🔧│keyboard_modding

[little schooner]

You guys think it's worth swapping the lekkers in the two HE for the V2s?

[tawdry tree]

Yes, IMO. Have you tried other switches?

[little schooner]

mechanical? yeah. HE? no these are my first

[tawdry tree]

Could try Raw HEs or Jade Pros instead of going from V1s to V2s.

V1s to V2s are definitely an upgrade but it’d be more worth to try something else I think.

[little schooner]

I'll look into those

[vapid oracle]

Gotcha. Would the sound be different if I switched keycaps or kept the ducky keycaps I have rn?

[tawdry tree]

Keycaps affect sound but I wouldn’t bother if you like the current caps.

[vapid oracle]

There just the ducky key caps that came with the Mecha I’ve had the board for years and the caps are still in great condition

[tawdry tree]

Yeah they’re fine.

[polar girder]

Yeah similar. Pingy generally considered kind of high pitch also

[tawdry tree]

I feel like it’s a bit of both. Like a sharper pingy sound with a bit of case resonance on top.

Alumaze was similar but less sharp

[kind geyser]

Hello guys, it's ok if i post photos about my modding here? i finished it

[sacred elm]

ye

[tawdry tree]

Ofc!

[cyan lark]

Strongly encouraged

[kind geyser]

oks,, lets go

[tawdry tree]

well

[cyan lark]

Oh no

[tawdry tree]

jfif

tf is that

lol

[kind geyser]

hahahahaha, second

[devout totem]

It's a peanut butter brand, I think

[polar girder]

Definitely!

[tawdry tree]

Looks good!

[kind geyser]

1-EVA foam 2mm + foam by default, i put both, default foam is behind the eva foam

[tawdry tree]

Did you stick the foam to the back of the PCB?

[kind geyser]

3 layers of frogtape (green)

i stick the frogtape to the back of the PCB

the foam dont stick, its just foam, makes the keyboard more stable, better sound, etfc

[tawdry tree]

Ah, it looked like it

[kind geyser]

i got geon raw he switches, photo number 3

then i got arcade keycaps PBT, XDA profile

[tawdry tree]

😳

[sacred elm]

😭

[tawdry tree]

That’s pretty crazy

does your LED still work?

[kind geyser]

it works, why u ask?

[tawdry tree]

You need to rotate the switch.

So the window/diffuser faces left.

[kind geyser]

rotate how? it's north fading right?

[tawdry tree]

I don’t know how you got it that far in tbh

[tawdry tree]

For all keys but ISO enter.

[kind geyser]

iso enter is left facing? 😄

[tawdry tree]

Yes

[kind geyser]

hahahah i had to push 5 mins for place that switch

[tawdry tree]

Should’ve been a warning in the box

[kind geyser]

i almost broke it

[tawdry tree]

😳😳

[kind geyser]

now it makes sense

hahahahaaa

[tawdry tree]

A few people broke their LEDs like that

you’re lucky!

[kind geyser]

well idk if it still works

[tawdry tree]

I hope it does.

[kind geyser]

ok, gonna try change it :D, sec

[vapid oracle]

It’s only for the enter key you need to turn the switch to the left for the whole board ?

[tawdry tree]

For ISO enter, and it’s just the enter key.

Well for the numpad “+” and “enter” too.

[kind geyser]

bro i think i gona let it be haha

[tawdry tree]

No please don’t

[stone flax]

this is pog

[tawdry tree]

the mounting pin is stabbing the LED in the eye

[tawdry tree]

Weights below the weight?

[stone flax]

replaced the foam battery fillers with adhesive wheel weights

[tawdry tree]

Ohh

[tawdry tree]

what’s the weight of each?

wheel weight.

[cyan lark]

I'm not a car guy, TIL about wheel weights. Makes sense for balancing.

[kind geyser]

it died

i got it out, but now i place it again and led doesnt work

a minute of silence for him

its left facing right?

[tawdry tree]

😭😭😭

[tawdry tree]

Yes, with the window/diffuser to the left.

Another LED lost to mounting pin.

gg

If you can solder or know someone who can, you could get it repaired.

Woot has loose LEDs that you can buy if you send them an email.

[kind geyser]

its fine, actually when i play or work i wont even notice the leds xd

and prolly i gona use the board without the leds i had a corsair k70 whole my life and had leds off always 😄

anyways thanks for the help

we'll pray for the soldier key

[tawdry tree]

You’re welcome man, it’s a nice build.

[kind geyser]

thank u

[tawdry tree]

What are the keycaps by the way?

[kind geyser]

arcade keycaps, PBT with XDA profile

its from a spanish seller, dont send u link cause it's only spanish version

[tawdry tree]

Np!

[kind geyser]

on amazon u have some, but not only purple, its like evangelion theme

if not try get some of aliexpress

[vapid oracle]

Was there any dampeners when you opened up your ducky mecha ? @tawdry tree

[tawdry tree]

Dampeners?

[vapid oracle]

Silicone and foam *** under module

[tawdry tree]

There was a plastic sheet

No silicone, foam not sure

I used the Module’s foam

[vapid oracle]

That could be the reasoning of a high ping sound

[tawdry tree]

Yeah but the Module’s foam didn’t help much

[vapid oracle]

Hmmm okay so the ducky stock didn’t have much under it huh? Damn

[tawdry tree]

I don’t remember it having foam but maybe it did and I threw it out.

The thin plastic sheet was odd though. I still don’t understand what it was for exactly.

[kind geyser]

´

[vapid oracle]

If it does I’ll keep it in there with the module foam as well. Yeah I don’t think plastic would do much imo.. but there’s gotta be a reason or they forgot to take it out when manufacturing

[stone flax]

each square is 7 grams

so i added around 200 grams

[cyan lark]

What's that in freedom units, a fat hamster?

[tawdry tree]

I thought it was for static maybe but it’s screwed in so it wouldn’t make sense.

[kind geyser]

bonus track for u bro 😄

[tawdry tree]

That’s great.

[kind geyser]

led broken on first video, sound of keyboard on second

[cyan lark]

Are those KoMs I hear?

[tawdry tree]

Raw HEs

[ionic breach]

[devout totem]

Get some tungsten sheet stock for weight
https://www.mcmaster.com/7301N31/

[cyan lark]

Was ready to perform the baptism 😢

[tawdry tree]

Do you use double sided tape to prevent them from rattling?

[devout totem]

You can but I prefer adhesive transfer tape

[stone flax]

fuck foam

we are a metal weights household now

[cyan lark]

Foam is for sleeping, metal is for rocking 🤘

[devout totem]

This 3m vhb transfer tape has worked well for me
https://www.mcmaster.com/7628A52/

Datasheet https://www.3m.com/3M/en_US/p/d/b40065871/

[polar girder]

I like foam

Absorbs sound waves

I want a STFU HE board

[noble light]

Yup! Had to figure it out the expensive way. They are definetly not compatible!

[tawdry tree]

Can’t get around foam if you want a quiet build.

Silicone doesn’t do it.

[polar girder]

Exactly

[tawdry tree]

Neither does nothing.

[cyan lark]

I'm with you.

Or at least, a balance.

[vapid oracle]

So foam does nothing ?

[tawdry tree]

^

Foam is a sponge

🤪

[vapid oracle]

Lmaoooo

[polar girder]

Fr

[marsh saffron]

My x-ray set finally shipped

[spice apex]

@tropic urchin i bought those cheap sketchy jade pros off that amazon link and they’re legit

[kind geyser]

i think foam is a must, atleast for me, without it there is a big gap in the keyboard

[spice apex]

so i just saved like $16

[kind geyser]

and it doesn't feel good, atleast for me

[spice apex]

i agree

silicone is horrible

the nk87 i’ve been trying to fine tune so it doesn’t sound god awful has silicone between the plate and pcb

trying to find a foam insert instead

[marsh saffron]

I liked silicone with my lekkers

But foam + jades sounds way better than with silicone

[kind geyser]

i place eva foam and it feels great

atleast for me, u can give it a try

[spice apex]

holy shit

the nk87 is so bad that it’s $50 on novelkeys

$225 -> $50

[tropic urchin]

Atleast they’re not lekker pros for your looting 80HE

[spice apex]

my wooting is on its way to ups

🙏

[tropic urchin]

Hope you enjoy your jades tho 🙂

[spice apex]

i’m gonna lube them once i get home

gonna lube the regulars another time

[stone flax]

what keyboard

[tropic urchin]

My rec would be probably to stick to the stem (if you want) and spring mostly. Messing with Top and bottom housing might have the lube go overboard

[cyan lark]

At that price one could look at it as a 50 dollar alu til case with a bonus board!

Tkl*

[kind geyser]

80he

[spice apex]

the case is pretty garbage ngl

it’s a friction fit

[cyan lark]

Only on neon green as well

[spice apex]

yea

ugly color

[stone flax]

skill issue then

[vapid oracle]

Anyone got any recommendations when it comes to color coating a mouse. I want to color up the blue to black

[stone flax]

buy a ulx comp

if a board cant sound passable without foam then thats a bad sounding board

[vapid oracle]

Lol nah not waiting another 6 months for my final mouse to appear at my place😭😭😭😭

[stone flax]

i waited 3 weeks

[chilly mural]

Why so bad?

[vapid oracle]

Cap

[stone flax]

?

[chilly mural]

also wtf 225???

[vapid oracle]

No need to lie ☠️😂

We all know how bad finalmouse’s shipping process is

[stone flax]

?

the drop was oct 21

oh mbbb

3 weeks and 1 day

🤣

[vapid oracle]

Damn that’s a first 😅😅😅

Usually always delayed for months you got very lucky sir

[stone flax]

nah im just him

never luck all skill yfm?

[spice apex]

case mounted pcb

the sound dampening is god awful

[stone flax]

case mounted pcb?

do u mean tray mount or something

or stack mount?

case mount can mean so many things

[spice apex]

i think tray mount

it’s mounted to the top case and then screwed into the bottom

[honest nacelle]

So, top mount?

[spice apex]

idk it’s like a combo of multiple

i’ve never seen this mount on any other keyboard

all i know is that it’s shit

[honest nacelle]

This is top mount

[stone flax]

just checked

its traymount

[reef oar]

190 for a mouse is crazy

[marsh saffron]

Finalmeme moment

[polar girder]

What’s Competition about it?

$190 isn’t outrageous

[tawdry tree]

the name

[tall parcel]

Got more horsepower

[stone flax]

You have to compete against the other scalpers and botters for a place in line to buy it 💀

[calm pulsar]

@harsh dove spotted on Klean's stream hehe

[polar girder]

So competitive

☠️

[vapid oracle]

FAX☠️😂

Defiantly a end game mouse forsure

[polar girder]

Meh

[fallen pecan]

logi is way behind in the game these days

^latency in ms

VS the big bois

[chilly mural]

Oh

That logitech HE is finally there

[calm pulsar]

venom

[chilly mural]

Sad it lose against Melgeek and Nuphy

[chilly mural]

Yesh, venom, best. Maybe I get venom 60he if geon decided to do another preorder

[calm pulsar]

I think it is likely, esp since the firmware is being updated from time to time

so glad I managed to snatch one from korea before it started selling out everywhere

[calm pulsar]

but I did see them on aliexpress btw

2 vendors

[chilly mural]

I prefer getting it straight from Geon

For now geon on tiger lite will do as a curiosity

[polar girder]

Fk bro so am I

Imagine still using a 60HE in 2025

RIP Me

[stone flax]

taobao time

[pallid knoll]

I was about to go on a YouTube expedition, but thought I'd just ask here first. For those who have tried the Jades and Jade Pros, for the Pros:

1. Is the sound a deeper thocc, or a higher pitch?
2. Are the keys 'heavier'/harder to press?
3. Do the keys rebound faster, slower, or the same?

[dry rune]

for lubing my stabilizers do i need like a "real" lube for it

Can I just use something I can find at my house lol

[cyan lark]

1. Yes sound is a bit deeper
2. Objectively yes, but only slightly
3. Faster

[pallid knoll]

Alright. Purchasing. Thanks. 😆

[dry rune]

what stabilizers are good for the 60he?

[pallid knoll]

This might be a dumb question, but I'm seeing listings for GATERON Magnetic Jade Pro, as well as kutethy GATERON Magnetic Jade Pro - are these the same things?

[stone flax]

the ones that come with it

[stone flax]

i assume that kutethy is just a seller on amazon

[dry rune]

I mean it doesnt sound good

[stone flax]

have you already tuned them

[dry rune]

No

I still kinda dont know what tuning means

[stone flax]

ok

do that first

https://youtu.be/xlSIIZqyQR0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vxHb6CJc9V8

[dry rune]

I mean they wiggle

[stone flax]

"they dont sound good"

[dry rune]

Also that

[stone flax]

going off of that

just start with tuning

lubing what needs to be lubed, greasing what needs to be greased, and balancing wires if need be

even if you bought new stabs youd more or less be doing the same thing anyways

so might as well do that to the stabs you have on hand

[dry rune]

So can I just use some random shit at my house to lube them

[stone flax]

not at all

[dry rune]

Bruh

[stone flax]

i mean u can try, but it is not going to be a good experience most likely

[dry rune]

But wooting states they are prelubed right?

[stone flax]

unless u have dielectric grease or something similar on hand then u can definitely use that on wires

[stone flax]

states?

oh

yeah

they are

but more likely than not u could still be facing stuff like rattle so

[dry rune]

But I mean if they wiggle doesnt that affect the sound too?

[stone flax]

wiggle mean mean so many things

send a video if u want

[dry rune]

ehh

Guess I have to order that shitty fucking lube for literally a few stabs

[pallid knoll]

Another instance of Amazon being an annoying beast. Recommended Jade Pro 90 pcs option was AUD $145 from Amazon Germany, arriving in Australia January 4th. Yet if I head into the almost-hidden 'other offers', I can buy from Amazon US for $135, delivered on January 2nd.

Go home, Amazon. You're drunk.

[stone flax]

i mean

dude u were planning to buy new stabs

u were still going to have to lube them up in all likelihood

whats the difference with doing that to the stabs u already have on hand?

[dry rune]

But some of them have those screws

[stone flax]

wait

are you on a non plus

[dry rune]

so atleast it would stay in place and not wiggle

[stone flax]

?

[dry rune]

yes

I said 60he

[stone flax]

.....

my guy

there arent even stabilizer cutouts on the non plus for screw-ins/pcb-mounts

those stabs arent even compatible

[dry rune]

Oh right ofcouse that too

[spice apex]

he got it

[dry rune]

[stone flax]

just do these

[stone flax]

...

[spice apex]

just get durock v2s for $30

[stone flax]

bro no

[spice apex]

but theyre sooooo worth it!

[stone flax]

nuh uh :((((

[spice apex]

also my uhhh

kbdcraft and wooting are being shipped

big ups

[cyan lark]

Likely Amazon sellers being Amazon sellers and slapping their nonsense names on things

[dry rune]

I just hate that I have to order them

[cyan lark]

Gateron makes the switches

[spice apex]

yea nothings gonna be deliverd til next year too

[spice apex]

yo buy those kutethy gateron magnetic jade pros

i ordered those and just got them today, and theyre legit

for like a solid $16 cheaper than retail

[pallid knoll]

Just did! Did some searching and yep they're just another seller, legit product.

Good price it seems.

[vapid oracle]

I bought Gateron Jade pro’s for 55$ today on Amazon

[pallid knoll]

90 pcs?

[spice apex]

rip dawg

[spice apex]

do you have a 60he or 80he

[vapid oracle]

Yeeee that 10% free code I got came in clutch

[pallid knoll]

80he

[spice apex]

idk the switch count for that 😨

i think it might be 81

[pallid knoll]

83 I believe.

Yeah something like that. 😄

[spice apex]

uhh

thats like $56 through kutethy right

[pallid knoll]

USD $69 through kutethy

Down from $76, or so they say

USD $89 including shipping and Australian GST tax for import.

Still cheaper than buying local, by a bunch.

[stone flax]

ansi is 84

iso would be 85

[pallid knoll]

All I knew is that I needed the 90 pcs switch set, hah

[stone flax]

two times the cost of geon raws

dastardly lol

[dry rune]

I paid like 50 euros for 70 geon raws

[stone flax]

i paid 40 bucks ish

[pallid knoll]

I already replaced all the switches with Jades... now just days later it's time for the Jade Pros.

[pallid knoll]

Are they better, though? Or are we in subjective territory?

I like the idea of the longer spring on the Jade Pro.

[dry rune]

don't ask me

[stone flax]

fake

[pallid knoll]

Anyone want to buy some Jades cheap? 😆

[dry rune]

5 euros + shipping

[pallid knoll]

DEAL

No, wait.

[cyan lark]

I don't think it's terribly worth the money to upgrade from Jade -> Jade Pros.

[dry rune]

U live in the us?

[pallid knoll]

Australia

[pallid knoll]

I'll let you know. 😅

I'm sure I'll have ragrets.

But whatever.

IT'S CHRISTMAS, TREAT YO' SELF.

[dry rune]

So I'd have probably pay more for the shipping + taxes even if I got them off you for 5 euros

[pallid knoll]

Hahah yep

Realistically, they're going to another Aussie.

Onto the Bay they go.

[dry rune]

Wish I had money

and a job

and lived on my own

So I could

like

keyboard

wooting

and shit

[pallid knoll]

Through Amazon, Geon Raw HE is slightly more expensive for me than the Jade Pros anyway.

[dry rune]

I bought mine off aliexpress

But I still havent got them

probably like in 2-4 weeks

[pallid knoll]

Ah yeah, much cheaper on AliExpress. AUD $98 instead of AUD $135 for the Jade Pros.

[cyan lark]

You needn't, I have both and am speaking from experience.

[dry rune]

Just got the new case too its nice

[pallid knoll]

Well now I feel like I should cancel the order, hah 😄

https://tenor.com/view/panik-kalm-calm-meme-memer-gif-20895926

[cyan lark]

It's just my opinion. I do think they are better than the originals.

[pallid knoll]

If they sound deeper and the force required + spring-back is slightly more pronounced... I'll like them more. I guess it's just a question of how much more.

[cyan lark]

Sure, and they may be a worthwhile upgrade for you. I just found the difference kinda subtle, but still nice.

I didn't regret it.

[pallid knoll]

You keep the OG Jades, or on-sell them?

[cyan lark]

I kept them all. I'm sitting on a dragon's horde of switches.

[stone flax]

geon raw he

geon raw he

geon raw he

🔛 🔝

[cyan lark]

I think geon's sound nice and have awful build quality.

And the stickiness at the top is a little 👎

[pallid knoll]

The click sounds really thin in that video. Is it just the video? I like a thicker, deeper sound.

[stone flax]

fuck foam

cam has a similar build but with better recording setup

[cyan lark]

Geon has a deeper sound than Jade/Pros

[hybrid cairn]

peak testing, js spammin "\\" every now and again

[cyan lark]

It's hard to intimate how something sounds via recording without recording them all at the same time w/ the same settings

[stone flax]

its backspace

[hybrid cairn]

i assumed as much js funny to see "\" lel

[stone flax]

i use split bs but wooting has none

so i just rebind

[vapid oracle]

Jade pros better

[hybrid cairn]

split whatnow

[stone flax]

split backspace

[hybrid cairn]

we love gunshot spacebar

[stone flax]

Seen here ^^

[hybrid cairn]

so like backspace right above enter key?

[stone flax]

yeah

[hybrid cairn]

gotcha

[stone flax]

and then u make swap the stabilized key usually with tilde and pipe

[hybrid cairn]

~ and what now

[stone flax]

pipe

[hybrid cairn]

what

[stone flax]

| \

| \

that

[hybrid cairn]

you call that pipe? i call | bar

[stone flax]

its called pipe

[hybrid cairn]

have i been lied to my whole life

[stone flax]

😭

it could be called bar idk

[cyan lark]

See I think it sounds much better from afar - same w/ most switch recordings. At least of switches I like the sound of.

[stone flax]

all sound recordings are a lie and the best they can offer is comparison :<

[hybrid cairn]

i knew i wasnt trippin

[cyan lark]

Pipe / vertical bar are interchangeable names for it. Neither is wrong.

[hybrid cairn]

https://tenor.com/view/lethal-company-horderbug-yippee-gif-gif-5658063361159083327

[stone flax]

ya

[hybrid cairn]

ya

[cyan lark]

I imagine pipe is more popular among programming nerds, same as how # is called "hashtag" by children.

and octothorpe by assholes

[hybrid cairn]

ngl hashtag is common among adults too, its called pound by people in more professional fields in my experience

[hybrid cairn]

ahahahahahahah

octothorp do be funny soundin tho

[cyan lark]

I think it would be interesting putting backspace somewhere other than its natural position. I got very used to control being in the caps lock position many years ago (I believe this was a Solaris thing?)

[stone flax]

i did it cuz hhkb is bae

got used to it just too nice

[hybrid cairn]

me personally i rebound backspace to my spacebar and use caps lock to type space

[cyan lark]

I was there w/ you on the hhkb. I just use ctrl so much in linux/vim land.

[cyan lark]

Damn you are on another plane of existence. I don't think I could or would be willing to move space.

[hybrid cairn]

very convenient trust, ring finger go brrrr

[cyan lark]

I do like the idea I've heard about split space, since I only ever hit space with my right thumb. Could definitely train myself to use left to do backspace with time.

Nice, I do believe you. Having all the keys you actually use often within non-stretch distance makes sense.

[hybrid cairn]

i swapped it back to normal tho cause my ring finger be weak

i used that for maybe like half a year

but js not sustainable for me

cause i kept accidently hitting tab lmao

i type weird as hell so like its basically all reactionary when im lookin at my keyboard and muscle memory without any indicators when im not

[vapid oracle]

GREAT VIDEO THAT WAS RELEASED BY WOOTING SHOWING MULTIPLE SWITCH SOUND TESTS!!! 👍🏼
https://youtu.be/xFCu2hSg-oQ?si=kigOR95b2xWzpBZU

[cyan lark]

See this is why you gotta move caps lock

[pallid knoll]

I put some nice headphones on and had a listen... Jade Pro seems to sound quite a lot nicer than Jade. Geon HE sounds fractionally better than Jade Pro, too.

But, it's also the longer spring on the Jade Pro that has my attention.

[hybrid cairn]

how long is the jade spring?

[cyan lark]

https://tenor.com/view/long-man-sakeru-gummy-shocked-gif-17662687

[hybrid cairn]

i love those "ads" so much they were so funny

i couldnt stop laughing for the whole like 10 minute compilation

[cyan lark]

I think they're 21mm long

vs the typical 14mm

[hybrid cairn]

oh so same as the TTC KOMs alrigthty

[pallid knoll]

Geon Raw HE has a 15.0mm spring, Jade and Jade Pro have 20mm

[cyan lark]

Yeah I believe they're the same or very similar

[hybrid cairn]

imma install 22mm in mine js for bragging rights hehehhehehe

[cyan lark]

Jade defo doesn't have 20mm

[stone flax]

fake

[vapid oracle]

Is friction pad better or actually screwing the module into the case better ?

[stone flax]

only jade pros got longer spring

[stone flax]

preference

[hybrid cairn]

jade pro has 20 mm only

TTC KOM takes the win

[cyan lark]

🙄

I love my KoMs but KoM on

[hybrid cairn]

nice one lmaoooooo

[cyan lark]

https://tenor.com/view/rimshot-pun-joke-ba-dum-tss-drum-gif-15808941

[hybrid cairn]

i hope me installing 22mm springs in mine wont break them

id really hate to see them KoMbust

[cyan lark]

Turns out that was the secret for fusion reaction after all

[pallid knoll]

Think I'll stick with the Jade Pro order for now and sell the Jades when they arrive. Tempted for HE but am pretty certain I'll prefer the feel of the longer spring. cbf custom modding the switches.

[stone flax]

do people actually like traymount

[stone flax]

interesting choice

i assume this is mostly just for the longer spring?

geon needs to drop long he springs

👅

[hybrid cairn]

buy longer spring, install longer spring, profit

[stone flax]

all too easy

[hybrid cairn]

https://tenor.com/view/freaky-freaky-mode-thug-zesty-licking-gif-17874267150404318497

[cyan lark]

God I wish I could collapse messages

[pallid knoll]

In that video above, HE and Jade Pro both clearly sound better than normal Jades. So that's a win. But yeah, the spring is the drawcard.

Price difference for me is about AUD $40 (USD $25). Buying longer springs and spending the time installing them isn't something I want to do for the sake of $25.

[hybrid cairn]

real, but wheres the fun in that?

[pallid knoll]

I'll just cop the price diff and await delivery of the Jad Pros.

[stone flax]

T-T

[hybrid cairn]

it takes like 30 seconds per switch bro

and thats on the high end

[pallid knoll]

Yeah cbf.

[hybrid cairn]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[cyan lark]

I swear I have to look up an initialism from here multiple times each day

[hybrid cairn]

you mean acronym?

[stone flax]

cant be fondled?

[pallid knoll]

No, he means initialism. The correct definition. 😄

[hybrid cairn]

cant be fracked?

[pallid knoll]

Acronyms are always initialisms, but not all initialisms are acronyms.

[hybrid cairn]

i pronounce all initialisms like acronyms cause letters are letters 😄

[stone flax]

GABA vs McD's vs DNA?

what

[hybrid cairn]

ye

[cyan lark]

So cbf is "cubf"?

[hybrid cairn]

sorta

[stone flax]

its short for cant be fondled

[fallen pecan]

lawl vs l-o-l

[stone flax]

he cant be fondled to spring swap

[pallid knoll]

Attempting to pronounce cbf as an acronym sounds something like "caboof"... it's a stretch that requires addition. Thus remains technically an initialism. 🙂

[cyan lark]

That a challenge?

[stone flax]

i say rofl like "roffle"

[cyan lark]

That one I've heard

[pallid knoll]

roflcopter

[hybrid cairn]

like its like Se-b-F

[hybrid cairn]

same

[vapid oracle]

Good choice my jade pros come in next week 🙂

[cyan lark]

But like, wtf? Whatfuh?

[hybrid cairn]

i say lmao like le-mOw

[vapid oracle]

W VID

[cyan lark]

Caps lock again broseph

[pallid knoll]

Modding channel turns into Grammar Nazi channel. Love it.

[thorn spire]

is it ok if i change the stock spring of gateron jade pro with lekker spring?

[cyan lark]

I could talk about KoMs some more but the people aren't having it.

[hybrid cairn]

dont you js love it when the letters were lettering and everything was all lettered? good stuff fr

[hybrid cairn]

i like koms

gimme info

[cyan lark]

You're cool. We're cool.

[pallid knoll]

I like KoMs as an acronym, beyond that I'm not yet convinced.

[cyan lark]

Should be fine

[hybrid cairn]

js start sayying every initialism and such as acronyms and itll start being natural lmao

[cyan lark]

Though you'd be missing out on the longer spring bit

[hybrid cairn]

reactions of people are thhe most fun in person

[pallid knoll]

Wait, why? Curious.

Length?

[cyan lark]

I imagine weight

I've thought about popping my 60g lekker springs into my OG Jades to try them out

[hybrid cairn]

put 80g+ springs into every switch for finger gains

[thorn spire]

I think it will be lighter when press idk

[cyan lark]

There was a monstah either here or in 80HE channel talking about putting I think 100g into everything. I couldn't imagine the pain.

Jade pro springs are pretty light already, just fyi

[hybrid cairn]

honestly its not that bad

[cyan lark]

I think the lightest lekker spring pack, the 35g, is only 1g lighter than the jade pros?

Yeah, they're 36

[vapid oracle]

Bois should I be buying the module from wooting or off another website what would be faster ?

[stone flax]

buy a venom :3

[hybrid cairn]

you can buy 150g springs and get used to them within a month, but anything above like 250 is prly js gne be pain

[hybrid cairn]

ive seen like 3 people use one of those, why do people keep recommending them?

[cyan lark]

I feel like I would become like Lennie from Of Mice and Men if I used 150g's

[hybrid cairn]

lmaoo nah trust it aint that bad, fingers are stronger than you think, esp if you lift or rock climb

[stone flax]

because venom is good, venom is king, venom is love

[hybrid cairn]

imma js assume sarcasm and the venom is js bad / worse than the 60he then

[cyan lark]

I do lift, don't climb, but I worry the shock of bottoming out w/ all that force plus how much I use keyboards I'd cause myself real injury.

[stone flax]

tldr its by geon, has good performance, is half the cost of the module, has center udb support for expanded case options, has increased layout options (7u, 6.25u, tsangan bottom, split bs), performance on par with 80he if not better in current state (8khz 0.1mm ap/rt), great fw and sw, and development is nice

[cyan lark]

And yeah yeah I shouldn't bottom out, but how else am I gonna hear that KoM machinegun fire

[stone flax]

not sarcasm but sure

[hybrid cairn]

human fingers can get used to 150-200 pretty fast, youll be fine so long as you build up to it

[hybrid cairn]

so then is it better than the 60he/80he? cause ive been getting no answers

[stone flax]

cause the people who want it alr got it

and ur on a wooting server

where people mostly talk about....

[cyan lark]

KoMs!

[stone flax]

yea

[cyan lark]

Yeah.

[hybrid cairn]

yeah

[hybrid cairn]

so then can you enlighten me since you seem to know

[stone flax]

...people mostly talk about wootings

[hybrid cairn]

i meant about the venom bruh oml

[cyan lark]

Alright that got me

[hybrid cairn]

i cant rn

smh

[cyan lark]

Also now I gotta look up oml 😭

[hybrid cairn]

"oh my life"

im christian and dont use the lords name in vain

[stone flax]

didnt i just say

[hybrid cairn]

elaborate

[stone flax]

:p

[hybrid cairn]

damn is the 80he broken rn

[stone flax]

wdym

oh yeah there was some issues with the 80he acting sussy on anything but 1khz but i think a fw update fixed that

[hybrid cairn]

gotcha, but wdym by if not better than it in its current state? does the venom do something better than the woot?

[cyan lark]

Mostly

[stone flax]

i mean

if we look at it right now

the venom60 performs better than a wooting60

just like... flatly

[hybrid cairn]

you said better than 80he tho

[stone flax]

smaller board

so not exactly shocking

[hybrid cairn]

interesting

makes sense tho

[cyan lark]

Those ms response times?

If so, I could not tell the difference between any of them, no shot.

[hybrid cairn]

we need to get a 1/2 split board with 8khz true polling for peak performance

[cyan lark]

I don't think any human could, but I'm not gonna argue

[stone flax]

people gotta stop chalking things up to "uhh ur not gonna feel 0.86 to 0.16"

like ofc u arent dude

[hybrid cairn]

the way boards are now a human cant tell the diff, rn its js a software game

[cyan lark]

I get that it adds up in the chain

[hybrid cairn]

it doesnt

[stone flax]

but it does give a number that then fills up the idea everything just feels more responsive when added up

[fallen pecan]

some people just like to have their gear to have the best numbers, regardless if they can feel it or not

[stone flax]

like ik people who had a wooting, switched to venom, and went "yeah i can feel it this is tighter"

and thats it

just tighter

[cyan lark]

Sure it does, if there's 5 things adding 10ms each, that's 50 millis, which is noticeable.

[stone flax]

only reason there is to shill venom is because geon's behind it, performance and whatever now doesnt matter half as much if it doesnt carry anything as close to the support wooting would have down the line

but it looks like geon does care so :3

[cyan lark]

Well you gotta market

[stone flax]

wdym?

[hybrid cairn]

when you input an action and you get ultra tiny delay that goes unnoticeable then every action is gna have a tiny bit of delay which still goes unnoticeable since the delay in time is unnoticible per action regardless

[cyan lark]

Same w/ wooting on the 8khz feature

[stone flax]

yeah the bigger number race is funny

[cyan lark]

I'm saying that in a serialized pipeline of delays, the entire pipeline may be noticeable where the individual bits may not

Just how it goes. I'm not saying it actually is in practice.

[hybrid cairn]

8khz is probably where it ends when it comes to useful amount of hz, anything above that requires a framerate higher than is possible by monitors rn and humans cant notice the diff bettween them at 8k, if 8k isnt where the spd game stops then its damn close to getting there

[cyan lark]

Anyway, getting kinda lost in the sauce.

[stone flax]

i like all this yapping abt the 8khz numbah when venom does all that other stuffs

xd

[fallen pecan]

geon is developing a feature to maximize scan for 8~10 keys which allows 0.12ms latencies for those keys

[cyan lark]

I don't care about 8khz, don't even use tachyon on my 80 cause it's extra juice for no reason for me.

[hybrid cairn]

i mean you wont get a seralized pipeline of delays that noticilbe in practive unless you have an insane APM that translates to action in game with little to no lag at all and high fps

[stone flax]

my guy you havent seen me in a hard game of dress to impress

it gets crazy there

[cyan lark]

💦

[hybrid cairn]

what other features does the venom have that woot doesnt?

[hybrid cairn]

uhhhhhh uhuh

[stone flax]

......

its like

u just

glossed over all this

[hybrid cairn]

yeah ngl ive been eating some really good oxtail

have not been paying that much attention

[stone flax]

😭

nothing a 60he pro cant do

yfm

[cyan lark]

My man's living over here

Fuck me fuck you what is yfm

[hybrid cairn]

ah so its js a bit faster and more layout options, and cheaper

[hybrid cairn]

"you feel me"

[cyan lark]

😌 thank you

I guessed "your fucking move", which I kinda like as well

[hybrid cairn]

thats good too lmao

[stone flax]

and the fact u can fit it in 2x more cases

[fast oriole]

is there any major sound differences between the lekker v1.5 and the lekker v2?

[stone flax]

eh

less of a diff than 1 to 1.5

nothing to buy v2's for when u alr have v1.5 type deal

[hybrid cairn]

gotcha, as an avid disliker of the 60 profile its no diff to me but it do be interesting

[fast oriole]

is it even worth it to upgrade from the stock 60he+ switches then to the l45s? these switches do feel a bit heavier

[hybrid cairn]

if u dont like heavy get lighter switches, its "worth" is subjective

[stone flax]

my brudda rivs beautiful venom

gyatt

[hybrid cairn]

looks like a block of tofu

[cyan lark]

rivs, gyatt 😭 😪

[fallen pecan]

that's gonna patina like crazy

[stone flax]

u not understanding these words?

[cyan lark]

No!

[hybrid cairn]

ngl idk what rivs means either

[stone flax]

oh

thats rivions

[hybrid cairn]

what

like

[stone flax]

on riv ik u just didnt say that

[vapid oracle]

Cherry profile keys ?

[hybrid cairn]

thee EV car company?

[stone flax]

yea

[hybrid cairn]

on what now

[small lance]

Is geon raw he compatible with wooting 80he?

[stone flax]

ya

[small lance]

I wrote he lol

[hybrid cairn]

what is riv bro

[fast oriole]

what are some good mods if I want to stick with lekker switches to make it sound better more thocky / creamy

[hybrid cairn]

cant make it thocky and creamy is js overlubed

[pallid knoll]

I'm really looking forward to some after market metal being produced for the 80HE. The zinc alloy feels great, but looks like naff kiddy shit because of the treatment around the edging.

[chilly mural]

Just no rgb

[small lance]

Damn

[hybrid cairn]

you mighta js gotten a bad case, mines clean as hell all around the thing

[small lance]

I ordered zinc one today

[pallid knoll]

It's clean as hell, it just looks terrible.

Aesthetic fail

[fast oriole]

what makes it thocky, i have heard about the black knight

[cyan lark]

Huh, strong disagree. I love the look of the zinc.

[chilly mural]

If it can get to 10k, it's going to be goated for rhythm game

[hybrid cairn]

thats subjective lmao, if its clean then thats the look some people want. and idk whachu mean by "kkiddy shit" around the edges

[cyan lark]

Well, other than the medicated feet on it

But I don't see those while in use anyway

[pallid knoll]

Very subjective. And I hate it. 😆 Thankfully it feels great.

[chilly mural]

10 key is enough for most rhythm game that's played on keyboard

[pallid knoll]

But I'll still switch in a heatbeat when a better option comes along.

[hybrid cairn]

yoou cant get a conventional thock sound in an HE board, ive tried for months, trust me

[small lance]

Respectable

[fallen pecan]

first you gotta buy a geon

[fast oriole]

ah

are the gateron jade switches good or are they just overhyped

[chilly mural]

if venom tkl supports it, I already got it. If it's 60 only, eeeeeeee, later

[cyan lark]

I know every hobby has its own language, but every time I hear someone describe something as "creamy" wanna pull my ears off.

[hybrid cairn]

thhen whyd you bbuy it????

[hybrid cairn]

mmmmmmmmmmmm creeeeeeeaaaaaaaammmyyyyyyyyyyy

[small lance]

I’ve been using mechanical switches and I play better with them I think it’s because they have 33 gram force

[cyan lark]

https://tenor.com/view/disgusting-homelander-the-boys-ewww-so-gross-gif-1343153455578331671

[fallen pecan]

sweet

[small lance]

What’s a switch that is 33 grams and Hall effect

[hybrid cairn]

https://tenor.com/view/creamy-matty-matheson-cookin'-somethin'-the-creamiest-lobster-pasta-so-much-cream-gif-3968625102446810551

[small lance]

Or 35

[hybrid cairn]

Jade pros and TTC Koms are 35grams

[cyan lark]

That and anything you spring swap to 35g

[stone flax]

good

[hybrid cairn]

prretty colors are peak

[chilly mural]

waow

rgb are one of the reason I got the 80heeeee

[small lance]

I’ve never swapped springs lol

[hybrid cairn]

i can change the aesthetic of my setup with a click of a button its so dope, and since most of my things are black my room overall looks the same

its pretty sick, emphasiss on the pretty

[hybrid cairn]

its very easy, takes like 30 seconds a switch if ur new

[cyan lark]

Really isn't hard, doesn't take that long either.

Just something to keep in mind so you don't box yourself in

[hybrid cairn]

js plop em open, pick it up, swap the spring, place them together, s a n d w h i c h, then ur done

[small lance]

I’ll consider it since I like trying new things

[cyan lark]

I had to call my wife over to do the sandwich once. It's so satisfying.

And no that's not a euphemism.

[hybrid cairn]

pause (?)

[hybrid cairn]

im so confused dawg

[cyan lark]

Reassembling a switch. The last step.

[small lance]

Ttc magnetic switches are a dollar each how’s the wobble

[cyan lark]

Feels good to click it back together

[hybrid cairn]

so u called u wife over to assemble the switch?

[hybrid cairn]

they have the least wobble out of any switch available

[cyan lark]

Just push it back together to see how it felt. Y'know what, she's my wife and I'll beat her when I want to.

[hybrid cairn]

cons: very loud, and clacky

tho thats a pro for me

[cyan lark]

joke

[small lance]

Dayum

[hybrid cairn]

https://tenor.com/view/fbiopenup-gif-24681421

[small lance]

😂😂😂😂

[cyan lark]

KoMs don't wobble, they are a faithful bunch.

[small lance]

Will it be crazy if I only buy 10 for the movement keys

[cyan lark]

Nah, do it.

Though you'll just end up getting 80 more once you get a taste.

[small lance]

I might because although I don’t care about wobble when gaming I hate it when typing

[chilly mural]

0.0001ms faster because less deadzone

[fallen pecan]

in china they even sell in 4s for the cheapos

[cyan lark]

That's smrt

[small lance]

I should order from ipopularshop right ?

[cyan lark]

I got mine from milktooth, 🤷

Cheaper there

[fallen pecan]

look at these skus

[cyan lark]

I'd load up on a boatload of 4 packs to try them out

[chilly mural]

woot

[fallen pecan]

you get a plastic switch puller for all skus too

[cyan lark]

Oh no

I'd drown

[small lance]

Y’all got me excited for those switches

I haven’t event gotten the 80he yet lol

[cyan lark]

The KoMs? They're kinda polarizing, but I like 'em

[vapid oracle]

Jade pros

[small lance]

Yeah,can’t wait to try them tbh but I’ll wait till my keyboard gets closer

[cyan lark]

They're fun, but hopefully you don't plan to use them near anybody that might be asleep 📣

[fast oriole]

does the polycarbonate plate with the silicone make a good sound difference

[pallid knoll]

Because it was the only metal option.

[small lance]

Damn

Jade pros make less sound ?

[cyan lark]

Far less

[small lance]

Alr

Just gonna order 10 to try them when I get 80he

I’ll try the l60s first haven’t tried them in a while

[cyan lark]

Esp. since they're pricey, yeah you may wanna try a sample first

[small lance]

I even realized my movement is so much cleaner with 1.0 or I think 1.5 actuation force

It’s either that or the 33 grams switches

But it’s way cleaner

[fast oriole]

what 33 gram switches do you use

[small lance]

Not using wooting rn because I just sold it

Using my apex 9

Keyboard

[fast oriole]

ah i see

do they feel good for typing though?

[small lance]

Nah they’re clacky af

Stem wobble is crazy

That’s why I might just buy 10 for movement keys

[fast oriole]

ohh so thats not anything to do with the force needed though right

[small lance]

Oh I know what you mean now

Tbh it’s not the great but it gets the job done for basic writing

I get typos once in a while

[fast oriole]

im on the verge between lekker l45 v2s and gateron jade pros i cant decide

[small lance]

I had l45 v1 and they were not the lightest

[vapid oracle]

Jade pros

[small lance]

If you really want light go jade pros

[fast oriole]

or should i get jade max's, or is there problems with those

and are jade pros good for gaming as well

[small lance]

Why wouldn’t they

[fast oriole]

since they aren't made for wooting switches yk, im very new to keyboard modding

[small lance]

All magnetic switches are the same or nearly the same for gaming you’d just change them for sound or stem wobble

[fast oriole]

are the pro maxes good?

[fallen pecan]

iphone? yeah theyre nice

[vapid oracle]

Black keycaps recommendations?

[fast oriole]

ive heard mixed opinions on problems with the gateron jade series

[fallen pecan]

mostly the maxes, cos they stick

[fast oriole]

ah, what about geon raw he

[fallen pecan]

for most people the raws are about the same as jade pros

but the pros are more stable on paper

[fast oriole]

Hmmm I see

Is the 3.5mm travel on jades a noticable difference from the lekker switches, positive negative or neutral

[vapid oracle]

Jades pro I heard are better then L45 v2’s

But it’s all preference

[south swallow]

Does anyone know if the friction fit pad is compatible with the iso-uk layout?

[fast oriole]

Now I’m on the fence between jade pros and GEON raw he

[chilly mural]

Jade pro if you can get it cheaper than geon raw

[fast oriole]

Any major differences? Do they sound better?

Aren’t the jade pros more clacky?

[chilly mural]

sound is subjective, I prefer raw since it's closer to sounding like sanwa button

[fast oriole]

Ah

[fluid ravine]

Have you been on Santa's good list?

[chilly mural]

Maybe????

[fast oriole]

So for purchasing the raws I just have to switch out the switches like in the Wooting tutorial for the lekkers right? Is the process the same

[chilly mural]

Yeh, changing them is like that

[fast oriole]

Perfect

Do I need the switch kit from Wooting website if I’m just planning on switching out the switches and not living

Lubing

[chilly mural]

No, your keyboard already includes a switch puller

[fast oriole]

Oh I thought it was only a keycap puller

[chilly mural]

behind the keycap puller is a switch puller

[fast oriole]

Like on the same yellow thing right?

[chilly mural]

Can you take a pic of it? I'm not sure

I thought you're talking about the 80he stuff

[fast oriole]

One sec let me find it

[fast oriole]

60he

[chilly mural]

Oh, yeah, the southern one is the switch puller

[fast oriole]

Perfect!

[stone flax]

this thing is terrible

[fast oriole]

Will it get the job done

[chilly mural]

It can, just be careful since it can break easily

[fast oriole]

The puller itself?

[chilly mural]

yeah

[fast oriole]

Ok

[fallen pecan]

snaps easily if you're not careful

[fast oriole]

So just use light pressure?

Or should I just get a 7$ metal one from Amazon

Does it have to be like specialized for Hall effect switches or can it be a general switch puller

[chilly mural]

It can be any switch puller

[stone flax]

any switch puller doesnt have to jiadalong

[fast oriole]

Alright

Thank you

Is lower bottom out force harder to type with?

[stone flax]

preference

[knotty iron]

if they mean the venom pcbs, i dunno if they support xinput or gamepad mode, that would be the only thing i think may be lacking, but i don't think that is much of a dealbreaker for most

[knotty iron]

if anything it just means the spring pushes back against your fingers with that force at that travel depth

[pallid knoll]

My Wooting switch puller snapped on first use. Good thing I had a dedicated one handy.

[knotty iron]

my 60HE+ one did too lol

[pallid knoll]

This kind is the kind you want. Metal.

$3 each or something with free shipping from Amazon 🙂

[feral adder]

These are all of the parts im about to buy to build a new keeb. Everything looks good right? Wooting 60HE+ Module. Friction fit pad. Tofu60 Redux Case with brass bar. Sound dampening foam. GEON Raw HE Switches. Switch Films. O-rings. Krytox 205g0. Stabilizer Grease. GPL 105 205g0. XDA Dye-sub PBT Keycaps. Keycap puller, switch puller, switch opener, stem holder, brush, tweezers.

[flat cobalt]

I don’t think you need the switch films

Sorry for always pinging you @glacial wind

[kind geyser]

Hello guys i forgot to say something abou the mod i did yesterday, spacebar is total shit, so u have to fix it (placing foam inside) or replacing and lubing stabilizers

[glacial wind]

Yeah skip switch films

Been bit busy past few days so haven’t checked pings much

[hollow dagger]

That looks amazing

Holidays?

[left depot]

you're modding keyboards up there

[knotty iron]

Are you snowboarding again? I mean, tis the season

[glacial wind]

Yeah just a trip with some friends

[chilly mural]

Very noice

[knotty iron]

nice, have fun :)

[stark osprey]

Im jelly, only have man made snow in socal have fun!

[chilly mural]

Im more jelly, I haven't even see snow in person

[stuck night]

geon raptors is clone lekker v1?

[glacial wind]

Better material v1 basically. The material makes the chatter less noticable - but you wouldn’t buy either raptor or v1 these days

[hazy gyro]

hi guys, have a question as im waiting for my 80he to arrive. ive bought the gateron jade pros just yesterday, and rmb reading something about the stabilizers having to be changed as well if im going to use the jade pro switches. my question is do i have to buy another set of stabilizers? i bought the module without switches and keycaps

[stuck night]

okay, both of them is same on performance?

or 1 of them is better?

[fallen pecan]

He means dont get either of them

[stuck night]

my friends told to me raptors better performance and feel than lekker v1

i just make sure it

idk about that

[fallen pecan]

He’s correct, raptors>lekker v1

[spice plover]

Anyone have a salvation case and using or used the friction fit pad inside of it ?

[worldly igloo]

Any suggestions for keycaps with good rgb white color to my 60he+ module with tofu redux 60? Price range 20-30$

[hollow dagger]

Wait can you get the friction pad now?

Oh crap you cann

Damn i only took like 2 weeks off and I'm already missing out on a lot of things

[noble light]

Totally. If they were only available as ISO…

[unborn knoll]

Can you put ANSI keycaps on an ISO keyboard?

Or to put it differently, is there an actual difference in switch/pcb layout what would stop me from doing so?

I’m looking into project optimum
I got the original Wooting 60HE during the founders campaign.

[spice plover]

Let me know if you find someone that used it in salvation because they are saying it’s kinda dangerous if it short circuits without specific cases which fucking scares me and sucks

[hollow dagger]

Alrighty. Is the grounding a bigger issue than it should be?

[wooden hazel]

Why not just ground them iirc there was a solution for this on a woofing vid with friction fit case 60he?

[strange egret]

go an extra 10$ over that and get polychroma v2

or if you dont care about legends then just look up white pom jelly on amazon there should some in that price range

[spice plover]

What’s iirc?

[stone flax]

@tawdry tree

….

[stone flax]

Why

[wooden hazel]

If I remember/recall correctly [ iirc ]

[reef oar]

[crystal pagoda]

http://e.tb.cn/h.TUKMGCtOKVMHIWH

💪

[reef oar]

that's fire

[spice plover]

Scared about the grounding issue

[stone flax]

yea but why use friction pad in long run

its like removing the biggest selling point of the salvation

[spice plover]

Idk just wanted to try it. You think it will
Even snug fit? Or do I also have to take out the leaf spring system at the bottom?

I mean I could always put it back later and try the friction fit if it’s fit

[fast oriole]

Could you send me a link?

[pallid knoll]

I’m in Australia so this might not be helpful: https://amzn.asia/d/h6YeKWB

[heady dragon]

except the return key and the additionnal key around it, they are all the same keycaps, only the legends change

[rustic shale]

Sup nerds, can any of you advise some plate mounted stabs in particular? Or maybe there’s a guide on how to drill holes in pcb(60he) or smth

[polar girder]

What if you lube up the friction fit pad and then it’s still kind of bouncy salvation but the friction fit pad kind of just fills in all the dead space around the perimeter?

[idle creek]

hii, i hope i can fit my future Wooting module gh60plus in my custom case c; ! https://kprepublic.com/collections/case/products/xd60-xd64-xiudi-60-aluminum-case-with-tempered-glass-diffuser

[stone flax]

whats wrong with the current ones

[rustic shale]

I want to mod my keyboard and change everything

[chilly mural]

Soo many layout option

Would love the layout below the Tsangan, perfect for rhythm game for me

not so perfect for arma tho

[unborn knoll]

Aren’t switches in a different spot? I did some checking in the site and seems like it :/

[stone flax]

so ur doing things to do things rather than attain any objective or legible improvement

[rustic shale]

I just want to improve my keyboard in terms of sound and tactility

[heady dragon]

yes, but not for every keys, as in you can adapt an ANSI key to suit an ISO but would need some ANSI keycaps and vice-versa

that's not how it is intended tho, on that part I agree with your checking

[stone flax]

and as said, what is wrong with ur current stabs that they necessitate replacing

rather than just tuning

[spice apex]

wooting is coming tuesday

finished lubing the switches and stabs yesterday so all i gotta do is throw it together

[worthy epoch]

Bro tf is wrong with you? He seeks help, and you just being dumb instead of helping him

You either help or keep your mouth shut

[stone flax]

werent the one begging for a pad to be bought for you

oh yeah ur that annoying ass kid

lol

[stone flax]

tryna help the guy save money but sure

[worthy epoch]

U r confusing me with someone else, pity to have a bad memory((

[stone flax]

all too common people just buy things under the notion of “new thing better”

why buy new stabs and end up having to the same tuning that would have made your old ones in a satisfactory state

[stone flax]

nope

lols

[worthy epoch]

If you had basic reading skills you would’ve understood that he has STOCK 60he wooting with awful stock stabs

Ig i can buy shit on my own, no? Im not as poor as you to begging for a handout

[stone flax]

? again, quit the skill issue tbh and just tune them… sure he buys new stabs… he would still have to lube and grease and potentially wire balance - all things he can do on his stock stabs to improve them now

[worthy epoch]

Why improving shit to make it 80% shit out of 100%, if you can buy smth cool to make it even cooler?

[stone flax]

?

[worthy epoch]

Improving *

[stone flax]

oh ur one of those people who probably goes “whats the best stabilizer!-!-!-“ rather than just fix the stock ones

gotcha

[worthy epoch]

HAHAAHHA

So u gotta be that poor jobless mf who gets your shit on birthday and Christmas for mommy’s money?

Get a job lol

[stone flax]

my point stands, sure he buys news stabs. He will still do the same exact things he could have done to the stock ones and they will both perform the same

Stabs are stabs

[worthy epoch]

HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA

[stone flax]

Where is this hostility coming from?

[worthy epoch]

Mf is clueless

[cyan lark]

Lower the temp

This room gets real heated over some plastic

[stone flax]

again

where is this coming from

what piece of helpful advice have you imparted on the guy

[worthy epoch]

And you?

Literally 0

[stone flax]

i tell him just buy lube

because why buy new stabs youd need to tune just like you would the stock ones?

lel

[reef oar]

how long does standard gateron shipping usually take? might fill my board with normal gateron jades until my pros arrive, but 1. idk how long shipping usually is and 2. idk how aids it's gonna be to repull all my switches again

[worthy epoch]

Won’t improve much. If you tune a fucking ford focus it won’t be better than brand new mercedes. exaggerated example but still good

[cyan lark]

Pulling jades is actually not bad. Put 'em in.

[reef oar]

bet

[stone flax]

brainrot skill issue take

stabs are stabs

[worthy epoch]

Jobless mf take

[stone flax]

found it

[worthy epoch]

Grow up, stop wasting your mommy’s money

[stone flax]

oh yeah you did beg for a pad

😭

[worthy epoch]

HAHAHAHAAHHAHAHA

[stone flax]

of course it was projection

no way you were pulling it from nothing

[worthy epoch]

Send me pics lol

[stone flax]

lol

[worthy epoch]

Im pretty capable of paying for shit i want on my own

Atp you js all bark no bite