Didn't think its be like this when ordering stuff from china

First thing my parents think of when they see "Made in China": BAD, dont buy, no eat, dont use

[humble surge]

It's been a godsend to procure new tech early i have to say

Or things that are limited to China even

[fallen pecan]

welp better throw that iphone away

[humble surge]

xD

[fluid ravine]

LMAOOO

Funny thing I use a Samsung

While my mom over here using her iPhone

Shiii better throw that 14 pro max away mom

[humble surge]

I use a chinese phone, so i'm "in" hehh

[fluid ravine]

It's pretty bad if you ask me

Got a dumb feeling my dad wants to get a 26 ultra later

[robust siren]

iphone 30 ultra pro max nano texture, glare refecltive coating glass 4tb

[fluid ravine]

[cloud crane]

All I need is that grapheneos oem phone 🙏

[fluid ravine]

With the power of friendship we can make one

[robust siren]

family.

[fluid ravine]

LMAO

Ain't no way

[robust siren]

https://tenor.com/view/theres-always-room-for-family-family-first-family-is-important-theres-always-time-for-family-household-gif-16055741

[fluid ravine]

[cloud crane]

Ask director feng to mod one for you 🗣️ 🔥

[subtle trail]

Current Build, anyone with a creative mind can suggest a diff keycap set?

[cloud crane]

Striker seems nice

[subtle trail]

Bored of it

[fluid ravine]

Oh

[cloud crane]

GMK Hi-Viz R2

[fluid ravine]

Lowkey I'm envisioning like white number row

[robust siren]

thats a very specific blue

[subtle trail]

Salvation moment

[fluid ravine]

I've been into that type of like keycap combination a lot lately

Just a offset number row

[robust siren]

im getting that soon for my kkb sojus

[subtle trail]

I should’ve gone for white or Black Salvation but eh, i got this one for 150$ off of a friend

[robust siren]

next week

trust

[fluid ravine]

Omd u spending more on soju more than I can ever imagine

[robust siren]

i think its a $200 kit now

[fluid ravine]

Shi

[robust siren]

but i can fill 2 60%s with it

so

technically

its $100

[fluid ravine]

Worth

[subtle trail]

I was thinking about the Whatsy or Gmk rudy

[fluid ravine]

Me with my black snails

Set on venom and wooting

[humble surge]

wtf bruh, was gonna buy new phone on Thursday, only for me to find it right now being sold out, no fucking way...

[robust siren]

lemme see what i got for kkb sojus

• base
• white alphas
• novelties
• stripes # row
• spacebar kit (from kkb motel)

wait

i might need to get kkb soju spacebar kit

[fluid ravine]

BRUTHA

[robust siren]

for the split 7u spacebar in blue

[robust siren]

yeahhhhhhhhhhh

[fluid ravine]

Oop I mean..

[robust siren]

i didnt get this cause it didnt have split 6.25u in white

[fluid ravine]

Reasonable ig

finds a reason for everything

[robust siren]

i dont need numpad kit

or 40s

[fluid ravine]

Yeah hell no

[robust siren]

who tf is using a 1u enter key

[fluid ravine]

[humble surge]

ohh nvm false alarm, it's only sold out in US warehouse, dumb website defaulted.
we in EU gucci :D

[fluid ravine]

I want kois

[humble surge]

my favorite are those ugly ahh vertical and long spacebars, like where are those even used

[robust siren]

40s just gives me a 3rd set of the same keycaps that were included with the base set and extras from white alphas

[humble surge]

Enters sorry

[fluid ravine]

Numpad?

[humble surge]

i guess so

[fluid ravine]

Oh hah

[robust siren]

@fluid ravine should i get

[fluid ravine]

Hangul?

[robust siren]

blue alphas with korean sublegends

[fluid ravine]

WTF

[sacred elm]

giff

[robust siren]

surely this isnt real

[fluid ravine]

[fringe quarry]

hot

[fluid ravine]

Wait that light bloo doe

[robust siren]

those came with the white alphas

i had them on in my last photo

[fluid ravine]

🐌

[humble surge]

🙏

[cloud crane]

I'll ask the designer to make it real

[fluid ravine]

Oh lol

Render look really light

[fluid ravine]

Gah dayum

I'm a liar

[robust siren]

cant even tell the case is blue

[fluid ravine]

IT'S BLUE??

[robust siren]

its a lot more obvious in perosn

[robust siren]

AHAHA

yeah

[fluid ravine]

Oh wait I'm slow

I forgot u got a clone

Bru 7am catching up to me

Wtf am I doing

[humble surge]

wot

[robust siren]

also yes there is cracks in the coating

bottom front

[fluid ravine]

CMON I JUST PUT DOWN MY PHONE

[robust siren]

why is there cracks in the coating at the bottom but not the top where you wont see it

[fluid ravine]

[robust siren]

oh yeah i havent tested if friction pad works with rakka yet

but now is not the time to pull every fucking switch again

[fluid ravine]

[robust siren]

i completely forgot that i had the friction pad at my house and not at my friends

also lubing stabs might made the right split a bit sticky

with the stabilizer pads

but whatever

i cant be assed to fix it

[fluid ravine]

Istg ik it's my fault for checking but shi I'm trying to eep LMAO

[robust siren]

nah

sleep is for the weak

[fluid ravine]

I am weak

[robust siren]

i havent slept yet either

[fluid ravine]

See this broken arm?

Limping

[cloud crane]

Actually go sleep bro

[robust siren]

milk deficency

[fluid ravine]

LMAO

[fluid ravine]

Aight bub

🏳️

[robust siren]

[humble surge]

no way, they shipped it (on a Saturday) wtf 👀 👀

[glacial wind]

eh zero domes on my spacebar split keys feels a bit weird

will take getting used to

[fringe quarry]

what

[glacial wind]

i'm using blank shift keys to replace the missing split keys on the cerakeys set

so there's no dome profile like spacebar keys normally have

[fringe quarry]

ohh

[glacial wind]

the sound profile of my board is super bizarro

[humble surge]

I should have the clip clops this coming week, shipment arrived in country yesterday

[glacial wind]

it's like the thock and clack are fighting to see who wins

[fringe quarry]

shit got reverb

would fr4 still be the best option to make a board even more muted / quiet (with nova switch in alu case)

[ionic breach]

not the best

[glacial wind]

it's hard to say since some switches just perform weirdly

and setups make things weird

like right now i have no idea what plate changes would do on mine because i have the thock of cerakeys fighting the plate and switches for all the sound profiles

[ionic breach]

what plate is that even on

fr4?

[glacial wind]

CF lol

which just makes everything even weirder

[ionic breach]

lol

its so cooked

[glacial wind]

yeah, there's no synergy here

this is the franken combination

[fringe quarry]

what would be better

[ionic breach]

prolly one of the plastic ones

like pc pp or pom

i dont thick it would do much tho

changing switches probably do more for loudness

[fringe quarry]

hm okay

getting non alu plates kinda hard

[woeful loom]

Do I need to remove the plastic, or can it stay on?” Wooting 60he v2 for tape mod ?

[fringe quarry]

so ordered a pp plate

lets see how those are

[sacred elm]

What plastic

[woeful loom]

plastic sheet on the pcb

[sacred elm]

That's tape mod

[cyan lark]

Might mean the PET film

[woeful loom]

PET FILM placed under the switches, That's what I meant by plastic

[tulip rapids]

what happened to that dude who listens to switch sound test with his air pods

[tropic urchin]

fuck you mean im right here

[glacial wind]

AirPods Pro 3 I hope, at least with an engraved case

[tulip rapids]

https://tenor.com/view/igris-solo-leveling-jinwoo-vs-igris-sung-jin-woo-bloodred-commander-gif-7605562122184626882

[chilly mural]

nooo, what about the top pro

[fringe quarry]

better then to do that on phone speaker

[tropic urchin]

not me instigating

[glacial wind]

Listen via a Logitech boom Bluetooth speaker with max bass

[tulip rapids]

https://tenor.com/view/bass-funny-gif-speakers-music-gif-9847669731192271282

[chilly mural]

Digital sound is merely a false recreation until you listen it with a studio headphone

[glacial wind]

I have one in my shower actually and that thing annoys me because it’s so bassy I can’t make out some audio book words properly

[robust siren]

@tropic urchin kois on the rakka

[fringe quarry]

So pp plate with pet film, poron foam inbetween and epdm foam below combined with nova switches

if i hear a single decible imma rage

[glacial wind]

I am loving how stiff my v2 is now with cf plate though. Didn’t have to tray mount because it’s stiff enough already

[fringe quarry]

im worried about stiffness too

pp + oring mount

😅

[tulip rapids]

yall making me want to jump from pc plate to cf

[tropic urchin]

you have to change your name to clackson now

[tropic urchin]

idk atleast upgrade to POM

[tulip rapids]

naw

[tropic urchin]

get off that dampening ahh plate

[tulip rapids]

we going all the way baby

CF BABY

[fringe quarry]

lowkey need cf for leggera

the others are too heavy

[glacial wind]

I think I’ll throw some ufo on the zoom64 kit with the aluminium plate and see how that turns out. Curious how ufo sound with alu

[robust siren]

this is just on fr4, now what if i get cf custom cut

@tropic urchin gigaclack

[tropic urchin]

can this god damn vella arrive or is the snow going to porch pirate my shit

[tulip rapids]

i need a heavier spring on these dcf

[robust siren]

i wonder waht dcf sounds like on bakka

[tropic urchin]

tired of waiting 🥀

[tropic urchin]

annnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnd you're

https://tenor.com/view/bane-no-banned-and-you-are-explode-gif-16047504

[tulip rapids]

i'll get my sled dogs ready. We ride at dawn

https://tenor.com/view/homer-homero-arre-dogs-homerdog-gif-21452972

[tropic urchin]

swapped to PP plate OG Fluxies since I despise raptors and i still dont fuck with this that much

PBT really is a bitch to get sounding marbly ong

[robust siren]

@tropic urchin kois, mobius, dcf

[tropic urchin]

ngl the first two might as well be the same switch

[robust siren]

wait yeah wtf

mobius has better stability

both top and bottom

than kois

[tropic urchin]

(shocking)

[robust siren]

kois are 1/2 the price

[tropic urchin]

(SHOCKING)

[chilly mural]

First 2 sounds like a beautiful chords that lead to 3rd which is the peak, but then one of the string suddenly snapped which leads the third one to sound out of place.

[robust siren]

but i did get a partial refund for the mobius…

[tropic urchin]

ion reading allat

[robust siren]

pov: you picked up an untuned guitar

[robust siren]

should i swap to all mobius and do a sound test

[thorn zealot]

Saw a package arrive at my house this mornin

[fringe quarry]

your keycaps came off 😅

[thorn zealot]

Wasn’t mine so I just threw it away

[tropic urchin]

technically you already have it with kois

[tropic urchin]

luckily we dont share a taste overlap

[robust siren]

well yes but no

anyways mobius have better stability

[thorn zealot]

That’s why I threw it away

[tropic urchin]

you take that back Neval

[sacred elm]

Good, I sent Gateron Orchids to you

[thorn zealot]

Yeah prolly not

[robust siren]

also thoughts on BOW or do i swap back to sojus

[thorn zealot]

I’m dumpster divin now

[tropic urchin]

needs more novelties type shiii

not bad but my ADHD riddled brain needs more stimuli than BOW

[robust siren]

this was a generic $8 bow doubleshot pbt keycap straight off the chinese press

[tropic urchin]

what the helly

[regal patio]

Why people have Something Church next to their name

[robust siren]

taobao goes crazy

[regal patio]

And it doesn't break from breathing on them?

[cyan lark]

Acolytes and zealots

[tropic urchin]

bluds not an OG he dont know ball

[lyric nimbus]

what the fuck is this build

cerakeys + CF plate???

[robust siren]

shockingly no

ive been yanking on them

[cyan lark]

Sir

[regal patio]

Hmm ok

[regal patio]

Why choose something like this xd

[lyric nimbus]

it has NO synergy

[regal patio]

Just throw a fr4 or pom/pp plate on it

[trail bane]

Nothin

[glacial wind]

Lmao yeah. I have to test out cerakeys for a bit for future guides stuff so none of the build makes sense

[regal patio]

That sound hurts

[glacial wind]

It sounds nice with my other pbt keycaps though, but the cerakeys makes it all sound weird

I will say the matte cerakeys feel much nicer to type one. I still hate that one of the keys is misaligned though

[regal patio]

Ceramic key caps are ment to be used on deep sounding builds

[glacial wind]

Well yeah we know that of course

[regal patio]

Have you tried putting nova switches there?

[glacial wind]

Not yet, first I’m just durability testing them on one of my setups to see how long the legends last

[regal patio]

Ok

[lyric nimbus]

im pretty sure the glossies are permanent

idk about mattes

[glacial wind]

I assume there’s probably going to be some cracking of stems longterm too but we’ll see

[lyric nimbus]

because of how the legends are inherently baked into the keys

[glacial wind]

I’ve heard the baking isn’t permanent but we’ll see

[fringe quarry]

we need leather keycaps

[lyric nimbus]

i was considering like

[glacial wind]

You have to realise my job is to literally test all the random stuff out, so this isn’t a build for sound lol

[lyric nimbus]

you know those old pianos that used ivory as keys

snag one

mill it into a keycap

[fringe quarry]

[lyric nimbus]

like

genuinely curious on how it'd feel

[fringe quarry]

i havent tried such a piano i think

and if i have it was too long ago

[glacial wind]

The lack of split keys in some sets annoys me

[lyric nimbus]

i mean

there are alternates

[glacial wind]

the 1.25u key is cursed

[lyric nimbus]

https://www.elforyn.de/en/products/elforyn/super-tusk/

there's this

[fringe quarry]

lul

[glacial wind]

I wish there were more domed 1.25u

[fringe quarry]

yall starting a lil split trend maybee

although keycaps are probably more custom keyboard people things

[glacial wind]

yeah when I see geon later in march I will beg him to add 1.25u to all his future kits

[fringe quarry]

dont think the avg wooting buyers will buy gmk or sum

[glacial wind]

if geon does it at least when he’s doing kitting then he always licenses neat sets

[fringe quarry]

do you know yall plastic to metal case split

for previous boards

[lyric nimbus]

i forgot

wooting buyers are typically gamers LOL

[glacial wind]

I’m sure someone knows but I don’t since that’d be product team info

[lyric nimbus]

well to be fair i did buy wooting because my 11yo razer keyboard was chattering

and i thought it was finally time to put it to rest

[glacial wind]

Yeah I think people forget just how normie the normie level still is for keyboards in gaming

[fringe quarry]

kinda seeing it when trying to sell a high end wooting vs like a stock 60he

demand is pretty different

[lyric nimbus]

as much as i loved that keyboard since it stuck with me since childhood

man that keyboard was ass

[glacial wind]

I have a close friend who bought a Logitech even though he could get a discount through me for wooting

Because he used to the software he refuses to use anything else lol

[fringe quarry]

atleast a he logitech?

[glacial wind]

Nope

[lyric nimbus]

bro...

[fringe quarry]

😭

[glacial wind]

He bought the $200 non he one

[lyric nimbus]

BRO...

wait

[fringe quarry]

lets be friends tho sno 👀

[lyric nimbus]

did he get that logitech 60% keeb

[fringe quarry]

i mean i had a g915 before wooting

[lyric nimbus]

the one made out of plastic

[glacial wind]

Nah he got the tkl with the knob wheel thing

[lyric nimbus]

oh ok

[chilly mural]

it'll feel nice

[lyric nimbus]

good

[glacial wind]

I think he bought the literal new model of that

[chilly mural]

The feel is almost similar to GMK keycap that's shining @lyric nimbus

[fringe quarry]

it was kinda goated back then

time to 3d print the 1.25s sno

[lyric nimbus]

im curious now

what would the sound profile be for a case made out of solid gold

[glacial wind]

I need to buy more tutkey 80retros sets

They all have 1.25u split keys

[chilly mural]

Money

[lyric nimbus]

like

similar softness to alu p sure

but wayyy denser

would it thock.

HYPOTHETICALLY

[fringe quarry]

just buy one brokie

[lyric nimbus]

how much would one even cost LOL

$100k+?

[chilly mural]

Buy it, then sell later when gold price hits its 5 year high

[fallen pecan]

just get a milled tungsten case, similar densities but way cheaper

[lyric nimbus]

yeah but tungsten is way harder/stiffer

it'll probably feel closer to brass

ngl i think im more interested in the engineering side of keyboards than the actual keyboard itself

once i finish up the polycarbonate case im going back to my high school to show off to my high school engineering teachers

say i made this keyboard

[robust siren]

@tropic urchin 210 candies

[tropic urchin]

scrambled eggs with some strawberries and blueberries this morning

[fringe quarry]

where everyone getting atlas from

china sellers?

[robust siren]

lander had his forwarded by someone in japan and i got mine from keybay but they lwk didnt know what they were selling

[fringe quarry]

did u get it for cheaper then you should have?

[robust siren]

nope they made me pay the difference

[fringe quarry]

wait keybay only 9€ shipping to germany??

what plate did it come with

[robust siren]

2 fr4

i think its fr4

one is 6.25u and the other is a universal layout plate

actually since i have it all apart rn

[fringe quarry]

a pic would be great

[broken notch]

Fake UFOs

[robust siren]

ufos too loud

me no like

[broken notch]

Fair fair

[tropic urchin]

skill issue

[sacred elm]

They're not too loud

[tropic urchin]

but they are heavy

[sacred elm]

They're tiny bit louder than DC Flux and more poppy

[fringe quarry]

so i can do iso split spacebar

Nicee

thx for posting

imma order ts

[robust siren]

you can do split 6.25u, split 7u, normal 6.25u/7u

[fringe quarry]

ill do split 6.25 iso

[robust siren]

split backspace, split left and right shift

[trail bane]

whatever you want

[fringe quarry]

7u not in stock

or is that only for the one plate

[robust siren]

yeah no keybay doesnt sell 7u

thats what i was saying about they dont know what theyre selling

[fringe quarry]

but is it pcb difference

[robust siren]

the rgb pcb is different

[trail bane]

only in led pcb

[robust siren]

theres 2 pcbs

the main board and the led pcb

[fringe quarry]

would it still be usable tho?

[robust siren]

i think youd need to look for à compatible case first

that fits with the led pcb

[fringe quarry]

ill probably dont even use the led pcb

[trail bane]

hard to say

[fringe quarry]

if that works

maybe i should watch a review or build guide

[trail bane]

leggera isn't

gehrin, tofu redux, tofu 3.0- yes

vella- ?

[fringe quarry]

is the led pcb thing needed for it to function at all

or is it like an addon

[trail bane]

no

[robust siren]

you can choose to use it or not

[fringe quarry]

so without using that 7u would still work with the universal plate?

[robust siren]

huh

[trail bane]

[fringe quarry]

if i dont use the led thing, can i then do 7u with a 6.25u pcb and universal plate

[robust siren]

yeah

[fringe quarry]

great

ty

[trail bane]

ofc you can

[fringe quarry]

better be sure before buying 😅

[trail bane]

without led pcb you'll simply have fancier venom60he

[fringe quarry]

yep im mostly interested in trying split and still having the option to change between center and left usbc later

and going back to iso

any keybay discount codes?

[trail bane]

Yeah, just don't forget to get a 3u wires if you're interesed in split 7u spacebar

[trail bane]

idk

code: DISCORD should probably work

[robust siren]

wait @trail bane im test fitting it rn

why wouldnt the 6.25u not work with uni layout screw in stabs

theres a foam layer that seems like it helps the led pcb clear the stabilizer clip thing

[trail bane]

it'll works

Or what do you mean? show me

[robust siren]

oh shit

i found one place it wont work

led contacts screw for 7u

[trail bane]

Just don use ts under your screw

[robust siren]

it still contacts without that spacer

[trail bane]

I don’t have anything like that with my 7u led

[robust siren]

wait is it safe if led pcb touched the case @trail bane

like the bottom of the case

whatever ill just add the tape mod to tje bottom of the led

wait

why does it fit in the gt-60

holy shit

ho lee sheet

[robust siren]

yeah ill just add a layer of tape for precautions

[fringe quarry]

time re buy stabs and keycaps

[trail bane]

K

[robust siren]

its perfect

[fringe quarry]

what case is that

[robust siren]

kbdfans gt-60

[trail bane]

Hype

[fringe quarry]

nice

[robust siren]

i have decided to complete ignore the screw for that one stabilizer

its also the right split spacebar that ill never use

[vernal plank]

Guys any white aesthetic keycaps recommendations

[robust siren]

i figured out the trick to mounting the rakka in the gt-60

i have to push it forwards and then down

[ionic breach]

pbtfans xray is the really popular premium one

[vernal plank]

Wait let me search

[vernal plank]

That’s niceeeeee

Idt that’s available in my country tho

Any other suggestions..?

[ionic breach]

it should be

theres a lot of vendors

but i do like kap midas as well

[ionic breach]

whats ur region?

https://ilumkb.com/products/pbtfans-x-ray

2 sets left

[vernal plank]

Bro so ex 😭

[ionic breach]

premium keycaps tends to be

[vernal plank]

Hmm what about those white ones with Japanese words on it

[robust siren]

@trail bane ik 7u wont have the led for the middle key which i am fine with

i only want it for capslock icl

[ionic breach]

which ones?

[vernal plank]

No idea tbh idk the name but the keycaps where they have like Japanese words on them

[vernal plank]

Oh yah btw I want a rlly aesthetic one but that’s out of my budget : (

[ionic breach]

i think wooting sells them

and its quite cheap

so get that with your wooting ig

[subtle trail]

I am assuming the 60 he v2 wont fit in a salvation with the gasket right?

[vernal plank]

I got da holy 60 case

[subtle trail]

cuz it's requring me to push too much to get it in the case

assuming it will be hard to take out

[trail bane]

But you have 6.25u led plate am i correct?

[fringe quarry]

have there been rakka benchmarks comparing mobius to other switches

[subtle trail]

anyone here with a wooting 60he v2 and a salvation?

[robust siren]

yes

[fringe quarry]

for latency

[trail bane]

That’s why

[robust siren]

yeah ik and im fine with that

uts not like i can see it anyways

[subtle trail]

I am assuming I need to use the foam that came with it instead of the gasket yea?

[tropic urchin]

Unusable

[trail bane]

Ponnie has(maybe)

[sacred elm]

Yes

[robust siren]

subtle purple glow @trail bane

@trail bane how do ik what polling rate the rakka is running on

[trail bane]

Always 8k

You can’t change polling rate

[robust siren]

got it

oooooo

red looks nice

i can finally differenicate between profiles now

this is the best discovery

[fringe quarry]

where to find

[trail bane]

ponnie review on youtube, or ponnie's discord server

[fringe quarry]

okay thx

[trail bane]

Ye, I’ve gotten so used to being able to tell which profile I’m using on the 80HE thanks to the light bar that I still haven’t really gotten used to the Rakka

[tulip rapids]

https://tenor.com/view/fail-heavy-break-fall-epic-gif-15238037

[lyric nimbus]

where is wooting KNOB

[robust siren]

@tropic urchin no full sound test rn here ghetto mobius

[trail bane]

Deep mo:bius when

[robust siren]

i have to get another switch opener for that

[trail bane]

ic ic

[robust siren]

fluxes uses the other one whatever its called

[tropic urchin]

Nice UFOs

[trail bane]

box/kailh

who cares

[fringe quarry]

we still on knights v4 best (with yikb slightly worse) ?

[robust siren]

probably

yikb was a pita to figure out but once you understand it its ok

[fringe quarry]

oh ye i have some of them

[robust siren]

btw if you wanna use split 7u, you have to buy 3u wires for yikb

[fringe quarry]

do normal wires even work for yikb

[robust siren]

dont think so

[fringe quarry]

just gonna get knights then

any brand recommendations for wire?

[robust siren]

their own wires are fine

i havent even checked if my yikb wires were flat or night

i couldnt be assed

just lube

[fringe quarry]

knights dont come with 3u

or what do you mean

[robust siren]

oh it doesnt

probably any wires will do

[fringe quarry]

so much stuff to buy

[robust siren]

theres these
https://divinikey.com/products/durock-stabilizer-wire?variant=40372747173953

[fringe quarry]

new gmk kit too 😭

[robust siren]

they look like theyd work for sw knights

but im not sure

its the same style

[fringe quarry]

what are you using

[robust siren]

yikbs

[fringe quarry]

but with what wires

[robust siren]

yikb wires

i bought them seperately

[fringe quarry]

oh on kbdfans

i see

[robust siren]

yeah

i have a lot of kbdfans sticker sheets now

i got 2 of the same ones

wait no

theyre all different

[fringe quarry]

ye imma look for other retailers maybe

[robust siren]

check aliexpress

anyways

stickers

[fringe quarry]

still more shipping then product but atleast to a reasonable amount

[robust siren]

no idea where to use these

[fringe quarry]

on your keycaps

[robust siren]

as if any of them are gonna fit lmao

[fringe quarry]

connect them for faster input

keycaps also kinda hard

i think it would make most for me to sell my current one and buy the bigger version

[subtle trail]

All done time to configure

[lunar sand]

Stickers. The final proof you like keebs 🤣

[fringe quarry]

keycaps matching the case

nice

[polar girder]

https://tenor.com/view/umpire-outtahere-bye-felicia-fuckouttahere-gif-11861870

[polar girder]

Have fun and game on

[trail sentinel]

When doing a friction fit with a Wooting 60HE v2 and an Optimum case, is it as simple as just dropping the 60HEv2 pcb into the case? Or are there extra things that need to be done?

[sacred elm]

Just drop it in, no extra steps needed

[fringe quarry]

so i ordered module, spacebar set and stabilizer wires

now all i can do is wait

and hope the taxes wont destroy me

[subtle trail]

I still can't get over how good knights v3 are

I have yikbs and durrocks v3 (lol) but yet to find something to beat knights v3

[fringe quarry]

v4

[subtle trail]

they came out?

dangggg more money to spend

[fringe quarry]

yup

haha

[subtle trail]

I just spent 70$ on a custom cable

@fringe quarry Link em I need some stuff to spend on, shopping therapy

[fringe quarry]

man just google

[subtle trail]

dont be lazy

[cyan lark]

If you have knight v3 please don’t buy knight v4 jeez

[subtle trail]

[cyan lark]

Buy a few sandwiches instead or put it in your 401k

[subtle trail]

pov: me being lazy

[cyan lark]

They’re gonna feel and sound identical

[harsh dove]

Knight V1 Enjoyer

[cyan lark]

The wise man approaches

[subtle trail]

not much of a difference i assume?

[cyan lark]

No

[tropic urchin]

the version change is just making it easier to tune

[subtle trail]

ahh

now that i think about it, the hassle i went throgh to lube and then holee mod yea fuck that

i will stick with the v3

[tropic urchin]

V2 to V3 made it easier to tune and got rid of long pole support and then V3 to V4 is just better molds ig and easier tuning from that

if you're gonna spend money, I wouldnt get more stabs unless its for a different board

not gonna get much out of it

[subtle trail]

Real

[cyan lark]

Alright, time to get out there with the shovel. See you out there @tropic urchin

[tropic urchin]

thats prob gonna happen on monday

[subtle trail]

what are like the S Tier switches nowadays, I am running Owlabs Ti HE, they are clacky what are good thocky switch? I have geon raws they are good but not the sound I am looking for, was thinking about WS Flux but 2$ a switch is insane

[tropic urchin]

if you want flux you would get deep clack flux on aliexpress for like $1 or cheaper

but none are really a thocky switch

[subtle trail]

I saw a tweet about those didn't know they already released

[tropic urchin]

best you can do is get a deeper sounding switch I guess and then try to create a thocky environment

[tropic urchin]

they've been out for a bit, but gained traction on aliexpress around September

[subtle trail]

What about that Gravastar UFO switch

[tropic urchin]

apparently they have a similar sound but louder than the pink flux (deep clack)

[subtle trail]

hmmm imma have to watch a couple of sound tests before I decide then

[tropic urchin]

theres the deep ocean flux or whatever its called or keytok novas if you want a quieter switch

[subtle trail]

I like em loud lol

I use Boog75 at work I have Jade Mini Es but since they barely release that specific version of HE switches there arent many options which sucks

[tropic urchin]

usually ppl that want thock dont like theirs loud, so maybe you might like DCF/Ufos and then run poron foam galore to remove any high frequencies

[subtle trail]

They come with stock KS37B which is thocky and really good but open bottom makes it so it dries out in like 2 weeks

one of my other KBs I have holy pandas, i wish there was an HE switch that sounds as good as that

[hybrid condor]

I want these so bad. But black or red

Or both

[silk hound]

looks good brother

[fluid ravine]

Koisss giiiib

[ionic breach]

i got kap santa llum

[robust siren]

im using the led pcb rn

[fluid ravine]

Weh

[robust siren]

and the mobius switches

[hybrid condor]

Ooh. Those look good, can I see how they look for you?

[ionic breach]

its a preorder

[hybrid condor]

Ohhhh

[ionic breach]

march i think

[hybrid condor]

Ok thx

If I don’t pre-order them, will I be able to get them later? Cuz I can’t get 90$ keycaps atm lol

[halcyon junco]

60HE V2 arrives tomorrow.
Looking for a light switch with no mushiness, going for a minimal finger fatigue build so looking for light actuation force. Any suggestions ?

Currently using cherry mx speed silvers.

[fluid ravine]

Prob go for 45-50g springs

[ionic breach]

there will be extras, but its limited

also u dont gotta spend so much on keycaps lol

[grizzled cedar]

Hello, I'm planning to buy the v2 module, does anyone know if the module fits the new KBDFans tofu 3.0 case?

[hybrid condor]

I know. its just that I really want keycaps like that lol. Im just gonna use these 20$ ones I have rn

[fluid ravine]

Kbdfans made a USB C FPC cable extension to make it compatible so yes

But you need to get their custom plate

[grizzled cedar]

ohhh I see, thanks for the answer!

[fluid ravine]

And I'm pretty sure you can only use top mount with it only

Yh

[grizzled cedar]

last thing, but the Tofu redux fits perfectly with the module too, right?

[fluid ravine]

Yes

[grizzled cedar]

thanks a lot!

[fluid ravine]

Np

[tropic urchin]

Will my shit arrive tomorrow oh boy

[fringe quarry]

we gotta replace the owlab from this

[thorn zealot]

no

[fluid ravine]

JSTTT

[fluid ravine]

With the koissss

Jk

[thorn zealot]

whats koi

[fringe quarry]

idk with what tbh

but they been there too long

[fluid ravine]

Gore got them while he was in asia

Idk I heard them this morning and been a fan of them

[tropic urchin]

I’d believe that

[fluid ravine]

Lol

Theres no snow bru

[tropic urchin]

I got my JST

[fluid ravine]

Wtf

[fluid ravine]

Maneeee

[tropic urchin]

Everything is supposed to arrive tmrw

[fluid ravine]

O

[tropic urchin]

Vella, switches and orings

[fluid ravine]

Havent got a update on my cf plate

Still gonna wait till Feb to order keebmat

excited for cf

[tropic urchin]

CF is nice

FR4 is more marbly/poppy

So I went back after trying but still good plate

[fluid ravine]

Ion like fr4

Tho I need to try it in my vella

[tropic urchin]

It requires using foam (or polyfill) and deep switches

[fluid ravine]

It might change my mind a hit

[fluid ravine]

I can put in plate foam

If I got some that fist laying arojnd

Holy typo

[tropic urchin]

I’d just use the case foam imo

[fluid ravine]

Oh

Ok

What u use

[tropic urchin]

That’s what I do

Depending on build I run cut EPDM foam/poron or polyfill

[lyric nimbus]

chat

[tropic urchin]

Running deep clack fluxies and soon to be UFOs in the holy trinity venom build

[fluid ravine]

Alr I'll do poly

I have epdm as well

[lyric nimbus]

i have like a few days to decide what kind of PLA spool i want to use

for the initial prototype

[fluid ravine]

But for a gummy mount case I'll do poky

[tropic urchin]

I found EPDM and polyfill can get you into a similar ballpark

In terms of sound

[tulip rapids]

just realized that keyboard has a moustache now

https://tenor.com/view/surprise-gif-25303097

[thorn zealot]

sounds like he to me

[fluid ravine]

Us when MX

[thorn zealot]

elite ball knowledge

[fluid ravine]

@sacred elm

Wake up

We got 2

Oh wait <@&1098943457654997093>

Lmao oop

[trail bane]

lmao

Gn

[fluid ravine]

Shi we got Logan Paul's in the chat

[fluid ravine]

Gn

[tropic urchin]

Wait let me withdraw before cam takes my money

[fluid ravine]

LMAOOO

Wait for meee