🔧│keyboard_modding

[stone flax]

also just regurgitating product page 90% of the time

[ionic breach]

just ping and ask

[stone flax]

with incorrect specs too

[chrome cedar]

S

[ionic breach]

it looks like hes just having placebo with the lube

or he got a differing batch

[sacred elm]

yea he said these are well lubed, no need to lube them

🤷‍♂️

well lubed

[stone flax]

did he even open a switch

or is he just doing brainrot i think it feels good

[glacial wind]

I assume cam confirmed his poms are same as ttc version lube?

[sacred elm]

Its same yea

[ionic breach]

@brave pagoda yo just curious abt the latest vid, in the comparison section you said the ttc kom poms were badly lubed, but its supposed to be the same lubing job as wooting's ttc kom poms which u said where well lubed?

[stone flax]

placebo is a hell of a drug

that or batch variance

[ionic breach]

lmao im just curious

[stone flax]

people used to swear by dashes being better sounding than jades

this hobby is filled with that sort of thinking

[glacial wind]

Eh why ping him

[sacred elm]

[ionic breach]

im curious now

also im avoiding studying

[left depot]

why not you guys ask a question that he can answer

[glacial wind]

I’d be more worried it hurts his mental if he gets dogpiled

[stone flax]

haiiiii raquel

[glacial wind]

Could have just dm him instead

[ionic breach]

lmao probably

this channel can get a little too hostile recently

[glacial wind]

Yeah he seems like a nice enough guy

[left depot]

if you ask a question in a normal polite manner im sure its fine. If you cant do that, then thats a problem.

[stone flax]

rate the plush raquel :3

[left depot]

Feedback/criticism is always welcome Im sure, just dont be a dick about it

[left depot]

i have a brown one! very cute

#🧸│plushies_toys

[glacial wind]

The don’t be a dick part I think is the part that worries me

[left depot]

be a dick and get banned/timedout, its that easy

[stone flax]

holy moly macaroni

where was this

[left depot]

its been here for a while hahaha

[stone flax]

Q~Q

tyy

[ionic breach]

oh yea i need to ask

which should i get

[peak breach]

What are those?

[glacial wind]

The last one because it doubles as a poker table

[peak breach]

Deskmats?

[ionic breach]

deskmats

yea

[peak breach]

2nd

[ionic breach]

im thinking on pairing it with kap midas

and not gmk black and gold lmao

im thinking 1 or 3

[tawdry tree]

Getting accurate info about switches from their manus is nearly fucking impossible. Their internal communication isn’t just bad, it’s nonexistent. 🥴

[ionic breach]

rounded deskmats ive never tried

[round sparrow]

then go for 3

[stone flax]

ttc is king

[chilly mural]

The third one, it's multi purpose plus the square can be used to play, to sort, and as a place for your keyboard

[ionic breach]

3 it is

[tropic urchin]

I fuck with the black/gold fractals 😳

[stone flax]

third one for poker knight

[chilly mural]

Also the first one is just too showy

Second one is fine, for regular usage

[ionic breach]

actually i think 3 is more showy lmao

[chilly mural]

really? 3rd one looks minimalistic to me

[ionic breach]

1 is just lines

3 has many objects around

[scarlet kindle]

Do you guys know about lemokey keyboards they keep popping up in my suggestions on Instagram

[chilly mural]

mmhm

[ionic breach]

different backgrounds

in diff sections

all that

[chilly mural]

The LE HE?

[scarlet kindle]

Yes

It’s on kickstarter rn

[chilly mural]

Just heard about it

[scarlet kindle]

Will that brand be the new Wooting?

[chilly mural]

No

[scarlet kindle]

They’ve got so many features

[glacial wind]

You haven’t seen Drakon irl though. Maybe he wants showy

[ionic breach]

im am kinda scared of my set up having gold wood and black as a theme

[glacial wind]

I took that from draks selfie page on instagram

[chilly mural]

Also waow, $200. Doesn't seems worth it to me since Lemokey doesn't have that much of a reputation of long term software support.

[tawdry tree]

Switches are interesting, looks like a new Yiqian one with mounting pins.

[chilly mural]

At least they sells dust cover

[tawdry tree]

and a diffuser.

[stone flax]

will u get duhuk and taishan

[tawdry tree]

ye

[stone flax]

get me it too bro

[tawdry tree]

u already did atp

[ionic breach]

its either kap midas or gmk pompeii rn

planning for both

[tawdry tree]

u want?

duhuk on ali

so

[stone flax]

yes bro 💔

[tawdry tree]

go buy

u want mountain switch fr no cap?

[quasi hinge]

Yes

Plain but for office, so sleeper - Lemokey P1 Pro (non he)

Wooting wrist wrest goated for me

WOB with Gateron Smoothies

Fantastic keyboard for non HE and decent price

[ionic breach]

wait im kinda forced to pick 1

the dimensions is good for my long and thin ass table

[stone flax]

theyre ok

[quasi hinge]

Oh wait I just realized he might have been referencing the HE variant

[tawdry tree]

L5 HE

[quasi hinge]

Dont get the lemokey, they lock you into their switch ecosystem, works only with their line of switches

[fallen pecan]

lemokey = keychron = jamesdonkey = skn btw

[quasi hinge]

This one is new

[tawdry tree]

I hope not. The switch seems to have a central magnet so maybe just maybe they’ll use the widely used magnetic strengths, surely.

[quasi hinge]

Maybe they changed so you can use switches

[quasi hinge]

https://www.keychron.com/products/keychron-q1-he-qmk-wireless-custom-keyboard

[quasi hinge]

“The Q1 HE is compatible exclusively with the Gateron Double-Rail Magnetic Switch. It does not support other magnetic switches such as the Gateron Magnetic Jade or Gateron KS-20 Magnetic switches.”

[quasi hinge]

They may change that for this

[fallen pecan]

ye all keychron boards are ks37 iirc

[quasi hinge]

I dunno

[quasi hinge]

Lame

[fallen pecan]

the day they mention it supports gateron jades would be the day they use ks20

[stone flax]

ass

never get keychron

[tawdry tree]

It’s KS-37C with a vertical magnet orientation. They technically workwith Woot’s boards but just have weaker magnets.

[stone flax]

flipped polarity ks37 = switch compatibility with NOTHING

cheeks

[tawdry tree]

Nothing like other KS-37 series switches with a horizontal magnet orientation though.

[quasi hinge]

I just got a plain mechanical lemokey for the office

P1 pro

[tawdry tree]

Didn’t they make Jades compatible through a firmware update?

[quasi hinge]

Pretty decently priced

[quasi hinge]

No idea but still super lame

[tawdry tree]

Glorious more lame

[safe stag]

normally it's logitech that does this

[tawdry tree]

The only switches you can use are Glorious’ Yiqian for nearly $2 per switch or Keychrons which suck.

[safe stag]

https://tenor.com/view/leonardo-dicaprio-clapping-clap-applause-amazing-gif-16078907558888063471

[polar girder]

PP Venom plate arrives today. TTC POM almost here

Yo cerakeys black matte looks sick

The more I look at it the more I like it.

[tropic urchin]

Pom Pom type shii

[polar girder]

All P - P errythang

[chilly mural]

very soft

[polar girder]

Only the softest

[drifting stream]

Frog mini, case foam, no foam for the pcb or plate & CRP keycaps
Can't wait to try them on the F1

[ashen basin]

dude hand lubed poms actually feel so nice

idk why i waited this long to get into lubing

[chilly mural]

curius to see the shipping and fuwee. Might as well get ttc POM if this is the price.

[quasi hinge]

Ttc pom og is not bad (very good imo)

I have them

But I think some here have both

[cyan lark]

The jade minis work with a stem swap

[chilly mural]

Also, tiger lite gaming start fulfilling order. Yay

took a while

Can finally experience 7u spacebar once it arrive. Luckily I have a gmk 7u spacebar lying around.

[tropic urchin]

I should’ve paid the $15 shipping instead of $7 I want my alu plate now 😠

[chilly mural]

how much is plate?

Also, rip Bozo. Now you experienced now paying for expedited shipping.

[peak breach]

I paid that amount for ups shipping saying it arrives today, 1 hour after ordering i got another email saying it will arrive tomorrow, and the last update i got was 2 days ago in the netherlands

[tropic urchin]

Plate itself was prob $20-30 range but they’re including their copium foam too so it’s $50 in total

Which is rather ridiculous but it’s all I can do for alu

My $16 in cash back rewards can offset their foam so idc anymore

[chilly mural]

waow

foam up

[tropic urchin]

I’m basically held at gun point by them so

Fuckin monopoly plate

[chilly mural]

it's fine, at least you got what you want

[tropic urchin]

Yeah I’m not gonna trip over $16

I’d like for it to be plate only but we live in a very flawed and foam centric world

[chilly mural]

foam is nice, without it, some people might lose sleep

[sacred elm]

20$ foam💀 💀 💀

[tropic urchin]

We live in aligner’s and Mr civster’s muted world 😭

Is fine

[stone flax]

duhuks better than poms

[sacred elm]

poks

[sacred elm]

muted ttc🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥

you dont like it = hater

[stone flax]

poks would be good

but idk

a bit too soft

[brave pagoda]

Oh haha I meant the OG TTC KOM’s and the TTC URANUS

You know the first one with the Magneto colour theme going on

The POM version is fine

[ionic breach]

i dont have the pom personally so im dont know much

but many here believe the pom is underlubed as well like the others

also saw u were playing ow, hows the new perks?

[ionic breach]

there is a POM switch that has magneto colours

but all are lubed the same afaik

[brave pagoda]

Haha it’s pretty cool! But oddly enough it doesn’t feel like it changed the game much… Waiting for 6v6 to be added in😆

[sacred elm]

Hey Wasabi, are you going to hand lube your poms

[cyan lark]

Are you guys talking about OW? Have I found my people?

[brave pagoda]

are you thinking about getting the new Wooting TTC POM Switches?

[ionic breach]

[ionic breach]

for me nah

[stone flax]

duhuk core he better

[ionic breach]

raws just are so nice

[stone flax]

lets get duhuks

only $20

For 70

[ionic breach]

yea im kinda liking duhuks too

'

imma try it out

[teal raven]

how do we feel about this silhouette for the 60he

[stone flax]

same

[brave pagoda]

noooo hahaha😂 that would take forever. I honestly feel they’re fine.

[sacred elm]

Fair

Great vid!

[ionic breach]

thats a hole puncher

[stone flax]

are u gonna update the video or pin a comment clarifying that?

[teal raven]

i swear i see like a ipad with one of those standing cases

[stone flax]

it kinda puts false expectations theres larger changes between normal poms to wooting poms than there are

[teal raven]

or the tipping screen

[ionic breach]

would look cool with a two tone

[teal raven]

do we like the hole puncher shape tho

[brave pagoda]

i’ll add a pin in the comments! cheers!

[stone flax]

👍

[teal raven]

lowkey i could do that and add a external weight at the bottom

[ionic breach]

@stone flax got a general link/name

cant google it

[stone flax]

ur na?

[ionic breach]

nah

just need to copy the name

[stone flax]

U got access to aliexpress?

[ionic breach]

ye

[stone flax]

https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256808317829006.html

[ionic breach]

wooting specialised?

[sacred elm]

duhfuk

[stone flax]

are u using for venom or wooting

[ionic breach]

wooting

[stone flax]

then wooting

[ionic breach]

didnt know there was a need tho

[stone flax]

wdym

[sacred elm]

dont you need same version for venom too

[ionic breach]

700 is fine for wooting

afaik

idk why they made 2

[sacred elm]

yeah

[graceful dirge]

Hello, I’m in the middle of researching which tape I should use for tape modding my pcb. I see everyone using Painters tape but it’s medium adhesive acrylic which is conductive so isn’t that bad??

[polar girder]

agreed

[tropic urchin]

Duhfuk 🤣

[stone flax]

im sorry ur $1 switches mogged by duhuks

[sacred elm]

💀 💀 💀

[tawdry tree]

Yeah, because of the stem swap.

[marsh saffron]

Those switches can go duhfuck themselves im still going raws

[cyan lark]

I'm not arguing for it, it's still a rough go on the Q1 HE.

[stone flax]

why get raws when duhuk exist

[marsh saffron]

White switches for my white build

[sacred elm]

get both

and swap top housing

[stone flax]

keyboard

[sacred elm]

theyre the same i think

[marsh saffron]

Brotha do you know how much that'd cost me 😭

[sacred elm]

yea im joking

get poms

[marsh saffron]

😭 😭 😭 😭 😭

[tropic urchin]

Pom Pom type shii

[sacred elm]

LMAO

[marsh saffron]

130$ switches

[tawdry tree]

I know, I remember you made the Q1 with stem swapped Jade Mini Es for someone right?

[tropic urchin]

Ohio state ri..

[sacred elm]

duhfuks are cheaper

[stone flax]

duhawk tuah

[marsh saffron]

Than raws?

[cyan lark]

A very special someone ❤️ 🙂

[stone flax]

duhawk tuah

[sacred elm]

yea

[stone flax]

duhawk tuah

[marsh saffron]

Stop making this harder on me shafie

[stone flax]

duhawks better than poms ttc has to produce better stuff than switches with serial numbers and hearts 😭

[marsh saffron]

😭

[sacred elm]

you cant see your switches man, screw white

[marsh saffron]

From certain angles i can

And it's annoying because it contrasts so hard

[sacred elm]

Cam said they have less wobble than raws

[marsh saffron]

My ocd can't handle it 😭

[tropic urchin]

Beastx + Pom = max aura night

Put it on Trudeau’s tab

[sacred elm]

beastx soon ™️

[marsh saffron]

White beastx + my build with raws is gonna be peak

Just need the raws and beastx pro

[sacred elm]

hop on silver beastx pro

[marsh saffron]

Nah I gotta go white

[sacred elm]

creamy white?

[marsh saffron]

This on my white glass pad 👌 👌 👌 👌

Shits gonna go so hard

[sacred elm]

solid sides, ic ic

[marsh saffron]

Yeah I'm wanting solid sides for more grip variability

I like the slits on the mini because it locks my grip where it has to be

[sacred elm]

I always have one grip, side slits will be fine probably for me

[marsh saffron]

But I'm gonna get a regular size with solid sides

[tropic urchin]

Also feels like you’re gripping a skeleton

[marsh saffron]

I don't so this is why I'd like the solid sides

[tropic urchin]

Very weird feel

Do you know if it has an upgraded sensor or just same shit night

As original

[sacred elm]

pro will feel so weird for you because youve used mini for a long time💀

[marsh saffron]

Its now on par with the beastx max (3950hs)

They used to have 3395

[tropic urchin]

Ah

[marsh saffron]

Pro series is all 3950hs now

Idk what mcu i don't keep track of those

[sacred elm]

I read in their discord that QC is better (potentially)

[marsh saffron]

How could it get better?

[sacred elm]

Idk

[marsh saffron]

Shit was unironically flawless on my unit

[sacred elm]

probably creaking and all those stuff

is better

[marsh saffron]

Shits gonna be solid as a rock

[sacred elm]

do you use stock skates?

[marsh saffron]

Burnt through them with glass pad but I used to

Now I use the included glass skates on my zero xsoft

[sacred elm]

ill give stock a week, will see how good theyre

[marsh saffron]

I'm probably gonna pickup some uhmwpe skates

[marsh saffron]

Stocks felt good, definitely not meant for glass pads though they wear quickly

[sacred elm]

yea

[marsh saffron]

They are quite fast

[sacred elm]

also weird that pro comes with dots

[marsh saffron]

Id say they are on par with lamzu stock skates (quite good imo)

[sacred elm]

yea my thorn stock skates were good

[marsh saffron]

It does?

[sacred elm]

Yeah

[marsh saffron]

I can't complain I like dots

They used to give you corner skates pre installed

[sacred elm]

theyre in the box i think

[tropic urchin]

The QC honestly has been very good 👀

Now I feel bad for telling you to fuck off earlier for the beastx size 🤣🤣😭

[marsh saffron]

I'm telling you man this mouse is magic

[tropic urchin]

https://tenor.com/view/virtual-sin-forgiveness-gif-2527310856434217376

[marsh saffron]

Shit just works for large hands even if its small

[marsh saffron]

The Chinese overlords at wlmouse forgive you

🙏

[sacred elm]

finalmouse better

[marsh saffron]

🤨

Honestly so true

They brought us the starlight molds

[sacred elm]

real

[harsh dove]

Yes they are

Hard to get a pic of it with the lube on white surface but I can try

[chilly mural]

Oh yeah, speaking of Finalmouse, how's centerpiece

[ionic breach]

regular vs poms tho?

[marsh saffron]

No word since pre order

[harsh dove]

has same lube as POMs

[chilly mural]

damn

at least a video?

[marsh saffron]

Not that I known of

[stone flax]

true

[sacred elm]

no

[tropic urchin]

You fuck with their grip tape night

[harsh dove]

I wanted to try finalmouse at one point then heard about QC issues

[sacred elm]

hop on beastx

[tropic urchin]

Debating if I should for sides given sometimes if I grip it too hard I get slit imprints

[marsh saffron]

Its great grip tape, ruins the aesthetic imo

[sacred elm]

Silver beastx with your silver gt80 yummy 🫦

[tropic urchin]

Fair

[marsh saffron]

The grip tape helps make the slits less aggressive

[harsh dove]

I’m not even in the mouse rabbit hole like- wait you said silver ?

[marsh saffron]

Makes it softer when you push into the slits

[harsh dove]

[marsh saffron]

They have solid side options too👀

[stone flax]

😭

venom + ulx clears

[harsh dove]

A duhuk disciple

[marsh saffron]

Erm

[sacred elm]

oh btw pro version has smaller slits on sides

[marsh saffron]

Oh???

[sacred elm]

yea

[marsh saffron]

Cool

[harsh dove]

The duhuk clan is growing

[marsh saffron]

God damnit shafie you always make my buying decisions harder

[sacred elm]

[harsh dove]

[tropic urchin]

Now get Raiden

[marsh saffron]

I don't need more pads I don't need more pads I don't need more pads

[harsh dove]

Call my crazy but hand lubed my duhuks last night

[digital garnet]

key83 🗣️ 🔥 🔥

[marsh saffron]

(I want to get a Raiden when a Canadian retailer is available)

[marsh saffron]

Isn't this a mud pad

I need muh speed

Raiden mid is next fs

[digital garnet]

nah that’s the type 99. the mid version of the key83 feels like glass

[sacred elm]

its like hien

[tropic urchin]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-meme-i-need-it-i-don’t-need-it-i-definitely-don’t-need-it-thirsty-gif-17101453146721253330

[sacred elm]

but less aggressive hien

[marsh saffron]

Is Raiden mid still faster?

[sacred elm]

ofc

[marsh saffron]

My decision is made

[tropic urchin]

Raiden mid should be their fastest cloth pad

[scarlet kindle]

Chat are those keyboards real? The one you see on Instagram with spider web keycap and sounds so good

[tropic urchin]

I personally prefer soft but both are nice

The mild plush feel is so nice for Kawhi Leonard hands

[sacred elm]

if you play tracking games mid is better (potentially)

[digital garnet]

i just don’t enjoy how soft feels when i accidentally push down into the pad

[marsh saffron]

I used to main glass pad

On tac fps even

[tropic urchin]

Both for me felt pretty similar pushing down, soft is just a little slower out of the box but I’m cool with that given it’s mid is crack head speed and also enjoy the added surface area for medium mice now

[marsh saffron]

Raiden mid is calling my name

[sacred elm]

LOL, I think its like this for a year or smth

[marsh saffron]

😭 😭 😭 😭 😭

[marsh saffron]

Fuck me man can they just release these

I got shut away by support when I asked about it

[scarlet kindle]

Got any idea?

[tropic urchin]

For what

[scarlet kindle]

I can send you the video if you want

[marsh saffron]

Going from my glass pad to my zero xsoft was so fucked

Glass pad gave me the luxury of being able to press into my pad without any issues (i do this a lot)

Going to my xsoft zero felt like aiming on quicksand

[tropic urchin]

You talking about this? #1344087753729642537 message

[digital garnet]

xsoft

[sacred elm]

ive only used soft and mid

[tawdry tree]

TheHooks hooking people in

[tropic urchin]

XSoft seeks to be cursed from what ppl have said

[marsh saffron]

I just need to order some skates

And I'll go back to glass

[sacred elm]

💀

poop color mouse 🔥

[harsh dove]

Best one

[marsh saffron]

Ngl would look clean as hell with a mocha tofu

[tawdry tree]

brown underrated af

[harsh dove]

Slowly but surely the church grows quietly

[marsh saffron]

So true

[chilly mural]

Don't call it poop, call it lacquered Wood

[harsh dove]

Call it Ebony

[tropic urchin]

Can put lipstick on a pig, but it’s still a pig 🤣

[tawdry tree]

just kids accociating brown with poop 🤦‍♂️

[cyan lark]

Decimated copper

[tawdry tree]

🔥

[marsh saffron]

One pretty pig

Speaking of pigs I seen a fat ass pig yesterday 😭

[tropic urchin]

More like very dark coffee grounds, but not my favorite WLmouse color

[ionic breach]

perfect

[tropic urchin]

That would be a decent pairing

[scarlet kindle]

No check Dms

[sacred elm]

coffee brown raiden

[tropic urchin]

No idea they look like kinda generic white amazon keycaps with pulse effect

Can ask and see what caps they are but that’s what I’d imagine anyway

[scarlet kindle]

The sound

[tawdry tree]

👀 might have to get a new mouse

copper slag looks more brown than it is though, it’s kinda shiny so I don’t think it’d match

[harsh dove]

Would still be cheaper than POMs

[sacred elm]

get all three

[marsh saffron]

My gas tank is gonna be crying empty if I buy new switches rn

[harsh dove]

And how dare you

[marsh saffron]

Let alone 2 or 3 😭

[marsh saffron]

Listen man, raws are superior (they match my keyboard therefore are the best)

[harsh dove]

Ah fair enough, if you’re going for a theme I understand

[marsh saffron]

I just hate seeing miss colored switches under my caps

It tickles my ocd in the worst way imaginable

[harsh dove]

I’m not using them anymore but I liked the way the RAWs looked in my frog last night when I was testing

[marsh saffron]

God damn that's clean

Any reason you went south facing?

[harsh dove]

Cause South Facing Supremacy

[marsh saffron]

Erm no (rgb enjoyer)

[harsh dove]

Yeah

[marsh saffron]

Xray is too clean with rgb for me to ever give it up

[harsh dove]

Yeah Xray does well with RGB

[marsh saffron]

Been using a golden orange with it and my god it's gorgeous

[high sphinx]

Wich case is the upper one ?

[harsh dove]

Salvation

@tawdry tree fixed that case ping btw

[high sphinx]

Oh i thought u did not have it anymore

[harsh dove]

Forgot to reinstall my burger mount in that last vid

[harsh dove]

Nah I still have it

[marsh saffron]

That'd do it lol

[harsh dove]

Right lol

[marsh saffron]

Oringless friction mount

[high sphinx]

Ubuse burger mount for salv ?

[harsh dove]

Yeah

[high sphinx]

I might try that

[harsh dove]

Lmk what you think , I feel like it helps with the ping if you have any

[high sphinx]

I dont have any small silicone rings atm but i will see if i can get some

[glass comet]

what do u guys think of the UR studio ice he switches?

[high sphinx]

I have something else when i press hard on the bottom keft xornzr it like scratches even tho i tried to push the module as up as i could if that makes sense

[tawdry tree]

Fine but I’d rather get the Skylines or Masters.

UR Ice isn’t perfectly smooth

[glass comet]

are there any sound tests on those switches? havent seen a single one

[harsh dove]

Hmm, maybe check and see if any of those little rubber stand offs came off?

Sounds like your plate might be scraping against the interior

[high sphinx]

Yeah a little and only if i push semi hard

[harsh dove]

Two switches I haven’t bothered trying, worth?

[high sphinx]

All the rubbers are on btw

[tawdry tree]

Not sure. They sound very similar to Neo Lavenders so if a sound test of those exists somewhere it’d be a good indicator.

[high sphinx]

Here u can see

[tawdry tree]

Eh, closed bottom Raws.

So not really.

[harsh dove]

Hmm, usually if my plate was ever scratching I’d just shift the module around inside the case but you’re saying you already tried that

[harsh dove]

No distinct sound difference like the Duhuks?

[high sphinx]

I can try again and first screw the left side down the side that has it

[tawdry tree]

I can’t really tell the difference between Skylines and Neo lavs so nah.

Better stability than Neo Lavs tho

[harsh dove]

Alright, good to know , probably pass then

[tawdry tree]

they’re more expensive than Duhuks too

[harsh dove]

Did you use the leaf springs on the far left and right sides or did you ignore those when building the board?

[tawdry tree]

well almost same price

[harsh dove]

Rip

[high sphinx]

The board came with springs installed

[harsh dove]

It came with all the leaf springs installed in the salvation?

[high sphinx]

No far left and far right are out

[harsh dove]

Oh okay nice

[velvet egret]

I fkn hate delivery companies in holland -_-

[harsh dove]

Was gonna say those might be causing it but if they not installed then nevermind

[tawdry tree]

That’s right, you should and I do too.

[high sphinx]

I gonna try screwing down the left side first maybe that resolves it

[velvet egret]

Literally im at home working till 22:00 and iget msg oh yeah sorry we missed each other like im fkn home u just decide not to come by

[high sphinx]

I dont have any trouble while typing but still ..

[harsh dove]

Yeah the case scratch would annoy me

[high sphinx]

Yup i wanna fix it

[harsh dove]

Maybe try sending of video it to get a better idea

[high sphinx]

When i am home ok ?
I am at work now bit can i send u orivate messee ?

[harsh dove]

Sure

[tawdry tree]

They do that all the time bro. I think it’s when your house is at the end of their trip and they’re slow they just say fk it and don’t come by lol

[high sphinx]

Ty i will send it as soon as i al hole in like 3 hours and half my shift is done

[velvet egret]

yup exactly. ive already dont mutliple reports and its just so infuriating

[high sphinx]

@harsh dove could it be due the venom standard plate or nah ?

[marsh saffron]

Canada post does this too

So fucking annoying

[tawdry tree]

[tawdry tree]

Doubt it. Make sure all the leaf springs are secure and can’t swivel, then maybe use something like paper on the edges to align it if it’s difficult

then screw it down

I think that could work.

[tawdry tree]

like a few playing cards perhaps

on each side

[high sphinx]

Ok will try ty cause when i push the moduke a bit to high the screws dont allign anymore

And then i cant screw it down

[tawdry tree]

Odd

Are you talking like all the way up?

[high sphinx]

Yes

[tawdry tree]

If the screws don’t align when the venom is in normally then there’d be an issue

[high sphinx]

When i push the module all the way up

No no just when i fully push it to upper edge

[tawdry tree]

It’s prob the same for mine, I don’t remember though

I didn’t try to push it up all the way I think

[high sphinx]

I will aslo send u the video when i get home ok ?

[tawdry tree]

Could just send it here as well with a tag

don’t gotta dm two people that way ;)

[harsh dove]

Yeah just send it here

Other people can chime in and maybe help too

[high sphinx]

Yeah alright ty guys but o gotra fo back to work

[harsh dove]

The HE Collection

For now…

Missing OG TTC POMs from the pic but whatever

[fluid ravine]

Stop flexing

[harsh dove]

I’m not

I’m sharing

Empty

[cyan lark]

Organization ✨

[harsh dove]

CamOffLife but I haven’t made videos yet

[cyan lark]

It's okay to have that many switches if they all have a neat place to rest

[fluid ravine]

Duhuks for $20!!!

[scarlet kindle]

Whereeee

[fluid ravine]

70pc!

On sale for some damn reason

[harsh dove]

Oh thank you, I appreciate that, I think I could do better with some more effort

[fluid ravine]

Gib

[scarlet kindle]

Can you help me with import stuff?

I sent an email through the support tool and got an ai response by a real person using chatgpt who just copy pasted the fucking title and called it a day

[glacial wind]

Sounds like cam is in need of a nice 16-25 f2.8 g lens for his YouTube channel

[harsh dove]

If it’s about your Wooting Order, then no, I cannot help you, sorry.
You’ll have to send another email to support for a follow-up.

[scarlet kindle]

Not about an order

[glacial wind]

Can’t make the first video without a nice $2k lens

[tawdry tree]

Fake news (at least for Eu 😭)

[harsh dove]

Indeed

[scarlet kindle]

I wanted to know under what codes the products are shipped under

[harsh dove]

Exactly

[scarlet kindle]

Because you need the codes to calculate tax

[harsh dove]

I do not have that information, sorry

[scarlet kindle]

Who do I talk to, to get it?

[glacial wind]

If you can catch mark around he’ll know the codes, don’t ping him though

[scarlet kindle]

I’ve replied to Mr Akbar many times when he’s in the chat but he doesn’t really answer

[harsh dove]

He’s a busy man

If you see him, try to ask him though

[scarlet kindle]

I did

Multiple times ::

I don’t understand why we have to wait a week or two to get a reply from wooting through email when they’re just gonna reply using chatgpt and not even read the body

[glacial wind]

I’ve seen him tell people the codes in chat before, just depends how busy he is

[glacial wind]

Because unfortunately there’s thousands of other people also writing in asking for things like this

[scarlet kindle]

Mine is very specific

I wrote every information needed for the customer support person to get the required codes

I mentioned my country, the products I need code for and the reason why

[cyan lark]

So did everybody else that's contacting them though.

It's a queue, and you're in it.

[scarlet kindle]

Now read what I said dumbass

Talking about a queue

[cyan lark]

My word

[scarlet kindle]

The person ( A real person) just read the title and wrote a chat gpt reply

[glacial wind]

Whelp that went aggressive quickly

[scarlet kindle]

Didn’t even gimme a code

[harsh dove]

No need to start insulting people.

[tawdry tree]

You should post the response you got in #1141096226884956181 if it’s unhelpful. Woot has struggled with support for the longest time so it’s not really a surprise anymore but they’ve always helped me (takes a while of course)

[scarlet kindle]

Yes because this guy instead of reading what I’ve said is assuming I’m complaining about waiting

[harsh dove]

And to be honest, this discord isn’t for customer support.

[scarlet kindle]

And the customer support isn’t doing shit either?

[tawdry tree]

[harsh dove]

They are, just not currently with your request, you have to wait

[scarlet kindle]

Wait for what

[glacial wind]

Good luck with that, I shall return to reading my wuxia. The main character is about to start his martial arts tournament arc

[cyan lark]

I read what you wrote, I'm sorry that you didn't like what I had to write. I'll let you figure it out.

[scarlet kindle]

I got the reply by a real person and they just gave me a copy pasta answer bruh

[harsh dove]

A response from the Customer Support Team

[scarlet kindle]

they didn’t even read what I was asking

[scarlet kindle]

I DID GET A RESPONSE

ALL IM SAYING IS THEY DIDNT EVEN ANSWER WHAT I ASKED

[tawdry tree]

Do this Koro, Woot team reads through Feedback quite frequently.

[harsh dove]

Then reply and ask for more assistance or say they didn’t answer your question

[scarlet kindle]

I used the community support thingy aswell, will try that too

[calm pulsar]

who is screaming it woke me up

[scarlet kindle]

💔😔 sorry

[tawdry tree]

Someone who is done with unsupportive support?

haha

[scarlet kindle]

Like take your time but atleast give me an answer

I waited a week or two already I’ll wait few more days if that’s what it takes 😭

[tawdry tree]

Yeah I feel you. I thought they always did tbh, not sure what went wrong.

[glacial wind]

You are doing the equivalent of yelling at the other customers in McDonald’s when the ice cream machine is broken - none of us are wooting staff

[stone flax]

i
Am

[harsh dove]

Yeah I just moderate the place

And get vegetables

In the form of Leeks

[tawdry tree]

Sometimes yelling helps. ;)

[scarlet kindle]

I never yelled until that dude came in telling me to be patient and all

I came here to ask

[stone flax]

hai

ur duhuk and raw sound tests

what were full configs?

other than frog + gmk

my question is why is bro asking about codes in keyboard modding

💀

[jade narwhal]

ready to buy mount tai switches and put it on my venom🧐
I am a bit tired of the feeling of geon raw.

[harsh dove]

60A Tadpoles, Geon FR4 Frog Mini plate, Silicone Switch Pad , and force break mod

[scarlet kindle]

Because there’s a moderator here dumbass and unlike your countries with barely any tax we have to pay 20% if not more

[stone flax]

hmmmmm

[tawdry tree]

Chill with the insults

[glacial wind]

Mods are volunteers fyi

[stone flax]

ok bro 💔

[glacial wind]

Not wooting staff

[cyan lark]

Maybe he just thinks that's our name

[stone flax]

its ok i forgive you

[harsh dove]

Alright, last warning for calling people a dumbass.

[scarlet kindle]

That’s exactly why I asked if he can help with it

A simple no would’ve sufficed but everyone here wants to moral police a person by reading their latest messages

[glacial wind]

The other customers at McDonald’s also don’t know why the ice cream machine is broken and can only direct you to the helpful ice cream support ticket system

[ionic breach]

free wootings?

dont mind if i do

[tropic urchin]

What happened to the other messages today tf

[scarlet kindle]

Yet they’re telling me that the burgers take time to be ready

Why are we talking in McDonald’s analogy tho fr

[tawdry tree]

not a bad analogy ngl

[glacial wind]

We don’t know anymore than you do, you can only reply to the ticket and explain more about what ice cream you need

[calm pulsar]

I want a cheeseburger

[ionic breach]

ima go get one now actually

its 2.30am lol

[tender valley]

anyone here who has tried both the ttc x wooting pom and the geon raws? as someone who switched from the geons to the ttc, i cant really decide tbf

[scarlet kindle]

The Kai cenat burger

[harsh dove]

Why what’s up?

[tropic urchin]

The entire lifetime chat looks like it got nuked 💀

[stone flax]

duhuks better than both

[calm pulsar]

duhuk disciple

[stone flax]

thats me

[tender valley]

im just looking to hear some opinons as i really like both but i just cant wrap my mind around them

[harsh dove]

The duhuk church grows daily

[stone flax]

howd u use a switch pad for 7u?

[harsh dove]

I think both are solid switches , really just depends what sound you favor more, POMs have the better tolerances though

[harsh dove]

Used one of Wootings and cut it

[stone flax]

i thought so

kk

[harsh dove]

I have like a bunch of em

lol

[tender valley]

yea, i felt the geons became a bit "mushy" over time, or maybe i just adjusted to the low weight of the geons

[stone flax]

Yeee

[tawdry tree]

What happened?

[tender valley]

but the ttcs feel a bit heavier

[fluid ravine]

Sheeeeee

[glossy pagoda]

Mate I answered you directly the last time you asked. Don't throw me under the buss like that
#💬│general message

[harsh dove]

Ah interesting, yeah the POMs also use a longer spring

21mm vs 15mm

[stone flax]

Bro got exposed for not reading

😭

[tender valley]

yea i know, but i didnt think they would be THAT heavy as theyre still 40 g initial or sth

[harsh dove]

Wooowww

[calm pulsar]

lx60 at the post office

[cyan lark]

All that heat and nothing was cooking

[stone flax]

aintnoway tfw the ice cream machine got a sign that says “will be fixed tomorrow” and the customer is still complaining

[harsh dove]

Was gonna make me ask Mark for no reason too

[low grotto]

https://tenor.com/view/ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-happy-funny-śmiech-gif-22074544

[calm pulsar]

omegalul

[tawdry tree]

“dumbass”

[harsh dove]

Mark did his part smh

[tawdry tree]

Time for some self reflection perhaps?

[harsh dove]

https://tenor.com/view/smh-shake-my-head-bruh-phoenix-wright-pw-gif-18256821

[calm pulsar]

smhing my smh

[harsh dove]

Did you get the 40g for the RAWs?

[tender valley]

im pretty sure i got the middle of the 3

[fluid ravine]

Smh my smh to my smh

[harsh dove]

Oh so 50g

[tender valley]

so 50 i think

[harsh dove]

Hmm POMs should be really similar to that tbh

[tender valley]

then maybe i actually went 40

[harsh dove]

Maybe just the longer spring is what you’re noticing

Or that

[tender valley]

cuz there is a difference

[calm pulsar]

type of shii

[tender valley]

im gonna play a bit and wait how i feel about them, so far i think sound isnt worse on the ttc, its just a bit deeper imo#

[glacial wind]

Oh. It’s a bit amusing that I recalled mark telling someone a shipping code recently so I knew he helped with that before, but I didn’t expect it was mark literally telling him his shipping code

[calm pulsar]

the guy was supposed to be locked in and notice the code, but he was dilly dallying

[harsh dove]

Missed the nuclear launch codes

[scarlet kindle]

I remembered this 😭 I wanted to know about other products

[harsh dove]

oh btw @fluid ravine , Jade Pro Springs slap on the Duhuks

feels much better to me

stock springs too light

fingers feel weird

[tropic urchin]

Idk I randomly popped in and tried to scroll up and saw this

[honest sparrow]

Hello guys! My wooting 80he shipped today. One question, the standard cherry switch openers work for the ttc koms?

[tropic urchin]

Unless we like maxed out the server space idk

[calm pulsar]

es

[harsh dove]

Yes

[tawdry tree]

LOL

[harsh dove]

Yeah I nuked it

[honest sparrow]

Thanks guys ❤️

[tropic urchin]

What happened 💀💀💀💀💀

[tawdry tree]

yeah this is keyboard_modding 2.0

[harsh dove]

I dunno I lied

[calm pulsar]

lol if I scroll up I see this

[harsh dove]

It's a discord bug

[fluid ravine]

OMLLLLL

I need longer springsssss 😭😭😭

[calm pulsar]

let's go, gotta take them out of jade knights

[tawdry tree]

most polished discord experience

[fluid ravine]

Ples donate

[tawdry tree]

They’re like $10 on ali

[fluid ravine]

Right?!!!

[harsh dove]

Just don't get the dual stage Ali springs

get the normal ones

[calm pulsar]

true

[tawdry tree]

get some 400g ones

[harsh dove]

yeah

[harsh dove]

I wanna upload sound test but switches are freshly lubed

and need breaking in

[fluid ravine]

I know I asked before but that shi long gone

Any links?

[calm pulsar]

I would joke that you actually need longer hair but I won't

[fluid ravine]

500 monkey type session

Right here rn

[tawdry tree]

https://a.aliexpress.com/_Ey6N9T6

it’s from the same store the duhuks are on

😭

[harsh dove]

The switheskeys store?

[tawdry tree]

yee

[fluid ravine]

Omggg 22mm 62g springs?!!!

For me?!!!

[tawdry tree]

🥰

[harsh dove]

Can't tell if they tryna say Switch Keys Store or Swiss Keys Store

[calm pulsar]

THE HOOKS now in transit

[harsh dove]

my tongue gets stuck

[tawdry tree]

SwitchesKeysStore

[harsh dove]

No, Swith

Swith Es

[calm pulsar]

swithes keys store
probably intended to be "switches" keys store

[harsh dove]

Im going with Swiss

[tawdry tree]

U right lmao, I always autocorrected that lol

[glacial wind]

I like to think they specifically chose swithes as the name

[harsh dove]

Me too

[glacial wind]

It’s like companies that remove letters for no reason because it’s future techy looking

[calm pulsar]

ooting

[glacial wind]

Wait for the wttng 80he v2

[harsh dove]

Just HE V2

[glacial wind]

That would be a flex to just release a keyboard named “keyboard”

[harsh dove]

Frfr

[glacial wind]

I approve of our simplistic future

[harsh dove]

Type shi

[ionic breach]

nvm fk the cheese burger

[harsh dove]

I can't take myself seriously talking like Baldson

[ionic breach]

I just saw an abomination

[calm pulsar]

https://tenor.com/view/abomination-warcraft3-evil-gif-15230079

like this?

[glacial wind]

Order an iced Milo from McDonald’s

[ionic breach]

nah wait

[glacial wind]

Truly the best extra menu item in Singapore

I used to get Singaporean friends to go order an iced Milo in Australian McDonald’s just so the cashier would look at them weird

They learn quick that Singapore has the special menu

[honest sparrow]

Excuse me if this is dumb, but its better to ask than doing it wrong. Is it right like this?

[glacial wind]

That is indeed how megatron assembles from his car to transformer state

Correct

[harsh dove]

Freshly Lubed Duhuukies

Need to break in

[glacial wind]

Does the myth that if you order ice cream they deliver faster actually work

[ionic breach]

it's 2.53am

[glacial wind]

I’ve never actually tried it on purpose to compare

[ionic breach]

I don't think there's a queue

[chilly mural]

wtf, now you make me wanna eat Mcdonald tomorrow

[harsh dove]

best time for ice cream

[chilly mural]

same

[chilly mural]

Almost like muted typewriter

[nocturne python]

hii i recently accidentally broke my spacebar stabilizers trying to replace the keycaps and im trying to get it replaced, what kind of stabilizers should i buy?? and like do i need screwdrivers and what kind do i need?

[harsh dove]

I like it

[chilly mural]

just a ting whenever you press enter

[harsh dove]

yeah the top out is soft

cause of them lil stems they got

[harsh dove]

Those are plate mount stabilizer so you just need a tiny stick like a toothpick or a pair of tweezers to push in that little black tab and lift them up out of the plate

[harsh dove]

https://youtu.be/WN_-GYLTfpY?si=wh1M3L0yFfiA-vh3&t=235

Time Stamped for you

[narrow flax]

hm when keycaps u bought are not solid as you thought it would be

[calm pulsar]

just ascend to no rgb user and it's all good

[sour blade]

i feel like you either get translucent keycaps and rely on RGB for color,

or rely on solid vibrance of color from high quality keycaps

no in between

[narrow flax]

I should send them back right? 😄

[sour blade]

just make sure when you are buying you get Plate Mount stabs,

[little glen]

i had something similar (tho much less strong) happen to me with gmk cosmos

[narrow flax]

These are the AlohaKB Biotech

[little glen]

look at f, j and space

[narrow flax]

like 125 euros full price

[little glen]

i dont want to talk about full price of my gmk cosmos

[narrow flax]

I bought demo version for 90 euro

[sour blade]

damn

[glass comet]

is the ltp denggod switch compatible with the wooting

[harsh dove]

Yes

[safe stag]

do you prefer theses over the new kom pom ?

[harsh dove]

For me personally, yes, POMs still good though

[fluid ravine]

CAM what parts did you lube

I asked my friend to order me le springs lol

[harsh dove]

In terms of price these win for me over , RAWs, Jade Pros, POM,
both Jade Pros and POMs are expensive and before RAWs were sold in other stores, they were $60 shipping for me from Geon store

[stone flax]

duhuks better

[fluid ravine]

Duhukies springs stressing me out

[stone flax]

duhuk with geon spring

endgame he

still half the cost of poms

[harsh dove]

I don't like the 15mm springs tbh

Jade Pro springs feel better

[stone flax]

Tell gateron to sell springs

:3c

[fluid ravine]

Fr

[harsh dove]

Everything

lol

I tried not to add a lot tho cause there's already lube

[fluid ravine]

Typeee

[harsh dove]

so just tried to spread around what was already there

Cause they basically lubed everything on these

[fluid ravine]

Mkmk

[stone flax]

280 duhuks or 70 poms

[fluid ravine]

Should I wait for springs then lube?

[stone flax]

what to buy

i wonder

[fluid ravine]

Nah fr

[harsh dove]

really just the springs need lube tbh, stock lube feels good but I got carried away

[fluid ravine]

Haha realll

[harsh dove]

While I was spring swapping, I was like well, I already have them taken apart so might as well lube them

but not neccessary like the POMs

POMs NEED lube imo

TTC in general

not just POMs

[sour blade]

raw out of box lube is exceptional

at least in comparison to others

[fluid ravine]

Actually yeah ima wait for my 22mm springs then lube em at once

[fluid ravine]

Indeed

Duhuk stock lube is surprisingly good

[sour blade]

i didnt even know Dauhuk made HE switches

[stone flax]

i know them from hawk tuahs

[harsh dove]

Yeah RAWs basically same as Duhuks, just need to lube springs

both have good factory lube

All HE has dry springs tho imo

nobody wants to lube springs ig

[sour blade]

wait where are you guys buying dahuk he switches

i cannot find ANything online

not even reviews

[tawdry tree]

Ali

[harsh dove]

Cause they just came out

AliExpress

[sour blade]

ah

[tawdry tree]

I doubt they do but maybe mold share with Hejin who knows

[harsh dove]

Apparently Duhuk bought molds back in the day for some MX switches, who knows if they did for HE

[fluid ravine]

The most unexpecting things I found with the Duhuks yesterday during streams were prob the sound profile, lube job, and stem wobble.

[harsh dove]

They could be making them themselves but not sure

[tawdry tree]

Possible but I highly doubt it still, Hejin makes switches for so many brands (that sell switches themselves as well).

[fluid ravine]

Housing material for raws and Duhuks?

I forgot

[tawdry tree]

Top PC

Bottom fiber infused

nylon?

[harsh dove]

Did Heijin make the raws?

or GG?

[tawdry tree]

Hejin = GG

[stone flax]

Same thing

[tawdry tree]

GrainGold is just the english name/translation

[fluid ravine]

If both bottom housings are nylon and the Duhuks have the fiber glass infused in them, the fiberglass is doing maaad work

[harsh dove]

So then yeah they probably just requested by Duhuk then

thru Heijin

[fluid ravine]

I really noticed it when Frankensteining

[harsh dove]

Like Wooting thru TTC

[tawdry tree]

I’m not sure yet if the sound is more so because of the magnet sticking out or the bottom housing material. Probably both though tbf.

[tawdry tree]

Most likely to me, yeah.

[fluid ravine]

I think most likely both but def fiberglass

[sour blade]

how effective is this latch thing

gimmickey or nah

[fluid ravine]

CAM you home rn?

[harsh dove]

Yeah the Fiberglass is making them sharp and loud

[sour blade]

for reducing rebound noise

[fluid ravine]

If so can you check if the magnet sticks out in raws?

[harsh dove]

compared to standard nylon bottoms

[fluid ravine]

Gimmicky indeed

[harsh dove]

Not gimmicky

Actually works

Softer Top out

[sour blade]

yeah i hear it in the vid you sent

[fluid ravine]

Wait

[tawdry tree]

Those MX switches with the metal rod in the stem pole were just foreshadowing magnetic switches

[fluid ravine]

Me when I forgot what gimmicky means LOL

[sour blade]

has a really "isolated" sound

all good lmao

ill order some to try seem fun

[fluid ravine]

Yeah they work like a recoil or spring to absord the sound contact when topping out

[polar girder]

Yeah the raw franken vs duhuk franken was big diff

[fluid ravine]

👀

[fluid ravine]

Mhm

[harsh dove]

Hmm that's interesting

The RAW magnet doesn't stick out

but the Duhuk does

[sour blade]

raw franken is
duhuk stem in raw?

has anyone tried this?

[harsh dove]

RAW magnet is more recessed or almost flush with the plastic stem

[fluid ravine]

Ok then yeah it could be both of what aligner said with his statemenr

[fluid ravine]

Me

I did it in my stream yesterday

[sour blade]

is it fire

[harsh dove]

Duhuk magnet protudes out of the stem a bit

[fluid ravine]

Honestly, I forgot...

I have horrible memory

[harsh dove]

Makes me question who made these tbh

[sour blade]

.... should i take that as not impressive

oh

[tawdry tree]

Duhuks are the first Hejin switch with a its magnet sticking out

we had Peonys already

[fluid ravine]

Ask one of them if they remember

[harsh dove]

Ah okay

[tawdry tree]

but that’s it

[harsh dove]

Was gonna say

otherwise these made by someone else

[sour blade]

alr time to test duhuk

[harsh dove]

nah just changes the sound a bit, it's not a bad thing per se

[tawdry tree]

Duhke

Duhuke?

[harsh dove]

Duke

[fluid ravine]

Duhfuk

[tawdry tree]

TheHook?

[fluid ravine]

The Hookson

[cyan lark]

https://tenor.com/view/goofy-laugh-wide-eyes-gif-3247559636896710102

[fluid ravine]

Duhukson

[tawdry tree]

👀

[harsh dove]

yeah basically

that's how you have to sound when saying Duhuk

[fluid ravine]

The Duhukson

[stone flax]

So glad u never became a komsom

[fluid ravine]

Pomson

Pom pom

[cyan lark]

First time you KoM is when you become a Baldman

[tawdry tree]

Duhuk sounds like some starwars planet bro

[cyan lark]

(sorry sorry)

[stone flax]

no point when duhuks exist 💪

[harsh dove]

His parents would ask why these switches are $100 that's why he didn't get em

[tawdry tree]

Duhukians from Duhuk

[sour blade]

Duhuk doesnt even sound like anything remotely pronounceable in chinese

[harsh dove]

I still question where TTC came up with their pricing

[tawdry tree]

Duhok

[sour blade]

im assuming theyre chinese company if they have their product on ali first

[tawdry tree]

Kurdish

Duhuk is just made up or something?

[fluid ravine]

So real

[harsh dove]

I know I'd say no to my kid asking about $100 switches

https://a.co/d/eP7tGJs I'd get em one of these

$15

[sour blade]

it says gaming, should do the trick

[harsh dove]

and has lights

[harsh dove]

I thought it was Kurdish but I think that's Duhok

not Duhuk

but idk

[tawdry tree]

yeah that’s all I could find as well

maybe it’s an acronym

DUHUK

🤷

[cyan lark]

The next new US gov't department led by 19 year olds

[harsh dove]

Idk how I feel about POMs on Alu