🔧│keyboard_modding

[cedar gate]

Makes your space bar sound like crap

PC is better for that

[frosty coral]

WTF IS PC

[cedar gate]

Did you get the module or prebuilt

[frosty coral]

prebuilt

[glacial wind]

if you can't get him to put in $1 foam, good luck explaining and getting him to buy and swap the plate, lube the stabs etc

[polar girder]

Polycarbonate. Plastic

[cedar gate]

Poly carbonate

[frosty coral]

dude i didnt know

now i know

ill cop

doesnt matter

[cedar gate]

Yea u have steel plate then

That's probably the source of your problems

[frosty coral]

am i fucked

[cedar gate]

No its like 15$

To fix

[cedar gate]

Also your using tray mount?

[frosty coral]

do i gotta send it back to wooting or smth

[tropic urchin]

Have you tried CF plates at all

[polar girder]

No just use a screwdriver

They don’t mod

You mod

[cedar gate]

Have heard tests

It's cool but clacky and I'm not a fan of clack tbh

[tropic urchin]

I wanted to undampen my 80HE a bit without going too crazy with brass or steel

[worthy rover]

@tropic urchin you were so right about geon raw light diffuser flying all over, thanks to you i watched out for it and still one managed to slip

[tropic urchin]

So I think you have confirmed what I wanted

[cedar gate]

Maybe remove foam?

[frosty coral]

what even is the point of modding my shit in the first place

i cant even hear it bc of my iems

[cedar gate]

Change the sound and feel

Idk bro u asked

[tropic urchin]

It’ll happen even if you know about it, I broke a lot of clips with stock puller

[cedar gate]

Does make it feel better tho

[frosty coral]

idk if i like this feel or the stock 60he feel

[polar girder]

Steel plate is great for feel IMO

[tropic urchin]

I think the foam is fine, it will still have the silicone pad with the gasket mount (which dampens it the most), but the plate change should be enough to bring out the brighter notes

I don’t want it to be full blown TTC magnetos

[polar girder]

😈

[tropic urchin]

But a bit more clack currently while being somewhat balanced

[reef oar]

anyone know of any direct comparison vids between the poron foam and silicone with the 60he+ module?

[tropic urchin]

Oh shit CF plate is definitely brighter 🤣, that’ll be fun

[cedar gate]

Really? When I was using the steel plate it sounded really pingy and metallic and felt harsh

Ig some people like that harsh bottom out feel

Not my thing for sure tho

[fluid ravine]

Indeeeed

[tropic urchin]

I’m gonna order the white fr4 too and see which one goes better

Will be interesting

[polar girder]

It’s stiff

[worthy rover]

im having so much difficulty pulling my switches out from 80he, am I victim of the stock switch puller or skill issue?

[ionic breach]

you got a ph1 screwdriver?

[worthy rover]

I do yeah

[ionic breach]

take it apart

and push the switches out from da bottom

saves you time

just dont lose the screws

[worthy rover]

is it hard to take apart/put back together?

[tropic urchin]

Nah

The harder part for me was the JST cable

But second time was easier

Just gotta put the screws back in and line up the silicone + gasket and you’re in business

[tropic urchin]

It’s a little bit of both. I got a new puller made out of titanium and I didn’t even need to take mine apart with it

Good luck with default on raws 😭

That shit sucked

[worthy rover]

I got a temporary decent puller from amazon that’ll come in tomorrow so options are to either put up with 6 switched being different than rest until tomorrow (my ocd wont allow) or take apart

I found a vid for changing switches but it was for 60he, on 80he do I just remove the screws in big white circles or all I see? ok they are stabilizers, im in

[pulsar patio]

is there a way to mount wooting in tofu case with gummy o-ring and pcb mount stabs? or it will fit only with plate mounts

[agile grove]

you could buy clip in stabs

I think the friction pad wooting is releasing soon™️ would also work

[fluid ravine]

Has it been confirmed to fit in the case?
Cus mine got caught on the corner of the case but it could be a different situation as mines a tofu v1 clone

[agile grove]

i’m actually not sure

it fits in the alumaze iirc so I would assume it would fit in the redux

but idk if it’s been tested yet

[ionic breach]

i think one of the staff has said it has

oh ya nvm, it definetly fits

[fluid ravine]

That's gud

[dusky hinge]

Hello, are there any good brands for keycaps? Or what should I look out for?

[agile grove]

https://www.alexotos.com/keyboard-vendor-list/

[high sphinx]

hey guys i wanna order new stabs do you guys know if the tx ap long pole are screw in ?

[agile grove]

what keyboard is this for? also you don’t need long pole stabs.

[high sphinx]

wooting 80he and i heard long poles are better if u have switches with shorter travel distacne

cause i have geon raws

[agile grove]

shouldn’t matter

[spice apex]

out of curiosity what benefit do long poles even have? because i’ve never understood why they exist

[agile grove]

if you don’t have issues with the stock stabs you don’t need to change them

[high sphinx]

i have issues with my spacebar

[agile grove]

they’re for switches with shorter travel distance. mainly a thing from mechanical keboards afaik.

[high sphinx]

i balanced the wire

i relubed the housing and wire ordered other keycaps and still have issues

[agile grove]

I see

tx long pole should work in that case

there’s also spacers you can buy

[high sphinx]

oh ok and are the tx ap long pole screw in ?

[agile grove]

they have a version for every mounting style

so yes

just look for “tx ap long pole screw in” specifically

[high sphinx]

ok ty

[high sphinx]

hey @agile grove do i need to use the washers that come with the tx stabs or is it not nessecary ?

[agile grove]

I don’t think so

[high sphinx]

ok cause i dont want to short the pcb

[worldly igloo]

Could you give me suggestions for custom case for 60HE+?

[worthy rover]

@tropic urchin @ionic breach thanks for the encouragement you guys, opened up the plate and got them switches swapped

my fingers be deadge but

[tropic urchin]

Opening it up saved a lot of pain for me personally

[worthy rover]

I don’t think I am doing it any other way around for the time being

[tropic urchin]

I got thru like 5-7 switches all with dead clips before I was like “this isn’t happening” and having to redo the JST cable seemed like a walk in the park

[tropic urchin]

It’s possible with a better puller

[worthy rover]

jst cable be breeze now, remembering the pain I had while I first assembled, i came a long way

[tropic urchin]

I swear I was close to breaking the stock a few times

[tropic urchin]

Right 🤣

[worthy rover]

same, i had a fight with one of the switches before opening the plate

i was like

its either the puller is breaking or the switch idgaf anymore

[tropic urchin]

Yeah I was full idgaf mode

I’m gonna have to do it again to swap plates, but it’s not too bad

[worldly igloo]

Where to buy geon raw he switches best options

[worthy rover]

kbdfans on aliexpress, i just installed them on mine

[worthy rover]

same here i had to bring myself back from idgaf mode 💀

[polar girder]

Shipped to where

Regional

[worldly igloo]

EU

[worthy rover]

my right shift feels a bit sticky now (not like I use it tons) there was a bit of lube sticking out so I think its the pads under stabilizers got sticky right

[worldly igloo]

could u give link?

[worthy rover]

sure

https://a.aliexpress.com/_oDA1BoL

I went for 50 at the end they are quite nice

[worldly igloo]

thats showing only 7 remaining. 1 mean you will get 10 switches ? or what

[worthy rover]

yeah its 10 per pack

[reef oar]

didn't even do much research into geon raws, kinda just insta bought jade pros

i know they're super nice though

[worthy rover]

jade pros sounded so good as well

rgb was dealbreaker for me a bit though

[reef oar]

ah makes sense

[tropic urchin]

They’re about the same with small differences between the two

Unless crystal clear RGB is a dealbreaker then it’s a toss up between the two

Some also like raw more due it being cheaper to buy

[worthy rover]

yeah honestly it was hard to differentiate but i loved jade pro sound

[worldly igloo]

Are they original 😅 ? I never bought from alie

[tropic urchin]

RAWs were a little chalky for me

[worthy rover]

yeah they are

[worldly igloo]

How did u know?

[worthy rover]

its a verified seller vouched by other people here too

[tropic urchin]

It’s not uncommon for them to come in smaller bags

https://divinikey.com/products/geon-raw-he-linear-switches?srsltid=AfmBOoqrVeMDBFro2-eRTH0AxF2A2rSwk2i0rNYqifOiZHjW5JyxFurE

US based but they come in packs of 18

[worldly igloo]

there is 22$ shipping

[reef oar]

you might not get original packaging on aliexpress but they should be original switches

[tropic urchin]

I’m not saying to buy it from that link, I’m showing you another example of it coming in smaller packs

[worthy rover]

also a good indicator

[tropic urchin]

Could do a lot worse like kutheny on Amazon selling Gateron switches for a sketchy discount 🤣

[worthy rover]

talking about discounts im so sad i didnt get to get jade pros for dirt cheap

I seriously would have kept them

[tropic urchin]

They were only on sale for 20% off on Black Friday

Nice incentive but not crazy

[worthy rover]

there was a bigger deal i think let me see

[tropic urchin]

Oh on aliexpress maybe

I saw some weird stacking discounts Sno did that was kinda wild for $20

[worthy rover]

I am talking about this one

yeah exactly

that was WILD

I would have bought them and kept them just to have them, jade pros in their box looks yummy

or prolly used or switched at times

[tropic urchin]

Mint green candies

And RAWs are perfectly toasted marshmallows

[worthy rover]

https://tenor.com/view/skittles-candy-snacks-snack-food-gif-9416579331374478477

my geons came in plastic bag instead of the plastic jar im sad

new obsession

[worldly igloo]

@worthy rover could you sound test lol

You've 60he+ or 80he

which case do you have

[worthy rover]

I have 80he

plastic case

[worldly igloo]

oh okay

[worthy rover]

3 layer tape mod

rest is full stock

I could do a comparison of jades and lekker and raw but thats when I get a decent puller

[worthy rover]

I can if I get a quiet environment

[worldly igloo]

ah im so confused i want to buy wooting so hard today but i cant devide between module and just 60he+ there will be some fun with this module too

[tropic urchin]

60HE will sound a bit louder from stock 80HE since they have steel plate instead of PC

[tropic urchin]

I’d get module so it teaches you how to put it together, that way if you have any parts that need switching then you’ll have a better idea on what to do

[worthy rover]

if I could choose again I’d again get module

i felt comfortable opening the case back up after I did everything myself

[tropic urchin]

It’s not too hard with Wooting YT and other videos

[worthy rover]

YT is big and discord is helpful too, love you chat

[worldly igloo]

Yes, but there is some fun in choosing and ordering switches, keycaps and cases, and as for wooting60 aluminum idk

[worthy rover]

cries in 80he no case

[tropic urchin]

As a first time builder it was pretty fun even tho if it took a bit to unscrew everything and reinstall new stabs (didn’t have to lube or wire balance thankfully)

Helps build confidence to make it your own vs being afraid of taking something apart

[worthy rover]

id say buy module case lekkers and put it together and use that way, then you will know what you like or not and can go for switches or case

and you can use your keeb until some part you need comes in

[reef oar]

yeah that isn't a bad idea, especially since they offer the lekker switches so cheaply

can't go wrong

[worthy rover]

i skeptically went for 45g lekkers and ended up loving lighter switches

[reef oar]

crazy how cheap they offer the lekkers considering they aren't even bad

[worthy rover]

yeah its pretty cheap for what they provide i actually quite loved how smooth they were

[reef oar]

ong

lowkey biggest problem i had with the stock 60he+ i had were the keycaps

switches felt fine

isn't hard to tape mod it

[high sphinx]

hey guys i wanted to ask if someone has experience with the typeplus x yikb stabilizers and i wanted to ask how they are ?

[worthy rover]

it was damn nice before tape mode even, became giga afterwards

[worldly igloo]

Ok so if i decide to buy module of 60he+ and ill order geon raw he from alie ill need to get some good case for it idk where to find them

or i should stay with this

[reef oar]

lowkey buy the tofu60 redux from aliexpress at the same time

[marsh saffron]

Tofu redux, alumaze, wilbatech salvation

Tons of gh60 cases on Ali express too

[worldly igloo]

alr ill check them

I need 7 packs for 60he r?

[polar girder]

https://cannonkeys.com/products/pbs-black-on-black

Back in stock. Hype.

Great texture. Unique profile.

[shy pond]

anyone have both and wanna put in their two cents on how they're different and preference?

messed up and got the optimum keyboard case and forgot to get the switches lol

[high sphinx]

I ordered sw knight v2 stabs i hope they threat me good has anyone experience with them ?

[little glen]

both switches?

do you mean jade and lekker v2?

me personally i'd get geon raw he switches

[worldly igloo]

re they original on alie?

[little glen]

the ones on the kbdfans aliexpress store are, yes

i bought mine on ali

[worldly igloo]

ik there is a lot fake stuff on alie and im scared

[worldly igloo]

so they re completly fine r?

[little glen]

yes

[worldly igloo]

https://pl.aliexpress.com/item/1005007782574456.html?gatewayAdapt=glo2pol

[worthy rover]

@worldly igloo they are genuine, if you are unsure check reviews on the switches + store

[worldly igloo]

which kb do you have 80he one or 60he+

[little glen]

80he

[worldly igloo]

Yes, but I think they might be fake but ill trust

[dusk orchid]

Does anybody in here had the experience that the wooting (in my case the 80HE) did not work anymore after a hot swap?

[tropic urchin]

I have em on my 80HE, they’ve been pretty good (bought them prelubed/wire balanced)

[high sphinx]

So they balanced the wire for u ?

[tropic urchin]

Yeah, I was chasing finding the gold wire since they stopped selling it and converted it to silver. Was able to find it both lubed and wire balanced on zkeeb for a bit more than standard MSRP, but they’ve been good

[high sphinx]

Damn i just ordered with the normal wire i think i hope my wires will be balanced

[remote cairn]

Hey, how come Raw HE are soooo hard to remove? I tried remove a switch with the included plastic switch puller, didn't work. Now that I got a metal one I had to put so much force it remove the pain and broke one pin because it just doesn't come out if I didn't pressure both sides (of the switch) very hard and then when it finally somewhat come out I wiggled the switch but it still broke (a pin). Is this normal?

[tropic urchin]

Even if you do have to, there’s a decent amount of videos online that should help in case any aren’t

[tropic urchin]

I broke most of mine if it makes you feel better

[shy pond]

oh im sorry, i meant to say geon raw he and jade pros

[tropic urchin]

Then again I didn’t care since I was swapping to Jade pros, but if you want an easier time I’d take out the PC plate with your switches and remove that way

[shy pond]

are the two switches im trying to decide between, sorry about that

[remote cairn]

I just watched wooting tutorial and I was doing it wrong

[high sphinx]

Is zkeeb in eu ?

[tropic urchin]

I think they’re US based

[remote cairn]

that's how you're supposed to remove them, I was removing them from the other side (left and right instead of top and bottom)

[tropic urchin]

I did top and bottom and it didn’t help

[high sphinx]

Oh ok and the shim do you put it on top of the pcb ?

[tropic urchin]

I used default that came with the board and one of my metal spares, RAWs are just not an easy switch to remove. Careful the light diffuser doesn’t come out

[high sphinx]

And do u also use the washers for the screws ?

[remote cairn]

I don't know how you did it then, but I tried another time and it worked very well (not as smooth as in the vid tho)

[tropic urchin]

You wanna strip it down (remove your screws, take off the silicone sandwich pad and gasket Mount, and put the plate aside), then you wanna see where the default stabs are and slowly unscrew those screws and unclip, then line it up with your new stabs (once you lube yours etc)

[tropic urchin]

I followed the video

Didn’t go faster until I just took out the plate with switches then it was less annoying

Default tool just sucks

[worthy rover]

at some point I got so used to popping out switches after I took off the plate

i was just popping them out one by one in seconds

i barely had to use switch puller

[tropic urchin]

Also works, I got scared that I was gonna damage the plate so I just stuck to the puller

[high sphinx]

Yeah i have removed my stabs before but i know the knight v2´s come with stabilizer shims and i wanted to ask if u put the shims on top of the pcb plate ?

[tropic urchin]

Are you referring to the red circles or the black line piece things

[high sphinx]

Black line piece things

[tropic urchin]

I didn’t use those

[floral salmon]

Hey i was wondering, what's the point of modding keyboard

Is it only visual ?

[high sphinx]

Oh i thought u had to use em cause of the 1.6 ocb

[tropic urchin]

It seemed like you only needed to use those if you had a thinner PCB from one of the Korean videos I was watching of the install

[high sphinx]

Oh yeah i might be stupid and did u use the red rings ?

[tropic urchin]

Yeah, I did use those

You can lose it so be careful when putting them together

[shy pond]

hmm if the raw he's are hard to switch out, maybe i'll stick with jade pros?

[high sphinx]

Ok ty and i have good new the side i ordered from there stands that the wires are gold but not pre lubed or balanced tho but i have the thick wires it seems

[shy pond]

anyone have any strong feelings for or against jade pros vs raw he?

im new to the HE switches so i have yet to do the research

thougth i'd leech some knowledge off of this group 🙂

[worthy rover]

im just an average keeb enjoyer so someone could bash my opinions but I got to try them both out
they sound very very similar
but if you care about RGB and especially light colors you shouldnt consider jade pros

they both felt the same too

[tropic urchin]

Nice! They’re phasing it out from swagkeys directly, I’d get some 205g/105g on hand for when they arrive

[shy pond]

do the jade pros not allow the rgb through? im usually not a big user of unicorn vomit anyway so shouldn't be a deal breaker

thanks for your input!

[high sphinx]

Yup i have 205g0 and i have molykote for the wire lube

[tropic urchin]

They’re both very similar switches (clacky, good tolerances), for me raws sounded kinda chalky (smooth feel) and Jade pros sounded the best to me. The big difference aside from pros being a little more expensive is that the RGB is tainted since the pros have a green tinted upper housing so it makes white look blue and yellow more green and makes purple/pink darker

[worthy rover]

jade pros do let RGB through, but their color ends up changing the color a bit, especially lighter colors

like it'd turn my light pink color into purple

[shy pond]

oh i got it, is the tactility pretty similar between the two? like is the chalkiness of the raw he's more of an acoustic thing? or does it feel smoother?

[high sphinx]

U said the converted to silver wire but when i go to swagkeys website there they arz with the gold one

[worthy rover]

I didnt feel the chalkiness that much, it feels very smooth for me and they felt similar

if my switch pullers come in tomorrow and I got a quiet environment I can do a comparison test tomorrow

raw he also has 40 50 and 60 options

[shy pond]

what's that, bottom out force?

[worthy rover]

lekkers have 45 and 60 as well

[shy pond]

how are the lekkers?

[tropic urchin]

From what I saw they were phasing the gold wire out and from their pics it’s replaced by silver

Sno had also mentioned that when I was looking

[tropic urchin]

More chalky sound than feel, feel was fine

[shy pond]

ooh i found 72 jade pros for $40, seems like a pretty good deal

[worthy rover]

v2s are quite nice and very cheap too, but you feel the difference once you use any other

[tropic urchin]

Lekkers are a lot deeper sounding so completely different sound profile

[high sphinx]

Oh i just s1w on their site and at the moment u have option to buy both but u are probably right they will convert to the silver

[tropic urchin]

The silver ones are towards the end of the photos

They don’t give you an option that shows gold wire for when you buy

It’s not a big deal for functionality but I’m weird like that and want to match my stabs with my keeb aesthetic

[tropic urchin]

If you’re still interested in hearing the switch sound differences, Mikeytypes (and sander from Wooting YT) all have videos show casing each of the most popular switches for sound tests

[high sphinx]

I see thise two options on their site are they not the same ?

[worldly igloo]

Will i need anything more when i order 60HE+ module ill order geon raw he switches from ali and tofu redux case 60 from alie and keycaps will i need anything else or thats all ?

[tropic urchin]

They have clear/black housing and long pole (used for jades/raws since they’re 3.4mm/3.5mm travel) and normal

[wet summit]

Optional stuff like lubing, cable etc

[stark osprey]

https://divinikey.com/products/geon-x-artmu-usb-3-2-cable Asked them to stock, and they came through. Grabbed a few already.

[worldly igloo]

How much i need to order switches for 60he+

[worldly igloo]

That?

https://pl.aliexpress.com/item/1005005913007417.html?spm=a2g0o.detail.0.0.515bfRb0fRb0Xx&mp=1&_gl=1*aol807*_gcl_au*NzE3NjYzODk4LjE3MzQxMTUxODc.*_ga*NjIyNjg4MjA2LjE3MzQxMTUxODY.*_ga_VED1YSGNC7*MTczNDEyMjc1OS4yLjEuMTczNDEyMzU5MS40OS4wLjA.&gatewayAdapt=glo2pol

@marsh saffron

@reef oar

[reef oar]

yeah

[marsh saffron]

Yeah

Id recommend the brass weight if you can spend the extra money for it

If not it's still a great option

[polar girder]

Yeah it’s sweet

[reef oar]

afaik the brass weight is more like a weight off your mind knowing you have it rather than impacting much for the sound profile itself

like MAYBE you'll be able to tell side by side

[polar girder]

Nah

You have it?

Brass weight quite worth aA

[reef oar]

no, but i'm just trusting people's word who have it

[polar girder]

Redux still solid case without

lol ok

Brass not mandatory but worth

[reef oar]

there's probably a sound comparison vid somewhere

[wet summit]

70

[worldly igloo]

what is brass weight for?

[marsh saffron]

Sound + extra weight

[marsh saffron]

Nah it makes quite a big difference

However definitely not necessary to make a good sounding tofu build

[reef oar]

feel like you guys are trolling but i'll allow you to sway my opinion 10%

[marsh saffron]

^

[reef oar]

someone make a sound comparison

[marsh saffron]

Sound test vids are shit anyway

Someone made one in this channel quite a while ago

Makes the case less pingy/resonates less

[lethal mural]

Hey folks, just need a second voice to make sure i have the facts right but, Gateron Jade Pros are not considered long pole switches correct?

atm buying some tx stabs and pretty short the normals will do the trick

[knotty iron]

they are because their stems stick out a bit because of the shorter 3.5mm travel

similar to regular jades

[tropic urchin]

You can use normal ones and use spacers if you want, but Jade pros are long pole.

[lethal mural]

oh they are long poles? fair enough

roger

[tropic urchin]

Moreso if you don’t wanna change your stock stabs, but def get long pole for 3rd party stabs

[lethal mural]

much appreciated folks, love the title Varedis

[tropic urchin]

It’s changed a bit, but I’m a committed pro enthusiast now

[lethal mural]

yeah there are some tx ap long pole avaliable which i will get

1.6mm right?

[tropic urchin]

I think that’s what Mikeytypes used for his 80HE video

[knotty iron]

use 1.6mm stabs because Wooting PCBs are 1.6mm

[lethal mural]

roger

[stone flax]

theyre not long poles but they act like it

[stone flax]

are u planning tx ap screw in?

[lethal mural]

yeah screw ins as I am getting a 60+ module

[stone flax]

dont use tx ap

[lethal mural]

interesting

worst come to worst, ill just use the included ones

[stone flax]

ya why not

[lethal mural]

thanks for the heads up

[quick beacon]

will jade pro switches work on thr 60he+ module? just making sure

[stone flax]

ya

[cyan lark]

Hm, I installed TX APs in both my 80 and 60 with 0 issues.

Maybe I just got lucky

[stone flax]

its bc of plate tolerances

[stone flax]

plate or pcb mount?

[narrow torrent]

what is the best 60he switch?

[stone flax]

prefge

[rustic sparrow]

Are the default lekkers hard to switch out

[stone flax]

preference

[rustic sparrow]

What

[stone flax]

no

[rustic sparrow]

It’s a preference on how hard they are to take out

[stone flax]

no

[cyan lark]

PC plate on both.

Wait

Stabs? Both are PCB mount.

As is the case for every 60/80HE

At least AFAIK

[narrow torrent]

guys is modding easy?

[fluid ravine]

yes and no

[narrow torrent]

idk what should i do , do i get the 60he modded when or should i get the moudle

i just want a white keyboard for my setup

[quick beacon]

yes

[fluid ravine]

wdym 60he modded?

[quick beacon]

just get the module, it has a better plate and better stabs preinstalled

[cyan lark]

Nothing worth doing is easy.

[narrow torrent]

do i need anything else?

[quick beacon]

no but just so you know there’s cheaper aluminium cases out there

[quick beacon]

you dont need the cable the module comes with one included

although not a coiled one

[narrow torrent]

check ur dms please if thats okay

[rustic sparrow]

For a deep satisfying sound, what switches do I want. Geon raw or jades or smth

[polar girder]

Lol

HE doesn’t do “deep”

[tropic urchin]

Both of those are clacky options

[rustic sparrow]

Oh

[sacred elm]

no but i would remove those regular jade switches and order jade pros separately

[tropic urchin]

If you want a deeper sounding switch your best bet are the lekker V2s

[rustic sparrow]

Hmm I’ll see

Idk how to describe it that’s the problem

[sacred elm]

i think you will like jade pros more than raws

[tropic urchin]

Even tho it’s not a perfect science I’d look at the switch sound tests from sander (Wooting YT) to see what strikes your fancy @rustic sparrow

[rustic sparrow]

Ok

[tropic urchin]

I think personally Jade pros sound the best, but others would throw hands with me on that

[rustic sparrow]

Ok

[polar girder]

The “deepest” are black knight and lekker v2

[rustic sparrow]

Idk if i actually wanted deepest

[polar girder]

But they’re not very deep. Just not as high pitches as other top options (Jade pro and raw HE)

[rustic sparrow]

It’s more experimentation rn

Haven’t tried many switches

None actually

[polar girder]

I mean with HE right now it’s either good loud clack or mediocre soft and not clack

But no silent or thock HE switch yet

[rustic sparrow]

What’s a mediocre soft one

[sacred elm]

lekker

[rustic sparrow]

Cause ik that loud clacky is raw and pros

[rustic sparrow]

I ordered 60 instead of 45 is that bad

I didn’t even realise that meant weight at the time I thought it was version 😭

[stone flax]

he doesnt deep

[sacred elm]

no

its fine

[rustic sparrow]

Ok

Thanks

[stone flax]

geon raw he?

💪

[rustic sparrow]

I’ve never heard of black knights before but I quite like them, how’s the rgb and wobble?

Not even that expensive

[tropic urchin]

They’re basically lekkers with a box stem

[rustic sparrow]

Is that good or bad

What does that change

I don’t know too much abt switches

[sacred elm]

lekkers are better

black knights are dogshit

[worthy rover]

I still remember someone posting their black knights and it looked like it was dripping black oil

[tropic urchin]

Not much of anything

Just easier to get lekkers unless you like box stems or want a full black build

[tropic urchin]

Just lube it with some black tar…….. 105g

[worthy rover]

lekkers are... lekker I quite liked the sound

[worthy rover]

https://tenor.com/view/constantine-lucifer-feet-tar-gif-15932599

black knight enjoyers after lubing their switches

[amber hornet]

"lekker" means tasty in dutch

[worthy rover]

oh I know

I dont know dutch but thats one of the things I can say and mostly hear

and also cuckstoel

[sacred elm]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1186265045227802714/1304974208274530334/Screenshot_2024-09-17_143858.png?ex=675d81b0&is=675c3030&hm=79ec5310b9f0017802ffb314a7c30c76d4d8120400e6f1fd583eace16c4ee4fd&

[worthy rover]

I need to know the lore behind this

but I also feel him, switches just look like cruncchy snacks

[sweet oak]

He was hungry

[sacred elm]

i would eat jade pros tho

[stone flax]

lekkers are cheeks

hehehe

[polar girder]

One does not simply lube the black knights.

The black knights lube themselves

[sweet oak]

With a lamb sacrifice

[worthy rover]

[cedar gate]

The 80he has 3rd party cases now

Gt80 kdbfans

[sacred elm]

yes

[devout totem]

Can't wait to get mine

[noble vine]

what are the lightest acc force hall effect switches rn?

[crystal pagoda]

i first gotta ask why ur interested

also

spring swapping would get you the lightest

[cedar gate]

It has a strap too

[cedar gate]

35g by wooting springs In any switch

[stone flax]

There are lighter

[noble vine]

so say i got black knights and also 35g springs that would be A light combo?

[flat cobalt]

https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256808047675634.html

[cyan lark]

35g spring + any switch = a 35g switch (which is very light)

[high sphinx]

Hey can someone explain the difference in long pole stabs and normal stabs please ?

[cyan lark]

Normal stabilizers assume a 4mm switch throw, so when they are lifted up (key is not pressed) they are ~4mm from bottoming out. With long-pole, the pole is longer ( 🙂 ) so the distance from unpressed to bottoming out is shorter, and is meant for use with the shorter throw 3.5mm switches.

[high sphinx]

Ok ty cause i ordered swagkeys knight v2 stabs for my geon raws cause i am having minor issues with standard ones especially on spacebar

The ones i ordered are long pole

[flat cobalt]

https://cannonkeys.com/products/gmk-verdant-retro

[stone flax]

saw this

uv print windows is ehh

at the same time if u use this set ur 99% gonna be wkl

[crystal trail]

I believe knight stablizer v1 was considered as sw v3 stabs

so knights v2 is SW v4?

Im using knights v1 myself (not on a wooting), its pretty good

[high sphinx]

Ok ty man maybe that is it i dont know exactly i am kinda hyped for the knight v2 long poles to arrive tho

[high sphinx]

O see that the swagkey v2 the wore clips in in another way

[crystal trail]

ah didnt know that, that's why they keep selling it

[high sphinx]

I can only find them on their site tho

Nowhere else the swagkeys v2 i mean

[high sphinx]

I think u wzre right about the swagkeys v2 being the oldest

[crystal trail]

thankfully i didnt give false information 🙏

[high sphinx]

Yup than the knights came and then the knight v2

[stone flax]

fake news

[crystal trail]

yea considering one is clip in and one is screw in, I think its misleading to say they are part of 1 line up

[stone flax]

ya

not really

brands can have diff stab lineups

[cold bloom]

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DDD4ODTPhBg/?utm_source=ig_web_button_share_sheet

nansen.xx

WOOTING X OW 60%
OWLAB SAMPLE SWITCH
GMK DMG

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I'm sure someone has mentioned this here

but this looks interesting

the case itself kind of has a leaf spring lmao

the switches sound really nice too tbh

[near barn]

Anyone know if the project optimum deal is over? Can't seem to find it on the site anymore

[neon rune]

a

[flat cobalt]

The keycaps say out of stock

https://wooting.io/product/optimum-case-60

[near barn]

ah makes sense. I found it as a selectable option when ordering a 60he module, thanks!

[fluid ravine]

yup we have this pinged, lowkey the packaging and unboxing goes so hard

[cold bloom]

agreed

def think this is an option to consider with the geon frog mini leggera, not sure which I prefer yet

both diff kind of approaches to the styling

[tough flume]

did jade pro/max work on 80HE guys? I just saw a video said that it didnt work on 80HE is it true or no

[glacial wind]

They work. Although don’t buy the max because they have friction issues, but the pros are good

[tough flume]

thanks. I like pros more than max too🤘 typing sounds look good as well

[stone flax]

geon raw he

[stone flax]

Geon raw he

[hollow heart]

Are lube stations useful? Or any lube tools?, should I just get a station that holds the bottom housing and use bowls for the rest?

I'm getting gateron ks-20u which technically are prelubed should I bother hand lubing?

[quaint thicket]

yes, lube stations is a must when you are going to lube 80~100 switches. and i would get a brush and switch opener. also, for lubes use 205g0 for stems and 105 for the springs. (there is 2 kinds of lubes. 105 for springs and 205 for stems)

[hollow heart]

Yeah I saw people bag lube springs?

[quaint thicket]

I would highly recommend hand lubing since sometimes gateron ones are not really lubed fully...

[quaint thicket]

yup that is 105

[quaint thicket]

ye that is really useful when it is coming to organization

it is easy to lose or get confused when lubign like 80 switches 😭

[hollow heart]

It would be 90 so yeah

[quaint thicket]

ye definately get that station

[hollow heart]

Is there a lube station you like/prefer?

[quaint thicket]

https://www.amazon.com/Keyboard-Switch-Mechanical-Switches-Stabilizers/dp/B09JYWC7BM/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?crid=SP3LWKFIKCID&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.RyqzpqHVgyawk_g_6BxuS3PRS3BOooxAicacDkXju1NKs5ViBjgPuAgIV_idlunuvS29sKMKL5z286H2kZv_YSIfASPa2YFpOxi3SH3EEBypomA4eZwMClx1mIKyvEKyoZSRXdgG38m7Bi2EzZXJWFiS_fuVjjwtCY2Af5L_8tYJlZXA8gzt7iHmEN6lVC5-zuiDLJQMFplbLpsWfRTAIFTNnkrnJEAXq3SCuEKgtQs.LT-PgOhuEqzVyyqgGRV5YvGjyyEyxjgsmGqEAtDkWVc&dib_tag=se&keywords=switch+lubes+105&qid=1734145873&sprefix=switch+lubes+10%2Caps%2C233&sr=8-1-spons&sp_csd=d2lkZ2V0TmFtZT1zcF9hdGY&psc=1

[stone flax]

If u have skill issues yes

[stone flax]

Dont buy this

[stone flax]

Fake

[quaint thicket]

i mean i used that for my milky yellows and it worked fine

[hollow heart]

Ignore him he's being rude for 0 reason

[stone flax]

Bad pricing for fake, off consistency lube

just get genuine keytox from vendors

[quaint thicket]

ye krytox might be better in terms of consisntecy but expensive 💸

[stone flax]

If u wanted lube just called 205 without being anywhere close to the real thing just get the same thing from aliexpress

Instead of paying the markup on amazon

Same dodgy lube but atleast ur actually paying for what ur getting lol

[quaint thicket]

lol

@hollow heart just get krytox actually lol

mj is right lmao

(but 2 times the price)

[hollow heart]

Gotcha and what about since the switches I'm getting are pre lubed does that change anything?

[quaint thicket]

since its pre lubed, it is going to be better but Gaterons ones seemed to not be fully lubed...

[calm pulsar]

my experience with geon raws and jade pros is that it is best to lube the springs, the whole switch is not really needed, but can be done later

[hollow heart]

Would I focus on adding lube or would I have to clean them?

[stone flax]

What switches

[hollow heart]

Ks-20u

[stone flax]

XD

[hollow heart]

Gateron ks-20u

[stone flax]

why

Dual rail is a cope

A hoax

[calm pulsar]

also these are open botton, so essentially lekkers from gateron xd

[calm pulsar]

yet another psyop from gateron smh

[stone flax]

Genuinely might have worse tolerances

Not joking

If lekker v2

[polar girder]

Yeah I mean when you’re hoping for the best for HE sometimes one can be delusional

I thought dual rail and box stem would make a difference

But now I know better

Lolz

[calm pulsar]

yeah, which is why you build my frankenswitch

[hollow heart]

I just like the sound

[calm pulsar]

[hollow heart]

Idk what double rail even means lol

[polar girder]

Yeah that’s chill

[calm pulsar]

if you like the sound, stock wooting switches are pretty much that

[polar girder]

You have a favorite sound for HE?

[calm pulsar]

but you also probably listened to some videos, which aren't exactly reality

so just try the stock ones (if have them) and see if you like it

imo ofc

[polar girder]

Yeah it does seem like the best option rn NGL

[hollow heart]

Yeah I figured but I've watched a lot of videos, and nah I just bought PCB

So I just got cheap switches to learn how to lube and figured I could wait for them to perfect the he switches?

[calm pulsar]

i'd advise searching for videos where different switches are specifically compared in one keyboard, this will give a better idea of how they sound between each other

from there decide on open bottom vs closed bottom

if you have them on the way I guess you can just go with them initially

I would say there's only 2 major types of HE switches: open bottom and closed bottom

this particular variable is the biggest change between different models

[hollow heart]

Yeah it's not like I'm thinking Thier the best, but Thier gateron so I'm assuming quality should be good to learn to lube them

[stone flax]

…….

[calm pulsar]

the process is very similar between different models

[stone flax]

have u typed

On a board

And heard

[hollow heart]

And I bet someone will come out with a switch I like later down the line, but getting to the point, should I get a lubing station for bottom cases

[stone flax]

What it sounds like

Cuz im ngl if ur basing this sound preference of youtube videos its cooked

[calm pulsar]

uhh I'd say it is only really necessary if you do it a lot

lubing

[stone flax]

Ks20u gen 1’s are genuinely worse than lekker v2/hejins lol

youtube sound tests are all lies

[calm pulsar]

yeah I would agree

[hollow heart]

But everything j see makes leakers sound so clicky and ks-20s sound much quieter

[stone flax]

^

[ionic breach]

lego tented ergo

imma flip a coin

welp nvm then

[hollow heart]

Than what should I get 😭

[ionic breach]

kinda sick tho

[hollow heart]

I just what quieter switch mann

[calm pulsar]

the coin said you're a grown man stop playing legos

[ionic breach]

the connector is cool but idk how reliable it is

[calm pulsar]

[ionic breach]

[hollow heart]

I cancelled the ks-20 order 😭😔

[ionic breach]

how quiet

[calm pulsar]

ks20u isnt really quieter than lekkers or other open bottoms, no major changes between them

[ionic breach]

standard lekkers v2s on the 80he is quite muted alr

[glacial wind]

Just stick with stock lekkers if you need a quieter switch

[hollow heart]

I already order the PCB without switches 😭

[ionic breach]

probably get it on a market place

founders got a free pack each

so there is alot out there

[tranquil jacinth]

i purchased blue crazed keycaps from cerakeys with no legends to put onto my Wooting 60 HE. My current wooting is full on stock, do you think I need to get stronger springs in order for the keys to pop back up ?

[ionic breach]

maybe on the space

[tranquil jacinth]

also, what is the difference from the original 60 HE vs HE+ ?

[calm pulsar]

just stab support

[ionic breach]

to have the same feeling

[calm pulsar]

plus allows pcb mounted ones

[tranquil jacinth]

what does this mean ? pcb mounted switches ?

[calm pulsar]

pcb mounted stabilizers

[tranquil jacinth]

ohhh

[calm pulsar]

the og 60he only allows plate mounted ones to be installed

[tranquil jacinth]

so just get new springs and then deconstruct my current switches replace springs with stronger ones and thats it ?

[calm pulsar]

which weight you have currently?

maybe it would only be necessary to change the spacebar, if you have like 60g switches

[tranquil jacinth]

my wooting 60 HE original is completely stock besides my keycaps.

so idk what weight the stock springs are.

[calm pulsar]

ok so 60g

[ionic breach]

60s

[calm pulsar]

I'd say just change the spacebar spring to a heavier one

as Drakon suggested

[tranquil jacinth]

does that mean i have to purchase a pack of heavier springs from the wooting site just for my space bar ?

[calm pulsar]

kinda😭 or from another place

you could ofc use them all if you like a heavier feeling with your caps

[tranquil jacinth]

nah i use my keyboard specifically for gaming so i like the lightness feeling to them.

or would the heavier springs improve the bounce and reaction of each key ?

[hollow heart]

What would be the best switches that have very little side to side movement?

[calm pulsar]

the bounce is improved with a heavier spring, and since HE boards have immediate actuation, a heavier spring doesnt really change the actuation speed

only the physical feeling

[calm pulsar]

geon raw he are probably the best in that regard

[ionic breach]

ttc magnetos maybe

but their sound is not my preference

[hollow heart]

Nah I heard Thier super load

Loud

[calm pulsar]

but they are also closed bottom, so they are a bit clackier sounding

heijins/lekker v2s then

[tranquil jacinth]

so you would have a better re-press time ? if that makes sense ?? sorry

[calm pulsar]

the upstroke will be snappier with a stronger spring yeah

[hollow heart]

I think I'll go with the raws then

[glacial wind]

Another successful conversion

praise be geon

[fluid ravine]

[stone flax]

too easy

[ionic breach]

ur profile reminds me of the lewd ai

[stone flax]

:<<<<<

[tranquil jacinth]

thank you !! also do you recommend buying springs from their site or are springs just universal.

[calm pulsar]

there are some on aliexpress, but I recommend avoiding dual stage ones cause they are bad quality

single stage springs on AE seem fine, at least the ones I used

make sure to search for springs for magnetic switches specifically

but wooting ones are also perfectly good

[cedar gate]

Praise be geon

[cyan lark]

Praise the knob

[chilly mural]

This layout genuinely goated for rhythm game

[cyan lark]

Believe

[chilly mural]

If only wooting makes those

Numpad would work too

[tranquil jacinth]

what weight do you recommend ? i want it to be springy but also not too hard to press down.

[calm pulsar]

if you like your stock feeling, then with cerakeys my guess would be 70-80g, since they are quite heavier

[tranquil jacinth]

understood, thank you !! also are the lekker 45s just lekker switches but with 45g springs ?

[calm pulsar]

yes

[cyan lark]

They're also yellow instead of green 🙂

[cedar gate]

What is yalls favorite clacky mx switch

Planning to build one

[tranquil jacinth]

whats the difference between magnetic and non ? the ones that wooting sell are non-magnetic.

[calm pulsar]

I meant the springs that are suitable for magnetic switches

the diameter is bigger on HE switch springs, and also they have to be made out of non-magnetic material

[cedar gate]

HE has a bigger stem because the stem stores a magnet that interacts with the
Pcb

[tranquil jacinth]

so safe way to go would be to purchase thru wootings site correct ?

hopefully the 70g can uphold my heavy spacebar 😭

or i might go with 80 just to be on the safe side aswell

[cedar gate]

What set?

[tranquil jacinth]

60 HE

[cedar gate]

70g is a lot it may bother you

[cedar gate]

Keycap set

[tranquil jacinth]

oh sorry, i purchased ceramic keycaps from cerakeys not too long ago

[cedar gate]

60g is plenty

[cedar gate]

Np

I would advise against more than 60

[tranquil jacinth]

oh okay perfect, thank you !! ive heard complaints that the space bar doesnt hold its position and it feels mushy.

but like you said, ill just wait for the set to arrive and test it out before having to purchase stronger springs.

[tranquil jacinth]

if you think 60g is plenty for all the keys besides the spacebar, would 45g be too light for ceramic keys then ?

[glacial wind]

For space bar 70g is fine

[cedar gate]

For 100% space bar stability 60g or more is recommended

[cedar gate]

Isn't that a bit overkill?

[glacial wind]

No it’s cerakeys

70g will feel like 60g with that

[cedar gate]

So 70g for space bar and 60 for the rest?

[glacial wind]

something like that yeah. People tend to forget that 60g is a below average tension already outside of gaming

[cedar gate]

Yeah I'm using 50g rn that's perfect for me

[glacial wind]

average cherry is like 60g and a lot of non cherrys are 65ish

it's only in gaming where people see 60g and think it's heavy

and only because we've 'price anchored' or in this case 'tension anchored' the expectation lower because people see 45g and think 60g is a lot

if we didn't have l45 and had l60 and l70, people would be like "oh man L60 is perfect, super light, not like that L70"

[stone flax]

Ceramic

[cedar gate]

Even for gaming too light is no go because it won't have that agility springing back up I think 45-55 is perfect

Nice and spammable

[shy badger]

what do you guys think about ceramic keycaps?

[glacial wind]

interesting but not for me. They're slippery and would feel worse for me, have questionable durability/qc and are extremely expensive

[fathom remnant]

defnetly not for heavy gaming or carrying
as I felt, in low spring tension, switches tend to move bit slower due to keycap's weight.
might be ok with 60g or more spring, but I used 40g spring with cera keycaps.

[main mason]

that wont be thick enough to fill the enitre space bar tho

where can i find these type of keycaps

the edges of the keycaps are smooth

[uneven cradle]

XDA/DSA profile keycaps are pretty rounded like that

[polar girder]

https://www.instagram.com/p/DDgnDDdvCv0/

geonworks

You do know.

#f1-40
#mechkeys
#geonworks
#722

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[main mason]

whats a good keycap material for thocc

ceramic?

[polar girder]

Yeah

[main mason]

hm

i dont want a loud clack tho

just a nice creamy feel

like a deep sound

[polar girder]

Lekker v2, cera keycaps, plastic plate, foam

Don’t expect too deep with HE yet tho

[static tendon]

New cable

[timid night]

anyone have some black or white keycaps that has like simple symbols

[fluid ravine]

it's giving frozen llama

[static tendon]

Yeah! I got some teal keycaps on the way as well. It should match well together

[sacred elm]

https://shop.wuquestudio.com/products/ws-pbt-bow-keycaps-1

[chilly mural]

ooo, on sale

[sacred elm]

theyre probably even cheaper on ali

[quasi blaze]

Is it supposed to be this hard to remove the 80he top case? I wanted to apply the tape mod so I followed their instructions but can't seem to get the top case off as easily.

[ionic breach]

slide it up

its a hook

not up

but the top case away from you

wait is that pcr?

[tidal frigate]

40% case

[quasi blaze]

Yes its pcr. I pushed it quite a bit that it starts to bend but its still not budging and im scared it will break

[tidal frigate]

You have tutorial on wooting channel

[ionic breach]

there are 3 clips at the bottom iirc

[quasi blaze]

Theres only 1 left in the middle thats not budging

[tidal frigate]

https://youtu.be/LNa5wuqiFVY?si=nUMfQnX9piLuK4De

Do it as on video

[ionic breach]

take out the keycaps first

[quasi blaze]

Yeah i said i followed their instructions exactly but its still stuck on that one middle clip

[quasi blaze]

Ok, will try now.

[ionic breach]

just the ones near the clips btw

then gently disconnect each clip

https://youtu.be/2gnstQCvHSA?t=389

heres the disassembly guide

[quasi blaze]

Ah i see, my dumbass skipped the "zinc alloy tutorial" screen and has been following the zinc tutorial instead of pcr one. Thanks.

[ionic breach]

np

[quasi blaze]

Hm, is it alarming if the jst cable is bent 90 degrees?

[glacial wind]

looks fine to me

[quasi blaze]

Okie 👍

Im changing the foam to some polyfil

Wish me luck

[polar girder]

Yeah pretty neat

[knotty iron]

imo they should consider just doing a ball catch mechanism with no clips

if they make a case revision

this will insentivise more people to try opening and modding too

no more broken chassis clips anymore

[fallen pecan]

Even in china ball catches are only on metal cases

Good idea though

[knotty iron]

adding a bit of metal to PCR cases may be a good idea tho for structural rigidity

im not a designer but it would be interesting to propose an idea that could work

but I just need to figure out how it would be executed

[slender umbra]

Waiting on some jade switches to arrive and a new set of keycaps

[vague stag]

surprised that no one has replied with "Geon Raw better"

[sacred elm]

which jades

if regular jades then GEON RAW BETTER

[glacial wind]

i see badseed is converted to the church of geon now as well

[sacred elm]

he is jade pro / geon raw enjoyer

absolute chad

[random hull]

already got the spacebar foam, ali must have that in an EU warehouse or something

the wait for the actual spacebar continues

[gleaming crane]

Are geon raws really that much better? Or is it just personal preference, I’ve just recently got back into customizing my keyboard and wanted to switch out the standard jades but don’t know what for

[glacial wind]

Vs what?

The original jades?

[gleaming crane]

Regular jades

[edgy totem]

i was sold when keybored used the geons for the 80he, and it was fantastic.

[glacial wind]

They’re noticeably tighter stem. Whether that bothers you or not is up to you though

[gleaming crane]

Not really, that was never really an issue for me, are the geons closed or open bottom?

[glacial wind]

They’re semi closed

Meaning they are closed-ish when you bottom out because the hole isn’t passed through by the stem

[gleaming crane]

Interesting

[edgy totem]

also the geons stem is more like a long stem switch

[gleaming crane]

I kind of like the shorter stem. how are the jade pros?

[glacial wind]

They’re just jades but tighter stem and better magnet tolerance

So sameish deal as raw he

[gleaming crane]

Ooo okay

[edgy totem]

yea comes down to personal preferences at that point

here's a geon reference from keybored https://youtu.be/2NSQ8H2QkRw?t=605

around 9:58

[glacial wind]

He has normal jades already so he’ll be used to sound profile already

[edgy totem]

(for geons)

[gleaming crane]

Thx🙏

[glacial wind]

Geon raw he, jades, jade pro all very close sound profiles

You’re mostly just getting tighter stem if you upgrade

And less chatter sound since it’s tighter stem of course

[sacred elm]

yea jade pros sound cleaner compared to regular jades

and feel better

[edgy totem]

i hear the sticky rice v2 sound even more thoccy but not sure since the v1 had some issues

[gleaming crane]

Yea, I’ve just been out of customizing for a while ever since i “completed” my board but now am contemplating whether or not different switches are worth the purchase

[glacial wind]

Sticky rice are trash switches

[sacred elm]

sticky rice is dogwater

[edgy totem]

got it! figured best place to ask haha

[glacial wind]

You basically get deeper sound but worse stem wobble and feel with the sticky rice v2

[sacred elm]

if youre fine with sound of your current jades id say its not worth the upgrade

[edgy totem]

same here, ordered the 80he and going down the rabbit hole once again

[gleaming crane]

When I completed my board raptors and jades were like the only switches for he boards, there’s like 5 different jades now😭

[sacred elm]

I would wait for the sale on jade pros if you decide to go for them, now they are very expensive

[old sapphire]

Get them on Ali express

[rustic sparrow]

Could you do me a massive favour and dm me if you ever see an offer

[gleaming crane]

Not only that but I’m dreading relubing them😪

[sacred elm]

alright

[sacred elm]

daddy magix major winner 🥶

[rustic sparrow]

Tysm

[flat cobalt]

Jade Pro 2 when

[sacred elm]

jade pro max

[cyan lark]

Jade Full Time Employee

[sullen salmon]

have you tried the jade maxes?

they seem to sound great but ive heard about sticky/grinding issues

[glacial wind]

Nah not buying them to sample for now. Friction issues is no fun

[sullen salmon]

yeah fair enough

got a favourite HE switch?

[glacial wind]

jade pro/raw he for overall, ttc magneto pom for performance

[sullen salmon]

performance? was under the impression they all performed just about the same

[glacial wind]

more stable switches reduce deadzone more

so with the really stable switches like ttc magneto pom your deadzone drops to almost nothing

[sullen salmon]

might have to look into those

[glacial wind]

don't buy ttc magnetos unless you're okay with the sound though lol

[sullen salmon]

however ill probably wait until some more things come out and then order an 80he

will have to chedck sound tests yeah

[glacial wind]

they're really loud, clacky and not for everyone

like obnoxiously loud

[sullen salmon]

yeah im a fein for thock

[hollow heart]

I just ordered raw he 50g :)

Is there a good tool kit I can buy for lubing? I'm gonna get the space cables lube station for lubing the bottom housing and bowls for the springs, and stems.

[cyan lark]

You just need some small brushes

Wooting sells a kit that includes brushes, but it sounds like you've already got the other bits covered https://wooting.io/product/blank-switch-toolkit?Option=Switch+tool+set

And if you need lube https://wooting.io/product/wooting-switch-lubricant-lube-set?Option=Wooting+Lubrication+set

[harsh dove]

[steel tendon]

Hi, I've just ordered a Wooting 60HE+ Module and wanted to know if it would be compatible with this case, thank you in advance for your reply. https://kbdfans.com/products/holy60-case?variant=41831431372939

[glacial wind]

It is compatible

[stone flax]

Yes

100 yuan resin60 better

[cyan lark]

https://tenor.com/view/single-parents-excited-fuck-yeah-yes-yeah-gif-15442849

[stone flax]

[steel tendon]

🤔 a thank you, I don't know this one, could you send a link to see

[glacial wind]

he's talking about a resin clone case of it from taobao/aliexpress

[steel tendon]

okay, I didn’t get it at first, but I’ll look to see if I can find something similar tnx

if I were to take the Holy 60 anyway, would you advise me to take the Holy60 Bottom cover panel with it?

[ionic breach]

how much is it?

[glacial wind]

honestly that's up to you. The sound isn't going to be great either way because of how the case is built

[ionic breach]

wait since when is the holy60 200 bucks

[glacial wind]

it's always been super pricy

[cyan lark]

It's too bad the holy sounds the way it does, cause it is admittedly beautiful

[ionic breach]

oh nvm thats the whole thing

119 for case

cover is 25

up to u ig

[harsh dove]

$120 for a case that’s missing 80% of the material kinda funny

[ionic breach]

very profitable business model

[cyan lark]

I mean, I get what you're saying, but getting the material removed in such an intricate pattern isn't cheap.

[calm pulsar]

feels like a waste, they are probably just cutting out that material from the initial mold

[harsh dove]

I like the design don’t get me wrong, not the acoustics tho, just funny when you think about it

[cyan lark]

Like a log isn't expensive, but a wood carving is. 🤯

[steel tendon]

Ah okay, thanks for the details! The case is definitely beautiful, but it makes you think considering the price and the sound... Do you have any other cases to recommend? Maybe one with sides like the Holy60 but with a solid bottom?

[cyan lark]

Alumaze & tofu are aluminum cases folks like w/ solid bottoms

snickers at the phrase "solid bottoms"

[steel tendon]

I know, but I really like the sides of the holy60 but I'd like the underside to be full, doesn't that exist?

[crystal pagoda]

na

[harsh dove]

There’s also the 461E Case if you haven’t seen that

[hollow heart]

So just the lube wooting toolkit, and a switch bottom case holder would be enough?

[steel tendon]

🫤 I'll have to take a tofu 60 and cut the sides myself.

[stone flax]

toolkits are optional tbh

[ionic breach]

ya

if u have a brush

[steel tendon]

I'll check it thanks

[stone flax]

its more than enough to be honest lol

[stone flax]

😭

[ionic breach]

[stone flax]

bros into the trypophobia inducing sides

[cyan lark]

Yeah, lubing only requires you to be able to 1. get at the parts (switch opener) 2. apply lube (brush) and (optional 3. a lubing station to make it easier to assemble)

[stone flax]

u dont even need a switch opener

unless winglatch tbh

[cyan lark]

Oh come on. You really think it's wise to recommend people do a full lube job without a switch opener?

[sacred elm]

opening switches with tweezers😎

[cyan lark]

https://tenor.com/view/i-would-rather-bleed-out-mad-gif-14610908

[stone flax]

lmfao at the peeps who like sending over gmkkeycap/gmkkeycaps

https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/1hdxdyi/potential_malware_gmk_keycap_site/

[hollow heart]

Toolkit only 8$ and has got brush

[ionic breach]

get it is u want

[stone flax]

do u want it

[hollow heart]

I just mean I'll just get that instead of a brush alone

[cedar gate]

Once you see it you don't un see it

[true patrol]

-wooting x frog mini
-geon raw HE
-pc plate from hypekeyboards
-some random semitransparent caps I found on aliex and decided to try out

[cyan lark]

Love the look of those caps. I think your spacebar might be on backwards, though?

[true patrol]

it is, prefer it that way

[tropic urchin]

I do like each key cap is kind of a different color, very colorful

[calm pulsar]

not only a fellow frog mini user, but also custom dual senses👀

[reef oar]

flipped spacebar enjoyer

[true patrol]

Indeed!

[reef oar]

just replaced the silicone pad with the poron

hopefully it'll reduce the resonation a lil

my tiny screwdriver is breaking though

rounded at the edges

almost wasn't able to unscrew some of them

[true patrol]

better the screwdriver than the screws

[reef oar]

took like 2 minutes to catch on one of the screws

true

thank god they weren't giga tightened

[calm pulsar]

its like the badass skeleton memes 😄

[tropic urchin]

Upvoted for shiny gold custom

[calm pulsar]

here's my, single piece front shell

[true patrol]

lol it's warhammer 40k but I think to piss off my friends who play warhammer I'm just gonna start telling them "yeah it's some badass skeleton I saw"

[tropic urchin]

now you just need carbon fiber mouse

[stone flax]

aifei on top

[true patrol]

ah, yeah I figured they were aifei, just wasn't positive

other than a slight issue with the font on a couple keys, i'm surprised at the quality for how cheap they were

[calm pulsar]

I've seen some asus rog mouse that is carbon fiber, looks good

[errant shell]

im sorry i read this as "heres my single piece of shit from hell" and i was so confused as to why you were calling a controller that 😭

[calm pulsar]

my piece from hell would be my frankenswitches

[tropic urchin]

https://tenor.com/view/chihuahua-cane-recensionivere-cosa-what-gif-7417567602944477819

[sacred elm]

asus rog mouse and azoth would go hard tho 😳🥶

[tropic urchin]

that shit made me depressed reading

[calm pulsar]

just the shape haha

42k dpi lmao

marketing bs goes through the roof

[tropic urchin]

If you like the shape, new stormbreaker might be up your alley

https://www.eloshapes.com/mouse/compare?p=asus-rog-harpe-ace-extreme-vs.-pwnage-stormbreaker-max

the only thing I dont like about it is the mouse wheel is a little stiffer than some of my other mice, but I already feel better knowing half my hand isnt fused with my raiden pad

[calm pulsar]

well for now my sora v2 suits me well
after this one I seem to like the back bump

as opposed to my previous viper v2 pro

[tropic urchin]

thats actually crazy sora and the SB max are very close weight wise 💀

[ionic breach]

damn they dont look too bad

[tropic urchin]

its been surprisingly really good coming off DAV3 Pro and VV3 Pro

[ionic breach]

looks like a finalmouse

without the weirdness

[tropic urchin]

first pwnage mouse for me and i didnt realize how much I missed the ergo mice shape

[tropic urchin]

its one of the FM clones, but I really enjoy their diamond holes versus the giant rectangular holes in FM and some WL mice

[ionic breach]

too light for me tho

shame

[tropic urchin]

Im using it with jade skates on a raiden pad so you might glide it off the table 🤣

for being the size it is and being so light, it doesnt feel real

it made me realize the coating on the DAV3 pro upstairs is actually terrible

if they get rid of the side holes for their magnesium stormbreakers, im 1000% trying it at some point

[tropic urchin]

My first reaction to using it on 1600 DPI on raiden was that it felt like I was using 2k+ DPI

[sacred elm]

2k dpi is light work buddy

hop on 6400 dpi

[ionic breach]

fr

[tropic urchin]

now try 6400 DPI with normal windows settings

I dare you

[sacred elm]

💀

[tropic urchin]

nah yall cray cray

[sacred elm]

https://tenor.com/view/noooo-twitch-emote-twitch-emote-7tv-gif-3053074376810035456

higher than me gg

[tropic urchin]

I could sooner go back to 800 DPI from 1600 (never happening) than I could try 6-7k dpi with 0.00000000001 in game sens

[idle axle]

keycaps

[sacred elm]

keycaps

[tropic urchin]

capskey

[idle axle]

Hi, does anyone know where I can get DSA profile AZERTY keycaps for my wooting 60he please?

[polar girder]

Yeah 3200 is or 1600 is where it’s at

[idle axle]

?

[idle axle]

WHAT IS THIS ?

i am from belgium

[tropic urchin]

hes talking mouse DPI

[polar girder]

Yeah I wasn’t talking to you. Sorry

[idle axle]

ok np

[idle axle]

ok np

[kind helm]

you can use raw accel to lower it, i used to push DPI to the highest value then scale it down with raw accel, it is a bit smoother but after i saw optimum's video i am not sure how accurate that it

like "same" edpi when you set it to higher DPI the sensitivity is actually still higher even when you scale it down, that matches with optimum's video too, higher dpi seems to be more off compare to lower dpi in terms of actual speed it should have

[tropic urchin]

I’ve tried it before, I like to try and keep it as 1:1 as possible without messing with it too much. I’ve had great and terrible experiences with it

[kind helm]

i am sticking with 1600 dpi rn, i dont even use 8K pooling anymore since i stopped playing "competitive" FPS game

[noble vine]

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0D1QN7FP4/ref=ox_sc_act_image_1?smid=A1T4UWK1TJW5G8&psc=1

would those be a good alternative for the wooting 35g springs?

how long are the wooting springs these I have linked at 22mm

[cyan lark]

14mm I believe

[sacred elm]

lekkers are shorter, like 14mm

20mm is nice

[noble vine]

would 22mm cause it to function incorrectly? im trying to get the 35g springs just without the week long shipping from wooting

[sacred elm]

it will function the same

[noble vine]

so whats the difference between 14 and 22mm

[sacred elm]

it will just feel a bit heavier because of longer spring

[noble vine]

noticeably heavier?

[sacred elm]

nah