#🔧│keyboard_modding

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sacred elm
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asd said that wobble is noticeably worse, like 20% or somethingsmile

quasi hinge
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also they apparently sound more like the Fluxes

glacial wind
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yeah but i think the 20% number is nonsense

quasi hinge
glacial wind
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20% is a big difference in physical movement, i think his quant is just saying stuff

quasi hinge
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looool

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I trust the guy

glacial wind
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you also need to stop calling your modder a quant lol

quasi hinge
kind helm
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pepenerd my preference is 100% better than everyone else

sacred elm
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lol

quasi hinge
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any keys or a few?

glacial wind
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yeah just try it yourself later, but do it blind

calm pulsar
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I prefer more wobble so jokes on you guys

sacred elm
kind helm
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gigachad lekker v1 enjoyer

glacial wind
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like i legitimately think you're way overanalysing the whole thing lol

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they're probably almost the exact same thing and it's just placebo need to feel there's a difference

quasi hinge
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They are a different design

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So I imagine there would be slight differences

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but allegedly they are more wobbly

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like a lot

glacial wind
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i'd wait till it's actually measured

quasi hinge
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but ill see later

glacial wind
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i don't trust anyones physical shaking videos generally because people suck at guessing that stuff

glacial wind
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like just keys in a different flex spot of the board can produce wobble differences even

kind helm
glacial wind
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and when we're talking about differences of like 0.05 or whatever i think physical shaking is a bunch of bs

calm pulsar
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even the same switch people can press differently

glacial wind
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like it's so hard to press them exactly the same as a human to tell the difference at those levels

kind helm
quasi hinge
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If you are right

kind helm
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i cant say i love he boards since i never switch tape modded my switches

quasi hinge
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then im in luck

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I can use sneks

glacial wind
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oh my other owlab switches arrived, i have more than 1 single owlabs switch now lol

calm pulsar
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hit the gym

sacred elm
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wtf

quasi hinge
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Shf cant catch a break lol

kind helm
quasi hinge
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camera this, flux that lmao

calm pulsar
glacial wind
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i bought just 1 switch when i was buying some other stuff from swagkeys

sacred elm
kind helm
sacred elm
glacial wind
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they sell switches in individual amounts in korea

calm pulsar
kind helm
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some day i will finish this shit

calm pulsar
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now im on 97%

sacred elm
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not even 98%

calm pulsar
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anyone else has a crush on Hornet?

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what

sacred elm
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lost his mind

kind helm
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in case bro delete his msg

calm pulsar
kind helm
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pepe_cry i wish i took a screenshot of turingtest tongue typing his board

fringe quarry
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in case bro delete his msg

kind helm
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that shit was goated

calm pulsar
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but fr I love the music and the design in this game

kind helm
glacial wind
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you know if you have arm strength issues a fully kitted out fx3 with 24-70 gm ii lens is about 1-1.5kg, would be good arm exercise for you long term @sacred elm

sacred elm
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lol

calm pulsar
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after that you can move to a custom electric guitar, mine is a little more than 3kg @sacred elm

sacred elm
glacial wind
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yeah don't get distracted too early. You want at least 2-3 solid FE sony branded lenses to cover the full zoom range first

crimson sky
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Carrying 8 boards at once makes my arms and back still hurt after 3 days

calm pulsar
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I think he didnt even read it
maybe he already knows way more about lenses than you, sno

glacial wind
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that's true, it's why I keep a hourly watch on the sony stock levels for him to increase his lens options even more

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As of 4pm the 16mm f1.8 is still not in stock @sacred elm

trail bane
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in case bro delete his msg

prime orbit
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in case bro delete his msg

chilly mural
steel ibex
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In case bro deletes his msg

glacial wind
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Hrm I can’t help but notice fartcoin is up 250% this month. This is a sign of a good economy

little glen
chilly mural
glacial wind
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i'm scared to check what the return would have been if you bought into fartcoin in november

ionic breach
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its a blue chip investment

glacial wind
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ah just a mere 2500% return if you invested into fartcoin at launch

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this is clearly a sign of great economic times

ionic breach
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god damn am i tempted

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its so useless lmao but it is cool

prime orbit
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Looks sick

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HE or no?

ionic breach
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hell nah

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he never gets anything nice lmao

glacial wind
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that looks very bigsly themed

quasi hinge
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World is in between box 1 and 2

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Standstill in LA port

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Sorry for econ drop

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Ive never seen anything like it aside from covid

glacial wind
austere creek
glacial wind
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oh geon finally be selling wooting pcbs?

calm pulsar
fallen pecan
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the MX version just got pushed back a month and WOB are already advertising the HE version

glacial wind
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pretty good pricing, saves on the big shipping cost

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just post this screenshot every time people try to start a wooting vs venom debate lol. Geon himself explaining that both have different advantages and disadvantages

ionic breach
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OH SHIT

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the leak was real

austere creek
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the wood was a hairdresser

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yes

glacial wind
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we've never asked calder who his hairdresser is on stream before

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someone add that to the qna list

ionic breach
glacial wind
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i always forget how absurdly bright the stock wooting is

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lol he's shocked that it's already up to date

ionic breach
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dogekek english

austere creek
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time to pray theres no ghost inputs for any reason

glacial wind
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no rattle on his stabs

tawdry tree
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any pics or info on it?

glacial wind
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that's good at least

austere creek
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the english translation just gave up i guess

glacial wind
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oh he's going to test out some of the akko switches

austere creek
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hm yes

ionic breach
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dogekek gateron getting strays

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i love it

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i mean well its true

left depot
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damn my korean vocab has gone to shit SCGbigsad can read chat, dont know what Im reading Clueless

untold wigeon
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does anyone have a video comparing ttc pom vs the regular ttc magnetos?

glacial wind
untold wigeon
glacial wind
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yeah geon will be stocking wooting locally

untold wigeon
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as an vendor?

untold wigeon
glacial wind
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no idea if it'll be on his international store, i'd assume only his korean naver store

untold wigeon
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i might purchase the wooting from geon's web for cheaper shipping

glacial wind
untold wigeon
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it's cheaper from geon rather than wooting from my experience

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wooting can be 30+ usd

untold wigeon
glacial wind
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Geon will be just as much for a keyboard

untold wigeon
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and geon can be $20

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already extra cost

untold wigeon
glacial wind
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Geon ships similar provider to wooting

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He uses dhl or similar

untold wigeon
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rather than wooting i guess

glacial wind
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as soon as it leaves Korea the price climbs especially for keyboard weight items via dhl

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Within Korea it’s dirt cheap though at $2 ship

untold wigeon
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no more extra cost from dhl😋

glacial wind
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leggera is light just fyi

untold wigeon
untold wigeon
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i purchased wooting module shipping 45 usd

glacial wind
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i mean anyhow i severely doubt he's putting them on his global store or has the stock levels for that

untold wigeon
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i'll be happy if geon sells wooting for asia's market😋 (not gonna happen 99%, but hoping it will)

glacial wind
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he only tends to put his own stuff that he has big bulk on his global store

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everything else is local store only

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looks like he's impressed with the light bar features lol

left depot
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is he looking for the RBG settings?

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ah he found it

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:D

glacial wind
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i don't think he realizes his keyboard isn't connected since he turned the gamepad feature on and off

left depot
glacial wind
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needs to reconnect it lol

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oh he confirmed, it'll be korea only

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not global store item

untold wigeon
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okay then

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wooting's web it is

glacial wind
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he gives wooting and valorant a lot of credit for growing the keyboard space again he says

peak jungle
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wooting web has stopped working for me once i installed the app

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and it puts me off

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web is so much stable that the app

austere creek
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there nothing stopping you from using both at the same time

peak jungle
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web

glossy pagoda
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Who wants to give me a recap of GEON's presentation? Been in meetings and haven't been able to watch 😅

austere creek
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might be the identifier changed cause of gamepad changes or some other (prob os related) change

glacial wind
wispy fable
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i'll wait for wooting 60he v2 x geonworksSwitchyDrool

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let's just imagine that happens

left depot
wispy fable
tawdry tree
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a venom rgb is coming right?

glacial wind
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he was just responding to a guy who keeps asking for venom rgb. Don't think he's ever said he'd make one

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said it'd be cool to have an rgb venom

tawdry tree
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oh

austere creek
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just write venom with sharpie on a wooting pcb

thorn zealot
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That I’m excited to play silksong

halcyon flax
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Anyone use ceramic keycaps on zinc 80he can give me a sound test?

calm pulsar
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(im miserable in trial of fool rn)

untold wigeon
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Meet my new Wooting 60he+

thorn zealot
calm pulsar
thorn zealot
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I see

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I’m almost done everything

little glen
untold wigeon
# little glen Turning it into a fighting game controller?

Kind of! I needed an accessibility controller that'd let me play driving games using my palms. Turns out there aren't any good analog devices like that out there, so modding a Wooting keyboard was the simplest solution I could come up with.

little glen
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Very cool

fleet shoal
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Hi guys, i have the 80he here. i ordered it with the plastic case. it feels really bad. i m interested in the KDBFans GT80. Do anyone of you have this case?

untold wigeon
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Just this + printed plastic parts

tropic urchin
tidal frigate
thorn zealot
fleet shoal
calm pulsar
tropic urchin
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I think mine was like $130 ish with $30 shipping, but 100% worth it to upgrade from plastic @fleet shoal

little glen
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I do that every time i order from kbd to germany

tropic urchin
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I got the silver and it’s perfect

little glen
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Kinda wish i got silver

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I have gray and its great but i think silver would have been better

calm pulsar
thorn zealot
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I don’t use mark of pride (imo it’s a bit overrated

calm pulsar
calm pulsar
thorn zealot
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Nice

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Only thing I’m missing is all bindings in all the pantheons

calm pulsar
thorn zealot
fleet shoal
little glen
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Ye

fleet shoal
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My Tofu ist in dark grey looks really great. will order the gt in the same colour

little glen
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I dont go for the free shipping, i just get random other stuff so paying the shipping fee feels less bad

calm pulsar
thorn zealot
fleet shoal
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How long did you wait for the case? did you order it from kdb directly ?

little glen
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I got the gray one too if you want to take a look

thorn zealot
little glen
calm pulsar
calm pulsar
thorn zealot
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Not individually

fleet shoal
calm pulsar
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maybe I'll do all endings and be done for a while lol

thorn zealot
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U will see why

calm pulsar
little glen
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It‘s really good but i would not recommend it tbh cause its a lot of work and cost

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When you can instead get owlabs ti he and get a sound that is almost as good for half the price

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With maybe even better stability

fleet shoal
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ok. i heard of the owlabs ti he.
will look for it. Thank you.

thorn zealot
calm pulsar
thorn zealot
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It’s when the floor is gone is when I started tweakin

calm pulsar
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☠️

wispy fable
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for a tofu 2.0 or redux?

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wait if it's 155 then it's a 2.0 right?

thorn zealot
fleet shoal
wispy fable
untold wigeon
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so im assuming by changing switches to 3.4mm travel distance you would need to change the stabilizers to a 3.4 mm ?

cyan lark
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4.6mm

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Or add some stem spacers

tawdry tree
untold wigeon
tawdry tree
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You’d place the stem spacers on the stabilizer stems.

cyan lark
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Geonworks makes 0.4mm and 0.5mm. 0.5 is fine, either is probably close enough.

untold wigeon
cyan lark
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And yeah they work fine w/ TTCs

untold wigeon
tawdry tree
untold wigeon
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this is kinda my issue

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the wobbling

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so spacers on the stems (the black part) would fix it?

nimble phoenix
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are the default 80he switches good enough or should i change them?

cyan lark
untold wigeon
tropic urchin
tall hollow
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They aren't exceptional, but they're just fine!

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Like your keyboard will still work as a keyboard with all wooting's advertised functions.

tall hollow
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Out of something like PLA or TPU

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Rather than, ugh, spend money. dogekek

tawdry tree
tall hollow
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I forgot but how thick do these need to be for 3.5-3.6mm switches?

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like 0.4-0.5mm thick?

tawdry tree
tall hollow
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Yeah makes sense

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I'll CAD up a quickie in Onshape and print it out on my X1C later today.

tropic urchin
# nimble phoenix like?

If you want the best cheap switches, owlab TI HE, if you want a less clacky switch probably stick with Lekker v2s, if you don’t care about price and want best stability TTC POMs etc

tall hollow
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and never swapped to long pole stabs

tall hollow
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Aye!

half hill
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No I don’t really understand, if I hold a then and then press d while holding a, what happens? Am I doing something wrong

fallen pecan
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why are you using snap tap in valo

glacial wind
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it cleans up overlapped inputs a tad if you rush inputs a bit at times. You shouldn't be changing how you input your strafes though - there's no need to do that hold a and tap d timing stuff

half hill
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I did I didn’t understand what am I supposed to do in val TvT

glacial wind
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nothing

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that's what you're supposed to do. Don't change how you input your strafe at all

half hill
peak breach
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almost may where the owlabs collab?

glacial wind
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just play like normal, deadzone like normal the same way before you had socd on

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there isn't a crazy change in playstyle you need to do with socd in valorant - it doesn't have that effect on the game

half hill
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I mean yeah true

distant crag
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rapid trigger is more important in valo imo.

half hill
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But what I wanted to know was let’s say I press a then press d snap tap completely cancels a and u move right instead of left, how does rappy snappy work?

half hill
glacial wind
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there's no point having it on

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just use socd

distant crag
half hill
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Thank you for your time guys

quasi hinge
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For anyone interested

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Sneks have looser tolerances ever so slightly

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You can see it comparing vs magneto

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Physically and in key wobble

sacred elm
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flux clears

glacial wind
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do you have it in person now?

quasi hinge
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There is more of a gap

quasi hinge
half hill
tropic urchin
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If snakes have looser tolerances who got scammed sneks or flux

half hill
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I am so retarded ngl

tropic urchin
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Looks like both 🥀

sacred elm
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wobble = bad

quasi hinge
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You can literally see more of a gap

sacred elm
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Bro bought lekker v2s 🥀

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jk

quasi hinge
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I just spent 1.5 hours testing switches

fallen pecan
quasi hinge
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Both on keeb and in hand lol

sacred elm
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(now you should say that we bought geon raptors instead of fluxes)

quasi hinge
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Its OC

peak breach
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if you dont have poms you got scammed

quasi hinge
glacial wind
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can you actually blind feel the difference though?

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because other folks couldn't

tropic urchin
quasi hinge
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I tried on various keys

glacial wind
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honestly I think you've just gone hyper analysing into something that probably no one would be able to tell or know and could easily decide it's the reverse

peak breach
quasi hinge
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And moved my hands on different arrangements

tropic urchin
quasi hinge
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But there is a diff

glacial wind
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well yeah there has to be a difference because the rail is in a different spot

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i wouldn't say that means it's wobbler or not just from that though

tropic urchin
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Flux feel is just so good, it’s a shame they didn’t tighten everything up beforehand

peak breach
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im gonna continue waiting till the new switch hype calms down

quasi hinge
glacial wind
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i think unless we actually have someone measuring stuff there's not much to conclude if it takes 90 mins to analyse differences

distant crag
glacial wind
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because it sounds like it's just feel tested which gains us nothing. It could easily be you feeling the difference because you were told it exists and now you're looking for it specifically

glacial wind
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migss keyboard ranking is as legit as his valorant rank (which was boosted in 5 mans)

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he's just making a tier list because it's easy clicks and money

tropic urchin
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(Shocking)

glacial wind
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none of his reviews use any analytical data of any sort and it's just him playing with it and randomly deciding how he feels based on thin air

fallen pecan
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@quasi hinge just get one of these and you'll be certain

fallen pecan
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1500 usd last i checked

chilly mural
distant crag
glacial wind
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won't be high. Miggs believes in any specs given to him by manus

sacred elm
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™️ 💀 💀 💀

glacial wind
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so all the keyboards ranking at the top will just be whatever looks nice and claims the best specs basically

sacred elm
quasi hinge
tawdry tree
chilly mural
fallen pecan
glacial wind
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i think it'd be funnier to do a parady video of his keyboard ranking

quasi hinge
hasty trellis
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Me still waiting for this

quasi hinge
tidal frigate
glacial wind
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"this is the top 10 keyboards of 2025 (so far)" - then you show the keyboards you were sent for free in the order you reviewed them sorted by how much he made profit for selling each after the review

tawdry tree
# fallen pecan

it’s annoying gauss meters that are just on a PCB are so rare

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saw one on taobao but no way to mount that either

fallen pecan
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the reviewer uses a custom cut acrylic base for switch testing anyway

tawdry tree
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yeah

quasi hinge
tawdry tree
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that’s the thing that makes it annoying

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gauss meters aren’t that expensive

fallen pecan
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i wonder what mioni and eyejoker use for their testing

tawdry tree
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accurate enough ones for switch testing

tawdry tree
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just a board

fallen pecan
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or they plug it into a hm80 and write down the values

tawdry tree
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something like that

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I honestly don’t think gauss meters reflect wobble well

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cause the sensors most use have like a bigger range

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“higher fov” 😭

polar sluice
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  • I’m swapping switches on a wooting 2he - I’ve taken the top plate off the pcb to remove old switches, am I better off putting the top plate back on the pcb to install new ones? Or should I install them straight into the top plate and then connect to pcb?
tawdry tree
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no clue what the word for it is

quasi hinge
tawdry tree
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I wouldn’t recommend taking the 2HE apart to change switches

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the screws can get loose after opening it once

fallen pecan
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good enough for surface level testing, the values don't range too much either way

tawdry tree
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cause they go directly into the plastic (rather than having threaded inserts).

glacial wind
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If switches are setting off a Geiger counter there may be bigger issues

fallen pecan
quasi hinge
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Zero

sacred elm
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no flux bad list

quasi hinge
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Surprisingly marble gives off radiation

fallen pecan
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he doesnt test individual switch releases, only new switches if they're in a new board

safe stag
fallen pecan
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nope

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you just need to know ttc is 9 of the top 10

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kailh gods #10

sacred elm
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lekkerhavo

fallen pecan
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that's v1 i believe

tawdry tree
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how the fuck

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raptor x lekkers

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that low

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brother

sacred elm
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bad magnet

glacial wind
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Yeah likely older magnet tolerances

tawdry tree
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nah

quasi hinge
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Sneks not there I suppose

tawdry tree
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all this shit is sus af

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there is something

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not right

steel ibex
sacred elm
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you expect raptor frankenswitch to be top performer or what

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magnets are from 2020

quasi hinge
safe stag
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did they burned the magnets before testing lekker

glacial wind
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The frankenswitch isn’t even box stem either

sacred elm
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ofc it will be below every switch

kind helm
glacial wind
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Of course non box stem will suffer in this specific testing

tawdry tree
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black knights too

jade storm
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that's pretty fucking dope

tawdry tree
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nah

tawdry tree
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I’m think

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because the magnet is closer to the sensor

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it isn’t linear

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so the closer the magnet is the more it ranges

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probably because those are full travel switches, their numbers are exaggerated

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has to be

fallen pecan
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here's the data if you wanna dig

glacial wind
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Full travel has always had slightly higher flux just due to more movement with a longer stem

tawdry tree
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cause there is no world in which stem swapped raptors score lower than KS-20Us

fallen pecan
tawdry tree
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he tests 5 different switches?

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of each type

fallen pecan
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5 random ones

kind helm
fallen pecan
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might get to see it if a retail board releases with teehees stock

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raws no chance

kind helm
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not sure how likely that is since owlab is more keyboard enjoyer thing rather than prebuilt gamer thing

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those companies probably have deals with ttc at this point since their switches show good results

fallen pecan
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i read somewhere that a board is planning on releasing with teehees stock

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but i could be wrong

kind helm
half hill
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Ok so basically snap tap is exactly like socd where when u press d and move right and then press a while holding d it moves left
@tawdry tree Wdym by it takes more skill dawg😭

tawdry tree
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Rappy Snappy

sacred elm
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please

tawdry tree
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takes more skill

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thought u were asking about that cause socd and snappy tappy is the same

half hill
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I’m sorry

sacred elm
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socd (snappy tappy) is wootings implementation

marsh saffron
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Rappy snappy = depth based socd, snappy tappy is last input priority socd

half hill
half hill
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Oh oh

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I’m sorry TvT

fallen pecan
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snap tap = vanilla, rappy snappy = chocolate

half hill
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I like vanilla

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Tastes better

half hill
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Got it

tawdry tree
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Measuring it with a keyboard is probably more accurate because HE boards linearize it

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(not sure how accurate that is but there are quite a few boards that score high on the [repeatable] accuracy)

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Gauss meters don’t linearize

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🤯🤯🤯

polar sluice
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Anyone know if this Is this the right orientation for Owlab Ti He’s? I’ve put them in the same way the Lekkers were in, but someone’s video has them the other way around 😭
thank u

sacred elm
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correct

chilly mural
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yesh

tawdry tree
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The light diffuser above the LED 👍

polar sluice
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Ok thanks guys SwitchySweat

sacred elm
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from lekker v1 to owlabs😳

kind helm
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did bro become a tech channel?!

sacred elm
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thats gonna be some nice upgrade

marsh saffron
tawdry tree
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rappy snappy takes a lot of skill to reach half of what snappy tappy can do

polar sluice
sacred elm
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opening it wasnt even necessary

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you could just pull switches without disassembly

polar sluice
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I broke a bunch of the tabs on the lekkers using some shit tool, will that have killed the switch in terms of usability without rattle?

kind helm
snow yarrow
distant crag
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also the neo65 he

cyan lark
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Whoa this is my first time seeing the GT60 case. That thing fell right outta the ugly tree and hit every branch on the way down.

empty orbit
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with wooting 60he to be risk free should i lube just the plastic tips of the switches, scared to do anything fuether im not exactly a keyboard master

glacial wind
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You honestly don’t need to lube anything if you’re worried

empty orbit
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well it sounds rattly now after year of use

polar girder
glacial wind
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I’d personally just use opportunity to buy newer, better switches with a good factory lube job

sacred elm
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lekkers are definition of rattle

empty orbit
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alright thanks ill look into it

sacred elm
#

would recommend owlab ti hes

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they cost 35$ for 70pc

cyan lark
#

Oh shit speaking of Owlab Tis, looks like mine just got delivered - a day ahead of schedule!

BY THE USPS 🫡 🇺🇸 💪 @tropic urchin

sacred elm
#

usps blows sorry

cyan lark
#

Mods ^

sacred elm
glossy pagoda
#

I've never heard of a parcel carrier that doesn't suck

sacred elm
#

^

tropic urchin
polar sluice
#

these are crazy

tropic urchin
glossy pagoda
#

My local DHL guy and I are buddies

cyan lark
tropic urchin
glossy pagoda
#

I've got the perfect meme for this

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digs through the archives

tropic urchin
cyan lark
#

Always good to make friends w/ your couriers

tropic urchin
#

DHL is honestly amazing

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Even funnier since they’re a German company

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Better than the locals

glossy pagoda
storm axle
#

we ball

stray tiger
# glossy pagoda

We have the best beautiful cheek implants in the world. So great. You've never seen anything like it.

tawdry tree
storm axle
#

what are the current available alternative cases for the 80he just the gt-80 and bone80?

tawdry tree
#

china only has more

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options

storm axle
#

what do i search?

tidal frigate
#

There will be holy80

tawdry tree
tawdry tree
tidal frigate
tawdry tree
#

but if you can’t order from there

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why bother

tawdry tree
glossy pagoda
#

That black and pink one is niiice

tawdry tree
#

ye I like it too

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just the light bar that is odd

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well, non existent really

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I think it’s a detachable thingy tho

snow yarrow
#

Ok, i just checked and can confirm that @quasi hinge is not tripping

Theres a quite noticable amount of more wobble on the white sneks, top and bottom. You can actually hear a little rattle when moving the sneks around, which is not present on wooting poms

#

NEW SWITCH OF THE WEEK DROPPED BOYS

SNEK STEM + REST OF WOOTING POMS feelsgood

little glen
#

still better than flux

sacred elm
snow yarrow
glacial wind
#

yeah then that's normal so far

#

wooting poms rattle without lube too

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all the ttc switches have a decent amount of rattle without hand lube since there's no factory lube

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i have some samples of ttc pom hand lubed vs ttc rgb non lubed before and the difference in rattle is quite big

snow yarrow
snow yarrow
sacred elm
#

oh no

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what have you done sno

glacial wind
#

At least buy the upcoming lumix cinema cam if you aren’t going to buy a Sony

storm axle
#

whats the difference between the poms and the owlabs or is it just preference?

glacial wind
#

You need some standards shafie

glacial wind
#

Poms are box stems

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Owlabs are more like traditional style switches with regular stem

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But either way still preference at end of the day

tropic urchin
sacred elm
#

^

tropic urchin
#

Imagine not combining lekker switches with your Wooting

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Disgusting

sacred elm
#

not very tasty imo

glossy pagoda
#

Lekker also means sexy 😉

sacred elm
#

🥀

jade narwhal
#

curious about gateron's pom Sakura switch

stray tiger
glossy pagoda
#

To battle we ride! SwitchyKnife

stray tiger
#

On the NK twitch stream Mike just said they are looking at a Sloth r2 or small batch release. So pumped for that

empty orbit
sacred elm
#

with tighter tolerances and cleaner sound

cyan lark
#

And raws have that little bit of sticking at the top

sacred elm
#

Yea

cyan lark
#

As well as their tendency to spontaneously rapidly disassemble themselves

stray tiger
#

What he said. They are significantly improved raw's. Way better sound, way tighter tolerances, way smoother feel.

cyan lark
#

AFAICT not having used them yet the only regression on the owlabs is the color for RGB maxxers

stray tiger
#

Yeah if the TI's has been colorless and full travel, I'd call them my end game switch

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I dont use end game loosely since its mainly a myth

cyan lark
#

Making me wanna go grab the mail now. I guess I will 🏃💨

sacred elm
#

😳

stray tiger
glossy pagoda
#

We call that turbo mode

kind helm
#

price smile

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same switch 2 dolla is dog shit 1 dolla is meh 0.5 cent is amazing

quasi hinge
#

Free but I want it to go to someone who would treasure them and is in need

crimson sky
#

is it just housing wobble?

kind helm
#

i would want to try them on my tofu 2.0 hehe

crimson sky
#

man the switch companies are just milking the HE people

quasi hinge
crimson sky
#

meanwhile I just buy the god knows how manyth retool of the same switch from 1982

quasi hinge
#

Since I have magnetos they are a downgrade

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But only so slightly

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Plus they have great magenets

glacial wind
#

keep in mind he realized his snakes weren't lubed after

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so can pretty much cancel out that whole thing

quasi hinge
#

Huh?

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Both are lubed

glacial wind
#

i mean the guy you're replying to lol

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his snakes weren't lubed, his poms were

quasi hinge
glacial wind
glacial wind
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not you

quasi hinge
stray tiger
cyan lark
#

Classic milktooth packaging

quasi hinge
kind helm
polar girder
#

What are you giving away? lol

crimson sky
cyan lark
kind helm
quasi hinge
#

But likely cant send to us looool

cyan lark
#

Yeah dude downright studly fingies

snow yarrow
kind helm
quasi hinge
#

Exactly what you described

cyan lark
#

Alright, I think I'll do this. Thinking about switching back to my GMK Metropolis caps while I'm at it

quasi hinge
#

Ever so slightly enough for constant notice

sacred elm
#

😭

glacial wind
#

you have 2 very different things though

snow yarrow
#

But why not atleast put the snek stem in your poms? @quasi hinge

glacial wind
#

he's talking about the sound rattle

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you're talking about physical movement

quasi hinge
snow yarrow
quasi hinge
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100%

snow yarrow
#

Did you get the ogs?

quasi hinge
#

Yup

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A167890

sacred elm
#

dont worry dtmpd, soon you will receive fluxes

snow yarrow
#

You didnt get the cute box either, im a little disappointed now 😭

Where is my cute snek box ttc

quasi hinge
glacial wind
kind helm
quasi hinge
#

I got hit with sneks lol

glacial wind
#

I’m still pretty sure if you did a random jumble with keycap on and wiggled the keys without sound testing you couldn’t guess which was snake vs pom

quasi hinge
#

My mistake was assuming sneks would be same

kind helm
#

whats the expression, never be the first guy to eat the crab or something?

quasi hinge
#

Hard lesson

quasi hinge
#

“Fool me once uhhhh you’re never gonna fool me again”

quasi hinge
quasi hinge
#

They are smoother

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Likely because box stem size was reduced dogekek

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Ever so slightly

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And they sound more like fluxs

snow yarrow
#

Dont panic yet guys

I will be checking this mans claims with my highly accurate digital caliper, which i definitely did not get from aliexpress

kind helm
quasi hinge
kind helm
#

but better than just hand for sure

polar girder
#

You prefer the POM or why get rid of snek?

quasi hinge
quasi hinge
kind helm
#

it is kinda amazing, i did not expect it would cause problem globally

quasi hinge
#

Im not going to be flipping switches lol

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I find what I like and stick to it

kind helm
#

but i guess we us people be buying shit too much

quasi hinge
#

If Flux 2.0 comes out and is better im in

kind helm
#

HmmYes flux 2.0 double the price of flux 4 dolla per switch

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then 100%+ with tariff

#

8 dolla switch!

quasi hinge
#

Thankfully I dont feel the tariffs yet

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And im not in the us

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I should be sleeping 💀

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GG

kind helm
#

Balder sleep is for the weak

#

said the bald guy

quasi hinge
snow yarrow
#

According to my highly accurate measuring instrument, the snek stem has the same dimensions as the wooting poms, or the difference is sub 0.1mm

quasi hinge
#

Maybe its the housing

snow yarrow
#

Which doesnt mean much to you @quasi hinge, since you have og poms smile

tropic urchin
kind helm
#

isnt og pom the same as wooting pom with only color difference

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even the lube is the same

quasi hinge
#

I have both, me and my “quant” feel it

snow yarrow
quasi hinge
tropic urchin
kind helm
quasi hinge
tropic urchin
#

I didnt read that far up

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aint got time for dat

snow yarrow
austere creek
quasi hinge
quasi hinge
#

Only snek stems in og

austere creek
#

the knife tips are for hole/slot distances

kind helm
#

wait i thought the tool was for testing wobble not measuring size duh

quasi hinge
#

Someone is gna need to do a PhD in measuring wobble, flux, variance whatever lol

polar girder
kind helm
#

i saw a vid on bilibili about someone using some cheap tool to test wobble, but i dont remember what exactly he was using, but basically he has a tool with a pole that can be set to a precise length. and the press with the pole checks if the precision is good

polar girder
#

I thought Snek was upgrade?

quasi hinge
quasi hinge
#

I wanted it for looks as silver cf looks like snake skin and wanted to get rid of the red dots

analog ginkgo
#

how do i get the ihaswooting role

quasi hinge
kind helm
analog ginkgo
#

ah ty

kind helm
#

there is a vid by wooting on youtube about that i think

kind helm
#

aliens are snakes

polar girder
cyan lark
#

New old look. These Ti's seem great, y'all weren't wrong. Very stable, sound very nice. Not quite as stable as KoMs it seems, but extremely close to the point of pedanticism.

quasi hinge
kind helm
snow yarrow
#

So, snek stem in woot pom housing feels same stability wise @quasi hinge, atleast i cant feel a difference

kind helm
#

i can respect the mix and match, imagine if you have this though

#

smile but surly wooting will update at some point

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at some point

quasi hinge
#

Wanted best of both worlds

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Should have tried magneto in snek

snow yarrow
quasi hinge
kind helm
#

👀 btw are those caps that you tongue type with?

cyan lark
quasi hinge
#

Wait

#

Dont tell me lol

quasi hinge
#

I cant read this before sleep

kind helm
#

smile dont worry about it

quasi hinge
#

Hahahaha

kind helm
#

i think everyone in the chat at the time was too shock to capture the moment

cyan lark
#

OG POMs are the most beautiful

sacred elm
#

fluxes clear

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milky switches on top

#

like raws and fluxes

quasi hinge
sacred elm
#

nah im chilling

kind helm
sacred elm
#

coffee good too

kind helm
#

too bad i am sticking with black plates

sacred elm
#

i just dont like that weird pom colorway

quasi hinge
sacred elm
#

dont fw magneto

kind helm
cyan lark
sacred elm
kind helm
#

spring wise idk i dont even remember which is which for the two kinds of pom

quasi hinge
kind helm
cyan lark
#

A full basket of snakes, or just a handful?

quasi hinge
#

Long story short is that they feel more wobbly

cyan lark
#

Oh jeez

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That's criminal, I'm sorry

quasi hinge
#

But im causing anarchy but stating this

#

People protest without having the same switches

snow yarrow
# quasi hinge Would they fit?

Couldn't tell you about the spring, but the rest would fit

I'll compare the lubed sneks with wooting later, i cba lubing rn dogekek

cyan lark
glacial wind
#

What does @snow yarrow think though. Because so far he hasn’t mentioned the wobble stuff

#

as far as the wobble goes can you notice a difference? Ignoring the non lubed sound

quasi hinge
#

Magnetos and wooting poms are the same?

#

Dimension/per wise?

glacial wind
#

Yeah they’re the exact same mold

#

For the pom versions anyway

#

And rgb for that matter

cyan lark
#

Actually I take it back, there's definitely noticeable wobble on the Ti's on bottom out, but for the price it's extremely good, and beats everything I've tried except KoMs (haven't tried fluxes)

quasi hinge
cyan lark
#

Noticeable* if I'm looking at it/testing it, don't feel it wobbling around while typing or anything

cyan lark
cyan lark
#

Ah right saw folks talking about flux's flux

#

That's a shame about the legs

quasi hinge
kind helm
#

i remember physical wobble wise it aint great either

cyan lark
#

And tolerances, kinda wild at that price point to have these kinds of problems

snow yarrow
kind helm
#

the price probably comes from the fancy design rather that itself actually being worth 2 dolla

#

the way i see it :3

cyan lark
#

Sure but I thought the whole point of the fancy design was to improve stability

sacred elm
glacial wind
#

Yeah that’s the thing. I’m fairly sure they’re the same wobble because no one else has mentioned a wobble difference except asdasmos and he only noticed it after inspecting for 90 mins after his luber told him it might be different

snow yarrow
#

But hearing the rattle sound definitely made it feel worse to me lmao, was a good idea to try to ignore the sound

glacial wind
#

and all the Chinese reviews didn’t notice any wobble difference either comparing them next to poms and rgb

quasi hinge
kind helm
sacred elm
quasi hinge
#

I wish I could send you 3 of each

analog ginkgo
#

how do i contact support

snow yarrow
quasi hinge
#

I can try full sneks but I did half and could feel it

tawdry tree
glacial wind
#

Like I tried to watch the video you sent too, but several watches and I see no difference between them either

cyan lark
analog ginkgo
cyan lark
#

Try it!

analog ginkgo
# cyan lark Try it!

I was seeing, if it was like the kbd discord where you can msg them on discord tbf

kind helm
quasi hinge
#

Placebo

kind helm
quasi hinge
#

But switch after switch

#

Half the board

sacred elm
glacial wind
#

Like the easiest way is to just do a blind test. Mix up poms and snakes and randomly put them into the board with keycap on

quasi hinge
#

Its enough to notice for me

cyan lark
glacial wind
#

Then try to guess which is which without the sound

glacial wind
#

If you can guess 10/10 or close then maybe you really can notice some difference

#

Have someone else put them in if you need to really randomize it

#

Then there’s no placebo or confirmation bias telling you that one switch is wobbler

#

and if you can still feel the difference and guess right then you know there’s really a difference

quasi hinge
kind helm
cyan lark
#

Ti's got me all fired up

quasi hinge
kind helm
#

every time i swap board i get fired up hehe

cyan lark
#

Celine Dion got me even more fired up

kind helm
#

new experience within my reach SwitchyLaser

cyan lark
#

I've noticed the same, whenever I switch (ha) it up, I tend to have a burst of really high typing speeds. I dunno, maybe it's the change that makes you think more carefully about how you're typing.

kind helm
#

i feel like i just get excited hearing something different than the board i am used to

cyan lark
#

Wait I was just given some power...

kind helm
plush ermine
#

would it be possible to spot correct a piece of my tofu60 redux case? it chipped slightly

snow yarrow
#

Ive been thinking, could the difference i felt also be due to the heavier spring keeping the stems slightly more stable or am i completely off the deep end now dogekek @glacial wind

glacial wind
#

I mean that’s possible too, heavier springs do push back more firmly and we’re talking such tiny amounts of movement and force

kind helm
#

i think that makes sense too, that was why i tried and switched to 50g for all my boards. feel a tiny bit smoother and adjusted to heavier spring pretty easily.

#

(but the difference is so smo can just be cope)

sacred elm
#

50g best

knotty iron
#

got my Tofu60 black ano and acryllic

#

and some other stuff ffrom KBDfans

kind helm
snow yarrow
#

If theres one conclusion to be made today, its that unlubed box stem rattle is absolutely no joke

sacred elm
polar girder
snow yarrow
polar girder
#

Hella wet yo

cyan lark
#

Moist taps

cyan lark
#

These Tis sound so good! Goddamn!

trail bane
#

Officially, I’ve now convinced 4 people to make a custom magnetic build with POMs.

polar girder
#

Pom and what?

#

I love franken

#

I’m aroused

cyan lark
#

Don't need a wrist rest

trail bane
polar girder
#

Oh gotcha

#

Nice

#

KOM POM Prophet

trail bane
# polar girder Nice

For me, that’s also a significant advantage, since I’ll be able to try out some of them in real life.

trail bane
polar girder
#

So by KOM POM collector you mean convert 70 friends to POM and steal one switch from each one until your build is complete?

trail bane
polar girder
#

lol nice

fringe quarry
#

how did they bend the screwdriver

cyan lark
#

By not skipping arms day

fringe quarry
#

strong workers

calm pulsar
fringe quarry
#

damn

#

time to return the case

#

unacceptable

trail bane
fringe quarry
#

i think i somehow didnt have to pay customs or vat on the case tho

glass comet
#

anyone try the gateron green dragon he switches yet

kind helm
#

just got my qd oled

#

my eyes burning from the color

fringe quarry
marsh saffron
#

My cars back under its own power SwitchyPog

#

Still need to do rear brakes and an alignment

#

But it moves again

tropic urchin
#

just a recolor

trail bane
calm pulsar
marsh saffron
#

Lemme just fly him out to Canada rq

tawdry tree
tawdry tree
marsh saffron
#

Its been so long since I've driven stick i can't wait for this thing to be back on the road

cyan lark
#

I'd kill to drive stick again

#

You're lucky

marsh saffron
#

It may be a slow ass 20 year old corolla by my god is it fun

sweet oak
#

hey if it works and is healthy thats whats important

marsh saffron
#

And it's gonna stay that way

sweet oak
marsh saffron
#

We already put more money than the cars worth back into it

kind helm
#

question for yall, so situation, 2 monitors broke, msi replaced a much better monitor to me now for my primary. i am kinda feeling lazy to send the second one out for replacement

#

the one that is broken now i turned down to 120hz no more flickering

#

i am considering whether i should send this thing back or nah