🔧│keyboard_modding

[tawdry tree]

i feel like there’s no communication at all between hm and sikakeyb. first they released a HM80 case with a dongle slot (it wasn’t ever gonna be wireless) and then they release a metal version when the board no longer receives updates and a new product is already announced.

doesn’t make any sense

[kind helm]

i spent hella on profile hehe

[tawdry tree]

yeah in their disc

[tidal frigate]

Whats new product?

[calm pulsar]

I got me the Ranni loading screen

[chilly mural]

Wooting would never!!!

[tawdry tree]

hm’s z platform isn’t compatible with older products so HM66 and 80

[tawdry tree]

hm75z

replaces the hm80

[calm pulsar]

pretty sure it is, but I got one that was sold on local amazon so all good

[kind helm]

[fallen pecan]

don't worry they don't want the pro players to riot

[calm pulsar]

god be with you Henry

[untold wigeon]

When was this announced

[tawdry tree]

check their server

carol said so

[untold wigeon]

Don’t see it can you forward it

[tawdry tree]

tagged

[untold wigeon]

That web software

[tawdry tree]

2.6 is final

for HM66 and HM80

[untold wigeon]

Let’s see how long HM Z

[calm pulsar]

ggs you won't be able to press buttons after that

[untold wigeon]

Will arbiter control z platform

Since they selling

[tawdry tree]

that’s something apple would do

[tawdry tree]

don’t think so

[untold wigeon]

Yeah hoping they don’t touch it

[calm pulsar]

they took mini iphones from me
stuck on 12 mini

[untold wigeon]

It’s gonna brick the second they lay hands on it

[tawdry tree]

about to say that lol

[untold wigeon]

Lemme ask carol if they gonna abandon it

So then if they do

[tawdry tree]

rip all small phones

[untold wigeon]

Ima just sell mines

[tawdry tree]

it’s not like it stops working bro

[glacial wind]

I never understood big phones until I lived in Korea

Then I realized everyone just watches and reads stuff on phone in the subway

[untold wigeon]

It’s if issues start occurring updates won’t be there to fix them

[chilly mural]

if it's big enough to read my webcomic it's good enough! Unfortunately small phone makes the text small

[tawdry tree]

2.6 is stable afaik

didn’t come across issues yet

[untold wigeon]

I’m still confused as it said “web based”

They’re not doing that

Or is there software

[tawdry tree]

web is only for z

not for hm66 or 80

[untold wigeon]

Ye Jordan

[calm pulsar]

I might switch to a normal size I guess, but I almost never consume content on phone which is why I chose mini when it was possible

[untold wigeon]

The biggest hemu shiller there is

Said hm66 is not abandoned

[untold wigeon]

Aligner needs to buy me the M6 ultra+

I’ll give you the atk master pcb

[tawdry tree]

get me the rakka altus v2 and we have a deal

🥰

[untold wigeon]

What pcb

Is that the new one coming out

[tawdry tree]

yep

[untold wigeon]

I know of the tkl and regular 60

[untold wigeon]

How much is the cost

[tawdry tree]

unknown

[untold wigeon]

If it’s 70 deal

[tawdry tree]

rakka v2 lumen 60, lumen 64 and altus

[tawdry tree]

it’s rakka, so prob 150 💀

[untold wigeon]

Gg

[untold wigeon]

The m6ultra+ is 250

[fallen pecan]

rakka or 70 pick one

[untold wigeon]

I’m saying if they pcb costs 70

[snow yarrow]

And hes saying theres no way it will be 70

[tawdry tree]

I hope everything goes well with the altus r&d

they’re trying to support 64 as well

at the same time

litrally every 60% layout on one pcb

[untold wigeon]

That would call for disaster

Just sell 2 products

[tawdry tree]

H60 and H64 already came pretty far

it’s very possible for sure

[untold wigeon]

It’s still 2 products

[tawdry tree]

both with layout support

split space, split backspace, split shift

stepped caps

[untold wigeon]

Oh thay

That

[tawdry tree]

Altus will allow 7U bottom row

[untold wigeon]

Based

[tawdry tree]

iso ansi too

kinda crazy

[untold wigeon]

But split backspace

Idk

Man

[tawdry tree]

if everything goes well

[tawdry tree]

goat

backspace on space

the split space space

[untold wigeon]

Branding is everything

[stray tiger]

You're a split space bar enjoyer?

[untold wigeon]

Just shove up an influencers name u get infinite money

[tawdry tree]

Have been for quite sometime. The only reason why I got the HM66 😂

[untold wigeon]

Is the hm66 good latency wise

Saw it have 1ms

[tawdry tree]

no

[untold wigeon]

Claimed 8k

Lmao

[tawdry tree]

it just beat the 60HE in terms of latency because it was tested with solenoids

not true PCB latency

[kind helm]

wait why how?

[untold wigeon]

Solenoids can’t really test he

[tawdry tree]

HM66 is accurate but latency is pretty bad

[tawdry tree]

nothing can test HE

[stray tiger]

Ahh gotcha. I respect that. I guess at my age trying to keep my layouts the same across all boards is important. Once I got used to split backspace I'd struggle when I changed boards.

[untold wigeon]

You can test RT distance

[tawdry tree]

extremely difficult to properly test anything HE

[calm pulsar]

good thing I can distinguish between 0.01mm of RT and actuation

[tawdry tree]

Yeah, it can be annoying but I don’t mind it that much. I can swap from split space to non-split space pretty easily still

though I prefer split space way more

[tawdry tree]

[untold wigeon]

Rapid trigger distance for m6

[tawdry tree]

it’s tricky still. the accuracy of many PCBs is affected by how many keys are pressed

so to test properly, you’d need to do that for multiple keys at the same time

latency is even more painful to test properly but same thing applies

[stray tiger]

It's even more than that. It's how many keys, how many are pressed, magnet quality and swith tolerances.

[untold wigeon]

I gotta rewatch

[tawdry tree]

what’s this?

[untold wigeon]

Best keyboard overall point system

[stray tiger]

The best part is how many of these better performing boards have the RGB and the HE sensor on a single IC.

[untold wigeon]

Someone sent the updated version

He’s reliable tester

Laobaozi

[tawdry tree]

Those are extinct afaik. GTech doesn’t make them any longer it seems

[tawdry tree]

not extinct but no longer in production*

[polar girder]

LOL WHAT

Defined how

Nice schizo rating

[untold wigeon]

He didn’t post the Sayo one

[tawdry tree]

it’s the best bro

fp

[calm pulsar]

does it translate to real life usage and customizability though?

[stray tiger]

I was going to say, there are definitely some out there. There is the issue of power and of course software. If someone wants to design a board and disable dead zone and measure a single switch to claim being the best, well that's the dumbest shit I've ever heard.

[tawdry tree]

ye

[untold wigeon]

No because it’s for schizo lab testing

[chilly mural]

split spacebar is nice, but now I'm 2 keyboard pilled

[tawdry tree]

somewhat

[stray tiger]

So that list shows the best keyboard for single switch, dead zone disabled, measurements?

[tawdry tree]

price too I think, otherwise sayo would be up there

and easy of use for software isn’t considered

😃👍

[stray tiger]

Nor privacy and security

[untold wigeon]

Yes

Because people that get these type of boards

[tawdry tree]

latency is all that matters bro

[untold wigeon]

Don’t care for customization and CS that much

[tawdry tree]

🥴

[fallen pecan]

sayo is on there

scored 620

[untold wigeon]

It does bro I need to be able to take my friends wall on 0 ping

In Fortnite

[glacial wind]

It’s funny because they probably get a lot worse performance buying those boards when they realize their key presses are inconsistent if trying to use those settings

[tawdry tree]

0 ping 😭💀

[quasi hinge]

Squad mate gave his wife his old 60HE but painted the OG case pink, apparently she doest care as long as it is pink, prefers it over the red tofu 😭

[stray tiger]

I'd rather have a board with less latency and better calibration any day for any game

[chilly mural]

Im gonna say this again, if you care about latency that much, just live a block away from the game server

[tawdry tree]

I’d rather have a board with more latency and more layout support

🥰

[glacial wind]

Or Asia

[chilly mural]

8khz is all you need, 60hz monitor is all you need

[stray tiger]

Congrats!

[glacial wind]

Everyone in Seoul gets single digit ping to game servers

[untold wigeon]

Realistically nobody is noticing the difference

[tawdry tree]

too much, needs to be sub0 of course

[chilly mural]

yeh! That's why Korean good, they have great environment

[untold wigeon]

Not easy for most people

[glacial wind]

They’ll notice when their keypress isn’t consistent. That’s the irony of these charts

[untold wigeon]

Although Dallas is the best place to move if you want to be pro gamer

[stray tiger]

I'm going to reach out to Wooting leadership and demand they make a board with split spacebar support just for you. Then you'll be forced to only use a Wooting board.

[chilly mural]

yeah... so does buying keyboard every month

[untold wigeon]

This is multi key tests

Man

[tawdry tree]

[untold wigeon]

Nobody is suggesting to buy a keyboard every month

[glacial wind]

It’s not a chart for consistency of performance or usage. So even the people performance chasing are theoretically getting worse performance overall

[tawdry tree]

I already sent simon an essay

[untold wigeon]

Just buy one and if it makes you happy then good for you

[tawdry tree]

on simultaneous multi-layout support

[stray tiger]

Wrong person. Should have sent it to Erik!

[quasi hinge]

Not bad for less than 3$

[polar girder]

0 ping plebs wouldn’t understand bro

Don’t waste your breath

[tawdry tree]

it was the topic during stream. hopefully he told erik if erik is the right person tho haha

[stray tiger]

@polar girder monitor arrived yesterday but I went fishing all day and didn't hook it up yet. Plan to today

[polar girder]

HE is constantly evolving and to stay at the top you need to spend $100 a month minimum

[untold wigeon]

It’s not evolving for much longer tbh

Cause now all the good stuff released

And we are back to oem garbage

[polar girder]

Nice. Yeha I need to buy a vanilla Skele so lmk LOL

[stray tiger]

SMH my head

[polar girder]

Press 1 for doubt

[tawdry tree]

good stuff are features and we’re at the foot of the mountain when it comes to that

[polar girder]

Almost diminishing returns. Not quite

That’s like saying 360hz monitors are peak

Don’t get caught being obsolete bro

[untold wigeon]

Might as well add cheats to keyboards like blood mouse

[glacial wind]

The funniest parts of these charts is you could literally have a board that has god awful auto calibration, would make you mistime strafes half the time, but because it did well in raw spec key presses result it’s at the top

[untold wigeon]

HM z platform has great calib like venom

Does Wooting have calibration

[polar girder]

Yeah I’m good on a random graph in a language I can’t understand that ranks PCB “best” on conditions that aren’t defined

[stray tiger]

That's not the funniest part about these charts. The funniest part is how much money do they make for suggesting the top boards on the list?

[polar girder]

LOL

[glacial wind]

I’m not sure what your statement has anything to do with what was mentioned

[chilly mural]

End game always being released every other month, can't wait for m6 ultra pro max +

[tawdry tree]

the conditions are defined fp “best” is the condition.

[stray tiger]

Lol

[glacial wind]

That’s true. If you took the money angle away you’d find it hilarious how many of these channels disappear and stop recommending half the stuff

[polar girder]

Yo did you ever scoop a 5080 FE?

[stray tiger]

It's like when people call me a Wooting shill, yet I've bought and own/owned HE boards from 6 different vendors with my own money and still use HE boards from multiple vendors.

[chilly mural]

Just go for wooting for easy to choose and safe to recommend, venom at $150 range then something else at $100 below.

[untold wigeon]

Probably next year

[stray tiger]

Not a FE but I do have a 5080 in the machine now and one ready for pickup at BestBuy

[glacial wind]

I’d wager that maybe 50%-80% of tech review channels are literally just affiliate marketers pumping up their commissions lol

[stray tiger]

It's probably higher than that

[polar girder]

Gotcha. Yeah I kind of want an FE

For msrp

[stray tiger]

Did you sign up for Nvidia priority access?

[polar girder]

Can’t.

[stray tiger]

Damn

[polar girder]

Just created an account last night lol

[stray tiger]

Well I did and it hasn't helped so probably doesn't matter. @harsh dove daily ping to check your email for Nvidia access

I need a better android keyboard. The autocorrect on the stock one is hot garbage

[chilly mural]

iirc there's an OSS keyboard that uses local AI for suggestion

[stray tiger]

I've been using the Samsung one since forever and I feel like it's become dumber. Maybe time to switch to Google G board or whatever they call it

It's also possible my mobile typing skills have become worse as well

[steel ibex]

This is why optimum is my goat

[chilly mural]

optimum the reason I got wooting and glasspad

[stray tiger]

Day 3 and my reddit account is still suspended...

Some people saying the appeal process can take months ugh

Ok mouse pad people. If I current use a Zowie GS-R II. What's an upgraded option with the a better base side that doesn't slide as much but with similar speed/control

[kind helm]

👀 what what about just cleaning the bottom side?

[stray tiger]

It's clean, just doesn't grip well on a smooth surface

[kind helm]

i am using a artisan pad which is supposed to be the end game fancy stuff, but that still can slide for me if i stack it on top of another deskmat

[stray tiger]

Ive had other mats with that rubber base and those dont slide. The Zowie is a smooth base, not texture and slides easily

[kind helm]

not by a lot but just you know making the mat a tiny bit tilted

@sacred elm @tropic urchin the mouse nerds

[stray tiger]

Has anyone in the US received their DailyClack orders yet?

[chilly mural]

sad about the tariff

[kind helm]

supposed to arrive tomorrow hopefully everythings gud

[polar girder]

The LGG Pro base is pretty GRIPPY

Just how I like it

[tropic urchin]

I’d have to double check but I have a weird feeling the GSR is equivalent to artisan zero

[kind helm]

that would be my guess as well, zero soft or xsoft

but me no know what me sayin

[tropic urchin]

@stray tiger here’s also a decent guide thru artisan’s current products that I’d give a look too

You’ll probably wanna hit something soft has a grippier base than their mid versions

[kind helm]

does all artisan pad has the same bottom texture or they different bottom too?

[tropic urchin]

Bottom as in what sticks to your surface?

[kind helm]

i do think my zero xsoft is more grippy than raiden mid

[kind helm]

ye

[tropic urchin]

Yeah so iirc it’s all Japanese poron material, but the mid has less grip than soft and XS

[stray tiger]

Thanks this is great.

[kind helm]

i like to have a tiny bit of my mousepad hang off my desk and that was fine with zero xsoft, but on raiden mid it would slide

[stray tiger]

Talk to me about LGG. Which Pro do you have? Saturn?

[tropic urchin]

As a CS main you might be looking at exclusively type99/zero soft

[kind helm]

me playing val and static tasks on raiden mid

[tropic urchin]

I’ve found for mouse pads you gotta try a few before you find the golden goose sorta speak

[kind helm]

but i cant go like 40cm/360 like i used to on zero, way too fast on raiden

[tropic urchin]

Yeah I’ve really fallen for Raiden + slow skates

I started with an otsu and I really don’t fw the texture

[kind helm]

have you heard of corepad?

just curious

[tropic urchin]

For mouse skates yeah

I haven’t personally tried

[marsh saffron]

My zero xsoft basically glues itself to my desk

Its sometimes annoying when I just wanna move it a tiny bit

[marsh saffron]

I need a Raiden mid with jade skates

Need something fast asf that's a bit slower than glass for when my aims bad

[tropic urchin]

So about that my dear friend

dont

[marsh saffron]

Why not

[kind helm]

https://jpgamingusa.com/ official retailer for artisan in us btw sir :3

[tropic urchin]

I tried it, and you will have negative recoil control

It doesn’t pair well

[marsh saffron]

Good

[kind helm]

still expensive but at least hopefully wont get a fake one

[tropic urchin]

I’ve tried it and Shafie has too

It’s not good

[marsh saffron]

Probably still slower than my glass pad with beastx skates

[tropic urchin]

If you wanna go for fast on mid, I’d try Tiger ice

Jades on Raiden are uncontrollable imo

[kind helm]

skill issue or wat?

[marsh saffron]

Raiden mid w jades can't be faster than glass pad w speed skates

[tropic urchin]

Fast on fast is the equivalent of slipping on ice and never regaining balance

Try it

[marsh saffron]

I've been using glass for nearly 2 years now

Surely Raiden mid w jades will be fine

[tropic urchin]

@sacred elm talk em off this ledge

[kind helm]

are the jades you talkin bout the X-Raypad Jade Dot?

[marsh saffron]

Yes

[tropic urchin]

Full skates are what I used

[kind helm]

i am using that on raiden mid rn

:3

[marsh saffron]

Do you have glass pad to compare

[kind helm]

nah i dont wanna do glass pad

[marsh saffron]

Wanna know how differemt the speed is

[marsh saffron]

You seem to not realize I want nothing but speed

[kind helm]

i did raiden because i saw mattyow uses raiden mid on static as well. and with val i started to feel like val is more dynamic clicking and tracking than static in game. so wanted to try a faster pad that works better for tracking and dynamic

[tropic urchin]

I suppose it’s worth the try if you’re fiending for it

[marsh saffron]

Matty also has 3 different Raidens he uses because they all are at different wear levels

[kind helm]

thats true

[tropic urchin]

The only skates that work for me on Raiden are now obsidian skates

[marsh saffron]

Id get obsidian for glass pad maybe

But i want jades w raiden

[stray tiger]

Looks like the next GSR will have a sticky base

Which also means I wasnt the only one having an issue

Oh its already out... https://www.amazon.com/BenQ-G-SR-III-Controlling-high-Density/dp/B0DMTQ9922?sr=8-9&language=en_US&ref_=as_li_ss_tl

[kind helm]

it works fine for me, and with only 5 dots i assume what i am using is already on the faster side

but my skill level not really high so idk :3

just got this recently

[polar girder]

Nice

Bro been grinding

I gotta get on that

Had Venus regular and Saturn Pro

[untold wigeon]

isn this fortnite\

[polar girder]

Both XXL

[kind helm]

i think from iron to gold took me like a week, then it started taking longer

[polar girder]

Yeah

[polar girder]

Voltaic

[marsh saffron]

I gotta get back to aim training

Got my first jade score 2 weeks ago since my wrist injury and I got giga washed

Used to be jade w master tracking

Now I'm less than jade 😭

[kind helm]

i stopped a while after plat complete then i changed my setup a bit just getting back to it recently

[polar girder]

F-tip diff

[night atlas]

@tropic urchin https://jpgamingusa.com/collections/artisan-mousepads?srsltid=AfmBOor44sSHmhaGdyHVtdEPJZKyKlGovKTzENZX54rx3zK5MkfRJT_S is this the correct site for artisan pads?

[tropic urchin]

That’s their US etailer I believe

[polar girder]

Really?

[tropic urchin]

That sites good

Their Japan site is sketch

Very 2005

[polar girder]

Yeah

Only one I’ve ever gone to lol

[gusty patio]

They got a whole bunch of resellers now yea, saw they had a new hayate otsu v2 this morning

[tropic urchin]

Yeah I got my raiden mid from jpgaming @night atlas

[gusty patio]

So the resellers prob wont have the newest stuff but there's no shortage in options. Buying directly from jp may still be cheaper tho

[tropic urchin]

I got my daidai soft from their JP site and fuck was that an adventure

[night atlas]

Why was I under the impression that their mousepads were a lot more expensive

lol

or are these the cheaper options

[gusty patio]

That key gets pretty expensive it looks like. I always get the big ones cause I like the surface for my desk

[night atlas]

Ya I was just expecting the $100s range

[gusty patio]

My most recent purchase was 2 shidenkai v2 but they took those out of production. The key 83 sounded interesting and there was another I was looking at

[tropic urchin]

I think highest I saw was like $70 on Amazon when I bought my first

[night atlas]

Which one would be the closest to steelseries QcK?

[tropic urchin]

I’d have to take a look after work to get familiarized with QcK

[tropic urchin]

I’d take a look at this in the meantime

I know nothing about steelseries shii

[marsh saffron]

In 2023 I got tremors + rsi + fucked my wrist up

And for about a year and a half I barely touched kbm in terms of fps/ aim training

Now I'm giga washed and aim like shit

[tropic urchin]

@marsh saffron do I get a sword x before it’s GGs

[kind helm]

grind too hard

[marsh saffron]

Ergo blehhh

[wet heart]

💀

[marsh saffron]

Rsi was from thst yeah

8h of aimlabs every day for 2 weeks💀 💀 💀

[wet heart]

optimum has to be one of the best people at masking whats realistically stupid testing

he barely tests any products and has no market awareness

and he, just like ltt has never heard of a debounce time

or has never thought to maybe uh

set it down to a reasonable level?

[kind helm]

i cant never do that, i always pause a bit between run either from boredom or just massage a bit to relax the muscles :3

[wet heart]

and do proper testing XD

[wet heart]

wlmouse switch binning is crazy

at least their nihils

also their bases at least on their beastx lineup tend to be warped

[tropic urchin]

I’ve only used omrons

[wet heart]

optimum

[wet heart]

their nihils have terrible consistency

they are genuinely great switches

but

the issue is that they just sound and feel very different on the same mouse

lmb vs rmb

boardzy's sword x also had this issue

which he got with nihils

[marsh saffron]

I got bored of actual games at the time and was just wanting to grind to try and get gm tracking score

[wet heart]

iirc

[marsh saffron]

Didn't get any gm scores, and got rsi😭 😭

[wet heart]

my beastx mini came with a warped base, poor switch binning and side button grinding

[marsh saffron]

I threw so hard

[tropic urchin]

Once I heard over time the nihils can double click that was GgS for me to not try lol

[marsh saffron]

• nihils are super stiff

[wet heart]

and they tried to get me to pay for the rma shipping lol

[tropic urchin]

Yeah that’s not ideal for fps mouse

[marsh saffron]

Opticals are the move for wlmouse products

[wet heart]

and their warranty doesnt cover shipping damage during rma's

[wet heart]

personally I like that

just my preference

[marsh saffron]

I hate stiff switches

[wet heart]

I just like tactility

[tropic urchin]

Fuck I wanna have a backup magnesium mouse

Sword x ergo doesn’t look too bad for size

[marsh saffron]

Blue shell pink dot superior mech switches

[wet heart]

also theyre not that stiff for me

tbh

[wet heart]

non transparent bspd's go hard

I still treasure my atlantis og v1

[marsh saffron]

Both go hard but non transparent are heaven

[wet heart]

for having imo the best feeling component selection of any lamzu mouse

sadly the encoder is prone to failure but yk

[wet heart]

fr

[marsh saffron]

My og Atlantis mini is same

[wet heart]

still my favourite feeling encoder

[wet heart]

for me mainly the og atlantis non mini

the mini switched to tbspd's

[marsh saffron]

Encoder feels great but yeah they are prone to dust build up because it's open top

[wet heart]

and ttc silver

[marsh saffron]

Oh..

[wet heart]

im talking ab the ttc gold

non dustproof

[tropic urchin]

Sword x should have same click latency as beastx right night or is it slightly slower

[wet heart]

I think at least?

ima be real click latency is irrelevant lol

as long as it's below 3ms

it's not like sensor latency

[marsh saffron]

I think og mini uses ttc gold non dustproof either

[wet heart]

it does?

I thought I remembered them switching it for the launch of the mini tho

[marsh saffron]

I thought it did I may be wrong

[marsh saffron]

You might be right

I'm not 100% certain

[wet heart]

my ttc gold non dustproof has held up very well though

im not gonna argue that it's built to last

cuz it sure as hell isnt

but for me

I'm fortunate enough to have it still work

[marsh saffron]

Do you know what encoder they use on mini 4k?

[wet heart]

ttc silver

[marsh saffron]

Non dust proof silver i see

[wet heart]

same as the thorn iirc

i HATED the thorn scrollwheel

it was so raspy

and the wheel material was like

squishy?

[marsh saffron]

I lubed my mini 4k with 105g0

[marsh saffron]

And it got rid of this

[wet heart]

yea

[marsh saffron]

• fixed my ghost scrolls (dust buildup)

[wet heart]

I lubed my ttc gold too

it began to get a bit raspy

[marsh saffron]

I wish I could lube my beastx scroll but it's closed 😭

[wet heart]

yeah

bro the beastx scrollwheel fucking blows

why did they choose 1: a stiff scrollwheel encoder

[marsh saffron]

Beastx pros is better iirc

[wet heart]

and 2: a slippery plastic wheel

like thats so stupid

[marsh saffron]

But yeah beastx mini scroll is its only downside imo

Plastic wheel with very rough steps on encoder

[wet heart]

for me the downside is it's qc and scrollwheel

[marsh saffron]

Qc has been incredible for me

[wet heart]

and their warranty policy is disgusting

at least when I last looked

[marsh saffron]

Best qc of any mouse I've owned

[wet heart]

im mainly talking about on a larger scale

I've seen so many people who have their beastx mice creak

which is due to the base being warped i believe

qc is on par with finalmouse

u get a good mouse if u get a good unit

[marsh saffron]

Should've made it all magnesium

[wet heart]

but I got kinda fucked

i got a warped base

grindy side buttons

[marsh saffron]

Wtf

[wet heart]

grindy main buttons kinda?

and poor switch binning

the side buttons grind against something

as in theres friction

against something

when I press it down

[marsh saffron]

My beastx mini has been the most solid mouse I own

[marsh saffron]

Oh that's odd

[wet heart]

they fixed my warped base and now the creaking is gone

but they didnt fix anything else

tried to get me to pay $30 shipping

for a fucking rma

[marsh saffron]

Sadge

[wet heart]

and their warranty doesnt cover rma shipping damage

so if u send it back for repair

and it breaks on the way

[marsh saffron]

Lamzu warranty and customer service is unmatched

[wet heart]

they can say

"fuck u"

yea

lamzu's cool

[marsh saffron]

Goated custom service

[wet heart]

aside from using generative ai on their website

but chinese companies will be chinese companies

[marsh saffron]

Rma'd my Atlantis mini without needing to send my unit it

[wet heart]

who cares about ethics in the mouse industry when theres money to be made

[marsh saffron]

And i fixed my Atlantis mini so I got a free mouse

Lol

[wet heart]

same with my op1 8k

and endgame gear

but both units had the same qc issue

the original one had another qc issue

and they basically told me

"thats a you issue"

[marsh saffron]

If i didn't like beastx shape + magnesium as much id order another lamzu

[wet heart]

they edited this later but I mentioned myself being autistic because I have sensory problems with chalky textures

[marsh saffron]

Beastx pro with solid sides will be my end game for the next few years at least

[wet heart]

like the atlantis charcoal black coating

and a fresh op1 8k coating

worn it's fine

but stock it irritated me

mentioned that

[marsh saffron]

I love the chalky texture

[wet heart]

they basically said my issue with my scrollwheel was my problem

[marsh saffron]

I have so much grip w it

[wet heart]

and i was just having sensory issues

and it was highly unlikely that 2 units in a row had the same issue

which was scrollwheel popping

[wet heart]

for me it's jsut

it sends shivers down my spine

if yk what i mean

feeling that chalky texture

like i cant stand using chalk

[marsh saffron]

Yeah if your prone to sensory issues I can get that

[wet heart]

it gets worse depending on how dry my hands are

if my hands are more moist I dont feel it as much

[marsh saffron]

I love that chalky feeling because it makes it so sweat basically doesn't effect my grip

[wet heart]

im tryna wear down my og v1 coating

cuz it's like

2 years old

and it's like brand new lol

cuz i always used grip tape

its in ridiculously good shape tbh

im baffled

[marsh saffron]

Lamzu coating is honestly goated for how long it lasts

I mained my mini 4k for 2 years straight and it feels practically brand new

Give it a isopropyl clean down and it literally feels like out of the box

If i didn't like beastx shape so much I'd go lamzu again

But modified starlight shape is just sooooo comfortable for aggro claw

I can't put it down

Everytime I go back to my lamzu I gotta adjust my grip for a bit to get used to it again

Holy wall of yap my apologies 😭

[tropic urchin]

Kinda cringe I won’t be able to make it for the new sword x design before de minimalis ends 🥀

[marsh saffron]

Its okay it's an ergo

[tropic urchin]

🥀

[marsh saffron]

(Certified ergo hater)

[tropic urchin]

It doesn’t even look that large, mostly just want something slightly larger than Beastx as a secondary change up

Beastx max would be too similar

[devout needle]

Guys my Keyboard is dead

[marsh saffron]

• doesn't have solid side/smaller slits

But you seem to like the slits so probably wouldn't bother you

[tropic urchin]

My pinky finger feels it on certain days

[marsh saffron]

I'm still unsure if I get max or solid side pro tbh

[tropic urchin]

That’s the only finger that gets uncomfortable to the slit

[marsh saffron]

Tbh I've been hovering my pinky lately

But I use mini

So my pinky has very little space if I don't hover it

[tropic urchin]

(Certified mini hater)

[marsh saffron]

My fingers naturally curl in so mini feels good for me

[tropic urchin]

Blehh

[marsh saffron]

Stretching my fingers is uncomfortable so mini w super aggro claw is just👌 👌 👌

I'm too broke to order a new mouse for a while

Still need to buy oled too 🥴

Oled + beastx pro prob gonna set me back 1k

😭

[tropic urchin]

Real

[marsh saffron]

Meanwhile I've got 15$ in my bank account

Living lavish out here

[tropic urchin]

I’m tryna not impulse stash on more peripherals but I’m also not tryna use my plastic mice

[marsh saffron]

How

Did they lower price on ulx?

[marsh saffron]

Yeah once I get another beastx I probably won't buy mice for at least a few more years

[tropic urchin]

I’d wait for the new designs, but I also am not gonna cop a 125% increased mouse

[marsh saffron]

125%?

[tropic urchin]

It’s now or never until they go away 💀

[marsh saffron]

Tarrifs hit for yall now?

[tropic urchin]

May 2nd

Is when the $800 exception ends

Then everything is fair game

[marsh saffron]

😭

[tropic urchin]

Now you see where I’m coming from lol

[marsh saffron]

Ah so that's why your debating getting sword x now i see i see

[tropic urchin]

It’s either now or never

[marsh saffron]

Well shit id go for it then

Forgot about tarrifs lol

[tropic urchin]

Yeah

I love my beastx so I figure sword x should be a fun use

I’ll prob use my obsidian dots on it or tiger ice since it’s heavier

[marsh saffron]

You like ergos so probably

Taking tarrifs into account I say maybe go for it

[tropic urchin]

I didn’t like my Stormbreaker for fps as much

[marsh saffron]

Could get tempered beastx max w solid sides

[tropic urchin]

This goes hard

[tropic urchin]

Tempered?

[marsh saffron]

Silver and light blue goes so well together

[marsh saffron]

The new limited colorway

Iirc the beastx max has a solid side option for the limited tempered colorway

Might be worth trying if you can get one

[tropic urchin]

Oh ic

Yeah I don’t fw the tempered design

[marsh saffron]

Me neither tbh

If they come out w a beastx max pro

I'll cop a solid side beastx max

[tropic urchin]

I think I’ll cop the sword

And die by the sword

😭🥀

[marsh saffron]

Lmk what you think of it

The sides look comfortable with how they did the slits on it

Probably won't ever buy one because it's ergo but still curious

[tropic urchin]

With the added weight I think tiger ice might do well on it

39g vs 49g gonna be weird but w/e

[trail bane]

I hope if this will be looks great irl

And maybe i’ll buy it

[wet heart]

OMG

CASE HARDENED

BEASTX

OMG

[trail bane]

Yea

[wet heart]

😍 😍

SEND THIS TO OHNEPIXEL

[trail bane]

Pro/ mini pro/max

But no gambling

NO

THERE IS ACTUALLY RANDOM PATTERNS

W

And fu

[trail bane]

Only 1800 units, only omron opticals

[marsh saffron]

It'll match his 80he

[wet heart]

XD

yea

[trail bane]

Fuc i need sell my old keebs as fast as i can

If i sell both

[trail bane]

I can buy this wl

And there $20 left on beer(currently only 0% alcohol)

[untold wigeon]

I still think bigsley and the other placebomaxxer are the same person

[trail bane]

👀

[trail bane]

Feck?

[lament jetty]

I just need to put a little into the area with a syringe to fix the spacebar? cause I used a little but nothing really changed but Im nervous to add more cause I dont want the pcb to get krytox on it

[tulip rapids]

what mouse is this?

[trail bane]

https://youtu.be/vxHb6CJc9V8

https://youtu.be/usNx1_d0HbQ?si=nS3Ti3YGfwDjAwXO

https://youtu.be/UIaGllh-pYc?si=4qcPRH5_9-lPQjx_

[trail bane]

Stop put ctrl C ctrl V here

[tropic urchin]

Sword X

Mouse I’m considering copping before it’s 140% more expensive

[lament jetty]

omg I cant why in any help discord do ppl jus tlink videos its so counterproductive like I already know and have looked up videos XD

[silk hound]

lol turns out my friend forgot to ship the rest of the parts

[stray tiger]

lol

[silk hound]

whole mounting pad is across the world

[stray tiger]

The good news is that he has it

[polar girder]

Why do people think I’m legit a schizo discord user lol

[silk hound]

Yeah no need to work thru it with vendors, I was chatting with Syrah from OW for a solution but told them the good news haha

[polar girder]

Who’s the other placebo maxer tho?

[silk hound]

@untold wigeon

[round sparrow]

this guy is so annoying

[stray tiger]

Have him expedite it!

[silk hound]

Yup that's what I told him haha needs here ASAP

literally waited almost month now since it shipped (majority of it is aus post not shipping fast enough)

[stray tiger]

Yeah Ive got some stuff coming from DailyClack and shipping was slow due to aus post

[tawdry tree]

how the heck do you forget that? 😂😭

[lament jetty]

if the spacebar doesnt feel mushy after applying lube then the pcb is fine correct??

[untold wigeon]

wrd

[untold wigeon]

1 blocked message

[silk hound]

Fr, I was asking same thing - like now I gotta wait haha

[untold wigeon]

bro why did they remove being able to ping people who blocked u vro

[stray tiger]

You want to ping someone who blocked you?

[cyan lark]

I'm not sure you understand the purpose of blocking someone.

[tawdry tree]

is discord ok?

[cyan lark]

Seems to be now

[untold wigeon]

Finally

[cyan lark]

Hey uh... don't be a dick?

[untold wigeon]

ur right

i lowkey shouldnt be a dick

Christ said to respect people

[silk hound]

RoyLovesJesus

[lusty river]

Love the Wooting and rapid trigger and low actuation are amazing and its way better than my old keyboard
But I miss the physical feel of my old Corsair K70 Rapidfire (MX Speed switches)
Is there a way to replicate that feel on the Wooting, maybe with different springs or mods? Would love some advice! thanks!!

[untold wigeon]

Everyone should Love him!!

[stray tiger]

Which switches do you have?

[untold wigeon]

dont think you can recreate feel

Although koms are the closest you are getting realistically

[lusty river]

Linear60

[lusty river]

sorry what are koms?

[cyan lark]

TTC King of Magnetic

a.k.a Magneto (at least on milktooth.com)

[lusty river]

oh are they the closest to mx speed switches?

[untold wigeon]

In all honesty he cant really replicate mx feel

[cyan lark]

I've never used mx speed, but they (and many other after market HE switches) have the same short travel of around 3.5mm

[lusty river]

oh so thats what might make the feel I want? and thats impossible since wooting has 4.0 right?

would using other springs change anything? or what does that do?

[cyan lark]

Lekkers are 4mm, yeah

[untold wigeon]

no

U need new switches

Whats the mm for silvers?>

[cyan lark]

Changing springs would affect how much force you need to apply to depress the switch, and how quickly it will bounce back.

[untold wigeon]

3.4 so its like raws

lemar get raws

[cyan lark]

I would hesitate to recommend raws

[untold wigeon]

Closest he's getting he can get the 60g

40 start compared to 45g of speed silver and same bottom out 3.4

[cyan lark]

Sure but they have some real issues that it sounds like the Owlabs Ti fixes at a similar price point.

(haven't tried the Ti myself, unfortunately)

[untold wigeon]

i offered guy on ebay 50 dollars for keybord and he reduced 50 dollars off the 200 dollar price tag

[lusty river]

those switches are not from wooting right? are they still compatible despite the travel difference etc?

also with the software and stuff+

sorry i couldnt type i was ingame, thanks first of all for all the advice!!

[lusty river]

is there something similiar perhaps?

[stray tiger]

For you pokeman enjoyers https://www.instagram.com/p/DINjFxTxEyw/?igsh=MTY4ZHBuaW4wcDNhZg==

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[sweet oak]

ewww wtf

[steel ibex]

Does anyone know of some keycaps that are black, backlit, and the legends are the same color as the keycap?

[tawdry tree]

razer’s

phantom or whatever

but they’re blanks basically

[steel ibex]

Also the Wooting 60 is 6.25u right

[tawdry tree]

without light

[tawdry tree]

yeah

[little glen]

black, backlit and legends are same color as keycap?

how is that supposed to work

[steel ibex]

Like these but black https://a.co/d/7vebQMn

[quartz finch]

Should I get 60he+ and what switches should I get for absolute best performance in gaming

[marsh saffron]

Still a bit of snow on the mountains

[polar girder]

TTC POM X WOOTING SWITCHES

[quartz finch]

Would I notice a difference between the 80he and 60he if they both had the same switches

I mean does one stand above the other

[marsh saffron]

No

[marsh saffron]

Technically yes, but the difference isn't humanly perceivable

Sub 1ms

[main swan]

Hello, I’m new to the keyboard space. I recently purchased the Wooting x TTC KOM POM. But I want to try lubing them as I see that many people suggest doing so for this switch. But I can’t find any information about lubing. There’s different types of lube but I don’t know which is best for the TTC KOM POM. May I get your suggestion(s) for which lube I should purchase. Also, I already have the Switch Toolkit from Wooting, but are there any other tools that I need or would help with lubing my switches?

[quartz finch]

It is for high level esports though

[marsh saffron]

205g0

[marsh saffron]

And no no extra tools needed

[marsh saffron]

No, like literally 0 human on earth can notice a sub 1ms difference

A 60he is 0.8 milliseconds slower than an 80he

[quartz finch]

Ok well I just need an upgrade that I would notice for apex pro from 2019

[marsh saffron]

Just choose layout you prefer

[quartz finch]

I just need it to be in stock that’s all

IDC which one I get

They r both amazing

[marsh saffron]

Idk which are in stock

Both are on back order fairly often

[quartz finch]

Yeha ik

[marsh saffron]

You can't just back order it to get your preferred layout

[quartz finch]

I already ordered the 80he module with a case and rest of it but it was on back order so I canceled it

[marsh saffron]

?

Why do you not want to back order

[main swan]

Does brand of the lube matter? Because I am seeing glp, kryptox, etc.. for the 205g0 lube

[quartz finch]

It takes 3 months to get where I live

And I needed it sooner for a tournament for lots of money

I had too

[marsh saffron]

Buying second hand would be fastest

[quartz finch]

Nah if it’s not on back order it normally arrives in like 12 days max

[marsh saffron]

You could need to wait a month anyway if nothings in stock

[quartz finch]

They r in stock I checked

[marsh saffron]

Both 80 and 60?

[quartz finch]

I’m in Australia

Yeah but not 80he modules

The rest is

[marsh saffron]

Just get a prebuilt of your preferred layout

[quartz finch]

Yep

[marsh saffron]

If you wanna mod it do thst at a later date

[quartz finch]

Yep I will I will also be getting around 20 best switches for my keys I use in game

The TTC POM X WOOTING SWITCHES

[harsh dove]

The placebo maxxers in this discord will tell you otherwise

[marsh saffron]

That's why they remain placebo maxxers

[cyan lark]

^ These people are just old and can't detect sub millisecond time deltas

[marsh saffron]

True gotta get my neuralink transplant first

[foggy scroll]

Has anyone gotten pbt fans keycaps? Wondering about quality
Was thinking of getting their blank black set that’s on sale rn as a “starter set”

[harsh dove]

Yeah PBTFans is good

[marsh saffron]

I hit 20 and my ability to notice latency differences disappeared

Now everything's just fast

[untold wigeon]

because you need 8k

[harsh dove]

I have 8k

[cyan lark]

I was a bit disappointed by the legends on PBTFans sets, but blanks seem like a no-brainer.

[peak breach]

Still no news about the owlabs collab

Wooting trying to dodge those tariffs

[cyan lark]

Life starts going by fast, too

[harsh dove]

Yeah that's some peoples main complaint I think

[marsh saffron]

True...

[foggy scroll]

I had heard this, is why I gravitated towards blanks a little more

[harsh dove]

Not as crisp as GMK

[marsh saffron]

Xray my beloved

[stray tiger]

They not too bad. Not GMK sure but solid

[cyan lark]

Oh yeah I'm being discerning for sure

[harsh dove]

It's funny tho I can tell if somethings a GMK set or not just based on the legends

[foggy scroll]

I’m not super into spending 250 or more on caps rn, so I think GMK is mostly off the table

I thought chaos theory ones looked sick tho

[cyan lark]

But I guess I would have expected to pay a little less for the noticeably fuzzy legends

[harsh dove]

Yeah feathered edges

[untold wigeon]

cam did you see

what i tagged you in

[harsh dove]

No

[untold wigeon]

vro

[harsh dove]

[untold wigeon]

true 40k

scan

[harsh dove]

Now go buy it

[untold wigeon]

i have it

dw

[harsh dove]

and do a blind test of that vs wooting or venom

and lemme know if you feel a difference

[untold wigeon]

wanna let me test you venom out

[uneven cradle]

How's it true 40k if it's 8k polling

[cyan lark]

Double blind*

[untold wigeon]

scan

My venom is being shipped to geon

as we speak

[uneven cradle]

That's not how it works

[cyan lark]

Yeah but either side being lower limits the actual rate at which changes can have an effect

[calm pulsar]

obsolete pcb rip

[untold wigeon]

not wrong

[calm pulsar]

venom is so 2024, you need to get on with the times

[cyan lark]

Like running a 5000hz monitor with a screen in front of it that only opens at 30hz. You'll still just see 30hz.

[untold wigeon]

fr

[tropic urchin]

@marsh saffron I got a lil $ back, sword x on discount now 😮‍💨

[harsh dove]

Once you experience greatness, you never wanna go back

[cyan lark]

KKB legends are also razor sharp. Yeah I would hesitate to try sets outside of those two.

[harsh dove]

I still need some KKB

[cyan lark]

Get on that retro mixed lights train 🚂

[harsh dove]

I was gonna get this awhile back

[untold wigeon]

i haved that set

its very sexy

[cyan lark]

Oh that's nice as well

[stray tiger]

Don't I just sold that set for $30

[harsh dove]

I could get Retro Mixed for $105 with free shipping

[harsh dove]

Nah I wasn't going too lol

[cyan lark]

That's about what I paid, though I added the dark alphas as well.

All in

No regrets, it's one of my favorites now. I will say the finish on KKB is quite different from GMK. Not as rough.

[uneven cradle]

I missed those $90 AUD GMK sets

[cyan lark]

Eventually I figure it'll all even out w/ use though.

The two sets I got outta that deal just landed in the US, should be here this weekend 🤞

Praying that Nord doesn't look the way it did for Tirade

[stray tiger]

@polar girder 4k going to take some getting used to but looks amazing

[polar girder]

Spiffy

What is that knife name lol

What size is it?

So many pixels

[stray tiger]

Spear of Longinus

[rotund bison]

bringing about human instrumentality one backstab at a time

[sacred elm]

😭

mo

[tropic urchin]

HELL nah

[cyan lark]

Is the aspect ratio messed up in that pic?

[sacred elm]

no the shape is weird

lol

[cyan lark]

So squat!

[sacred elm]

and its so small

[cyan lark]

Reminds me of travel mice

[polar girder]

What is that?

Right one

[sacred elm]

its so small but only 5-7g lighter than beastx pro

[polar girder]

Kinda dig it

[sacred elm]

wlmouse miao

their new release

[polar girder]

Nice

[sacred elm]

meow

[polar girder]

Yeah that sucks

Not that I fuck with wireless anyway

But weird colorways

But still cool. Thanks for sharing

[sacred elm]

yea colors are weird but its probably good for fingertip grip + its magnesium

magnesium on top

[cyan lark]

Blocked

[sacred elm]

thats what mouse is called

😭

[polar iris]

not spoken for ages, got shook by my username

[polar girder]

Yeah I kind of want magnesium mouse

But meh

Kinda chilling lol

[tropic urchin]

magnesium clears

[silk hound]

Starlight 12! 🗣️

[steel ibex]

I don’t think it’s supposed to do that

There’s no problem on the left sife

Or with my normal Wooting keycap

Or if I invert the keycap

[sacred elm]

https://deltakeyco.com/products/geon-stem-spacer

get this

[fluid ravine]

Time to get to selling my optimum

Opimum

Opium

[steel ibex]

on which stab?

also is there another way to fix because sihpping is like 20$

[polar girder]

For what

[polar girder]

Like what’s this

[fluid ravine]

#📦│batch_updates message

[fluid ravine]

Free up some space and free money basically

[steel ibex]

its time to smuggle cases into the us\

[polar girder]

Oh gotcha

Yeah good time to sell

[fluid ravine]

Yup

[polar girder]

I have module

Lolz

[fluid ravine]

Still haven't like post anything abt it soo

[polar girder]

WTS

[fluid ravine]

Where you planning to sell it on?

[thorn zealot]

how tight is ur venom in ur leggera

[fluid ravine]

How to measure

[thorn zealot]

hmm

like does it fall out if u flip it over

[polar girder]

HWS/MM

[fluid ravine]

Where tf

[stray tiger]

Hardware Swap or Mechmarket

[fluid ravine]

Idk my acronyms like that

[fluid ravine]

Thx

[cyan lark]

Oh wow just now seeing the news about Wooting shipments to the US

Don't blame them. What a boondoggle.

[harsh dove]

[marsh saffron]

Whats happening?

[cyan lark]

#📦│batch_updates message

[visual ore]

Ooof

Yeah that's rough

[tropic urchin]

eBay eating good now

[fluid ravine]

Nope

If installed correctly and the oring fills the gaps/cutouts accommodated with the gummy oring with screw in stabs it should fit snug or smooth but not loose.

[thorn zealot]

are u using the oring it came with or ur bakeneko one

[fluid ravine]

I don't remember tbh 😭

Both fit the same if you're wondering

[thorn zealot]

i must be doin some wrong

[fluid ravine]

What happening

Talk to me

[thorn zealot]

the bottom half likes to fall out

[fluid ravine]

Uh huh

[thorn zealot]

the only thing thats snug is the standoffs area

next to tab and backspace

[fluid ravine]

What stabs?

U running

[thorn zealot]

knight v3

[fluid ravine]

Can you take a picture of the oring

Space bar area

Should look like this

See how the screw in stabs are like pushing the oring into the case cutouts?

It needs to be like that

[fluid ravine]

Found your problem lol

Your oring is pushed above the stab screw

I think you should be only installing it like that for other gummy mount cases since they don't have the cutouts like the leggera does

Let the oring wrap around the plate and PCB like normal without having to push it above the stabs, and install the whole thing from bottom towards up.

Lmk if you need like a video tut

I can make one in a bit (gonna make one anyways just incase if someone needs help

[thorn zealot]

holy i just noticed those cutouts

im on the spectrum heavy

[fluid ravine]

Yh it's intentional by geon lul

[fluid ravine]

No it's all g, I noticed it a lot later myself

W geon

[stray tiger]

It's how normal o-ring mounted PCB's are.

[fluid ravine]

No we meant for the leggera case

[thorn zealot]

finally

[fluid ravine]

Ayyy

Pog

[thorn zealot]

now i can stare at my cf weight at night

[fluid ravine]

[thorn zealot]

i would get that copper one but its basically too late now

[fluid ravine]

Yh

[thorn zealot]

im not paying them tariffs

[fluid ravine]

Fug tariffs

Idk how shit works but

[thorn zealot]

idk either

the only thing i watched abt them was an snl skit on it

[fluid ravine]

What's the point of it anyways

[thorn zealot]

i dont want to get too political here

but i think its cuz trump is a bit dum

[fluid ravine]

[fluid ravine]

Idk man, I be seeing y'all talk abt political shit abt tariffs and I'm like dayum, idk wtf y'all saying

Oh well

[thorn zealot]

im in ap gov and politics and idk either💀

[fluid ravine]

Need to stack on keyboard parts frfr

[thorn zealot]

like i get the gov parts and how it works

but politics to me makes no sense

[fluid ravine]

All I know is that I'm gonna hate US history next year

And I got a state test on it as well

[thorn zealot]

us history not that bad

unless u take ap

[fluid ravine]

Yeah fuck that

[tropic urchin]

Take AP Econ and they’ll prob mention it

[fluid ravine]

I don't got that at my school

Hate my school frfr

[tropic urchin]

L school