🔧│keyboard_modding

[tawdry tree]

Then I wouldn’t get them @kind helm, there’s a reason they made a new design for sure.

I see, thank you!

[high sphinx]

Knight v2 is newest except for the knight v3 that is apperiantly new

[calm pulsar]

I suppose they are functionally tight, as in the magnetic tests and stuff, but in hand, without lube, they are kinda noisy I guess

[kind helm]

ahh maybe bad spring

[tawdry tree]

The monthly new Knight version.. 🥰🥰

[high sphinx]

Np you also helped me a lot i am happy to do solething back. Before i got mu swagkey knight v2´s i also was really confused but than i found out

[calm pulsar]

yeah the spring may not be as good as on jade pros as well

[high sphinx]

Haha yeah 🤣🤣

[kind helm]

you can tinker with it if you are free, maybe just a little bit of oil on the spring

a little bit of love

[flat cobalt]

@glacial wind have you tried these?

[glacial wind]

nah, thought about it but didn't buy em

someone did say they tried them and didn't particularly like them

[glacial wind]

oh you got your poms

[high sphinx]

In the video that i also send the person showed the normal swagkeys they are kot that bad but little bit more tuning

[glacial wind]

going to hand lube?

[kind helm]

did you lube yours?

[calm pulsar]

for sure, they need that really bad imo 😄

[glacial wind]

yeah i hand lube everything

especially ttc since they literally have zero stem lube lol

[calm pulsar]

I will wait till I get my luminkey lx60, do a new build with venom and try these out

[tawdry tree]

Makes sense but no real reason to go for them when Knights are pretty widely available and not that expensive.

[high sphinx]

Yeah true but josh wanted to stay in the same site since he was to lazy he said so maybe out of the options he sent those were the best but i am not sure tho

[kind helm]

dont worry about it, i am getting the owlab stab

[tawdry tree]

Not sure either, but the C3s do look interesting if they’re new.

[kind helm]

I am trying to do everything on the same site to save on shipping and ensure i get everything in time

[high sphinx]

Yeah i have read the owlab should also be good 😀

[kind helm]

oh yea they are definitely decent. I have used 2 sets from them and neither needed a lot of work

[flat cobalt]

I wish I could use the staebies but they don’t fit in my plate

[sacred elm]

😳

[kind helm]

my yikb just arrived probably later today or tomorrow i will build a mx board with salvation with fr4 plate and finally try out some gmk caps

[high sphinx]

Nice good to hear

[primal hound]

okay its built, thanks for the stab suggestions again

also sno, i ordered the switches off the store you sent yesterday and i already had one order from them on my account, so i guess it should be alright

[high sphinx]

Are the yikb stabs much different from the swagkey knight v2´s ?

[tawdry tree]

Yeah, very much so.

[kind helm]

probably not much different, i think mainly the difference in these newer stabs are their design, trying to create a least wobbly stab without requiring too much tuning

but honestly even the older stuff can be tuned to sound good, so like if you dont have stab of course you should buy the newer stuff. but if you have some old stab lying around, they can work great too. just a bit of extra work

that is my understanding :3

[tawdry tree]

https://tenor.com/view/sandpaper-sanding-sanding-wood-smoothing-wood-gif-13267186

[kind helm]

but yea in terms of the structure, the yikb one is unique right?

[tawdry tree]

Very.

[kind helm]

i think the structure is much better than the traditional stuff since there is way less room for the wire to rattle.

but it is a bit fat

if i remember correctly wooting's plate dont' work with them so well

[tawdry tree]

Woot’s plate doesn’t work well with a lot of stabs.

Knights and stock stabs are pretty much the only that fit well, afaik.

[high sphinx]

Yeah i fonna use my knight v2 stabs for my build i am so hyped i got my friction pad yestetday now awaiting my other parts 🥳

[prime orbit]

Too bad knight v2 are sold out everywhere lol

[high sphinx]

I already have them or do you wanna buy them ?

[prime orbit]

Oh you got them?

Where at?

Yeah I wanna gonna get them

[high sphinx]

I got them frol deltakey co a time ago i also have my geon raws i am now waiting for my pcb and plate, my case and brass weight and my gmk set oh and silicone civzrs for the standoofs that are the parts that i ordered but are shipping now only the gmk set still jas to arrive in deltakey co

[prime orbit]

Nice

[high sphinx]

If ur eu deltakey co is really good the knight stabs are now on sale also

[prime orbit]

Nah I’m NA

[high sphinx]

Oh ok yeah than i cant help u finding them unfortunate

[prime orbit]

Yeah all good

[flat cobalt]

Scared I’ll do it unevenly :c

I got these

I hope they fit in the plate

[sacred elm]

they do

[tawdry tree]

They will. They’re not so fat. 🥰

[flat cobalt]

[sacred elm]

varedis uses knight v2 with third party plate

same manufacturer

[flat cobalt]

I have these as well bought them sometime ago

[sacred elm]

as yours

[tawdry tree]

Those are fat. ☹️

You could get a custom plate honestly

[flat cobalt]

The staebies almost fit they’re just off by like 1mm

[flat cobalt]

For the 80he?

[tawdry tree]

Wait, we’re talking about the 80HE?

[sacred elm]

Yes

[tawdry tree]

No

[flat cobalt]

[tawdry tree]

Staebies, TX APs, and everything in between fit the 80HE just fine.

[sacred elm]

he has third party plate

[tawdry tree]

Ohh

[sacred elm]

some stabs dont fit

knight v2 and stock fit

[tawdry tree]

Yeah those stupid plates that support plate mounts.

[tawdry tree]

You can get a 3rd party plate that supports PCB mounts off of Ali.

Like $15-20

[flat cobalt]

FR4?

[tawdry tree]

Yeah

Sec

[flat cobalt]

Well what’s 1 more plate

[tawdry tree]

These are all PCB mount plates. https://a.aliexpress.com/_EJnuntw

[flat cobalt]

Thank you

[sacred elm]

thats what I got

[tawdry tree]

Yw!

[kind helm]

why not just use the stock stab

[tawdry tree]

Yeah, idk which idiot decided to make plate mount plates for the 80HE.

[flat cobalt]

I don’t like the white

[flat cobalt]

Big stabilizer to trick me

[kind helm]

you can't even see it

like white plate you wanna go black i get, white stab?

[tawdry tree]

KNOWING ITS THERE IS THE ISSUE!!

😭😭

[sacred elm]

both have same manufacturer, that ali plate and kittens plate, zxlab, i think theyre the same

but one is with flex cuts

[flat cobalt]

Just like I’m changing the silicone because it exist in the case not allowed

[flat cobalt]

So the AliExpress one doesn’t have the cool flex cuts?

[sacred elm]

no

[tawdry tree]

Flex cuts are not cool

[flat cobalt]

[tawdry tree]

on HE.*

[sacred elm]

also some stabs still wont fit that ali plate

[little glen]

third party iso plates when

[kind helm]

Let it go~ Let it goo woo~

[sacred elm]

so no point ordering another plate

just use your current one

[tawdry tree]

What?! 😂😂😂

There is no way they fucked the dimensions up

Which stabs don’t fit?

[sacred elm]

yea tx ap doesnt fit for example

[flat cobalt]

If the stock stabs fit the fr4 plate I have right now then the swag keys should fit it as well right?

[tawdry tree]

What the fuck

[sacred elm]

knight v2 fit

[tawdry tree]

Knights will fit any

[sacred elm]

stock stabs too

[glacial wind]

you just said fighting words

'cool flex cuts' gets you killed in some parts

[flat cobalt]

They look cool though

[sacred elm]

you never see them

[tawdry tree]

This is actually insane though, I don’t understand why no one can get stab holes right when there are standards to this shit.. 😭

[flat cobalt]

You ordered the FR4 and CF right?

[sacred elm]

Yea

Theyre on the way

[flat cobalt]

neat

I guess I won’t order another fr4 plate

[sacred elm]

Yea no need, if staebies dont fit that fr4 plate, it wont fit ali plate either

same manufacturer

[flat cobalt]

Maybe I should sand it down a tiny bit

[sacred elm]

You can try

[tawdry tree]

Shafie, you tried to use TX APs in your plate and they didn’t fit?

Or you’re just going off of it being from the same manu?

[sacred elm]

No, turing told me they dont fit

he tried

[tawdry tree]

Turing has this ^ plate though right?

[flat cobalt]

The staebies fit the stock 80he too bad it’s ugly white and PC

[sacred elm]

He has aliexpress plate

[tawdry tree]

Hmm, I’ll ask the store rq

[sacred elm]

@cyan lark you ordered your plates from ali right?

[cyan lark]

No I went though Toronto keyboard man

[jagged cypress]

so i wanted to mod my wooting 60 but dont know what i can change to it
I alr ordered a coiled cable and keycaps
if you guys have any idea i would appreciate it if you could dm me

[sacred elm]

😳 ah, I thought you got from ali. nvm

[sacred elm]

you can try other switches and plates

[cyan lark]

Still haven’t popped my Ali cherry. Created an account though, so almost!

[jagged cypress]

can u recommend me a nice case

[tawdry tree]

That’s what I thought, yeah.
@flat cobalt you can try the plate I sent as there’s no reason to be skeptical of its compatibility. It’s very likely that they used the standard size but I’ll let you know when to store replies as well.

[stone flax]

[stone flax]

modify with a purpose

are u asking what you could do or what you should apparently do

[sacred elm]

there are many options🤷‍♂️ optimum from wooting, tofu60 redux from kbdfans

[stone flax]

cuz the only thing you should realistically do is tune your stabs if they sound had

[sacred elm]

alumaze

[stone flax]

Frog mini

[tawdry tree]

Is the Salvation gamble still up?

[stone flax]

ended

Friday

[tawdry tree]

☹️

Sadge

[stone flax]

i could get one if i beg my friend to sell me his white a-stock

[kind helm]

https://www.ashkeebs.com/product/salvation-keyboard/

[stone flax]

but he said its sentimental

[tawdry tree]

who cares. get it!

😂😂

[stone flax]

😭

[kind helm]

not as many optiosn but 164 to 186?

[stone flax]

im holding out for 60cu

[tawdry tree]

I ordered foam for the salv

[stone flax]

I much prefer frog in many ways over salvation

even angle

when gaming

[kind helm]

i need to try frog

[tawdry tree]

Haven’t tried frog yet.

[stone flax]

i scored a crazy deal

$255 for a built frog with 60he module raptors and keycaps

Selling the module and allat for 140

[kind helm]

wait so you have 2?

[stone flax]

Means i got the case for 115

[stone flax]

nyope

[tawdry tree]

Are the different tadpole hardnesses noticeable?

[kind helm]

ahh i thought you got one from geon firsthand

[stone flax]

salvation v frog n.n

[stone flax]

by the time i wanted one was the time he stopped selling then

0.0

[kind helm]

https://tenor.com/view/copium-cat-gif-27161395

i am happy with tofu

[stone flax]

need to take a better frogie pic

[kind helm]

dk about frog but for the bowl on tofu 2.0, basically higher stiffness is a little bit higher pitch :3

i just stick with a soft bowl because i really like the feel of it

[stone flax]

thats how it usually is

increasing hardness increases thuddiness

[tawdry tree]

I wonder how it’d be for a quiet build compared to the salv

[stone flax]

cant wait for geon sale

[kind helm]

between tofu and salv i think salv is a little bit more quiet

[stone flax]

50a tadpoles and alu frog plate

[pure osprey]

I'm having a true first world problem, I ordered two sets of caps and now can't decide which to use haha.

[kind helm]

me on the other hand hope to try pp on salvation some time later on

[stone flax]

use both

[stone flax]

i used pp on a salvation

oh wait i didnt

n.n

It was alu mb

[tawdry tree]

salv is pretty good for both low and high pitch

[kind helm]

honestly i really dig the airy/openess of it

[pure osprey]

Can only use one at a time on my main board! What I need is two 60he on a slider to swap between whenever I guess 😄

[stone flax]

[tawdry tree]

I need a frog to compare the salv to 🥴

[kind helm]

same

[stone flax]

i was imagining smth like this

[kind helm]

from arc and mj's vid it seems like frog has a little bit more cleaner sound

btw possibly leggra on feb

[pure osprey]

Ah I see what you mean , I like them both equally and they are already mixed colours. I think I just need to flip a coin I'm being silly

[stone flax]

for geon int’l or stuff like tb?

[kind helm]

the Sauceinmyvein guy is owner of a store that is partnered with geon

[stone flax]

typistclub

?

[kind helm]

he mentioned that for cn and kr its gonna be after asian's spring holiday

so some point after 2/4 i think

[kind helm]

he made the HMX Hyacinth

[stone flax]

hate him then

[calm pulsar]

forg

[pure osprey]

installed TTC POM KOM switches, realised now it makes backlight a purple hue which is a very mild irk.
These are certainly "clacky", the jade pro are very marbly in comparison.
Kinda wish there was a switch with the jade pro noise profile + TTC POM stability/feel in action.

I dunno if the keycap market has changed over the decade + where I used to by GMK caps every so often but its refreshing to see a nicer packaging style after receiving a couple of sets from osume, everything is in nice small trays not long trays that end up going everywhere and its nice to store these all on the shelf.

[cyan lark]

The RGB change on them hasn't bothered me much either, and I agree that their feel is tops at the moment. I'd love for a switch that feels like KoM and sounds like Jade Pro for my "night mode" (quiet) setup.

[polar girder]

Lolz big difference

Yeah frog is on another level

Mounting difference is big

Friction fit pad is goated

Venom 60HE still in stock

🤞it lasts until the sale

[calm pulsar]

I have yet to install my poms, but I have the same observation, jade pros are still better on bottom out feel and sound

[kind helm]

did you buy a whole set or just a few to try it out

[calm pulsar]

70 😄

where is your role 😮

[kind helm]

i washed away my sin

[calm pulsar]

venom gang

[kind helm]

i think it would kinda make sense to use some foam for kom, its a gaming switch afterall, just use foam to tone the sound a bit :3

[pine anchor]

What do you guys recommend for a first new mod

[harsh dove]

What case do you have?

[polar girder]

Fk bro

Making me want Jade pro now

Probably just go with this tho

They don’t have PCB plate foam tho rip

[kind helm]

why is bro getting more raw he

[harsh dove]

Wym

I see some in your list

Is the foam set not plate foam?

[kind helm]

the foam set thing is meh but 6 dolla is pretty cheap

[polar girder]

Right I meant like PCB.5mm foam

Not plate

[harsh dove]

Ahh

[polar girder]

I don’t own any Raw

[harsh dove]

The thin one

Like a switch pad

[polar girder]

Yeah that

[harsh dove]

Gotcha

[polar girder]

I used wrong words

[kind helm]

wait you been using black knight this whole time?!

[polar girder]

lol yeah

[harsh dove]

All good mane lol

[polar girder]

I might wait for Raw to come to test nylon vs pp

Makes more sense than testing with black knight then switching to raw

[harsh dove]

I need to get a pp plate

[kind helm]

i think you can just get generic 60% ones and cut them

[harsh dove]

I kinda want cf and pp frog mini plates

[pine anchor]

the normal one

its the

60he+

so idk

[harsh dove]

Normal abs plastic one?

[pure osprey]

i think if price is the same you cant go wrong with either of those twitches (TTC POM magneto) or jade pro, they trade in different areas but both very good really.
I am surprised how much of a difference the jade pro vs jades are as I picked those up ages ago to try and while they were better than the first lekker switchs and whatever version came with the origina 60he they still had big stem wobble.

[pine anchor]

i dont know the difference

[pine anchor]

think its the normal one

[kind helm]

isnt ttc way way more expensive 0.0

[harsh dove]

For a first mod I’d either get a new case or gummy mount that case

Or try new switches if you’re using stock

[pine anchor]

whats a gummy mount

[pure osprey]

they are from a lot of places, I managed to get 70 for £40 and 70 jade pro for £35 so not much in it but typically the TTC ones seem to be nearly double the price (which I would say is NOT worth that difference)

[harsh dove]

It’s where you take a o ring and wrap it around the PCB and the plate and kinda friction fit it into your case and it changes the sound profile and feel of the board

Cheap and easy to do

[harsh dove]

Yeah like that

[kind helm]

does it mean you gonna get the nylon plate?

[polar girder]

I have this thing:

But it acts more like tape mod

[polar girder]

Well I have both for Wooting 60HE rn

[calm pulsar]

is it a harder material? I dont like those for sound

[polar girder]

Just need to test and see which one I prefer for venom

[kind helm]

ahh i thought you just had pp

[polar girder]

I have pp, nylon and aluminum for frog/wooting

[polar girder]

It’s like a foam but with a plastic backer

I tried my darndest to separate them but no dice

[kind helm]

honestly if i were you i am not getting venom, i rather wait for wooting to get their shit together then waste 2 special special plates

[polar girder]

Yeah I didn’t like it either

[calm pulsar]

yeah I prefer cloth like ones, less of the tape mod layering

[polar girder]

I doubt Wooting ever does south facing caps lock LED and/or 7u tho

[kind helm]

i think they would at least do 8k

[polar girder]

Even if they do bump up to 8k polling inevitably

[polar girder]

Yeah that’s what I want

Something that just absorbs sound. Not reflects it

[kind helm]

yee idk, i am a hater so i dont have high hope for wooting

[polar girder]

I mean I have high hope but not really for that niche shit lol

[kind helm]

also @harsh dove isn't this pretty much the same as using a pe foam/sheet

or i am tripping like i always am

[polar girder]

I was trying to find the bag for it but it’s XRD foam I think

[harsh dove]

The switch pads ?

[kind helm]

ye

[harsh dove]

Yeah kinda

[polar girder]

I want a switch pad foam sheet, and a plate foam

The Geon plate foam for venom looks hella minimal tho

[kind helm]

you can get a big wrap off ali/amazon then cut it yourself

its like commonly used for packaging stuff

[polar girder]

That would be a lot better

[kind helm]

they are hella minimal xD

[polar girder]

That looks hella mid

[kind helm]

mr. arc warned me, i got it but i feel like i would never use it

[polar girder]

Maybe not even worth buying

lol right

[kind helm]

probably better to get some generic ones and cut out the portions yourself

[kind helm]

cause essentially same thing as what this is

[kind helm]

thanks

[polar girder]

And I don’t need the case foam since I have kilmat in the frog

Yeah prob

[kind helm]

this one is stiffer than poron

not sure what material but stiffer than wooting's poron foam for sure

[pine anchor]

Can u show me how it looks like

Also how do I get the ihavewooting

[kind helm]

on wooting's website you can link your acc to your discord account

[harsh dove]

There was a picture sent above

By Josh

[kind helm]

me as a white name peasant with no role not trustworthy

[calm pulsar]

yeah its whatever
no foam gang

[polar girder]

Meh

[flat cobalt]

I’ll order it just for fun

It’ll look lame without the flex cuts though

[little glen]

your keyboard needs the air vents to go faster?

[fluid ravine]

Gotta unlock that 10k polling rate yknow

[tawdry tree]

[flat cobalt]

I’m gonna sand the current plate a bit to fit the staebies, gonna go to the store and buy a file

[sacred elm]

https://tenor.com/view/angry-thiago-mad-angry-fist-emoji-gif-17761307

[flat cobalt]

Ready to file plate for stabilizers

[calm pulsar]

hope you're not filing fr4

[flat cobalt]

I am

[calm pulsar]

bro

there's fibers of glass in there

💀

[flat cobalt]

Respirator though!

[tropic urchin]

that poor plate about to get the Guantanamo bay treatment

[flat cobalt]

I used to play on insulation I’ve been cooked bro

[calm pulsar]

you could also file the stabs lol

[flat cobalt]

True

[tawdry tree]

You were fr 😭😭 just get the plate for $20 and save your lungs.

[flat cobalt]

I don’t like the stock stabilizers and I don’t wanna use ugly PC

[tawdry tree]

😭😭😭

be careful man

cancer isn’t fun from my understanding

[flat cobalt]

I’ll wait until Tuesday I guess since that’s when I get the Swagkeys

[mental shell]

I just bought 80 geon raw he for my first wooting. Hope they're good.

[tropic urchin]

They’re nice, creates a strong first impression out of box smoothness and has probably the best stock lube job

[flat cobalt]

They're good, they make you appreciate the Jade Pros even more

[sacred elm]

[tropic urchin]

https://tenor.com/view/ember-sword-embersword-rpg-mmo-gif-16663374

[chilly mural]

geon raw is soo good it makes me wondering what's wrong with my other keyboard

[sacred elm]

jade pro is favorite switch of your favorite switch

[kind helm]

filed plate over pc plate

[stone flax]

dont breath it in

[flat cobalt]

I didn't do it in the end

Since I have another FR4 coming in ;-; and I get the swagkeys on tuesday

I'll just wait lol

[flat cobalt]

PC plate ugly :C

[stone flax]

file the stabs under running water

[kind helm]

that is smart

[flat cobalt]

:c idk if I should just wait for the new plate or do it

[reef oar]

you can't unfile it

just wait no?

[barren wasp]

How should i efficiently handlube my jade pros?

Like what specific spots

[fluid ravine]

Cleaning my keyboard rn but if anyone is wondering abt the friction pad here ya go

@stone flax

[stone flax]

friction half pad

[fluid ravine]

I'm try to use none for the alphas for now

[uneven cradle]

[fluid ravine]

@cold bloom does your when lube, does your nixies feel scratchy even with the scratch sound?

[reef oar]

there are many tutorials online, just watch one

[fluid ravine]

Dont mind just showing the Thackson activities

Should beg tf out of my mom for some lube

I can't stand these stuoobid stabs

[uneven cradle]

At least your other case isn't getting abused anymore

[tawdry tree]

just wait.

[fluid ravine]

LOL

[rain harbor]

hey does anyone have optimum case with geon raw switches?

[sacred elm]

scroll up a bit

[knotty iron]

anyone tried Holy60 with friction fit

a bit strange given the way the inner walls are of that case is like

but does it work?

[tawdry tree]

Probably, I don’t think the inner size of the Holy60 is different from the Tofu.

[knotty iron]

it will just be kinda strange to use the friction fit, or at least sliding it in

that will be tough haha

i think

[tawdry tree]

It could be slightly more loose or it could be just as tight. With the Holy, it would be easy getting it out though, just stick your finger through a hole on the bottom and you can easily push it out. 😂

[knotty iron]

except that I wanna use the cover haha

i can take it out the way Sander did tho

wedging it out by a corner

[tawdry tree]

Then a hole on the side will do! More than enough holes on the Holy. 😂

[tawdry tree]

Yeah, that too.

[knotty iron]

wanna bet the Holy60 has 60 holes

[shut adder]

I'm assembling my keyboard, and there's still one part to arrive. If I lubricate the other parts in advance, will there be a problem? Will they dry out or something?

[barren wasp]

No

[tropic urchin]

lube wont dry out, but it'll spread out evenly with use over time. Id lube what parts you need to that way you wont need to do it later

then you can enjoy your board in peace

[cold bloom]

yeah they aren't lubed too heavily

[flat cobalt]

Ayyyy I'm getting my swagkeys one day earlier

[fluid ravine]

Bro I got a key cap STUCK IN MY CHAIR

[stone flax]

u got nixies?

[vagrant yoke]

Hey js joined the cord not too long ago cs i js bought a 60he+

I ordered it the 2nd of this month and the shipping said 2-6 days

[reef oar]

shipping is usually 10+ days if you're overseas from NL

think mine took 2 weeks and i'm in the uk

i had to pay import taxes separately

[inland jetty]

@kind helm i got mineral wool otw xD, lets see how good/bad it works on the zinc case when it comes. Aiming for clacky

[low flame]

Jades or geon raw?

[reef oar]

jade pro >

[low flame]

Jade pro max?

[reef oar]

no

just jade pro

[uneven thunder]

what makes you say that?

[reef oar]

general consensus

i guess i'm not the PERFECT person to ask considering i have jade pros and i've never tried geon raws

people with geon raws will suggest geon raws

they're basically very similar though

[tropic urchin]

Jade pros vs Raws will have diminishing returns when compared to each other, but it just depends on what you want really. If you want better stock lube, want brighter RGB and dont wanna pay too much then RAWs are a perfect bet for a clacky build

I do also like having the longer spring for jade pros, but what kinda turned me off from RAWs when I put mine into my build was that it just was more muted with PC plate and just had a chalky sound to it that I wasnt a huge fan of and got jade pros when they went on sale shortly after

[reef oar]

all i know is, my jade pros feel amazing even stock. i'll go over and lube them myself to make sure they're peak, but i think they're worth it

[uneven thunder]

so raws are more clacky and jades are deeper?

[tropic urchin]

its going to be smaller differences between them and not everyone will care

[tropic urchin]

id say that RAWs have a brighter pitch to them than jade pros, but both are pretty clacky imo

[uneven cradle]

Geon raw hes are usually quite a bit cheaper and are also extremely well factory lubed

[reef oar]

very slightly, other factors are gonna affect that more like your case

[tropic urchin]

one sounds a little closer to a typewriter and the other sounds like you're slamming tiles on a marble floor

[uneven thunder]

i have an optimum case

[reef oar]

optimum case is nice and thick

[tropic urchin]

you wont go wrong with either switch between RAWs or Jade Pros, but just depends on what you value

[uneven thunder]

would they sound bad on the stock plate?

[reef oar]

no

[fluid ravine]

Ic

Was thinking abt some stupid shi like removing the lube off the stems from my raw's for no reason

Have the top housing lubed and the bottom slightly lubed

Idk nixies just gives me the tickles

[fluid ravine]

Nope
If I had a mx board nixies would be my first choice prob

[knotty iron]

but yeah if you want a nice switch based on my personal experience I would say Geon Raw HE is insanely good. I haven't tried Jade Pros but most people are comparing to the Geon Raw HE, so pick and choose I guess! Neither is bad

[stone flax]

why

[cold bloom]

I think these have the stem sliders lubed but not the bottom housing, and the leaf just a tiny bit

not positive tho

[inland jetty]

watch the video, thackson or josh linked you yesterday 👍 taht will give you an idea what you need for the sound u want ❤️

[uneven cradle]

Gotta be a real cherry scratch enjoyer for nixies

[cold bloom]

fs

[uneven cradle]

Definitely not for everyone

[fluid ravine]

No clue
I just like them, I don't focus on mx that much anymore but nixies just makes me happy lol

[stone flax]

oh ok

just dont get mx2a lubed

please

Also please dont get them above 30 cents

😭

[inland jetty]

yo u like experimenting right?

[fluid ravine]

But the scratchy thought of the nixies got me thinking if I could get some scratch out of the raw's without feeling too scratchy

[fluid ravine]

Hell yeah

[inland jetty]

i got a wild idea for you LMAO

[fluid ravine]

If it's affordable or doable in some way

[fluid ravine]

Spill em

[inland jetty]

bro what if you used lard for stabs and stab wire lube LMFAO

[fluid ravine]

I could try bottom housing rails lubed maybe the floor? Top housing lubed and stem unlubed

[uneven cradle]

How's 21 cents

[fluid ravine]

I'm sorry what

What's lard

[inland jetty]

pig fat

🤣

[fluid ravine]

Bro- 💀

Would make the switch feel sluggish

[reef oar]

how about motor oil

[uneven cradle]

Just don't ask how much I paid for shipping

[fluid ravine]

Guarantee that

[fluid ravine]

Hey Hopperbus

How much you pay for shipping?

[reef oar]

$23

[inland jetty]

nah not the switch, just the stabs and stab wires. 😂 but yeah it probably iks too thick at room temp

[fluid ravine]

oh well the stab will sluggish anyways

yea yea

[inland jetty]

it would be crazy if they end up working well

[reef oar]

what if

you stuff the housings with cotton

hold up

[fluid ravine]

[uneven cradle]

I don't wanna talk about it

[fluid ravine]

Just whisper it

[uneven cradle]

Also Geon with the free shipping right now on international orders over $60

[chilly mural]

2 more days!!!

[uneven cradle]

I get paid tomorrow

[fluid ravine]

Someone should buy me the venom Frfr so I can buy it from them later after they go out of stock or sm shit

[chilly mural]

maybe ask somebody near your area?

[uneven cradle]

I saved $14.90 so it's OK

[fluid ravine]

HAH guess what nobody's interested in keyboards here

[chilly mural]

$30 shipping, damn

[fluid ravine]

At least you didnt hit 100

[reef oar]

evading taxes i see

[fluid ravine]

[uneven cradle]

Import tax doesn't kick in here until like $560 USD

[reef oar]

yeah yeah yeah, say that to the irs buddy

already informed them

[fluid ravine]

I don't wanna grow older

I scared

[reef oar]

you have to

[fluid ravine]

My knees are already squeaking
Ee er

[reef oar]

you can't respawn

[fluid ravine]

[uneven cradle]

It's alright I pay more taxes then the IRS would be taking from you anyway

[reef oar]

[uneven cradle]

I pay this thing called living in the middle of nowhere tax

[stone flax]

I cant wait for geon

free

shipping

[polar girder]

SAME

cart ready

[uneven cradle]

Must be venom time

[marsh saffron]

is it worldwide?

and when?

[chilly mural]

15th Jan, 11AM

[uneven cradle]

https://geon.works/collections/2025-event

[marsh saffron]

60 usd or more 😭

[chilly mural]

When the shipping is like $20, it's def worth

[marsh saffron]

20$?

try 50-60 for 70 raws

[chilly mural]

yeh

[marsh saffron]

smile

[chilly mural]

There could be a vendor on your region

[marsh saffron]

there is not

[chilly mural]

Oh, guess this sale is the only way for you to get raw for an acceptable price then

[marsh saffron]

mech.land or deskhero dont stock them

[chilly mural]

https://divinikey.com/collections/geon-switches/products/geon-raw-he-linear-switches

Also US based

[marsh saffron]

cheaper

still not paying 100 cad for switches

[chilly mural]

oh, canada, I don't know any vendor that stock raw there

[marsh saffron]

there is none

at least not yet

if anything i have to try aliexpress

[chilly mural]

you could try

[uneven cradle]

It's like $41 USD on aliexpress to ship them to NZ

For 70

[harsh dove]

I need a 5090 and a new monitor bro I can't participate

[uneven cradle]

You already have enough stuff from Geon don't worry Cam

[harsh dove]

want* not need but you get me

[harsh dove]

yeah I didn't even look at whats in this tbh

Yeah I don't need any of that

few days and my Protag supposed to ship

[uneven cradle]

I don't really need anything either but I do want venom plus a few plates

Maybe a little alu and CF plate 👀

[harsh dove]

https://tenor.com/view/dreams-are-expensive-joshua-leesman-players-dreams-cost-money-costs-money-to-succeed-gif-25975512

[wicked fable]

Is the 80he RGB improved over the 60he?

[gusty wadi]

my friend sent me his vr US to the UK and it cost like 150 in shipping alone

[vernal jay]

does doing a tape mod put the actual keyboard in any danger or anything
and can you do it w/o dissembling the entire thing or naw

[sleek cove]

Bro how does your spacebar sound so good? I heard your soundtest ur spacebar sounds amazing

@fluid ravine Could you say all mods you did to the board? If u got time ty

[fluid ravine]

It's kinda funny cus I think it's absolute shit tbh, it's bone dry stock no lube or grease in the stabs and im running RAW HE with Switch Tape Mod for each of the modifiers

[fluid ravine]

Wooting 60HE
Geon RAW HE 60g
Optimum Case (7 Degree feets + Silicone Standoff/Posts Covers + Stock Foam)
GMK 80082
CF plate
TX AP Plate Mounts (Bone dry, Switch Tape Mod on the RAW's for each of the modifiers)
Friction Pad

[sleek cove]

Your keyboard seemed like its gasket mounted on the video though u had a mor of flex

[fluid ravine]

Pretty basic Optimum Configuration Build

[fluid ravine]

which video?

I posted quite a lot

So i'm not really sure which is which but I could tell through the sound prob

[sleek cove]

The one you sent yesterday

Without foam

[fluid ravine]

can you link it?

[fluid ravine]

My dream is to have a house

that sounds expensive don't it

[flat cobalt]

What mods are you gonna put in it

[fluid ravine]

THOCC

CLACK
CREAMY

[flat cobalt]

https://www.switchkeys.com.au/products/volt-plus-keyboard-kit?

[uneven cradle]

[kind helm]

that is gonna make the board deeper i think

[tawdry tree]

@flat cobalt the hole width is 7mm so they did in fact follow the standard perfectly and it’ll be compatible with all PCB mounted stabs I know of.

[kindred sandal]

Hi, I was thinking of getting a different case and buying the PCB, but since the case won't come out till May, I was gunna just get the pre-built variant.
Concern is once the case comes, am I able to just take apart the pre-build and put the board into the new case?
it's not like it's locked together if you get the pre-built variant, just wondering.
otherwise I'd just get the module variant and wait
Thanks

[tawdry tree]

Yeah you can just swap the case, which case were you thinking of?

You can also use the Module variant caseless.

[kindred sandal]

https://kbdfans.com/products/gt-80-case this guy

[kindred sandal]

wait wut

hol up lol

just play on the PCB?

[tawdry tree]

Oh, 80HE. Do you mean the 80HE Module with case will take longer?

[tawdry tree]

Nah, for the 60HE that’s fine but not for the 80HE. The 60HE Module includes a foam piece you can put under the PCB but the 80HE doesn’t.

[kindred sandal]

ahh I see

[kindred sandal]

the case is a pre-order so won't come out until May, so I wanna use a placeholder until the case comes out

just making sure if I buy the pre-built as a placeholder, I can take it apart as if I built it myself

[tawdry tree]

Yeah but the 80HE Module comes with a case.

[kindred sandal]

and that it's not like glued or locked if I buy the pre-built,if you catch my drift lol

[tawdry tree]

You can!

[kindred sandal]

yeah the plastic one, which I'd have to put together

[tawdry tree]

Yeah, it’s not. You can quite easily disassemble it. Wooting’s Youtube has many videos on it.

[kindred sandal]

perfect

[tawdry tree]

You could get the 80HE Module rather than the prebuilt if you have switches and keycaps already.

[kindred sandal]

I do but with it only being $12.50 difference, from the module variant with my own switches and caps, I don't mind just getting the pre-built and just leaving the switches and caps aside until the case comes

thanks Aligner

[tawdry tree]

Np!

[kindred sandal]

side question, are they planning on releasing another layout anytime soon? TKL, volume knobs, etc.?

I know the 80HE just came out like 2 months ago

[tawdry tree]

Nothing like that has been announced/leaked so most likely not.

[ionic breach]

a full kb would likely be a least another year

tho knobs are an "active project"

[kindred sandal]

thanks thanks

[gleaming crane]

Anyone know where I can get a silver plate for the 60he

[flat cobalt]

Awesome thank you

I ordered it this morning

Doesn’t have flex cuts though

We’re so cooked

[tawdry tree]

It’d have to be a custom one. I don’t remember any 3rd party plate being silver. KBD’s alu is black.

[tawdry tree]

[flat cobalt]

What’s your favorite type of plate material?

[tawdry tree]

PC but that’s only because I haven’t used PP or POM yet. I like soft.

[flat cobalt]

I don’t think I’ve seen PP

[tawdry tree]

There’s always more time for that, dw.

[quasi hinge]

I got a cf plate recommended by @glacial wind

Will use in the 80he

Still on the way

But some people here have been praising it

[tawdry tree]

More clack! More clack! More clack!

[quasi hinge]

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005008042712779.html

[quasi hinge]

lol

I want to see if I can notice any difference when playing. My 60he+ in the alumaze is noticeably firmer compared to the 80he

[harsh dove]

My CF plate will be here Thursday it looks like and my TTC POMs just cleared customs

[steel sail]

What's the best he switches with 3.8-4mm total travel, im weary on how the reduced travel switches will feel

[kind helm]

60 or 80?

[high sphinx]

Venom arrived 🥳

[kind helm]

6.25u

[harsh dove]

80

I already have cf for 60

[high sphinx]

Yes i have friction fit pad from wooting so i had to get 6 25 u

[high sphinx]

Also wich firmware u are on ?

[kind helm]

just forced a screw in board onto tofu

for mine, it is similar tightness to using poron pad with gummy oring

[kind helm]

i updated both my pcbs to the latest stable version

[flat cobalt]

I can’t wait for my aluminum plate

[high sphinx]

Beta or stable ?

[kind helm]

tofu redux with brass weight, foam tape + gummy oring mount, jade pro, cf plate

now it is time to build me a mx salvation

[harsh dove]

I forgot how to snap and type

but heres my mx salv

[kind helm]

i was gonna ask, did you get the hotswap one or the solder one?

[harsh dove]

hotswap

[kind helm]

good so we both lame

i think the solder one has more flex cuts on the pcb

if i remember correctly

[harsh dove]

I can't remember tbh

[kind helm]

i gonna use the fr4 plate

it is so pretty

[harsh dove]

yeah I have the avocado pcb

[harsh dove]

I'm using an alu plate on mine

[inland jetty]

deeper if i dont use any pet sheet film or pack the case too tight

[high sphinx]

Hey i got a question where can i change the led from the profile ?

[high sphinx]

nevermind i found it i just had to update to beta firmware

[quasi hinge]

Nice and may I ask why the ttc poms? Just curious

[harsh dove]

Just to try em

See if I like their clack or not

[worthy rock]

i just got my wooting 60he even after watching youtubers saying the keyboard sounds horrible, but mine sounds super thocky and nice stock, did they change the switches or did i get a fluke or am i just crazy?

i just recorded a video of it but it sounds worse on the video

[harsh dove]

Nope, not crazy, the switches are a newer revision of the originals with tighter tolerances but otherwise the same switches. Some people like the stock sound just fine, nothing wrong with that

[quasi hinge]

Okay thanks!

[calm pulsar]

TTC POM's design seems wobble proof, but they are very dry, so they really need lube
also the light diffuser wobbles left and right which is kinda annoying, I might just remove them when I reassemble them after lubing lol

[glacial wind]

The stem of ttc is similar to the Sahara desert in dryness

[harsh dove]

Good to know lol

[glacial wind]

It’s cause a lot of YouTubers come from mech keyboards so they grade on a scale of ‘worst he switch to best mx switch’ which puts even the best he switch at subpar even though they’re really not bad overall

Lekker v2 are overall okay, just that they sound a bit empty compared to a top tier mx switches, but average person is going to find them perfectly okay sounding

Wooting 60he+ has also come a long way from the rattly chattery sound of the old v1 batches. Both the stab lubing and the lekker v1.5/2 changes have basically removed all the chatter sounds

[calm pulsar]

@glacial wind do you know the spring specs on TTC POM? can't seem to find that info

[harsh dove]

21mm

[kind helm]

i never tried it either :3

[calm pulsar]

woah, I guess that's why they feel quite snappy

there's spring noise on topout even, so they def need lube, but the length is nice

[kind helm]

i just finished with fr4 build, kinda regret not using alu, feel weak compare to alu for sure

[glacial wind]

Yeah 21mm for all the kom stuff, I bag lubed all of mine

[kind helm]

gateron speed silver, salvation, fr4

[harsh dove]

Ah okay, yeah the Jade Pros have 20mm and they sound springy to me a bit

[calm pulsar]

yeah I can also see why they are the best on all the stability tests

I hope lx60 gets to me soon so I can do the ttc pom + venom build

[kind helm]

would be a interesting build

mx's actuation feels weird now after i got used to he

[calm pulsar]

loving the caps

[kind helm]

me too

[glacial wind]

yeah it's super noticable how much more stable they are when swapping between boards

it's like you kind of get surprised that it just goes straight up and down with no real side play

[kind helm]

after trying mx i dont think salvation on he is really wasting potential actually. i think the openness/ airiness of salvation actually balance out the harsher sound on he quite nicely

the bounce does feel nicer on mx :3

[tawdry tree]

At 4mm total travel you’ll only find open bottoms but at 3.7mm you can find closed bottoms as well. Whichever one’s sound profile you prefer most.

Impressive: https://x.com/0000_fafa/status/1878685933786300867

ふぁいもし／imoshi (@0000_Fafa) on X

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安いGateron Jade Gamingみたい
底打ち時の軸ブレはTTC KOMよりも体感小さい
打鍵音は高音でうるさめ
KS-20互換
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Twitter · Jan 13, 2025, 6:10 AM

[high sphinx]

I found it i just had to download beta firmware

[kind helm]

ah good to know, thank you sir

i wanted to turned of the rgb on the cap actually

[kind helm]

that cap is nice for testing

[tawdry tree]

Yeah

TTC vs Yiqian

wobble is pretty much the same.

[blazing isle]

ive been thinking about switching out the switches on my wooting 60he as some of the switches are beginning to stick and not bottom out, what would be easiest and best for someone who basically only uses the keyboard for gaming.

[sacred elm]

jade pro or geon raw

[blazing isle]

what are the differences between those two

[sacred elm]

slight pitch difference

[blazing isle]

is the first one the jade pro

[sacred elm]

yes

[blazing isle]

much prefer that, where do i buy them from

[kind helm]

i think raw with the special bottom design has a unique sound to it

and jade pro is clean and snappy

[sacred elm]

aliexpress?

[blazing isle]

got a link? also, do they come pre lubed or is that something i would have to do myself

[kind helm]

both pre lubed and good stock

but raw with some lube on the spring would sound a bit deeper

haven't tried lubing jade pro

[blazing isle]

is replacing the switches easy to do for a total beginner?

[sacred elm]

yea

very easy

you just need switch puller

[kind helm]

you would need to buy a tool that cost a few dolla

i assume you brought the one that came with a plastic case?

[blazing isle]

yea

[sacred elm]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/984799440072220692/1323624378042417163/IMG_1084.mov?ex=6785ab83&is=67845a03&hm=ae14a2217c62d0b623b4507d7f267833142b0d61e2e1cff49ad72469db9767f3&

[blazing isle]

ah shit thats free

thank you guys so much

[kind helm]

that one has steel plate so it is a bit more difficult, but just try to wiggle instead of holding on to the puller too tightly

like what he did in the video he wiggled a bit forward and backward

that is easier than pulling directly upwards

[sacred elm]

pulling switches is way easier on my 60he

[kind helm]

i think jade pro is just harder to pull ngl

and stiff plate harder to pull also

[sacred elm]

nah ive tried, theyre easy to pull

[kind helm]

my raw is hella easy to pull now after using them for a while, but the jade pro on cf plate is a bitch

[sacred elm]

maybe my plate is poop

on 60he

[blazing isle]

do you have an aliexpress link to the switches, ive never used aliexpress before and have no idea what im looking at lol

[sacred elm]

https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256807906115759.html?

[kind helm]

dk, my alu plate on raw and cf on jade pro are made by the same people. raw is significantly easier to pull for me

[sacred elm]

yea, my steel plate was kinda poop on 60he

it had slight tolerance issues

[kind helm]

but honestly if you are only replacing the lekker that were originally on the 60he, you dont have to worry about breaking them, just somehow someway pull them out.

[sacred elm]

yea they are garbage

[blazing isle]

thanks so much!

[sacred elm]

jade pros will be a massive improvement

[kind helm]

this time it is not me who said it

[reef oar]

my cf plate has arrived

[frank mica]

as an fyi, aliexpress is literally amazon (at least in the U.S, all deliveries from them are done by Amazon) and the only rule of thumb you should follow is to buy from a seller with the most orders (1000+ preferred for common items)

its actually a great way to get Amazon Prime-like delivery service and get huge discounts on cheap items like plastic zip ties, tape, screws, etc.

even cheap fabrics are safe & insanely cheap. for example, i bought some mousepad sleeves for 3$ and the exact same product (same pictures, seller) is 15$ on Amazon

[kind helm]

what setup are you doing

[reef oar]

just swapping out the pc plate, making it tofu 60 redux w weight, jade pros (gonna relube before i swap the plates), poron foam, stock relubed stabs

[kind helm]

gummy oring?

[frank mica]

can you gummy the 60he+?

[kind helm]

pretty sure it is doable

but you would have to use either plate mount or clipin

[reef oar]

yeah i put the gummies on the standoffs

[kind helm]

those tiny ones?

i dont think they are the same as gummy oring, but yea i think you can achieve similar effect

[reef oar]

they're not

[frank mica]

that's burger mounting

[frank mica]

i was told some came with the wooting stock

[reef oar]

i think they came with the module

[kind helm]

ah, i dont think these are as good as oring though, since they are smaller, they are not going to be as soft

[frank mica]

oh ic

i havent seen anyone do gummy on 60he+ and badseed had a video mentioning some reason as to why you couldnt

[reef oar]

yeah i mean i guess that's a small improvement i could make to my board, but it'd be annoying to order a £1 item and have £15 shipping

[kind helm]

screw-in stab being too fat, stiffer gummy oring can't fit

60he+ you can still use plate mount, because the only thing really "+" about it is just extra holes on the pcb

[frank mica]

well i liked gummy as it let you get friction fit and foam

yeah im not well versed enough with these mods

or the board

[reef oar]

i've never friction fit, i might try it if i ever swap cases

[frank mica]

it sounded like a major improvement for the optimum case when it came to sound and im looking to do the simple and effective mods when i upgrade

since gummy sounded like the better alternative to the friction fit pad, as you cant use foam with the friction fit

i thought i'd consider it but you cant do it with a 60he+ unless you plate mount (idk what this means tbh)

i just wish there were more videos explaining friction fitting mods

[reef oar]

yeah, it's a little more niche so there is gonna be less on it

but i don't even think it's too complicated anyway

it seems pretty intuitive

[kind helm]

Well the idea is, instead of using screws to secure the pcb onto the case, you use friction to do it. Without using screws, the typing experience would be less stiff and more even.

especially with friction pad, the force is more evenly distributed than gummy oring. the disadvantage with friction pad compare to gummy oring is that you are forced to have a layer of silicone on top of the pcb which modifies sound in ways some people don't want

[frank mica]

meh

me happy with stoch 60he+:

https://tenor.com/view/splobbert-brap-spongebob-spongebob-meme-spongebob-movie-smile-gif-12619753890274973006

[kind helm]

plate mount is talking about plate mounted stabilizer.

[kind helm]

yea preference

[reef oar]

i enjoy the sound of my board rn, i just didn't like the slight mushy softness at bottomout that pc was giving me

i'll experiment with friction fit in 2 years

[celest parrot]

Hello guys, what are the best switches in the market rn?

For the 80he

[reef oar]

depends what you want

[celest parrot]

Like best feel

[reef oar]

it's like a broken record here at this point but

[kind helm]

normal people say raw he, edgy people say jade pro, nut job say ttc :3

[reef oar]

jade pro or raw he

[kind helm]

in terms of feel though probably ttc based on what people say

[celest parrot]

I have raw he but didn't install them yet cuz I installed one and didn't like the sound profile that much

[inland jetty]

this is how i feel when doing keyboard stuff lmfao. I would take my sweet time.

[reef oar]

ong

[celest parrot]

Tysm boys appreciate your time

[reef oar]

i'll leave it for future me

[inland jetty]

no lie, it took me like 3 days to fully lube my first lekker switches, it was so damn boring i had to take breaks LMFAO

[kind helm]

lubing is overrated in 2025

[reef oar]

fr? it's kinda therapeutic for me

[sacred elm]

other way around

[inland jetty]

josh is about to get whacked by someone here for saying thata

[reef oar]

put some music on and thd time flies by

[reef oar]

i was gonna say that but i'm biased

[sacred elm]

I have both

[reef oar]

i think we need to start a war

[frank mica]

this is a blessing for average consumer (me)

[reef oar]

jade proers vs raw heers

[frank mica]

im gonna get lekker l60 v2

[kind helm]

think a lot of switches that are made after 2023 have great factory lube

[inland jetty]

faactory lube is a blessing for sure. I hope it gets to the point where we can barely tell between hand lubbed and factory lube

[reef oar]

the factory lube on my jade pros are great

it's just nice to go over it again for peace of mind

[frank mica]

expected a lot more feedback on this choice ngl

[inland jetty]

you do you brotha

[frank mica]

(considering no one recommended it)

[reef oar]

lekker v2 isn't dogshit

[kind helm]

it won't ever get to that point because some people like heavier lube some people like lighter, but i think we already pass the point where a lot of the stock are great

[frank mica]

[kind helm]

jade pro and raw he are great without lube

[inland jetty]

i was rocking the v1's for years on my 60he

[kind helm]

ttc appearently is dry af, which is why it is only for crazy people

[reef oar]

lekker v2s are so cheap too, you really can't blame someone for rocking them

[inland jetty]

damn, someone else also said they were bone dry

[kind helm]

lekker v2 apparently is already up charged

[frank mica]

personally the stock 60he+ is the smoothest and best sounding kb i've ever used so it's hard to throw away the switches that make that sound

https://tenor.com/view/i-dont-want-to-play-with-you-anymore-toy-story-i-dont-wanna-play-with-you-anymore-dont-wanna-play-no-more-play-gif-26906930

[kind helm]

ignorance is a bless

[reef oar]

crazy

[inland jetty]

sound is very subjective. Just get what sounds good to you. Glad you love em.

[frank mica]

i havent seen a single sound test wow me with the other options, they all sound like shades of grey to me

[kind helm]

i am just messing with you, i think if you got the lekker v2 they are good enough :3

steel plate i would personally consider a sin but who cares about my opinion

[frank mica]

i was going to swap the plate for wootimgs aftermarket

[inland jetty]

that will become his gateway drug to owning more keyboards 😂

[reef oar]

join the cf church

[frank mica]

i own 2 mice, 1 mousepad, 1 monitor

[reef oar]

soon you'll be buying a keycap set per month

[inland jetty]

if you stick around, or ask im sure there are a lot of recommendations for other good he boards

[frank mica]

im getting blank black

[inland jetty]

i dont think wooting is the fastest anymore

[kind helm]

nothing that is good and budget friendly in HE yet imo

[reef oar]

not fastest but

when the difference is like

sub 1ms

can you really care

[kind helm]

dont worry, still probably the most expensive one, no one taking that title

[inland jetty]

oh nah, nothing is budget friendly without a compromise for sure xD

[frank mica]

web software >

idc if other competitors have it wootings works

[inland jetty]

software is big for me too

[frank mica]

my last three keyboards were from razer and i only realized i could use openrgb on the very last one

[tawdry tree]

downloadable software > web

by a long shot.

[frank mica]

the webpage caches, they're all downloaded

[inland jetty]

ahhh, wooting is better than razer by a mile. It was a huge upgrade for you

[tawdry tree]

As long as a company offers both, it’d fine. But when they only offer web, 😬😬

[frank mica]

again, the website caches

u are downloading software regardless

that's why you get a notification saying wootility can be used offline, on the website

[reef oar]

i just don't like shit in my tray

[kind helm]

mr. aligner is trolling.. his role in this channel: "60he i was there"

[frank mica]

[tawdry tree]

permanently?

how can you save it

rather than the browser clearing cache after a while

[tawdry tree]

nooo 😭😭

[reef oar]

open the page?

i'd assume it'd only clear the cache after like a month of never opening wootility

[frank mica]

u got me there but chrome doesnt clear cache with default settings

[reef oar]

actually that's a lie

bc you'd hear people complaining

[inland jetty]

wild, it doesnt mention my batch for 80 he @.@

[kind helm]

think you gotta go on their website to update it

[tawdry tree]

If there’s a way to permanently save it, then yeah that’d be fine too.

It’s just that some companies now started to offer only web based which really isn’t a great thing.

Most don’t seem to care about it though

Cause “web is better anyway”.

[inland jetty]

i guess ill give it a few hours. I didnt see anything new tho after pressing the thing on the website

[kind helm]

maybe you brought fake 80he

[reef oar]

i used to have a dogshit pc for so long. i am permanently scarred from trying to limit every app on startup and closing shit on startup in my tray

[inland jetty]

aliexpress 80he

[reef oar]

even with my good pc now, i'd still be annoyed at software on startup

that's a rare personal case though

[inland jetty]

disable them from starting up via task manager

[reef oar]

dw brother, i did legit everything on that rustbox to eek out every single frame

[tawdry tree]

If someone thought those holes in the bottom of TTC’s were for sound, we were wrong. They’re for airflow to COOL the magnets. 🗣️🗣️🗣️

[frank mica]

i was going to get an 80he but opted for 60 and i program 90% of the day

it just kind of looks ugly imo

[kind helm]

what the fuck?

[reef oar]

has this ever actually happened though

[tawdry tree]

Idk if it’s actually serious or just something marketing made up.

[inland jetty]

even switches overheat nowadays 🤣

[tawdry tree]

They all have holes, so yeah.

[reef oar]

well yeah

[kind helm]

also holes were haimu's thing

[reef oar]

but is it a problem that happened and they were like "yo we need to fix this"

because i have never heard of that in my life

[tawdry tree]

your thing* 😂😂😭😭😭😭😭

[inland jetty]

all of a sudden, youll start seeing honeycomb switches for the maximum airflow

[kind helm]

yea and my thing

how dare they

[tawdry tree]

not a problem, just an optimization. I highly doubt the validity though.

The heat created is so little

[tawdry tree]

sue em bro

[reef oar]

yeah makes sense

can't complain about it

just wondering if they're fighting ghosts or not

[tawdry tree]

exactly 😂

[frank mica]

what about hot environments?

[kind helm]

cant sue evil big companies

[frank mica]

sure it might be evenly hot but it just compounds over time

[reef oar]

we need a case study on this

[tawdry tree]

that definitely has an effect but it’s on the whole board and calibration takes care of that afaik.

[kind helm]

I can't agree more

[tawdry tree]

there are a couple HE boards with temperature sensors on board to help the calibration. Woot isn’t one of them though.

[kind helm]

i still dont understand how tf did wooting end up with that layout

[frank mica]

the little bar of rgb is like the cherry on top

its peak gamer design

ironically, the best gaming centric board is the 60he+

[kind helm]

i know venom gets warm, i hear 80he gets warm with rgb + 8k

[tawdry tree]

everyone asked for a tkl, so you gotta do something a little different ofc.

[tawdry tree]

60HE too

[kind helm]

yea imagine giving people what they want

[tawdry tree]

bad for business

[reef oar]

the light bar is shit too. i said it.

[kind helm]

never noticed, but venom at some point i felt the warmth on my case

[frank mica]

i already said this

[reef oar]

guys i don't want an led bar for no reason

PLEASE

[tawdry tree]

With thin metal cases (redux and alumaze included) you can really feel it.

[reef oar]

my redux gets condensation

it sweats

[tawdry tree]

dw, you can just “turn it off”. 👍

[frank mica]

in their defense tkl still looks like a small board, and i can imagine they wanted to make an in between (of board size) between a 60% and 100%

80% is literally in the middle

[tawdry tree]

I like compact layouts more

[kind helm]

that case being the way it looks is partially why i dont wanna buy from wooting anymore

[reef oar]

why not just abide to standards which are standard for a reason though

[stone flax]

Its not a tkl

[reef oar]

twelve keyless

[frank mica]

because they're a gaming company, not a keyboard enthusiast company

[tawdry tree]

77.5% 😂

[frank mica]

80 still sold well

and we all agree it looks like a gaming keyboard

moreso than the 60

random light bar is peak gamer design

[reef oar]

yeah true

i mean enthusiasts were gonna get an aftermarket case anyway

[stone flax]

Why do they sell zinc cases, why they put in acoustic foam and have sillicone pads

offer case options in site

[kind helm]

with that layout aftermarket case is harder to get and way less options

[frank mica]

to be the best gaming company? razer sells aftermarket upgrades

[stone flax]

are they

thats new to me

[reef oar]

yeah. let's just follow the industry standard next time

[frank mica]

from a consumers standpoint

[stone flax]

lol

[frank mica]

why do you think i got a 60he+

[stone flax]

oh ur new

[frank mica]

because all the yt'ers recommended it