#🔧│keyboard_modding
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it does
No idea. I just have these 'backup keys' for the rest that don't fit on a 60 percent
why the heck does it include 3 2U keys for different rows
Ohh
numpad?
yeah numpad
well
i didn't mean to respond to that, but yeah
anybody? maybe got a mchose
you can use a 2U key on 2.75 and 2.25 but it won’t look great
you do have an extra 1.25 key for the middle one it seems
xD thanks for the heads up then, I'll either find some keys for it or just settle
hmm
Specs Material: AluminumMount style: Tray-mount/Rubber gasketCompatibility: With most 60% PCB, including DZ60 rev3.0/DZ60 RGB-ANSI/DZ60RGB V2/GH60/Wooting 60HE PCB, etc.Weight: 1kgTyping angle: 5 degree Packing List Case (With USB blocker) x1 Silicone pad x1 Case foam x1 Brass weights x1 set(3 pcs) Laser screws x2 pcs
ah, for anyone with cerakey keycaps, there is a set called "H SET-Split SP" which basically has the stuff for a split keyboard
where rakka takka tikken masala pcb 🥀
wait actually
ik Q5 is fake but eek
I’m guessing this year
Bakka
I pray
my worst case scenario is buying benom after arc test drives fluxies
so i get to be a benom boy
🥀
venom better
wooting clears
Bakka betterest
real
benom rgb being slower is some crazy shit 🥀
60HE v2:
probably 1khz to allow rbb
the world is trying to nerf my happiness
time for the age of dark
Rakka dual MCU 
or some might say so the night may reign 👀
catchup product bro
😭😭
I like mustard
I like catchup normally but not this kind
@sacred elm my hand is still cold 😭
not even a role for 10th anniversary

true lmao
is this legit
I don’t trust him
put him on a cross
or the boards he’s testing
exactly
i just wanna get sum cheap shit for rt
mchose is decent
i got their mouse
him saying 80he cheap is a red flag lmao
what does this mean
Yeah I mean it’s putting the 60HE where it should be
baka, he’s looking at the mchose
and there’s some cool stuff
yeah the strap on both sides is insane
wait it really got that
revised
Well he is using xlat
just the switches and knob
Yeah, people were shitting on wooting for bad stock experience, it seems way better now
doesn’t mean anything at all
bro called me baka 🤣
sussy baka
#cooked
ly tho
doesn’t mean anything at all
its not wootings
wooting customized
Okay 
deadass idc if its like super low or high am i gonna see any difference at all
😩
in a typical rhythm game
where u from?
guess
if asia get sayo
noob
smh
ok get mchose
i wanna get the typing experience too
aight
if i end up really liking it im modding that shit
just try it
see how it is
then do whatever
maybe get switches or sum
don’t think there’s a lot you can do to mod it tho
like case swap wasn’t possible iirc
nah im not that deep into allat
just switches and keycaps
maybe lube too
would be clean ash with some blank black keycaps
now though
ughh
ima just get the cheapest one
i dont like how the shipping costs like 30% of the keyboard
its far more reasonable on aliexpress
@tawdry tree curious your thought on wooting v2
deadass do you think its fucking mid
switches are nice
besides switches nothing else seems to be revolutionary
catchup, as in not innovative.
thank you, me happy
makes sense
literal trash in my book
💀
my view will depend on the cost of it
switches are great
if they make it crazy expensive fuck that
and knob too (hopefully)
optimum prime ass build
thockson done did that already

@tawdry tree found a deal on ali for 45 usd should i just pull the trigger with the mchose ace60
they need to send him a free one for that for suree
rejoining the server to hate on a new product is crazy tho
tf, 45 kinda exp no?
you gotta respect it
how much should it be?
isn’t it like $35?
on the mchose website its 39 for the cheapest switches
but shipping man
shit costed like 15
see yall around ❤️
bucks
i'm not even sure what there is to hate on the v2, it literally ticks all the flaws people pointed out before
ah icic
you literally shit on it 5 minutes ago
I don’t hate it
yeah i mean josh
i have no idea why he's so angry lol
trash in his book
can be understandable if he expected more
it puts wooting on even playing field as far as build and such, so i'm not even sure what he was expecting
I kinda did as well ngl
something that’s innovate and pushes the scene as a whole forward, that’s it to me at least
wooting mouse,wooting mousepad,wooting numpad,wooting 75%,wooting 65% were kinda my bets
yeah i'm sure they'd love to do that too, but what would that change be?
v2 was my last expectation
i think people expecting like rapid trigger v2 or something that just isn't going to happen
those types of upgrades aren't found easily
atleast they made the best 4.0mm switch thats ever gonna be released
cause aint nobody makin those
simulation multi-layout support (be it just split space) and even that would still be catching up.
i don't think that really moves the needle at all - it just cators more towards a specific keyboard demo
well the bottle neck of the century that is wootility development is another aspect entirely.
I disagree.
how so?
It’s very rare in the western market and as a split space enjoyer, I understand what it can be.
yeah but again - it would be great for someone in your demographic of preferences, i'm not sure how that moves the needle for people not like you though
and I understand that for people to try it out, they don’t want it to be a decision like the 60he v2 is.
did i get brainwashed by wooting
it feels like every other he keyboard will be ass
i dont even have wooting
they’d be able to give it a try without the con of being forced into that layout if they don’t end up liking it.
just different, not ass per se.
yeah again - that'd be neat but i don't see how that would be a major feature add for someone who isn't matching your preferences
aligner heads or tails
I don’t know what to tell you if you don’t believe less people will try out split space like this honestly.
gotta coin flip to buy the keyboard
🥲
that's not what i'm saying
i'm saying even if they added this feature which would be a benefit and positive, i don't see how it's a major needle mover
we're talking about niche things that don't really matter to general population
wait what are the benefits to a split spaccebar
more people would try it out and potentially enjoy it which can change how people play the game.
extra key basically
why stop at 3

higher number=better
ortholinear enjoyer
i guess we'll agree to disagree because that seems very vague and non major to me
you can look at HM
how many split space enjoyers that brought
woot would be that but even more so.
realistically how many full sized spacebars a 100% keyboard hold
considering the default switch layout
you do the math 😭
i'm not disagreeing with your point that it's a benefit, i think there's a fundamental misunderstanding here
👍
i'm still confused at what josh is even upset about
maybe he's gone deep into wanting daughter board or something like that
what do you think about mchose sno
fine for very budget board where you don't expect more than what it is
Does someone know if there's a place to buy HE switch sample packs?
i think the folks who buy mchose buy it because it's dirt cheap and just want a he board that won't blow up
its not even about daughterboard or anything like that, even if wooting made what he wants he would still hate lol
and that's perfectly ok
you are absolutely right
i just wanna get to know how it feels
maybe i could swap some switches too
i'm sure it feels fine, like every other oem that uses the same setup
i got some budget maybe id pick up 60 pcs of some budget he switch
KPrepublic has some (on AliExpress or their site) and Gateron too.
nvm i underestimated how much do he switches cost
If you’re from Japan, Imoshi sells new switches quite often.
budget is like $20 (which are all pretty shit) but good ones are only around $15 more.
Almost the same price as the board itself but they do help sound quite a bit.
aunt gotta clutch up on the pocket money🙏
I assume he's probably just gone deep into the 'custom keyboard preference' crew and with the way he is usually it means everything that isn't that spec is trash in his eyes
? he's not here
honestly i don't mind if folks have different preference, even if they think something that doesn't meet it is 'trash' to them. Just the part where he felt the need to come to wooting just to ragebait then leave seems kind of loser behaviour
People are just hating to hate
Gun maximum bullet rifle HE switch
Is the friction fit pad compatible with the stock 60he case? Or just alumaze tofu and optimum?
stock is too tight
Cilantro is honestly not a great name. Entire set of people won’t be able to like that switch due to missing the cilantro gene
Damn, unfortunate but I do have a tofu so ill still get one. Thanks!
Actually thockson has been surprisingly quiet for a keyboard launch day
@fluid ravine please confirm you have secured your fathers credit card to purchase the upcoming keyboard
And maybe a Sony lens at the same time
sony lens first, 60he v2 second of course
Hifi he
His curiosity will get him back
He can’t help himself and will eventually end up buying the v2 just to try it out. That is the thockson way
Sonyer
Emboldened in mech to come back with innovation to the HE realm
With sony lens in hand and a wooting in another
Ready for the modding perfection process
@fluid ravine if you get the v2 I want your leggera 
Lowkey need to sell my OG Wooting60HE
So the owlabs cases arent shipping till next week
cause the order is still on hold
are you gonna buy the split spacebar?
Its time
they reviewing orders for scalpers and bots
about to have a second 60he just so my other 60he doesnt get lonely
That’s not how you get a 3rd Wooting btw
Benum 🌹
and WootPad
i know but it's taking them a long time to release orders from beeing on hold
so they probably are waiting for all the units to compleatly sell
We'll see
We doing split v2?
Damn, I got caught
YOU CAN’T DROP PEAK

Probably
60v2 go brrrr

60v2 is like a 5'1 big booty latina
what is 60he+ then
small booty latina?
her twin sister
Same 😭
No, you need 60he v2 turing
🤣😭😭😭😭😭😭
Woot Maxxing
Oh yeah, Im trying out Last Epoch btw @tropic urchin I think you told me??? iirc
You played expedition 33 cam?
The build I ended up trying was fire af
I did a Stygian coal necro
Haha nice, yeah Im making a spellblade mage
Games music is a JAM
That was my first one as a lil melee battle mage
Yeah I never tried mage on LE yet
It’s fun
The spell combination one is fun but it’s like outlaw rogue on retail WoW it requires you to have ADHD
Have you gotten to the ||water area|| in expedition? The battle music in there has me grooving so hard
I’m not sure how much you fuck with add builds but falconer usually is pretty good
haven’t tried but I haven’t been a very add heavy build guy in ARPGs, feels like cheating
That's what I played last time I played so I wanted to try sumn different, I also wanna try the Stygian Coal Lich I think it's called??
Oooo that’s what I’m running
Shit FUCKS
Yeah that one looked fun lol
Big thumbs up from me
My first 2 chars was spell blade mage and warlock
Lich kinda sucked on release, but looks to be in a better spot now
for the FPS fellas, what gaming functionality do u see, if any, w/the split spacebar
alt f4 faster with the key between spacebars
🌹
alt fr4 huh
oppsie
0 for me
It’s a gimmick imo
Some people will use it tho
It’s whatever
wondering if i could find some sort of utility using TFGH instead of WASD so my hand is placed where i could reach both spacebars
also sounds like a pain and a way to speedrun carpal tunnel lol
i can see this
Yeah seems very gimmicky and an eyesore more than anything
i can't think of any way to make it functional for FPS games, but i'm sure someone could w/some twisted layout
dont like non conventional looking boards 
normal sane spacebar >
Arc did but they only did like 1/4 of the things
And aligner was weirdly excited for it before announcement
yea, its just an option so whatever
Don’t have to choose it
u are this close 🤏 to being one of those people who say keyboards without a numpad aren't keyboards 
jokes
Fuck numpad
I said it
You’ve kind of got a point there
u are so brave for saying this in a 80% and 60% majority keyboard server @tidal frigate
@tropic urchin
Just another keybind depending on the game
what fps game do you see it being useful for?
usually the left thumb is for just spacebar jumps for me
Like for example I’d throw one of the map or radio ping type keys onto it in valorant
oh the ping one is lowkey a good idea
Yeah you basically can use it as just another key that’s easy to press
are u an avid valorant guy or is it like a once in a while type thing @glacial wind
It’s my main game usually, and my friends are in the scene plus I live a few stations up from the vct stadium
But lately low on time to play so I just watch more
very cool, got some friends in that scene/parallel to it as well, i'm not in it myself though.
I assume ur in LA or something?
Nah Korea
ayyy lets go
couple friends and i are going to toronto for a bday and tried to get tix to the VCT event there, but the goddamn bots and shit beat us all to it lol. figured that'd happen but it still was a shitty feeling
we're gonna touch grass instead and see niagra falls lmao
are you working within the e-sports industry? hope u don't mind these questinos i'm just geuinely curious
Nah I just happen to be ex content creator so made local friends with folks who happened to be viewers and worked in esports
Just weird coincidence that some of them lived in same area as me
Saying what
that's sick, i was actually in a similar boat. i'm in SoCal and became friends w/some content creators cause of my profession at the time @glacial wind
I didnt say that
you're looking for me 
hahahaha

😭
👀
centerpiece clears
even if it sounds like wet ass, the koi animations are pretty sick
yes, if you look directly from the top
lol
When's pre order?
mhm
centerpiece preorder?

we dont know about v2 preorder yet
I was excited you were hyped for centerpiece for a sec
🥀
Midpiece
Wait I'm so confused 
the finalmouse keyboard
Dafuqqq
I was confused with shafie since I thought you said the same thing
OH THIS PIECE OF SHIT
its been teased for like 8 months

wdym

wdym wdym
Ok I scrolled up
Ig I asked at a bad time
Bad timing 
its thocky tho 🥺

the bubble pop mildly cool but it sounds like wet ass still
60v2 is all i need but the q4 2025 is 🥀
i know i said i hate non standard layouts, but i really want the class 65 
its so thicc and clean
i have like a day more to decide
if they made a better green with gold id say it looks decent
bro just said 2010 monitors LMAO
https://youtu.be/k_zWFdqOFCU?t=368
heres a sound test to convince u
BUILD SPECS:
Board
— CLASS65 v3 — https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=124765.0
Switches
— NK Classic Blue
Stabs
— Type Plus — https://kbdfans.com/r?id=8u315r
Keycaps
— GMK Boba Fett
Note: Some of these are affiliate links and i get a kick back! They help support my channel. This is a sponsored review, but all opinions shared...
Now that's what I call a keyboard
What in satan's butthole is this
Looks cool though
what the fuck
💀
Idk what I was expecting but it was not that
for those who have owl lab ti switches, how did you guys lube them
Factory lube is quite great. Otherwise just like you would any other HE switch
would the old guide from wooting be okay
Yes sir

Reall
I agree, but part of the reason we didn't just drop it on the world out of nowhere is so that people who bought the 60he+ don't feel like crap for doing it. Plenty of time to know what's coming
Understandable
fr i got my 60he+ in fall 2024
It's okay, when 60HEv3 drops, people will feel like crap
but now i can get two 60hes🫦
Same goes for the big resellers who do us a service by getting Wooting products to places we don't serve effectively. It would be a dick move for them to buy thousands and then we make their product less valuable before they can sell the inventory
Mark, when can we see 60he v2 case pictures?
Computex content probably
We haven't really decided that, we'll let the market tell us
Heh same answer to both questions

Soon tm

cam do you have tikkens?
Nah
i wish i could go to computex 
@glossy pagoda is removing postcard from existance on video equal payment for soundtest?

What
he rips his wooting postcard in exchage of a favour instead of sending it in
Lol no
Well then
Unless you know how to teleport to netherlands i cant get favour in 48hrs
what if hear me out
i post more pictures of my floofy cats. Can i get invited to computex?
im just a young alien monkey with a dream
You can enter computex as customer on last day
you replied so fast my message was uploaded late
I don't not have not Tikkens

blink if youre okay
they cant hurt you anymore
Cat pictures are top priority
Mark do i have 30d return policy on ow60?
Yes
Well
Tikkens already sound good
If there is livestream on computex why not soundtest live on ow60
Because sound tests are extremely difficult to do correctly
Doing it at an event is worthless
For digital release anyway. In person it would be valid
Well
Very off topic, but the next generation of jailbreakers really are something. Check out the note. (New Orleans prison break)
*too
Americans now build prisons out of paper?
“To easy lol”
That is one of the 2 building materials they have (the other is extra flammable wood beams)
Who dat
Smh 
nah bro but a goon screen is crazy icl
Send finalboy a DM maybe he can hook you up
Thocky 🔥
all materials in the greatest country in the world are unbulletproof
do you think i can get away with adding the num row along with the alphas? or would that make it too close?
my current num row feels too hollow for me
Does anyone know if it is possible for me to put the ISO space bar that has the symbol (•••) in the ANSI layout?
What do you guys make of this switch?
I believe we’ve had a few folks use that case before yeah
ooh, okay, i'll definitely add this to my list
If you search hibi June here you’ll probably find some photos of wootings inside hibi June
will do, thank you!
would this fit on my wooting two
Looks like it
I wonder what's his reaction now with wooting Knob being teased
is the knob really a benefit or more of preference tho?
Could be nice for productivity.
Don't really understand what's behind the mind of people that wants knob
controlling volume I guess
any1 has bought keycaps from https://www.thekapco.com/collections/kapco-artist ?
they look sick
Its been teased for like a year
But never this blatant, like a whole page dedicated to it
never heard of this company and the prices are extremely cheap
I wouldn't personally hold my breath on the caps being super good but probably fine for the money
looks pretty cool https://www.reddit.com/r/WootingKB/comments/1jsnzi6/color_shifting_painted_80he_with_black_zinc_case/#lightbox
quality seems good
get em if you like em
def!
Volume control ngl
Since most headphones that have button that change in weird increments
And pressing two tiny buttons is too inconvenient
i dunno I just do it on the keyboard, but if I had a knob I'd certainly use the knob
not a dealbreaker anyway
buttons on headphones is a mad idea
knob is a cool optional add on for those interested and that it can be placed anywhere and programmable even cooler 
and it works on all arm based wooting keyboards 
thats up to you, but i would do alphas only
Imagine you spin the knob and it changes to certain FN layer and keep it like that. It'll be cool
why are they comparing their 350$ keyboard with a drunkdeer?
sounds very muffly gen 1 he type sound
as if drunkdeer isnt garbage 😭
compare your 350$ keyboard to a modded wooting ffs
sounds like lekker v1s
like for real
the worst part is all the finalboy dick suckers are gonna be glazing the thock so hard
also you cant mod it, swap switches etc. the product is absolute joke
completely proprietary switches 
have they announced updates on their delivery yet? Because it was supposed to be mid this year which isn't far away now
nope^
This sounds like cheap Chinese Arcade Button
i saw someone post the other day that this is year 3 of waiting for finalmouse keyboard which is insane that it's true lol
also that interactive screen is so bad, youll need to look at it directly from the top otherwise the video/gif whatever will look like shit
why would you even make that
remember back when 80he was being launched people were saying centerpiece might come out before it
ironically im pretty sure its longer
lol
we might literally end up in a situation where wooting releases 2 boards before it comes out
iirc they first announced centerpiece in like 2019 no?
yeah they redid it entirely
and the pro isnt even released 💀
sorry
apple moment
@sacred elm my raiden finally moved
cheap phone + keyboard for $350
yeah you get a cheap screen in your keyboard with proprietary switches for 350 usd
and its gonna be extremely limited stock
typical finalmouse
60hev2 clears
price lowkey not that bad
yeah but you literally cant mod it at all 🤷
spring swap + hand lube at most 
and
it sounds like shit
Have some customizability (switches, case, mounting, keycaps, LED, plate, foam...) While the Centerpiece got... Screen?
Yes screen, gpu and cpu☝️ 🤓
these people are brainwashed
shame that the new board still has friciton mount and no ability to install in leggera and similar cases though
cant you install it in leggera with a friction fit?
the vid sound is "interesting"
I feel like most people would just install it to replace their old wooting PCB
So I imagine wooting plastic case, alumaze, and alike
thats what im gonna do w my tofu build
tray mount leggera maybe but I dunno if friction thing will work in there
Needs to be updated
hope i get my venom leggera build to sound good some day
getting new silver case so im fine🌹

I think its gmk time for me finally
gonna put it on v2
but dont know which set
Oooo yeah!!!
howw
What's your build rn
leggera g + venom60 + aluplate + owlab tis + gmk wob
loud af and spacebar makes the whole case resonate or sum
Swap off alu and throw some foam in if you don't already have it?
Change plate material, prob go for fr4 or PP, I prob go firmer oring like 50a or 70a, less resonance if you're running no case foam. Alu has a more resonance but yet moderate sound to it.
Should quiet it down
Custom
But you should try a firmer oring, it should help
Atp we might as well shock foam
And spray it on our case
Lmao
Or those phone case shock absorbers
and not using the geon foam cuz it pushes the whole thing up
any idea where to find those

Poly fill goated, takes out case resonance
oh ye already using a bit of that
It's easier to get orings na
EU
Anyone know any eu vendors that sells orings xd
i know geon sells them on the china store but that shit too expensive to import
How about me wearing iems with foam tip
Yur

Yeah I worry abt shipping and shi
i ordered some like plate and pcb gasket pads things tho
Cus like in NA we get ours from cannon keys and grave shift
maybe they help

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Ugly how chet
they can mess with accuracy
the gold accents
Oh (°o°:)
Ok sound wise how was it
And did you like it or not
i think i preferred the sound ye
Ok then..
I'm sorry but the reason of not using the plate cus of the gold caught me off guard 
will see
i want perfection 
Heh, not until them key caps shine
Finna be reflective as them gold accents


lowkey would like glossy keycap
Let the gold make it shine brighter!
nooo
Brighter than Calders head
Smooth and shiny
No lumps
All things just falls right past it
Oooooo
cant be combining gold and silver

how many shiny emojis do you have 😭
what they look like
they small af
Makes it sound diff
Yeah
I have a glass desk so using these bumpons makes the board resonate less than the stock feet.
It adds a bit of bass punch on the bottom out for me.
On my glass desk ofc. If it's on keebmat, then it's just bright
It's like the sound profile of the board isolates itself without the reverb traveling through the platform
But then there's my neo65, it's feet is like a low profile, sorts like leggeras, prob a bit shorter. On my desk it sounds louder than on keebmat
So really it basically the feet changing the reverb
Ew 
haterr
imma put holes in the owlabs

🤔
Yo-
Bro trying to make his own goals

If there's a hole there's a goaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaal
Ok fr tho how u gonna do that
I'm curious
Honestly? Raeds are the way to go imo.
Well I've only seen Outemu make a clicky HE switch but for mechanical Arctic Foxes are great
if they weren't so expensive, they are like 80 euro cents a switch
what is the difference between the 60he and 60he+?
screw in stabs basically
oh alright thx

And a new strap for my 60he
mark the owlabs cases are on hold till next week right?
The 60He+ uses the same PCB as the 60HE module.
It essentially means you CAN install screw-in stabs if you want, but it does not come with it.
Yea, for humans to review things
We already found one person who posted on social media that they purchased solely to resell at a premium, and we nuked their order
when can we preorder 60he v2 mark
Eventually
sounds good
BRUH
that listing is pretty sketchy. The guys reviews for recent ones have a lot of just 'invoice scam' type 1 star reviews so he may just list things at crazy prices then try to find locally and or scam people buying
Sno I found an amazing store
i dont plan on selling mine anyways
im just glad i waited and didnt purchase a 60he+
look at all those enlightened gentlemen
i think shafie might be interested as well
im standing right there
nice ponytail shafie
are you the ponytail or the guy with short hair and glasses
Secret
Maybe he's a female???
its been there for several months at that price, multiple vendors
last time i checked it was 850
affordable
even centerpiece is better than this
Owlab at least exist
from china is like €440 with shipping and tax included
@glacial wind you arguing with mana, I can’t
how the turns have tabled
2.5u keycaps 😭😭
damn that's almost what i've payed
And I thought you're being too much for wanting the spacebar position to be flipped
yeah, china’s resale prices don’t seem to be that crazy
may change overtime ofc
😂😂
i still don't understand what the issue trying to be solved with 2.5u is
are you ready?
I know the answer but ill get muted
that does seem worth wooting destroying all keycap compatibility and investing $100k into custom molds and keycaps
yes but nobody cares about custom keycaps except you, trust
at least 90% dont care
truss
but everybody totally cares about this imagined symmetry
nah, I’m not even sure why many brought up 2.5u, just the conventional 2.25 - 1.25 - 2.75 split that resolves it (mostly).
even that is not any better by any stretch of imagination
2.5u is technically more balanced between the two but throwing away keycap compatibility for that isn’t worth it.
still no split bs, right shift, symmetrical bottom row🐸
significantly better but it’s probably weird to imagine if you don’t use split space actively
it’s such a small difference but it is a big one.
which way the caps are is of no consequence
my main problem with the layout is that more stuff isnt split
just get used to it in 5 seconds ez
the alignment, one have no room for your right thumb while the other does. it offers both thumbs some room.
it forces your thumb to be under your index essentially, it’s not that bad but not comfortable.
imagine if the extra function key here was right on the 6.25u spacebar slot
lol
Wooting 60HE v2 The Split imaginee
if that's the argument then what about the main demographic -- gamers -- who would use wasd and space
you want to accommodate those people better with a wider space on the left side so they have a more natural position for the thumb
do the 2.5 too
it’s even better for that. when on WASD, your hand shifts to the left by 1U, even with 2.25u the middle button requires a slight reach. With 2.75u, it’s too much.
when on wasd it would be unnatural for me to move my thumb that much to the right
I mean left
what do you make of that
2.5 is not gonna be it mana, you can try it in keyboardlayouteditor.
have you used split space?
it can easily be it though. there is many more benefits than drawbacks.
no, but I can just use the shift keys to visualize where they would be
the tradeoff with most split space are that you can’t press near the center, it has to be the edges of the bar already. 2.75 split is unbalanced, offering no room to the right thumb and too much (not for you perhaps) for the left. This isn’t the case with the 2.25 split.
That’s why one is more common and the other is never seen before.
i feel the word 'easily' does not mean what mana thinks it means
finding sets for 2.5u is borderline impossible
very few would want to sacrifice that for the split
it's literally impossible, i tried for 30 mins
i couldn't find a single 2.5u set
the 2.5u ones i found were typos where it was 2.25u lol
again, this is not some priority at all, you're being mislead by this bubble of a server, and in general, 90%+ of customer base doesn't care about this + wooting would provide additional choices.
yes but trust, this data is based on my feelings and opinion alone, nobody wants custom keycaps
i feel like mana just artificially says his problem is huge and the problem he created with his solution isn't huge
You know, DMK HX20 aren't a bad look on the black Wooting either
you know the sayodevice 66, that has a 2.5u split and got so much hate for it because all people could use were 2.25u keycaps which looked ugly.
you flipped things on its head (because you think this bubble is bigger than it is). the keycap compatibility is 1 thing, while there is like 5 different other things that are not only more reason to do the other way, but more important reasons.
honestly, even if the majorly of people wanted this, it’d still be crossing woot’s rule so even then I doubt it’d happen.
yeah. he keeps saying it's a bubble but there's nothing behind it besides "I think it's so and therefore it's so"
the balance 2.5u offers over 2.25u is very little mana, not worth sacrificing keycap compatibility over.
I really want to see an alternate universe where manabanker can realize his harebrained ideas
his 5 others things is also like a college student who has 1-2 things but was told he needed 5 things in his list
but it's not how any person should operate - don't blindly walk the party line - cast YOUR OWN VOTE always, stop thinking in silly ways like this - this is literally you contributing to the false consensus.
it's like 1-2 you can maybe understand but then he goes into things like "sound" and "click feel" where it's just randomly added in there
I looked through ILUMKB non GMK keycaps in stock and also can't find it
yeah they literally don't exist and his solution is kind of insane business wise. It'd be for wooting to literally become the only solution for 2.5u keycaps and fix the problem they caused by suddenly making a whole bunch of keycaps set
Why kill Goodwill over Asthetic
At least with 80he it's compatible with all MX keycaps and there's like no standard for TKL
so he's asking for rare key sizes, meanwhile wooting can't do 7u and split bs that are in every set
this is not how democracy etc works lmao "I think many people think that other way, so it's not gonna be possible, i'm not even gonna cast my vote for this" COME ON.
the outrage you would cause by causing complete 100% keycap incompatibility would be so many times bigger than any benefits from making a 2.25u key 2.5u
🥲
it's how herd mentality works
it's not even rare, it doesn't even exist
There was a big enough outrage over the 80he not being TKL I think this would somehow be worse
You have to buy extras to use split spacebars
like the only sets you can find is maybe some random keyboard brand made a 2.5u board that didn't sell and you harvest the keycaps from that lol
I cast my own vote for 2.25 mana, as that offers the perfect balance between usability and compatibility in my opinion.
wrong reply.
That's soo expensive and painful
but I don’t want 2.5 and I don’t think most would want that.
I think wooting should come up with their own keycap standard to accomodate unreasonable demands from people that dont know what they are talking about
That would be a good thing actually
That’s why 2.25 split is so much more common.
if you put a poll up online the 2.25/2.75u solution would win in a poll vs 2.5u by such an absurd margin
and that is shitty on its own
even just a general public poll there's not a chance the 2.5u solution would win
too bad wooting is a company of like 3 people who don't have industrial designers and can't put a couple of extra sensors on the pcb
and I don’t think most would want that.
WHY ARE YOU EVEN MENTIONING THIS? you have no idea about this at all - this server is an extreme bubble. 90%+ of customers that buy wooting don't care about this.
it's ridiculous to talk on behalf of others, especially when you're in an extreme bubble here.
holy 🔥🔥
90% of statistics are made up
mb has just consistently had the most insane ideas, somehow convincing himself that the odd thing he thought of is reality
i feel like he just polled himself and decided he represents the average customer lol
From where is that number coming
FROM YOUR HEAD
Sayo got a lot of hate for that split and I know people value keycap customizability.
when they said "believe in yourself" it doesn't mean that every idea you have is good
Who you are talking about
I need source and statistic.
Source? 🤓
I made it the fuck up. 
It's like at least 5-10 people here doesn't want it, so that's enough for me to think that your suggestion is kinda dumb.
People swap keycaps to make the keyboard look better, even if its cheap keycap set. What do you mean 90%
I don't see 2.5u cap here
yeah but 90% of users don't care about that, trust
it's the same concept as being fed an algorithm on twitter, and being swayed by it (often unconsciously).
you're living in a false reality.
I think all wooting boards should ship with stepped caps from now on
the irony of the statement is he himself is trying to talk on behalf of everyone else
I think you need to get off twitter
90% of customers would appreciate it
i'm not sure why 1 manabank would better represent the people than literally everyone else in the keyboard space
I never had issue with my algorytm because i know what is true and which is rage bait troll and fake stuff

At this point, I need him to gather like 10000 woot customer's signature before he can yap about wanting 2.50 and how everybody doesn't care about it.
And new strap for my 60he
Naisu
Thats so nice
I want to get a keychain like that tbh but too lazy 
won't you need 2 for the v2
@glossy pagoda time to buy ow60 ends on monday right?
Still dont have a strap for my gt-80
buy it
I've got options
where is the wooting luggage strap though, that's the one thing i actually want
AAOLKUJ:HGJASFLKJHAS
that is what we need
You can't
it's crazy - there is already 2 PCBs, and people in this bubble still demand some complete keycap compatibility - you have full compatibility already with the normal PCB - can Wooting make ONE UNCONVENTIONAL KB, THAT ONLY HAS SPACEBAR UNCONVENTIONAL ? what is this unhealthy obsession with compatibility - when it causes so many other more important problems. it's some mass-psychosis at this point.
They should make a post in #1141096226884956181 instead of screaming into the void
80he and uwu is unconventional enough, and 60hev2 with double strap is certainly weird. But 60hev2 is actually weird on its spacebar just a little bit by not following what's commonly followed.mmm
I think you need to touch grass.
given manabanker's previous posts in #1141096226884956181 I don't think anyone here comes out the same person after reading them
this feels like one of those 'everyone but me is insane'
“If you shout long enough into the void, the void begins to shout back at you.”

It should be tripple strap with vertical strap
Anyone used typeplus yikb stabz which washer do u use square or round
Never mind think it's flat by the stab and round by the screw
yep
I'm not buying the split version anyway but I have way more invested in keycaps than I do boards and Id never touch a board that didn't use standard caps. Someone selling a board like that would be financial suicide in the hobby.
I'm not buying it because it's not aligned better (mostly because it will be annoying to use for typing), and also would be nicer if both spacebars where symmetrical. and normal 60he upgrade is not worth it if you already have old 60he.
yeah honestly all variations of split spacebar are just worse than solid spacebar - they should instead have added two 1.25u keys on both sides (becoming Alt and Alt Gr), and made spacebar 4.0u (also with OS key becoming 1.0u).
@stray tiger Have you tried 60he v2 with friction fit pad in leggera T?
Nope but if someone has the optimum case still they can try
I think @harsh dove does
I really like leggera but not sure if it will work fine with friction pad, will i need grounding pads or anything
Dunno but the thin ones are good on the front where the stabs contact the pcb feel sturdy the back ones can go I ent peeling the plastic of the back of the pcb
I can't tell you that you won't. I can only tell you that the need for them is rare. Some believe it's better safe than sorry.
Alright thanks🌹
None of mine are grounded but I'm missing a few tools in the toolbox
Ill probably still get v2 case and wont bother with leggera
@stray tiger, thanks for the TIs recommendation! I like the sound out of the box better than the Wooting POMs (I never lubed them), and fatigue is gone! I can wait for the new Lekkers now
Tee hee
They’re way better than stock 80he pads
Hello guys. Which is better? OWlabs Ti or Gateron Jade Ruby for the sounds? I currently use geonworks raw he. I want a more louder and cleaner pop sound
owlabs are louder





