🔧│keyboard_modding

[tropic urchin]

Now we’re trolling

I almost used my delete key

Gateron rubies 🥶

[harsh dove]

Needs red alu plate

and black screws

and black stabs

[slate fox]

and red case

[thorn zealot]

So who gon tell em

[reef oar]

https://tenor.com/view/cover-ears-steve-harvey-little-big-shots-cant-hear-you-sshhh-gif-14134387

[grave lagoon]

owlab raptor v2

[reef oar]

weren't raptor v1s poop

[tropic urchin]

Wouldn’t go well with salt lakes

[reef oar]

did they pack a punch them

what's the goat switch rn

[tropic urchin]

Raptor V2s clear current box stem champs and other current metas for wobble

[reef oar]

are you all just wobblemaxing now

[tropic urchin]

So you’re saying you’re not??

[thorn zealot]

Yes lekker v1 bestest

[tropic urchin]

Oh right you took the Jade pro ambassador

[slate fox]

WHERE THE SOUND TEST!!! @tropic urchin

[reef oar]

can't leave the puppies

[tropic urchin]

Putting caps on

Since you’re impatient Rohan

This is all you get

[slate fox]

https://tenor.com/view/noo-toy-story-buzz-lightyear-gif-14664723

[thorn zealot]

Owlab on alu plate

Familiar sound

[tropic urchin]

I didn’t like owlabs as much on alu

[slate fox]

holy

[reef oar]

but why are they so cheap

[slate fox]

its time to reitre my raws

[reef oar]

what in the witchcraft is this

[tropic urchin]

Are they cheap or is everyone else overpriced

[reef oar]

someone made a blood deal with the devil

[slate fox]

dont jinx bro

[tropic urchin]

I’m quite impressed ngl

Wait what

[reef oar]

i'll buy the whole stock and resell

scalping switches

[tropic urchin]

You have to put down the might of Zeus for the bottom wobble

[slate fox]

jeez

[reef oar]

that is nice

[slate fox]

[tropic urchin]

To me atleast they feel like 90% of bottom out wobble

Of POM/current box

Owlabs were like 75%

[slate fox]

man put all the keycaps on and give us another sount test

[tropic urchin]

If you ask 1 more time I’m DMing everyone but you

https://tenor.com/view/drop-the-phone-mad-angry-girl-gif-17190554054836646991

[thorn zealot]

Yk it’s nice and all but it doesnt match my creamy thocky mx

[slate fox]

https://tenor.com/view/ratatouille-i-demand-to-know-who-cooks-the-ratatouille-who-cooks-the-ratatouille-i-demand-to-know-chef-gif-18429608547859444841

[thorn zealot]

🤓 ☝️

[tropic urchin]

If it was as good as you say, you wouldn’t be eyeing another keyboard

[slate fox]

why no creamy he switch yet

[tropic urchin]

[thorn zealot]

I’m not

I promised myself 3 kb

[harsh dove]

Sno said Tikkens and Owlabs still sound better than Raptor V2s to him, so I'm sticking with my Owls

[tropic urchin]

They will be a big upgrade

[slate fox]

you guys got a lot of that shipping money eh

[tropic urchin]

Tikkens and raptors are tied for me

[reef oar]

when shipping costs more than the item though, ts pmo

[stark osprey]

I see you made it to the mailbox before me . Nice sounds outta that! Cant wait to mount mine.

[tropic urchin]

Owlabs are kinda w/e

[tropic urchin]

I would’ve had it up before but I took an hr nap after work lol

[harsh dove]

me n him enjoy clacky loud switches so that's why he said Owls

[tropic urchin]

I do too, but they’re just weirdly bright

[harsh dove]

you're weirdly bright

[tropic urchin]

I mean I ran flux for the longest time

[reef oar]

amen

[harsh dove]

lol

[tropic urchin]

Thanks you’re timed out now

25 secs

LEAVE

[harsh dove]

Nah I still wanna grab some Rap V2s maybe

[reef oar]

when'd they even come out

[tropic urchin]

If you tell mark to get T45s I’ll confirm buy 90

[reef oar]

like 2 months ago?

[tropic urchin]

Very recent like maybe 2-3 weeks ago

[harsh dove]

yeah recently but just last week they were put on Divinikeys for us US folk

[tropic urchin]

Ye

[reef oar]

makes sense

[tropic urchin]

These stems are weird to put caps on

[reef oar]

i mean i'm tempted but i have no way of getting rid of my old switches really

who wants 60 jades and 60 relubed jade pros for 20 bucks

[tropic urchin]

Sell it on Reddit prob

[thorn zealot]

Me so I can hit em with a bat into the forest

[reef oar]

give them to your cat

https://tenor.com/view/cat-crunch-cranch-meow-cute-gif-17368992236901678436

[thorn zealot]

Ermmm I don’t have a cat cuz I’m allergic to em 🤓 ☝️

[reef oar]

that's such negative aura

i wouldn't be admitting that

we fr losing to cats?

not me

[thorn zealot]

Ok jade pro ambassador

[reef oar]

jade pros are on the mount rushmore of switches

[thorn zealot]

💀

[tropic urchin]

No Gateron switch should get within 5 ft of mt Rushmore

[reef oar]

nah man

you all switched up

i can't believe it

[tropic urchin]

Final test

[thorn zealot]

Lekker v1s are closer to mt Rushmore than those

[tropic urchin]

I am switched up you’re right

Once you get any other switch capr you’ll realize the wobbly mess of the Jade pros

It happened to me, it’ll happen to you too

[reef oar]

i'll glue them

that'll fix the wobble

solved

[tropic urchin]

You should tweet at Gateron

They need to hear it

[reef oar]

i'm banned on twitter

you might need to do it on my behalf

[thorn zealot]

@loud abyss

[tropic urchin]

I don’t have an account hehe

[reef oar]

@thorn zealot

you're up

[thorn zealot]

@reef oar for what

[tropic urchin]

This is kinda sick

[reef oar]

i have figured out, through strenuous testing, a method to the wobble and to win back the hearts of the people

still on those caps

[tropic urchin]

That blue tho

[reef oar]

they are nice

[tropic urchin]

I have another pair on the way

HOLY

[reef oar]

it's like

[tropic urchin]

these are great

[reef oar]

chinese pottery

[tropic urchin]

the white on blue and gold on blue is what got me to buy the set

I have a PBT set on the way

[reef oar]

why right shift kinda pregnant though

[tropic urchin]

I didnt have a blue right shift to match the theme so I may or may not have used a 4u space bar or something lil smaller

[reef oar]

i think you may have too

highkey worked though

[tropic urchin]

just dont ask arc or aligner

they roast me mercilessly over it

[reef oar]

lowkey i respect the color match

if it was off i'd be so mad

[tropic urchin]

so these switches are alot less loud than flux and others ive tried, but they have a very nice and satisfying marbly feel

[tropic urchin]

there was alot of novelties and stuff i could've used, it took me like 3-4 iterations to land on it

@reef oar

These are the new ones otw

[reef oar]

those could be nice

i mean

rn i'm not the biggest fan but i can tell they'd grow on me if i were using them

potential

[reef oar]

stock lube is perfect then?

[thorn zealot]

Ermmm why does the key above delete not match with the rest 🤓 ☝️

[tropic urchin]

I will let you know but i havent noticed anything

[tropic urchin]

I couldnt find the home key

[stark osprey]

Just from some initial wobble tests, Im pretty impressed, considering it's also non box stem. Less top wobble than my Mt. Tai's. Sets a pretty high bar, yall sure Tikken's will clear?

[tropic urchin]

tikkens werent as stable

[stark osprey]

Gotcha

[tropic urchin]

they were similar to owlabs but sounded nice

decent top wobble but very wobbly bottom

nice job mr cam

[harsh dove]

I wish all bots would die

[tropic urchin]

at one point that was a real person

[harsh dove]

He's too far gone now

[tropic urchin]

LMAO

[harsh dove]

consumed by the botnet

[tropic urchin]

for sound atleast, they are soft like TTC POM, but a couple octaves quieter

after using flux for so long idk what to do with these, but they feel so good

I do get the jade pro comps now

[reef oar]

deal. i'll think about it, maybe somewhere in europe (ideally the uk) stocks it so it doesn't cost 20 in shipping still

[tropic urchin]

Wasabi and other reviewers said they reminded them of jade pros, for sound i kinda see it now

they sound nice

[reef oar]

DID I HEAR JADE PRO

[tropic urchin]

for sound

not stability KEK

[reef oar]

https://tenor.com/view/mcmahon-crying-he-was-special-wwe-vince-mcmahon-gif-13313547165599993551

[peak breach]

Nah already confirmed tikken are chopped

[tropic urchin]

tikkens are basically just better sounding owlabs

[thorn zealot]

Jade pros are for the chopped huz

[peak breach]

Well that’s subjective

[reef oar]

jade pros are the ferrari f40 of switches

the mclaren f1

[steady halo]

benom in action

[tropic urchin]

so is what you said about RGB this morning, but whose keeping track

[peak breach]

?

[thorn zealot]

Does that mean lekker v1 are the Bugatti

[peak breach]

Rgb bleed isnt rly subjective

[reef oar]

ford fiesta

[tropic urchin]

guess im going to have to pull receipts

[steady halo]

honda small bike

[steady halo]

https://tenor.com/view/mbb-monkey-monkey-baby-monkey-baby-business-mini-bike-gif-27472142

[reef oar]

honda cb100 to be specific

[peak breach]

That isnt subjective 😂

[steady halo]

idk about motorcycle

[steady halo]

my bad

[tropic urchin]

that is 100% based on personal feelings or opinions

[steady halo]

So I'm still confused guys

what does rgb bleed means?

[thorn zealot]

Rgb is bad based on science and facts 🤓 ☝️

[peak breach]

Nuh uh

[steady halo]

until it affects performance of the keyboard?

[tropic urchin]

uh huh

bad rage bait as always

[reef oar]

dawg who cares about rgb just put on the miami preset

[thorn zealot]

😭

[peak breach]

If ur keyboard needs rgb to shine it’s cooked

[reef oar]

facts

well

[steady halo]

Geon did the wrong thing then to prepare benom arjibi

[reef oar]

not facts

but yeah

[tropic urchin]

moving the goal posts again, typical EU behavior

[reef oar]

tf eu gotta do with this

bro curved the bullet

[steady halo]

let me know and tag me please

how does rgb bleed affect keyboard performance

[reef oar]

it doesn't

[steady halo]

wait really?

[tropic urchin]

"errm thats subjective..." proceeds to conveniently forget his subjective opinion earlier put the fries in the bag bro

[calm pulsar]

I think extra rgb effects add like 3 ms or something

without tachyon

[steady halo]

iirc Geon mentioned it in his stream

[reef oar]

is that true?

[calm pulsar]

it's when I install my switches west or east facing, and one of the legs stabs the rgb led and it bleeds

[reef oar]

i mean if you aren't gaming on tachyon, you're bronze anyway

[steady halo]

i see

so it's more of breaking the led?

[calm pulsar]

I just remember latency charts of wooting 80he with and without tachyon

[steady halo]

i think that's kinda dumb

[reef oar]

he's lying

[steady halo]

L Arc

https://tenor.com/view/sukuna-villain-villain-arc-arc-itadori-gif-12292609261583386256

[calm pulsar]

not sure if you got it, but it was a joke💀

[steady halo]

i just woke up

https://tenor.com/view/good-morning-wake-up-wakey-wakey-awaken-gif-26734899

[peak breach]

Rgb bleed is when the colour of the switch housing affects the rgb lighting

[steady halo]

oh

i think it wasn't rgb bleed

what was it??
i forgot the name

so i might just stop asking

[steady halo]

btw what case is that

[peak breach]

Raptors have a top red housing and a white diffuser

[steady halo]

the raw looks nice

[reef oar]

if your whites aren't teal don't @ me

[stark osprey]

Sent DM

[steady halo]

Thanks

[tropic urchin]

@calm pulsar you gotta get these yesterday

[calm pulsar]

alr unc jade pros were released in like 1980s?

[tropic urchin]

LMAOOOO

1980s is crazy shiii

[reef oar]

zoomers these days can't appreciate class

[tropic urchin]

alright unc get the jade emeralds if you believe that

[reef oar]

say less

surely they aren't just recolours

[tropic urchin]

supposedly tactile

dont think they're out yet

[reef oar]

what the fuck

nah i'm good

[tropic urchin]

dont have class smh

[reef oar]

i'm not being a test subject

[tropic urchin]

fair

after seeing the jade orchids i respect that

[reef oar]

are jade sakuras a recolour

[calm pulsar]

I respect that, you can just jump from jade pros to rapters for a cleaner experience

[reef oar]

i would have if it were free shipping

but shipping was more than the switches

[calm pulsar]

yes, just like rubys as well

[trail bane]

Oh shoot. Abs/pbt?

[tropic urchin]

ye pbt set

[tropic urchin]

raptor v2s are the jade rubies we were promised

[steady halo]

ngl

[trail bane]

Looks like this set can be for me

[steady halo]

since raptors v2 released

[tropic urchin]

PBTfans salt lake if you want a set

[reef oar]

https://www.gateron.com/products/gateron-x-mchose-apollo-magnetic-he-switch?VariantsId=11173 surely a brave soul has tried these here

[steady halo]

the tikkens are not this day standard

[tropic urchin]

production ends end of august

[tropic urchin]

holy gross ahh switch

[calm pulsar]

its just a jade gaming (trash)

[reef oar]

LMFAO

not very warm reactions

[tropic urchin]

even the salvation army wouldnt accept that

[reef oar]

there's definitely a hidden gem in here somewhere

moonlights?

[calm pulsar]

just a black and white jade pro

[reef oar]

it's all just jade pro recolours isn't it

I MEAN

they wouldn't recolour trash 500 times

[calm pulsar]

well we don't know if they change any molds between them but also can't trust gateron...

[reef oar]

clearly it's the best option

[tropic urchin]

or would they and upsell it

[reef oar]

impossible

[tropic urchin]

bery possibl

[trail bane]

Gn x2

[tropic urchin]

x3

[reef oar]

x4

[calm pulsar]

x5

[reef oar]

there's no way FOXs are a recolour

they're not

this could be it.

[calm pulsar]

foxes are older than even jade pros, and they also have magnet polarity that is not made for wooting

[trail bane]

Hell nah, hope I hope I don’t wake up again today(in night)

[reef oar]

nvm

[trail bane]

https://tenor.com/view/sleepy-cat-sandwitch-gif-16291262787748477576

[reef oar]

https://tenor.com/view/kitty-kitten-lazy-pet-me-gif-6796977719236115087

i guess all roads lead to this

https://www.gateron.com/products/gateron-magnetic-spark-switch?VariantsId=11388

i'll place an order now

[calm pulsar]

I hope you know what they are

[reef oar]

i have no idea but i have a feeling they may have been the first HE switch ever concieved

[calm pulsar]

they have a split stem with the upper part moving while the magnet is kept stable, so you have a lot of wobble and the sound is muddy/mushy

but they are technically good for magnet stability

so you sacrifice sound

[steady halo]

Gn bro

[tropic urchin]

just get flux at that point lmao

[steady halo]

https://tenor.com/view/sleepy-sleepy-head-good-night-tired-gif-6627548931199154952

[reef oar]

atleast they tried

the method had potential

maybe needs glue

[calm pulsar]

if aliexpress is fine for you I think raptor v2s will be there just like all geon's switches eventually

[steady halo]

i miss lander already

[reef oar]

yeah probably

50/50 chances i get sent v1s

nah i have faith

[misty sapphire]

anyone here tried tried the akko he switches? i wanna know how their stem wobble is

[calm pulsar]

raptor v2s are improved akko astrolights

just sayin

[misty sapphire]

dont like their closed bottom sound ngl

[reef oar]

@calm pulsar are you on raptor v2s

[calm pulsar]

nah im on MX

[tropic urchin]

he should be

traitor

[calm pulsar]

(just waiting to do a big order from geon)

[reef oar]

mx in 2025

[tropic urchin]

class traitor

[reef oar]

calling me unc

[tropic urchin]

LMAO

[reef oar]

is diabolical

[calm pulsar]

wait wait

im techincally on raptors

just MX

lmao

[tropic urchin]

not V2

doesnt count

nobody cares about the raptor mx extreme

its old and decrepit like capr's jade pros from the Soviet days

[reef oar]

?

my jade pros are whispered in the same conversations as alps browns

[tropic urchin]

scroll up unc

[reef oar]

they were mining and discarded pockets full of diamonds for pockets full of jade pros

geon is brainwashing

[tawdry tree]

The 60HE v2 comes stock with the friction pad, which doesn’t fit well in the stock 60HE+ v1 case iirc. So if you remove the friction fit bad from in between the PCB and plate, then it’ll work for sure.

[tawdry tree]

Boneyard + that case, exquisite taste pal 🤌

[stark osprey]

Thank you sir! Yeah I think the peek-thru of the copper plate was just

[tawdry tree]

They’re a recolor of KS-37Cs (and have a different magnet orientation too but they’re from the same molds. 😂

[tawdry tree]

It’s a sick build man

[stark osprey]

DM sent

[stray tiger]

You had me until the spacebar. Stop slacking!

[tropic urchin]

what did you wanna see on the space bar?

you talking about the right shift or the gold space bar

[stray tiger]

The sound

I know you heard that rattle!

[tropic urchin]

is it rattly?

I might have to swap to FR4 then cuz im on alu atm

[stray tiger]

I'm listening on my phone so don't take my word for it but it sounded like the left side had some rattle

[tropic urchin]

hmm

i will have to monitor it

hopefully i wont have to lube it

[stray tiger]

I wouldn't swap plates, I'd just add a little lube to the stab wire if you have a syringe

[tropic urchin]

hmmmm

yeah ill get that

at some point

[tropic urchin]

appreciate the heads up thockjesus

[stray tiger]

Maybe wait for someone else to listen from something other than a cellphone 😁

[tropic urchin]

I figured maybe its the plate bc alu has always been weirdly pingy for me on random spots

[tropic urchin]

i'll have the night shift KGB take a look

[stray tiger]

Any plate material should be fine. BTW I think Sparks might actually sound ok on a CF plate

[tropic urchin]

also my initial feeling on the raptors are very strong

its weird having it be a normal volume switch instead of fluxies

[tropic urchin]

I'll DM you an extended space bar sound test, to me it sounds just like the space bar atleast, but its not a good sample size duration to know for sure

when the dehumidifier isnt also going crazy too would help

[polar girder]

Sounds great

[polar girder]

This guy fucks

[polar girder]

Full nylon housing is legit so they had their use but yeah they weren’t great

[polar girder]

Oh shit

I’m excited for a Raptor resurgence

Not excited that they’re not full nylon housing tho ngl

[reef oar]

i'll prob order v2s when they arrive on ali or on some eu site

in like 2 months

[cloud pivot]

they aren't, they are vintage

[reef oar]

yeah no

they were super poop

[cloud pivot]

super vintage

very loose and dry factory lube

all the things that give a switch soul

[reef oar]

yummy

sign me up

i have a plan

what if someone makes a switch

but it's the opposite of smooth

no lube

sanded

it's like

sandy

i feel like it has potential if done right

i really need to stop saying my ideas because someone here is gonna steal them and make millions

i need to patent this shit

[sacred elm]

I think you described Gateron Orchid

[cyan lark]

https://tenor.com/view/stacking-bad-idea-if-you-stack-enough-bad-ideas-on-top-of-each-other-they-turn-into-a-good-idea-always-do-the-bad-idea-gif-13777642

[reef oar]

it's more like

just spraying

if i rapidfire like 50 ideas

one of them gotta land

maybe glue isn't good or sanding

but i'll have another idea soon

[tropic urchin]

I swapped it over to FR4 and I think I might prefer alu tbh even on scuffed toronto keyboardman alu

I think its time to try CF since tonight is already GGs after fixing space bar

[jade storm]

You’re my friend now

[tropic urchin]

Sno was not kidding CF is cooked for enter key with raptors

That’s gross

[jade storm]

Sound?

[tropic urchin]

Already swapping but alphas sound slightly fuller with CF, but the enter/stab keys sound like POM harshness and very high pitched like owlabs on a bad day

[polar girder]

Interesting

[tropic urchin]

Alu is my current favorite with fr4 slightly below only bc it’s just a wee bit too low sound for me

[tropic urchin]

Strong alu switch imo

Strongest I’ve seen for 80HE alu plate

[polar girder]

I’m debating to get Alu or fr4 for next plate to use keysnaps with

But I might not get raptors

[tropic urchin]

If it’s benom, alu

[polar girder]

It’s benom

[tropic urchin]

100% alu then

[jade storm]

Venom7U with Raptor V2s? I was thinking of using keysnaps to install them in my TofuV1

[polar girder]

Yeah I like my alu now

[tropic urchin]

I liked how owlabs sounded on alu for my benom, I think raptors would be great since they’re going to be louder by default

I thought I’d like FR4 on venom but I just don’t fw it

It’s weird

[glacial wind]

You’re basically waiting for tikkens

There’s just not a lot of switches deeper sounding on the he scale unfortunately

You can check the sound test in pins, but they’re one of few that’s on the deeper end of that he clack

[glacial wind]

I think raptors are a bit tricky if you’re modding for sound cause of that random harshness on some mod keys

It reminds me a lot of raw he and space key on 80he, where it just causes a weird tone there

[tropic urchin]

Usually I noticed it on my alu plate for other switches, but they seemed nice on alu for me. CF that shit is WILD

They are quieter than I’m used to which is unfortunate but sacrifices must be made

It is atleast a default “nice” sound

[glacial wind]

Yeah I had same experience where I’m not used to keyboard being quieter

Been on loud stuff for so long

[tropic urchin]

Flux on FR4 was great for sound for a while, but the feel on raptors for me is about the same as flux but with a real magnet

And better spring

And probably better wobble since it’s not a box or circular stem

[glacial wind]

You mean feel?

[tropic urchin]

Yeah they’re both buttery smooth

POM didn’t have the same feel, owlabs didn’t for me either

Raptors are closest for me

[glacial wind]

I need to test sparks still to decide what goes into my stable switches board

[tropic urchin]

Thockfather liked CF I think with spark

[glacial wind]

if sparks feel decent then I’ll probably run sparks in my gaming board and tikkens in my everyday board

Raptor I don’t know what I’ll do because they’re more stable than owlab but less stable than the split stems at the bottom, so it’s kind of in no mans land for my stable switches setup

[tropic urchin]

Polar bros just got sent out to the gulag 🥀

[glacial wind]

lol I’d keep using polar pros if my sparks weren’t free

the price difference between polar pros and sparks just for sound change is too crazy

[tropic urchin]

I think they give enough bottom wobble to be competitive with split stems, only complaint I have is the volume

They’re atleast 88-90% which is more than I can say for owlabs in comparison

[glacial wind]

I think the split stems are still way ahead on bottom out for me

Top wobble is where raptors shine though

[tropic urchin]

That shit is freaky

[glacial wind]

But I’ve never been a big caring about top wobble person so it doesn’t really factor in for my choice much

[tropic urchin]

Even using full weight bearing for bottom wobble it felt miles ahead of owlabs and I really wasn’t a fan of its bottom out wobble

It’s hit the “good enough” mark

[glacial wind]

yeah they’re roughly in line with that ttc box stem level wobble on bottom

Which is very good

[tropic urchin]

That’s accurate imo

[stark osprey]

Was really pleasantly surprised about this.

[tropic urchin]

It’s scary good

[glacial wind]

Not quite the ‘practically no movement’ of split stems but still very good

[stark osprey]

I saw your rating at first and I was a bit in disbelief. Glad it delivered!

[tropic urchin]

I’m more sensitive to top wobble than bottom (Tarkov is where I ran into issues with owlab and other lean fps) but that top wobble is best I’ve used so far

[glacial wind]

I’m curious how folks over all will feel about the sound though since the tone isn’t the most ideal for everyone though

[tropic urchin]

Big same

Tikkens prob will sound better or more full, but idk if I wanna deal with owlab wobble or spring swap

I do kinda wanna try too

[glacial wind]

Like if they’re used to something loud like owlab or something more like geon raw then raptors are kind of not hitting either for the sound crowd

Just overall depends on what they prefer stability vs sound tone

[tropic urchin]

Hot take but I really didn’t enjoy the high pitch of owlabs over time

Even with lighter springs it just was weird towards the end

[glacial wind]

I embrace loudness

Give me that super loud clack

[tropic urchin]

I do too, but there’s a difference between loud and just super bright

[glacial wind]

No. Both establish dominance equally

You need to establish dominance over your space via sound

[tulip rapids]

how you enjoying your baptors v2?

[tropic urchin]

I’d still run flux in that regard

[tropic urchin]

Top tier alu plate switch

Didn’t like on CF and FR4 was too soft for me after fluxies

Alu feels in sweet spot

Wobble is scary good

Closest to fluxies for feel

[glacial wind]

I am a bit curious if there will be any friction issues long term for raptors

Because I’m not exactly sure what they did to get the wobble this low on mx stem

[tropic urchin]

Oh not the f word

[glacial wind]

I haven’t seen any friction issues yet though so touch wood

[tropic urchin]

After Jade maxes and orchids I’m exhausted with that word 🤣😭

[stark osprey]

Caps seem to need more force/ fits tighter on the stem it seems? Idk if they messed with the stem dimensions at all? Didn't really look at the specs

[tropic urchin]

They were weird fitting caps on for me

[glacial wind]

My only real complaint about raptors is they’re slightly too big for a lot of switch openers

I have to jam it into the opener to get it to fit then the bottom housing gets stuck and I have to pull it out

[tropic urchin]

I was fumbling the space bar like I lost my motor control

[glacial wind]

Which means I’m never spring swapping or lubing these because the fit would drive me crazy

It’s like the bottom housing is 1-2mm too big for all the openers to fit in smoothly

[sacred elm]

🤨

[tropic urchin]

That’s the sound of Shafie’s credit card going back in the wallet

[sacred elm]

Nope

[glacial wind]

Weirdly there is one opener that didn’t have issues with the raptors

The one built into the 5 in one tx tool

I guess the tolerance on it was slightly bigger

So really shafies solution is to open wallet even more and buy the overpriced keycap and switch opener tool from tx

[sacred elm]

Surely my $1 Ali opener will be fine

[glacial wind]

But then how will you experience the overengineering of the worlds best keycap remover

[calm pulsar]

opener that is cheaper than a single flux? its gg

[sacred elm]

Welcome deal abuse

[tulip rapids]

[tidal frigate]

Nails exist tho

And they are free

[tulip rapids]

https://tenor.com/view/heretic-halo2-arbiter-grunts-gif-19621018

[tidal frigate]

Well you can use teeth if u want

[tulip rapids]

$100+ abs keycaps lets use nails and teeth on it...

[tidal frigate]

Well do you want scrape keycaps with metal?

[calm pulsar]

Harry, I already told you I'm buying them. You don't need to sell them to me.

[tulip rapids]

naw i use polish metal. Materials made straight from the core of poland. Never scratch any material

[tidal frigate]

@tulip rapids does your language has gender for words?

[stray tiger]

@glacial wind if you have an OW60 I think the Sparks might shine on a CF plate for someone looking for a mid tone switch. It's just too muted on almost anything else.

[glacial wind]

oh i need to grab an ow60 soon actually to test compatibility anyway

[tulip rapids]

i only listen to the teachings of poland everything else is Russian propaganda

[glacial wind]

wtf is this new discord shop set

nightmare kitten fuel

[tulip rapids]

no idea

i was confused when i saw it too

go from dbz to RAWR xD

[calm pulsar]

back to 2007

[tawdry tree]

💀

[tawdry tree]

More concerned about QC tbh

didn’t HMX have questionable QC?

[tawdry tree]

Pole guide surely

[chilly mural]

lmao

[tawdry tree]

Still baffled that the beige OW60 comes in a red carrying case lmfao https://youtu.be/nV5ko2O4Bws

[harsh dove]

$1000 60HE build is so last year, it's $2000 this year

[calm pulsar]

nice inflation forecast

[harsh dove]

[glacial wind]

so no issues with the knight v4 so far. They've been performing great. The new wires feel a bit different when i was lubing them but that's about it

[languid kestrel]

I like it ngl

[fluid ravine]

what's different?

v3 vs v4

[calm pulsar]

did you even sleep, cause I feel like you've been testing stuff all night lol

[calm pulsar]

not sure if they teach you that in the US, but it's the difference of 1
subtract 3 from 4 and you get 1

[fluid ravine]

[calm pulsar]

to combat counterfeit products, they are gonna remove qr codes

[glacial wind]

yeah i woke up a bit late but right into testing stuff again lol

[glacial wind]

just some tolerance changes and they improved the wire material it seems. Supposedly housing material changed a bit for different tone but i don't know how noticable that is to anyone

[tawdry tree]

and no included shims anymore

so rip to the people that use 1.2mm pcbs

[uneven cradle]

deserved for being 1.2mm enjoyer

[tawdry tree]

kinda odd that there aren’t more (or any) 1.2mm HE PCBAs

[tawdry tree]

to then switch em out for numbers instead and get sued by TTC 🥰

[calm pulsar]

not a lot of space for wiring

I guess

[tawdry tree]

I don’t think thickness translates to less wiring, you can still have 4 layer 1.2mm PCBs

1.6mm is stiffer but on 1.2, the sensors would be a bit closer to the magnets

really not sure why 1.6 is the norm but maybe I’m missing something

[austere creek]

historical left over but also due to it they usually can be a tiny bit cheaper due to how common they are

[tawdry tree]

shrinking the height of a 60HE through a 1.2mm PCB would outweigh that by a long shot (to calder and only calder) 😂

[austere creek]

i mean the 0.4mm of extra resin wont really make the difference for magnetic reads i feel like

i dont even know if we use more than 4layers because that can get expensive fast on thinner PCBs

[tawdry tree]

it is quite a bit, but higher flux = better is something switch manus claim, not sure if it’s actually true or not.

[tawdry tree]

4 layers on a 1.2mm pcb is more expensive than on a 1.6mm pcb? 😭

[austere creek]

i specifically said more than 4

[calm pulsar]

more expensive to cramp more layers into smaller space

I imagine

[austere creek]

yeah its mainly about keeping distances between the layers and such

[calm pulsar]

I wonder if 1.2mm pcb on HE would be softer sounding, further reducing that typical HE thud on closed bottom switches

[tawdry tree]

oh on 1.2mm PCBs, the layers are actually thinner?

[austere creek]

the inbetween the layers resin is

because well...

less space

[tawdry tree]

interesting

[austere creek]

there is also some signal integrity argument you could make since layers can be further apart on thicker PCBs

and arguably signal integrity is more important on the rather low voltage signals you may process at the start of the press

[tawdry tree]

I thought it just started off thinner and the layers could be the same but that’s only for 4 layers or less then?

[austere creek]

less than 4 is quite uncommon

[tawdry tree]

could be, I never tried a 1.2mm pcb

it’s somewhat popular on mech right?

flimsy ass pcbs with flex cuts lol

[austere creek]

heres a somewhat good view of how more than 4 layer PCBs are constructed

ofc not to scale

[calm pulsar]

looks like flex cut pcbs are super rare and there are no new ones, maybe people figured out its not that nice

I'd rather have it more bouncy and not flexy when pressing down

[tawdry tree]

and the resin between each is less with thinner PCBs that have 4 or more layers, rather than the base getting thinner

I don’t remember the word for it, it’s not base

substrate maybe

[tawdry tree]

didn’t know that either but I’m completely out of the loop with mech (not that I was ever in the loop tho)

[tawdry tree]

same

[austere creek]

in general the cores and prepreg layers get thinner if you want more layers in a specific pcb thickness

and ofc this doesnt go on forever cause at some point its too thin

[tawdry tree]

yeah

[calm pulsar]

same for me, I just have this luminkey lx60 included pcb, don't know if it's 1.6 or 1.2 even lol

[austere creek]

if youve ever seen a GPU pcb repair of cracked PCIe slot hook areas you can see how crazy thin they get

gpu pcbs are also 1.6mm i think

most edge connect pcbs are

[tawdry tree]

makes me think of this every time I see it haha

[austere creek]

i guess pcbs are like spekkoek in a way

[tawdry tree]

yes lmao

[austere creek]

but yeah reasons are simply 1.6mm is more of a "standard" and widely used. gives more options to ensure signal integrity than thinner PCBs. sensors shouldnt have a problem with the flux difference between 1.2 and 1.6mm pcbs

youd also know if the pcb being thicker is an issue when bottoming out doesnt work properly in 99% of the cases or the start really

[tawdry tree]

fuck standards but it makes sense. is there no gain at all with the magnet being 0.4mm closer to the sensor at all you think?

[tawdry tree]

I do see some pros of a 1.2mm pcb. it kind of defeats the purpose but it’d be interesting to see what a 0.4mm thick plastic sheet does to sound/feel in between the PCB and switches.

PET film can have a bit of an effect already and it’s really thin.

[austere creek]

if my hazy memory serves me simon and i talked about what end of the sensor range is easier to read the difference in value from and he said the end (i believe) was easier to read the value difference

i think it was something about the distance - flux relation being much closer with each step of mm distance in the beginning of the sensor detection range

[tawdry tree]

yeah that I picked up too, but it would be closer to the sensor throughout the press, so at the resting positions too. maybe the earlier stages of the press would be easier to differentiate/offer higher resolution in?

[austere creek]

so i guess it could improve that but youd also nerf the bottom of the press

[tawdry tree]

oh lol

[sinful furnace]

Anyone know where i can get my hands on the raptor v2’s?

[low coral]

The Geon store, divinikey or deltakeyco

[broken sundial]

quick question, does friction fit pad comes with the optimum case?

[glossy pagoda]

Yes

[broken sundial]

but i just received my optimum case, and couldn't find the pad inside the box

[glossy pagoda]

Best to contact support then

[broken sundial]

aite thanks lot

[tawdry tree]

The pad isn’t inside the optimum box, it’s in a separate box.

[jade storm]

HM66

[tawdry tree]

omg

[jade storm]

😄

[tawdry tree]

https://tenor.com/view/sleepy-dog-sleeping-sleeping-dog-dog-sleeping-tiny-eepy-dog-gif-2292331323183720739

[jade storm]

With 7U.

[tawdry tree]

I have a board that support 7U 64%

didn’t get around to build it yet tho

[jade storm]

Holy shit

Which one?

[tawdry tree]

mech one

not HE

not that special but it is wireless too

[jade storm]

Nice dude

Don’t they have to shorten LShift to support 1U RShift?

[broken sundial]

only got two boxes, the module and the case, both doesn't have it

[sacred elm]

Reach out to support https://wooting.io/support

[broken sundial]

yep, sent a ticket to them

[tawdry tree]

these are all the layouts it supports

it’s kinda crazy, even for mech

LShift is 2U for 64%, yeah

[lime yew]

That was at the launch. As far as i am aware the friction pad comes inside the case now.

[tawdry tree]

Oh nice

👀👀 https://youtu.be/CZfLLKjJCxo

[peak breach]

thockkkkkk

[misty sapphire]

ooo i like that alot more than the owlabs

[stoic ocean]

The case i am waiting

[steady halo]

ngl i was amazed how venom was one of the first keyboards to be sold on riscV mcu (i haven't deep dive the market tho)

[cloud pivot]

this doesn't compare to the loose vintagey clacks from raptor v1s smh smh

[steady halo]

it's interesting how the future microcontroller market will be

[tropic urchin]

Can’t even stem swap them either, they’re trash

[cloud pivot]

switches aren't soulful and exciting if you can't stem swap them and gamble with different factories tolerances

smh

[fallen pecan]

phylina selling metal cases for 5xx yuan or 6xx bundled with wrist rest

cf surround is attached with magnets

going on sale Aug 16 6pm china time

@gaunt plume https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=966519408857 cerakey x gateron switch

xvx moa dye sub pbt caps with "ceramic glaze"

[narrow crypt]

ok you got me I just ordered rpator v2 to replace my owlab ti... lets see when tikken is available if I swap again

[humble surge]

May i ask for link for these? 👀 👀 👀

[fallen pecan]

https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=964350139641

[humble surge]

Common TaoBao W

[tropic urchin]

Tikken will have similar stem wobble as your owlabs and will sound deeper

[tropic urchin]

Damn I want a hype alu plate so bad but only red and black available 😭😭😭

https://tenor.com/view/dance-coffin-meme-rip-gif-16909625

[little glen]

My hype fr4 is on the way

I hope neither of us fucked it up 😭

[tropic urchin]

Worst case I guess you just don’t get a F13 key

The mode still messes up with more then 2 profiles so ig you’re not missing much

Never thought I’d be maining alu with 80HE but raptors are too good on it

Even with shoddy tolerances from TKBM

[little glen]

Worst case i get an ansi plate

[tropic urchin]

You mean best case

[little glen]

Best case as in i cant use it and thats good cause you dont like fr4?

[tropic urchin]

I’ve liked FR4 for 95% of switches but raptors are on the quiet side with it for me

I only inherently dislike geon FR4

[reef oar]

anyone got them on cf here or no

[tropic urchin]

Sno does if you check the pins

[reef oar]

bet

[tropic urchin]

The TL;DR is alphas sound nice, stab keys (enter, right shift etc) are hella sharp sounding

[slate fox]

[tropic urchin]

I would’ve mained CF otherwise

[reef oar]

it sounds okay

[little glen]

I might replace the raws in my venom with raptor v2

And run the rawhuks with fr4

[tropic urchin]

Once you put it together it’s much sharper than any other spot in the board

Irl atleast

It sounded like owlabs on steroids (the worst parts of it) and it had to go after that

[reef oar]

i'd have to find out for myself since there's too many factors

the jades are like a choir rn

[tropic urchin]

Worth trying but I’d have 1-2 other plates on standby in case you don’t like it

Ig you have PC too but it’ll sound like hot ass prob

Or an actual silent switch

[reef oar]

i'd look into an fr4 since i could prob bundle it together somewhere

[tropic urchin]

FR4 is pretty safe

[reef oar]

ideally cf works though

[tropic urchin]

Hopefully you’ll like it

🌹

[reef oar]

my fingers died swapping into the cf plate

[little glen]

I need wooting to sell separate plates fr fr

[reef oar]

legit 0 tolerance

[tropic urchin]

1,000,0000,0000,000000%

[reef oar]

literally disassembled switches trying to pull them

[tropic urchin]

Criminal they don’t

[little glen]

Isolated leaf spring mount wooting when

80he v2

[tropic urchin]

I just want a good alu plate that isn’t a Chinese knock off

With flex cuts and other shit

[reef oar]

also when is this switch selector coming out on wootility

it's been eons

[trail bane]

XDD
https://x.com/sikakeyb/status/1955915158121029985?s=46

Sikakeyb (@sikakeyb)

Six years ago, we boldly introduced the Split Spacebar design, giving users more flexible layouts and customization options.
Now, seeing the WOOTING 60HE V2 adopt it feels… familiar 😉@WootingKB
#SplitSpacebar #SIKAKEYB #Wooting

X · Aug 14, 2025, 8:51 AM

[reef oar]

dpmo

ts ass cuh

[tropic urchin]

So sikakeyb is to blame for split space bar

My day is ruined

[tropic urchin]

That’s another week added

[reef oar]

[sacred elm]

soon™

[chilly mural]

some praising HM80 while the layout is taken directly from 80he lmao\

[reef oar]

it's gonna be a christmas present isn't it

[tropic urchin]

No that’s tikken when it launches

Source: my ass

[reef oar]

might need to verify this source

[tropic urchin]

https://tenor.com/view/colonoscopy-gif-17244337852250236615

[chilly mural]

Maybe when 60hev2 launch switch selector is launched

or when the knob is launched since tikken is still 4mm

man, I'm soo itching for the knob

[fallen pecan]

this predates the 80he

[chilly mural]

???

Okay I'm a dumbass then

[tropic urchin]

Geon has good taste

[chilly mural]

soo long ago

[tropic urchin]

Or maybe not geon idk looked like a stream SC 😭

My mental head canon is geon

Nobody can tell me otherwise

[chilly mural]

Hand + keyboard = Geon, got it

[tropic urchin]

Didn’t you know he owns that camera angle ☝️🤓

[cyan lark]

Maybe they will make good on the bg service 🥱

[glacial wind]

Eh it’s kinda true but not true for that. Hm80 was fairly surely based on 80he but there were similar to 80he designs in the past

[little glen]

Good morning

[tropic urchin]

How raptory is everyone feeling

[little glen]

not very atm

package not here

[humble surge]

V3 levels now

[queen otter]

only difference being that the 80HE is an F13 kb

[queen otter]

good morning

[trail bane]

On oblotzky Summer discount on in stock gmk sets

[little glen]

i need to check that out

[tropic urchin]

Your mom going to put you into an early grave if she sees your bank statement 🤣

[little glen]

this is huge

6 pick ups on average

[tropic urchin]

Get that GMK dragon witch type shii

[trail bane]

Fuuck fr

But gmk copper isn’t in stock so

[little glen]

not in stock

[trail bane]

And i have only 90 bucks rn

[humble surge]

the only Pick up i recognise

[little glen]

gmk norde on sale

[tropic urchin]

Pain

[chilly mural]

RIP

[tropic urchin]

They do have other purple sets but not quite as exquisite

Luckily my purple set will be Selene and look like cam’s cosmos set but with more color

[little glen]

unfortunately oblo discounts are never as steep as others

[tropic urchin]

Even just having DW would be a big step up

There’s gotta be like second hand in the EU somewhere surely

I’m invested now and it’s not even going to be my set

[humble surge]

ayo, that is nice 👀

[tropic urchin]

It really does look like you’d only fit it on Reddit

Sadge

[tropic urchin]

If you’re into a more hardcore purple GMK Selene looks nice

[trail bane]

Still looking for some fire white sets ABS/PBT

[little glen]

check out black on white 🔥

[trail bane]

[glacial wind]

quickie tikkens full keyboard test you wanted @sacred elm

[trail bane]

I need something cooler than regular bow

[glacial wind]

Tikkens, 60HE V2, FR4 plate, Optimum case

a bit of air con noise in background because it's hot as balls right now and i didn't want to turn it off lol

[trail bane]

Wow!.. thats sounds… like… lekker…

[sacred elm]

Sounds good, need Raptor sound test now

[trail bane]

Yeah 4.0mm is not for me

[glacial wind]

i'll do raptor another night when i can be bothered swapping it over

[chilly mural]

HOLY FUCK

[little glen]

what temp is it for you

[glacial wind]

this is basically stock without anything changed besides just case swapped over

[calm pulsar]

sounds quite plasticky imo, but that's to be expected of friction mount I think
but I'm sure it feels different irl

[little glen]

i am melting over here, 34c today, 36 yesterday

salvation 60hev2 sound test when

[glacial wind]

yeah if people think that's higher pitched then you're going to hate the other options lol

[chilly mural]

I'm digging the sound

[glacial wind]

raptors, owlab etc are all even higher pitched

[chilly mural]

It sounds closer to how I want raw to sound

[calm pulsar]

yeah I'm curious to hear tikkens in alternative mountings like leggera or tadpole, might be deeper than all typical switch options

[glacial wind]

it depends on keyboard too

[trail bane]

Indeed, it shows 29C° but it feels way hotter

[glacial wind]

80he sounds very different with tikkens and other switches

[little glen]

i would like to hear tikkens in all kinds of different configurations and cases and mounting styles etc

[glacial wind]

i'm not sure what the sound has to do with 4mm though

[little glen]

tikkens in gt60

[chilly mural]

tikkens in a woot v1 default case

[trail bane]

The thermometer on the balcony shows 38°C

[glacial wind]

i think lander just doesn't like 60% friction fit sound lol

[little glen]

i need to refill my cold water

[glacial wind]

it has a habit of really bringing out that isolated switch sound, maybe he just doesn't like that

[trail bane]

It has, as example POMs with drilled hole sound different from just reg poms

[glacial wind]

yeah but half the switches have this tone even 3.4mm stuff in friction fit

[humble surge]

tbh no clue what GMK means, first time i was on that site, but i really like the look of both.
Also no clue why a set of ABS keycaps would be 100 EUR XD

[glacial wind]

i don't think what you're hearing has much to do with 4mm or not

i think you probably just don't like the very isolated 60% sound

[calm pulsar]

I think with it being basically limited to silicone you always have that shortened sound which may or may not be something that one prefers

I don't like that shorter sound myself too, but it's something different at least

[tropic urchin]

GMK is the company name, they’re high quality ABS

[chilly mural]

German made, limited quantity

[tropic urchin]

You’re paying for the employee wages and other things that happen during the GB process

[trail bane]

Hmm.. actually, Maybe you’re right. The only way to find out is to open your wallet and buy titons

[tropic urchin]

High quality ABS = high quality PBT

[glacial wind]

yeah the friction fit mounted stuff all sounds very poppy i guess might be the word

[glacial wind]

well you can just compare the 80he test i did already in pins

notice how different tikkens sound there vs this one in 60he

[humble surge]

Selene is on the same site? otherwise probably a skip for me

[trail bane]

Yeah, but I’m using top mount

[glacial wind]

i still gotta decide if i want to use 80he or 60he v2 for the final sound testing config

[calm pulsar]

I suspect tikkens will sound insane in leggera

[steady halo]

(gummy)

[calm pulsar]

like the sound thockson had but deeper

[glacial wind]

just kind of depends if i want it to be poppy or a bit more tame sound i guess

[tropic urchin]

They have the listings for the regional websites to buy from. Selene won’t be available for a while probably into next year

GB hasn’t started yet so still early on

[humble surge]

nvm then

[glacial wind]

hrm would more people be using 80he or 60he v2

[sacred elm]

Have you tried EPDM foam instead of that Optimum case foam

[wooden topaz]

I think 80HE is the most popular nowadays no ?

[calm pulsar]

with tikkens I guess 60hev2

[tropic urchin]

I thought you were baiting at first but I hear it too

[sacred elm]

v2 isn't out

[glacial wind]

yeah i had it in before but the epdm made it sit a bit higher than i'd like in the optimum case

[wooden topaz]

it still is a 60

[glacial wind]

the optimum foam is a little thinner which lets the module sit more lower

[calm pulsar]

nah im trying to be honest

[sacred elm]

Silicon too?

[glacial wind]

silicone one would sit even higher

[calm pulsar]

its not like 60 are not popular for gaming

[glacial wind]

since that doesn't compress as much as foam

[humble surge]

Funnily enough the most confusing part about this for me was that i knew of GMMK, and i had no clue what GMK people were yapping about. Odd.

[glacial wind]

i have enough tikkens to do the 80he as well actually

[steady halo]

i think i might take my words back about purchasing 60he v2 prebuilt

[wooden topaz]

sure they are , but clearly 80 is gonna be the new wooting best seller for a loooong time

[calm pulsar]

now you can be enlightened that GMMK are trash keyboards and GMK are goated keycaps🌹

[steady halo]

module is more interesting since i have an upcoming case

[humble surge]

Not really, i have respect for GMMK Pro

[tropic urchin]

They have the more interesting sets imo

[glacial wind]

bonus points though, who can guess which of the stabs is the single stock stab i have in the keyboard

[steady halo]

the right split spacebar

[glacial wind]

i think this will basically be an exercise in showing no one can tell the difference if both are well lubed lol

one of them is stock gateron stabs, rest are the latest v4 knight stabs

[sacred elm]

Enter?

[languid kestrel]

if we all guess different ones then one of us will be correct and sno's argument crumbles and the keyboard world can keep living in ignorance safely

it's foolproof

[calm pulsar]

yeah stabs are the single thing where I don't really care to get the "best" possible thing lol

because you have to tune and lube fresh stabs anyway

[tropic urchin]

Funnily enough that was my reaction when the gmmk3 pro released same time as 80HE and my first thought was “do these reviewers really enjoy this sound/look?”

They might as well have used Raeds cuz those switches are cooked city

It had to have been a #ad

[little glen]

i just realised i'm gonna have to mix my knight v2 and yikb stabs for the split space 60hev2

[glacial wind]

yeah most folks will be mixing stabs or leaving one stock if they didn't buy 2 kits

[little glen]

i mean i do have 2 kits

but i dont want to crack the second one just for that

[glacial wind]

leave one stock like me and let people play mystery roulette of which stab is the real one

[little glen]

actually i might not need to do it cause i'm ISO

[calm pulsar]

but again, why do you have to replace stock ones🥀

its not like 60hev2 split doesnt come with a full set of stabs

[little glen]

i have stabs

[glacial wind]

okay yeah that's way louder on raptors lol

i changed 3 keys just to do a quick check

[sacred elm]

We love loud keyboards

[glacial wind]

i can record a quick phone one for you

[calm pulsar]

oh btw are they still made by gateron? the stock ones I believe used to be made by gateron and they were thinner to make them work with plate-mount plates

[glacial wind]

Hjk is raptor v2

Rest is tikkens

[glacial wind]

yeah it's same as the 80he ones from roughly looking at it iirc

[calm pulsar]

then they are good for sure

[little glen]

does 60he v2 still have that weird plate mounted compatibility or can i use the typeplus stabs on it

otherwise i'll have to swap stabs between that and my 80he

[glacial wind]

Same keys but tikken now

[glacial wind]

nah 60he v2 is full screw in stabs

should be fine for typeplus stabs, although i haven't tried them myself yet in v2

man phone recording just sucks after using my other mic lol

[calm pulsar]

its like raptors are tighter and more compressed, but its all from phone anyways lol

[glacial wind]

it makes all the switches sound skewed towards phone sound

[glacial wind]

yeah this is why i dislike phone recordings. It makes everything sound weird lol

[calm pulsar]

it applies a ton of compression I think cause in the end everything sounds the same

[glacial wind]

on 60hev2 i have to be extra careful of using different keys too

because of the foam layer right under alphas

normally different location on keyboard already changes sound, but this even more so now with that foam layer

[sacred elm]

Optimum without the case foam 🤨

[tropic urchin]

you just broke my placebo

we should ban phones

[glacial wind]

sounds not bad. Louder/hollower sound

just depends what you like more

[tropic urchin]

just use optimum case and use polyfill tbh

probably best of both worlds

[glacial wind]

you could also tray mount it if you really want zero movement

[tropic urchin]

keep it louder and remove some hollowness

[calm pulsar]

burger mount like we used to do waayyyy back when

https://tenor.com/view/old-man-walker-gif-4456070846517955697

[glacial wind]

honestly these keycaps look real nice on a lot of stuff though. I had the v2 module inside the concrete alumaze looks nice too

it's such a unique coat that one

mao concrete grey

grey/silver keycaps just match everything

i do really dislike raptors on 80he on cf mods though, the sound

it's very weird and not full

[calm pulsar]

is the plate for plate mounts?

[glacial wind]

on 80he?

what do you mean the plate mounts?

[tropic urchin]

let me know if you find a way to get modifier keys to sound like alphas

the alphas were fire

just not everything else

[glacial wind]

i don't think theres a way lol

[tropic urchin]

tuff

[glacial wind]

that's just how it be with that tone

[tropic urchin]

thats what i figured

[calm pulsar]

your cf plate yeah

[glacial wind]

ah i don't think i ever checked actually lol

it's been a long time since i used plate mount

[calm pulsar]

I just thought maybe since if it has plate mount cutouts then stab key areas might be a bit worse sounding

[glacial wind]

it sounds nice on ttc poms

the og louds clack powers through any obstacle

[fallen pecan]

just noticed the cerakey gats are 56~75gf

[tulip rapids]

compared to owlabs would you say its louder ?

[sacred elm]

@tropic urchin jumpscare

[tropic urchin]

oh no anyway...

some people love chewing well done steak every keystroke

[glacial wind]

i don't have owlabs right now. I'll pick one up this month though to finalize some owlabs compatibility tests

[tulip rapids]

ty sno i appreciate it🌹

[sacred elm]

I think they meant switches

Not the case

[glacial wind]

oh

[tulip rapids]

yeah the switches

[glacial wind]

owlab are louder than almost all the mx stems

way louder

clean sound but very loud clack

[tropic urchin]

owlabs are kinda nails on chalk board for me pitch wise after flux + raptors + other switches I really dont enjoy that pitch

[glacial wind]

actually you know what i still think has the nicest sound in friction fit overall. It's not everyones cup of tea, but geon raw he in friction fit still sounds really nice

[tulip rapids]

i love the sound of my geon raws but the stem wobble wasnt for me

my fingers would slip in competitive games

[tropic urchin]

I think you'd enjoy raptors for that

[tulip rapids]

yeah im debating testing those switches out or wait for tikkens

[glacial wind]

The first one is good old geon raws

[tropic urchin]

45g long spring but you can 100% counteract the lightness if you needed to with added actuation/lowering sensitivity in settings

[tropic urchin]

best wobble is raptors

both are cheap so you could get both for same price as TTC POM lmao

if you get raptors now you can get tikken later and forget you paid for raptors in 3-4 months

[tulip rapids]

me owning owlabs for barely 3 months

gonna gaslight myself to think i had it for years

[tropic urchin]

now you got the right idea

[tulip rapids]

just to have an excuse to buy raptors v2

https://tenor.com/view/xrd-exrd-crypto-btc-eth-gif-23801255

[tropic urchin]

actually if you're getting benom AND 60HEv2

get raptors and get 60he prebuilt

which comes with tikkens

[tulip rapids]

[tropic urchin]

solved ur issue mr goku

that will be $250 billable to yours truly

as consulting fee

[tulip rapids]

put it on my wooting Mastercard

https://tenor.com/view/credit-card-smacking-credit-card-on-table-gif-21340324

[tulip rapids]

dw calder covering this expense

[tropic urchin]

@mark is this true

[calm pulsar]

don't tell me you ask for a tip too

[tropic urchin]

Only a very cheap 35% gratuity

It’s very reasonable, everyone is saying this

[marsh saffron]

Pov the subway worker after making my sandwich in 5 seconds

[tropic urchin]

Shits a scourge

[marsh saffron]

I just wanna grind bf6 😔

[tropic urchin]

Is it nice weather atleast

[marsh saffron]

Got another house to do after this as well

[marsh saffron]

Cloudy thankfully

No blistering heat

[tropic urchin]

If it was like 70° in freedom units I’d help

[marsh saffron]

Its like 70 ish