🔧│keyboard_modding

[distant raven]

FR4 is what PCBs are made of

[marsh saffron]

Well that answers my question then lol

[distant raven]

flame resistant fiberglass

FR4 is a subset of G10

[marsh saffron]

Man fiberglass has SO many applications outside of what I know/used it for

[distant raven]

G10 is not flame resistant
FR4 is materially as strong and dense as G10, shares same mechanical properties, but has a resin that is flame resistant

hence it's ok to use in NEMA applications

[marsh saffron]

Ive only worked with fiberglass in industrial chemical tanks, then the obvious automotive/boat/small planes

[distant raven]

Canvas Micarta, Paper Micarta, and Linen Micarta are ALSO phenolic resin laminates just like G10 and FR4.

[marsh saffron]

Wasn't aware pcbs were also made from it

[distant raven]

and your carbon fiber is also going to be a laminate with a phenolic resin

the difference is that your CF stuff is (usually) going to be a weave, rather than an aligned fiber.

which is why FR4 sounds deeper and thockier than CF

[marsh saffron]

Wonder how easy it would be to make a mold for mice using a 3d printed

Then make my own cf mouse

👀 👀 👀

[distant raven]

Not hard, if you do layups for fiberglass already.

nah, the substrate has a big impact in density

FR4 is way more dense than CF

because of how it's made

[marsh saffron]

Yeah we have literally everything to do it, + have experience working with cf already (entirely different application though)

[distant raven]

(Unless you're doing aligned strand CF and not woven)

[distant raven]

then for you, with your tooling and experience, it's a relatively trivial task, assuming you have the ability to scale down to that small of a dimension

[marsh saffron]

Perhaps I make a cf mouse and say to hell with 3d printed mice

[distant raven]

you could also potentially turn this into an entrepreneurial endeavor.

[marsh saffron]

For cf would a styrene based resin still work?

[distant raven]

nah you want phenolic

[marsh saffron]

The cf we used in the chem tanks is a bit different than what's used traditionally for car parts and atuff

[marsh saffron]

Can probably just grab some off amazon id imagine

I think the hardest part would be making the left and right click

But I can probably just make the shell as 1 and cut them out

And attach them

[distant raven]

phenolic are a thermoset resin, and really good for 3 dimensional stability, but you don't need the thermo or electrical properties for it.

so I guess you could do an epoxy resin for a mouse

it's just not the standard for PCBs because of the electrical / heat issues

I'm a bit more ignorant of polystyrene resins or this application

[marsh saffron]

The one we use in the tanks is thermo set

Yeah polystyrene is all I know

Its all ive ever used

[distant raven]

I think polystyrene is technically a thermoplastic and not a resin regardless

not sure if it would impregnate into the fibers in the same way.

You might be doing some sort of laminated wafer layer setup?

[marsh saffron]

Yeah dont know how itd do for this specific application

[distant raven]

yeah I think you might have issues for something this small.

[marsh saffron]

Yeah we're doing like 8 layer 8x4ft sheets

[distant raven]

Epoxy resin or Phenolic resin would be way easier to manage in the vacuum mold than your....

[marsh saffron]

Each layer getting its own spray of resin

[distant raven]

yeah you're doing a more laminate... yupo

yeah your process wouldn't be ideal for this

You'd want to talk to the auto body folks or the kit airplane folks about how they do it.

Or the bicycle part folks.

[marsh saffron]

My step dad has experience doing it both with resin impregnation and laminate

So id get him to help me fs

[distant raven]

I mean, you know more than most about it, and there's going to be a lot of crossover with what you do.

[marsh saffron]

Yeah some intricacies between the 2 for sure though

[distant raven]

the issue is how small and thin this stuff is

[marsh saffron]

Could be a fun project, while also resulting in my dream mouse

Just need to somehow make a mold of my mouse that has holes all over it

[distant raven]

you can get away with a lot more slop on a CF spoiler for a car than you can with a 0.80 - 0.85 mm shell for a mouse.

[marsh saffron]

Yeah

[distant raven]

No.
You mold it as a solid and then mill out the holes my man.

at least for your one-off

[marsh saffron]

Ig I could probably find 3d files for the shell itself somewhere online

Or ask wlmouse if they could give me some

[distant raven]

If you wanted to produce this at scale, then you'd make a die cut template and an injection mold.

[marsh saffron]

And then 3d print the mold from this

[distant raven]

but as a oneoff, you make it solid and cut it

[marsh saffron]

I dont want holes on the one I make, but the shape I want to copy is from a beastx max

Idk how id make a physical mold without ruining the mouse itself

[distant raven]

that's simple enough, you just use an ultra thin tape

[marsh saffron]

3d printing based off 3d files would be a lot better

[marsh saffron]

Yeah thats true

[distant raven]

or prototype an inverse from a 3d file

and then mold over the inverse (inside dimensional tolerance)

[marsh saffron]

Ill have to do some searching and see if there are 3d files available/if wlmouse has some available

[distant raven]

there's also mold release agent for resin

[marsh saffron]

Im sure they'd be supportive of the project they seem like a good company

[distant raven]

so you could use the REAL item covered in the release agent

and literally lay up over it to make an exoskeletal mold

and then you run your NEXT layup inside of that exo

and you can re-use the exo

[marsh saffron]

Im gonna add you, seems like having you on my friends list may be helpful on this project lol

You seem to know your shit

[distant raven]

like, there's a lot of ways to do this at the small level

[distant raven]

I'm an engineer. 😄

[marsh saffron]

Figured as much lol

[marsh saffron]

@tropic urchin

Cf beastx max soon(tm)

👀

[distant raven]

I'm more of the concrete, steel, asphalt, earthwork, civil and structural type.

But I've got a background in materials, electronics, power production, and have also done a lot of work with composites for hobby stuff (serious hobby stuff).

[tropic urchin]

you gotta sneak into WLmouse HQ and get some of their opticals ong

[distant raven]

so I'm kinda all over the place

[marsh saffron]

If i do end up making the shell properly ill just scavenge my beastx max internals

[distant raven]

oh and some machining experience heh

[tropic urchin]

i would trade in my entire mouse collection for a 35g viper v3 shape with Ulx speed and WLMouse optical implementation

[distant raven]

yeah you'd need to scavenge internals for sure

[tropic urchin]

id pay $250

ong

[marsh saffron]

Idk whether id want to reuse the base plate or try to make one out of cf tho

[tropic urchin]

mouse modding is kinda scary tho

[marsh saffron]

Or just 3d print a new base plate

[marsh saffron]

Im excited to get into it

[distant raven]

NGL, I am super curious to see how the Pro X2 Superstrike comes out.

HE mouse.

[young viper]

Usually if it's plastic and it's a platinum based silicon you don't need a mold release

[tropic urchin]

putting alu tape on my Ulx clickers to eliminate the click travel was enough to scare me away xD

shit is so delicate

[marsh saffron]

Well yeah its a ulx

Id be scared to blow on it the wrong way

[tropic urchin]

you can blow on it plenty

[distant raven]

OK. I'm a little out of my lane on the plastics. Most of what I've done with extremely tight tolerance epoxy work has been with aluminum, carbon steel, stainless steel, micarta, carbon fiber (exposed from milling), and fiberglass (exposed from milling)

[young viper]

I have no clue what this chat is about also lmao, I just saw that one message

[distant raven]

We're talking about using an existing mouse body to create a mold for the creation of a CF layup laminate replacement mouse body.

[young viper]

Ohhh

[distant raven]

He's trying to shave 0.1 grams 😂

[young viper]

Use dragon skin 20 silicone, stuff is absolutely amazing, also invest in a pressure pot, it removes all the bubbles from silicone and resin casts

[distant raven]

And since he didn't want to destroy the OG mouse body, I suggested mold release as one option of many.

He has access to industrial vacuum stuff

[young viper]

Oh yeah, honestly use Legos and dragon skin, absolutely amazing mold base and silicone

[distant raven]

And he has experience with fiberglass and thermoset plastic laminate layup.

[marsh saffron]

Hey now

[distant raven]

That's a really good home solution.

[marsh saffron]

That migjt be true but itd be bad ass

[tropic urchin]

instead of finding a new mouse I think the play is to mod the VV3 pro with the PMM kit

[distant raven]

Manage your expectations with this. I'm being serious, you might not save any weight at all on your first 3-4 tries. It might even be heavier.

[marsh saffron]

I think if I end up putting holes in it, I could at least make it sub 40g, maybe mid to low 30g

[marsh saffron]

I dont even wanna have a woven cf for weight tbh

[distant raven]

It all comes down to minimizing your resin use to the absolute bare minimum to maintain structural integrity and assembly.

[marsh saffron]

It'd just look badass, and ill have made it myself

[distant raven]

Ah this is only looks?

[marsh saffron]

Thats a flex

[distant raven]

Ok

[young viper]

Oh yeah, that's what I used when I was custom making dice, debating on trying that with keycaps next

[marsh saffron]

Mostly looks, any weight savings would just be a cherry on top

[distant raven]

Then yeah, you can go ham on the rein and save yourself a lot of headaches

[marsh saffron]

Once I get a working prototype, then ill chase weight

[distant raven]

Getting weight savings is achievable here but it would be a significant challenge requiring iterative prototyping.

[marsh saffron]

Yeah, id want to get a solid base mold that i can adjust resin ratio from first

Balance weight to strength as good as I can

[distant raven]

Because the overwhelming majority of your weight is going to come from the resin, not the CF, and most of that weight will be at whatever clips/snaps/fastener solutions you have to engineer into this.

[young viper]

Make a mouse out of aerogel

[distant raven]

You're NOT going to be able to use the stock clip arrangement most likely.

[marsh saffron]

Only mouse weaker than a ulx😭

[marsh saffron]

Clip arrangement?

[distant raven]

you know how most mice only have 1 or 2 screws and they rely on all of the clips/snaps at the frame sides to click in and fit?

that's where you save weight

[marsh saffron]

Ah yeah

[distant raven]

and that's REALLY hard to engineer on a prototype

like... you're gonna be using little fasteners all over

It's shockingly hard to engineer that stuff for optimizing weight/cost/ease of assembly. They spend a lot of engineering time up front to do that, which saves them pennies on every mouse pumped out of the mold later.

[young viper]

If someone designs it I could resin print prototypes haha

[distant raven]

yours is gonna be fasteners everyhwere (which makes it repairable)

yeah he was talking abotu 3d printed stuff

and there IS now CF filament stuff, it's just not "woven" look

[young viper]

It'd be lighter with resin, but my only concern with the resin would be how brittle resin tends to be if cured improperly

[distant raven]

well he's got thermoset experience

[marsh saffron]

I could use some form of epoxy or even hot glue(this would probably be very weak) to do it

[distant raven]

so I'm assuming he knows how to troubleshoot h is process

[distant raven]

nah hot glue would suck and so would bonding it permanently. You'd want to build up a couple areas to thread into with screws or brass female threaded inserts, and some countersunk screws for your mouse.

Think like ultra tiny ridge wallet screw sizes here.

[marsh saffron]

Yeah

Once I get an absolute final product, epoxy could work but who's to say ill never want to take it apart again 🤷

[young viper]

If I had a g502, I'd try this haha

[distant raven]

I think they're like T5 torx lol

[marsh saffron]

Ive got experience with thermoset, + my step dad's been working with it for the last 20 or so years. Shouldn't really be an issue

[distant raven]

you need to plan to have dissassembly as an option up-front

[hollow heart]

https://torontokeyboardman.ca/products/wooting-80he-modding-kit
if i buy this does it come with everything that i see people use in videos minus the plate?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gwRoMJAX874

[distant raven]

trust me on that

[marsh saffron]

Yeah just thought about that part

[distant raven]

you don't want to prototype it and then have it be a CF resin cage you have to dremel open

so you're going to want to th ink ahead of time about what the PCB size is

[marsh saffron]

Definitely small screws is the move

[distant raven]

and what sort of room you have around that and where to put fasteners

yup

[marsh saffron]

Where to put them would be the most difficult part

I think

Simply because the beastx doesn't have any screws up front

Its just clipped into the front of the base

[young viper]

Oh yeah youd be fine, ever tried the resin printing?

[marsh saffron]

I can imagine a few places where it would work, just need to design around it

[marsh saffron]

Im getting a resin printer in a few months

Which is what sparked the initial idea of making my own mice

[young viper]

Should work

[distant raven]

engineering the clips is a pain.
Probably easiest for prototyping to have 4 screws, one at each "corner"

And then whatever is needed to mount the PCB internally (usually 1-2 more screws)

[young viper]

Get an elegoo saturn, easiest thing in the world to use

[marsh saffron]

I could try implementing something to secure the pcb with the same screws that attach the base and top shell

[young viper]

Autolevels and heated tank

[marsh saffron]

Thats the exact one I was looking at 🔥

That, or the mars

[distant raven]

you definitely could re-use their fasteners and their inserts if you wanted to

[young viper]

Form the case around the pcb so it needs no screws lmao

[young viper]

I used the older mars and wasn't a fan, using the Saturn rn and it's amazing. No clue about the newer mars

[marsh saffron]

I would need to make something for the front to attach via screws, but that shouldn't be too difficult once I get the 3d files figured out

[distant raven]

you could also go with some form of pan head or countersunk fastener, probably a fine metric thread.

These are MUCH smaller than they look here.

For scale, that's a credit card size.

so those fasteners are TINY

[marsh saffron]

Yeah those would be perfect

[distant raven]

not saying to buy their stuff, just using an example that shows you scale

I'd source different fasteners.

Those use T5 torx

which will be MUCH easier to assemble/disassemble multiple times than stupid PH0 will be

[marsh saffron]

Id need to make sure we even have torx bits to screw em in

[distant raven]

you can buy the tool

[marsh saffron]

I think i do somewhere around here

[marsh saffron]

I love stripped screws

Yippie

[distant raven]

Wiha stuff out of germany is usually quality and price focused.

some of it's from poland, but it's still good

[young viper]

Magnesium screws lol

[marsh saffron]

Yeah id need to figure out lengths and stuff but that won't really be much of a hassle

[distant raven]

lol, gotta save those micrograms!

[marsh saffron]

This is gonna be a fun project

Especially when I get the final product

My god itll be glorious

[young viper]

Lol, usually they're used for surgeries too

[marsh saffron]

Time to go message wlmouse cord and ask about 3d files 👀

[distant raven]

so ... I'm seriously considering melting down some of my junk silver coins and casting (and then finish machining and polishing) a solid silver (well 90% silver anyhow) HE80 case...

and then maybe talking my buddy's father into engraving it for me

[young viper]

We were taking about this before😭

[distant raven]

I figure I might have it done in a year.

yeah

was just telling night what my project might be

[young viper]

How much would that even weigh

[distant raven]

I ran the math. It's about $3500 US worth of silver right now. LOL

[young viper]

Lmao, according to some real rough calculations, that'd be like a 35 pound case😭😭😭

[distant raven]

nah

2.4 kg

so like 5 lb

[young viper]

Silver is roughly 10 times the density of zinc alloy

[distant raven]

3

also LOL @ USD - EUR exchange rate.

[young viper]

Oop

[marsh saffron]

Show the difference in cad

Its rough out here 😭

[marsh saffron]

Then you have aussies which have it even worse than us

[distant raven]

LOL at USD - CAD exchange rate

[marsh saffron]

Yeah its brutal

[young viper]

God damn

[distant raven]

yeah, I won't go too much farther with this conversation, since it's easy to get political and this is keyboard mods

The point is, a silver case would be fun.

and a woven CF mouse would look sick

[marsh saffron]

Only one I know of is the m2k/m3k

From however tf you spell that company

Having a home made woven cf mouse is giga flex

[distant raven]

and you're going to finish your flex project faster than I will finish mine

[young viper]

Theoretically you could cast a he switch with solid silver

[marsh saffron]

More than a silver 80he?? Maybe not

But both are badass

[young viper]

The casing at least

[distant raven]

That would be a nightmare. I do NOT have that kind of jewelers experience to do.

[marsh saffron]

Id hope to have a good prototype by next summer

[young viper]

Fully silver 80he

[marsh saffron]

Not sure if thats ambitious or not

[distant raven]

also casting 90 of those?

ooof

the variance

I couldn't do lost-wax

I'd have to do somethign FAR more repeatable

[marsh saffron]

You'd be better off milling it

[distant raven]

and that's big money

[young viper]

I feel like after the first 10 you'd have the process down pretty well

[distant raven]

yeah and I don't want to have to collect all of the mill scraps from milling billet silver into switch bodies

also the RING would be horrific

[marsh saffron]

Mill x amount, remelt and cast the scrap back into a chunk then mill some moren

Definitely time consuming

[distant raven]

I think that a silver plate and a silver case will be great

silver plate will probably sound bad though

ring ring ring

[marsh saffron]

Silver plate + silver case with a nice keycap set to compliment it would be soooooo nice

Easily the most baller 80he out there

[distant raven]

90% coin silver is rigid enough that a 1.5mm plate wouldn't bend much.

I'd have to reclaim the swarf though.

[young viper]

A silver plate would be cool af

[marsh saffron]

I think with the right supporting mods and switches it could sound nice, but itd definitely be a very high pitched sound profile

[distant raven]

can't leave that much silver on the machinist's table

[distant raven]

it really would

silver case, engraved, and antiqued, and silver plate, mirror polished.... ffs that'd be sick

[marsh saffron]

Silver plate + ti he could work i think

The ti he is a nice high pitch as is

Might need some (a lot) of foam to try and help it out though...

[young viper]

I really want to buy a snap maker (cnc, 3d printer, and laser cutter) feel like I could make a lot with that

[marsh saffron]

I would love a cnc mill but my god the price

[young viper]

Oh same here

Maybe when I'm done here with school haha

[marsh saffron]

If i dont get in to deep with cars I might be able to afford one eventually

But a cnc would also pair really well with modifying cars

[distant raven]

cars are the pit of money

and I love them

[marsh saffron]

Yep

Same😭

[young viper]

Oh yeah amazing

[marsh saffron]

Basically sealing my fate of forever being out of money

But its worth it

[marsh saffron]

Hopefully gonna be driving a 240sx next summer 👀

[young viper]

Damnn

I'd love to get a gr86 but I'm only hesitant because of the Subaru engine. Yeah it's totally be refined the past 10 years, but I'd be more open to it if it was a Toyota engine.

[marsh saffron]

Nothing crazy fast, little sr20 build

Probably make a little under/rigjt around 300hp

[distant raven]

One of the fun toys

[marsh saffron]

Fun back roads rig

[young viper]

Hell yeah

[marsh saffron]

335i?

[distant raven]

M3

[marsh saffron]

I suck at BMW models from that gen

[marsh saffron]

Clean

[distant raven]

yeah that's with 50k miles on it

it has 100k now

[marsh saffron]

Na or have you dove into the turbo realm

[distant raven]

and a lot more track time, so.... more rock chips on the splitters

[marsh saffron]

Thats what we like to hear

[distant raven]

it's 4.0L V8 NA, not at all a good platform for boost

[marsh saffron]

Actually sriving your projects 🔥

[marsh saffron]

Oh those didnt have the b58?

Was that on later gens?

[distant raven]

The other fun toy

[distant raven]

S65

[marsh saffron]

Also God damn those 4L v8s sound glorious

[robust siren]

https://tenor.com/view/toyota-yaris-yaris-meme-whys-this-dealer-meme-whys-this-dealer-i-need-my-things-gif-14472248150583635823

[distant raven]

redlines at 7825 RPM yeah, they sound awesome

[marsh saffron]

Such a clean sounding engine

[robust siren]

i was looking at them actually

but it might be a horrible idea as a first car

[marsh saffron]

I cant wait to be hearing sr20 noises 24/7

[distant raven]

I somewhat regret having both rock crawler and M3 and not just having only 911.

[marsh saffron]

Ive got such a soft spot for sr's

[hollow heart]

ok i bought this foam kit, im hoping it comes with everything ill need minus a plate since ill use the wooting plat.

[marsh saffron]

Its nice having a fun ride for multiple types of driving though

[distant raven]

but building my own cage and bumper and building up that jeep myself was so rewarding, and it's so much fun offroad.

Lots of trills idling in 1st gear of 4-low. LOL

I get in a lot less trouble wheeling than hooning.

[hollow heart]

anyone like and or dislike the tape on the back of wooting pcb

[marsh saffron]

Im planning on picking up a 97 4runner for a overland/bush rig

And or a 90s Toyota pickup

[distant raven]

I think it looks super classy, and I like that it's factory applied. Unsure of the sound profile differences.

[hollow heart]

i really wanna find a 94-97 ford ranger regular cab short splash bed

[marsh saffron]

Is the splash bed the step sides?

[hollow heart]

yesss

[marsh saffron]

Yeah those actually look good on rangers

Not a fan of them usually

[hollow heart]

damn

this sexy boy

[marsh saffron]

This is my end goal with a 4runner

Nothing overly lifted, but a nice reliable bush rig

[hollow heart]

ahh im more of a lower/smaller car person, i own a miata

[marsh saffron]

I drive an 06 corolla xrs rn lol

[distant raven]

Winter tires on the planet saver:

[hollow heart]

so if i get a ranger ill prolly keep it stock height mabye lower by a tad

[distant raven]

I'd like to point out that that is 46.8 mpg over the lifetime of 5800+ miles.

so that's not some "best case" but that's like... lifetime of the car

[marsh saffron]

I love my little corolla, 175hp, 6 speed manual, 8600rpm red line, 2400 lbs

Such a fun daily

[hollow heart]

W

[marsh saffron]

The 2zz is such a wonderful engine

[hollow heart]

8600 crazy

miata a dainty little 7200

[young viper]

My Honda civic is on 140000 and still 32mpg haha

[marsh saffron]

Yamaha tuned 4 banger goes hard

[young viper]

2012, before they did that weird transmission

[distant raven]

this is the new civic hybrid hatch. I get like 62 mpg in town lol

but at 70mph it sucks a bit more fuel

[marsh saffron]

I would love to go itbs at some point on my 2zz

[distant raven]

This is a really solid platform for overlanding.

[marsh saffron]

Itb setups are surprisingly expensive, especially with such a niche engine

[young viper]

Damnn, I love the new hybrids, but half the lane assist crap messes with me. Ik you can turn it off, but there's too much

[marsh saffron]

Yeah thats exactly why I want one, + theres tons in manual

[distant raven]

have you looked at the Ford Maverick?

It's getting absolutely rave reviews.

[hollow heart]

miata so simple yet elegant

[marsh saffron]

My grandfather owned a soft top

Used to love riding in that tging as a little kid

Such cute little cars

[hollow heart]

lucky enough to have myself a hard top

since its my daily a soft top would suckk

[distant raven]

when people are like, "Why would you spend hundreds of dollars on a keyboard?"

I'm like, "Bro, compared to cars, it's cheap pleasure."

[marsh saffron]

Yeah the soft tops nice, when its bone dry...

And not -40

[hollow heart]

literally

as long as theres no salt i drive miata

[marsh saffron]

Fuck even -40 in any car is awful

Let alone a soft top

[hollow heart]

i mean where the hell u live

[marsh saffron]

Thats my hometown, Alberta Canada

[hollow heart]

oh

dayum

[marsh saffron]

I live out west now it only gets like -20 at worst

[hollow heart]

-20 still insane

[marsh saffron]

We regularly see -50 with the windchill there

[hollow heart]

i live in maryland, us

[marsh saffron]

Coldest I've been outside in was -56c

[hollow heart]

wth

sounds like i would die

also, can someone save me from my country

[calm pulsar]

nice, I've been outside at -40

[hollow heart]

my state is reliquishing historic plates, meaning ill have to get my car to pass emissions and inspections...

[marsh saffron]

It all fucking sucks tbh

[tropic urchin]

https://tenor.com/view/ak-47-kalashnikov-rifle-shooting-ushanka-gif-300098990173594460

[marsh saffron]

Anything past -35 just sucks

And it just gets exponentially worse past that

[tropic urchin]

How bro felt after posting that @calm pulsar

[calm pulsar]

if there's no wind it almost doesn't matter

[marsh saffron]

When its windy, it just cuts straight through any amount of clothes you have

You aren't warm no matter how many heated jackets, boots, or hats you have on 😭

[hollow heart]

how expensive are old cars in your countries?

[calm pulsar]

yeah that's why I felt colder in Saint-Petersburg more than in my city😭

[marsh saffron]

Depends on their condition/how sought after they are

[marsh saffron]

The problem witj my hometown is, its always windy

[hollow heart]

wtf is this bs

[marsh saffron]

If it runs, 8500 is pretty good

And isnt rusted to shit

The 123456 was prob just for visibility because itll put it higher on the list

[hollow heart]

it runs but "doesnt drive"

[marsh saffron]

Depending on what's causing that, still not the worst

If the tranny is gone, okay thats kinda bad

[hollow heart]

needs slave cylinder, like bro do that shit before u sell it if thats actually all it is

[marsh saffron]

The s chassis market is insane now

[hollow heart]

ive replaced my slave cylinder it took like an hour

[marsh saffron]

Slave cylinder isnt that bad

[hollow heart]

thats why its so sus

like he def aint being fr

[marsh saffron]

Id try to haggle a bit, but id still buy it if thats it

[marsh saffron]

Well he very well could

A lot ofnpeople sell projects due to circumstance/lost interest

[calm pulsar]

I rarely go outside to experience harsh winter but lets not mention that

[hollow heart]

i guess thats fair, but just insane to me

[hollow heart]

i dont go outside cause grass is scary

[marsh saffron]

I go outside a lot now

2017-2020, we dont talk about that

[tropic urchin]

NEEERD

[hollow heart]

damn i cant imagine working on a car in that kinda weather.

[tropic urchin]

I’m taking your ushanka

[marsh saffron]

It sucks

A lot

Especially because you cant wear gloves half the time you tryna do anything

[calm pulsar]

how will I do Setup now😭

[robust siren]

@marsh saffron second jdm spotted

saw an old nsx

[marsh saffron]

Oh wait your in Russia arent you?

[robust siren]

no photos tho i was driving

[calm pulsar]

yeah

[marsh saffron]

Makes sense you've experienced real cold before

🤝

[marsh saffron]

W I seen one for sale a couple weeks ago

Bone stock, 156k miles, 80k cad💀

Interior was in rough shape, but exterior was really good

[tropic urchin]

Over my dead BODY!

[calm pulsar]

https://tenor.com/view/tarkov-verified-verified-by-usec-this-post-has-been-fact-checked-tarkov-usec-gif-9723430833983656353

[young viper]

Gang is knight v4 stabs worth it compared to the stock wooting module ones?

[robust siren]

im still looking for potential cars 👀
though im not buying soon but i wanna get a list

[calm pulsar]

can't wait to drive my first car

[robust siren]

i really wanna get one

first it was the kkb sojus

now this

which is 5-10x more expensive

https://tenor.com/view/angry-thiago-mad-angry-fist-emoji-gif-17761307

[calm pulsar]

get 4 more keycap sets

[tropic urchin]

https://tenor.com/view/truemobster-true-mobster-juggernaut-kratos-hercules-gif-4262426448552739495

[marsh saffron]

my lil corolla xrs couldnt be a better first car for me

[robust siren]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-blink-blinkingcat-cute-funny-gif-8859604814399687515

[marsh saffron]

6 speed manual my beloved

[robust siren]

im going all in on my first

got a decent chunk saved up

[jade storm]

chadular

[marsh saffron]

mine was a hand me down

mom got a new car so i got the corolla i grew up in

[calm pulsar]

I got a H shifter for my wheel to hopefully build some muscle memory before going to a driving school lol

[marsh saffron]

ive been driving stick since i was like 9 lol

learned how in my dads 240sx on a snow covered gravel road

good times

[calm pulsar]

me getting (head, ears)ed by killa when I was wearing a visor and was looking directly at him😭

[tropic urchin]

I only read the first 3 words and I made the drew eyebrow raise irl 🤣

Hate this chat I swear

[cyan lark]

Your eyebrows got raised?

[calm pulsar]

lord have mercy

[tropic urchin]

https://tenor.com/view/seriously-huh-what-drew-scanlon-blinking-white-guy-gif-15628460

There we go

[distant raven]

I'd flex with well loved carbines in subarctic temperature snow pictures, but I'm not sure what Wooting would have to say about that.

[distant raven]

In response to this parking lot ninja

[uneven cradle]

The knight stab collection grows

[tropic urchin]

Parking lot ninja, that’s a Bear PMC

[distant raven]

Oh it's Tarkov

checks rules

[tropic urchin]

Tell that to the CarFax

[distant raven]

Nah I mean for upcoming photo

[young viper]

Is it considerably noticeable compared to the stock module stabs?

[uneven cradle]

They are easier to lube, takes less to make them perfect

[distant raven]

😂 I skip photo. Moment has passed and 80HE build has begun

[uneven cradle]

Would not say they are needed, these are actually for a MX keyboard I have coming soon

[young viper]

What lube you use for the stabs?

Just normal dielectric?

[thorn zealot]

for the good stabs like yikb and knight stabs, imo 205g0 is plenty good

never needed dielectric

[cyan lark]

What board? I'm still keeping my eyes peeled for an MX that speaks to me.

[calm pulsar]

I like getting my wires greasy

[cyan lark]

https://tenor.com/view/youre-out-of-here-your-outta-here-gone-get-leave-gif-14499600

[thorn zealot]

who doesnt

[young viper]

Alr, just ordered knight stabs. Canceled my wooting module also so I can just order the v2

[uneven cradle]

yeah as phish said for knights I just use 205g0 for the stock wooting stabs i'd use 205g2 or xht-bdz

[robust siren]

i would cut holes in my current cf plate but carbon fiber dust is horrible 💀

[young viper]

Do it

[tropic urchin]

Why you tryna become extra crusty

You already live in NYC

[cyan lark]

https://tenor.com/view/blendtec-blender-will-it-blend-dont-breathe-this-smoke-gif-23488626

Paw I got the black lung modding my keeb

[calm pulsar]

https://tenor.com/view/arthur-morgan-arthur-morgan-coffee-red-dead-redemption-2-gif-17671410240397805630

[robust siren]

i already get tiny CF splinters pulling DCF out of this plate

💀

weak ahh CF

[cyan lark]

Sounds like the CF is stronger than your epidermis

[robust siren]

i wonder if its possible to make holes for stabs for a 6.25u spacebar on a plate that also works with 60he v2 split

i dont see why it wouldnt

[tropic urchin]

Don’t be using those big words around here pardnah

https://tenor.com/view/saloon-enter-crowboys-gif-24849059

[robust siren]

oh wait

the plate that comes with v2 split stab holes do work with a 6.25u

[young viper]

On the simple squamous epithelium

[robust siren]

its just 4 extra cutouts, 2 for the swtiches and 2 for the other side of the stabs

[young viper]

Do it

[robust siren]

i need to custom order it

im not cutting the plate

[robust siren]

based off my very (un)scientific observations these line up with the 6.25u stab placement

[tropic urchin]

Nice lekkers

[uneven cradle]

This should be arriving
https://www.instagram.com/p/DOjFF2lEiD3/?img_index=2&igsh=MWpqbGwwdHd2YzAxdg==of

gffkeyboard

Today I finally got my hands on the TGR Jane V3 Rubrehose Edition - the first version of Jane V3, born from the legendary collab🔥 between @thegreatrectangle and @rubrehose
Special thanks to @klc_playground_official

The anodizing quality is on another level, and the polished finish on the toblerone and weight is just flawless - it honestly ...

Likes

463

Instagram

[cyan lark]

Pretty 👀

[tropic urchin]

Someone played cuphead

[calm pulsar]

good game

[polar girder]

Yo that’s epic

Enjoy

[thorn zealot]

the game was so good at maintainin my anger

from blowin a hole through my monitor

[tropic urchin]

Then bollow knight unleashed the gates

[cyan lark]

Hollow Knight is ez

Cuphead too hard

(skill issue)

[tropic urchin]

You don’t got that Bacardi rizz unc simmer down

[cyan lark]

https://tenor.com/view/wtf-what-the-fuck-the-fuck-is-this-wth-gif-17571836

sir I'm here to mod keyboards

[thorn zealot]

duude some of the characters in hk are so bad

it unleashed the beast from the gates

[tropic urchin]

Sounds like the perfect November game

[thorn zealot]

serves as a good challenge

[young viper]

I hated the mantis's

[thorn zealot]

woah there pal

spoilers

some folks here havent played hk yet

🤓 ☝️

[marsh saffron]

Okay thats fucking sweet

How much does it cost though gotta be absurd

[zenith berry]

https://tenor.com/view/arthur-morgan-john-marston-red-dead-redemption-rdr2-red-dead-gif-23087483

Just got my Wooting 2 HE, came from a Epomaker HE75 Mag.

Feels and sounds better, may tape mod, anyone know how to dissasemble the 2 HE?

Or got a video

[cyan lark]

https://tenor.com/view/maximum-effort-effort-deadpool-gif-11452161

[tropic urchin]

I don’t think you can do too much modding to the 2HE iirc

[uneven cradle]

[young viper]

😭

[marsh saffron]

its okay show the class

we enjoy bad financial decisions

[young viper]

https://tenor.com/view/do-it-star-wars-emperor-palpatine-palpatine-gif-799657800635657398

[uneven cradle]

Pushing close to $900 with some extra plates and PCBs

[tropic urchin]

Hooooly

[ionic breach]

goddamn

[tropic urchin]

Bros putting my build to shame

[ionic breach]

worth

[tropic urchin]

Need to spend a little more now thanks @uneven cradle

[young viper]

Bloody Christ

[marsh saffron]

jesus

its real pretty tho

[cloud crane]

Gotta pay TGR tax

[stoic ocean]

I have 1500hours on this games best game from rockstar for me

[zenith berry]

Real

[stoic ocean]

Guys do you think is possible to find the klippe t case ?

[floral summit]

Now that I’ve ordered the gt80 case as well as new stabs and switches I feel I may as well order a plate also. The only videos I’ve found so far have been of the Toronto keyboard man plates.

Are there any other plate options for the 80HE?

From what I’ve seen so far I’m thinking of going with the fr4 plate but just seeing if there are any other options aside from Toronto keyboard man.

[young viper]

https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256807856398027.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.main.13.5c932c72WKTDhf&algo_pvid=e43832ef-12dc-417e-ab03-ee97b399505c&algo_exp_id=e43832ef-12dc-417e-ab03-ee97b399505c-6&pdp_ext_f={"order"%3A"47"%2C"eval"%3A"1"}&pdp_npi=4%40dis!USD!9.94!9.94!!!71.68!71.68!%402103244817415493052642827e169a!12000045786376439!sea!US!763061848!X&curPageLogUid=fh0A1kV9kBxh&utparam-url=scene%3Asearch|query_from%3A

That's the only other place I know of that has 80 plates

[marsh saffron]

second hand yeah

check like mechmarket or some shit

[round hare]

anyone know which would be better for speed/performance? i was thinking of upgrading to l45v2 or the lekker tikken

[cunning yoke]

yo guys im boutta get the wooting 60he and instead of the basic lekker switches what would you guys reccomend for a good sound and where to buy them

im just lf any switch recomendations tbh

[covert solstice]

@tropic urchin do u have the pic of the stabs with the bands on it

[floral summit]

Ok thank you. I will check them out. Have you had any experience with these plates?

[young viper]

I havent had any experience with the 80 nor the plates for it. I mainly mess with the 60

[ionic breach]

heres a list with sound test

Looking for switch recommendations and soundtests? Here are popular recommendations in our modding community (updated: Oct 10 - recommended switches now have soundtests added at link below):
** * https://link.wooting.io/soundtests**

[uneven cradle]

As to where to buy depends where you live

[floral summit]

Yeah fair. Will do some more research on them anyway and see if there’s any reviews on them. For the price though suppose it can’t hurt to try them.

[young viper]

oh yeah of course

[cunning yoke]

which ones u think sound best

btw depending on where u live is there a diff selection of switches or r they all the same

[young viper]

its entirely personal preference, everyone will tell you a different answer

[cunning yoke]

yh true

[young viper]

your best off going to the sound test and giving is a listen yourself

[cunning yoke]

cuz on my wooting website most of these switches arent their

r these all switches in general?

[young viper]

yep, wooting only sells a few they produce and a few other brands

hall effect switches are made for multiple keyboards outside of wooting, yet are compatible with wooting. Most of the time you'll find them on websites like aliexpress or other keyboard website offering hall effect switches

[cunning yoke]

which are some of the best keybaord/ switch websites?

[glacial wind]

pick your switch first then worry about websites

where you buy will highly depend on what you decide on for your switch

[young viper]

https://link.wooting.io/soundtests

check here and figure out which one you like the most

[cunning yoke]

kk, tysm guys y'all are really helpful!

So, i realy like the flux (deep clack), owlab ti he & the duhuk herz

[young viper]

everyone likes the deepclack haha

[young viper]

Wuque Studio WS Flux (Deep Clacky)

• MMD Ainy https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256809702555279.html
• XIYOU https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256809845800846.html
• MMD Global https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256809702227830.html
• GGBOY https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256809841751975.html

thats where all the deep clacks can be found, all aliexpress, depends on your location for price

[cunning yoke]

bet tysm!!!

u sure these it right?

[young viper]

yerp

[robust siren]

i made that list

[young viper]

yerp

[robust siren]

https://tenor.com/view/angry-thiago-mad-angry-fist-emoji-gif-17761307

[young viper]

yerp

[robust siren]

i bought from GGBOY since it was the cheapest at the time for US

[young viper]

just had to order krytoc 205 because everything i use besides stabs is prelubed😭

[robust siren]

i got some cheap 205g0 off amazon and called it a day

[young viper]

yeah it was like 11 dollars something little

[distant raven]

So far, I really like the Wooting x TTC KOM POM on the PC plate in the Zn 80HE.

That said, I'm painstakingly lubricating every single one because they came totally dry.

I do have FR4 plate coming.

[young viper]

you poor soul

[distant raven]

So I'll compare

[young viper]

i know someone else had an issue with plate standoffs on the aftermarket plates, does the fr4 plate for the 80 have that same issue?

[distant raven]

It's a plus though, because I'm learning how to do it and what sounds and feels good to me.

[distant raven]

Unsure. Using Wooting's plate right now, so obviously no issues there

Debating if I want to do black alphabet keys.

[young viper]

yeah, i know if you ordered through kbdfans, you also had to order their 2 dollar standoff kit that they just don't mention anywhere

[robust siren]

rip mikdad

[young viper]

oh yeah it was milkdad😭

i still think thats stupid on kbd's part😭

[covert solstice]

does anyone have the knight v4’s installed

[distant raven]

Didn't they just release?

[young viper]

i just ordered mine lol

[covert solstice]

fuck

do i use the red rings

😭

[young viper]

i found a random chinese video about them if you want it lol

i think it showed installation

[young viper]

https://omnitype.com/products/swagkeys-knight-stabilizers-v4

order them while you can, theres like 2 left

[covert solstice]

i saw it but idt they used the rings

[young viper]

rip

[covert solstice]

the bar can be on the top right

or no

[robust siren]

its been out for a minute

[young viper]

yes on the top

[covert solstice]

ok tyty

[robust siren]

yes ig has to be for the spacebar

the rest have the bar on the bottom

iirc

[ionic breach]

yea

[robust siren]

you dont need to use the black shims thst came with it

those are only if the pcb is too thin

[fluid ravine]

yes

they're the washers for the screw in stabs

you dont need the shims like takmon said

[robust siren]

hi thockson

[robust siren]

https://tenor.com/view/muhehe-cat-muhehe-muhehehe-cat-muhehehe-smirk-cat-muhehe-gif-17142133339517585968

[young viper]

tak i forgot earlier, was it mentioned if v1 module plates would work on the v2?

[robust siren]

if youre not getting split then yeah it should

nothing is changing other than it going fron 1-8k polling pcb wise

[young viper]

i really need to stop asking questions and just get the preorder in😭

[robust siren]

buy now worry later

[young viper]

bro fr

i assume the module prob doesn't have the pet film

[fluid ravine]

haii

[robust siren]

im getting split v2

[fluid ravine]

yayy

i actually dont know if i want split or normal now i think about it

[robust siren]

sold my module

[fluid ravine]

for future purchases and shi

o type shi

[young viper]

I just canceled my module order lol

[robust siren]

i mean itd be a neat thing to try out

[fluid ravine]

true

[robust siren]

and gives me a reason to upgrade or swap to a v2 pcb

[fluid ravine]

honestly i hope to like not do much with my v2

just keep it simple

[robust siren]

i need to wait for plate files so i can order a cf plate

[fluid ravine]

take everything out
hopefully nipple case with the gasket tab mount will work well with fr4 and titons

[robust siren]

issue with the gt60 is that the whole keyboard will fall out if i flip it upside down 💀

[young viper]

Minor detail

[robust siren]

i already tested friction fit, its <1mm too wide and lengthy

[young viper]

Rip

[robust siren]

tbh i dont mind as i dont transport my 60he anyways

well other than to a friends house but i got a carrying case with straps that came with the gt60

so theoretically it shouldnt fall out

[young viper]

Oh yeah should still be fine

Honestly that's what messes with me and friction fit, like I know it won't do anything, but I like it secure😭

[robust siren]

oh friction mouting in the tofu

there was a zero precent chance of it falling out

i needed to take out switches and pry it out using the holes in the plate meant for switches

[round hare]

im thinking of getting the 60hev2 module
cf plate
tx ap stabs rev 4
still thinking between l45 v2 or lekker tikken (i like faster lighter siwtches)
anyone have any recs or anything i should change?
reusing optimum case + keycaps

[robust siren]

if you want the lightest without having to change the springs yourself, the mmd c1s are the lightest afaik

tikkens are a pretty decent step up from lekkers

[round hare]

what about the ttc kom poms?

[paper bloom]

Raptor HE V2's are bangers too

[covert solstice]

how do i get the tofu and the pcb to line up at the usb c

its kinda low rn

can someone help im tryna go to sleep😭

also it came with tape idk whats thats for

[sacred elm]

Module comes with preinstalled tape mod

Actual tape, not a PET film

[covert solstice]

yeah idk

[sacred elm]

https://link.wooting.io/soundtests

Everything's here mate, including sound tests, wobble ratings, spring weights, materials

[young viper]

Oh damn nice, and here I had tape ready for a mod haha

[young viper]

Oh sweet, do you know if we'll be able to buy the pet film as well as an addon to the module?

I have no clue where you'd even get pet film

[sacred elm]

No, because there's no point. Tape mod is there already. Unless you mean this PET film that goes on top of the PCBA. If so that's already there.

[young viper]

Aha okay, I was wondering about the PET film. Didn't know if that was included in the module or just in the full keyboard

[marsh saffron]

Is this also included in module or nah

[sacred elm]

Yes

[little glen]

Starting fights with people that say silver gt60 doesnt look great

[austere creek]

youre not

[austere creek]

the module is the same as if youd disassemble a preassembled board and leave away the case, case filler, switches and caps

youre not ready

for how good it is

[peak breach]

https://tenor.com/view/cringe-gif-13669406505701813608

[paper bison]

[analog mulch]

hello, im very noob at lubing, do you guys think raptor v2 factory lube is good enough?

[sacred elm]

Yes, it's good

[fallen pecan]

@gaunt plume https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=990354349133 xvx silent switch: snow step switch

[chilly mural]

naisu

glad to see more of that style of switch

[glacial wind]

Hrm same design as the tecsee and raeds I see

[fallen pecan]

Ttc ice god soon

[glacial wind]

I hope there’s something new with ice god

It’s been awhile since they actually did something interesting to flagship besides change the magnet

[humble surge]

patiently waiting on new UFO listings (perhaps the transparent version too)

[fallen pecan]

$1.7 a switch

[trail bane]

Custom Molds, materials

[austere creek]

people keep eating them

[trail bane]

"Exclusivity"

[floral summit]

Anyone here rocking the Aliexpress fr4 plate on the 80HE?

[sacred elm]

Yes, me

[floral summit]

How do you find the quality of it?

[sacred elm]

It's good

Keyboard fun store has good plates

[floral summit]

Yeah that was the one i was linked earlier today

No issues with stabs? as in no modifications needed or anything

[sacred elm]

Nope

[floral summit]

Ok i might just order it then. Cheap enough to just give it a go.

you rocking it in the gt80 or zinc?

[humble surge]

is this one listing/link? can you share?

[sacred elm]

None, plastic. Getting v2 instead

[humble surge]

or just share the item id, thats probably best

[floral summit]

yeah fair call. I currently have the plastic aswell.

Just ordered a gt80 thouygh

so will give it a go with the fr4

[sacred elm]

GT80 is cool, especially if you're modding your keyb frequently

No screws

[floral summit]

yeah seems like its super easy to mod forsure.

[sacred elm]

By the way, you can order 80HE compatible FR4 plate from KBDfans too

[fallen pecan]

https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=989371549074

[humble surge]

Thank you Sir!

Damn SuperBuy can't fetch details for that one, oh well.

[tropic urchin]

Keyboard funstore plates are usually perfect

Great vendor

[floral summit]

oh damn. didnt realise. I already ordered the case. Will have to pay shipping again. so might have to just go with funstore instead

[floral summit]

perfect. about to order right now. Might just go with the white fr4 and give it a go

[sacred elm]

Yeah, then get from Ali. Fun store plate is better, because it's compatible with Wooting cases too, KBDfans plate is only compatible with the GT80.

[floral summit]

Ive never swapped plates before so is it as simple as replacing the stock pc one? thats it?

Ive seen the toronto man one comes with a bunch of foams etc.

[sacred elm]

Yea, it's easy. You just have to install the standoffs

[floral summit]

Ok and i assume the funstore one comes with the stand offs?

[sacred elm]

They were included in my package

[floral summit]

and for my next noob question. Is this so that you can ensure a tight fit with the fr4 plate yeah? as stock one obviously has no stand offs

So essentially replace stock one with fr4 with stand offs so that it can be tightened down

[sacred elm]

Stock plate also has standoffs, they're built into the plate.

On aftermarket plates you have to install them yourself

[floral summit]

Ok yeah makes sense. just not inbuilt with the fr4. easy then.

Just ordered the plate from funstore. Thanks for your help.

[sacred elm]

Yeah. Just have to install 15 standoffs, then swap the stock plate with it and screw everything together

[floral summit]

Fingers crossed this one comes with the standoffs haha

[sacred elm]

It does. Otherwise, there would be an option to purchase them separately. I used their screws and standoffs for the plate, and then the stock 80HE screws to secure everything together.

[floral summit]

nevermind its literally in the description that it comes with standoffs lol

[fallen pecan]

Picked up 4 switches and they gave me a 2 in 1 puller worth 19 yuan lol

[humble surge]

Jabber you seem to be registered on alot of these sites, do you happen to have a JD account too?

[robust siren]

@tropic urchin

ig i gotta go with hypekeyboards and request for them to put tabs on the plate

[tropic urchin]

Pretty much

[reef oar]

^

you got the wrong role on splitboy

[robust siren]

#1 speedrunner

i dont use those

[fallen pecan]

i do but i rarely use it, the launch promos are botted to hell

[covert solstice]

ty thats how i ended up doin mine, i just dont know how to line it up now with the usb c

@robust siren howd u line up the usb in the tofu cuz its too low rn

[robust siren]

wdym its too low

[robust siren]

if youre using friction fit just push the top half of the pcb lower

or pull it up slightly

[covert solstice]

would it not fall when u type if u type hard?

did u screw anything directly or nah

[robust siren]

no

for me it lined up fine

[robust siren]

do you have the tofu60 or the tofu60 redux

[covert solstice]

redux

[covert solstice]

rn i have the brass plate, and the foam it came with inside, but when i place it usually its lower than the usb

[robust siren]

yeah the redux allows for left and right movement in the case

[robust siren]

is the hole in the case lower or is the usb-c too low inside the case?

[covert solstice]

the usb c on the pcb is too low

[robust siren]

huh thats weird

[covert solstice]

i can have it hover and line up but

i also dont have anything to screw it in rn

huh

yea

do i just have to buy the rubbers to ground it

cuz idt mine have any

[robust siren]

you use screws

or a singular screw

[cunning yoke]

Guys which website other than Ali express can u get the flux (deep clack) switches?

[robust siren]

in the top right standoff

[robust siren]

aliexpress is the cheapest

[covert solstice]

so just put a screw in here and rest it?

[cunning yoke]

I can’t buy from Ali express idrm the expense I just wanna know if there are any other places?

[robust siren]

yes

[robust siren]

wuque studios has their own website but its double the price @$2/switch

[cunning yoke]

Oh dam.

[covert solstice]

shii tyty, works now

wss building after my shift at like 3am so i didnt even think of it

yea

the tofu came with a thing of tape but idk what thats for

[cunning yoke]

This it correct?

[robust siren]

yep

[robust siren]

it did?

mine didnt

[covert solstice]

yeah idk wut it for didnt use it tbh

[robust siren]

the heck lol

no lmfao

[covert solstice]

i ended up chipping the side of the tofu last night somehow😭😭idk if ima cover it up lol

[robust siren]

i didnt know what came with my GT-60 before i ordered it

[robust siren]

mine is still in prestine condition after a year

[covert solstice]

yeah idk how

cuz it wss just on the table

nothing near it

when i was lubing the stabs

[robust siren]

average 3am activity memory

[covert solstice]

u rly are ur pfp

like i actually dont know what happened

[covert solstice]

fr

[humble surge]

Any chance you could fetch me the link for the ATK F1 V2 mouse? (extreme blue variant).
It would be awesome if you could Sir!

[cunning yoke]

Btw if I was buying the switches on aliexpress is aliexpress safe or similar to temu?

[humble surge]

Same rules apply, but AliE was a thing for many years, not sure when Temu came, but when it comes to popularity Temu only replaced it in recent years.

[paper bison]

The tape is cut into semi circles, they sit on the little steps your PCB sits on, around the inside edge of the case.

It's like a little dampener thing

I had to figure that out when I first got my tofu

[covert solstice]

ohhh

i see it now tysm

@robust siren ty i finished ty for helping😭

[opal halo]

Nice keyboard

[covert solstice]

tyty

[tulip rapids]

silver case?

[paper bison]

the yakult board gg

[trail bane]

XD

I forgot I left it here yesterday

[paper bison]

right next to the smietana

[robust siren]

everyone knows the feeling of downing these like shots

[covert solstice]

the white one

ima need to get one lol

[robust siren]

i finally recorded a sound test with pbt keycaps

on my current build

[tropic urchin]

try toronto keyboard man they have pink flux listed for decent price

[robust siren]

KKB Sojus (ABS) -> first vid
PBTFans Crosshair (PBT) -> second vid

[sacred elm]

Time to lube worlds most expensive frankenswitches

[cunning yoke]

Guys HMX Hyacinth V2U Linear Switches or WS Flux Switch (Deep Clacky)?

[humble surge]

wdym Flux is cheap AF, UFO is the new champion of coin

[sacred elm]

I said frankens

[humble surge]

that refers to what exactly?

[sacred elm]

Mix of 2 switches

[trail bane]

Fuu

[humble surge]

so there are cheaper frankenswitches then, got it

[trail bane]

I need those switches

[cunning yoke]

Guys HMX Hyacinth V2U Linear Switches or WS Flux Switch (Deep Clacky)?

[paper bison]

the HMX switches won't work in a HE board

so ws

[cunning yoke]

Ohh thx I didn’t realize the difference thanks!

[humble surge]

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005009888870031.html here they should go down to 67,5 EUR starting on the 1st of November

at 90 pieces that is

[austere creek]

they are tikken switches just recolored for a one off production btw

[trail bane]

We don’t care, I don’t care

[austere creek]

just to set realistic expectations.

[autumn temple]

Anyone know how much the V2 will cost in CAD?

[gleaming gull]

new collector

[autumn temple]

Does the aluminum case cost $239.99 and the module costs 139.99???

Thats expensive af

[gleaming gull]

always has been

60HE+ module is 155€ here

[autumn temple]

Wdym always has been the price hasnt been revealed yet?

[sacred elm]

v2 module is same price as v1

[cyan lark]

I think they meant that Wooting has always had premium pricing.

[sacred elm]

and $240 isn't even bad for a prebuilt alu case

[gleaming gull]

https://wooting.io/post/wooting-60he-v2-update-launch-dates-pricing-and-new-switches

[autumn temple]

I guess im just saying the aluminum case is ssuper expensive holy shit

its 240 for the aluminum

perhaps not the module then

[cyan lark]

240 must be for the prebuilt, not just the case...

[sacred elm]

Yeah lol

[autumn temple]

no but thats not what it implies ill show you

[sacred elm]

$240 is prebuilt

[autumn temple]

Ohhhhhh

I understand

[cyan lark]

🤷 idk what to tell ya

[gleaming gull]

yeah that's prebuild

[autumn temple]

Oh I understand so 60 HE V2 ALUMINUM is the full package?

Ohhhhhh

My bad

[gleaming gull]

yes

[cyan lark]

Yes

[autumn temple]

I was like holy fuck tahts expensive af just for the aluminum case

So much can we expect the aluminum case to cost

[cyan lark]

So that's case, module, stabs, caps

[autumn temple]

I guess we dont know how much the aluminum case is ?

Standalone

[cyan lark]

I think you could extrapolate that it's gonna be in the $100 range

dunno if it's been announced

[autumn temple]

I suppose

Wait a second though isnt the prebuilt supposed to be more expensive then buying the case and module seperately

[cyan lark]

IIRC the prebuilt and self assembly routes were almost exactly the same price for the 80HE

[autumn temple]

If you are assembling it yourself it should be cheaper

[cyan lark]

So it was more a question of whether you want to use your own parts, or customize, and if so maybe a prebuilt was not helpful for you.

[glossy pagoda]

There's a 10 dollar or euro premium for the module because of the added logistics, packaging, and pick/pack costs

[cyan lark]

https://tenor.com/view/big-lebowski-the-dude-your-opinion-gif-4476328

[glossy pagoda]

If you already have just one component you'd prefer to use, keycaps or switches for example, then it's cheaper to get the module

[cyan lark]

Re: it should be more expensive to buy the pre-built

[autumn temple]

Is there anything special about the switchy heist tikken switches or are they just a different colour?

[glossy pagoda]

https://tenor.com/view/spoilers-pandorica-river-song-doctor-who-gif-18293417

[cyan lark]

They're hand lubed by artisans to look like:

[austere creek]

||they are just recolored tikkens||

[autumn temple]

Ah I see

[gleaming gull]

...with a twist?!

[austere creek]

the twist is you can only get them during the campaign

[chilly mural]

I like the pricing

[autumn temple]

Yo one other question dudes technically cant you just use 60HE+ friction fit into the V2 aluminum case and be done

[glossy pagoda]

Yes, mostly

[autumn temple]

And you dont need the 60HE V2 module

[austere creek]

i mean if all you want is the new case i guess?

[autumn temple]

Also does the aluminum case come with the silicone block?

[glacial wind]

That would be a bizarro move to buy a v2 just for the case though…

[autumn temple]

Why lol

[glacial wind]

Why wouldn’t you use the v2 module?

[autumn temple]

Cause its expensive

its $200 CAD

[glacial wind]

We don’t sell the case by itself though

[autumn temple]

Oh

You have to buy the case with the module

[glacial wind]

At that point you can buy one of many cases if all you want is a new case, unless for some reason you’re really attached to the v2 metal case

[autumn temple]

Doesnt the V2 aluminum case come with either silicone block or EPDM foam?

[glacial wind]

yeah but we provide those options in the past as well with v1 stuff

are you meaning all the sound upgrades we did to the v2?

Those come as part of the v2 module sandwich, not the case

[autumn temple]

No im talking about the bottom case dampener the silicone block

Not in the module sandwich

[glacial wind]

Yeah those things have been available in various forms in v1 kits with various setups already

That’s not super new to v2 case or anything

[autumn temple]

Yeah okay but im asking if you buy the module kit does that silicone block come with the case?

Like when I go to pre-order the module + case does that silicone block come with the case

[glacial wind]

Yes, those are part of the case

[autumn temple]

Dont you get the option to choose either EPDM or Silicone block ?

[glacial wind]

No both come with the case

[autumn temple]

Ohhhhh ok gotcha

[glacial wind]

Then you use whatever you want

[autumn temple]

Wait does a silicone block come with the V1 HE+ also???

And I didnt notice that

The prebuilt 60 HE +

[glacial wind]

Can’t remember if it came with v1 but we included all sorts of random bits like that with optimum and friction fit setups in past

[robust siren]

no

it was just foam

[autumn temple]

Thanks

Cause I prefer the silicone block sounds so much better to me

But getting the option to use both is nice

[glacial wind]

Some 3rd party cases come with it too, like I think I have silicone block sitting around from the old 60% freebird case

[autumn temple]

Ah I see

@glacial wind Can I ask you about a wooting video sound test I saw I will link it and then ask my question if you dont mind

[glacial wind]

sure

[autumn temple]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xFCu2hSg-oQ&t=216s

So the mods in this video are:

[glacial wind]

oh man that's an old one

[autumn temple]

• Friction fit, -pc plate, -silicone sandwich pad, -EPDM bottom case foam ?

And that is the optimum case correct?

[robust siren]

yes

[autumn temple]

And also does the optimum case come with the friction fit pad for the module?

[robust siren]

i think so

[glacial wind]

what do you mean by - though

as in it's part of the mod?

[sacred elm]

yes

[autumn temple]

yes