🔧│keyboard_modding

[glacial wind]

yeah you can call that whatever you want jump or no jump

[tawdry tree]

it worked the same last I tried, but just looked different. I’ll check again tho to be sure.

[glacial wind]

what i'm saying is these are way below either way, in that whatever fix simon had before can't cover these it seems

there's a few that seem borderline within reach of it, but many can't

you're trying to build a testing rig?

[tawdry tree]

on wolf’s ss, they’re definitely within the range where they can calibrate properly it just doesn’t happen automatically afaik

[tidal frigate]

No migss is keyboard reviewer

[glacial wind]

i'm telling you i have these in now, they don't auto calibrate

[tawdry tree]

and not specifically through hundreds of presses either (afaik**).

[glacial wind]

only a few are able to but the large majority are not able to calibrate

they're just way too far below whatever patch we did before

[tawdry tree]

yeah.

[tidal frigate]

After me spamming comments he got half of testing rig

But now he asks where to get piston

[tawdry tree]

“testing rig” 😭

[tawdry tree]

solenoid? 😂

[tidal frigate]

Ok, look atleast he tried

[glacial wind]

i mean, i don't think it does him any good. His channel isn't built on that

he does 'x item killed y leader?!' videos over and over. Even if he tests it adds nothing to the videos

[tidal frigate]

He used numbers on manufacturer website before

[glacial wind]

yeah i mean the problem is he can't do the testing you want

[tidal frigate]

Well he does it with hand

[glacial wind]

because if it shows all the boards he reviews don't measure up then he can't review them the way he's doing it

i don't think he's ever going to meet your standard of testing basically

because it would kill his channel

[tidal frigate]

Look atleast he tries to improve

[glacial wind]

some of these keys don't even hit 2.9mm in analog monitor

that's how far below they are

[little glen]

Sno you removed the gat split stem from the switch recommendation picture?

[fallen pecan]

A bunch of switches showed up on Haimu’s store: Aurora, Silents, Celadons and Pandas

[glacial wind]

yeah if wooting's auto calibration can't handle them properly right now due to them being so far below typical expected magnet range then can't be recommending them for now

[little glen]

Ah

So they fucked up the magnets huh

[tawdry tree]

I don’t think they changed the magnets at all

[glacial wind]

i'm not sure yet. It could be to do with them being super short travel and using the same magnets as before, so the flux range changed

[tawdry tree]

but they’re higher up because of the stem as well

[glacial wind]

yeah basically what aligner said, they changed the design but not the magnets so the flux range went way different from what boards were calibrating to before

so it's coming up way weaker, that's my guess anyway

[glacial wind]

I was looking forward to trying out sparks for a week in the v2, but i guess it's tikkens again

[tawdry tree]

omg lol

[tidal frigate]

Lekker tikken?

[tawdry tree]

550 on a 1.2mm PCB

[tidal frigate]

Whats diffrence between 1.2mm pcb and 1.6mm pcb

[glacial wind]

the good news is I assume it's calibratable, but just no one has their software set to calibrate this weird range so will take time to get that added

[tawdry tree]

1.6 is thicker so the sensors is 0.4mm further away from the magnet

[tawdry tree]

most are but the question is how long it’ll take 😭

[glacial wind]

i let simon know already so we can get some in the office to get them officially tested and the magnetic info recorded

[fallen pecan]

think it's just because the magnet is encapsulated in plastic for the split stems

[glacial wind]

wooting recently built some nice testing machines for switch data, so it's just a matter of finding what switches need more info and are popular and i pass on that info to the hardware folks

[tawdry tree]

woot should list the magnetic flux ranges of their boards, no fucking idea why they don’t

already suggested it a while ago

[tawdry tree]

yeah and an even shorter travel according to sno

[glacial wind]

not all the switch companies communicate and talk etc with feedback

[tawdry tree]

you don’t need feedback to list what your boards are compatible with

[glacial wind]

we'd be happy to provide flux ranges to switch makers

[tawdry tree]

it’d be easy to spot which switches will work and which don’t if they’d actually list it lol

[tawdry tree]

I don’t think any switch manu makes switches specifically for woot anymore, ngl

[glacial wind]

i think you're assuming some nice peaceful world where the switch makers and companies are all friends

that is unfortunately not really how it goes

[tawdry tree]

you don’t need to know anything anything about a switch to know what magnetic flux your boards are compatible with

[glacial wind]

i think you're missing what i'm saying but it's ok

[tawdry tree]

I’m saying that it’d be nice if woot listed what magnetic flux ranges their boards are compatible with so we’d know before hand if the Sparks for example would work.

I’m sure people spent money on Sparks already assuming they’d be optimally compatible.

[glacial wind]

i'm not even sure they are incompatible on all boards or if it's just a patch that needs to be done

that stuff is constantly changing, especially since we're in middle of doing all the switch selector stuff

the best we can really do is throw it into a tester and see, because sometimes companies don't even list whether they mean 1.2 or 1.6 or have inaccurate data listed

we'd end up needing to test it either way

[tawdry tree]

Boards with the improved scanning was compatible with more than the boards without that improvement, so if they don’t work on the boards with the improved scanning, I’m pretty sure they won’t on older boards as well.

[glacial wind]

yeah but the boards with improved scanning are also being updated with switch selector data etc

[tawdry tree]

just list the ranges 😭

[glacial wind]

so what is compatible is changing over time

[tawdry tree]

if companies list their switches wrong or not at all, that’s on them

[glacial wind]

a lot don't even list magnetic flux values

[tawdry tree]

but it’s no excuse to not list the compatibility of yours boards imo

[tawdry tree]

it is, and that can be updated

[glacial wind]

i'd like a more useful solution honestly vs. a partial solution

something a bit more permanent because there's still way too much 'oh x is wrong here' that can occur even if we just list our flux values

[tawdry tree]

it’d be better than now

as now we have nothing to go off at all

[glacial wind]

better in some ways, worse in some other ways

what happens when someone confuses 1.6 vs 1.2 values

[tawdry tree]

just people measuring one switch and comparing them to another

[tawdry tree]

again, better than nothing imo

[glacial wind]

i think it's no better

because then you run into issues with causing a different issue to solve one issue

[tawdry tree]

would people have bought as many sparks if they knew they weren’t optimally compatible?

[glacial wind]

just changing the problem and in the end it's still on me to run it through a tester to see if they really are compatible

[tawdry tree]

no new issues would arise man 😭

[glacial wind]

the solution is I just have to be the one to run them through a tester, because listing flux values doesn't solve the problem for all switches

we'd still need someone to run them through testers

[tawdry tree]

that you’d need to do anyway and you can’t do all switch or even most

[glacial wind]

especially when only some brands like ttc even tell you if you're looking at 1.6 or 1.2 values if they even list those values at all

[tawdry tree]

it’s a lot harder to upkeep that than list the compatible ranges

[glacial wind]

hence why I'm literally employed to do that

compatible range is great but it doesn't solve a lot of the issues

it's like a leaky bandaid that's still confusing to the average joe, especially when average joe is 100% not checking compatible via flux ranges

[tawdry tree]

it would, and you’d be able to list the 1.2mm PCB value as well

woot would*

[glacial wind]

yeah, but then how do you account for the fact most brands don't tell you which values they're using

if they're using them at all

[tawdry tree]

then that’s on them

[glacial wind]

and so we end up with many problems still that aren't solved by listing flux values

[tawdry tree]

if the flux values are that close that 1.2mm would be compatible but 1.6 wouldn’t, I wouldn’t buy that switch anyway because it’s very likely that the tolerances are within those values

[glacial wind]

yes but you are not the person who would need this data to begin with

you'd likely be among the first to know if a switch is compatible due to many other sources of info and your own understanding

[tawdry tree]

it would be better than nothing

and it’s easy enough to list

[glacial wind]

i hate the argument of better than nothing to implement changes that don't overall really improve something

[tawdry tree]

would people have bought the sparks if the values were listed? they’d know they wouldn’t be optimally compatible

[glacial wind]

improving something 5% when you introduce 4% more problems then saying "oh but it's 1% better"

[tawdry tree]

it’s an odd thing to defend imo

[glacial wind]

it's not a defence, it's just trying to come up with a better solution

[tawdry tree]

it doesn’t introduce more problems

[glacial wind]

many i'd bet

you underestimate how many people even look at flux ranges

or rather overestimate here

they don't even know what flux ranges mean

[tawdry tree]

no, I mean we’d have known they wouldn’t be compatible and you wouldn’t have recommended them for sure

[glacial wind]

well no, i'd still have to run them through our internal tester regardless

which is why in our official database we have a column for testing

[tawdry tree]

you can’t test all switches within a reasonable timeframe man, trust me 😂😂

[glacial wind]

to mark whether the magnets been tested yet or not for full compatibility

[tawdry tree]

most popular ones, sure

[glacial wind]

yes, and that's why they're not all tested

we have no intention to test every single switch, just the reasonable ones

[tawdry tree]

which brings us back to my point again, list the ranges!!

[glacial wind]

sigh.

okay i give up, it's talking to a brick wall

good luck

[tawdry tree]

suggest it to simon pls

[dusty pebble]

you bought em?

[tawdry tree]

he can decide

or whoever decides what’s put on the product listing

[glacial wind]

okay i heard back from simon regarding what's likely causing the spark issue

[tawdry tree]

weaker magnetic flux at bottom out with the same or similar magnetic flux at resting positions 👍

[glacial wind]

kinda but also to do with our o-ring fallback

if magnet is weaker bottom out it hits the o-ring fallback behaviour, but good news is that's not a super hard fix and will be within the switch selector stuff

[tawdry tree]

the jump! who would’ve thought 😄

switch selector this year hopefully

😭

[glacial wind]

we're actually not far last I heard (from it going to beta)

[tawdry tree]

80% with another 80% to go

https://tenor.com/view/sleepy-dog-sleeping-sleeping-dog-dog-sleeping-tiny-eepy-dog-gif-2292331323183720739

[glacial wind]

i know roughly when, but if i tell you then simon will add another week to the timer

so you guys will have to wait

[north girder]

for a bit of money yes but definitly below retail price

[north girder]

i already dmed simon about it but he never replies

if yall talking about calibration update

not regarding release but regarding the issue

[glacial wind]

please don't dm staff directly, i'll pass on needed info

[north girder]

well he dmed me first on gamescom

[glacial wind]

a lot of staff already get a lot of random dms so it's often not read or replied to

people like to send DMs for random help ticket stuff

[north girder]

lmao

actually i thanked him for the chocolate

[tawdry tree]

“@ everyone”

[glacial wind]

i meant the release date for the switch selector. Simon said the calibration issue should be fixed with that update once we have gateron sparks into the selector basically

[north girder]

me neither but i assume its the meassurable strenght
either from pressed to released or the tollerance idk tho

[north girder]

ah thats great

gonna dm him 10x a day from now on

[glacial wind]

he's going to give you the shafie treatment soon

[tawdry tree]

yeah, magnetic flux at the sensor at different stages in the press basically

[glacial wind]

where every time you dm him he adds a day to his release schedule

[north girder]

he actually does that? lmao?

[tawdry tree]

that’s collective punishment

unethical!

[glacial wind]

shafie has learnt. he now asks other people to see if simon said anything lol

[north girder]

well if he only says hell do so but actually doesnt it isnt collective punishment and only selective mental punishment

[tawdry tree]

truee

[north girder]

so we dont know

[tawdry tree]

it’s already been too long to me, I can’t take it anymore

[north girder]

now that i type a bit more on my new switches i really start to like them

i wonder how they compare to raptor v2s

[tawdry tree]

well, there’s no spring crunch on any Gaterons

[sacred elm]

Actually he started doing that because of aligner

It's all his fault

[tawdry tree]

https://tenor.com/view/stallipiano-gif-26949640

[little glen]

Everything is aligner‘s fault

Split spacebar layout is also his fault if you think about it

[tropic urchin]

Daily Simon appreciation thread 🌹

[sacred elm]

[tawdry tree]

https://tenor.com/view/50-cent-middle-finger-maywether-50cent-gif-6987833034228886063

[glacial wind]

i still pray every day that we release a 64% but in the split version that aligner hates, just to see the pure crashout

it would be the greatest crashout our discord has seen

[tropic urchin]

Someone needs to send Simon some flux samples for switch selector, maybe thockfather or cam can since they don’t like them

[glacial wind]

i need to buy flux to test them eventually, but problem is it's almost completely non requested so i haven't prioritised them in the testing lol

[sacred elm]

#SaveFLUX

[woven parrot]

Help me mod my keeb

[glacial wind]

i think it's just shafie that keeps asking about them lol

[tropic urchin]

Well we can change that

[tropic urchin]

Where flux test

[woven parrot]

Help my wooting 60he sound better please what do I need

[glacial wind]

i don't know if wuque got a new marketing guy actually, otherwise i could just email them

[woven parrot]

tell me

[tropic urchin]

I’m like cursed switch enjoyer my mains are the crunchy raptors and strong magnet flux

[glacial wind]

last i heard they were still looking for a new marketing influencer manager person, but that was a bit ago

[sacred elm]

Consider getting other switches, if you still have stock Lekkers

[woven parrot]

What other ones? I want thockier

[tropic urchin]

Unironically if they were $1 per switch they would’ve mogged competition until raptor release lol

[woven parrot]

Can I send you a sound test

[tawdry tree]

I don’t care anymore, their loss!

[woven parrot]

@tawdry tree

[trail bane]

I see that Shofie and I are the only ones who like Fluxes

[sacred elm]

There's no "thocky" switch. You can wait for new Lekker Tikkens, they'll be deeper than current options.

[tawdry tree]

just send it here

[woven parrot]

Ok they got good price ok

[tawdry tree]

C1s are thocky

more so than Jades somewhat are

[sacred elm]

Surely

[tawdry tree]

newgen thock, obviously. they’re nothing compared to Raeds’ thock.

[tropic urchin]

wtf, I’ve been the #1 fan from day 1 of receiving them

[tawdry tree]

should’ve bought noob

[tropic urchin]

😭

I literally got them BEFORE Shafie

[trail bane]

Damn so we are 3 flux brothers

[woven parrot]

I’m

[sacred elm]

No, only me and Varedis

You only have 2 fluxes

https://tenor.com/view/getout-gif-16327023334064302194

[tawdry tree]

where tf am I?

[woven parrot]

How do I remove a switch

[tropic urchin]

Gotta get more

[tawdry tree]

this is bullying

[trail bane]

4

[glacial wind]

show your commitment to the flux cause first

[tropic urchin]

SPEAK UP SONNY

[glacial wind]

buy a fresh set of 90 deep clack flux

[woven parrot]

HOW TO I REMOVE SWITCH

[tropic urchin]

🧏

[sacred elm]

https://youtu.be/-KtpE1mv23s?si=0i08ee6AnKkK5OK9

[tawdry tree]

switch puller dear

[tropic urchin]

@sacred elm I’m lubing fluxies today and swapping to FR4

[glacial wind]

actually did anyone buy those deep clack in here? I don't think i saw anyone buy them

[tropic urchin]

Negative

[sacred elm]

Opener arrived?

[glacial wind]

we all talked about it but no one i know bought them

[tropic urchin]

I had mild interest but not at $2 for possibly same internal QC as the OG

The idea interests me but I already have 90

[glacial wind]

yeah that's the real issue is that who wants to risk the qc stuff

[trail bane]

You’re my dad how tf you can be my brother?

[tawdry tree]

Imoshi only, as usual

[tropic urchin]

It’s funny there’s issues, but I’ve had more raptor spring crunch than any issue with flux on most plates

[woven parrot]

TY

I lost it

I lost it tho

[tawdry tree]

https://tenor.com/view/sospechoso-suspizcaz-chicken-judging-you-gif-17495234

[tropic urchin]

They’ve been nearly flawless for me

[woven parrot]

Does anyone recommend a good wrist rest for wooting 60he on Amazon please

[sacred elm]

Yeah, it's very rare on Wooting. I only had one switch with VERY strong magnet and I just swapped it out

Actuation was jumping to 0.08mm

[tawdry tree]

search 60% keyboard wrist rest, you’ll find one surely

[woven parrot]

I need a good quality one

[tawdry tree]

I’ve had 0 issues with mine

[tropic urchin]

For the combined wobble and sound profile flux has been my favorite switch so far even if it is short spring 🥀

[tawdry tree]

no magnetic springs either.

[tropic urchin]

If they had long spring 45g flux it would be so over for me trying other switches

[tawdry tree]

the wooting one, but it’s not on amazon..

[woven parrot]

Bruh

[glacial wind]

is flux 15mm? i forget

[tawdry tree]

18

[sacred elm]

17

[tawdry tree]

16

[sacred elm]

[tawdry tree]

take it or leave it

[dusty pebble]

I made a 90gf switch

Gateron had these springs for some reason

[tawdry tree]

a bunch of false promises in this pic

😭

[glacial wind]

hrm they listed them at 15mm at some point for some reason

i wonder if it was just their random aliexpress guy

[dusty pebble]

mmm aliexpress

[tawdry tree]

the cerakey switches right?

[dusty pebble]

wha

[tawdry tree]

or was that 70gf

[dusty pebble]

At gamescom

[tawdry tree]

ah nvm

[sacred elm]

74

[dusty pebble]

they had a bag

with 90g springs

[tawdry tree]

oh lol

gateron selling springs soonTM?

👀

[dusty pebble]

idk

[glacial wind]

probably from their cerakey collab

[tropic urchin]

I think its also a wee bit wider than others but shafie will correct me since hes internal expert

[tawdry tree]

it is

fat as fuck spring

and stem pole

and magnet

[glacial wind]

did you measure the springs? I'm curious which listing is right

because some were 15mm, some 18mm

[tropic urchin]

wtf

[glacial wind]

so i don't know who is telling the truth

[tropic urchin]

I havent opened mine yet since my kailh opener is arriving in the next few hrs

[sacred elm]

Yeah, they're wider and they're not even releasing their own springs

👎

[tropic urchin]

god i hate wuque

i am cursed

i am their biggest flux fan and they cant even give me some red meat

maybe i need to stop asking for things

bc i was the person that asked D and then we got the tea on the QC issues

[sacred elm]

When they released Fluxes, I asked and they said 17mm

🤷‍♂️

[glacial wind]

lol

so they have one place saying 15mm, one image saying 18mm and then they said 17mm

sounds about right

[tropic urchin]

maybe take the average of those 3

you'll probably be right one way or another

[tawdry tree]

17.5mm or so

18 is prob accurate

[sacred elm]

What's their diameter?

[fallen pecan]

6.65mm

[glacial wind]

i also realized they did that thing where they only sell them in packs of 35 for the large packs

so if you want 90 you have to buy 105

[woven parrot]

Yo

Imma get these switches

Is that Alr?

[tawdry tree]

rip arc

[glacial wind]

i mean sure, those are fine. typical box stem rgb type switches

[woven parrot]

Just gimme a good one bro please

I need thocky

[tawdry tree]

those aren’t

[glacial wind]

you could go ur ice ultra or phylina thunderflash white

[calm pulsar]

im back

[woven parrot]

Which ones are

[glacial wind]

those are closest to 'thocky' rgb

even though they're not really thocky either

oh and c1 too

[tawdry tree]

MMD C1s from AliExpress

they’re much cheaper as well

[glacial wind]

depends what stem you want too

do you want mx stem, big walled stem, something in between?

[woven parrot]

I want short steam

[glacial wind]

so you like the giant box or the + type stem

[woven parrot]

No I want the cheaper stem

[glacial wind]

the cheapest is probably c1 mmd

[sacred elm]

Are they deeper than Ice Ultra?

[glacial wind]

if they're still on sale on aliexpress it's like $20 for 90

[woven parrot]

Should I just get jade switches?

[sacred elm]

No

[glacial wind]

oh wait if you're in US you can't buy from ali though

[woven parrot]

Oh

[glacial wind]

where are you from

[woven parrot]

I’m in uk

But I can only pick Amazon

[glacial wind]

then you're fine, you can buy from aliexpress

oh.

[woven parrot]

Bro pls help 😥

[sacred elm]

Get Ice Ultras then, aren't they on Amazon?

[glacial wind]

yeah get the ice ultras then

[woven parrot]

Alr fine they gonna break my bank

[glacial wind]

well if you could do aliexpress it'd be way cheaper

but since you want amazon our recommendations are heavily limited

[woven parrot]

This good?

[sacred elm]

That's pretty expensive for 70pc

[glacial wind]

that's for 110 pieces

[woven parrot]

Ik

[glacial wind]

i think they only sell in 110 packs on amazon uk lol

[sacred elm]

oh

[dusty pebble]

readd the monitor

[sacred elm]

There's no 70pc option?

[woven parrot]

I am going to get these aswell ok

[woven parrot]

No I don’t think so

[sacred elm]

Then don't buy them, you don't need 110 Ice Ultras lol

[woven parrot]

Then what I do

):

[harsh dove]

buy from somewhere else besides amazon

[woven parrot]

Imma buy anyway

But now I need white keycaps

I think I’m cooking

I got it to 70ocs

[tawdry tree]

you have an 80HE or 60?

[woven parrot]

60he

[sacred elm]

Do you have prebuilt 60HE or a module?

[tawdry tree]

then that wrist rest is too big bro

[woven parrot]

Prebuilt

[woven parrot]

I can’t find any big

Er

I mean smaller

[tawdry tree]

smaller

rip

amazon is expensive and you’re getting the same products as you would from ali fyi

but I understand it if you’re in a hurry or smth

[woven parrot]

Yeah I am

[sacred elm]

Then get a softer plate if you want a deeper sound. Wooting sells PC plate on their store.

[woven parrot]

Ok so now we need to find a white keycaps

[woven parrot]

I told you only Amazon cuz I have 100 pounds Amazon gift card

I don’t like to spend my money

So how do I find

White magnetic keycaps

[tawdry tree]

any keycaps

MX compatible ones will work

[tawdry tree]

yes

[woven parrot]

Ok

[tawdry tree]

they are 17mm actually

[glacial wind]

maybe they only round up

[woven parrot]

Ok one more question

This or this

[tulip rapids]

a goku imposter has appeared

[tawdry tree]

the latter, but you can probably find better

[sacred elm]

From those two, second

[woven parrot]

Ah alr

[tawdry tree]

search double shot

[woven parrot]

Ok

[tawdry tree]

see if there’s anything

[woven parrot]

I think this is the best

[woven parrot]

Ok I am ordering it now

[tulip rapids]

https://tenor.com/view/goku-dragon-ball-z-dragon-ball-thumbs-up-approval-gif-5130883159510254210

[tawdry tree]

I don’t think the product pictures are real but u should be good.

[woven parrot]

Ok any other thocky switches on Amazon before I buy?

[tawdry tree]

Eh

you could get Jade Pros as well

not sure which is cheaper

[woven parrot]

I found these

[tawdry tree]

Bottom
one

Ice Ultras are better though, in terms of stability

[woven parrot]

Ah

Should I got the ice ultra then it’s only 7 more

[tawdry tree]

just get whichever is cheaper

[tawdry tree]

you’re overpaying so much buying from amazon lmao

do whatever u want

[woven parrot]

I got these it says for wooting

Alr ty

I’m ordering now

[tawdry tree]

yeah, both Ice Yltras and Jade Pros work perfectly fine with Woot’s boards

[woven parrot]

Alr I’m ordering the jade pros since this one is better

How much pieces

Just 70

?

[tawdry tree]

Ice Ultras are more stable.

[tawdry tree]

Yeah

for the 60HE

[woven parrot]

What does that mean?

[tawdry tree]

Less stem wobble

but it doesn’t matter much really

if you care about RGB a lot, I would get Ice Ultras

as those are almost fully transparent

[woven parrot]

Bro the ice ultra has no reviews

[tawdry tree]

on amazon they don’t

[woven parrot]

Ah alr

[tawdry tree]

a few people here have them

me included

[woven parrot]

I just care about sound you know

Alr I will tell you how it goes lemme show you one more time ok

[tawdry tree]

👍

[tulip rapids]

buy the flux

[tawdry tree]

there really isn’t any other wrist rest?

it’s gonna look so odd

[woven parrot]

I’m looking Rn actually

It’s does tbh

[sacred elm]

Just buy Ice Ultras, they're a bit more expensive

[woven parrot]

You sure)

?

[sacred elm]

Sure about what? Ice Ultras are better switches overall

[woven parrot]

Ok I bought them

Tell me how it goes

I will tell you how it goes I mean

[tawdry tree]

https://amzn.eu/d/0BalGXS

wrist rest

there are a ton

https://amzn.eu/d/cLEeDty

[woven parrot]

Lemme try and find a switch puller actually

I lost it tho

[tawdry tree]

https://amzn.eu/d/dzrqzVJ these switches are similar to Ice Ultras but cheaper

[tawdry tree]

https://amzn.eu/d/8rj2peR

[woven parrot]

Ok ty

Why so expensive

[tawdry tree]

https://amzn.eu/d/593v75G this one better

cheaper

and doesn’t include a switch opener which you don’t need anyway

[woven parrot]

Ok

Just give me name

[tawdry tree]

link doesn’t work??

[tulip rapids]

works for me

[woven parrot]

Wait

The wrist rest you sent me

The second one

It’s the same as the my one but just white

And it has good reviews

[tawdry tree]

fine

but don’t look at the reviews as an indication bro

and you need to get the S verison

that’s for 60% keyboards

[woven parrot]

Ok you have any same as this

@tawdry tree you have any same as this?

[tawdry tree]

ah, rip. then just get the Ice Ultras or Jade Pros.

[woven parrot]

h ask

Ok

[woven parrot]

Atleast we will be broke together

[woven parrot]

I hope this is a good upgrade bro

[tawdry tree]

From Lekker V1s, yeah it is lmao

[woven parrot]

Alr

Ty for the help aswell

[tawdry tree]

From Lekker V2s too, not sure which one you have.

[woven parrot]

Lemme show you sound test

[tawdry tree]

oh and btw, the keycaps don’t let light through the letters

you don’t mind that right?

[woven parrot]

Yeah I don’t mind

This is the sound test

[tawdry tree]

haha, yeah either Ice Ultras or Jade Pros will sound better. The stab rattle won’t get fixed by swapping the switches but it’s alright

[woven parrot]

Does jade pros sound better?

[tawdry tree]

Neither sound better, just different. The only aspect where one is better than the other is in stability or stem wobble

[woven parrot]

Ah ok

[tawdry tree]

Ice Ultras are better in that aspect

[woven parrot]

I still looking to find

White wrist rust

60 percent

[tawdry tree]

why? 😭

[woven parrot]

This is making me crash out

Hhahaha

help me bro I can’t find ittt

T

[tawdry tree]

black better

👍

[woven parrot]

My keyboards gonna be white if you didn’t notice bro

And my pc

And my room is white

And my monitor is white

But I’m not white

[woven parrot]

I’m just going to laser off 15 percent of the rest

So then I can get 60

Also help me take out the switches on

[tawdry tree]

spend a bit of your own money and get a wooting one

and a plate too

it’s like £30

[woven parrot]

Spending my own money

That’s so bold

[tawdry tree]

yes

lol

[woven parrot]

What’s that?

[tawdry tree]

or sell your £100 gift card for £95

https://tenor.com/view/tkt-smart-gif-20642718

[woven parrot]

Find something

That is not us

11 SEPTEMBER IS CRAZY

[tawdry tree]

jade pro

go buy

https://tenor.com/view/sleepy-dog-sleeping-sleeping-dog-dog-sleeping-tiny-eepy-dog-gif-2292331323183720739

[woven parrot]

It’s the same one ):

[tulip rapids]

you could wait for tikken

https://tenor.com/view/goku-thinking-gif-9540588

[woven parrot]

I ain’t waiting

[tawdry tree]

stuck between a rock and a hard place 🥀

[woven parrot]

If I order it in 2 days

Then it comes on weekends

I’m stuck

[tulip rapids]

mb yamacha

[woven parrot]

Nah I’m namek goku gl

[tulip rapids]

https://tenor.com/view/yamcha-yamcha-death-pose-yamcha-dead-yamcha-on-the-ground-yamcha-sleeping-gif-15816799

[woven parrot]

Namek goku ?

[tulip rapids]

bro trying to preach dbz to me

i was there when namek blew up

https://tenor.com/view/planet-namek-gif-20250132

[woven parrot]

Wdym I was here
In the foetus

I was here in the sperm

I was in BARDOCK CO

[tulip rapids]

https://tenor.com/view/nah-bro-give-me-your-phone-thats-it-dragon-ball-wtf-gif-17429847102730306218

"in the sperm"

[woven parrot]

YE

now imma order it

[tawdry tree]

~ Life

[tulip rapids]

i dont think the dragon balls can wish this trauma away

😭

[woven parrot]

Only the black ones

):

Yo

I got idea

Imma order it anyway

[trail bane]

Fuuck I’m accidentally trapped myself. GMK set or new Mice?

[tulip rapids]

why not both

[trail bane]

Ma mama gonna kill me yn

[tulip rapids]

pain is temporary gmk set and new mice is forever

[trail bane]

No more easy money is also forever

[tulip rapids]

your mom will always love you

so run that credit card debt

lmfao just joking

[chilly mural]

gmk, you can always get mouse later

[trail bane]

Fr

Imagine my face if I go to the website right now and the pre-order time is over

[chilly mural]

if that's the case, moar waiting, waiting is fun

[trail bane]

Phew they still waiting for me

[woven parrot]

Yo

@tawdry tree I ordered it

Help me to remove it when I get it ok

5 sept

Ty

Wait

Is this Alr aswell I order for my cousin

[tulip rapids]

theres wooting videos on their youtube channel that teaches you how to remove switches from the wooting pcb

[woven parrot]

Ah ok ty

[ornate quest]

You did notice them being 45 packs? You'll need more for the whole keyboard, that's going to be extra pricy again

[woven parrot]

Imma just order the ice ultras at this point

[little glen]

What set

[trail bane]

Copper gang ofc

[little glen]

Hmmm

[trail bane]

Vs Finalmouse Prophecy Scream for 150usd new with without tags

I low key freaked out, got a discount, and now I think I don’t really need it

[little glen]

Finalmeme

Honestly all i want at this point is gmk metro and dragon witch

[trail bane]

Fr Wlmouse better

[tulip rapids]

me looking at buying the artisan keycap for my set for $150 cad or getting new pair of headphones that i need badly

but leaning towards buying the artisan keycap

[little glen]

What headphones are you looking at

[woven parrot]

Hi

I bought flux with ice ultras

[tulip rapids]

sennheiser hd 560s

[little glen]

I would recommend some open backs that may be more expensive but they are worth it

[tulip rapids]

which ones

i can get hd 560s used for 146

or brand new for 203

(tax is included)

[little glen]

I got the hifiman edition xs and i love em

They are quite a bit more expensive tho

[tulip rapids]

these bad boys?

[woven parrot]

Best gaming headphones for 100

[woven parrot]

Ain’t 100

[chilly mural]

soon, I'll demo hd600 and see if i'll get it

[glacial wind]

Don’t 560s go on sale for $150 or less from time to time?

[woven parrot]

What’s the best arctic nova headphones for 150

[tulip rapids]

yeah on amazon brand new is 179 before tax and open box from sennheiser website theyre 129.99 before tax

cad

[glacial wind]

it’s honestly hard to beat 560s if you’re using it for fps games at that price point

[woven parrot]

This good right

[glacial wind]

there’s a lot of nice headphones but unless you want to eq and such then the base 560s tuning is so good for fps games

[woven parrot]

@Founde

[tulip rapids]

yeah i just use them for gaming,watching tv shows/movies and music

[woven parrot]

@silver sky

[glacial wind]

Huh? We’re talking about very different headphones

[woven parrot]

I want gaming ones

Is it good

Or not

[glacial wind]

Gaming headphones suck, 560s crush those

[woven parrot]

What’s 560s

Are they better for gaming

[chilly mural]

def agree

[glacial wind]

Sennheiser 560s

They’re like the default recommend for that $150 price range

[tidal frigate]

Truthear hexa better

[woven parrot]

Are they better for gaming?

[glacial wind]

No one talking about iem

[tulip rapids]

i wanted to grab the pc38x but since i only found american vendors i dont want to pay for tariffs

[glacial wind]

Yes assuming you don’t need the mic

[tidal frigate]

Isint iem technicly a head phone

[woven parrot]

I do

[glacial wind]

Then the ones goku linked are good

[woven parrot]

Ok

[chilly mural]

just get seperate mic

ez fix

[tulip rapids]

anyone here tried the pc38x?

[glacial wind]

But honestly headset mics generally suck and eventually you want to separate mic and headphone

[woven parrot]

Oh yeah

[glacial wind]

I had them once upon a time

They were fine, decent headphones

Good for their day for sure

[tulip rapids]

which one did you enjoy more the hd 560s or pc38x?

[glacial wind]

560s

[tidal frigate]

Everyone ears are diffrent guys

[tulip rapids]

ty for your opinion

[glacial wind]

Honestly I want to try those new 490 pros

but the price jump is totally not worth just for comfort mainly lol

Everyone says they’re the most comfortable headphone very similar to the 560s

[tulip rapids]

its one of those things i gotta try for myself because a lot of people recommended me the beyerdynamic dt 990 and the comfort for me was ass

the audio quality was good but i hated the comfort they never broke in for me it just gave me constant headaches

[glacial wind]

the 490 pro supposedly the clamp force is way less and cups are super comfy, but I don’t really want to pay $400 more just for that lol

[tulip rapids]

yeah

thats too much imo

im trying to stay with $200ish

unless its really worth it to pay for more

which most of the time its not

[woven parrot]

The things is

I got two switches

With ice ultra

[glacial wind]

Man Amazon is expensive

[woven parrot]

Fr

But I got gift cards for that

@glacial wind but it’s gonna be good right?

Right?

[thorn zealot]

jade pros are not the best options rn

but if ur comin from like nothin then its good

[woven parrot]

Ye I got lekker v1

And I need them to arrive by Monday

[thorn zealot]

then it will be a great upgrade

[woven parrot]

Yeah and I prefer it over ice ultras

But I ordered both

[sacred elm]

Just don't buy 70pc Jade Pros for 70gbp please

[woven parrot]

This what I’m rocking rj

[woven parrot]

I got money for it

See

[sacred elm]

That doesn't look like Amazon gift card but fine

[woven parrot]

Anything else I need to buy

[trail bane]

Rich bomboclat millionaire

[chilly mural]

you can buy 1 ATK flux with it

[woven parrot]

What’s that

[tulip rapids]

and i thought canadian money was ugly

[trail bane]

And actually why do y’all recommending him to buy jades if there’s elf kings which honestly way better

[woven parrot]

Lol that’s our highest bill pay some respect

[tulip rapids]

https://tenor.com/view/captain-america-avengers-endgame-old-man-i-dont-think-i-will-gif-14669627

[tulip rapids]

hes buying it from amazon

i dont think he wants to buy from other vendors

[woven parrot]

Bro pounds is more than dollars tho

I only got Amazon gift cards

[chilly mural]

the $4.5/pcs switches

[woven parrot]

Thank you but I’m not that dumb

I got Amazon gift card no need to spend my own money

[cobalt gate]

is there any way I can buy the Jade Pro switches but with clear transparent case instead of the green one? I hate how white light looks green when passing through it

[safe stag]

Bottom flux is low or am I dumb
Probably have the same problem sparks have

[woven parrot]

Btw

Is 50hz tv ok

480p

[safe stag]

Buy a recolor version, I think moonlight he is the same as jades

[woven parrot]

For 9070xt 9800x3d

[chilly mural]

no, get at least 1080p120fps

[woven parrot]

It gets. 600 gps

[chilly mural]

how

[woven parrot]

It’s the 9070 xt

??

Ok but the thing is

[safe stag]

You are sus ngl

[woven parrot]

Wdym

Here a cat

It’s sitting on suitcase

[safe stag]

You have the money to afford a top tier pc but you have a shitty tv as a display, and you want to buy switches but only on Amazon ?!
Like wtf

[woven parrot]

Gtg

[woven parrot]

Gift card man

And it’s a hand me down tv I have to respect it

[tulip rapids]

i been saying this

[woven parrot]

Even my grandpa hit it

[chilly mural]

it's not about getting the most fps, it's about being able to display it. 120hz monitor is pretty cheap nowadays, can prop grab one for 50-100 used

[safe stag]

Buy a screen instead on Amazon

[woven parrot]

It’s about respect and honor

I can’t let it go

[chilly mural]

you can use that as a secondary display

[safe stag]

Use it as a secondary screen

[chilly mural]

I do that for my previous monitor since it still looks great

[woven parrot]

Ok

Found it 1440p 165hz

Done

[safe stag]

And use the money that has on the picture you sent to buy proper switches at a correct price

[woven parrot]

It is proper

But it ain’t correct price

[safe stag]

Jades pro is not bad but kinda outdated now

[woven parrot]

Ok find me better one on Amazon

[safe stag]

Just buy raptors v2 for half the price

[marsh saffron]

real asf

thinking the same shit

[safe stag]

Not on Amazon,
You buy display on Amazon, and switches on whatever you want

But not on Amazon please

[woven parrot]

What if I do

[marsh saffron]

you waste money

[woven parrot]

It still gonna sound good

I got the money for it

[marsh saffron]

so?

lets pay some random fuckass reseller 30$ because i have the money for it

this is exactly how you stop having money for things 😭

[sacred elm]

Not even $30, more

[marsh saffron]

thats wild

bro wants to get scalped

😭

[woven parrot]

I too rich for it tho

[safe stag]

Having the money doesn’t makes you smart, we have the proof here

[sacred elm]

You can probably buy 70pc Jade Pros for $25 on Ali

[woven parrot]

Like it’s just a lil lemme splurge

[marsh saffron]

everyone whos ever gone broke after winning the lottery has this mentality

🔥

[woven parrot]

I only buy thing with gift card

[woven parrot]

Except I invest every dolla

[marsh saffron]

so your a drug dealer/scammer

[safe stag]

Where do this gift card came from

[woven parrot]

Bc I found it on floor

[marsh saffron]

flexes cash and only pays with gift cards 🔥

[woven parrot]

Mhm

I buy the cash with gift cards

[safe stag]

…

[tulip rapids]

bro is trolling stop taking him seriously 😭

bro talks about amazon gift card but posted real money 🥀

[woven parrot]

Yeah you found out

I buy the gift cards with money

😔

[woven parrot]

Yeah I did

I also found 30 pound on the floor

Stonks

Mhm

That’s the starry

Nah I’m joking guys

The real reason is Beacause

I’m Indian

Don’t worry tho

I get the money somehow

Right

@safe stag

That’s all that matters

@tulip rapids

Right?

Should I buy a coiled cable aswell

[stiff ivy]

if u got gud mouse alr, probably go keycaps?

[trail bane]

Modded g102

[stiff ivy]

FPS/Moba ?

[trail bane]

Both +-

[stiff ivy]

If you play FPS competitively, probably a good new mouse. Though I must say I am not familliar with the keycaps game.

[chilly mural]

gmk keycap is a very limited run, mouse not soo much. So getting keycap first is the play

[stiff ivy]

Haven't even modded or cleaned my board ever, opening it up tomorrow to change switches. What are the chances of me not ruining everything

[chilly mural]

99%

[stiff ivy]

Changed "in days" to "ever", I've never opened the keyboard before.

[sacred elm]

Get a new mouse, you already have good keycaps iirc

[trail bane]

Gmk clones

[stiff ivy]

GMK clones vs GMK, big differences? Also how do I spot real vs fake Owlab TIs

[woven parrot]

Alr

[sacred elm]

Still better than a decade old mouse

[marsh saffron]

clones are cheap pbt and or cheap abs

[stiff ivy]

Heard good things about PBT keycaps, not so much about the ABSs

[thorn zealot]

its preference

[marsh saffron]

iirc cheap pbt is better than cheap abs, but high quality abs is better than high quality pbt

[stiff ivy]

I thought PBTs are more durable no?

[trail bane]

But finalemouse…

[marsh saffron]

remember seeing people say that a lot to sum it up

[stiff ivy]

Ooooh I see

[fluid ravine]

Cheap abs let's just say the down side of bad reviews of abs
But good abs like from GMK, easily top tier
No downside to it

[cobalt gate]

Would yall say the WS Dash is just a recolor of the Jade Pro?

I wanna get something that sounds like the jade pro but with a clear transparent case over the green one

[trail bane]

For 150🌹

[marsh saffron]

i dont have clones, nor is my set gmk

[fluid ravine]

Simple words

[fluid ravine]

Jade original

[stiff ivy]

Do you guys think the Viper V3 Pro is overpriced?

[woven parrot]

Yo

[thorn zealot]

good quality pbt will not shine as fast as good abs like gmk

[sacred elm]

Get UR Ice Ultra

[marsh saffron]

how much is it

[thorn zealot]

but imo abs sounds better than pbt

[woven parrot]

Yes

[marsh saffron]

+1

[sacred elm]

A bit, but it's a great mouse.

[stiff ivy]

why did i change my gpx spl.

[fluid ravine]

+2

[stiff ivy]

should've just gotten a random chinese clone

[safe stag]

Check gateron moonlight

[marsh saffron]

gpx 😔

[stiff ivy]

Mine got a stupid battery stuff

[woven parrot]

Poor student

[marsh saffron]

only time a gpx is worth it

W

[stiff ivy]

It was wiggling and this time I failed to make it stick

[woven parrot]

I decied to get flux

[stiff ivy]

Went for the V3 pro since I heard it was the second coming of christ.

I gotta study your game

[woven parrot]

Why te student

[marsh saffron]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1305905837017137173/1349593293079449630/attachment.gif

bro had a knife to his throat what the fuck 😭

[safe stag]

Why are you wearing a glove ?

[stiff ivy]

where I live, uhh, the number of 60HEs are probably less than 10k

[marsh saffron]

because he had to touch a gpx

[fluid ravine]

Not even my video 🥀

[fluid ravine]

LOL

[woven parrot]

Nah prob a gun to his liver

[stiff ivy]

thought you wear gloves playing games

scared

[fluid ravine]

THIS IS

[marsh saffron]

10k? i might be the only one in my town who owns a 60he 😭

[stiff ivy]

Damn, then I probably inflated the number lmao

[safe stag]

Might be a fair point, idk anything about mouse market (I have a g502, it died and I bought a g502 again )

[marsh saffron]

my town only has like 2-3k people

[stiff ivy]

Oh I mean in my whole country

[marsh saffron]

oh

[woven parrot]

My town has people

I think

[trail bane]

Need to record same thing by myself

[stiff ivy]

probably

[trail bane]

Xd

[fresh kayak]

Hi all, newbie to the server and to modding.

Needed a new keyboard and went down the rabbit hole....

A couple of days later I've gone and ordered a 80HE with some bits to have a play about with.

One thing I'm really struggling with is finding proper UK ISO keycaps online. Are there any sites you can recommend on where to find them please?

[stiff ivy]

maybe

are we even human

[fluid ravine]

W

[woven parrot]

Nah they just wannabe roadmen

That have knives

[stiff ivy]

London?

[woven parrot]

Amazon

[woven parrot]

You don’t wanna know

Search up Epsom crimes

[stiff ivy]

Aliexpress for cheap

I really want to go to the UK once to watch football, probably never getting that chance (i'm broke and I might get stabbed over there)

[woven parrot]

Dw come to Surrey it’s the safest place

In England

[stiff ivy]

🤨

[woven parrot]

You can live in my neighbours house 😇

[woven parrot]

Trust me it safe

[marsh saffron]

this the same dude saying he pays cash for gift cards to use online

[woven parrot]

What’s wrong with my neighbours house

[stiff ivy]

I don't like where this is going

[marsh saffron]

bro is getting his kidney sold

😭

[safe stag]

Kbdfan, cannonkeys, there are others websites, Aliexpress also

[woven parrot]

I am a robot

Rlly

Damn Ty for achievement

[stiff ivy]

try to think from a third person perspective

[fresh kayak]

Thanks all for the replies. Will have a good look tongiht.

[woven parrot]

There’s a reason

You dont need to know it tho

I’m not Walter black dont worry

[stiff ivy]

Any keycaps that feels like the stock ones but the quality's a bit better?

[woven parrot]

Coke

[stiff ivy]

Since shafie told me to wait for the new 60 V2 cases, I should probably just go for different keycaps to not waste my time taking apart my keyboard only to change the switches

[fresh kayak]

I've done that for a few that claimed to stock UK ISO but there's always keys that are different. The layout and key size is correct but still missing the odd couple.

[marsh saffron]

yeah your too scrawny for cool crimes 😔

[marsh saffron]

meant to reply to this

[woven parrot]

Yk the white c Coke

[stiff ivy]

jesé where is the memthé

[woven parrot]

Not that cool chill

I only got a couple wootings

🙂‍↕️

[fresh kayak]

It's looking like I'll have to do the same. Just map the keys correctly and not look at it too much 😂

[stiff ivy]

I had 3 keyboards (all old white ones from back then), I always manage to break the enter key for some reasons.

[marsh saffron]

ansi better anyway

[woven parrot]

Ok hear this for one second

[marsh saffron]

big left shift >>>

[woven parrot]

I’m doing all of this

I have a broken Chromebook

[sacred elm]

@woven parrot Stop the cringe now. This is a warning.

[stiff ivy]

A rare compliment in my life, thank you

[woven parrot]

What me doing bro

I do have broken Chromebook

[marsh saffron]

nooo but hes so cool and mysterious 😭

[stiff ivy]

I had something simillar to that back then, it broke, I broke down with it

[stiff ivy]

Then I used a pretty cheap akko sub company keyboard?

[woven parrot]

@sacred elm don’t be mean I told you

I did have broken Chromebook

Indeed

[stiff ivy]

Was so disappointed that technology involved so much but the keyboard game actually went backwards lmao

e-dra iirc

[woven parrot]

I’m using Akko for my wrist rest

[stiff ivy]

Any recommendations to old keyboards that are actually readily available?

Might as well get one before they go extinct

my brain is not braining

[woven parrot]

Try Magee maybe

Or typerwrite

[stiff ivy]

yeah no

[stiff ivy]

Oh shit I am sorry

I read typewriter'

[woven parrot]

I’m dropping the lore guys

[stiff ivy]

Fc

[woven parrot]

I only buy with Amazon so my auntie don’t find out

It’s dropped

[stiff ivy]

extinct where I live, no old keyboards

probably my serach querry was dogshit

[woven parrot]

Yo

[stiff ivy]

"old keyboard" "vintage keyboard" "keyboard before the 2000s" lmao

[woven parrot]

What if I steal a scalper

Then just hit delete

[stiff ivy]

Our country poor, those keyboards doesn't exist in high quanitites here. The most common old ones are all membrane already

I had one

[woven parrot]

Taiwan

[stiff ivy]

No joke, I had one

My father brought it home

It died though, no idea why, that was a long time ago

I was so disappointed

[woven parrot]

Damn

[stiff ivy]

I gave it to my father to see if he was able to fix it

No idea where it is now

[woven parrot]

@untold wigeon should I just buy the ice ultras at this point

BUT I CANT Wait

That’s the thing

Rlly

Alr w

Yes

I talking about switches

[stiff ivy]

tomorrow you guys will probably see me crying in this channel about how I might break my board changing swtiches

[woven parrot]

Oh my brother in Islam I like pizza

[stiff ivy]

I mean that's what lead me to this sub then to this channel

[marsh saffron]

just take the switch plate off and pop them off from behind

[woven parrot]

Ale

[marsh saffron]

literally cant break the pcb that way