🔧│keyboard_modding

[tawdry tree]

The magnet is inside the switch.

Yes, it’s normal.

👍

[tawdry tree]

wooting killer

https://tenor.com/view/hmm-suspect-gif-22611582

[fallen pecan]

13 sold til now

[calm pulsar]

rip these people could've gotten a venom

[sacred elm]

32k scan rate

0.001 rapid trigger

https://tenor.com/view/sospechoso-suspizcaz-chicken-judging-you-gif-17495234

[chilly mural]

Makes my brain hurt. Could've got venom

[tawdry tree]

no RGB, can’t.

[sacred elm]

Just lube stem walls, bottom housing and springs

no need to lube literally everything

[tropic urchin]

That’s like 75% of the way there hehe

[little glen]

6 minutes per switch

you can do better

i did a full tkl in about 4 hours with prep and figuring out how shit works

first (and only) time ive lubed a board so far

[floral vale]

Is popping lekker switches by hand from the backside ok?

[lunar willow]

Can 80he replace the silicone sandwich with a poron sandwich?

[languid kestrel]

sure

[languid kestrel]

nu

[little glen]

you can probably mod the silicone pad and cut out the middle and replace that with poron

but replacing entirely is probably not possible due to it being mounted using the silicone pad

[floral vale]

like recommended feature or is there safer options?

[high sphinx]

Is it new ?

[sacred elm]

Yes

[high sphinx]

I wonder how it performs

Also gaterin magnetic green dragon switch any good ?

[sacred elm]

its jade gaming recolor

[high sphinx]

Ty

[high sphinx]

I hope eyejoker will test it its interesting

[sacred elm]

It has some unrealistic specs

I think gateron is smoking something

They should share it with us

[tropic urchin]

not even jade rubies included trash keeb

[sacred elm]

There is an option

but then whole thing costs 370$ or something

[tropic urchin]

costs $370 and GMK isnt even included, yikes

[sacred elm]

💀

Sure.

good luck using 0.004 rapid trigger with jades

[tropic urchin]

XTREEEEEEEEEEEEEME COMPOOT POWA

maybe make a stable switch first

that doesnt sound like shit

bluds got bored making switches so now they making keebs

Lateron

[tawdry tree]

Yeah, you can although the poron replacement pad is only sold in the US iirc.

[final bloom]

Lubing the geons, the factory lube on mine were... shit

[tawdry tree]

It was Canada, here’s the link: https://torontokeyboardman.ca/products/wooting-80he-modding-kit

[sacred elm]

https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256808343782952.html

[stone flax]

what switch

[final bloom]

Geon raw

These things

[stone flax]

hrng

[tawdry tree]

Nice

[silk hound]

https://tenor.com/view/edp-i-mean-its-all-right-gif-26702511

[errant lake]

80HE with poron plate foam

[kind helm]

PCB Mount with Gasket Socks looks like it may work with venom

nvm

i thought the gasket just hook on to the pcb without the extensions

[tropic urchin]

oo gold accent big dolla rolla

[kind helm]

price not too crazy

unlike this one...

[chilly mural]

waow

[polar girder]

Looks like Cloudnine

[stone flax]

ass

[silk hound]

Cloudnine is better

[ocean anchor]

too rgb tts koms need lubing

also what kind of foam and tape do i need for 80he gt80 case

[little glen]

Wdym

I use poly fill in my gt80

And tape modded my 80he but you dont have to do that

[ocean anchor]

what about the ttc rgb koms do they need hand lubing

[little glen]

All ttc kom need hand lubing

[ocean anchor]

where do i get the lubi’g stuff from

[little glen]

If you dont want to hand lube get geon raw he or duhuk

[ocean anchor]

ttc koms i heard r best tho

[little glen]

Duhuk seem to be the new hype thing for people here and it‘s cheaper than ttc pom

[little glen]

Yes

But $$ and need lubing

If ur ok with those, go for that

[ocean anchor]

i got money enough for it

what lube stuff do i get

[little glen]

I got the lubing kit from wooting but you can probably get a better deal elsewhere

Get krytox 205g0, a switch opener and some brushes

[ocean anchor]

im assuming i can get a switch brush and opener from ali express?

[little glen]

Yeah or from a keyboard store in your country

[ocean anchor]

idk if seattle has one

[little glen]

If ur in US, EU, Canada, UK etc you shouldnt have much of an issue

Plents of US based online stores that sell keyboard lubing supplies

You can even get the lube pen https://omnitype.com/products/lube-pen

[ocean anchor]

i decided on gmk keycaps instead of glorious aura caps are the gmks better

[little glen]

I may be a bit biased (i own 3 gmk sets and bought 4) but i do believe it was the correct descision

[ocean anchor]

https://www.gmkkeycaps.com/product/gmk-white-japanese-cherry-custom-keycaps-set/

[little glen]

I will probably buy another set of gmk in the near future

Unfortunately that site sells fakes

[ocean anchor]

where’s the real one

[little glen]

Bunch of online retailers carry them

Omnitype, novelkeys for example

[ocean anchor]

are the ones i linked a real one tho or do those exist

[little glen]

Gmk also have an official store but it is based in germany (like they are) so you would pay more for import + shipping

[ocean anchor]

oh is that why there’s a g

[little glen]

So i would recommend going to a seller closer to you

[ocean anchor]

but are there real ones of the one i linked

[little glen]

https://www.alexotos.com/keyboard-vendor-list/

Idk to be honest

Black on white with japanese characters?

[ocean anchor]

thx

just white minimalistic ones

[little glen]

Yeah that should be fairly easy to find i think

Tho what makes gmk great is not just the consistent quality and the great legends but also the good colors they have

https://cannonkeys.com/products/pre-order-gmk-classic-bow

https://www.gmk.net/shop/en/gmk-cyl-bow-black-on-white/fptk5021

[ocean anchor]

dam the gmk don’t have japanese ones

[polar girder]

Yo what’s the name for these?

Like the two different type of legends

This whole extension kit looks like it’s some sort of applied lettering

[little glen]

I thought you wanted white minimalistic

[ocean anchor]

yea

[stone flax]

fake

[ocean anchor]

preferable with the japanese shi below

[ocean anchor]

yeah i got told

[little glen]

To me the japanese is not minimalistic so i discarded it in my mind when i searched

[ocean anchor]

i like these just wish it was actual white not off white

[little glen]

The lower one looks UV printed which i think i saw someone mention here or post a screenshot of the vendor that was affected being like yeah we have replacements coming from gmk

But i would send a message to the vendor you used anyway just to be sure

[stone flax]

kkb bow

[ocean anchor]

what’s that

[little glen]

Kero kero bonito doing archery

Just google those 2 words and youll see

[ocean anchor]

are thee any brands as good as gmk that have the white on black japanese ones

[tawdry tree]

Bottom one is with lightwindow, so because GMK are all amateurs they can’t triple shoot that which results in UV printed legends on those caps.

[ocean anchor]

bro these r so tuff there has to be a real version of these

[marble sierra]

I personally think keycaps are personal preference, whether there the real ones or not but that's just me... As long as my switches are legit 🤣

[ocean anchor]

dropping 100 on fakes lowk wild tho

does krome sell good keycaps

[stone flax]

no

[ocean anchor]

damn

does no one carry good ones like the ones i want

ts pmo

[little glen]

Well you can still get those gmk ones

The color may be slightly off but itll be off anyway cause white != white

[ocean anchor]

not all whites are equal

off white for clothes, matte white for car exterior, ivory for car interior, white white for most other things

[little glen]

Yeah getting matching white between keycaps and case is surprisingly difficult

[ocean anchor]

crème for sweatpants

[little glen]

Hell, try to paint a white wall with new white paint and it looks completely different where you used the new paint

[ocean anchor]

my walls are already dove white which i like

whites my fav color if u couldn’t tell already

[little glen]

I dont like white cause it makes it so obvious i suck at keeping my stuff clean

[ocean anchor]

idk when i get my first car i won’t wrap it but when im rich all my cars will be matte black or white prolly black tho bc thats the best looking for most cars

so there aren’t any good quality ones of the ones i want

[little glen]

Not that i am aware but i also dont pay attention to that kind of keycap because i do not like the aesthetic of the extra legends on each cap

[ocean anchor]

that’s why i’m getting a triple sided glass one

[little glen]

I got the phanteks g400a

[ocean anchor]

[little glen]

Very good case, i would recommend

[thorn zealot]

keybobo is rly good

[ocean anchor]

kobo? of bobo

im giving up on japanese keycaps, are there ones with comic looking fonts that are just bow

[tawdry tree]

keykobo

[ocean anchor]

i don’t see japan font ones on there

of japan legend i mena

mean

[tawdry tree]

maybe kbdfans has some

not sure

[ocean anchor]

if not are there any ones with a cool font like comic kinda font ig

that are just simple bow

[polar girder]

UV printed looks stupid on a board full of double shots

[tawdry tree]

yep, they are a bunch of noobs

😃👍

[calm pulsar]

with bright legends its fine, but yeah on cosmos it pops

imagine if cosmos was all UV printed, at least you would be able to see the legends lmao

[polar girder]

Yeah fr

[little glen]

it's fine on like mictlan

but not on cosmos

[polar girder]

Go one way or the other

Idk

Yeah I’m fairly disappointed with cosmos overall

But whatever

It’s just meh

[little glen]

i like mine

[polar girder]

Yeah I’ll still try them out

Just not impressed overall.

First impression type shit

[little glen]

https://oblotzky.industries/products/gmk-cyl-motif i never knew these were a thing

[polar girder]

lol yeah those are sweet

[little glen]

i could imagine putting these in my blue salvation

wait oblozky has a sale rn

[tulip rapids]

printed keycaps ima right?|| ||

[little glen]

dots is 89 euro

i already bought a set for my brother but i can buy another now

i could get gmk botanical and use it in a green leggera

[kind helm]

you like the dot?

[stone flax]

Dont get botanical r2

sussy

[little glen]

whats bad abt it

[little glen]

dots is cool yeah

[stone flax]

Batch afflicted with twisted stems

Theyll replace but

[kind helm]

yo what are some good brands for pbt btw

[stone flax]

ykykyk

[stone flax]

hammerworks

[kind helm]

i kinda want duhuk on pbt caps

[little glen]

[ocean anchor]

might get these

[little glen]

i was gonna get dracula cause thats on sale too but i thought maybe i will get something more colorful for once

[kind helm]

holy expensive

[stone flax]

Get aftermarket

[little glen]

i would get brg but it doesnt have norde/international kit and its also not on sale

[polar girder]

Hammerworks look clean

[opal halo]

Anyone know where i can get pom plate thats compatible with the 60he+, other than smkeyboards?

[polar girder]

GMK Stealth also looking good

[little glen]

honestly still kinda thinking about the botanical, might just roll the dice and if stems come twisted i can just check em all if need be

[stone flax]

Hypekeebs, aliexpress, getting one cut for urself

[harsh dove]

Love my GMK Stealth

[opal halo]

Ok ty!

[little glen]

cam can you help me out here

ive been told gmk botanical r2 bad but idk what else to buy thats on sale with oblozky and would go with a green leggera

[stone flax]

if u get twisted stems theyll send you replacements

its fine

[harsh dove]

Yeah I have Bot R2 and it’s fine

[little glen]

also buying some bow norde for my dad

[umbral tapir]

https://arbiterstudio.com/products/hm-z-platform-pcba-module-kit?srsltid=AfmBOoo1YX45rGgGmg8E6jWsGrBbw7jrcEbC7l3rNr1GmN-5b-VMt1kV#FUJI

0.001

[tawdry tree]

MAKE THEM BELIEVE

https://tenor.com/view/venom-gif-27487650

[ocean anchor]

https://oblotzky.industries/products/kat-milkshake are these good quality it’s either these or honor keycaps

[stone flax]

Mmmm milkshake

[harsh dove]

There is no best

[ocean anchor]

for gaming

[harsh dove]

Still no best

It’s all preference

[stone flax]

yes if u will lose every gunfight if ur opponent has ttc koms and you dont

💔

Its all about minmaxxing performance

[harsh dove]

Like sure they have the lowest stem wobble but that doesn’t make them the best switch

[stone flax]

Type shi

[ocean anchor]

💔 is outdated it’s 🥀 now

[stone flax]

🥀 is outdated

Its

⛓️‍💥

now

[ocean anchor]

or 🪫

[stone flax]

💀

Hell nah

[ocean anchor]

⌛️

what’s the “best” plate

[kind helm]

i legit couldn't tell what that was until i clicked on it

[stone flax]

Take a guess

[kind helm]

alu ez

[stone flax]

What people say

[stone flax]

🥀

[kind helm]

my perference is the best perference.

[stone flax]

pom church

[kind helm]

disgusting

[ocean anchor]

low stem wobble is good tho right

[kind helm]

if i want to burn money i just burn money.

[umbral tapir]

Rapid trigger and actuation point is gonna start quickly becoming Mice DPI

[calm pulsar]

poms on top

when you sort from highest price

[ocean anchor]

are koms and poms the same

[calm pulsar]

get ttc rgb, they have the same mold as pom but 1/3 cheaper

[kind helm]

whens your duhuk coming in sir

[calm pulsar]

should be 2 days

[ocean anchor]

does that mean same performance

[calm pulsar]

yes

[ocean anchor]

i planned on getttigg by rgb anyway

[calm pulsar]

keep in mind they need lubing

[ocean anchor]

yea

why everyone tammat duhunk

[stone flax]

I want wait for duhuk

[calm pulsar]

just new good switch that is cheap

[ocean anchor]

is alu plate good tho or what should i go for or do i first wait till i. actually get keyboard

[calm pulsar]

depends on what o

sound you want

[stone flax]

Depends on build

[kind helm]

@harsh dove in your opinion, geon pingless worth or nah

[stone flax]

Yes

But they not pingless

[ocean anchor]

deepest sound possinle

[stone flax]

Plastic plate

[ocean anchor]

default ?

[calm pulsar]

thock thock tokckh

[stone flax]

Get raeds

😆

[ocean anchor]

what’s that

[stone flax]

Thockiest thocky thock thocc thocc switch

[kind helm]

i have them on both my raws and duhuk and love them. just wanna see what others think to know how deluludelusional i am xD

[ocean anchor]

r they good performance wise

[calm pulsar]

so deep and creamy🫵😋

[stone flax]

🤤

[ocean anchor]

where do i get foam

[little glen]

use poly fill

[ocean anchor]

this?

[harsh dove]

I like them personally I didn’t lube mine at all

Feel better than the Jade Pro springs to me

Even tho those are 20mm

[kind helm]

yes i understand you have sinned.

[harsh dove]

Felt like they were crunchy kinda

[kind helm]

@fluid ravine

[stone flax]

Geon on top

The day geon makes xl he springs is the day we win

[ocean anchor]

wait so i need to replace ttc springs

[harsh dove]

Yeah if he just makes his 22mm springs HE compatible, that’d be nice

[harsh dove]

No

TTC has good springs

[ocean anchor]

is plastic plate th e default one

[kind helm]

i think raw can be even better with longer spring, but duhuk i think 15mm is fine

[harsh dove]

Yeah PC plate

[kind helm]

3.3 travel with focus on quiet top out 15mm spring seems fine to me.

[ocean anchor]

cam sre these keycaps good

[harsh dove]

If you want KAT profile

[calm pulsar]

that's cope we need 50mm springs

[ocean anchor]

is kat good for gaming or no

[stone flax]

Pre

Fe

Rence

[kind helm]

I WOULD LOVE TO SEE you trying to install that

[calm pulsar]

lol just look at the keycap profile and see if you'd be comfortable pressing that

[calm pulsar]

10mm travel switch with 50mm springs

pog

[kind helm]

pretty much no matter what you pick, key caps and switch do not impact performance realistically. if you really want to go crazy with maximaizing performance wooting is not even the best

[ocean anchor]

what’s the best

apex pro mini?

or tkl

[chilly mural]

millimeter?

[kind helm]

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJiv3w22pf4Cgpwxo70MbhQ he does really good reviews on keyboards. but again, performance impact is negligible.

[ocean anchor]

but wooting is one of the best right

[harsh dove]

Vooting or Benom

[kind helm]

Looting ez

[calm pulsar]

Wenom, Booting

[harsh dove]

Don't buy them cheap chinese boards

[chilly mural]

Waiting, Gettem

[harsh dove]

unless you have no shame

[kind helm]

mark should put your ass on timeout instead :V

[chilly mural]

*Unless you want to buy new keyboard every quarter

[ocean anchor]

so it’s not even close to the best?

[harsh dove]

what

it's literally 3rd place

[ocean anchor]

what does the chart mean

oh

i thought higher was better

[harsh dove]

No

[stone flax]

💀

[calm pulsar]

but what is the best for gaming

[harsh dove]

$25 Amazon Keeb

[calm pulsar]

now that's gamer

[chilly mural]

ps4 controller

double as a mouse

[calm pulsar]

gonna be gaeming on this soon

[chilly mural]

yeah~

You can play top level rhythm game with this

[ocean anchor]

can someone link me the lube for switches

🙏

[kind helm]

https://eyejokerdb.com/benchmarks/keyboard/

[stone flax]

Vendors list

[calm pulsar]

don't show this to Jakubix

[trail bane]

What the flip, Why did it always seem to me that the Made 68 Ultra was faster than the Wooting 80HE ._.

[stone flax]

Deadzones and it lets u set it to be more sensitive

[harsh dove]

Yeah that's not faster, just more sensitive

[stone flax]

Board can be ms faster but if ur stuck to higher deadzones and rapid trigger points it wont feel the same

less fast more sensitive

[calm pulsar]

top level rhythm game
https://youtu.be/Yhe7rcDUTeI

[stone flax]

Yh

[ocean anchor]

are there any milkshake b on w keycaps in oem or cherry profile that are as good as gmk keycaps

[harsh dove]

but it's only 0.01 ms

so within margin of error too

[polar girder]

God I hate that lol

[ocean anchor]

nvm anyone know when these will go back in stock

[round sparrow]

oblotzky is a resale of groupbuys, so not anytime soon

[ocean anchor]

months?

[polar girder]

lol that’s funny my controller just arrived last night

Played some rocket league with a buddy

[round sparrow]

try never

[ocean anchor]

Are there alternatives

[round sparrow]

you'd have to buy them from a reseler

[ocean anchor]

stockx?

[calm pulsar]

that's nice

which one you got?

[round sparrow]

https://prototypist.net/products/in-stock-pbt-milkshake?variant=39782003343426

some sites seem to still have some for sale

[ocean anchor]

why does it have hyroglyphs

[polar girder]

Razer Wolverine v3 Wired

[calm pulsar]

it's nice to have leaves preinstalled
I had to solder to add buttons to the back of my dualsense lol

[ocean anchor]

is the wooting lube set or a lube pen easier

[stone flax]

does guy just want a black on white set?

[ocean anchor]

i figured it out

im getting the gmk honor

677.76 kind wild

it’s wtv tho as long as it’s a good keyboard

[chilly mural]

mmm, noice

[high sphinx]

u can also get a cool ass gmk set from the mechmarket discord it is second hand but there are people who sell sealed boxes even or sets that are only used once

[tropic urchin]

They got like everything over there

[thorny crypt]

Does ASA profile Keycaps work on the 80 he?

[harsh dove]

That's how I got my GMK Stealth for like $150

Brand New, Sealed

[high sphinx]

yeah and i got my frog and salv like that very kind people also the two guys i got my cases from atleast

[stone flax]

ye

[thorny crypt]

Thx

[thorn zealot]

???

[trail bane]

Still no Wooting POMs on ali😭

[polar girder]

Yeah I would need blackout kit too

[ocean anchor]

how fast do gmk abs caps get shiny

[harsh dove]

Yeah unfortunately that's like impossible to find

[harsh dove]

Depends how much you use them and how sweaty you are

[stone flax]

shine is a part of life

[ocean anchor]

how shiny do they get

[harsh dove]

Smoother

[polar agate]

Hi, i’d like to ask if poron on the back of PCB will make keyboard sound better

[harsh dove]

better is subjective

I for one, do not like foam

[tropic urchin]

They’re a little smoother than PBT before they shine, but once they shine they’re super smooth feeling

[ocean anchor]

pbt doesnt shine right

[harsh dove]

Foamy sounding keyboards are gross to me

[harsh dove]

Yes it does

just takes longer

[thorn zealot]

i agree

[ocean anchor]

how much longer

[thorn zealot]

foam yucky

[polar agate]

I would like to make my wooting 80he sound deeper

[harsh dove]

again, it depends

use case and how sweaty you are

[ocean anchor]

if i just play 2 hour sessions of fortnite

[harsh dove]

Then it'd take quite awhile

[ocean anchor]

maybe i should cheap out on all my keybind switches or sum

[harsh dove]

Foam will help it sound deeper but can also make it sound muted

[ocean anchor]

how long would it take for abs to shine

if i did / hour fn sessions

also do yall get ur coiled cable from amazon or wooting

[polar agate]

I just bought some krytox 205 lube, cause the glorious one is weird. Maybe it will help

[harsh dove]

I don't use coiled cables

But Wootings kit is nice

[thorn zealot]

btw how are ur geon cables u bought recentl

[harsh dove]

I like em a lot, wish they were a bit more flexy tho

[stone flax]

get a deeper plate and deeper keycaps

[harsh dove]

they're quite rigid

[ocean anchor]

because 50$ for a cable seems kinda crazy and idk if it’s the same but on amazon

[thorn zealot]

ig thats fine for their price

[polar girder]

Yeah I’m also kind of just over buying shit lol

[harsh dove]

Well its $50 cause it's really 2 cable connectors, not just one

You get a straight cable and a coiled cable

[polar girder]

Thought GMK Cosmos might be end game

Now I’m not so sure

[harsh dove]

Worlds Best Blanks

[polar girder]

lol yeah dude

I checked them out with my under monitor lighting

Definitely can’t see shit

[harsh dove]

I'm curious if the shine will make them look better

[harsh dove]

hmm

[polar girder]

Someone speed shined a blank

[harsh dove]

I need to see a full set shined I feel to justify it

[polar girder]

Fair

[harsh dove]

that almost just looks greasy lol

[polar girder]

Overall I just feel super mid about my first GMK set

[harsh dove]

Oh this is your first?

[polar girder]

Aka shined ABS lolz

[polar girder]

Yeah

RIP

[harsh dove]

Ah damn

I mean I like mine but yeah I feel you

not a great first impression

[polar girder]

Yeah kind of feels like $180 down the drain

Yeah they’re ok they’re just hella mid

Idk

Also the UV keycaps mixed with the double shot is super weird to me and looks garbo on the set IMO

Whateverrrr

I haven’t even built my Venom yet so they’re chilling anyway lol

But yeah idk at the moment feeling the PBS BoB more but TBD I guess

I’ll still give them a fair shake

Probably keep the extension out sealed up tho lol

[harsh dove]

Yeah fair, for me I haven't really found a PBT set that I like the feel/sound of enough for a daily driver, I am too biased towards GMK/ABS for the sound and feel

Even other ABS doesn't hit quite right

like PBTFans ABS sets

don't sound the same as GMK

[polar girder]

Yeah I might feel different once I get POM’s lubed up and venom out together lol

[tropic urchin]

PBT just feels too rough, after trying GMK it’s like whiplash

[polar girder]

lol huh

The PBS set is hella slick

[harsh dove]

Tbh I like the feel of my PBT sets, it's moreso the sound for me

Esp spacebars

GMK is unmatched

[calm pulsar]

GMK is ABS though?

[harsh dove]

so much so I'll even take warped GMK spacebars over anything else lol

Yeah

[calm pulsar]

did you mean ABS here

[harsh dove]

but GMK spacebars specifically

no

I meant GMK

they hit different lol

[calm pulsar]

that true

[kind helm]

35 dolla set, shinig from the start

[calm pulsar]

something about how the keycap is done

I will get kkb cherries soon, they might be very close I feel like

[harsh dove]

KKB is nice

I need to get some sets from them

I missed out on the last sale

Wanna see if I'll like them

[calm pulsar]

kkb double shot is the same way as gmk, which is huge imo

pbtfans is different

[ocean anchor]

what we good non abs keycaps

[silk hound]

Kkb is goated they are less textured than gmks but quality is very consistent and good

[magic walrus]

Jo i want to tune my stabs but im on a Budget. I got a Medium thic ceramic grease for plastic parts in Miniature gears. Should i give it a try or just stay with the Little rately stabs?

[stone flax]

sound is 90 percent the same but theyre texturally different

[calm pulsar]

that's nice

they are here soon

[ocean anchor]

is pbt dye sublimation good

[stone flax]

fuckkkkkk

kkb cherry

on neo burgundy

is so hot

actually

WTF

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[stone flax]

its just a proccess

it depends on execution

reverse dyesub is kinda 95% all ass tho

@calm pulsar i might need to add kkb cherry to my list

@_@

[rigid burrow]

anyone experience sluggish stabilizer keys on the 60he before

[stone flax]

are they stock?

[calm pulsar]

I got so lucky I stumbled upon them on aliexpress, never seen any kkb there before

[rigid burrow]

they are not, i believe tx long pole?

these to be precise

[stone flax]

;0

[calm pulsar]

https://sl.aliexpress.ru/p?key=KPJ4GCk

[stone flax]

how did u lube them

[stone flax]

ooh nice find

still a good bit more expensive than us options

i think its 89 dollars from unikeys

which is amazing

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

💔

[calm pulsar]

yeah great price
I still would pay a big markup if I ordered from unikey so AE price is still fine for russia xd

[stone flax]

heres to hoping they make a round 2

all the good keykobo sets get round 2's and they usually come with improved kitting which is nice ;3

i still might choose rml over cherry for a burgundy cu tho

i find color matching boring

[rigid burrow]

i wiped off the lube off them they feel better(?)

[stone flax]

tx is very fussy and prone to becoming mushy when not lubed lightly enough

remember, less is more

go light

[rigid burrow]

they still a feel a lil sluggish

[calm pulsar]

I hope cherries are nice on lx60 blackout, if not then they would def be nice on froggie

[stone flax]

id say clean and start again

rml is still a set i just want

that and matsu

[calm pulsar]

I'd love a full plain set of beige on (whatever color are the arrow keys here)

love this color

[calm pulsar]

luv this

[stone flax]

such a tasty set

i wanted to get it from switchmods for $89 as an instock extra kit

but then it turned out

that switchmods kinda exit scammed

💀

dodged a bullet i guess

sadge i missed out on matsu tho, such a unique set

[rigid burrow]

thanks that solved it

[calm pulsar]

yeah at least you didnt order from loobed like I did😭

[stone flax]

beautiful site

that has been like this for months

support doesnt respond

outgoing orders without update

🔥

[calm pulsar]

thankfully there are serious people like Geon, omnitype, kbdfans, cannonkeys

[ocean anchor]

are these good

[stone flax]

how badly do you want japanese sublegends bro

[ocean anchor]

idk

i either want that or just good bow ones

i was gonna get the gmk honor but then heard those shine

i didn’t think it was gonna be the hardest part of choosing a keyboard but ig it is

[stone flax]

huh

are u against shine

[ocean anchor]

i mean i play fn so i dont want wasd to be all shiny and v and q to be shiny when the rest of my keys aren’t

and don’t they wear kinda fast

[stone flax]

thats up to the person

how are you on beige sets

also

[ocean anchor]

i would prefer white but it depends

[stone flax]

and how necessary is the japanese sublegends

[ocean anchor]

not that nescacarry if it had nice clean font

[stone flax]

https://cannonkeys.com/products/nicepbt-bow

[ocean anchor]

those r cool, if there are letters in middle it would be better

wait what comes in the cable keyboard set in wooting is it just extra cords and the curled cable

@stone flax are there any good bow ones

[polar girder]

Yeah GMK Stealth + Blackout might be the move

What’s one more set

I kind of just think the aluminum ones might be my end game tho

But that might be a bit before available

If ever

[kind helm]

so pretty

[calm pulsar]

waporwave one

[polar girder]

Yeah I want a Salvun artisan

[kind helm]

i want the spellbook one

[sweet oak]

Yeah that ones pretty

[kind helm]

is it time for me to dump money into artisan caps, CHAT

[tawdry tree]

do not

https://tenor.com/view/warning-lights-cops-emergency-gif-6098038

[fluid ravine]

https://tenor.com/view/doja-cat-star-wars-gif-25078126

||do it to become the sigma of sigmas||

Kms

[kind helm]

first hand cringe, how powerful

[fluid ravine]

[sour blade]

we be casting spells

[stone flax]

Makes switches mushy

[thorn zealot]

idk what u expected from poms sound

[fluid ravine]

POMs aren't silent, they are as clacky and loud as you're hearing from them right now

[tawdry tree]

No way he got POMs and went through the hassle of lubing thinking they were silent?!

[sweet oak]

The baldest of duhuks

[fluid ravine]

the shine is kicking in on my gmk botanical

i can feel it becoming smoother

[sweet oak]

Soon we will all be smooth, and bask in the glory

[sacred elm]

Do nothing and get used to it

[kind helm]

best you can do is put some foam in the case and between the pcb and the plate, that should help dampen it.

also use a pc plate instead of metal plates

[fluid ravine]

Yeah it just lowers the pitch and frequency :/

[kind helm]

yeee 2 biggest things are plate and switch i think

[ocean anchor]

anyone have links to good keyboard tools on ali expresss

[kind helm]

also technically i think foam sucks out sounds of certain range, lower pitch and frequency is are more related to the weight i feel

[calm pulsar]

foam? more like cope am i rite

[kind helm]

i feel like its 2 ways. either you go foam and try to make existing switch, plate, and case sound okay. or you experiment with different combination of switch, plate, and case to find something you like. the second i prefer but much more expensive

[fluid ravine]

weight for density and frequency yes but sound from the switches and what not has to travel towards the case so case foam is like an obstacle

some come and go

yeah no...

[kind helm]

i tried that on a set of switch, the switches sounded really inconsistent

[fluid ravine]

real

[kind helm]

but yes the volume is lowered but the amount varies between each switch because i was using a hand drill thingy.

[fluid ravine]

oh that smol hole shi on the bottom out hole?

i rememberr

[autumn temple]

Hi everyone I just bought the Jade switches for my 60HE and while I love the switches and the sound they make I just didnt get the satisfying solid hard bottom out feeling I got from using mechanical switches.

My question is how can I replicate that solid tactile bottom out feeling that I get from linear mechanical switches how can I replicate that sensation for my Wooting 60HE? Is that even possible wouldnt it probably come down to the plate that you are typing on because the jade switches have a closed bottom out so that should help a bit but my guess would be that the plate is the issue?

[kind helm]

essentially i hated sticky rice v2 so much i didn't care if they become fcked

[fluid ravine]

out of curiousity, what mx switch did you have?

[autumn temple]

MX cherry red

[fluid ravine]

oh

what board?

[autumn temple]

Those gave a pretty satisfying bottom out feeling im sure that could be replicated?>

It was a Corsair K70

[fluid ravine]

[autumn temple]

Pro or osmething like that

[calm pulsar]

closed bottom switch is already the closest you can get, pretty much nothing else can be done unless they come up with new pcb-switch structure for HE

[autumn temple]

Oh shit really?

[fluid ravine]

Yeah HE switches molds internally are dilated compared to MX switches

[autumn temple]

Its not HORRIBLE or anything like that it just has a softer feel if you understand what I am saying?

[fluid ravine]

yeah

you just want that firmer bottom out?

[autumn temple]

I feel like it does make me type a bit slower also maybve I could lower the actuation point that MIGHT help in a round about way ?

[calm pulsar]

MX has a pin that goes through pcb and stem bottoms out there
on HE you have a giant magnet that hits the pcb, not goes past it

[autumn temple]

Yes

Does lowering the actuation point possibly help

I think technically it can help

[fluid ravine]

yeah honestly at best you just go for bottom out switches

[autumn temple]

Cuase ill be bottoming out more frequently

[fluid ravine]

switches like jades (normal and pros), duhuks, raws, ttc POMS have a closed bottom housing which causes them to lower in actuation

replicating a LP switch

[autumn temple]

Not sure if anyone else agrees but I type way slower with magnetic switches compared to any other switch type? But for gaming magnetic swtiches are the best on the market without a doubt its just I have to sacrifice maybe like 20-40 WPM

[fluid ravine]

even though it's not a 100% LP switch

[autumn temple]

So jades and any closed bottom magnetic switch is the closest to get to satisfying bottom out?

[fluid ravine]

sure

[autumn temple]

Can they not just make them to feel better at bottom out? And also why cant they just make a tactile magnetic switch?

[fluid ravine]

it's different for everybody, but i think it's just mainly the user

like at the end of the day it's still a keyboard

[calm pulsar]

not many HE tactiles out there because of rapid trigger

[kind helm]

how dare you.

my keyboards are arts

[fluid ravine]

shhhhhh

[kind helm]

master pieces

[autumn temple]

I dont even know of a single one?

[fluid ravine]

Tactile HE switches as of right now is not possible

[autumn temple]

I dont understand how its not possible tho?

[calm pulsar]

raeds, they are topre-like

[calm pulsar]

rapid trigger will be harder to do when you have a tactile bump

[autumn temple]

Thats okay tho I dont even use rapid trigger now

[calm pulsar]

also adjustable actuation doesn’t work well with a set in place tactile bump

[autumn temple]

Oh

@calm pulsar What switches do you main rn?

[kind helm]

mr arc is a traitor

[fluid ravine]

In a tactile MX switch, there's a little hump or curve on the stem leg that makes contact with the copper leaf creating that tactile feel. (Brown is tactile and Black is linear) On a linear leg however it's just a straight slope that travels through the leaf smoothly

[calm pulsar]

ttc poms but going to try duhuks

[kind helm]

i will cry if they start putting copium leaf in HE switches

[calm pulsar]

but rn really into MX

[fluid ravine]

In a HE switch there aren't any leaf for the stem legs to push or travel through, nor arent there any legs on a HE stem

[kind helm]

to make tactile HE

[fluid ravine]

fr 😭

[ocean anchor]

are glinging keycaps good

[autumn temple]

Yeah but could they not just add that??

Can they just create a switch like that while also still being HE

[calm pulsar]

aliexpress

[autumn temple]

What is your favourite HE switch?

[sacred elm]

if you want that, get mx keyboard

[calm pulsar]

duhuk core he

[sacred elm]

why would you want tactile switches on wooting

[ocean anchor]

do yk what tools for keyboards i should get on ali

[fluid ravine]

no they can't, they can try implement it but rn none of the companies are really focusing on that. HE stems doesnt even have legs cus there is no leaf.

[kind helm]

nah some do have legs iirc

[fluid ravine]

ok that's for alignment

like the lekkers

[calm pulsar]

I did a frankenswitch to try closest feel to MX, still far from it though, so counting on duhuks

[fluid ravine]

newer switches remove that cus they realized they dont need it

[kind helm]

or maybe was just reusing some mold

[fluid ravine]

LOL

[autumn temple]

I never heard of frankenswitch before

[fluid ravine]

i mean another guy from a really while back added a leaf to a lekker v1 to make the lil knub on the stem to touch it and it made a click sound. (Trying to create a clicky HE switch)

it works

[calm pulsar]

don’t bother, just get jade pros or duhuks imo

[autumn temple]

Interesting

[fluid ravine]

but the problem with that is the tactile bump not matching the actuation like a MX switch

[ocean anchor]

what’s the best oem or cherry pbt keycaps with a budget of 70$ black on white

[autumn temple]

I just got Jades rn NON pro version cause pro is just heavier and I really hated that

Idk maybe ill change my mind in the future

[fluid ravine]

I dont know much about tactile switches on MX cus im a linear boi myself but im pretty sure that the tactile bump matches the actuation point

[kind helm]

the bump is just there to let you feel somethin, but acutuation can be wherever you want :3

[calm pulsar]

jade pros have tighter tolerances, that’s why they probably feel heavier

[calm pulsar]

it usually actuates right past bump yeah

[autumn temple]

Right, so essentially you just set actuation to where ever the bump would be which is usually half way down

[sacred elm]

No, they feel heavier because of long spring

[ocean anchor]

chat anyone know?

[autumn temple]

Pros are 5g heavier and it felt like a big difference between the two

But idk at the same time that might help me type better

By type better I mean type faster WPM

[calm pulsar]

yeah but is it that heavier? to me these differences dont matter lol
the geon gaming mx switch is 62g and it feels good after poms for me

[fluid ravine]

that is true, i would prefer for the manufactures to do that cus think of it like this, MOST of the people that wanted tactiles HE in here wants the bump to match the actuation point like a tactile MX, but here's the problem. 1, it's hard to create and 2, what if all the actuations are different on different keys? Esp while gaming and typing, wouldn't it be weird?

[autumn temple]

Difference between jade and jade pros I think is 5g

[sacred elm]

Difference is only 5g, but the long spring makes it feel even more heavier

[kind helm]

it takes a bit more force to push at the top.

[calm pulsar]

meanwhile that one guy with 400g springs

[autumn temple]

Its definitely a noticeable difference to me atleast

[fluid ravine]

Like why the hell do i want a bump that starts at 0.1mm

[kind helm]

i think it would be weird af, personally :3

[fluid ravine]

exactly

[kind helm]

custom order, not a typo

LOL

[ocean anchor]

what’s the best black on white keycaps pbt oem or cherry under 70$

[kind helm]

my duhuk tofu2.0 just got this comment, "best HE i heard"

damn

[calm pulsar]

it’s just the first one he heard

jk jk

[kind helm]

someone appreciates my art

[sacred elm]

best is my pom 80he

[ocean anchor]

am i mutted

[sacred elm]

😆 👍

[fluid ravine]

ew ew ew ew ew ew ew ew ew ew ewe e w

jk

[glacial wind]

Wuque studio bow if it’s still on sale

[ocean anchor]

okay

thanks

[sacred elm]

there will be sale on wuque keycaps soon

[ocean anchor]

im ordering the stuff tn

[ocean anchor]

how long

[thorn zealot]

https://cannonkeys.com/products/nicepbt-bow

[ocean anchor]

ok

why don’t you guys fight and who ever wins i will buy their recommended keycaps @thorn zealot @glacial wind

[thorn zealot]

???

[golden crypt]

How do I remove my switch’s? Don’t wanna back the board

[thorn zealot]

brethren just get whatevers cheaper

[ocean anchor]

they both good then?

[thorn zealot]

good for cheap

since thats what u wanted

[ocean anchor]

are they not the exact same

[thorn zealot]

they are the same because they are both bow

wow

[ocean anchor]

are pbt fans ones better

[thorn zealot]

they are all abt the same

just get the cheapest

[ocean anchor]

sre all the amazon ones ass

[glacial wind]

Wuque is doubleshot pbt and I’ve had better luck with less spacebar warping etc with Wuque then my old nicepbt stuff

[thorn zealot]

yes

[kind helm]

that guy has some nutty ass boards too, damn. kohaku65

[glacial wind]

Pbtfans stuff is decent but some folks don’t like the font used for the mod keys in particular

[ocean anchor]

and krome is bad?

[kind helm]

just as key cap brands, wuque > cannonkey >= kbdfan, i think

[glacial wind]

I’ve never used Krome before so can’t say. They’re not as widely known or used as the others

Generally I think wuque make the highest quality basic doubleshot pbt stuff right now, before you get into much pricier stuff

[kind helm]

pbtfan i think good when they have matching deskmat.

[ocean anchor]

im just gonna get a black artisan hian because i have a walnut butcher block desk n i think black looks better on walnut than white do

do you know when sale is happening on wuque bow

[kind helm]

i legit cant tell if that is intentional or nah

[fluid ravine]

ikr 😭

[kind helm]

hella fancy cable

[paper bloom]

Dorodro doro roro

[daring valve]

Hey, what stabs are compatible with the wooting 60HE+ module?

The stock ones have been good, but looking to tune some others.

[thorn zealot]

If stock ones are good why get another

[daring valve]

I may have overlubed my spacebar a bit too much lol.

[thorn zealot]

U can just take some lube off and redo

[daring valve]

Yeah I’ll clean it up

Just was wondering if any were compatible with the pc plate and whatnot

[ocean anchor]

just copped

[thorn zealot]

I mean there are cherry clip ins

Knight stabs v2/3

Those are ones ik

There some others but i forgot their names

[daring valve]

Staebies don’t work?

[fluid ravine]

nope

housing too thick

[ocean anchor]

what tools will i need to put it together the module

[daring valve]

Sad.

[thorn zealot]

Screwdriver and hands

[ocean anchor]

what about like for lubing and taking switches out n stuff

what kind of screw driver

is ali express a good place to get those things

[thorn zealot]

205g0 for switches/partial stabs

105/super lune for springs

[cosmic matrix]

is it possbile to pay for expre shipping instead of using the default one? I am leaving in a few days

[ocean anchor]

i bought the wooting lube kit

[thorn zealot]

Switch/keycap puller

[ocean anchor]

was that a bad idea

[thorn zealot]

Then ur good

[ocean anchor]

oh

[thorn zealot]

How can it be a bad idea

[ocean anchor]

what screwdriver head

or can you link me one

[thorn zealot]

Just normal ph1

Surely u have one lying around some place

[thorn zealot]

For wooting yes

[ocean anchor]

idk i moved to a new house a few weeks ago idk where the stuff is

[thorn zealot]

Just find a normal size screwdriver with like a cross head

[cosmic matrix]

how can i do that?

[ocean anchor]

who tf lives in “woonsocket”

[thorn zealot]

Not me anymore

[cosmic matrix]

Oh no, can I no longer choose the option after putting down the order?

[thorn zealot]

No

[cosmic matrix]

That's unfortunate

Oh welp, thanks

[ocean anchor]

what foam do i need again

[thorn zealot]

The one it comes with

[ocean anchor]

gt80 comes with foam

?

[thorn zealot]

Did ur module not come with foam

[ocean anchor]

idk

i just ordered

[thorn zealot]

Oh I’m pretty sure it does

The module

[ocean anchor]

i haven’t ordered keycaps yet im gonna wait till one goes on sale

[thorn zealot]

But personally I don’t use foam

[ocean anchor]

because the module isn’t even getting here till late april

[dapper pond]

has anyone used the everglide sticky rice v2 switches for the wooting 60he? I literally cannot remove these switches. I have a switch puller and i have removed the module from the case but i cannot pull the pcb from the switch plate.

[thorn zealot]

There’s screws connecting pcb and plate my mans

[dapper pond]

i unscrewed those

its not coming off

[thorn zealot]

Can u take a vid by chance

Or a pic of the bottom of pcb

[dapper pond]

the switches have flared switch prongs. i think this is what is making it hard to pull off. any help/ideas would be greatly appreciated.

The flarred ends of the prongs are the only thing sticking out of the pcb.

I cant get these to come out when i try pulling it apart

ive also tried a switch puller but I am chipping plastic off the switches

[fallen pecan]

push them out from the bottom

[robust siren]

it seems like you can squeeze the ends and then push it out

[dapper pond]

What should I use to do this? Is this normal for these switches?

[robust siren]

i dont have sticky rice switches (or whatever theyre named now) so i dont really know

[robust siren]

as for what to use, i dont know, probably not the best idea to use metal pliers on something so close to the pcb

[dapper pond]

ok whatever. im just gonna buy a new 60he lol. seems reasonable

[gaunt plume]

https://tenor.com/view/dokkan-battle-top-uss-universe-survival-saga-tournament-of-power-gif-6460735787541891250

[kind helm]

what are those

[gaunt plume]

Everglide Goku Switch
https://e.tb.cn/h.TDFtLwMTvYqtSLV?tk=AClieNKmgqz

[kind helm]

another switch with interesting name hehe

[gaunt plume]

Probably manufactured by HaiMu.

[fallen pecan]

someone did an rt test https://streamable.com/ey884g

[quasi hinge]

Can someone translate

Or which switch is best

[glacial wind]

That’s the one that was posted other day

Tldr mt taishan switches didn’t live up to expectations and ttc rgb/pom still more stable

[quasi hinge]

Thank you kind sir

[untold wigeon]

Are there any HE switches that are more on the thocky side? I have Gateron Jades and they're fine but I want more of a thock rather than a clack

[sour flower]

What would guys categorize this sound as (try to ignore the intermittent hollow wasd has since been fixed)

[peak breach]

400g springs?

[sour flower]

Yes

I dunno if I should call that thocky or something else

[robust siren]

this guy is 10x my weight class

https://tenor.com/view/cat-looking-away-gif-26704349

[ionic breach]

for me its just very foamy

[sour flower]

Interesting

It's stock foam just like 2 layers of 3 different kinds of tape

[ionic breach]

its not low pitched like a normal thocky mx

its just soft and very dispersed sounds

like foam

[sour flower]

HE thock

Theck

It's thecky

[ionic breach]

faux thock ya lmao

[sour flower]

I'm trademarking that

tHEcky

[sour flower]

I think the heavy af springs do this just cause the keys physically don't bottom out as fast but honestly not sure, jades sounded similar but significantly clackier than the ttc poms

[ionic breach]

what switches are those btw?

[sour flower]

Ttc poms

[ionic breach]

dafuq

thats ttc?

[sour flower]

Yea

400g bag lubed springs and hand lubed

[ionic breach]

damn thats low key impressive

yea must be the springs

[sour flower]

The wasd is the same lubing but using 100g bag lubed wooting springs

Or was cause now they are 400g as well

[sacred elm]

400g💀

[robust siren]

that’s what i’m saying

[ionic breach]

i swear beeva had a 1.6

i thought he meant 160 that time

[sour flower]

Wat

[sour flower]

Wdym lol

[ionic breach]

lemme find it

its a long time ago so i might be misremembering

#🌟│wooting80he message

[sour flower]

This was the jades btw

[sour flower]

O yea that's a standard mx spring tho

[ionic breach]

yea ofc

he springs and switches are weirder

[sour flower]

I think my mic was way closer to the keyboard for.the jade sound test

Definitely sounds less foamy tho

[sour flower]

Yep, i still don't 100% understand why they sound so different

Ud think it'd be closer than it is

[ionic breach]

idk

i really want an actual keyboard designer to look into this

because its not like wooting or any he makers/designers are experienced in case designing or any mounting in that matter

[sour flower]

Isn't it more likely to do with pcb structure being different

Or the hunk of metal in the switch

[ionic breach]

switch probably

but the case itself being very gamery aint helping either

[sour flower]

I mean, maybe?

[sour flower]

Didn't the 60he have a ton of aftermarket cases and still sound quite different to mx

[ionic breach]

lmao or they can just switch to inductive

yea the switches is still the main issue

[sour flower]

I don't understand the selling point of inductive, I saw the more power efficient claim but like how much power does 8khz 80he even pull

[ionic breach]

enuf to make wireless impossible

inductive you can be wireless if you want to take it outside and do work

[sacred elm]

wireless

[ionic breach]

but plug it back for gaming

inductive also just sounds better

[sour flower]

How long would he last on 1 khz

[ionic breach]

it only has like 2 switches rn

and its already better

[sour flower]

Do u have a link for the sound?

The one test I heard was relatively underwhelming

[ionic breach]

https://youtu.be/CsktD0QCgGo?t=376

its like literary the first few switches

compared to lets say lekker v1s, this is great

[sour flower]

It sounds similar to what we have now in he

I dunno if that sounds noticeably better than some jade pros or raptor or something

[ionic breach]

yea, im really curious how much better it can be

considering how new this type is

[sour flower]

HE doesn't seem to have a proper thock switch

If inductive can do that that'd be good i guess

Altho I'd rather have my placebo 8khz

[ionic breach]

all i ask is the 80he to have a nicely built case

the 60 has its salvs, frogs, optimum and all that

wishing they will make a nice ass collab case for the 80

[sour flower]

I don't really have a problem with the zinc alloy

[ionic breach]

sound wise im already happy with the raws

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Have u tried 400g springs in ur raws tho

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yea if not ill just stick to black zinc and maybe get it engraved down the line

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nah lmao

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I got the white one but yea

I wish the feet were flush with the case tho

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idm it actually

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The 10 degree guys just sit so awkwardly

It's not an actual issue by any means I can't see it

But I know it's there

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im fine with it, its easier to take out and swap

some people also hate the non matching colour but idgaf

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No I mean they like hang over the edge on the outside

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yea

but its a good place to grab and take it out

[sour flower]

They'd be easy to take out either way I think but fair I guess

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https://www.instagram.com/benzjr/?hl=en

i wonder if i can do this to a e coated zinc case

[sour flower]

My wallet hurts now

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thats probably what ill do if a good 80 case never comes lmao

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That looks painful

On the money

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lmao it probably is