🔧│keyboard_modding

[glacial wind]

i doubt most people own xht-bdz these days though because all the new style stabs don't even use thicker greases

[hollow dagger]

Right makes sense

[glacial wind]

for awhile it was the goated lube before all of these 205g0 only stabs came out

[hollow dagger]

Might be dumb cause idk much about stabs, but is the purpose of the grease just to eliminate tick/rattles?

[calm pulsar]

they are oem profile it seems

[glacial wind]

pretty much yeah. To stop wire rattling about

[hollow dagger]

Oh ok it makes complete sense now

[flat cobalt]

I hate life

[hollow dagger]

So 'heavy' stabs makes sense

[flat cobalt]

I didn’t pay attention when I was reading

[glacial wind]

as newer style stabs that have tpu/silicone have become the norm it's a lot harder to get ticking nowadays so the thicker lubes aren't needed and you can make the wire tolerances tighter while using just 205g0

[calm pulsar]

cosmos on their own should already be quite cool

[flat cobalt]

Hopefully they’ll let me return them

[flat cobalt]

Ayyy they’ll let me return them

[strange bloom]

Have my wooting 60 HE since march 2023 and I just learned about the 60 HE+

Looks like I’ve been living in a cave

Just wanted to vent about it

Thanks for listening

[ionic breach]

dw abt it

its the same performance wise if ur worried abt it

just a quality of life update

[signal ridge]

they have screw in stabs only diff i think

[ionic breach]

compatibility*

same stabs on prebuilts

[strange bloom]

I wanted to put o-rings on the screws, is it possible on the 60 HE right?

[strange bloom]

Yes I know but I guess the HE+ module will offer more mod possibilities with this change

[calm pulsar]

just stabs

[polar girder]

https://www.fortnite.com/news/fortnite-goes-first-person-with-ballistic-a-tactical-5v5-shooter-launching-in-early-access-dec-11

Nice lol

[tropic urchin]

they might as well buyout Ubisoft

[chilly mural]

uwaa

[tropic urchin]

looks interesting

[tidal frigate]

So they made another valorant

[strange bloom]

Oki

[strange bloom]

wtf

[glacial wind]

Surely that isn’t the move for Fortnite. It’s incredibly hard for them to be yet another tact fps shooter when valorant already expanded into Asia

Eu is never dropping cs for this and na is already valorant pilled so where do they even try exist

[random hull]

yeah i dont think the gunplay in fortnite is good enough that such a gamemode is going to do it for the people that are looking for that tbh

[glacial wind]

Feels like they built a game for a niche that was already filled

[random hull]

the keyboard feels really nice to type on. im just gonna have to figure out this polyfil thing and then i can finish it up

[glacial wind]

Oh pbtfans is doing blanks now I see

Lyla would fit really nice with optimum case

https://kbdfans.com/products/pbtfans-lyla

[cedar gate]

Blanks are so clean

Nice and cheap too

[balmy shoal]

would you consider buying new keycaps for 80HE or stock are good enought?

[random hull]

imo its more so that you can give it your own style

[balmy shoal]

I'm purely after quality here, not an artistic soul

[random hull]

id say theirs will do just fine then

[polar girder]

But more like CS

with a hint of that new one

[polar girder]

NEEDZ MOAR HIFI

1.3 thin

Good for clack

Lolz

[tidal frigate]

It has valorant abilities

[stone flax]

Holy wtf

those are some thin blanks

[fallen pecan]

jesus thats thick, my $8 caps are only 1.7mm thin

[random hull]

one more thing i wanted to ask when you do the polyfil mod, do you aim to cover the base of a case entirely, or just a few big spots (left/center/right). not really sure how much i should aim for. or is it all up to taste. what do you prefer?

[balmy tiger]

I’ve honestly sticked with 60 % for ages but thinking of the function keys and arrow keys since the cases are like limited it might have to be keychron q1 it’s either that or the wooting60he but I’m more on the (playing competitively) side other than esthetics

[glacial wind]

I am curious to see what they mean by skin like feel

[fallen pecan]

Anyone typed on one of these sets before?

[cedar gate]

I don't mean to yuck someone's yum but that keycap shape makes my fingers hurt to look at

[fallen pecan]

just curious if it gives negative gains

[devout totem]

Type and game on it without issues

[fallen pecan]

sweet

[polar girder]

Fr

[reef oar]

know where i can get a coiled cable that isn't like £40?

even 20 is fine lowkey

[jade narwhal]

u can search on aliexpress

[reef oar]

i actually did have a look, but they're all TOO cheap

like idk about buying a £0.30 coiled cable

okay more like £4

but that's still too low

[abstract kernel]

Anyone has any idea why my spacebar feels heavy and slow to come up, and sometimes wont come up all the way to the end? I swapped the stabs for TX rev4 and assumed i overlubed so now they’re practically clean with barely any lube and it still feels heavy

[polar girder]

Yeah my tx stabs conflicted with plate

If the switch without keycaps rebounds like normal then probably stab issue

Some plates but pressure on TX housing

Create friction

For me was the issue

[opal hawk]

just want to say thanks, I found the bag with the stand offs and completed the build.

this isn't modding persay - but, I was wondering if anyone knows how I can make Cap Locks be a different colour when it's active. I can't figure it out in Wootility and I feel stupid lol

[abstract kernel]

What did u do then

Spacebar was perfectly fine before swapping the stab so i dont believe its the switch

[polar girder]

Used stock stabs and bought some other ones tho

Trouble shoot to see if switch rebounds ok

Maybe re attach plate

Make sure no issues with assembly

[abstract kernel]

My keyboard was already built

I jsut opened it up to swap stabs

Switch bounces back if i click it

The geon raw he

Idk if they’re a problem

[tropic urchin]

atleast for mine the caps lock has a lighter color to it when you press it

mine has a little teal color next to it which lights up when its pressed

[opal hawk]

ah it might be cause i switched to white lights for my new build and it doesn't show lol

wanted to make it turn a different solid colour when activated

[tropic urchin]

if you right click the little dot, it should let you pick a different color and then you have to confirm it

[opal hawk]

Im using the browser version and that isn't happening, so going to install the desktop app and see if that gives me the ability

thank you!

hm, nothing happens when I right click, strange.

[ionic breach]

pick colour first

then left click the button

[steep glacier]

Anybody know if the gmmk fox HE switches work with wooting?

[polar girder]

Yeah just make sure you lined everything up perfectly with plate and stabs when re assembled

But also could be the plate/stabs not compatible

[abstract kernel]

i just ended up sanding the plate where the stab housing goes a bit

the issue was mainly on the spacebar and enter so

pro tip: probably a good idea to do it outside the case, and definitely not when the keycaps are in

[abstract kernel]

i may have scarred a few 😅

[tawny wagon]

Anyone has good recommendations for a PBT OEM shine through keycaps?

[teal zodiac]

is it possible to get the 60he into a huntsman mini case?

[stone flax]

none are good

[polar girder]

No

[jaunty ruin]

guys

long time no see

[jaunty ruin]

shouldnt be

[tidal frigate]

I dont think so

[quick beacon]

Hey guys’ Currently looking into my first “custom build” if you can call it that but I’m new to this so I would appreciate some feedback and want to know if these parts would even fit together or if there are any comparability issues!

I am planning to order the wooting 60he+ module and combine it with

The tofu60redux + Geon Raw HE switches 50mgs but I am still looking for keycaps, is there anything I need to know to make sure keycaps are conparible woth the pcb and the geon raw switches?

[polar girder]

No

Any MX stem style will work

Any profile

(Wouldn’t recommend low profile keycaps cuz of shallow depth but they’ll still work)

[quick beacon]

So these would work just as an example?

[fluid ravine]

for polyfill, you would fill it up the case as much as you want, but you shouldn't be filling the case up to the point where you have to forcefully push it down with the pcb to mount it.

[crystal pagoda]

https://www.alexotos.com/keyboard-vendor-list/

or taobao or aliexpress

but those take some fenangling to find what is actually good quality

[tawny wagon]

Wdym

Is there like nothing

[hot hamlet]

Anyone have any tips for cutting the stabilizer holes in the stock metal 60he+ plate for screw in stabilizers? I have a set of tx ap long poles that are 6.8mm while the cutout in the plate is 6.7mm.

[polar girder]

Yes

[random hull]

hmm okay, i see. good to know. so preferably it wouldnt be touching the pcb at all. maybe no higher than what the original included foam is like? I am actually not too sure how close that black foam gets to the pcb itself. appreciate the reply, i can work with this for now

[stone flax]

u asked for good recommendations

none are good in terms of quality

[stone flax]

you dont want it to be dense

[random hull]

what in the mod is the purpose of the polyfil, i understand what it does for the sound but its not supposed to interact with the pcb at all?

[tawny wagon]

I’m looking now at cherry profile caps but they seem shorter in size

They do have some good designs

[stone flax]

????

its not tape mod

its just a substition of dampening style like case foam

[random hull]

alright, yeah just was wondering if there was any flex going on in that it had a purpose or anything but its just the layer to dampen the sound then, similar to the foam that came with it

[eternal pewter]

any good switches for thock/cream

[tidal frigate]

Not this again

[eternal pewter]

my bad

[fluid ravine]

it's fine for it to touch the pcb again, im just saying don't fill it to the point where you have to like forcefully compress it for the pcb to fit into the case kinda thing

and like what mj said, dont make it dense meaning dont put too much

[random hull]

alright thanks

[tidal frigate]

You cant achive thock on he switch

[eternal pewter]

good to know

[random hull]

ill experiment a bit tomorrow and hopefully get a feel for what i like

[dry rune]

will these work with wooting 60he and are they worth it?

this one?

umm so which ones?

[marble sierra]

Most use raws

https://geon.works/products/geon-raw-he-switch

[dry rune]

Does that sound better?

[quick beacon]

I ordered these, apparently best sound from the reviews I’ve seen

[dry rune]

idk I want to mod mine but i have never done it

[quick beacon]

These would fit the 60he module?

ofc with leftovers keys but whatever

[dry rune]

Can I find them inside eu

[quick beacon]

For me i bought them from aliexpress (official kbdfans store on there) 5€ shipping there

[marble sierra]

yeah was abut to say try there

[quick beacon]

btw I would get 50mgs , since the actuation force is bottoming out not beginning

[dry rune]

No idea what that even means

So like are those raws better than ws dash

[quick beacon]

domt know the ws dash but raws are at the level of gaterom jade pros or even better for some

[dry rune]

ohh

gues im gonna buy them off aliexpress

Does the kbdfans have any good keycaps?

[marble sierra]

I find keycaps personal preference as long as they fit

[dry rune]

They're basically the same price on aliexpress and the official store

[marble sierra]

A little cheaper tho xD

[dry rune]

Yeah

[tropic urchin]

if you're considering a gateron switch id compare the RAWs to Jade pros which will have better tolerances and a longer spring for improved rebound over Dashes

[quick beacon]

Use the 5€ discount currently available on aliexpress and you’re down to 45

For keycaps do I need sets with a 7u spacebar or 6.25u?

[dry rune]

Umm so which gateron switches

do you recommend

are these the right ones?

[tropic urchin]

Jade pros id say if you dont care about box stems

maxes arent it

[tropic urchin]

those are the OG jades, you want one with the greenish upper housing tints

[dry rune]

these ones?

[tropic urchin]

yeah Id go between those and the RAWs for which you want

[dry rune]

So should I buy like 70 for the 60he

[quick beacon]

yes

[dry rune]

Always a couple of spare ones

[quick beacon]

thats what I did

[tropic urchin]

90 is for 80s so 70 should be good

[marble sierra]

Watch a video on comparison and pick which ones you like between geon raws and the jades

[dry rune]

im also thinking of buying the tofu60 case

[tidal frigate]

It is most people are taking that case

[dry rune]

I think with the jade pros and tofu60 it will sound alot better than now

its completely original rn

But I just can't choose what color I pick for the tofu case because idk what keycaps I wanna get XD

[tidal frigate]

Thats worst

[flat cobalt]

I own the meteorite gray and it looks nice because it has a bit of glitter to it

[quick beacon]

I went

Tofu 60redux in gray
Geon raw switches
and a nice black letters on grey keycaps set

also went with the module so that I have the nicer pc plate instead of the steel one, and screwin stabilizers

[quick beacon]

do you have a pic?

[flat cobalt]

Sadly I don’t have one showing off the glitterish

[steep glacier]

Does anybody know if these switches (Gmmk Glorious Fox HE switches will work with the Wooting 60HE+ ? I got to try them out today and they were actually pretty nice and I wanted to see if they would work on the wooting

[steep glacier]

What are these caps??

[flat cobalt]

https://www.keytok.com/products/kop-the-wandering-earth-ii

[stone flax]

prototypist

deltakeyco

kbdfans

aliexpress kbdfans

taobao

[dry rune]

ohh

[dry rune]

Ty! But I will probably order the gateron jade pros instead

[fallen pecan]

they do not

[stone flax]

geon

raw

he

GEON
RAW
HE

[dry rune]

why

[stone flax]

better

[dry rune]

which way

[steep glacier]

Thank you

[dry rune]

@stone flax

[stone flax]

do you use rgb

[dry rune]

Yeah

or I mean I use tachyon mode or whatever that disables the "rgb" effects but yeah

[steep glacier]

Geon Raw HE over Jade Max or anything else available?

[flat cobalt]

Jade Pros

Above the 2 you just named

[autumn creek]

What are the best sounding switches that are compatible with the 80he

[tidal frigate]

You know it is preference.

But choose between lekkers , geon raws he and jades

[autumn creek]

What are the best brands

Oh, thanks

[tidal frigate]

@autumn creek do you have prebuilt?

[autumn creek]

No I was thinking on custom

[steep glacier]

if I could change one thing from my order it would be to order it barebones and pick my switches and such, but I ordered before the PC plate replacement and the jades came out

[tidal frigate]

@autumn creek then watch sound test

[autumn creek]

That’s what im going to do. I want the rooting for adjustable actuation?

“Wooting”

[autumn creek]

Is there a good video

[glacial wind]

It’s just raw he or jade pro (or ttc magneto only if you don’t hate high pitched clack)

Raw he and Jade pro essentially close enough that pick whichever you prefer of the two for sound

[stone flax]

raw he or jade pro

[tidal frigate]

https://youtu.be/LKID0ORh1xk?si=gsVxvnfc5Wi1Sr8C

[prime orbit]

tx ap stabs vs knights v2. which should i do

[glacial wind]

Knight v2 of those 2

[prime orbit]

anything better i should consider?

[sacred elm]

honestly all videos are dogshit, ordering 10pc of each (geon raws and jade pros) is the way to see which you like the most

[glacial wind]

No, I wouldn’t buy either personally

unless you specifically just wanted new stabs you’re throwing away money

[prime orbit]

ye i just want new ones

[glacial wind]

You can look at typeplus too

[prime orbit]

getting a new pc plate so might as well

[glacial wind]

since I know you won’t listen anyway just buy typeplus or knight v2

[prime orbit]

?????

[glacial wind]

They’re the 2 priciest I think so just as well waste as much as possible

[sacred elm]

[prime orbit]

hatin on me for no reason

sadge

[glacial wind]

Another day, another person buying stabs they don’t need for no reason

The world continues as it has always been

[prime orbit]

my fault for wanting to mod my keyboard

[glacial wind]

let’s be real you’re buying because somewhere inside you believe they’re better and will improve your keyboard

not because you just wanted new stabs

[prime orbit]

the wont tho

literally nothing can improve performance

LMAO

[glacial wind]

Then you wouldn’t ask “anything better”

[prime orbit]

There is always better

to everything

[glacial wind]

Except that’s just not how stabs work really

[tidal frigate]

Cant wait for more 80he cases

[honest nacelle]

You want best? Find the norbauer stabs

[prime orbit]

if only they were out

[honest nacelle]

Ah him

Ask*

[prime orbit]

him?

[glacial wind]

Meanwhile the actual keyboard people have half of them just buying cherry clip ins and using those still lol

[prime orbit]

true

i also just want to get some new screw in stabs

but if im being a moron for that

i wont

[glacial wind]

Just buy them, it will satisfy your curiosity then next time you’ll realize stabs are just stabs

[honest nacelle]

Spending money for spending's sake automatically makes it too late for that

[glacial wind]

Any half decent stab is a good stab with proper tuning

[prime orbit]

yes but not in my case/ pretty sure when i cracked my pc plate i also messed up one of my stabs

at least i think

idk

could just be the plate that im feeling is off

[flat cobalt]

Did you call

[honest nacelle]

U looking to get the norbauer stabs

[flat cobalt]

https://cannonkeys.com/products/aeboards-staebies

I got these

[prime orbit]

look dope

[flat cobalt]

Don’t give me bad news please Sno

[glacial wind]

Stabies is risky business for people who buy cheap keycaps

[flat cobalt]

Oh ok good good lol

[stone flax]

i buy knights because i want to

problem?

[glacial wind]

Long as you don’t have cheap keycaps you’re okay though

[flat cobalt]

I’m gonna use them with my Cosmos

And the Black Snail

[glacial wind]

So do I, although I need to try typeplus still

Staebies have absurdly tight wire tolerances to the point where any minor warping makes keycaps sluggish

it’s why not everyone loves them (outside of the price)

[flat cobalt]

I think the Atomic Purple keycaps are gonna go on sell in Q1 of 2025

[stone flax]

i got some on my list

paigus mainly

i see them pop up for a buck

lol

[glacial wind]

I’m still waiting for someone to try those random pbtfans blanks that claim to have glass or whatever inside

[flat cobalt]

The Salvun artisan looks nice too

[polar girder]

Ofc

[polar girder]

lol. Don’t tempt me

[prime orbit]

when they comin

[polar girder]

Idk probably years

[prime orbit]

W

[glacial wind]

they’re so cheap. Even I’m tempted to try them out over the poor quality $10 Ali caps I have on my 60he+ lol

$40 or like $30-35 with coupons

[polar girder]

1.3mm so thin bro

Yeah idk. They might be ok but not going to give soft sound I want o think

[glacial wind]

I am curious about that thickness, why did they pick 1.3mm

[flat cobalt]

Wait his boards go for how much

[prime orbit]

These?

[glacial wind]

Yeah

[prime orbit]

Looks cool

[flat cobalt]

wtf 3,500$

[glacial wind]

Them picking 1.3mm is a bit weird though because their usual keycaps are 1.6 or whatever

I think maybe they decided on 1.3mm for all their keycaps with whatever this new pbt blend is, which is odd

[chilly mural]

Yep, this looks like a keyboard

[stone flax]

thin ass blanks

😭

boringo

[stone flax]

or theyre just copping some shit keyreative blanks

which is more likely

[tidal frigate]

Because of his stabs

[stone flax]

oh hey

26 dollars

for a full set

[flat cobalt]

Then how much are the stabs alone?

[prime orbit]

But does it have glass infused

[tidal frigate]

You cant buy it alone

[flat cobalt]

“World's first dual-color product featuring internal UV printing”

[glacial wind]

Keyreative is even thinner than 1.3mm if I recall lol

[prime orbit]

The thickness of the keycap would affect sound and feel right?

[devout totem]

Left to right: Jade Max, Jade Pro, Geon Raw, TTC RGB, muted TTC RGB, L60v2, L60v1
Two HE with 4mm poron foam between plate and pcb

[sacred elm]

what the hell is that muted ttc 🤮

[devout totem]

Muted TTC has 0.5mm poron at the bottom of the stem well

[sacred elm]

that sounds atrocious

[polar girder]

Yeah gross

[devout totem]

Perhaps others might prefer no clack or thock

[static tendon]

In the #📣│announcements channel, the Optimum case is mentioned to be a limited run. Do we know how many batches will happen and what batch we are currently on? I would like to get it sometime within this month or next but want to make sure I am within the timeframe

[twin magnet]

Really nice keycaps. I have them on my build too!

[gaunt plume]

Does anyone know of a manufacturer by the name of Shenzhen Jiang Wan Digital Technology? I've looked into it, but I'm not sure.

[uneven cradle]

Not really any timeline just when it stops selling well it will be pulled no set date for that

[signal ridge]

What does the glass do

[flat cobalt]

Probably makes it look pretty

[glacial wind]

The $24 for 90 jade pros be real

[jaunty ruin]

yo what

[glacial wind]

decent factory lube honestly in this batch. Could be spread a bit better but both the inside stem and outside rails had lube on them

[jaunty ruin]

where u get 90 jade pros for 24$

i paid 54 2 times (ordered og jades accidentally) for 90 jade pros

[glacial wind]

it was black friday coupon stack, not available anymore

20%-30% base discount + coupons

[sacred elm]

i think factory lube is better on raws, if you press jade pros on the sides slowly they arent as smooth as raws

but whatever

[glacial wind]

yeah raws geon went back in and fine tuned it even more

but i'd probably still spread the lube out myself if I was picky

[sacred elm]

its not noticeable at all unless you press sides very slowly

[glacial wind]

for most folks i think though the factory lube on both is good enough

[sacred elm]

otherwise its very smooth

[glacial wind]

interesting i didn't know keypro was a bgkypro store

[sacred elm]

i might lube them too to make them smoother even when pressed on sides

[signal ridge]

I bought the jade pros too, do i need to change the stabs

[sacred elm]

no

[glacial wind]

jade pros came from bgkypro box lol

[sacred elm]

it wasnt in gateron jar?

[glacial wind]

nah it's typical reseller stuff where they ordered bulk and repackaged it

[sacred elm]

ah

you like them or havent tested in keyboard yet?

[chilly mural]

dammmm

[glacial wind]

i mean they feel the same as the one jade pro i already had so not really going to test them outside of making soundtest for the website later

i think my 10 gateron jade gaming arrive tomorrow, that's the one i'm more curious to check out to compare the smoothness vs the magneto pom

[dry rune]

So why is geon raw better than jade pros people keep telling me to get geon raws instead

I have never modded a keyboard and my knowledge is 0

[fluid ravine]

💸

It's much cheaper

[dry rune]

Bruh

They also said something about rbg

[jaunty ruin]

not even tbh

[dry rune]

Rgb

[jaunty ruin]

i paid more for my geon raws than i did for my jade pros

[glacial wind]

tl;dr is geon raw he and jade pro are functionally almost the same as far as feel and performance and their only real differences is a slight pitch difference and pricing

[fluid ravine]

Fr?

[jaunty ruin]

mhm

[fluid ravine]

How much you paid

[glacial wind]

yeah but yours is an exception to be fair

[jaunty ruin]

almost 100$ including the customs

[glacial wind]

he probably bought direct via geon and got hit by customs etc

[fluid ravine]

gah damn

[jaunty ruin]

mhm

[fluid ravine]

mine dont even come close

[dry rune]

There's not even a real proce difference or is there an eu store that sells the geon raw

For cheap

[fluid ravine]

mine cost like a quarter

[jaunty ruin]

thats insane

[glacial wind]

delta key, although they might be sold out

[jaunty ruin]

yeah im just out here being stupid and getting scammed left and right

[fluid ravine]

rip

unlucky man

[sacred elm]

its not. they are just cheaper

[glacial wind]

there's roughly a 20% price difference unless you find the jade pros on sale (assuming you buy both from aliexpress)

[dry rune]

Only a fraction and I could get the jade pros shipped much quicker

[glacial wind]

where are you ordering from?

[dry rune]

Maxgaming

[sacred elm]

yea get jade pros

[glacial wind]

oh no wonder

yeah max gaming pricing is going to be very different

[dry rune]

They don't even have geon raws

[glacial wind]

it's probably faster and not much different because they're ripping you off on pricing lol

yeah geon raws you'd be buying from delta key or aliexpress

they get stock every month or two https://deltakeyco.com/products/geon-raw-he-switch

[dry rune]

Sold out

[slate fox]

or ali express KBD seller

[glacial wind]

jesus max gaming charge .90 cents a switch?

[dry rune]

Yea

[sacred elm]

maxgaming is dogshit

[glacial wind]

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005007782574456.html

[dry rune]

Their customer service seems a bit off

[sacred elm]

order from aliexpress, maxgaming is just scamming

[slate fox]

lol was about to send that

[fluid ravine]

oh shi by how much

[glacial wind]

aliexpress includes taxes to eu iirc

[dry rune]

What does the gf mean on the switches

[glacial wind]

he was about to pay .90 cents a switch lol

[fluid ravine]

AH HELL NAH

[sacred elm]

spring weight

[fluid ravine]

gram force, it's spring weight like shafie said

[glacial wind]

that's how hard it is to press in. 40gf being lightest, 60 being heaviest and closer to cherry mx for example

[dry rune]

So 50 is probably good

[glacial wind]

yeah most go 50g

[fluid ravine]

the sweet spot

and safest choice

[dry rune]

Ehh I mean it's only 13€ difference

Even when max is charging 90 cents per switch

So like idk

[sacred elm]

get jade pros, bottoming out feels better imo

[glacial wind]

yeah but what we're explaining is performance wise they're functionally the same thing

[sacred elm]

it feels so nice to type on jade pros

[glacial wind]

just watch some videos and pick the switch you prefer the sound of and ignore everyone telling you raw vs jade is better

[dry rune]

But i would get the jade pros shipped much quicker too

[sacred elm]

or just order them both 10pc each

[dry rune]

Sound literally the same

[sacred elm]

to compare

[glacial wind]

i mean just buy jade pros then if you can't wait 1 week longer lol

we're not here to convince you to save money

[sacred elm]

in videos sure

[dry rune]

Hmm

[glacial wind]

just buy whatever, they're both fine switches. If you want to spend an extra $13 to get switches earlier go for it

[sacred elm]

im not watching any soundtests anymore its so misleading

[dry rune]

Maybe i'll buy the raws then

13€ is 13€

[marble sierra]

In honesty it's personal preference between both keys

[fluid ravine]

fr

[glacial wind]

yeah people will shout whatever preference they have in here at you, but realistically they both perform, feel and sound very similar and neither option is the wrong choice

[dry rune]

idc about peoples opinions that much since I know they will sound alot better than the stock 60he switches XD

[marble sierra]

Do what you feel is best, doesn't phase me if you even went half Jade's and Half RAWs on your board as I'm not using it 😂

[sacred elm]

v1 lekkers 🤮

[dry rune]

Also the plastic caseee

I'm ordering a tofu60

But I can't decide what color

[fluid ravine]

STM lekkers v1

[dry rune]

If i want to replace the keycaps too

The stock ones are kinda nice too tbh

[marble sierra]

https://a.aliexpress.com/_Ewlqxti

[flat cobalt]

The Raw HE sound nasty on the sound videos compared to the Pro though

[marble sierra]

If I had the 60 I'd probs use this

[glacial wind]

stop confusing him lol

[flat cobalt]

[glacial wind]

you guys and your obsession over minor sound differences just going to make new people confused as hell

[flat cobalt]

Nah they’re both cool, I’m just a simp for the jades lol

I’d get the more affordable ones for sure between those 2

[sacred elm]

well they asked opinion

[glacial wind]

new folks can't separate the half joking sound talk and real

[sacred elm]

only real talk in keyboard modding

[fluid ravine]

Oh fr, don't remember talking real all the time in this chat

[sacred elm]

honestly order some muted ttc rgb from mr civster they do sound so good

[fluid ravine]

i type in paragraphs when im talking real talk

[glacial wind]

what i'm confused at is why the same courier received both my jade pros and jade gaming at same time at same depot but decided to only deliver the jade pros today

[sacred elm]

https://tenor.com/view/side-eye-dog-suspicious-look-suspicious-doubt-dog-doubt-gif-23680990

[glacial wind]

just ran out of room for 1 small pack of switches for today apparently

[marble sierra]

Nah they just hate you and will deliver the next set in a week 🤣

[sacred elm]

he delivered only real switches

jade gaming isnt real

[glacial wind]

every day I look at retro mixed lights dark set and have to convince myself not to buy them for the 60he+ that only gets used for sound tests

[marble sierra]

@glacial wind What is your current set of switches you use btw?

[glacial wind]

ttc magneto pom for the 80he

i think i have raws still in the 60he+

[marble sierra]

Gonna look at these now, you used them for awhile?

[glacial wind]

for a week or so yeah

[sacred elm]

they are interesting until you see the price

[glacial wind]

the sound is very high pitched and sharp clack though so it's not for everyone. They are the most stable switches i've ever had though and the pom version with lube is very smooth

that's why i don't generally recommend them first to people, especially when you remember that without coupons/sale they're like $1 a switch

[flat cobalt]

Jesus

[polar girder]

That’s tempting AF tho

Most stable and very smooth

Fk

[glacial wind]

the sound though... acquired taste lol

if you used these at work for example you would 100% last an hour before people come up to you and throw your keyboard out

[sacred elm]

sno have you seen mr civster version of ttc rgb

[glacial wind]

yeah i saw

[sacred elm]

[glacial wind]

those types of mods not for me honestly. As much as I like to mess around with different things I never really do the mods that don't really have a real usage difference for me

i do wonder when someone will do a full silent switch though

[sacred elm]

jade silent

lol

[flat cobalt]

Jade Silent Pro

[sacred elm]

those drunkdeer raesha silent switches are pretty silent, not compatible tho

but they seem to be cool

[glacial wind]

even those are still a bit noisy compared to top tier silent switches

[sacred elm]

yea

[glacial wind]

but i don't even know how doable the full silent switches are on he or if there's much of a market out there for them

[paper bloom]

There are some ways to make it quiet

But it might affect the magnet

[glacial wind]

yeah that's what I mean, a lot of the ways to make it more quiet might impact sensitivity or accuracy

[paper bloom]

I c

But then again modding the shit iut of it

Out*

Will take a lot of testing

Esp the clean up

[glacial wind]

i mean more a stock silent switch

not modding

[paper bloom]

Oh

O well either way lets hope the HE

Market can do somethin about it

Else ig ill think of some modding methods

And tryem out

[knotty iron]

We arent talking about the Genty switches right

[sacred elm]

that was a joke

[knotty iron]

Oh nvm

Silent HE switches 🤣

[honest nacelle]

Aside from tolerance, the sensitivity and accuracy are decided almost entirely by the sensor

[glacial wind]

I mean more the bouncing caused by some solutions

And putting random things inside the stem that change the bottom out distance

[honest nacelle]

Any and all solutions that silence the bottom out will cause bouncing since it's either silicone or poron/rubber causing the dampening

And changing bottom out dist still doesn't affect the accuracy or sensitivity

[glacial wind]

yeah that's what I mean though... i'm confused at what your point is unless you're just adding on

[tawdry tree]

Just need an adjustable effective range of RT, so any bounce caused won’t be an issue. Should’ve had that a long time ago already.

Calder said the bounce of TTC’s stem at top out could cause an unwanted actuation which would be really annoying, even if it only happens once a year.

😂

[split dagger]

Anyone know a US retailer for the Geon Raw He

[glacial wind]

divinikey, but they're waiting on next batch to arrive after they sold out during black friday

[split dagger]

Damm alr

I need to get some and a black pom plate for the 60he

[glacial wind]

you could just order from kdbfans on aliexpress if you're not in a rush

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005007782574456.html

[split dagger]

I probably will just do that

[random hull]

having a pretty tough time fitting the 80he top cover to fit properly on the bottom end anytime i put in the foam or attempt to put the polyfil in there

[tropic urchin]

you might have to put a thinner layer down if its not fitting @random hull

[random hull]

yeah, even with the foam it came with, sometimes i dont get it to allign properly with the case though

and im not too sure what im doing wrong

[delicate valley]

Hey everyone, I'm looking to get some info regarding modding the Wooting Two HE with Everglide Sticky Rice (V2) Hall Effect Switches. I see the travel is a bit shorter than the stock switches, and worried about potential inconsistencies with the space bar/shift, etc. I see people asking about these switches already in the history, but can't find any follow up.

I'm curious if anyone got their hands on these and how they are performing for them.

[random hull]

i guess i cant get it to grab into the bottom hooks of the case

[abstract kernel]

is geon.works not shipping to the US? https://geon.works/products/geon-raw-he-switch

i'm pretty sure they do

[glacial wind]

he's probably trying to avoid paying the huge shipping fee

[random hull]

got this right now, its a pretty thin layer, it might look thicker than it actually is

assuming i want to cover the entire case, if i start spreading it out i get open spots

[spice apex]

if the inside of the case rises in some places you’ll need open spots near those bump ups

[random hull]

hmm its kind of hard to tell where it does that though

but i guess i can try to lose some

[spice apex]

is that polyfil

[random hull]

yeah

[cedar kernel]

Ze keeb has arrived

[tropic urchin]

It looks a little thick so may just be the photo, but maybe try removing the edges around the entire thing so you take out a thin rectangle of it

Hopefully it lets you fit everything

[random hull]

its such a pain to cover it all but still be able to get the pcb in lol

ill keep trying

[tropic urchin]

I’d also remove more towards the JST connector that way you aren’t smothering it

[random hull]

okay will do

do you have anything around it at all, the connector

[tropic urchin]

I only used stock foam

There’s already a lot of dampening happening for the 80HE already so I just went stock with mine without adding anything else

[random hull]

alright

[tropic urchin]

You wanna give it a decent amount of room to work with

That way connecting it isn’t a pain in the ass and it’s given some space

[spice apex]

do wootings normally arrive earlier than the batch estimated

[random hull]

expect it later if anything

[random hull]

yeah fair enough

[spice apex]

mine seems to be finishing up really fast for some reason

[random hull]

might be lucky on what you selected then

[tropic urchin]

Sometimes you get lucky and they have your order as extra stock at the warehouse

If others didn’t want so you get to cut the line a bit

[random hull]

suppose they are bound to catch up on orders eventually and not everything has to be preordered

[spice apex]

i ordered an he+ module on december 5th and it’s already been made and being shipped to the warehouse

[tropic urchin]

Ah you got the 60HE+, makes sense

[random hull]

does the 80he zinc top click into the bottom, assembled it but felt it still wasnt completely tight unto it

[glacial wind]

It hooks but doesn’t click

Then the screws tighten it up

[left depot]

maybe this helps https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LNa5wuqiFVY&t=7s&ab_channel=Wooting

[random hull]

thanks, yeah i was looking at that, even when i had the foam pad under it, sometimes the pcb would remain slightly lifted on the left side. some pressure puts it in its place but it stops the top cover from getting properly on it i guess. ill keep at it

[spice apex]

always be grateful it isn’t an nk87

[tropic urchin]

I’d try removing more from that side and eventually it should play nice and let you screw it back together

[random hull]

yeah i got quite a bunch out already, its still the polyfil being a problem here lol

[tropic urchin]

You could try flattening it and hopefully it stays

Since it still looks a little cotton bally from the last pic

[random hull]

yeah ive done a lot since, theres almost nothing left you can look right through it

[green wind]

Do any of these mods void the warranty on the 80HE module?

mods:
tape mod
Lube switches
Lube stabilizers
Add sorbothane foam inside the case
Case swap later down the line

[spice apex]

no to all of those

[green wind]

Yea I got the answer in general thanks tho, but what other mods should I consider?

[spice apex]

warranty would be voided if the case, pcb, or original plate are tampered with (filed down stabs for example ) or damaged

[spice apex]

honestly not much else you can do

you can get a c3 equalz stabilizer companion kit

it’s basically a bandaid mod, holee mod, and spacebar foam

[green wind]

Oh damn ok

[spice apex]

it’s like $2 usd

[green wind]

Ima save that

I saw some ppl get new stabilizers

Wyt of that

[spice apex]

im don’t have my wooting yet but im trying to figure out what replacements work

im a really big fan of c3 equalz stabs but i cant find anything that says they work well

[green wind]

I saw a vid on it but the ones he recommended were sold out

[spice apex]

what ones were those?

[green wind]

Don’t think they were c3 tho

[green wind]

No idea

Sold out so I don’t remember

[green wind]

Mines still in transit

[spice apex]

the only other stabs i can think of trying are tx ap and gateron

[tropic urchin]

Don’t need new ones, but I got new ones to make it more ✨custom✨

And clear housing and gold wire is

[green wind]

Yea it’s my first custom keyboard so I’m tryna go all out

[spice apex]

i think i heard staebies work, but ive never used them so i dont have an opinion on them

[green wind]

Except the case, I’m waiting till 3rd party cases come out the alloy one too expensive

[tropic urchin]

So far earliest is going to be May 2025 for KBDfans

[spice apex]

i got a tofu60 redux with the meteoric gray

it should be delivered today actually

[green wind]

My keyboard rn is a huntsman TE modded with foam only so it’s a big jump

[spice apex]

im gonna start lubing my jades tonight hopefully

[tropic urchin]

As a former huntsman owner rip

[green wind]

The 80he don’t got 3rd party cases yet

[tropic urchin]

👀

[green wind]

Lowkey wasn’t bad for performance but now I want to improve the sound and feel more

I got it to sound decent rn but not enough 😤

[tropic urchin]

Performance wasn’t bad, but the switch feel and key caps were kinda mid

[green wind]

I swapped out the keycaps but the stabilizers acc sucked snd switches too

[tropic urchin]

But then you also have to deal with synapse which I’m ready to not have to deal with anymore

[green wind]

They optical so I added orings to fix the bottom out

[tropic urchin]

Damn you went hard in the paint

Respect

[green wind]

I acc like synapse

I got the whole ecosystem

[green wind]

❔

[tropic urchin]

It’s gotten better for sure

[tropic urchin]

‘Went all out’ on making the huntsman sound better*

[quick beacon]

synapse is the reason im never buying something from that company ever again

[green wind]

Oh shi nah I coulda done so much more, but I get Wym now lmao

[green wind]

Why does everyone hate on it, I don’t get it

I’ve had no issues

[quick beacon]

if a kb requires software to change basic settings i dont want it

[green wind]

Ah

[tropic urchin]

If you’re using the old non beta version I had to give it admin privileges for it to even open properly which made me very annoyed

[green wind]

I only ever used synapse 3 not beta

So fair play

[tropic urchin]

Yeah synapse 3 is not it

Or wasn’t it for a while*

[green wind]

Better than g hub atleast

[tropic urchin]

Could be worse, could also be a lot better

[green wind]

Or corsair

That was terrible

[green wind]

Yea 100% coulda be better

[tropic urchin]

Synapse 3 is about on par with icue for me

[green wind]

Nah I had I cue for a week and sold my headset

Annoying af

Even my ram n aio make me pissed with icue

[tropic urchin]

I had a Corsair mouse before I switched and it never remembered my profiles which made me annoyed, but atleast it ran without needing admin priv 😭

Beta makes it smoother and not janky, but the ptsd is still there for me

[green wind]

Is the wooting software an app or just website?

[left depot]

both

[tropic urchin]

Chrome browser or desktop

I use desktop and it’s very minimal

[green wind]

Hmm okok are they still in beta or alpha or acc released on desktop

[spice apex]

unfortunate 😔

i would get an 80he because i honestly can’t use 60%s comfortably for most things

but i’m only using it for gaming to its fine

like using a 60% keyboard on CAD is awful

unless you have layers i guess

[tropic urchin]

60% is a little small which is why I didn’t go with 60HE over Rog Azoth 😭

But HE TKL is absolute peak

[green wind]

I wish the 80he was tkl

That would be perfect

[tropic urchin]

Close enough

[green wind]

Nah

[sacred elm]

it does

[green wind]

It’s 77% or some

Not enough

[tropic urchin]

My other one was 75%, so I’ll take it

[green wind]

Where, I couldn’t find any??

[sacred elm]

https://kbdfans.com/products/gt-80-case?variant=42879942492299

[green wind]

Damn also a preorder

[random hull]

removed the polyfil now, cant really get the pcb to fall into place properly unless i remove everything including foam. not sure if its an issue if i attach the case when theres a slight gap on the left side like this

[green wind]

So expensive

[random hull]

just doesnt really fall into place with the foam in, i dont know why

[sacred elm]

almost same as wootings zinc alloy

[green wind]

Yea but that’s also too expensive

I’m in Canada

So multiply it by 1.4

Pricey

[tropic urchin]

Metal is always going to be more expensive, and Canada doesn’t want you to be happy which is an unfortunate combo

[green wind]

Fr, Canada such an L

I wanna go back to UAE

[sacred elm]

move

[green wind]

No tax :)

Or atleast very little now

[tropic urchin]

I’ll be praying for you and @tulip rapids

[green wind]

I’m still in uni

Just finished my 3rd year fall sem

Legit just finished my last exam an hour ago

Afterwards tho, ima try to move

[green wind]

Much appreciated

[random hull]

did i go too far with my tape mod? i honestly dont know what it is lol

[spice apex]

i want that pine green so bad

why did you have to share with the class

[spice apex]

how many layers did you use

[random hull]

3

[spice apex]

that should be fine

[random hull]

the moment the foam is in there it just doesnt lay flush anymore and i cant get the top case back on properly anymore

i remove the foam, all is fine

just weird

[spice apex]

you’re probably just going to need to remove the foam

i have a keyboard with the same problem

it goes together perfectly fine until foam gets involved

[random hull]

thing is this foam was stock

so the tape mod must have done something

[spice apex]

maybe your tape is too thick then

or maybe you don’t have holes poked through it?

[random hull]

i didnt do any holes no

[spice apex]

there are holes in the bottom case that go through the pcb to attach to the case right?

take a toothpick and poke holes where those holes are in the pcb

[random hull]

no just around it

[spice apex]

oh

well that’s weird

is the tape only on the pcb?

[random hull]

yeah

[spice apex]

if it was me i’d try putting the pcb in and press down on it equally and see if there was tape blocking something from going in place

but that could damage the pcb

[reef oar]

3 layers is crazy

[random hull]

is it, hmm

iirc people in here said it would work

[random hull]

hmm how many layers would you suggest i do then

[reef oar]

1 should be fine, that's the norm

[random hull]

its 80HE btw, if it matters

okay

its like this

[reef oar]

oh 80

[tropic urchin]

3 layers should be fine, I wonder if the crease ridge lines are what’s giving you trouble

I’d try comparing it to how sander’s looked in his video

I was going to do it too, but got lazy last min and just slapped the PET film back on

[random hull]

i kinda had it running as i did thius

i just dont know where i messed up

[reef oar]

yeah, i mean 3 should be good but it's diminishing returns and clearly bringing up problems

[random hull]

hios

his*

[reef oar]

i'd assume since it's 3 layers, it's a little thick in a contact point and it's causing an uneven balance

[random hull]

i will get rid of one then

removed it all, ill start over later and do 2 layers then

[reef oar]

i was gonna get ws dashes but found out they're just a recolour of jades, then i was gonna get jade maxes but found out people didn't really like them and that the pros were better, so i've ordered jade pros

all roads lead to jade pros somehow

it's inevitable

[sacred elm]

welcome to the club

[jaunty latch]

My jade pros have arrived! Just a quick question, am I okay to pull the switches out with the plate still attached to the pcb? Only reason I ask is the first one seemed pretty difficult to get out?

@tropic urchin sorry to tag you again, but could I have your advice please?

[sacred elm]

yes, but lekkers are pretty difficult to pull out so good luck

[jaunty latch]

So just be careful and patient I assume?

[sacred elm]

wiggle the switch and pull, you will need some force but dont worry, you wont damage keyboard

[jaunty latch]

Okay cool, thank you man!

[sacred elm]

jade pros are a lot easier to pull

[calm pulsar]

geon hmx switches arrived

[jaunty latch]

Yeah these lekkers are being stubborn bastards! Snapped one already 🤦🏼‍♂️

Just job I’m not reusing them

[sacred elm]

geon what 💀

[calm pulsar]

geon extreme gaming mechanical switches, they are made by hmx

[tropic urchin]

It was a PAIN without the Wuque studio switch puller that I got recommended. If it’s too much, I’d expose the plate which will make it a lot easier to take out

[tropic urchin]

Inc box stem for best gaming experience

Sponsored by ASUS

[calm pulsar]

xd

no these are standard

but now I need to wait like 3 months for new case for my mx build 😄

[tropic urchin]

I’m almost done lubing my F keys

[jaunty latch]

I’m part of the way through so it’s all good, I have a switch puller but it’s just a generic one off Amazon.

Seems to be the top and bottom rows being the most stubborn

[tropic urchin]

I hope you have an easier time than I did

[jaunty latch]

No clue how yours went but me too 😂

[tropic urchin]

I had to take mine apart bc everything was breaking for me and got some legs stuck in the PCB

[sacred elm]

wait its 60he

[jaunty latch]

Mine?

[sacred elm]

it should be way easier than 80he

it was torture on 80he

hope its not the same on 60he+

[jaunty latch]

Ohh fuck that

I’ll double check my pcb when I’m done make sure there’s nothing inside it

[tropic urchin]

I’d also recommend lubing yours if you care about having a marbly sound

If not no harm but something to think about if you like a marbly clack

[jaunty latch]

I like the thoccy sound but I know it’s nigh impossible on a HE, but when my new plate arrives (one that already came was a bust but that’s Ali express sometimes) I’ll probably lube before replacing

Will probably also get some stabiliser lube when I do that too

[dry rune]

Any cheap case for 60he from aliexpress?

[jaunty latch]

What’s your budget?

[dry rune]

cheaper than tofu60

xD

or maybe i'll just buy the tofu it looks nice

and has nice color options

I'm modding my kb for the first time

also probably these caps they look so nice

[spice apex]

is it the small ring one

those ones are agonizing

[jaunty latch]

They’re nice tbf, I have the tofu 60 redux as my first case, wanted a good case then I don’t need to worry in the future

[dry rune]

nvm they're not nordic -_-

[jaunty latch]

No it’s one of these

[dry rune]

fuuuuuckkkkkk

[spice apex]

ah

[jaunty latch]

Idk about other countries but I’m in the UK but prefer ansi so that I have the longer shift

[spice apex]

i have one of those but it’s steel and has a silicone sleeve

[dry rune]

I NEED Ä AND Ö

[spice apex]

best switch puller

[jaunty latch]

Ahh fair enough

[spice apex]

you can use wootility to set those as keys i’m pretty sure

on the iso pcb

[jaunty latch]

I was thinking that tbh

[dry rune]

to where

XD

[spice apex]

whatever keys you don’t regularly use

like \ |

or [ ]

[dry rune]

but that would just make typing so hard

ermmmmmmmmmmm

[spice apex]

do ä and ö replace a and o or are they different

thats a stupid question

forget i asked that

[dry rune]

wait

[jaunty latch]

Could have fn and then whatever the normal key you press for those chars are as your wootility shortcut for them? Might be weird at first and depends how much they’re used?

[spice apex]

true

[dry rune]

hmm

[spice apex]

you could use a layer so FN+A = Ä

[dry rune]

But again that just makes typing slow XD

maybe I'll just get used to it

I mostly know which key does what so like doesn't probably matter if they show differently

the keycaps

[spice apex]

yea i do that on some of my keyboards

[dry rune]

its like that rn

and I mean this layout is so different lol

nvm I just realised the enter and shit wouldn't fit -_-

[spice apex]

oh man that’s tough

[dry rune]

fuuckkk

[tropic urchin]

I finished lubing my jade pros

now I just need to wait a couple days for it to break in again

[spice apex]

how do they sound in your keeb

[dry rune]

I just finished lubing myself

[spice apex]

and are you using the default case and stuff?

[tulip rapids]

fr

[tulip rapids]

yup its fucking shite

[tropic urchin]

how you enjoying your keeb

[tulip rapids]

loving it

40g is too light for my liking though

ima buy heavier springs later

probably 50g or 60g

[tropic urchin]

I just finished my keyboard lube maintenance and I am a free man again

https://tenor.com/view/freedom-free-i’m-free-jungkook-jk-gif-4031421026425443041

[jaunty latch]

Just finished putting mine back together, and ohh my god it sounds soo good and creamy! I’ll post a vid later on, thanks for all the help and advice 👌🏼

[tropic urchin]

glad you like them as much as I do

[sacred elm]

jade pro 😎

[jaunty latch]

Please send me a vid of yours once it’s broken in as I’d love to compare to standard manufactured lubing

[jaunty latch]

You know it boi 😎

[tropic urchin]

I'll send you a DM once it settles in a bit

but mine will sound a bit different from yours due to plate/silicone gasket mount and case material from 80HE to 60

[jaunty latch]

Ahh yeah true, still send it though please!

[sacred elm]

it should be way louder on 60he

[tropic urchin]

Mine currently is a marbly clack experience and Im pretty happy with the end product

[sacred elm]

compared to 80he

[jaunty latch]

Do I need to do anything on wootility since these bottom out at 3.5 instead of 4?

Or is that a none issue

[chilly mural]

You're fine

[tropic urchin]

think it should update automatically

[sacred elm]

no

[tropic urchin]

but am wootility novice

[sacred elm]

it auto calibrates

for now*

[jaunty latch]

Ahh okay cool! Not turned my pc on yet as missus is sat in my chair so not had chance to look

[sacred elm]

later they will add switch selector

[jaunty latch]

That’s cool

I’m sat on the spare bed (set up is in spare room) to change my switches and she walks in and sits watching me but in my chair 🤦🏼‍♂️

[autumn creek]

Are there any Good cases that fit the 80he

Not the wooting ones

[sacred elm]

https://kbdfans.com/products/gt-80-case?variant=42879942492299

[autumn creek]

Yeah but it hasn’t come out yet

Is there any other one

[sacred elm]

its pre order, batch 1 is sold out already

[autumn creek]

Also am I going to be waiting 1-2 months or like 5-6

[sacred elm]

no clue about other cases

[wispy hazel]

#pixlr

soon L45 v2 + switch plate switch 😍

[autumn creek]

So it’s pre order for a new batch

[sacred elm]

yes

[autumn creek]

Got it thanks you

[random hull]

bleh, even with the previous tape mod removed, now the 2 layer, the pcb just sits lifted and i can not get it flush in the case. i dont get it (80he)

[spice apex]

give up and carve your own case out of a block of wood

[random hull]

its barely anything. at this point i feel like it wouldnt be flush in the case even if i removed it all again

[spice apex]

i believe in you

[delicate valley]

Aye, is 3.5mm switches good to go with the Wooting Two HE? Worried about space bar and shift for example. Does it also work with the snaptap?

[sacred elm]

yes

[tropic urchin]

I’m curious now, @random hull try removing the tape and putting the PET film back on. Does it fit normally connected with the JST cable?

[sacred elm]

do you still have pillow inside your case

[delicate valley]

No problems with the 4.0mm spacebar stems, etc?

[random hull]

will try, hope it still sticks

[sacred elm]

unlikely

[tropic urchin]

It’s pretty sticky you should be fine

[sacred elm]

3.5mm switches work fine with stock stabilizers

[delicate valley]

Good to know, thanks for the heads up.

Before I make a potential mistake, what's the overall thoughts on Evervlide sticky rice v2? Just to make sure, they're linear, yeah?

[celest violet]

what are some good switched for the wotting 60he+??

[delicate valley]

(First time modding any keyboard ever)

[sacred elm]

there are better options

[sacred elm]

jade pro / geon raw

[delicate valley]

I'm attracted to this kind of keycap (not sure the name) because I cannot stand that feel of a "stem" bend as I press down the keys.

[random hull]

nope

same curve

[sacred elm]

do you mean stem wobble

[spice apex]

i am attracted to this kind of keycap

[sacred elm]

i think both jade pros or geon raws have better stem wobble even tho sticky rice is box stem

not sure tho

but stem wobble is already very minimal on jade pros

[delicate valley]

Not just the wobble as you run your fingers lightly over the keys, I mean when pressing down. For example, I play a lot of FPS games, and use lean with Q and E, if I extend my finger from D to E for example, naturally the key will get pressure pushing it upwards, causing that bend like feel.

[random hull]

for some reason the left side remains lifted

the cable is connected now

if i remove the foam, it will fall into place

[sacred elm]

doesnt happen with jade pros

[tropic urchin]

If it’s still the same, honestly I’d just put the 3 layer back on and have it connected, line it up and try putting the top case on. Then slowly try screwing it in without forcing anything

[random hull]

i did that, but if you approach it that way, then the case remains slightly lifted even if you screw it on

[delicate valley]

Assuming you use the jade pros? Why is this one the go to for you?

[random hull]

there remains this sort of gap

[sacred elm]

but if you want most stable switches without wobble check ttc magneto pob, they are very pricy tho. like 1$ per switch

[tropic urchin]

Do you have pics of it being fully screwed in and lifted, bc I don’t think I’ve seen that yet

[sacred elm]

I like sound and feel of them

[random hull]

i do not, but im gonna first see if theres anyone that has answers to this

[celest violet]

Are those good for gaming too?

[sacred elm]

Yes

performance is equal

[delicate valley]

Wow these are expensive. Assuming they're "HE" comptable keys?

[sacred elm]

yes

[delicate valley]

Definitely got some homework to do. I can't do without full size keyboard, and the magnetic switches have attracted me as of recent now that my keyboard is beginning to fall apart 3 years later.

[celest violet]

@sacred elm are those switched in the wooting store?

[sacred elm]

no

[spice apex]

mechanicalkeyboards has them, kbdfans has them, divinikey has them

i think novelkeys might have them too

[sacred elm]

i would still recommend jade pros over those ttc and sticky rice switches, they sound great and have very minimal stem wobble

[delicate valley]

Wish I could test it out somehow. Because I reside in Canada, though I can get things shipped out, it's hell to get it back and costly.

[sacred elm]

maybe get 10pc to test

[delicate valley]

Also "TTC" is the type of key that has uh.. a frame around the stem, yeah?

[sacred elm]

yes

[celest violet]

oh ok what are good ones that the wooting store has?

[sacred elm]

wooting sells lekker v2, they are fine. also regular jades but they are worse version of jade pros. later they will stock ttc switches and geon raws too. not sure when

[delicate valley]

Huge thanks by the way, you've been a bundle of info.

Mind I poke your brain a tiny bit more?

[sacred elm]

sure

[random hull]

like the foam is slightly lifted to the right of the cable, but i cant really help that one @tropic urchin

cause theres that bump in the case there

but i doubt its that because with the polyfil it happened too

[tropic urchin]

I’d try rearranging the foam, that doesn’t look right

The foam should lay 100% flat in your board

[delicate valley]

Wooting has definitely caught my eye with their boards, but I feel I can easily start to tunnel vision. Looking at competitors, nothing really jumps out outside of the razor huntsman v3. I otherwise hate the key sounds they create, which is funny because I have the v2 linear opticals. Was there any other brands with HE full size I should even look to compare?

[random hull]

i dont think ive had it flat at all yet, theres that bit there in the case that always lifts it up a bit hmm

[tropic urchin]

If you’re able to fix that I think you’re in business

[sacred elm]

no clue about full size from other brands, they are mostly between 60% and 80%

[hidden rapids]

Y’a un français pour me dire c quand le restock du 60he wooting

[delicate valley]

I notice there's little customization options for full size boards, was there anything I could really do to the Wooting Two HE to add more quality to it without destorying the bank?