🔧│keyboard_modding

[glacial wind]

Oh cargo fit is coming back into fashion I guess

Not long until we’re back to zip offs

[harsh dove]

[fluid ravine]

Shii

Esp pants for me

Like dressing/formal pants

I wear a 29/30x34

Mom struggling to find pants those size like in stores

[glacial wind]

oh found it in some chinese hm80 tests, it was around .005 or so so you remembered right

so ttc rgb/pom is around 0.005, regular kom 0.007-0.008 and jade pro/duhuk in that 0.011-0.013 range

[quasi hinge]

Do you guys have the flux measurement of kom pom vs duhuk

Haha just posted it

[glacial wind]

yeah aligner posted. Duhuk was 0.013 and pom is around 0.005 or so

[quasi hinge]

Perfect, this is all I need for the ‘duhuks better’

Duhuks KOF (King of Flux)

[harsh dove]

Oh okay, nice, thank you for confirming

[thorn zealot]

What does flux mean again

So more flux more wobble?

[glacial wind]

roughly speaking yeah, but it's also magnet tolerances and such, but for simplicity sake you can think of it as wobble

so less flux = more stable basically

[thorn zealot]

Is there a big diff between .013 and .005

Like in person

[glacial wind]

it's fairly minor, basically it's what the chinese seem to fit into 0.02 vs 0.01 capable switches

so jade pro they rate at 0.02 capable and kom/jade gaming or lower they rate as 0.01 capable

[thorn zealot]

So it’s just that Poms technically have less wobble

But irl it’s almost negligible

[glacial wind]

kinda but if both switches are box stem it's more noticable

[thorn zealot]

Yeah that too

[glacial wind]

because you can hear and feel the box stem moving, so differences in stability are more pronounced with box stem switches

[stone flax]

🤮

[marsh saffron]

In other words nothing to really care about

[thorn zealot]

Gotchu

[glacial wind]

it's why I don't like jade gaming or similar level box stems because the box stem feel is more pronounced

[stone flax]

age old debate: values no one will perceptibly care about vs. better sound and feel

💔

[harsh dove]

Yeah TTC has the tightest box stem by far

[stone flax]

Time to buy poms

[glacial wind]

yeah it's not super important, but it's also why I don't compare box stems vs box stems in the first place

[calm pulsar]

MX better

[stone flax]

Duhuk closer to mx than poms

all i care about

[thorn zealot]

Ok thanks for explanation

I think some ppl are over exaggerating the diff

[sacred elm]

you dont even have them

🤡

[calm pulsar]

after running HE for so long and finally trying out a proper MX build I feel like HE is still cope for the best feel and sound😭

[stone flax]

how else will you warrant a box switch feeling plasticky and having nonexistent lube job for 90 cents

[glacial wind]

it's not like you can't enjoy both switches. People just being elitist weenies about each others switch choices

there's really no need to go full 'lord of the flies' about switch choices. People can buy both and use both depending on which usage or preference they have

[harsh dove]

Yep, I use both

Using my 80HE with POMs rn

That's also why I named myself The Switch Maxxer cause I don't choose a side lol, I appreciate all switches

[thorn zealot]

Common sense

Should be

[stone flax]

type shi

[glacial wind]

yeah there's no reason you can't have one board with duhuks when you want more mellowed sound and no box stem feel and another board with ttc pom for when you want max stability. The entire 'i need to shame everyone and start fights if they don't have my same gear preferences' is loserville behaviour

[stone flax]

virtue signal harder

https://tenor.com/view/10foot-pole-high-horse-arrogant-gif-10461828

[tidal frigate]

Raeds...

[calm pulsar]

having 1 HE and 1 MX better

[tawdry tree]

I can’t man

[sacred elm]

get out

[tawdry tree]

My brother

[glacial wind]

that's actually what i do, except i have 2 he and 1 mx lol

[tidal frigate]

[calm pulsar]

https://tenor.com/view/get-out-angry-speaking-head-tuco-squidward-gif-13808874276609302886

[harsh dove]

I have 1 MX and like 4 HE

[glacial wind]

i use the 80he for box stem, 60he for my non box stems and my mx boards for whatever fun mx switches i want to try

[harsh dove]

^

Basically what I have rn

[tawdry tree]

Salv, Woot, HM, Raven, Battle, Gamakay

[calm pulsar]

might get a board for each actuation step

[tidal frigate]

I know you cant handle raeds shafie. They are too good for u

[calm pulsar]

0.1, 0.2 etc

[tawdry tree]

Looting!

[stone flax]

wish bump was stronger

weak dome

boo

[harsh dove]

I wanna try FR4 in the 80HE still

with these POMmies

[tawdry tree]

two true statements is all I see

;)

[tidal frigate]

Anyone tried to make Concrete plate. For sience

[glacial wind]

i have to go back to pc plate for a bit to record sound test stuff

[stone flax]

fr

[calm pulsar]

still doesnt include "jade knights better"

[tawdry tree]

🗣️🗣️

[calm pulsar]

[stone flax]

whos buying the two dollar ttc switches with qr codes

They apparently have 0.0023428222 flux

[glacial wind]

i think i'll just permanently install the stock stabs on my pc plate so i can just quick swap easier

[tawdry tree]

true actually, monochromes > ON PAR TTC STABILITY?!

[stone flax]

[tawdry tree]

jade knight better
monochromes better

updated.

[calm pulsar]

yeah and let's not mention the cost of frankens hehe

[tidal frigate]

Wooting has to get into food business with some candy shop as collab

[harsh dove]

More than POMs

[tawdry tree]

hey, monos with the lucifer bottom cost a lil less than POMs do

😂

[harsh dove]

Ah yeah Lucifers are cheaper

[calm pulsar]

true

[harsh dove]

instead of Black Jades

[tawdry tree]

Raws x Lucifers 🔥🔥

can’t beat the full geon

[calm pulsar]

thankfully my ttc rgbs didnt ship, I refunded and funnelled my new rabbit hole

[tawdry tree]

geon maxxxxing

[tidal frigate]

Geon raw + l100 spring

[harsh dove]

Bro going retro

[glacial wind]

do switches get taxed whenever the us vs china tariff thing goes into effect?

[harsh dove]

Idk tbh

[thorn zealot]

How do u monochromes again

[tidal frigate]

Well anything made in china

So propably only for americans

[tawdry tree]

for open bottom it’s black knight stem and bottom housing with Raw HE’s top.

[stone flax]

is this 0.005

[tawdry tree]

for closed bottom it’s Lucifer’s stem and bottom housing with Raw HE’s top.

[calm pulsar]

I have these bad boys shipping to me so yeah xd
gta 3 disc is even still sealed since like 00s lol

[harsh dove]

Old GTA art goes so hard

that's dope

[glacial wind]

i think they have temporary halt on it too, but who knows when that expires

osume was having a sale recently because they also have no idea when US starts charging the tax

[calm pulsar]

wdym

[tidal frigate]

Wonder if wooting is going to charge 25% on americans

[tawdry tree]

it’s import tax so no

but tax will be taken

[calm pulsar]

yeah wooting sells from US warehouses technically

[glacial wind]

it depends on if parts are made in china and how it lines up with tariff stuff, it's complicated

[tawdry tree]

US only put tariffs on china?

[tidal frigate]

No

[tawdry tree]

I thought it was just import tax all around

[tidal frigate]

Mexico, canada and eu

[glacial wind]

geon for example has tax on any shipments from his store to US, but it's temporarily halted even though it's 'active' right now

[tawdry tree]

:(

[tidal frigate]

[calm pulsar]

get duhuks while you can people

[tawdry tree]

real

[glacial wind]

it's all a mess where no one knows when things will suddenly be active

probably doesn't help that the tariff keeps getting implemented then delayed every month lol

at least canada isn't shipped from US warehouse so they escape any issues with wooting stuff

[tidal frigate]

Well Americans gonna have issues alone

Because everything is made either in eu or in china

[glacial wind]

I wish I had followed my thinking and invested in ThyssenKrupp lol

i was wondering if all the EU defense companies were about to explode because of all the nonsense and seems like they did

[quasi hinge]

But if you have 1 board, TTC POM

[calm pulsar]

exploded as in got a financial boost or the opposite?

[glacial wind]

all the EU defense companies stock skyrocketed

up like 20% in past week, some up 100% in past month

since EU is rearming themselves now

[calm pulsar]

WW3 investment guide

[quasi hinge]

That ended so well the last time

[calm pulsar]

people reacting with ❌ but TTC are made in China too

[quasi hinge]

Sorry if I had to choose 1 of the 2…

I only have 1 HE board now

Ttc poms all the way

[calm pulsar]

I see you edited "now" in

[cyan lark]

If I only had one board I’d use Poms

[calm pulsar]

time to get an MX board

[glacial wind]

where's that copypasta

[cyan lark]

If I had 3 they all would

[quasi hinge]

Haha same

[harsh dove]

Time to stop buying products from other countries

[glacial wind]

"If TTC Pom has a million fans, then I am one of them. If TTC Pom has ten fans, then I am one of them. If TTC Pom has only one fan then that is me. If TTC Pom has no fans, then that means I am no longer on earth. If the world is against TTC Pom, then I am against the world."

• Pom Maxxing

[harsh dove]

I'll make USA Made Switches

[quasi hinge]

Preach brother preach

[quasi hinge]

Steal KoMs recipe pls

[harsh dove]

They'll be red white and blue

[glacial wind]

that would be a hilarious timeline

cam gets rich abitraging ttc switches due to the trade war

[harsh dove]

My Switch Arc

[cyan lark]

No blend of those either because these colors don’t run 🫡

[calm pulsar]

homemade better

[cyan lark]

Make a switch just for us talls

[harsh dove]

Tall Boy Switches

[cyan lark]

Tall boys long throws

[glacial wind]

i almost did that with bitcoin for awhile actually, but it was a lot of investment and paperwork to run back and forth doing it. It's nicknamed 'kimchi premium' because you could buy bitcoin outside of korea then bring it into korea and sell it for 10%-20% more

[cyan lark]

lol Mikey knows what he’s doing

[harsh dove]

kimchi premium lol

[fluid ravine]

trustworthy advertisement

w

[calm pulsar]

wow such content

[fluid ravine]

unfalse advertisement

[glacial wind]

it's actually how sam bankman fried got rich initiallly, except he did it with US to Japan bitcoin trading

[sacred elm]

Incredible Wetness out of the Box!

[calm pulsar]

wet maxxing

[fluid ravine]

such pickled switch! (referring to kimchi)

[harsh dove]

Damn that's crazy, I didn't know of this

[cyan lark]

I haven’t watched it yet but it’s like laser targeted at folks driving up here daily

Yeah he arbitraged the exchange rates

Till they fixed the glitch

[glacial wind]

yeah nowadays there's way more regulations and such as governments stepped in to make it much harder to do

[cyan lark]

At least that was legal

Just kinda dumb and opportunistic but money is money

[harsh dove]

Yeah, just a tool

[glacial wind]

the side effect is it's still a gigantic pain in the butt now to open bank accounts as foreigner in korea

[cyan lark]

Oh interesting

[glacial wind]

they did all that as one of things to stop everyone from abitraging bitcoin here lol

[harsh dove]

Damn

[cyan lark]

As someone who just went through TSA, it just takes one dickhead to make life miserable for millions for decades

[glacial wind]

oh yeah i still avoid flying through US whenever possible after my one experience at LAX

[tidal frigate]

I asked him if hes doing raeds test. And he did

[glacial wind]

why is the video 32 minutes

[harsh dove]

I remember one time they pulled me aside cause they thought my portable speaker was a bomb

[fallen pecan]

a lot of switches, he covered most of the mainstream ones

[tidal frigate]

Dunno

[harsh dove]

I wasn't even mad tbh

better safe than sorry ig

[calm pulsar]

explaining what thock is maybe

[stone flax]

Raeds glaze session

[cyan lark]

I guess. You’re more chill than most.

[harsh dove]

Yeah it didn't bother me tbh

I wasn't late or anything

[tidal frigate]

@glacial wind it has all he switches as comparasion

[glacial wind]

oh. his watchthrough rate is going to suck

[calm pulsar]

https://tenor.com/view/alan-jackson-good-time-time-for-a-good-time-country-music-gif-15915805480376474592

[harsh dove]

If anything I kinda just laughed at the whole experience

[stone flax]

:3

this mx build is fire

[calm pulsar]

oi I was replying

[stone flax]

sorry cro 💔

[cyan lark]

It certainly could be worse. Once got some special attention in a Kenyan airport and the cops there carry AKs. Slightly sweaty

[harsh dove]

[calm pulsar]

insane keycap set

[cyan lark]

Yessir nosir

[harsh dove]

I have a set like that

darker blue though

[quasi hinge]

Try NK

[cyan lark]

lol no thank you

[glacial wind]

once you've experienced singapore airport you can never go back

[cyan lark]

Pleasant?

[glacial wind]

in and out in 5 mins since it's 90% automated gates

[thorn zealot]

@fluid ravine i have some news for u

[fluid ravine]

wsp

[glacial wind]

really easy to do quick layover and hop into the giant waterfall jewel mall next to airport for a bit

[silk hound]

Will be there this coming summer!

pretty stoked to see the water fall

[glacial wind]

it's super nice

[cyan lark]

Sound luxe

[fluid ravine]

ohhhh FUCK YOU

made me check and everything

[thorn zealot]

i didnt say it was good news

[calm pulsar]

I'm jelaous of yall cause I've ever been only to Ukraine and Kazakhstan which aren't even "abroad" I would say😭

but at least im going to a vacation to Turkey

[fluid ravine]

grrrrrrrrrrrrrr

[thorn zealot]

u actually believed my editing too

or no

[harsh dove]

This the one I have

[calm pulsar]

oh is that NCS or whatever theyre called

[cyan lark]

Blue on white is purdy

[glacial wind]

it is definitely quite a pleasant visit before flight

[fluid ravine]

grrrrrrrrrrr

it's march

im suspecting

[cyan lark]

Wow I thought that was AI at first glance

[harsh dove]

I don’t even remember tbh lol it was from Tirade

[thorn zealot]

its my google slide editing skills

[cyan lark]

Now these are wet taps

[calm pulsar]

roof leaking

[harsh dove]

I’ve travelled a ton inside the U.S. but haven’t got outside yet , I plan to these next few years

[glacial wind]

the food court is even crazier because there's a giant glass surrounding thing in the basement surrounded by the food shops

[harsh dove]

I actually got my passport recently

[glacial wind]

so you see the water flow down the glass before it goes back up top again

[tidal frigate]

@glacial wind do they have Polish food?

[calm pulsar]

that's great
mine was ready for a year and I only collected it recently lol

where you planning to go?

[harsh dove]

Everywhere

lol idk yet

[glacial wind]

i don't think so actually, might be one of the few that isn't widespread in asia

[calm pulsar]

I want to go to Korea and Japan soon, also Europe if the conflict is resolved hopefully

[harsh dove]

Right yeah, waiting for things to settle down lol

[tidal frigate]

There is no war in european union

[calm pulsar]

well it's true, it's just for me it would be easier to get visas and stuff if the conflict ever ends lol

[tidal frigate]

Weird

Can't you enter eu visa free?

[calm pulsar]

we have consulates functioning so it is possible to apply for visas, but I think there are fees and stuff, and to be approved I'd have to present tickets back, hotel reservations etc

[tidal frigate]

I dont think so it is required unless you are from country with weak passport

[calm pulsar]

just learned of this term lol
Russia seems to be 45th in the rating😭

actually this index is weird

[glacial wind]

singapore do be having a good passport, and you can buy it for a price too

just become multimillionaire

[cyan lark]

Shoulda thought of that years ago!

[glacial wind]

for a mere investment of $2.5 million you can have a singapore passport too

[tidal frigate]

Try this https://www.passportindex.org/byRank.php

[calm pulsar]

I work for a Singapore based company, they should cut me some slack when I apply to visas

[harsh dove]

not bad

[glacial wind]

just you better have another $100k leftover to buy your drivers license once you arrive

[calm pulsar]

rip

[harsh dove]

I mean if I got 2.5m I got 100k

[tidal frigate]

And where are you from

[harsh dove]

RUS

[tidal frigate]

Oh

So even you cant get passport

Unless you are rich

[glacial wind]

oh sorry, $106k to be exact

[harsh dove]

oh 106

idk if I can do that

[calm pulsar]

you mean a foreign one? I got one, it's a standard cheap fee

but visas is another thing lol

[tidal frigate]

Definetly you will need visa to enter europe

[calm pulsar]

yeah

[tidal frigate]

Or come on boat with migrants

[calm pulsar]

never was a fan of doing migration like that
if I were to do it I'd rather do it officially

[tawdry tree]

https://youtu.be/HsIYbLFogr8&t=21m09s 🤔 is lubing the dome like that fine? 😬

[calm pulsar]

da hell

[tawdry tree]

the rails I understand but the dome is supposed to be stuck to the stem afaik

[calm pulsar]

what does this even mean😭
as if topre is some brand

[tawdry tree]

not sliding against it

[calm pulsar]

yeah my initial thought as well

[glacial wind]

i think he's a/b testing titles

although to be blunt both titles suck

if I clicked either and got to a 32 min video of switch tests i'd click out so fast

[tropic urchin]

He might as well have made it: “Raeds make it sound like WHAT??!” With a picture of Hipyo soy face thumbnail

Holy titlegore

[calm pulsar]

I was told this keyboard sounds like.... thock??? (reverb effect)

[tropic urchin]

even that would be light years over w/e the one you linked was

[glacial wind]

the problem is hipyos videos do well because they deliver on the title and story, even if I dislike his takes he's as least consistent with title thumbnail

[tropic urchin]

all he needs is to dump some kinetic sand in his 80he and sand the edges and he has his own hiypo video clone

[glacial wind]

this video of mikeys is kind of in rough land because he essentially made a 32 min switch testing video that's boring, but he's trying to clickbait attention to it using title/thumbnail

which just hurts algo even more because his watch rate will tank because the video is so far from promised title

[calm pulsar]

to me Glarses is the real goat of content that is past keyboards
while Hipyo just keeps reviewing boring chinese boards, alternating between CREAMIEST and THOCKIEST keyboards

the same goes for Switch and Click, but they also started doing some other stuff I believe

[glacial wind]

yeah glarses is smart. He realizes it's about the entertainment and not so much about the keyboard

so he just makes entertaining keyboard adjacent adventures

[calm pulsar]

yeah, and all that while still having the tastiest fanciest keyboard builds in the background, as a homage to his keyboard nerd past

[lament crane]

While his video looks and feels bloated, at least MikeyTypes did covered a different [Tactile HE] switch design along side a subset of HE linears. Hopefully more switch companies like AEboards explore and experiment with actually different HE switch designs in the future.

[tawdry tree]

His vids are overall good I’d say. There are things to improve and I think he’s burdening himself with a sound test of multiple recolors back to back but good nonetheless.

[glacial wind]

it's just new youtuber stuff, he'll figure it out eventually

the irony is being less clickbaity on a boring video will improve his videos performance because it removes the click throughs that will abandon the video early

[lament crane]

It is also just nice to see someone cover a non-linear HE switch for a change, which are currently rare occasions within the current HE keyboard space.

[tawdry tree]

Yeah, to be fair though, there aren’t decent tactile switches out currently. Many interesting switches though, I’m sure he’ll try some others like Duhuks and the mountain switch.

Non-linear for Raeds is a good description.

They’re really much more towards linear than they are tactile.

[lament crane]

I have "tried" some Raed HEs on my Wooting Two HE, and I do see what you mean when you spam key in quick sucession or slowly actuate it when using analog output, it does lean towards being linear; though, at least they do actually feel somewhat tactile while casually typing which is more than what I can say for Brown-Like switches.

[kind helm]

whats interesting about the tai switch?

[tawdry tree]

Your average brown switch has a way more pronounced bump than Raeds do. With Raeds you do feel the dome collapsing which causes the slight “tactile” feel but still not even close to Outemu magnetic Browns for example.

[tawdry tree]

big box

two part

stable

[fallen pecan]

ttc kom rgb vs everglide wukong vs taishan https://streamable.com/ey884g

[sacred elm]

kom on top

daishan

[chilly mural]

from the test, yeh

0.005 is soo low

[kind helm]

what we feeling about 9070xt

5000rmb is less than 1k dolla

lookin kinda good

[autumn pike]

I was going to buy an aftermarket stabs but ended up relubing the stock plate mount stabs and replacing it with better wire and it sounds pretty good. Switch is Lekker60, was pressing it from left to right and it sounds consistent

[harsh dove]

It's a solid card but I fear pricing might hurt it

They wanted to do $650

[kind helm]

the marked price for RMB seems good but yea probably will not actually see a card at the price they marked

650 for a 4080super in 2025

not bad

[harsh dove]

Right yeah, if you can get it at MSRP, solid, but once you get into that $700-800+ range, loses its value

[kind helm]

at least we can say better than whatever nvidia is cooking up for the 5000 serie though

LOL

[harsh dove]

Ideally, it should've been $549 imo

Yeah 50 series is sad

and I wanted a 5090 but now I just feel bad for people who own one lol

[autumn pike]

I kinda regret not selling my 4080S not long ago lol

Someone was willing to pay $1,400 for it like a month ago

[harsh dove]

Nah that's a good card

Yeah the prices went up

[autumn pike]

I could have sold it and purchased 9070 XT since I'm only like 10 mins away from Micro Centerr

[harsh dove]

cause of the limited availablity of 50 series

Oh, I'd rather have the 4080S over the 9070XT personally

[autumn pike]

True, that DLSS really is something

[harsh dove]

Yeah

[autumn pike]

But in terms of raw performance even 7900 XTX goes toe to toe with 4080S

[harsh dove]

FSR is making some nice strides though, getting a lot better

[autumn pike]

Reason why I bought 4080S is just to play Wukong at 4k and after I finished the game 100% I haven't played anything at all lol

[harsh dove]

Oh okay lol , I never finished Wukong yet

[autumn pike]

I was thinking of downgrading and selling my whole set up and just build SFF instead I hate my PC rn it'so damn bulky on my desk

[harsh dove]

Yeah I think of that too sometimes, not downgrade but smaller form factor

or put it on a stand on the ground

[autumn pike]

I have a decent GPU for sff I have the ASUS 4080S ProArt which is perfect for SFF but I made a bad decision and went with a bigger case

Didn't expect Lian-Li Dynamic XL to be an absolute unit

Pain in the butt to carry it and clean it

[glacial wind]

hrm that's surprising, mt tai didn't do so well

[harsh dove]

Yeah, seems better than Wukong, but not better than the KOMs

[glacial wind]

that's a bit disappointing if their whole deal was beating everyone in stability and it lost to the koms still

[sacred elm]

daishan

[glacial wind]

seems the mountain was higher than mt tai

[harsh dove]

Laishan

[sacred elm]

sound is mid too, also you cant even open that switch

absolute joke

[calm pulsar]

nah mount tuah on top

[harsh dove]

I'll see how they are when I get em, they were fairly cheap

[calm pulsar]

im expecting a new church to assemble soon

once they become more available

[harsh dove]

I already know the next church

[sacred elm]

there is only one church

[harsh dove]

I just don't have a name for it yet

[calm pulsar]

%new_switch_name% church

[harsh dove]

Yeah

[harsh dove]

Hmm title and background look awfully familiar

[sacred elm]

LMAO

[calm pulsar]

cheater church dropped

[glacial wind]

i like to think there is some quiet lurker here with too much money who bought the ttc snake pom switches and he's silently patting himself on the back for being more stabilized than all of us

[harsh dove]

oh you beat me

[sacred elm]

im faster

[harsh dove]

Oh forsure

There's def some Switch Pocket Watchers in here

no doubt

[glacial wind]

he secretly reads chat and thinks "this silly talks about stability. None of them even match up to my ttc snakes"

[harsh dove]

"and they paid a mere $1 per switch... ha.. casuals"

[sacred elm]

lol

its me...

[glacial wind]

it's funny how pricing just gets weighted to whatever each group thinks is normal

[calm pulsar]

admit it sno, this guy is you

[glacial wind]

meanwhile even talking about spending more than $100-120 on an entire keyboard to normie friends and they'll think you're insane

[glacial wind]

i wish. I spend all my money on overpriced filming equipment now

[kind helm]

i feel like people who got ttc snake would not use wooting

with wooting its harder to take full advantage of that stability you get

[glacial wind]

no one buying half the switches cares about what is actually used in most situations

[harsh dove]

Literally

[sacred elm]

we dont even take full advantage of poms either

but here we are

[kind helm]

idk i see a lot chinese people maxing like crazy

[sacred elm]

half modding channel with poms

[harsh dove]

Yeah ngl the stuff we nitpick and talk about here is so niche lol

[sacred elm]

investment in future

[harsh dove]

it like doesn't matter to most users

[sacred elm]

when simon decides to add 0.04 rapid trigger in march 2030

[glacial wind]

that's just side effect of being immersed in that space

[harsh dove]

tbh it doesn't even matter to half of us

[glacial wind]

reality is all of it is super niche

[harsh dove]

we are a very small minority

[glacial wind]

like in my friend group of people who actually use their gear for min/max stuff, it include several valorant pros and champions and they barely care about keyboard stuff in the slightest

[harsh dove]

Yeah

[glacial wind]

the ones like tenz who actually care are in the minority

[harsh dove]

Most will just use their sponsors keyboard and call it a day

I doubt any pros have TTCs in their board rn

[calm pulsar]

casuals

[sacred elm]

casuals

[kind helm]

yea there is a clip of smoggy from edg telling people he is cope

[harsh dove]

Yeah that's the other thing too, HE is still new to a lot of people

[glacial wind]

one of my friends who literally plays games all day and is an emmy award winning esports personality uses a cheap $25 keyboard he bought when he moved to korea many years ago lol

and he represents what most of the regulars are like - they'll just use whatever cheapie gaming keyboard they have until it breaks

[harsh dove]

Right yeah lol, reminds me of the pro's who use apple headphones and a dongle but then you got kids spendings hundreds and thousands on audio gear to hear footsteps

It's like half the stuff that gets marketed to gamers, pro's don't even use but yet people wanna be like them

[kind helm]

people who buy gaming headphones hurt my soul

[glacial wind]

man you could do such a crazy good ad campaign actually if you were wooting marketing. There's so many viral angles you could take

[calm pulsar]

used to be me until I tried Sennheiser HD560S open backs

[harsh dove]

Yeah I mean we've all been there until we learn better

I used to have me a lil racer gaming chair and some Astro A50s

[glacial wind]

i don't know who wooting is eventually hiring for their marketing lead but whoever it is I hope he capitalizes on the video marketing angles that are out there still

[harsh dove]

Could take the LC Sign approach but instead of politics, it's about other switches

Tony cracks me up ngl

[calm pulsar]

"Did you know Raeds is the thockies-- DON'T CARE"

[kind helm]

the two things that make me scared of the word "gaming", chair and headphones

[harsh dove]

gaming keyboard too

just means it has lights

[glacial wind]

you could do an entire long format series of $5k amd makeover like LLT, but based around gaming influencers who still use old keyboards

[harsh dove]

That'd be pretty neat

[kind helm]

mr arc extreme gaming MX switch

hehehe

[glacial wind]

you'd sell so many keyboards because HE advantages are still unknown to normies and it would blow their mind in person

[calm pulsar]

or Gamer's Nexus kinda investigations into gateron recolors

[calm pulsar]

1.0mm actuation 3.0mm travel

[quasi hinge]

Sno gets it

In the game I play, we (our squad) all switched to wooting

We are half decent and win a number of matches

Others started asking what setups we use

When we told them about wooting they had no idea

Sent them optimum tech video

Now many players thanked us and some got wootings but some were finding cheaper HE brands not as good

But it spread like wild fire 🔥

Once you go he, at least for fps, hard to go back IMO

[quasi hinge]

Here is my receipt, 7,833 games lmao

and that is low compared to some others

[quasi hinge]

For anyone confused, cod mobile has an officially supported emulator, Gameloop, that lets you play with other PC players or has mixed

[fallen pecan]

https://x.com/sikakeyb/status/1897908726591533311 nasty

Sikakeyb (@sikakeyb) on X

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X · Mar 7, 2025, 7:14 AM

[polar girder]

Two biggest things that make the biggest difference tho

[jade narwhal]

gaming headphones

[polar girder]

Gaming “audiophile” headphones

[glacial wind]

Oof, I feel this design is early 2000 chunky gaming days

Gaming aesthetic really changed from those early days

[chilly mural]

Mmm, $200. It's alright I guess if the software is good.

[languid kestrel]

that's so cringe-looking

[glossy pagoda]

Tenz is quite the brand ambassador for Wooting

[sweet oak]

TenZ and Calder 1v1 when

[glacial wind]

Tenz edition 80he needed too

[tawdry tree]

missed every mark with this one 🔥

[wintry yew]

Which switches are best for 60he, what people using most?

For gaming

[sacred elm]

ttc pom on top

[wintry yew]

Does rappid trigger work on them ?

[quasi hinge]

yes of course

[tawdry tree]

Depends on your budget. ;)

[wintry yew]

But you cant adjust activation point right ?

[tawdry tree]

Yeah

You can!

The features come from the board itself, not the magnetic switches.

So the features will stay the same whichever compatible magnetic switches you use.

[wintry yew]

Oh

So ttc kom/pom are probably best ones out there rn i guess ?

[quasi hinge]

I have ttc pom and I play a lot as you can see

I would put them on any board I would build rn

they are very stable and the spring back is nice

I have the og poms though

they are a little lighter than the wooting poms

[tawdry tree]

In terms of stability, yes, however the benefits are minimal to a point you won’t notice it.

I’d choose a switch based on the sound profile you’re looking for.

[sacred elm]

If you're not going to hand lube, choose other switches

They are dry and sound very plasticky without hand lube

[quasi hinge]

Personally and IMO, I disagree, you can definitely feel the difference

[quasi hinge]

This is something to consider

Ttc poms need to be hand lubed as they have basically no factory lube

[wintry yew]

I can lube them that is not prob

[quasi hinge]

Then go for wooting or og ttc poms

https://milktooth.com/products/switches/pom-magneto?srsltid=AfmBOooQ2fetmi-bewZ8neuRgCwcX0CWC5heesr471iNqrEC7bvlzLos

I got these

But wooting are just as good, just a bit heavier

[sacred elm]

Alright, then if you are ok spending 90$ for switches get wooting poms or regular ttc poms and lube them

[tawdry tree]

The difference in wobble compared to really wobbly switches can be noticed of course. Between switches like Jade Gaming or monochromes, it’s not noticeable at all. Even the sound TTC’s make when you wobble them is not something you can really hear unless you’re holding them next to your ear.

Duhuks

same same

Patience 😌

SoonTM always.

[harsh dove]

I agree with that, that’s why it’s important to remember there is no “best” as we used to always say cause not everyone is looking for the same thing, some don’t care about sound and want max stability and/or just a switch that feels good. Some may not care nor even notice a difference in stability or are as sensitive to it as others and just want a good sounding switch out of the box, etc etc

[sacred elm]

One thing I noticed after switching to POMs is less deadzone. Its actually noticeable in games like OSU for example

[quasi hinge]

He did ask for an FPS use case and I do admittedly play a lot. I gone through a number of switches already except jade pros and sigh duhuks.

100% its personal preference

[tawdry tree]

Duhuks too loud for gaming imo 🤣

[quasi hinge]

But when someone asks me regarding gaming, sound would be secondary

[tawdry tree]

or any other scenario where you need to be able to hear yourself think

[tawdry tree]

yeah

[sacred elm]

Even in CS2, I never really lifted my W key accidentally when I was using jade pros, but with poms its actually like hair trigger

[tawdry tree]

you can, I know those older gaming keyboards came with rubberized keycaps.

[harsh dove]

I don’t mind Duhuks for gaming, but they wouldn’t be my go to I think

I like them for typing tho

I prefer POMs for gaming

[tawdry tree]

yeah

[quasi hinge]

What would be your choice for only gaming consideration and if the person was willing to lube, sound being secondary?

[quasi hinge]

Got the answer, ty

[harsh dove]

Haha

I was gonna say

[wintry yew]

Seems like people enjoying tcc poms alot 😂

[harsh dove]

Just an all around good feeling switch and if you don’t mind lubing

I personally don’t use RGB

But they are good

[quasi hinge]

I think its better on wootings

[harsh dove]

Yeah better on Wootings, the OG Poms give off red/purple hue

[sacred elm]

Yeah, they are so smooth and when you hand lube them they sound pretty nice.

Jade pros for example, if you pressed sides slowly they were scratchy as hell, these are buttery smooth

I can take the picture if you want

I have wooting poms

[quasi hinge]

Do it

Lets see haha

[prime orbit]

I gotta use my keyboard like this so my space bar doesn’t fly out

Dumb stabs.

[harsh dove]

[quasi hinge]

How is your wrist haha

[left depot]

esports gamer angle

[prime orbit]

Better than my space bar

I got beef with it now

[sacred elm]

RGB is better than my jade pros i think

[prime orbit]

Extra 5 fps

[harsh dove]

Did you end up ordering new stabs lol?

[prime orbit]

Ye I got long pole black v2

Knights

[harsh dove]

Ah okay nice

[prime orbit]

Only one in stock actually

So worked out

[harsh dove]

Yeah lol they hard to find sometimes

[prime orbit]

Must wait like 5 days tho

Yeah Unf v3 was in stock but reg only

Not long pile

Pole

[stone flax]

Use 205 doesnt need balancing tbh

[prime orbit]

Hm?

[stone flax]

For the stab

[prime orbit]

I know nothing about Stabs so no idea what that means

😭😭

[stone flax]

Do you have lube

[prime orbit]

No sir

[stone flax]

Get lube

[prime orbit]

They come lubed right….

[stone flax]

No

[harsh dove]

No they do not

[prime orbit]

[stone flax]

Get 205g0

[harsh dove]

You can pay to have them lubed from some companies

[prime orbit]

I legit don’t trust myself at all

[harsh dove]

It’s easy

[stone flax]

Knights are a very easy stab to tune

[harsh dove]

Check the video in #🪛│modding_faq

[prime orbit]

This one?

[harsh dove]

Yeah that’s fine or you can get Wootings lube kit that comes with 205 and Molykote

[stone flax]

sure ya

can also get from other vendors

[harsh dove]

Yeah

If you want

[prime orbit]

$25

Keyboards so expensive

[harsh dove]

lol yeah cost more but comes with more

Molykote would just be for the wires

205 for the plastic on plastic

[prime orbit]

I need this?

[stone flax]

No

[harsh dove]

You’ll need brushes but no you don’t need all of that

[stone flax]

No

Screwdriver

[harsh dove]

Well we’re talking about stabilizers

But for switches yeah you could use that kit or a screwdriver if you’re a masochist

[prime orbit]

Wait so I use the 205 for the whole stab? What’s the other one for?

[stone flax]

Stab wires

Knights dont really need grease tho

[harsh dove]

205 for plastic on plastic so the stem and the inner housing for the stabilizer and then the Molykote is for the ends of the wire that insert into the stabilizer stem/housing

[prime orbit]

I’m def gonna mess this up…

[harsh dove]

Just watch that video I referred too and you’ll be fine

[stone flax]

can always clean stabs and start again + you have way more lube than youll ever need for this

[prime orbit]

Oh wait I do need a new switch puller. The yellow plastic wooting one lowkey broke half my raw switches taking them out

[prime orbit]

Ah ok gotcha

[harsh dove]

You’ll need to remove the switches above the stabilizers , so yeah

[sacred elm]

One is mechanical, one is optical

[prime orbit]

Anything else?

[sacred elm]

With optical youre guaranteed to not have double clicks

[harsh dove]

Nah that should be all

[glacial wind]

Honestly the wooting lube may be heavy overkill if you’re getting knight v2 or similar new gen stabs

[harsh dove]

Yeah I always say less is more with these stabs

[stone flax]

Holy expensive lul

[harsh dove]

Go light

[stone flax]

just get 205 and a brush

For like

$20

Or less

[glacial wind]

Since it’s just full 205g0 on everything, the molykote and extra 205g0 might be going to waste

[sacred elm]

I havent tried ttc mouse clicks, but omron opticals feel good

currently have them in my beastx pro

[glacial wind]

Iirc the wooting one just gives you a huge amount of each lube, which is why it’s pricier, but it’s way more than you need just for one stab set

[harsh dove]

Yeah

[prime orbit]

?

[harsh dove]

That’s fine ^

[prime orbit]

Which brush is the right one lmao

[glacial wind]

Yeah that’s all you need besides switch puller if you don’t have one

[harsh dove]

Doesn’t matter really

Any brush

[glacial wind]

That brush is fine

[harsh dove]

I like the flat tip ones or I just cut them

[sacred elm]

I bought thinner brush from them, its good

wrong ping

oopsie

[prime orbit]

🫡

Or should I get this?

[ionic breach]

the metal one

[glacial wind]

i'm not a fan of those personally, but they can be really good if it works on your switch. Problem is some switches aren't 100% as compatible and it can scratch plate sometimes

[prime orbit]

OK I’ll do the first one then

[glacial wind]

i rather just use any of the manual pullers personally, even if it's slower

[prime orbit]

Yeah fair

[prime orbit]

Do I have to watch a kdrama for stab lubing too

[autumn pike]

Would there be any issues if I use Geon Raws on Alphas and Lekker L60 v2 on other keys? I'm still waiting for the rest of the GEON Raws

[glacial wind]

Always.

[prime orbit]

Fine

[sacred elm]

No issues

[glacial wind]

very interesting look but not for me

[ionic breach]

yea i like the holy60's design

they can be bad for sound but for me its cool enuf

though for the 80 rn i wouldnt get it because its not that close to the 60s design

[round sparrow]

i mean the holy 80 isnt even official yet

you saw a prototype

[last oar]

does the bakaneko60 case fit the wooting pcb?

lmao

nvm

usb port is in the middle on that case

[high sphinx]

I am curious when geon will release a new stable firmware

[ionic breach]

yea

its still very early so i hope they make some adjustments

but it would sell well either way

[stone flax]

No

[stone flax]

if u want center udb support go for venom

[fallen pecan]

https://streamable.com/ehkwrt scathing review

[glacial wind]

seems to be he just really dislikes the switch performance, which is to be expected - they're 2023 performance because they're 2023 level switches from performance level

[ionic breach]

oooh nice review ngl

[sacred elm]

L ekkers

[fallen pecan]

this review doesnt include the points from his latency, scanrate and polling tests. those would be added in a later tier list

lemme grab the overall tier list vid

[glacial wind]

seems it did well on polling and scan, met all their tests

[sacred elm]

tell him to test 80he with poms

[glacial wind]

just all the - marks were for switch performance related stuff or wooting not allowing below 0.1 start

[sacred elm]

that vid shows that lekkers are actual embarassment

20$ chinese keyboards are ahead

[sweet oak]

Any updates on crunchy sound chat

[vague wadi]

hello everyone iam new to wooting just got my 80he yesturday. and i cant stand the spacebar its rattle so much. so i am thinking about buying new switches. are this switches any good Magnetic Jade HE Linjär Switch. also what do i have to do to fix the rattle on the spacebar?

i have never ever modded a keyboard before so be nice 🙂

[fallen pecan]

https://streamable.com/djjvzi overall tier list

[ionic breach]

why is it in that format

[fallen pecan]

no idea lol

he likes the animation i guess

[glacial wind]

eh i'm skeptical of any reviews that put mm studio stuff up high honestly

means they heavily weighted just raw spec performance over software tested performance

[sacred elm]

am i blind, I cant see wooting there

[fallen pecan]

the wooting review was after this tier list, but wooting is dead last

[ionic breach]

rattle as in overall sound?

or you can hear the stabs rattling

[fallen pecan]

this 1st tier list is just for measured switch performance, basically incomplete

[vague wadi]

yeah. and only on the spacebar . i mean i can push the spacebar back and forth and it sounds so bad

[ionic breach]

i would recommend spacebar foam

or anything to fill in the larger empty space in the spacebar

[glacial wind]

yeah i imagine based on the way he reviews wooting is never going to rate anywhere on that list just due to lekker v2 and 0.1 starting actuation

will be dead last probably, even below madlions

[vague wadi]

but when i press the spacebar on the left side it sounds abit better then it sounds when i press on the right side

[ionic breach]

and https://discordapp.com/channels/167181566978555904/1103459740186595399 theres a guide here on tuning and lubing stabs

[ionic breach]

^

[round sparrow]

i was talking to drakon, i originally dmd kbd fans asking them if they could make a 80he they then told me they already had a prototype in the works. Drakon then somehow talking to them got a peek at the prototype but wasnt allowed to share it

[glacial wind]

i like his reviews for switch performance because he measures everything, but seems scuffed when applied to keyboards

[vague wadi]

can it be that i have to lube the stabilizers?

[ionic breach]

the vid would help with that

[ionic breach]

and or tune it yea

but spacebars tend to be more badly sounding in general

cos its big

[fallen pecan]

i'd give him a few more months to polish up his reviews, he started late last year i believe

[vague wadi]

wierd that the whole keyboard sounds so much better but the spacebar they havent fixed 😦

[ionic breach]

its pretty typical actually

especially for gaming brands

[fallen pecan]

yeah my spacebar rattles like a bitch on the right stab too, i just tune it out at this point

[ionic breach]

i only know one brand that has worked on filling the space

[vague wadi]

i cant stand it 😦

[glacial wind]

just got to do a self lube if you have rattle and want to fix it

balance spacebar and fix lube

[fallen pecan]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cGA4PVuT6ew

this guy fixed his

my spacebar sounds exactly like his before

[vague wadi]

same

and it makes me regret buying it. because for me its an expensive keyboard and it shouldent sound like this when you buy a 300 usd keyboard imo

[round sparrow]

well if its purely sound your after just go mechanical

hall effect keyboards will requiere some extra work to sound good

[ionic breach]

nah for stabs its the same

[fallen pecan]

his point is that a 300usd keyboard for him shouldn't sound wrong out the factory

[glacial wind]

that's kind of how it is for most keyboard stabs from factory unfortunately

they need to hand lube to really get it 100% consistent

which isn't super viable

you'll find most $300+ custom keyboards are not stab preassembled, which is why they don't run into that issue

[vague wadi]

ok i understand. is it hard to do it your self? i have never done anything like this before

[glacial wind]

not really. More annoying because you have to remove all keycaps and switches, but the actual process is easy

or there's some simpler quick fixes you can try like just injecting some extra lube in, but that works maybe half the time

[vague wadi]

😦 fuck my life 😦

[glacial wind]

it's not that bad, just google how to lube a stab

[ionic breach]

nah u dont have to

[fallen pecan]

😡 fuck the stabs😡

[ionic breach]

the plate comes off with the keycaps and switches

no need to remove all individually

for 80he

[vague wadi]

fuck my life. ill go back to my old keyboard 😦 iam to noob for this 🙂

[glacial wind]

i mean, the lube syringe thing takes like 5 seconds to try out but ok

[vague wadi]

iam looking at the video that someone posted earlier that had the same issue and when he remvoes the stab and lubeing it. and that looks super hard 😦

[glacial wind]

not really that hard to try the syringe

unless take off a keycap is hard

[vague wadi]

ok but is it 205 lube you need for the spacebar?

[glacial wind]

usually they use something a tad thicker, but 205g0 might work for a touch up if that's all you have

[vague wadi]

it was what a guy said i should use

[paper bloom]

You can run

205g0

or 105g0\

But its highly recommended to run 205g0

[glacial wind]

205g0 for housing, thicker for wires

[vague wadi]

ok but the once that is 205 on the site iam looking is not like the one on the pic

it is in like a can

so how do i get the lube in then?

[paper bloom]

ok your stabilizer has a housing

You gotta pull one side and inject it tiny bits

If not u gotta tear apart ur PCB and remove the stab wire

and use a brush and lube the wires

[glacial wind]

you buy the syringe, then you fill it up with lube

[paper bloom]

^^

[glacial wind]

or some shops sell syringe prefilled too, just depends where you shop

[ionic breach]

https://kineticlabs.com/lube/krytox/205-grade-0

[vague wadi]

ok going to look

[wintry yew]

Do i get white or black and white cable with this ? 😂

[ionic breach]

neither probably

i think yellow?

[peak breach]

It has arrived

[vague wadi]

can buying new stabalizers work ?or do i have to lube them and put them together?

[glacial wind]

you'd have to lube new stabilizers if you bought them

stabs don't come prelubed or preassembled

[tropic urchin]

Looks nice, how do you like it

[peak breach]

very nice

still have to change my mouse skates

[vague wadi]

ouch. do i even need to buy new stabilizers? or just lubing will help?

[tropic urchin]

Depending on your artisan pad, Tiger ice is a nice 3rd party skate

I have em for my beastx on my raiden soft and is fire

[ionic breach]

no its the same quality

lubing and tuning would probably be all u need

[peak breach]

i have unusual way sports magic ice skates

[vague wadi]

ok so i will just buy lube and a tiny brush 🙂

[ionic breach]

gl

[tropic urchin]

Seems similar to TIs very nais

[vague wadi]

fuck my life. going to destory this keyboard 😦

[peak breach]

only thing im not sure about the skates is the shape, most people use dots

[tropic urchin]

I’ve tried both, dots are the “fastest”, but they don’t feel worlds better than full skates for speed. I still kinda like full skates, but dots are good too.

[peak breach]

I got these

[tropic urchin]

I think those will be fine

They’re slightly larger than my SB max skates

My beastx had 2 different skate sizes (larger - what i started off with) and triangles, larger felt fine, but tried the triangles and I liked it a bit

The fuller ones is the black mouse

[peak breach]

the ones in my pic are smaler than the ones on the stock ulx

[tropic urchin]

I think those will be fine

Atleast the size of them

Worst case you can order some dots on the side if you run into any issues with the skate size not being smooth over time

I did run into that with my SB max with tiger ice skates, but think you should be fine with yours

[tawdry tree]

What a surprise!! Either way, doesn’t really matter yet though as the entire western market is still somewhat oblivious to the products popular in Asia. The only way to get those boards is through Ali and here we all know Ali can’t be trusted! (behind Battle68 is diabolical though, is it the Battle68 Pro or something, the most “premium model”?)

[fallen pecan]

pro is the totl model, goes for around $37

[tawdry tree]

Oh not even.. 🔥

[stone flax]

Wooting so good omg!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[fallen pecan]

oh the base is $14

[tawdry tree]

Yeah, I purchased that one to try out.

[stone flax]

[tawdry tree]

Insane

[fallen pecan]

the one above the iqunix ez63 is $33

[tawdry tree]

Thought it was a scam at first but the $30 board isn’t even bad.

[tawdry tree]

Yeah

[fallen pecan]

that brand sells pretty well in china since they're so cheap

[tawdry tree]

Of course

I do wonder why some boards with wobble worse than or on par with Lekker V2s score higher.

[fallen pecan]

tho their best seller is their mx board, 300k+ units sold

[tawdry tree]

That doesn’t really make sense to me.

[fallen pecan]

could be the combination of mounting style, filling, etc

[glacial wind]

His tests advantage lower actuation settings

So it’s not all just wobble but if you don’t enable say 0.02 or whatever actuation then you’re disadvantaged in some of those tests

[tawdry tree]

Of course but then surely you’d find a lot of inaccuracies. Or those boards manage to do 0.02 with switches that wobble a lot?

[glacial wind]

I don’t think he cares about inaccuracies as much

[tawdry tree]

Doubt it, it’d stand out like thorn.

I haven’t watched many of his tests though.

[glacial wind]

I mean you’re welcome to look at his numbers and tests using Google translate

[fallen pecan]

he has english subtitles, under the chinese ones

[glacial wind]

A lot of it is just raw data type stuff

[tawdry tree]

Yeah

It’s nice honestly.

Haven’t seen that yet.

[fallen pecan]

he's the 1st iirc

[tawdry tree]

Cool

[fallen pecan]

noone has ever included english subs

[glacial wind]

A lot of Chinese reviewers do that to a level but they don’t do it in english

[tawdry tree]

[glacial wind]

Same reason the mm studio boards performed really well for a long time on multiple Chinese reviewer rankings

Despite them being pretty trash when people got their hands on them with tons of calibration issues etc

[fallen pecan]

i feel like he doesnt score the ux part of the product, since the fun60 is pretty high up on his chart, but the keys sound like ass. shit stabs too.

[glacial wind]

it’s just a full raw numbers perspective, which is nice if you just want raw data which is why I like his switch reviews

[fallen pecan]

yeah, something different from the rest. cant wait for his full score list sometime next month

[glacial wind]

Honestly it’s kind of wrecking the Chinese scene I think but we’ll see

[fallen pecan]

oh yeah he had this disclaimer

score list with [latency, scanrate, polling scores] added up will be up on March 15th, full score in May

[glacial wind]

I’d find it more useful if he just put the numbers in a chart for each rather than trying to do a score aggregate

[fallen pecan]

I'd leave some suggestions but i literally can't as they need me to take a selfie with my passport next to my face ( to verify my account )

[glacial wind]

yeah signing up for bilibili is a pain in the ass

[tawdry tree]

SU68 Pro/Ultra was really popular right?

Thought it was decently received as well

[fallen pecan]

it was, early 2024

it still is in the japanese circles i think

[tawdry tree]

Yeah

[glacial wind]

they were received okay, although it had its own quirks with software stuff

And in actual testing didn’t come close to the promised 1st ranks it had

eyejoker had some latency etc data on them as well and they were fine but no where near the level some Chinese raw data tests showed

[tawdry tree]

Only one here that tried it is Sharkosaur and he was decent positive about it.

[fallen pecan]

then again it came with sticky rice switches

[tawdry tree]

Discord tf

[glacial wind]

Oh you must have talked to him earlier on lol

[tawdry tree]

Yeah

[glacial wind]

He did not rate it as highly later

[tawdry tree]

It’s been a while but yeah he recommended it even haha

[glacial wind]

Still performed ‘fine’ anyhow but it’s more that it never came close to some of the Chinese raw data numbers in actual testing from others

[tawdry tree]

Price plays a role as well probably, $100 for great build quality and an alu case.

[fallen pecan]

i couldnt get the metal one on taobao, only the plastic 'lite' version

[tawdry tree]

The alu one looks good ngl

[stone flax]

venom tkl is so good holy shit

fuck

how is it legal to be that good

[tawdry tree]

it’s bad. it doesn’t have rgb

[fallen pecan]

and the jp shops are still selling with massive upcharges

[tawdry tree]

lmao

[stone flax]

True

[glacial wind]

Some folks actually suspect that mm studios has a way of cheating raw data tests but I never followed up to see how true that was

[fallen pecan]

ive heard rumors of the board sending empty data packets to pad the numbers

[tawdry tree]

That’s with quite some boards I believe. The accuracy increases when just one key is pressed.

An unrealistic scenario

[glacial wind]

Yeah this is what I meant

[tawdry tree]

I think for MM Studio you can control that behavior with the different performance modes though.

[glacial wind]

Stuff like that was being talked about because the mm studio boards when actually tested in other ways was not lining up with how Chinese reviewers had their raw data saying it should be number 1 by far

[tidal frigate]

Mm?

[glacial wind]

Like you look at the eyejoker data for mm studio stuff and compare it to where the raw data reviews in China had it performing and it always fell short

[tawdry tree]

Mhm

Chasing top one is kinda pointless but I guess it’s some form of marketing as well.

[stone flax]

Tfw 90% of wootility v5 is rgb updates

[tawdry tree]

RGB > Performance because RGB = Performance

https://tenor.com/view/tkt-smart-gif-20642718

Anything of value discussed in today’s stream?

[glacial wind]

Just qna and saying owlabs case and white zinc aren’t far off

[calm pulsar]

rgb on top rgb better

[tawdry tree]

SoonTM?

[stone flax]

hopefully white zinc comes before wootility v6 (more rgb options)

[left depot]

[chilly mural]

uuu, mine still hasn't been shipped

[calm pulsar]

@tawdry tree
silent tactiles arrived
I think the whole board might sounds similar to topre, but the feeling is probably very different, these are scratchy as hell

[chilly mural]

wooting lost

[tropic urchin]

Raeds clear

jk they sound a lot better

[sacred elm]

raed thocKCKK

[sacred elm]

i actually thought video was muted tf is that 💀

[calm pulsar]

gazzew boba u4t silent tactiles

[tawdry tree]

I don’t like hearing the tactile leaf, the scratchiness I kinda like though (to a certain degree).

[tawdry tree]

😂 not yet, but can’t be slow in one of the most competitive markets of course.

[calm pulsar]

I feel like the whole personality of this switch is scratch

[tawdry tree]

Haha, yeah kinda

Did you get the Lichicx as well?

[chilly mural]

We just need 16k hz polling, kinda tired seeing 8khz polling

[tawdry tree]

Real

16k polling impos tho I think

300K scanning per key is possible though

😌

[chilly mural]

1 million scanning I guess

also 0.00001mm actuation point

[tawdry tree]

I just want layout support

done with these plain ass layouts

useless

:(

[chilly mural]

woot's 80he is not plain

But I want numpad HE

[tawdry tree]

that was somehow a downgrade imo

😂😭

[chilly mural]

Pls be specific, else you get something like that

Monkey Paw galore

[calm pulsar]

nope I didnt find them on ae at the time so just went with these

[round sparrow]

i just want the knob

but they keep saying the knob isnt real in the livestreams

[tawdry tree]

we’ll get a wooting door knob, just wait

[tawdry tree]

ah, do you like them though (apart from the scratchiness)

[tawdry tree]

false advertising bro, get on the chinese marketing level

🔥

[quasi hinge]

Same 100%

be amazing if they could implement just as an add on

[tawdry tree]

the silence about it is kinda weird ngl

like what’s the reason to ignore it?

[calm pulsar]

havent installed the whole board yet, but they feel kinda fun

for now 😄

[tawdry tree]

yeah, I like them too

[quasi hinge]

That render someone did looked like a potential add on

[round sparrow]

yeah for now the next "big" product seems to be the owl labs case

what comes after remains to be seen

[tawdry tree]

I hope not

lol

owlab case they just help distribute no?

[round sparrow]

yeah

[tawdry tree]

not actually co design?

[sacred elm]

3HE 🗣️

[chilly mural]

Woot knob with 10000rrp

Ppr*

[glacial wind]

It sounds like they were having issues fully getting it to function the way they wanted, at least that’s if you assume it was what calder was talking about when he leaked upcoming stuff in works

[round sparrow]

yeah seems like they are having problems and might cancel it?

[glacial wind]

I’d assume they keep on the deny its existence thing until they get closer to releasing it, especially since Chinese brands will copy it the moment they can

they have no gain for confirming or talking about it yet really

Calder did say they finally were on the right track to figuring it out though - whatever that mystery project was, whether it was a knob or something else

[tawdry tree]

you don’t find it a tad bit odd that they’ve been transparent about literally everything except that?

doesn’t make sense to me

[glacial wind]

Well they’ve gone full quiet about upcoming projects for a bit now. I think how quickly all their features and 80he stuff got copied by China made them more protective about leaking

[tawdry tree]

right

[chilly mural]

Just hope it means we can be pleasantly surprised on the next release.

[tawdry tree]

it’s been how long?

[glacial wind]

The days of Calder leaking entire upcoming projects in discord calls seems to be gone since 80he came out and was instantly feature copied in a few days

[tawdry tree]

😭

[sacred elm]

I really want knob on my 80he (ill never use it)

just give me my 0.1 rapid trigger and switch selector

Day 105

[round sparrow]

imagine all the fun rgb stuff you can do with the knob

[chilly mural]

That'll fit soo well with the LED bar

[tawdry tree]

that’ll always happen though and woot isn’t really directly competing with chinese boards anyway.

[round sparrow]

rgb fidget spinner on a keyboard

[tawdry tree]

china is fast

that’s just it

[glacial wind]

Yeah but it makes sense they’ve really locked it down in leaks since there’s pretty much only negatives to gain nowadays for their leaking

[tawdry tree]

I doubt that’s the reason. The leaks created hype

if you can’t deliver on that, then it backfires