#🔧│keyboard_modding
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also they apparently sound more like the Fluxes
yeah but i think the 20% number is nonsense
That is what my quant estimated
20% is a big difference in physical movement, i think his quant is just saying stuff
you also need to stop calling your modder a quant lol
Its a joke looool
my preference is 100% better than everyone else
lol
Ill test it later 1v1 and ping you guys
any keys or a few?
yeah just try it yourself later, but do it blind
I prefer more wobble so jokes on you guys
raeds better
lekker v1 enjoyer
like i legitimately think you're way overanalysing the whole thing lol
they're probably almost the exact same thing and it's just placebo need to feel there's a difference
They are a different design
So I imagine there would be slight differences
but allegedly they are more wobbly
like a lot
i'd wait till it's actually measured
but ill see later
lekker v1 wins
like always
i don't trust anyones physical shaking videos generally because people suck at guessing that stuff
Yeah I need to feel it myself
like just keys in a different flex spot of the board can produce wobble differences even
now i know i am too drunk when i pause my music to listen to that shit
yeah its always so weird
cf plate
and when we're talking about differences of like 0.05 or whatever i think physical shaking is a bunch of bs
even the same switch people can press differently
like it's so hard to press them exactly the same as a human to tell the difference at those levels
but 💯
Ill try later myself
If you are right
i cant say i love he boards since i never switch tape modded my switches
oh my other owlab switches arrived, i have more than 1 single owlabs switch now lol
your fingers are wobbly
hit the gym
wtf
Shf cant catch a break lol

camera this, flux that lmao
sorry I died in hollow knight again
how did you even get 1
i bought just 1 switch when i was buying some other stuff from swagkeys

all gud i gave up
they sell switches in individual amounts in korea
Imagine they forgot
I won't
some day
some day i will finish this shit
its such a good game I can't believe I started it once and never finished
now im on 97%
masochist 
not even 98%
lost his mind
in case bro delete his msg
I won't
i wish i took a screenshot of turingtest tongue typing his board
in case bro delete his msg
that shit was goated
but fr I love the music and the design in this game
WHAT
ohh I remember that
bro deleted hella fast, i was still in shock
you know if you have arm strength issues a fully kitted out fx3 with 24-70 gm ii lens is about 1-1.5kg, would be good arm exercise for you long term @sacred elm
lol
after that you can move to a custom electric guitar, mine is a little more than 3kg @sacred elm

yeah don't get distracted too early. You want at least 2-3 solid FE sony branded lenses to cover the full zoom range first
I can recommend going to keeb meetups
Carrying 8 boards at once makes my arms and back still hurt after 3 days
he left a 💯 reaction, but I have a feeling that it was not sincere
I think he didnt even read it
maybe he already knows way more about lenses than you, sno
that's true, it's why I keep a hourly watch on the sony stock levels for him to increase his lens options even more
As of 4pm the 16mm f1.8 is still not in stock @sacred elm
in case bro delete his msg
in case bro delete his msg
Changed the button.
Hrm I can’t help but notice fartcoin is up 250% this month. This is a sign of a good economy
Those buttons rattle, you gotta lube the switches
I'll replace the whole switch soon, it's getting worn out
obv
i'm scared to check what the return would have been if you bought into fartcoin in november
its a blue chip investment
ah just a mere 2500% return if you invested into fartcoin at launch
this is clearly a sign of great economic times
[IC] ESU67 | EA ZSOO STUDIO
god damn am i tempted
its so useless lmao but it is cool
that looks very bigsly themed
World is in between box 1 and 2
Standstill in LA port
Sorry for econ drop
Ive never seen anything like it aside from covid
does it have gas fees
not sure about gas but I read something about every transaction triggering a digital fart sound. very classy coin
well thats what happens when you charge madeup taxes for made up reasons and then even charge customers a 100usd minimum import fee on any individual package (and apparently starting june 2nd its 200usd minimum)
oh geon finally be selling wooting pcbs?
the MX version just got pushed back a month and WOB are already advertising the HE version
pretty good pricing, saves on the big shipping cost
just post this screenshot every time people try to start a wooting vs venom debate lol. Geon himself explaining that both have different advantages and disadvantages
we've never asked calder who his hairdresser is on stream before
someone add that to the qna list

i always forget how absurdly bright the stock wooting is
lol he's shocked that it's already up to date
english
time to pray theres no ghost inputs for any reason
no rattle on his stabs
any pics or info on it?
that's good at least
the english translation just gave up i guess
oh he's going to test out some of the akko switches
hm yes
damn my korean vocab has gone to shit
can read chat, dont know what Im reading 
does anyone have a video comparing ttc pom vs the regular ttc magnetos?
there's one on wooting channel isn't there
he going to sell them?
yeah geon will be stocking wooting locally
as an vendor?
will we able to buy it or korea only ?
no idea if it'll be on his international store, i'd assume only his korean naver store
i might purchase the wooting from geon's web for cheaper shipping
ah sad
where are you from? Shipping from korea isn't usually cheaper
Indonesia
it's cheaper from geon rather than wooting from my experience
wooting can be 30+ usd
befor extra cost
Geon will be just as much for a keyboard
this will be around 45 usd after extra cost
ye but for asian countries is cheaper from geon 🙂
rather than wooting i guess
Nah its still super pricy
as soon as it leaves Korea the price climbs especially for keyboard weight items via dhl
Within Korea it’s dirt cheap though at $2 ship
nah, yesterday i purchase a lot from geon (total 2,2kg because of leggera) cost around 24usd to Indonesia
no more extra cost from dhl😋
leggera is light just fyi
but shipping to Indo from wooting only fedex and ups which are available
i know
i purchased wooting module shipping 45 usd
i mean anyhow i severely doubt he's putting them on his global store or has the stock levels for that
i'll be happy if geon sells wooting for asia's market😋 (not gonna happen 99%, but hoping it will)
he only tends to put his own stuff that he has big bulk on his global store
everything else is local store only
looks like he's impressed with the light bar features lol
i don't think he realizes his keyboard isn't connected since he turned the gamepad feature on and off

needs to reconnect it lol
oh he confirmed, it'll be korea only
not global store item
he gives wooting and valorant a lot of credit for growing the keyboard space again he says
wooting web has stopped working for me once i installed the app
and it puts me off
web is so much stable that the app
idk how that would be connected.
there nothing stopping you from using both at the same time
Who wants to give me a recap of GEON's presentation? Been in meetings and haven't been able to watch 😅
just click on add device
might be the identifier changed cause of gamepad changes or some other (prob os related) change
he didn't do much, just unboxed the 60he and 80he and gave pricing in korea. He likes the software and clean rgb features and talked about how wooting is popular with korean valorant pros. Said he credits wooting as a good company that cause a new growth of the magnetic keyboard space in korea
pcb like venom, with rgb, then it has a db support + wootility software
a venom rgb is coming right?
he was just responding to a guy who keeps asking for venom rgb. Don't think he's ever said he'd make one
said it'd be cool to have an rgb venom
oh
just write venom with sharpie on a wooting pcb
All i gotta say is
That I’m excited to play silksong
Anyone use ceramic keycaps on zinc 80he can give me a sound test?
hell yeah
(im miserable in trial of fool rn)
Thanks 
Meet my new Wooting 60he+
U started playin?
I got 98% completion
Turning it into a fighting game controller?
Kind of! I needed an accessibility controller that'd let me play driving games using my palms. Turns out there aren't any good analog devices like that out there, so modding a Wooting keyboard was the simplest solution I could come up with.
Very cool
wow thats sick
Hi guys, i have the 80he here. i ordered it with the plastic case. it feels really bad. i m interested in the KDBFans GT80. Do anyone of you have this case?
Just this + printed plastic parts
GT80 is pretty fire, 100% recommend esp if you like modding your keeb
Bro made wooting into hitbox
If ur still struggling use nail arts
yeah, i like. i have the 60he here too. i put it in the Tofu Redux with brassweight. It feels more premium and it's heavy. the 80he in this plasic feels really bad.
Problem? i have to order it from kdb directly. I m in germany, so i have to pay 24€ shipping an 29€ taxes. i will cost me 198€... only the case 
I read smth about using slash to kill flying targets, but Im not sure how to make it bigger
I think mine was like $130 ish with $30 shipping, but 100% worth it to upgrade from plastic @fleet shoal
Just buy some more stuff so paying that shipping doesnt feel so bad

I do that every time i order from kbd to germany
I got the silver and it’s perfect
U can use mark of pride
Kinda wish i got silver
I have gray and its great but i think silver would have been better
oh so it works on nail arts as well
Yeah I’m like 95% sure
I don’t use mark of pride (imo it’s a bit overrated
im using it rn for the flower quest, just to be sure lol
Have fun
done
what do they do? I started these doors but without any bindings yet
do they increase the difficulty?
Yeah they either lower nail dmg to 13, no charms, only 4 masks, and only 1/3 of ur soul
yeah, it says i have to order for 500$, than it will be free shipping 😄
Do you live in germany?
Ye
My Tofu ist in dark grey looks really great. will order the gt in the same colour
I dont go for the free shipping, i just get random other stuff so paying the shipping fee feels less bad
hmm so ideally I might start grinding with all bindings and finish with them faster this way
Entire radiant hall of gods is easier than all bindings pantheon 5
How long did you wait for the case? did you order it from kdb directly ?
If u want to smash ur head against the wall then yes
Yeah i ordered directly but mine was a pre order so my timeline on it will not be the same for you
but if I do one binding at a run I can do 4 runs to cover all bindings eventually?
yeah never even done that yet, I guess im going to be dying a lot
Yeah but u get the “medal” if u do it all at once
Not individually
ok. i bought my tofu from maxgaming. but they don't have it on stock now. i have to wait. there it costs 155€. ist ok.
Your Sound ist amazing. Which switches do you use finally?
i'll see how I do
maybe I'll do all endings and be done for a while lol
Imo radiant markoth was the most annoying one
U will see why
iirc even his normal form was annoying lol
The files for the sound test say what switch it is. The last sound test i posted is a frankenswitch (mix of 2 or more switches) using duhuk core he bottom and geon raw he top and stem
It‘s really good but i would not recommend it tbh cause its a lot of work and cost
When you can instead get owlabs ti he and get a sound that is almost as good for half the price
With maybe even better stability
ok. i heard of the owlabs ti he.
will look for it. Thank you.
The one with the floor was fine for me
oh god
It’s when the floor is gone is when I started tweakin
☠️
155€?
for a tofu 2.0 or redux?
wait if it's 155 then it's a 2.0 right?
It’s not bad after doing it like over 150 times
No, not the Tofu. ist the KDBFans GT-80.
i see
so im assuming by changing switches to 3.4mm travel distance you would need to change the stabilizers to a 3.4 mm ?
Not necessarily, it depends mostly on the keycaps you use. If they’re of decent quality, you won’t have an issue using 3.4mm switches with 4mm stabs.
ah okay, i guess stem spacers would be easier, would they fit inside the ttc pom ? and i guess im looking for 0.6mm spacers?
You’d place the stem spacers on the stabilizer stems.
Geonworks makes 0.4mm and 0.5mm. 0.5 is fine, either is probably close enough.
ohh okay makes sense
And yeah they work fine w/ TTCs
wait on the switches themselves or on the stem ?
Did you encounter an issue or just asking to be sure?
this is kinda my issue
the wobbling
so spacers on the stems (the black part) would fix it?
are the default 80he switches good enough or should i change them?
It should help if not fix it, yes
alright tysm
Depends on what you want/goal of your keyboard, if you like how they sound/feel they’re fine, but there’s many better switches out there
like?
90% of the time they're just fine
They aren't exceptional, but they're just fine!
Like your keyboard will still work as a keyboard with all wooting's advertised functions.
I wonder if I can 3D print these
Out of something like PLA or TPU
Rather than, ugh, spend money. 
You can
I forgot but how thick do these need to be for 3.5-3.6mm switches?
like 0.4-0.5mm thick?
yeah
Yeah makes sense
I'll CAD up a quickie in Onshape and print it out on my X1C later today.
If you want the best cheap switches, owlab TI HE, if you want a less clacky switch probably stick with Lekker v2s, if you don’t care about price and want best stability TTC POMs etc
Cauz I've been having some minor stab issues ever since I swapped to TTC KOMs
and never swapped to long pole stabs
Lmk how it goes
Aye!
No I don’t really understand, if I hold a then and then press d while holding a, what happens? Am I doing something wrong
why are you using snap tap in valo
it cleans up overlapped inputs a tad if you rush inputs a bit at times. You shouldn't be changing how you input your strafes though - there's no need to do that hold a and tap d timing stuff
i sent you a video watch it
I did I didn’t understand what am I supposed to do in val TvT
nothing
that's what you're supposed to do. Don't change how you input your strafe at all
Deadzoning
almost may where the owlabs collab?
just play like normal, deadzone like normal the same way before you had socd on
there isn't a crazy change in playstyle you need to do with socd in valorant - it doesn't have that effect on the game
I mean yeah true
rapid trigger is more important in valo imo.
But what I wanted to know was let’s say I press a then press d snap tap completely cancels a and u move right instead of left, how does rappy snappy work?
Both the keyboards have that
rappy snappy is just a less efficient form of socd in terms of usage in valorant
there's no point having it on
just use socd
i know. im just saying rapid trigger is more important. SOCD just lets you strafe A & D faster. without de-actuating the other key.
Fair enough
Thank you for your time guys
For anyone interested
Sneks have looser tolerances ever so slightly
You can see it comparing vs magneto
Physically and in key wobble
flux clears
do you have it in person now?
There is more of a gap
Yes
Wait are those two different things TvT
If snakes have looser tolerances who got scammed sneks or flux
I am so retarded ngl
Looks like both 🥀
wobble = bad
Its a different design albeit small
You can literally see more of a gap
I just spent 1.5 hours testing switches
Both on keeb and in hand lol
(now you should say that we bought geon raptors instead of fluxes)
Its OC
both
if you dont have poms you got scammed
I will consider Ds Flux 2.0 after rigorous testing
Already have POMs, wanted something different albeit given their supposed QC issues I’ve had 0 issues so /shrug
Im really nitpicking
I tried on various keys
honestly I think you've just gone hyper analysing into something that probably no one would be able to tell or know and could easily decide it's the reverse
i meant people in general not specifically you
And moved my hands on different arrangements
Totally
In that regard I agree
But there is a diff
well yeah there has to be a difference because the rail is in a different spot
i wouldn't say that means it's wobbler or not just from that though
Flux feel is just so good, it’s a shame they didn’t tighten everything up beforehand
im gonna continue waiting till the new switch hype calms down
Its noticeable enough but I might not notice it if I wasnt told
i think unless we actually have someone measuring stuff there's not much to conclude if it takes 90 mins to analyse differences
True
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because it sounds like it's just feel tested which gains us nothing. It could easily be you feeling the difference because you were told it exists and now you're looking for it specifically
Confirmation bias
migss keyboard ranking is as legit as his valorant rank (which was boosted in 5 mans)
he's just making a tier list because it's easy clicks and money
(Shocking)
none of his reviews use any analytical data of any sort and it's just him playing with it and randomly deciding how he feels based on thin air
@quasi hinge just get one of these and you'll be certain
How much
1500 usd last i checked
wheres wooting
where tiger lite gaming
won't be high. Miggs believes in any specs given to him by manus
so all the keyboards ranking at the top will just be whatever looks nice and claims the best specs basically
2025
If its called flux ill buy
ridiculous. Woot should make one
oh. Im blind
i think it'd be funnier to do a parady video of his keyboard ranking
Free software!
Me still waiting for this
I may just change them all to sneks and then run them for a week
Look i tried fixing miggs
"this is the top 10 keyboards of 2025 (so far)" - then you show the keyboards you were sent for free in the order you reviewed them sorted by how much he made profit for selling each after the review
it’s annoying gauss meters that are just on a PCB are so rare
saw one on taobao but no way to mount that either
the reviewer uses a custom cut acrylic base for switch testing anyway
yeah
I mean I have a random stuff like a geiger counter
i wonder what mioni and eyejoker use for their testing
accurate enough ones for switch testing
neither use a setup like that iirc
just a board
or they plug it into a hm80 and write down the values
something like that
I honestly don’t think gauss meters reflect wobble well
cause the sensors most use have like a bigger range
“higher fov” 😭
- I’m swapping switches on a wooting 2he - I’ve taken the top plate off the pcb to remove old switches, am I better off putting the top plate back on the pcb to install new ones? Or should I install them straight into the top plate and then connect to pcb?
no clue what the word for it is
After fukushima I went around yoyogi park deciding if I would continue to visit Japan 
assemble first
I wouldn’t recommend taking the 2HE apart to change switches
the screws can get loose after opening it once
good enough for surface level testing, the values don't range too much either way
cause they go directly into the plastic (rather than having threaded inserts).
If switches are setting off a Geiger counter there may be bigger issues
Nah, no reading haha
Zero
Surprisingly marble gives off radiation
he doesnt test individual switch releases, only new switches if they're in a new board
do you have this list but translated ?
lekker
that's v1 i believe
bad magnet
Yeah likely older magnet tolerances
nah
Sneks not there I suppose
You should go around and just shove it at random household objects and see what gives off the most radiation
I did, the only thing was at my buddy’s house, his marble tiles were just under the safety limit 
did they burned the magnets before testing lekker
The frankenswitch isn’t even box stem either
ofc it will be below every switch
whats the value?
Of course non box stem will suffer in this specific testing
top fucking top performer but at least above the OKT stuff
black knights too
that's pretty fucking dope
nah
At least it’s under
I’m think
because the magnet is closer to the sensor
it isn’t linear
so the closer the magnet is the more it ranges
probably because those are full travel switches, their numbers are exaggerated
has to be
Full travel has always had slightly higher flux just due to more movement with a longer stem
cause there is no world in which stem swapped raptors score lower than KS-20Us
full dataset here: https://www.kdocs.cn/l/cm7TXhkobT9o
5 random ones
no raws or tee hee
not sure how likely that is since owlab is more keyboard enjoyer thing rather than prebuilt gamer thing
those companies probably have deals with ttc at this point since their switches show good results
i read somewhere that a board is planning on releasing with teehees stock
but i could be wrong

Ok so basically snap tap is exactly like socd where when u press d and move right and then press a while holding d it moves left
@tawdry tree Wdym by it takes more skill dawg😭
Snap tap is socd
reread my message
man, snap tap is socd
Rappy Snappy
please
takes more skill
thought u were asking about that cause socd and snappy tappy is the same
I’m sorry
socd (snappy tappy) is wootings implementation
nice if true
Rappy snappy = depth based socd, snappy tappy is last input priority socd
What’s snappy tappy now TvT
@half hill
snap tap = vanilla, rappy snappy = chocolate
So snappy tappy is basically exactly like snap tap but rappy snappy is ass
Got it
I might be crazy but if I understand it correctly, measuring wobble like this is actually meaningless unless you’re comparing two switches with the exact same magnet position and total travel which is pretty much impossible.
Measuring it with a keyboard is probably more accurate because HE boards linearize it
(not sure how accurate that is but there are quite a few boards that score high on the [repeatable] accuracy)
Gauss meters don’t linearize
🤯🤯🤯
Anyone know if this Is this the right orientation for Owlab Ti He’s? I’ve put them in the same way the Lekkers were in, but someone’s video has them the other way around 😭
thank u
It is yeah
correct
yesh
The light diffuser above the LED 👍
Ok thanks guys 
from lekker v1 to owlabs😳
did bro become a tech channel?!
thats gonna be some nice upgrade
Rappy snappy isn't exactly ass it's just a different form of socd
rappy snappy takes a lot of skill to reach half of what snappy tappy can do
ordered them directly after you recommended them to me 2 weeks ago 🙂↕️ first time opening up a keyboard so hopefully all works out
I broke a bunch of the tabs on the lekkers using some shit tool, will that have killed the switch in terms of usability without rattle?

they are still usable
Watched my first miggs review yesterday, it was the gt60 pro one
Bro proceeded to read all the marketing picture sentences, glazing the ugly ass case, saying the rubys sound very creamy and after testing the board ingame, he said it didnt hold him back whatsoever
Thats when i knew that that was the first and last migss review i watched
qk x atk TKL he will have teehees stock switch
also the neo65 he
Whoa this is my first time seeing the GT60 case. That thing fell right outta the ugly tree and hit every branch on the way down.
with wooting 60he to be risk free should i lube just the plastic tips of the switches, scared to do anything fuether im not exactly a keyboard master
You honestly don’t need to lube anything if you’re worried
well it sounds rattly now after year of use
If you mean what I think you mean, don’t do that
I’d personally just use opportunity to buy newer, better switches with a good factory lube job
get other switches instead
lekkers are definition of rattle
alright thanks ill look into it
Oh shit speaking of Owlab Tis, looks like mine just got delivered - a day ahead of schedule!
BY THE USPS 🫡 🇺🇸 💪 @tropic urchin
usps blows sorry
Mods ^

I've never heard of a parcel carrier that doesn't suck
^
hopefully it was a day late
these are crazy
DHL is goated
My local DHL guy and I are buddies
A day early you unpatriotic swine
I am the most patriotic American
I think DHL is the only carrier in the NE region that delivers early without special shipping
Always good to make friends w/ your couriers
DHL is honestly amazing
Even funnier since they’re a German company
Better than the locals
we ball
We have the best beautiful cheek implants in the world. So great. You've never seen anything like it.
you can mount a fucking scope to the thing. what more could you ever want from a case?!
what are the current available alternative cases for the 80he just the gt-80 and bone80?
what do i search?
There will be holy80
80he on taobao
Wtf is this ond
forgot name
That black and pink one is niiice
ye I like it too
just the light bar that is odd
well, non existent really
I think it’s a detachable thingy tho
Ok, i just checked and can confirm that @quasi hinge is not tripping
Theres a quite noticable amount of more wobble on the white sneks, top and bottom. You can actually hear a little rattle when moving the sneks around, which is not present on wooting poms
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did you lube the snakes?
Not yet, i was about to ask if thats why they rattle. My wooting poms are hand lubed
yeah then that's normal so far
wooting poms rattle without lube too
all the ttc switches have a decent amount of rattle without hand lube since there's no factory lube
i have some samples of ttc pom hand lubed vs ttc rgb non lubed before and the difference in rattle is quite big
This really seems to be the case
You heard it guys, lube your damn ttc x wooting switches, its worth the trouble
While youre at it, might wanna get a fresh sony lens too for some quality pictures
At least buy the upcoming lumix cinema cam if you aren’t going to buy a Sony
whats the difference between the poms and the owlabs or is it just preference?
You need some standards shafie
Totally different switch types
Poms are box stems
Owlabs are more like traditional style switches with regular stem
But either way still preference at end of the day
Get some standards, lekker v1 clears
^
not very tasty imo
Lekker also means sexy 😉
🥀
curious about gateron's pom Sakura switch
and Mark means warlike. Now go kick some ass!
To battle we ride! 
On the NK twitch stream Mike just said they are looking at a Sloth r2 or small batch release. So pumped for that
why these over the geon raw HE? basically same price just curious
they can be considered as improved geon raws
with tighter tolerances and cleaner sound
And raws have that little bit of sticking at the top
Yea
As well as their tendency to spontaneously rapidly disassemble themselves
What he said. They are significantly improved raw's. Way better sound, way tighter tolerances, way smoother feel.
AFAICT not having used them yet the only regression on the owlabs is the color for RGB maxxers
Yeah if the TI's has been colorless and full travel, I'd call them my end game switch
I dont use end game loosely since its mainly a myth
Making me wanna go grab the mail now. I guess I will 🏃💨
😳
Ran so fast he farted
We call that turbo mode
Now who wants 90 sneks freshly lubed
Free but I want it to go to someone who would treasure them and is in need
is it just housing wobble?
i would want to try them on my tofu 2.0 hehe
man the switch companies are just milking the HE people
Very minor comparable to magnetos
meanwhile I just buy the god knows how manyth retool of the same switch from 1982
Since I have magnetos they are a downgrade
But only so slightly
Plus they have great magenets
keep in mind he realized his snakes weren't lubed after
so can pretty much cancel out that whole thing
Go to bed!
Both are lubed
after i finish this video on why wolverine would beat spiderman in a fight
Same timezone me too lol
I actually chuckled out loud at that
Classic milktooth packaging
Let him lube and find its the same 
why does it say heavy?
What are you giving away? lol
very dangerous thing to say
50g is what they call heavy, vs 40g
damn so i am working out my fingers
90 lubed ttc pom sneks
But likely cant send to us looool
Yeah dude downright studly fingies
Ye he meant me
I think hes hinting at the fact that you might be overreacting
I vibed totally with what you wrote
Exactly what you described
Alright, I think I'll do this. Thinking about switching back to my GMK Metropolis caps while I'm at it
Ever so slightly enough for constant notice
😭
you have 2 very different things though
But why not atleast put the snek stem in your poms? @quasi hinge
Tried it, wobbled worse
Oh hell nah 😭
100%
Did you get the ogs?
dont worry dtmpd, soon you will receive fluxes
You didnt get the cute box either, im a little disappointed now 😭
Where is my cute snek box ttc
Ill try flux 2.0 after rigorous testing
that was only the limited launch edition with the freebies
meaning shaking your finga on the key press
Meaning ill let others pay 200$ to be guinea pigs
I got hit with sneks lol
I’m still pretty sure if you did a random jumble with keycap on and wiggled the keys without sound testing you couldn’t guess which was snake vs pom
My mistake was assuming sneks would be same
Hard lesson
I dunno but yeah something like that
“Fool me once uhhhh you’re never gonna fool me again”
Wise man once said
They do have a plus
They are smoother
Likely because box stem size was reduced 
Ever so slightly
And they sound more like fluxs
Dont panic yet guys
I will be checking this mans claims with my highly accurate digital caliper, which i definitely did not get from aliexpress
its still somewhat fcked since you can press down at a angle
Mine are OG poms, magneto style
but better than just hand for sure
Whatever bro 
You prefer the POM or why get rid of snek?
“Huuuuuge, it will be amazing, the greatest tariffs the world has ever seen. Nobody has seen this before, great, what can I say, just amazing”
I only have one keeb
it is kinda amazing, i did not expect it would cause problem globally
but i guess we us people be buying shit too much
If Flux 2.0 comes out and is better im in
flux 2.0 double the price of flux 4 dolla per switch
then 100%+ with tariff
8 dolla switch!
Thankfully I dont feel the tariffs yet
And im not in the us
I should be sleeping 💀
GG
Im referring to myself in case anyone is confused
According to my highly accurate measuring instrument, the snek stem has the same dimensions as the wooting poms, or the difference is sub 0.1mm
Maybe its the housing
Which doesnt mean much to you @quasi hinge, since you have og poms 
The mystery deepens
PH spiked the drinking water didn’t they
isnt og pom the same as wooting pom with only color difference
even the lube is the same
I have both, me and my “quant” feel it
The test was to check if snek stem would be more wobbly in wooting housing
Actually have an old distiller to avoid microplastics and dirty water etc
OG Pom has lighter spring
yea but that doesnt change the wobble :3 i feel like if they bother with improving the mold they would fix the lube first
And longer?
I think so too, but maybe the wooting ones have slightly improved tolerances, since they are newer
also tip: the flat sides of the jaws are for measuring diameters of things
Didnt try putting og stems in sneks tho
i personally dont believe hehe
Only snek stems in og
the knife tips are for hole/slot distances
wait i thought the tool was for testing wobble not measuring size 
Someone is gna need to do a PhD in measuring wobble, flux, variance whatever lol
But why POM over Snek?
i saw a vid on bilibili about someone using some cheap tool to test wobble, but i dont remember what exactly he was using, but basically he has a tool with a pole that can be set to a precise length. and the press with the pole checks if the precision is good
I thought Snek was upgrade?
Less physical wobble (IMO & my ‘quant’)
Magnet upgrade but that doesnt matter as it is under wooting tolerances
I wanted it for looks as silver cf looks like snake skin and wanted to get rid of the red dots
how do i get the ihaswooting role
sync through wooting's site
ah ty
there is a vid by wooting on youtube about that i think
snake beneath the alien

aliens are snakes
W POMs
New old look. These Ti's seem great, y'all weren't wrong. Very stable, sound very nice. Not quite as stable as KoMs it seems, but extremely close to the point of pedanticism.
Nah, not from the lore
silva looks like biege under the sunlight, kinda cool
So, snek stem in woot pom housing feels same stability wise @quasi hinge, atleast i cant feel a difference
i can respect the mix and match, imagine if you have this though
but surly wooting will update at some point
at some point
Snek stem in magneto feels worse than snek itself
Wanted best of both worlds
Should have tried magneto in snek
Could go full schizo with snek stem, magneto spring and woot housing 
Looks great, did you paint it or is that raw
Would they fit?
👀 btw are those caps that you tongue type with?
It's raw, the beige tint is really just some weirdness in the photo lighting at that angle. The sun, as joshiba-san pointed out.
wut
Wait
Dont tell me lol
I cant read this before sleep
dont worry about it
Hahahaha
i think everyone in the chat at the time was too shock to capture the moment
HAH!
W POMs
OG POMs are the most beautiful
Breathe deep brother
nah im chilling
i fck with the coffee thing though
coffee good too
too bad i am sticking with black plates
i just dont like that weird pom colorway
I was cursed trying to move away from OGs
dont fw magneto
look wise wooting pom betta
Oh no, what happened?
ye
spring wise idk i dont even remember which is which for the two kinds of pom
Tried the pom snakes

A full basket of snakes, or just a handful?
👆
Long story short is that they feel more wobbly
But im causing anarchy but stating this
People protest without having the same switches
Couldn't tell you about the spring, but the rest would fit
I'll compare the lubed sneks with wooting later, i cba lubing rn 
The only opinions that actually matter are first-hand
What does @snow yarrow think though. Because so far he hasn’t mentioned the wobble stuff
as far as the wobble goes can you notice a difference? Ignoring the non lubed sound
Yeah they’re the exact same mold
For the pom versions anyway
And rgb for that matter
Actually I take it back, there's definitely noticeable wobble on the Ti's on bottom out, but for the price it's extremely good, and beats everything I've tried except KoMs (haven't tried fluxes)
Fluxes have qc issues if you havent heard
Noticeable* if I'm looking at it/testing it, don't feel it wobbling around while typing or anything
I heard that there was QC issues, didn't hear what kind
Its definitely fluxed up
i remember physical wobble wise it aint great either
And tolerances, kinda wild at that price point to have these kinds of problems
I put in some in-ears so i dont hear the sound, now they seem identical
And im trying my best to channel every single placebo cell in my body
the price probably comes from the fancy design rather that itself actually being worth 2 dolla
the way i see it :3
Sure but I thought the whole point of the fancy design was to improve stability
those are kind of issues you will never notice on wooting, but yea there are some switches with stronger magnet ig. ive never noticed and varedis either
Yeah that’s the thing. I’m fairly sure they’re the same wobble because no one else has mentioned a wobble difference except asdasmos and he only noticed it after inspecting for 90 mins after his luber told him it might be different
2 v 1 so far
But hearing the rattle sound definitely made it feel worse to me lmao, was a good idea to try to ignore the sound
and all the Chinese reviews didn’t notice any wobble difference either comparing them next to poms and rgb
Maybe they pay deference to the almighty zodiac
surly not the first time people try something new and did not work out perfectly as expected
that rattle happens even with lubed poms because of square stem, it moves slightly and you can hear it. its normal, but doesnt mean that its wobbly or anything
Not exactly like that
I wish I could send you 3 of each
how do i contact support
Yes, but its much worse unlubed, hearing that sound again digested me
Disgusted* 
I can try full sneks but I did half and could feel it
those plastic calipers are fine. most cheap calipers are. put the thing you’re measuring as close to the top as possible though (the flat edges of the jaw rather than the tips).
Like I tried to watch the video you sent too, but several watches and I see no difference between them either
Have you tried googling "wooting support"?
tbf, no i havent 😭
..
Try it!
I was seeing, if it was like the kbd discord where you can msg them on discord tbf
imagine using google in 2025
At first I thought it was wrong
Placebo
wooting still old fansion way with email and ticket and stuff
yeah lol, they rattle so much while dry
Like the easiest way is to just do a blind test. Mix up poms and snakes and randomly put them into the board with keycap on
Its enough to notice for me
True, duckduckgo on top 🙂
Then try to guess which is which without the sound
okok
If you can guess 10/10 or close then maybe you really can notice some difference
Have someone else put them in if you need to really randomize it
Then there’s no placebo or confirmation bias telling you that one switch is wobbler
and if you can still feel the difference and guess right then you know there’s really a difference
Brave Search?
searXNG if i am feeling nerdy otherwise startpage or duckduckgo. i heard duckduckgo started to "corrupt" as well
Ti's got me all fired up
Okay fair, ill try this
Ill play music
i am ashamed to say that i sometime feel like shutting my brain off and type words rather than quotes
every time i swap board i get fired up hehe
Celine Dion got me even more fired up
new experience within my reach 
I've noticed the same, whenever I switch (ha) it up, I tend to have a burst of really high typing speeds. I dunno, maybe it's the change that makes you think more carefully about how you're typing.
i feel like i just get excited hearing something different than the board i am used to

ideas slowly slip away from your brain as we speak

would it be possible to spot correct a piece of my tofu60 redux case? it chipped slightly
Ive been thinking, could the difference i felt also be due to the heavier spring keeping the stems slightly more stable or am i completely off the deep end now
@glacial wind
I mean that’s possible too, heavier springs do push back more firmly and we’re talking such tiny amounts of movement and force
i think that makes sense too, that was why i tried and switched to 50g for all my boards. feel a tiny bit smoother and adjusted to heavier spring pretty easily.
(but the difference is so smo can just be cope)
50g best
redux?
If theres one conclusion to be made today, its that unlubed box stem rattle is absolutely no joke
when are you receiving your 5pc fluxes
Unlubed? What are we? Troglodytes?
5pc
should arrive this week
Hella wet yo
Moist taps
These Tis sound so good! Goddamn!
Officially, I’ve now convinced 4 people to make a custom magnetic build with POMs.
2 guys are buying 80he, one already got holy 60he and last one still thinking about buying venom60
For me, that’s also a significant advantage, since I’ll be able to try out some of them in real life.
Former First and Last Inquisitor of holy HE POM church*
So by KOM POM collector you mean convert 70 friends to POM and steal one switch from each one until your build is complete?
That certainly wasn’t part of my plan, but if one of my friends buys Wooting POMs, I’ll be able to take a couple for my collection, since it’s not worth buying them myself
lol nice
how did they bend the screwdriver
By not skipping arms day
strong workers
they were trying to get fluxes out of the plate with this screwdriver
Maybe someone make too much wobble tests
anyone try the gateron green dragon he switches yet
green?? im more of a r(a)ed(s) guy
My cars back under its own power 
Still need to do rear brakes and an alignment
But it moves again
just look for jade gaming reviews, its the same switch
just a recolor
From reviews on yutu they just a recolour of jade gaming switches
call @tawdry tree for alignment
Lemme just fly him out to Canada rq

Jade Gaming recolor. Very low wobble at bottom out (not KoM level though)
Its been so long since I've driven stick i can't wait for this thing to be back on the road
6 speed manual my beloved
It may be a slow ass 20 year old corolla by my god is it fun
hey if it works and is healthy thats whats important
Sentimental value is the only reason this car isn't in a junkyard 😭
And it's gonna stay that way

We already put more money than the cars worth back into it
question for yall, so situation, 2 monitors broke, msi replaced a much better monitor to me now for my primary. i am kinda feeling lazy to send the second one out for replacement
the one that is broken now i turned down to 120hz no more flickering
i am considering whether i should send this thing back or nah



sleep is for the weak
