🔧│keyboard_modding

[kind helm]

nowadays they arent too bad

[little glen]

It‘ll be fine most likely

[celest arch]

I just want the same thing as wootings default, but with the colours from the pictures as an example

[little glen]

You want color keycaps with shine through legends?

[celest arch]

ye?

is that not the whole idea of keycap swaps xd

[little glen]

No

Most keycaps are not shine through

[celest arch]

but thats lame

[stone flax]

some time if its really shit

[little glen]

You‘ll have a hard time finding color options with shine through

[stone flax]

but good keycaps dont fade

[celest arch]

how can u see what to click in the dark lol

[celest arch]

:((

[little glen]

Most people that care about shine through dont care about colored keycaps

[stone flax]

og cherry dyesubs from decades ago without fade

hells yeah

[little glen]

And most people that care about colored keycaps dont care about shine through

[celest arch]

I saaw plenty on amazon tho

[kind helm]

and most people can type without looking at the caps :3

[celest arch]

this is one hell of a trippy image xd

[celest arch]

what do they care about then?

[little glen]

Good colors

[stone flax]

good color matching

[little glen]

Nice combination between legend and keycap

[stone flax]

good legend quality

proper kerning

et

etc

etc

etc

[little glen]

Yep yep

All of the above

Also

Just turn on the lights

[kind helm]

using computer in the dark is bad for your eyes :3

[little glen]

:3

[calm pulsar]

but my gamer keyboard

[little glen]

If your keyboard looks good without rgb you dont need shine through

[kind helm]

that enter is banger

[stone flax]

mictlan

[little glen]

Cant wait for next year where i‘ll swap all this out for new gt-80 case and gmk cosmos

[flat cobalt]

Same

[dapper obsidian]

gt-80 for the 80HE?

quite unlikely to work out with an USB-C port in the centre

[glacial wind]

80he uses a daughterboard

so you can put the usb c port wherever you want as long as the daughterboard fits

[edgy panther]

btw guys once u change the switches

do u need to calibrate?

or its automatic

[glacial wind]

just replug the keyboard

[dapper obsidian]

cable length will probably be an issue

[glacial wind]

it won't be, it comes with a cable

[dapper obsidian]

ah

[glacial wind]

kdbfans isn't going to sell a case for 80he that won't work with 80he

[edgy panther]

i got jades which is 3.5mm bottom, but wootility app my window key is set at 4.0 and it still works?

[glacial wind]

yeah works fine. Just treat 0-4mm as 0-100% instead of the number

[edgy panther]

got it

thanks

[glacial wind]

they'll add a switch selector in future to fix the numbers when you swap switches, but for now you just treat it as 0-100%

[flat cobalt]

[dapper obsidian]

just saw the KBDFans Video. Seems like a cool case idea. Just not sure how it would be a better option to Wootings own case tbh. 😄

[sage flicker]

anyone here use heavy switches? thinking of giving it a go. Gonna buy magneto TTC switches and place super heavy springs to try not bottoming out when typing.

[dapper obsidian]

I guess if you got the module without a case etc. Its a good deal but besides that its kinda weird to get the second case

[dapper obsidian]

whats bad about bottoming out?

😄

[sage flicker]

well. i'm using metal keycaps atm and there is some finger strain when gaming lol

[dapper obsidian]

well I mean if you have heavy keycaps you probably simply even it out with heavier switches

[sage flicker]

just wanted to see how it would feel.

not if it's super heavy 😄

my springs very light atm, 28g

[dapper obsidian]

yeah well it will feel tiring

[sage flicker]

so it's feathery, but the bottom out force still travels to my fingers.

yeah that's the only concern.

[dapper obsidian]

exhausting..whatever the right word would be

[sage flicker]

guess o-rings are my only other option.

[dapper obsidian]

if you have issues now with the "force" travelling to your fingers. Heavy switches will be a nightmare to you surely

[sage flicker]

not if you don't bottom out.

i can't not bottom out, so i thought heavier springs would help that.

[dapper obsidian]

yeah but what kind of compromise is that supposed to be

"not if I dont use my Keyboard properly like normal people would do"

[sage flicker]

i think bottom out/not bottom out is preference. diff styles. I have heard people do both.

wanted to try the other side.;

:D\

[dapper obsidian]

I guess most people simply intuitively bottom out. Why wouldnt it I guess. not bottoming out is kinda...willingly

I have to hard conentrate to not bottom out and I type miles slower

[sage flicker]

what spring force though?

[dapper obsidian]

just V2 L60s

[sage flicker]

i have to concentrate as well, but much lighter springs.

ah

ya, the compromise sucks, but we have no progressive HE springs. 😄

still a very underdeveloped market.

MX standard still kings

[flat cobalt]

Personally I’m not a fan of the wooting cases

[dapper obsidian]

I mean, sure. The KBFans cases usually are damn pretty. No doubt. Especially the black/Gold combo is damn nice. If that is worth the extra money, go ahead ^^

[sacred elm]

Surely an upgrade if you have plastic case

but if you have zinc not really

[dapper obsidian]

well yes. probably also a more reasonable investment then

but yeah me as zinc black owner it would surely need alot of upgrades to be worthy of a purchase ^^

The Zinc case feels really well made

[vague stag]

do you have any good recommendations on a custom mechanical keyboard that is not so budget friendly ($300-450)?

looking for one with many mounting options and that has trimode ISO-standard

[dapper obsidian]

You are probably better off asking in the mechkeys discord

The market changes quite fast nowadays and 300-450$ is obviously something you get a few option subt triple ISO + different mounting styles is probably a bit tougher to find

[vague stag]

I am aiming for the neo75 cu. even if it has gotte good reviews, it seem a bit limited when it comes tot he mounting styles

[ionic breach]

Alexotos discord

[vague stag]

at a pretty good price range

[ionic breach]

He spams content out

Should be a few

[quick plinth]

So here’s a question - the keyboard modding faq page has the list of compatible switches for Wooting, and it just says “no (see notes)” for everglide sticky rice switches. However, my Wooting 60HE+ build has everglide sticky rice switches in it, and it works beautifully. Can someone explain why it’s listed as no? I’m trying to determine whether or not I’m going to build an 80HE

[sacred elm]

sticky rice magnet is too strong

[quick plinth]

But is it? My 60HE+ in terms of feel and sound is up there with some of my nicest boards, and it’s got lubed sticky rice switches

What impact is the magnet strength expected to have?

[little glen]

It can cause issues with the sensors

[sacred elm]

afaik with strong magnet switches, after bottoming out rapid trigger is slightly delayed

[dapper tartan]

Anyone who has recommendations for MT3-profile artisan keycaps? I have a hard time finding MT3 row 1 artisan caps 🥲

[dapper obsidian]

without hearing it I can positivilely say that this is cope

There is no way in hell a 60HE is comparable to the nices boards out there

not even the better designed 80 is

[quick plinth]

You’d be surprised. Thing thocks like a dream

[dapper obsidian]

[quick plinth]

Spent quite a bit of time tuning the stabs and switches

[dapper obsidian]

well yes that what you have to do every time you mod a board

just the sheer way HE Switches are build makes a superior sound to MX kinda impossible

[quick plinth]

Superior and comparable are two different things

[dapper obsidian]

Jade Pros have a somewhat good clacky sound but thock outside of recording is kinda cope

[quick plinth]

And comparable doesn’t mean it needs to have the same sound profile as MX, but it can be as pleasant as a good MX board

[dapper obsidian]

if you like it, thats of course wonderful for you. I just simply doubt that the broad mass would agree with the statement that its up there with other boards

https://youtu.be/NgKJIMyz9kI?t=259

[quick plinth]

The mammoth is a great sounding board

I loved mine aside from the QC issues on the small hardware and the temperamental spacebar

[dapper obsidian]

just drop your sound test of your 60he

I am curious

[quick plinth]

I’ll record one after work

I’m using my Rama U80 in the office this week as it’s off to a new home in France next week

[dapper tartan]

I have the same. I don't notice any issues except for on day 1 with the switch in the 0-key. I swapped it out for another switch (good thing I ordered 100 pcs) and now it's all working fine for as far as i know. I think the tolerances for the sticky rice v1 were not up to par, which caused issues in some cases. They did come out with sticky rice v2 where said issues are supposed to be resolved but as long as I don't encounter any issues with my v1's, I'm not ordering new ones

[quick plinth]

Yeah I haven’t had a single problem with the sticky rice. If I order an 80HE I’ll probably just put the raw60s in it if there’s a known issue with sticky rices. Won’t push my luck

[dapper tartan]

You could go for the v2's then, those are an updated version specifically said issue

[quick plinth]

Variety is the spice of life I suppose

[dapper tartan]

True! You do you, of course. I just wanted you to know there's a safe option now, where you can keep the sound profile of the sticky rice

[quick plinth]

I’ve got 100x each of 15 different MX switches, I don’t see why I shouldn’t do the same with HEs 😂

That sticky rice sound is soooo good though

[dapper obsidian]

thats the good part of hot swap

prevents you from getting fed up in the end

Switch prices sadly kinda exploded in the past few years, tho

[quick plinth]

Yeah I could never be happy with a solder board. I’d mill max it first opportunity if there wasnt another option

[dapper obsidian]

I honestly do not see why Jade Pros are fairly priced for example

[quick plinth]

Milktooth has really fair prices!

I’ve seen a lot of places that charge way more than he does

[dapper obsidian]

Yeah thats the reason I lost interest in my Tofu84 sadly. I wanted ISO as I did not want to lose the Enter....ISO Hot Swap was basically not existend back then. Luckily it got better now

[dapper tartan]

Both good and bad part, imo. I love the options, but that comes with every time I find something, someone tells me something new I get to worry about 😅

[dapper obsidian]

I mean it has Gateron Yellows lubed + filmed so its a nice board in the end but like....I could not really experiment and desoldering is just too painful. Soldering is quick and its ok...but getting it undone without such cool desoldering tools is pain

[quick plinth]

My Minerva was built with the solder PCB by the previous owner which tied up the plate

And I’m running out of hope for archetype to finally do the accessories sale

So I may just invest in the tools to desolder it

[dapper obsidian]

I mean those tools are probably a bit better nowadays

price wise

[quick plinth]

Yeah it’s not terrible tbh. I have a soldering iron, I’d just need the sucker or some wick

Maybe a bit of flux to get it flowing cleanly out

[dapper obsidian]

I was about to desolder my Tofu84 until I grabbed the funny desolder pump and remembered the times I learned soldering in my apprentice ship

and put it bac

back*

Aint no way I am sitting there getting the legs out one by one with that fckn thing

[quick plinth]

https://tenor.com/view/vietnam-flashback-traumatized-cat-gif-7852054576948114551

[dapper tartan]

Right. It's such a hassle. A shame really, I do like the stability/reliability of soldered switches

[dapper obsidian]

well but besides some LEDs died on the Tofu and it had underglow as it was the transparent acrylic version

turns out once one dies all after it, die too. LED Quality was pure dog water. Blue part simply went dead in a year (had it in pink and turquise 24/7)

[quick plinth]

Noooo rip

[dapper obsidian]

well trying to exchange the LED basically just dug up the poor quality of the pcb

[dapper tartan]

Oof

[quick plinth]

Also love the use of dog water here though. I always say that and people look at me like I have 3 heads

[dapper obsidian]

desoldered one LED and well...the copper lanes came off with it

what a shame really

so its a none underglow Tofu84 now

🥹

But I really miss the Layout.

Compact 75% is such a nice Layout. Sadly only available in tray mount...

[quick plinth]

I may be the weird outlier that I really like the exploded 75%

Like the mammoth

[dapper tartan]

I feel you. I love the customisability of these keyboards, but I'm terrible at switching out lay-outs

[dapper obsidian]

There is a german "brand" that used to make ISO DE Keycaps in Cherry Profile and they adopted Keyboards now. Sadly they are crazy overpriced imo for a plain wired only tray mount board. They look nice tho: https://www.nvil.gg/

[sage flicker]

I was thinking about this. But does .1mm actuation even matter for gaming? Because once you press down the key, RT is on, so even a 1mm actuation point would still trigger under 1mm after the first press/depress. I feel like .1mm actuation only affects the very first stroke on the key.

[dapper obsidian]

.1mm actuation is pain

[quick plinth]

That’s a neat looking board

[dapper obsidian]

thinking of touching the keys actuates it

its bad

[sage flicker]

ya i've been using it for so long and slowly increasing it and getting fewer typos.

but i don't even see the need for it even for gaming, it's just the very first stroke that matters. RT makes it so you still trigger under a higher actuation point - e.g. 1.5mm actuation at a 2mm actuation point.

so if you're doing wasd spamming, you get all the benefits of the .1mm with RT.

[dapper tartan]

Agreed, .1mm is good for the initial response time. But I do think that can matter a lot in certain scenarios

[dapper obsidian]

I get gaming keys to 1-1.5mm

but I am not used to HE boards as of now

so maybe I decrease it over time

[sacred elm]

i only have 0.1mm on my wasd keys

1mm on other keys

[sage flicker]

right, but i think even that doesn't matter. bc of RT.

you might as well have wasd same as other keys.

[sacred elm]

well compared to 1mm it does matter

[sage flicker]

it doesn't. Because rapid trigger allows you to actuate anywhere on the press/depress once it's actuated.

[dusky sinew]

This might be a dumb question I want to have Jade Pro switches on all of my keys accept mods like shift , enter , space. Can I use the lekkers on those and the Jades on the rest without running into issues ?

[sage flicker]

so only the first stroke gets the .1mm benefit

unless i'm missing something about RT. But i think that's how it works.

[sacred elm]

Thanks, I know what rapid trigger is

first stroke matters

[glacial wind]

Lawlcakes is just playing different games I think

[sacred elm]

you can use other switches yes

[glacial wind]

He’s not thinking about it from say a valorant or apex perspective where the first rt really matters because it’s the only one lol

[dusky sinew]

Wasn’t sure if mixing switches would cause issues. Appreciate the response.

[sage flicker]

idk, but i would say...first stroke is like .001% of how much you're using WASD. I think edge cases of first stroke saving you from a bullet is not something I'd consider necessary, but it's preference.

[glacial wind]

It’s about timing of first bullet accuracy

not about saving yourself from a bullet

[sage flicker]

depends on games, i guess. yeah. Valorant etc you want to get out of a corner faster and fire the bullet.

ya i see.;

[glacial wind]

Kinda but more about stopping time

Lower rt means you stop earlier means your gun is accurate earlier

aka more responsive and quicker timing on when you can fire accurately

[kind helm]

the release travel distance

[sage flicker]

ya i use continuous RT, so once it's actuated, RT is on for all the presses/depresses until key released.

[glacial wind]

Continuous rt for example does basically nothing in valorant

Because it’s not about rapid repressing

and you’re probably setting really sensitive start and really sensitive rt anyway for valorant

[sage flicker]

ya i see what you're saying. you want to fine tune control of the start/stop.

continuous would force you to release key to stop the RT*.

[glacial wind]

Oh neat I didn’t realize geon released 0.4mm stem spacers as well as his 0.5mm ones

[paper bloom]

Didnt i mention this apart from geon

Since i thought u knew LOL

Back when i yapped about the uhh confusion between long and short ?

Pole

If not mb then

[glacial wind]

I think 0.5mm ones still the play for raw he

Since it’s 3.4mm travel on those

[paper bloom]

Ig that works yea

Since it brings it to a 3.9

[sage flicker]

did a refresher course, lol. I was getting confused. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Sl-T6iQr8U&t=179s - CRT doesn't matter much at low actuation points. Might give you typos though for double letter typing. Need to test. ;0

[lavish jungle]

optimum set arrived!

[gleaming crow]

anyone have any recommendations for places to get a nice ergo chair in Canada?

[tiny summit]

Hello everyone! just had a quick question, whenever Im just typing in my browser.. specifically when im typing any special keys when holding shift (1) = ! for example, the input for that special function is very slow.. not sure if anyone else is having this issue or even if that sense...😅 but any help would be greatly appreciated, thanks in advance! 🙂

[loud gull]

Finalized friction fit tutorial is online!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NvMwijZU-L0

[kind helm]

beautiful

[ionic breach]

[obsidian lark]

Does someone with 60He gateron jade use Drop keycpas?

[stone flax]

whats ur actual question

[obsidian lark]

if their keycaps are compatible with those switches and the keyboard itself

and how is the quality of them

[kind helm]

drop sucks :V

[stone flax]

drop sucks :V

[obsidian lark]

so what keycaps do you use?

[stone flax]

what keycaps were u looking at

[obsidian lark]

wait let me check

Artifact Bloom Series Keycap Set: Dark Dolch

[stone flax]

not good

if u like it get it

[obsidian lark]

what are you recommending to buy then?

[stone flax]

what kind of keycaps do you want

dyesubs? doubleshots? What color way, etc…

[obsidian lark]

I dont really know something that is both good quality and looks nice

[stone flax]

too vague

[kind helm]

do you like the one you picked in terms of color?

[obsidian lark]

yes

[obsidian lark]

what are you using?

[kind helm]

👀 what region are you in? this can determine which site you should look at first in terms of more reasonable shipping cost

[obsidian lark]

Europe

[stone flax]

gmk, nicepbt rn

[obsidian lark]

gmk cost something like 150$

[kind helm]

nicepbt

[stone flax]

not really no

[obsidian lark]

where should I search them

[stone flax]

vendors

https://www.alexotos.com/keyboard-vendor-list/

[obsidian lark]

I saw this site already and didnt find something keycap related

[stone flax]

…..ur not searching properly

these are vendors sorted by region

[obsidian lark]

I just found it

[stone flax]

[kind helm]

CAP

[obsidian lark]

are these GMK?

[stone flax]

yea

dmg r3

[obsidian lark]

140$

[kind helm]

even if you dont get gmk key caps due to their crazy price, you have better options compare to drop/ amazon

with those more custom keyboard focused sites

[stone flax]

yeah gmk dummy exp depending on the set

if u want something similar enough get keykobo

[obsidian lark]

which site is this?

[stone flax]

better prices for entry with kkb

[kind helm]

think that is like events and discount he caught

[stone flax]

omnitype

[kind helm]

[obsidian lark]

do you know any black grey white sets ?

[stone flax]

too many

[obsidian lark]

not in their website

[stone flax]

?????

its one vendor man

and theyre based in the states

Which is why i said look

At

Vendors list

For your region

Apollo, trader, agent01, oblivion, shashin, etc etc etc

[glacial wind]

Aw I thought gmk dualshot was $50. I’d have bought it for that price

[obsidian lark]

but it will be different prices

[kind helm]

if you buy from sites outside of your region, your shipping may be very expensive

due to distance and tax

[obsidian lark]

can you send links? couldnt find

[obsidian lark]

Are you buying from Europe?

[kind helm]

nope

[obsidian lark]

@stone flax

[obsidian lark]

Where are you buying from?

[kind helm]

since he brought from novelkey and omnitype, i assume hes in us as well

i typically buy from divinikey which is in california, and novelkey which is in virginia

i am trying to use aliexpress a bit more which has free shipping to us a lot of times, but i remember seeing that aliexpress shipping to eu is quite expensive

[heady terrace]

@harsh dove did u lube ur jade pros

or is the stock lube good enough

[obsidian lark]

do you thing glorious gpbt black will work good? with tofu60 redux grey + gateron jade?

[kind helm]

I wouldn't recommend buying anything from glorious. for switches, I suggest to pick from lekker v2, geon raw he, and gateron jade pro.

[obsidian lark]

already ordered jade pro

I need to find keycaps that will look good with the case

I am still searching

[kind helm]

what is your budget for key caps?

[obsidian lark]

I dont know maybe 40$

[kind helm]

personal opinion, glorious = trash & scam, drop = scam

but just my opinion :3

[obsidian lark]

any suggestions?

for something that is not a scam or trash

[glacial wind]

For $40 you’re probably looking at aliexpress

[kind helm]

bro from eu

[glacial wind]

That’s fine, aliexpress ships cheap there still

[kind helm]

[obsidian lark]

I know but almost everything there looks like a scam

[glacial wind]

You just have to buy from the reputable dealers

[kind helm]

https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256805773939449.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.main.13.1b1033fbFc512l&algo_exp_id=5359b786-d431-40bd-96d9-c429110150c8-6&pdp_npi=4%40dis!USD!40.09!36.25!!!40.09!36.25!%402101c59817325606964358680e17dd!12000035092027617!sea!US!1624823896!X&curPageLogUid=JlT1q28LMnAB&utparam-url=scene%3Asearch|query_from%3A

ali link is L

[glacial wind]

Ghost judges for example is fairly reputable

[kind helm]

@stone flax do you think that particular set is good, then shenpo one you mentioned

[obsidian lark]

why do you thing drop is a scam?

[kind helm]

for one when i first got into keyboard modding, i saw a kit there that they sell for 100+ with a month long delivery time and found the exact same one on amazon that is close to half the price with overnight shipping

[glacial wind]

For example this is ghost judges from kprepublic:
https://a.aliexpress.com/_oB47tbj

No problem with buying from them

[obsidian lark]

any other sites ?

[kind helm]

mj gave you a list of sites.

[glacial wind]

I mean there’s plenty but you have a budget lower than the price of most keycaps from other vendors

[obsidian lark]

yea I know

[kind helm]

that too

[obsidian lark]

are you from eaurope ?

[kind helm]

ali is the best place for that price point i think

if the shipping is good

[glacial wind]

No, but I’m not sure what that has to do with it

[obsidian lark]

it just looks sketchy for me

[dusky jay]

whats the ez mod for anyone to do

[glacial wind]

I mean. Aliexpress is just a site for people to put up stores

[kind helm]

modding_faq

[glacial wind]

There are official dealers there like kdbfans and other big names there on aliexpress

You just have to buy from official stores that are reputable

[obsidian lark]

yes I ordered the tofu60 redux from there

[obsidian lark]

how do I know if its a real store?

[kind helm]

https://www.maxgaming.com/ I think max gaming is supposed to be a pretty decent site for eu

I have saw some people buy from there in this channel. but the gud stuff all like around 100

[glacial wind]

Ask here if you’re not sure. Usually good stores are easy to spot from reviews and some names are known

like the one I linked you is kprepublic who are legit

[obsidian lark]

thanks

[obsidian lark]

I mean yes but I dont think its a problem to fake it

[glacial wind]

What do you mean?

[obsidian lark]

I dont know how to spot real store when I found kbdfans there it was because i found the link from their site

[glacial wind]

there’s nothing fake about the official vendors like kdbfans, kprepublic etc who have stores on aliexpress

Just post the link here and ask if it’s legit

[obsidian lark]

do you know if omnitype has a store there?

[kind helm]

dont think so

[dapper hazel]

usually only asian stores are on aliex

[glacial wind]

You cannot afford anything by omnitype

[kind helm]

omnitype is a us site

that too xD

[dapper hazel]

US stores are more likely to be on amazon for 2.5x the regular price :D

[glacial wind]

The reason we’re linking you aliexpress is because your price range means you basically have to buy clones

[kind helm]

the desk mat on omnitype is 25

[dapper hazel]

@obsidian lark better question is where you are, theres most likely a local vendor?

[glacial wind]

if you want to buy the type of keycaps from Omnitype then your budget needs to go up unless you get really lucky to find a set of large sale

[dapper hazel]

as theyre now everywhere

[obsidian lark]

there is no vendor in my country I am very sure

[dapper hazel]

well, we can check if you want

[kind helm]

possible though right now, but the tax and shipping probably is still rough, black friday

[obsidian lark]

how ?

[dapper hazel]

first, by knowing the country

[glacial wind]

Even cheapest Omni type one is like $50 already

His budget is $40

[kind helm]

true da

[glacial wind]

Including shipping etc the only option he has is aliexpress clones really

[kind helm]

i was just thinking that the us sites are having large sale right now :3

[obsidian lark]

they got 49 gmk now I would buy but 28$ shipping

[stone flax]

got a good dyesub set

or does the colorway he want not allow

[dapper hazel]

yeah you wont get around 20-30 shipping unless its local or aliexpress

• import taxes depending where you are

[kind helm]

the set he picked on amazon pretty much is just black on grey

[obsidian lark]

?

[kind helm]

abs is more for vibrate colors right 0.0 idk :3

[dapper hazel]

which country though?

ordering from the US is always bad from outside the US as shipping is always going to be high

[glacial wind]

Just find a set you like on aliexpress and someone can probably link you to the equivalent clone if it’s not a good vendor

[kind helm]

also for that price range, anything you find on amazon would probably be from some aliexpress store as well..

[gleaming crow]

Anyone know of any places I can pick up a good ergo chair in Canada?

[kind helm]

maxgaming has gud discount right now but not much for key caps specifically.

[dapper hazel]

I just got destroyed by that trickery... ordered silent switches for my mouse... $3 on aliexpress, $16 on amazon... decided for amazon cause i wanted it "now" and have less hustle with it... ended up being a china store shipping it from china. package was delivered by the cheapest express courier ever, they didnt ring the door bell, was instantly returned for nobody at home

...

[kind helm]

yep

that extra 13 probably is the shipping cost ngl

[glacial wind]

I only ever buy Amazon if it’s delivered by Amazon

[kind helm]

return with amazon is pretty good though

[hexed prism]

What uk retailers are best for Jade pro switches

[glacial wind]

Popular out of town uk retailer Mr Ali express is his name

[hexed prism]

Oh really lol

[polar girder]

Yo rumored HE switches in the works??

[minor pond]

anyone knows where to get a friction fit pad ?

[dapper hazel]

fiction fit pad?

[minor pond]

Yeah

[dapper hazel]

well nowhere apparently

separately

[polar girder]

It’s not sold separately. Yet.

[dapper hazel]

get rubber band :)

[minor pond]

Oh

[minor pond]

Any links to sum

[dapper hazel]

what was is DS206 standard? let me check

262 dash

https://www.mcmaster.com/products/o-rings/dash-number~262/

[minor pond]

Thank you 🙏

[dapper hazel]

metric ~
OD = 184.45 mm
ID = 177.39 mm
Width = 3.53 mm

[minor pond]

That’s the specific one I need for the board ?

[dapper hazel]

thats whats usually used for 60%

[minor pond]

Alrighty

Thanks for the help tho just copped sum

[edgy stream]

Does anyone know any program for RGB effects for 60HE? The one that are on the default programe are really underwhelming...

[harsh dove]

No

[harsh dove]

Amazon usually sells fakes so gotta be careful with that

Unless you don’t care about fakes/clones

To each their own

[polar girder]

lol first time I’ve heard this

No clue. Good luck

[polar girder]

Good to hear

Jade pro only switch that interest me rn

[kind helm]

did you order it

[polar girder]

No

I’m tired of ordering shit

But if I put together a Neo ergo ill add them to the order lol

[kind helm]

after mr. sno mentioned the discount i got some that arrives tomorrow :3

LOL

[polar girder]

Nice

What discount

[kind helm]

its just like 10 dollars off for i guess either thanksgiving or blackfriday

60 -> 50 on amazon, and gateron is like 40 something before shipping.

[tropic urchin]

Jade pros 20% discount was nice

[glacial wind]

yeah lot of nice switch deals right now with the black friday discount + aliexpress coin + aliexpress black friday coupon stack

you can pick up basically any of the popular HE switches for good discounts right now

[tropic urchin]

Just in time for my 10-11 day Gateron shipping to beat my white zinc arrival

[kind helm]

it would be funny if the key caps i ordered on mid nov gets here before my venom pcb

i have everything else ready for more than a week now, pain

[glacial wind]

if i had enough coins I would have bought the made68 pro for $70-75 yesterday then took out all the ttc magneto switches for myself and sold it to friend for $70 lol

pity i was short a few k ali coins

[harsh dove]

@fluid ravine black alu plate arrived

[fluid ravine]

YESSSSSSS LITTTT

[harsh dove]

Might try it in the optimum case build on stream

[heady terrace]

whats ur fav stabs rn?

[fluid ravine]

exciting

switches?

[harsh dove]

Swagkeys Knights

[harsh dove]

Maybe Jade Pros

[heady terrace]

they always oos still LMAO

[harsh dove]

Too good lol

[fluid ravine]

alr alr makes sense lol

[heady terrace]

i was looking at the stupid stabs but no one really has reviews on it

[harsh dove]

I got RAWs in my Frog60HE and my 80HE and don’t wanna take em out lol

[fluid ravine]

gate keepers heh

[tidal frigate]

Will you try friction fit on every case u own?

[fluid ravine]

yeah thats why it made sense to go for the pros

i feel ya

[harsh dove]

Like try the friction pad on multiple cases?

[tidal frigate]

Yep

[harsh dove]

Yeah I can if you like

[fluid ravine]

are you gonna snip the pad?

[kind helm]

me meanwhile wants to see mr @harsh dove 's nipple461e keyboard

[harsh dove]

Probably not

[fluid ravine]

cus i 100% will

[harsh dove]

Lmao

[fluid ravine]

alr ill do it

[tidal frigate]

Atleast you would start compatibility list

[fluid ravine]

[harsh dove]

True

[harsh dove]

I’ll show ya on stream

[kind helm]

pog

[tidal frigate]

So what cases do you have?

Frog salvation tofu

Those i know

[harsh dove]

That are compatible, Tofu Redux, Salvation, Frog Mini, Alumaze, 461E

I think that’s it

And optimum case ofc

[fluid ravine]

even frog mini?

interesante

[harsh dove]

Idk if you can friction mount frog mini

I meant 60HE compatible

[polar girder]

Can’t see how

Yeah

[fluid ravine]

thats what i was thinking

[polar girder]

Yeah he just meat 60HE cases

[tidal frigate]

Well i'am talking about compatibility for that friction fit

[harsh dove]

Meat 60HE 🥩

[polar girder]

Everything except frog then maybe

[harsh dove]

I’ll get ready to stream if yall are around

[polar girder]

I mean I assume they’ll all work

But TBD

[harsh dove]

Yeah I’d assume too

[fluid ravine]

yup am ready

home alone like always

eating my donuts

drinking milk

[tidal frigate]

Do you still have nipple case?

[fluid ravine]

lol

[harsh dove]

lol

[fluid ravine]

he does

[harsh dove]

Yeah

[fluid ravine]

[polar girder]

He just listed it lol

[polar girder]

lol

Fr

[tidal frigate]

Oh ye

[kind helm]

wait i am number 69

LMAO perfect

[tropic urchin]

Time to be #70

[fluid ravine]

patiently waiting

[kind helm]

my jade pro just got here

[fluid ravine]

nice

[polar girder]

Damn your setup nicer than mine now bro lol

[fluid ravine]

give us your thoughts when you can

[kind helm]

be back in 3, someone screenshot that nipple case if i miss it

[fluid ravine]

LMAO

[harsh dove]

[tidal frigate]

I was 69

[harsh dove]

Lmao bro is upgrading every day

[tidal frigate]

@harsh dove i saw that owlabs has that weird see trough gasket for wooting x owlabs collab

[fluid ravine]

Where the journey of wooting pretty much all started

[polar girder]

Not pictured: professional grade camera

[fluid ravine]

[stone flax]

gloros keycaps 😭

[fluid ravine]

shhhhh

we dont talk about it, my mom chose it for me

[glacial wind]

ask mom how she feels about a nice $100 custom cable

[fluid ravine]

😭

[glacial wind]

maybe she thinks your cable needs to match your desk setup

what if the reply is "oh course! Why didn't we match the cable to your desk long ago, here is $100!"

[fluid ravine]

frigin mustard cable

[glacial wind]

actually the geon cable is insanely nice for $5 and would match your setup lol

but shipping would probably kill you

[harsh dove]

Yeah its pretty interesting

[fluid ravine]

do you have a link?

Might as well sell my board and get a venom60he along side it

[kind helm]

aye i am back

[fluid ravine]

hey hey

[tidal frigate]

Well calder said it is something diffrent than friction fit but simmiliar

[glacial wind]

https://geon.works/products/geon-cable-3 - it's just a basic usb a to c 3.2 cable, but it's rated and properly checked for 5gpbs and uses 22 awg cabling

[kind helm]

i see mr. cam is live now *w*

[glacial wind]

for $5 it's quite nice value lol

[polar girder]

$7^*

[glacial wind]

i use korean pricing, so it's like $4 here lol

it looks like this outside of render

[tidal frigate]

Thats info from z frontier stream

[kind helm]

the top out of jade pro is sexy

[glacial wind]

beefy boy cable for $5

[tidal frigate]

It is fuckin thick

Like rope

[fluid ravine]

im so confident about this

for all at i dont mind at all

[glacial wind]

lol

[kind helm]

hes doing it!

yes!

[polar girder]

As he should.

[fluid ravine]

who said i am 👀

[tidal frigate]

You are cheatin on your wooting?

[fluid ravine]

jk maybe havent settle my decision yet

[polar girder]

I mean I’m tempted AF By venom 60 NGL

[fluid ravine]

nor talk to my dad yet

[fluid ravine]

Wait!

They don't love me like I love you

[tidal frigate]

Thats not good

[fluid ravine]

[kind helm]

is it weird that i get excited just from looking at the spring

👀

[fluid ravine]

bro's excited about how long it is 😭

[kind helm]

[polar girder]

Same

Springs are hype

I’m with it

[fluid ravine]

i would be too lmfao

[tidal frigate]

Left has bad taste

[glacial wind]

i am curious to see how high the spring wars go

what if gateron does 25mm springs next

then ttc will have to do 30mm to beat them

[tidal frigate]

69mm spring

[fluid ravine]

wheres my 60g enlongated springs

[tidal frigate]

[glacial wind]

i think right now they seem to have held their grounds at 21 and 20mm

[tidal frigate]

@glacial wind can u update me when Johnny will be in prison?

[harsh dove]

https://www.twitch.tv/camofflife If anyone wants to see Optimum case build and/or just hangout

[glacial wind]

there won't be any info for awhile. He's basically just stuck in korea until trial as they bleed his money

[quiet bay]

good timing i was bored waiting in school

[fluid ravine]

LMAO

im on thanksgiving break

i mean school wouldve ended for me by now

[tidal frigate]

Are there chances hes goin to jail or only deportation?

[glacial wind]

they will 100% push for jail after all the stuff he's done

[tidal frigate]

Or trow him away to north korea

[kind helm]

after playing around with jade pro a bit, i agree with mr. arcsyko's opinion completely :3

pretty much exactly as he described

just by listening to the switch, i dig the bottom out of jade pro more, a bit louder and sharper for lack of better word. dont know which i would pick though for now, i haven't built a board with them.

but gud switch me like overall

[calm pulsar]

at some point springs will probably be noisy because of coil on coil contact

[kind helm]

oh hi there mr arcsyko good morning i think 0v0?

[calm pulsar]

morning for you, start of the night shift for me

[kind helm]

4:48pm right now for me i thought you are on the other side of the world but i guess my geography sucks

cam is building a optimum case right now on stream if you can find a break hehe :3

[calm pulsar]

wait no you make sense, cause tehcnically it will be morning for me soon, so its mb 😄

[calm pulsar]

ohhhh wait

link

[kind helm]

https://www.twitch.tv/camofflife

most premium case

mr optimum capping big time

[tropic urchin]

low key cant wait til i can use real stabs 😭

[calm pulsar]

are yours digital rn?

[fluid ravine]

LMAO

[tropic urchin]

honestly yeah

with how bad these stock azoth stabs are

theyre like fucking plastic clips lmfaoo

my enter key sounds so bad ;_;

[austere creek]

ok i verified this link is no 18+ content (although theres some weird frog energy in that stream)

[kind helm]

yea showing NSFW curves on stream :V

time for mr. arcsyko to hop off :3

[fluid ravine]

[austere creek]

https://tenor.com/view/gay-frogs-chemicals-gif-11317922

[tropic urchin]

My white zinc should be at the warehouse by now, but waiting for that sweet address confirmation

[kind helm]

1 week later "cant find your address, returning to wooting for now, sorry for the inconvenience."

[tropic urchin]

Im going to send mark to revoke your 60HE privileges with that talk 😭

[kind helm]

LOLOLOLOL

[tropic urchin]

may your water be uncomfortably warm and your pillow steaming 😤

[kind helm]

looks like the 461e's pad only covers the keys on the edges.

[fluid ravine]

that's for the mount

[kind helm]

yea W

[calm pulsar]

its 2 piece kinda

[fluid ravine]

it has a seperated piece for the alpha

[calm pulsar]

can insert for the alphas

[fluid ravine]

so you can choose silicone, poron, or nothing

[kind helm]

NOTHING is the way.

[calm pulsar]

northing being the best

[fluid ravine]

although there isnt any poron

[kind helm]

embrace the void

[fluid ravine]

yurrrr

that's how im gonna run it for friction pad

[kind helm]

I kinda want to ask kbdfan if they would sell theirs separately as well

i have the gentleman's contact through a group not sure if he would answer though

[spare stirrup]

I want to ground my custom 60 he. Is there any other way to do it without using one screw like in the new video on wooting channel?

[austere creek]

if the case is conductive (metal) you can use conductive foam like we do on the optimum case

[fluid ravine]

oh the optimum case is conductive?

[austere creek]

i mean yes

its metal

[fluid ravine]

alright tiem to pull out the scale of 1-10

[austere creek]

its more conductive under the foam pad though as the metal is raw below it for better conductivity

[spare stirrup]

yeah it's metal tofu redux and I mounted the pcb with big o-ring

[austere creek]

this is what they look like

[spare stirrup]

Where I can buy it?

[kind helm]

correct me if i am being stupid, but if the pcb doesn't make directly contact with the case then it shouldn't matter, no? the pcb doesn't contact with the standoffs due to the silicone covers and the friction pad keeps the pcb centered in the middle

also aren't the circuit inside the pcb essentially so metal case shouldn't matter?

probably a real stupid question for ee people but i don't remember anything from my physics and ee courses anymore

[glacial wind]

what if we just rename the electric shocks to something more positive

like sparks of joy

[fluid ravine]

im over here not knowing what shit means

[glacial wind]

https://tenor.com/view/marie-kondo-spark-joy-this-sparks-joy-this-one-sparks-joy-netflix-gif-26883533

[kind helm]

"tingle of joy"

[fluid ravine]

sparks of joy 😭

[austere creek]

well the thing is youre using an HE board... it will over time accumulate static in the case

so grounding it near the usb port (the port itself is ground so attaching the case via conductive foam is ideal) means it can safely discharge

[kind helm]

my brain can't imagine the electric magnetic directions any more, but essentially, the port should come into contact with the case to ensure static doesn't build up, or at least the case should have some way to connect to the port, is that correct?

[austere creek]

yes

[spare stirrup]

I wonder if it's even worth a hassle coz 60 he is already stiff af even with friction fit

[austere creek]

its why we added the foam near the port in the optimum case

[spare stirrup]

and one screw won't change typing feel

[kind helm]

that is actually pretty important for me personally since my current setup, the port hang in mid air with the pcb supported by small pieces of foam tapes on top of the bumps on the case...

thank you for the explaination ❤️

also doesn't touching the case discharges it?

[spare stirrup]

I found something similar on aliexpress is there any rule against sending links on this discord?

[wide parcel]

bruh, just use a piece of aluminum foil

[uneven cradle]

No rules against it just try to get rid of all the tracking in the link so it doesn't take up half the screen

[wide parcel]

or even better, cut a switch spring the right size and place it under the usb port, tape it to the port so it doesn't touch anything else. Probably HE switch springs are too big, use standard cherry switch style spring

[kind helm]

or even better, use daughter board

[spare stirrup]

aliexpress.com/item/1005005426095849.html

[wide parcel]

? 60HE doesn't have a daughter board

[kind helm]

venom60he does

[wide parcel]

you're on wooting discord, talking about wooting modding

[kind helm]

talkin bout he modding

[calm pulsar]

it is technically possible to do some soldering to make wooting work with a daughterboard, but I havent seen anyone do it yet

60he pro better have a jst connector

[marsh saffron]

The modding channel isn't just for wooting, this is general keyboard modding mostly

[wide parcel]

too difficult for the average user, and doesn't automatically solve the grounding issue, you still need to ground the daughter board

[fluid ravine]

we talk about the most random shit anyways

[marsh saffron]

True asf

Speaking of, my xg2431 shit the bed the other day 😭😭

[fluid ravine]

daily active people on this channel know what we talking abt

[marsh saffron]

They accepted my RMA request just gotta send it in for a new unit

[kind helm]

personally think 461e has friction pad done right, then wooting made the lazy version, i dont think they give a f👀

[marsh saffron]

😭😭

[glacial wind]

that's a bit weirdchamp.

[fluid ravine]

well 461E isn't a friction pad

it's like a silicone tab mount

[wide parcel]

ok but the guy was asking for help about grounding a friction fit 60HE to the metal case, so his suggestion "use a daughter board", is useless

[glacial wind]

yeah 461E isn't a friction pad. It's a whole mount

[fluid ravine]

stated as a "gasket mount"

on their website

[glacial wind]

friction pad is a different thing altogether

[marsh saffron]

I was just saying we use this channel for everything 🤷

[kind helm]

:3 just a thought

[glacial wind]

if at this stage you think wooting doesn't care about stuff then I don't know what to tell you

[tawdry tree]

my second monitor a couple days ago

[marsh saffron]

Pain

[tawdry tree]

fr

[marsh saffron]

Thankfully my RMA request was accepted, 165hz looks so bleh

Need muh 240hz back

[tawdry tree]

mine is still under warranty as well so should get it fixed/a new one

[marsh saffron]

I thought it was my gpu at first

Which would've suckeddddd

[kind helm]

i just think they go where the money is, and nothing wrong with that

[tawdry tree]

bro 💀

imagine

[marsh saffron]

I was pissed at first

Would've been sol too because I sold my old 2070s

[tawdry tree]

idk what the cause is tbh

my old monitor had this too one time and it just fixed itself

[glacial wind]

except they haven't done that as the main priority in their companies history so far

so it's a little bit shitty to say that, especially when initial statement was wrong

[marsh saffron]

Yeah I literally went to bed and woke up and it started doing it for no apparent reason

[kind helm]

just opinion

[glacial wind]

if anything wooting would probably be more successful if they did 'be lazy and follow the money' - but they specifically don't do that in a lot of ways

[kind helm]

not to argue but would like to know what

[glacial wind]

eg. cases

the amount of headache and time and investment they've done into learning how to make their own cases when they could outsourced that elsewhere is big

and they did that because it seems to be part of what they enjoy - learning to build new things their way

[tidal frigate]

Burn it with lighter

Ancient Polish technique

[kind helm]

actually one valid thing that i miss the lekker v2, that is big improvement over v1. but the cases, just my opinion again, freebird was right there for them to copy from, not to say they did, not to say making the cases arent a lot of work.

[glacial wind]

yeah and instead of just copying they went and made alumaze

also fyi freebird is built off gh60 which wasn't a freebird thing

[tawdry tree]

Lekker V1 and V2 are just OEM switches.

V2 has a Wooting logo slapped on it though, that’d be the improvement. 😉

[kind helm]

i guess i just dont see strap being a big improvement over what was available at the time. but yes you are right that they put their own style onto the case design

[glacial wind]

if you're going to say every case that was freebird-ish was just copying and adding minor things then I think you are very very misinformed on the 60% gh60 format

there's a reason 60% traymount is the most standardized and populated format in keyboards and it's not because of the freebird, which was a late joiner from keebsforall to make a cheapie 60% case

[kind helm]

i was just saying a name of top of my head, again, not to say they copied from that :3

[calm pulsar]

I think alumaze is nice actually, in terms of looks
just don't like the strap thing personally

[glacial wind]

and it's not about 'putting their own style' on the design. It's that they didn't just go collab or license some other factory to just pump out generic cases for them - it's that they do things like try to learn how to build cases from scratch

[tawdry tree]

alu’s aesthetics are great

[glacial wind]

there's no reason they need to learn how to build thier own cases for example

[balmy temple]

Has anyone here tried the jade gaming switches?

[glacial wind]

they do that because they seem to genuinely enjoy learning how to build and expand their companies abilities even if it's at the cost of immediate profit

they have their own way of doing things where for better or worse it's about the journey and learning as they go - so it's very counter to their company to randomly say 'oh wootings just being lazy and trying to min max profits here'

another example - how they randomly refunded people extra shipping fees months later when they realized they charged more than they needed

literally just throwing away free profit that no customers really minded or cared about or even knew, just because they thought it was right to give some of it back when it wasn't required

[kind helm]

i dont mind that at all since me on the consumer side can get something better.

[tawdry tree]

even if they’re almost double the price?

[kind helm]

gateron victim can't feel the pain

[kind helm]

i do agree that wooting is a good company. but in terms of modding related things, nothing impressive happened after the release of 60he module and lekker v2, just imo, i am a dumb a33. all of the cases with wooting's name on them are meh, just to me personally. but the space has been well explored by MX with many impressive things done. Yes i know HE has its own limitations, Yes i know that HE is relatively new. Yes I understand the MX is a much bigger community. i just personally don't think those limitations justify that. Being the og of HE boards and being at the price they are, as a dumb ass consumer who doesn't know s44t about running a company, i think they couldve been better.

[balmy temple]

The real victims are the ttc switch buyers

[polar girder]

GUGU switch enjoyer Chad enters the chat

mogging all the haters.

[balmy temple]

Ttc switches are overpriced and sound bad

[glacial wind]

i think that's what you're not getting - we're not talking about the quality of the cases or mods

it's not about whether they did good or bad with their cases/mods/etc

it's that they aren't doing it to 'chase profits' or 'be lazy'

[kind helm]

thats kinda weak imo but maybe i am a shitty person

[glacial wind]

i don't think you get it still

i'm not talking about the grade of wootings ability to make mods or cases

[little glen]

Oh so you do know how to type shit out normally

I was wondering what that was about the whole time

[kind helm]

i play too much val bro, the censorship twisted my brain

[glacial wind]

i don't even disagree that wooting can do better and will have to slowly learn to improve (eg. coatings etc)

it's just that describing their failings or what you don't like as 'chasing profits' or 'being lazy' is completely incorrect and makes it seem as if you think wooting just doesn't get mods working how you want because they cut corners for profit or because they got lazy - which has been the opposite of most of their entire philosophy and business so far

[rough hornet]

Guys should I get the l45 or the l45 v2

[polar girder]

V2

[glacial wind]

don't get v1

they're one of the worst he switches at this point. I'd only get v1 if I wanted to mod them somehow and make a frankenswitch or similar

[rough hornet]

The only difference is there more stable sound better and got better rgb wich is kinda good I’ll see if I got money to spend on that keyboard

If I don’t got the mullah il get the v1

If I do I’ll get v2

[kind helm]

well since i am a shitty person i dont care if i am being unfair hehehe

[glacial wind]

i mean... you do you, but perhaps just not saying silly things is a better alternative

[kind helm]

not so silly. if they really "love what they do and it is their philosophy", prove it with some quality work. :V

[glacial wind]

but those 2 things are not connected

[leaden rain]

what keycaps should i buy for the 60he?

[little glen]

Depends on budget and what you like/want

[kind helm]

any keycaps should work(as in functional) pretty much, just whatever you like :3

[leaden rain]

Do keycaps change the sound of a keyboard significantly

[polar girder]

What are you looking for that you’re not getting?

[leaden rain]

Cause i want a thocky sound

[polar girder]

-significantly +slightly

[little glen]

Some keycaps can significantly change the sound but i also would not recommend them

[kind helm]

i am not looking for anything, we just got into the conversation. i hope mods dont think its heated

[glacial wind]

i think he's just equating 'if you aren't being cheap or lazy then your product must be great' which doesn't work that way for anything

a product can be not great or not perfect for many factors that aren't to do with someone or some business being cheap or lazy

for example right now every tech company is pumping absurd amounts of money into AI - are they being cheap or lazy just because basically 9/10 of them are still early stage products that aren't there yet?

no - they're failing because there's a lot more needed to be done, learnt or figured out for AI to suck less. It's not necessarily a lack of money or work invested

are there some companies that add AI to try money grab? yeah. Is that the case for every company? not really, particularly the big ones are literally going spend crazy to try figure it out and quoted as saying things like 'we will go bankrupt to get ai working'

[polar girder]

Yeah idk how much innovation can be had when they can barely keep with demand lol

Small company

[glacial wind]

yeah the reality is wooting is going through growing pains of learning how to do a lot of stuff. Like how to build cases with less flaws, how to get better, stronger coatings, how to build a switch, etc. A lot of this stuff they literally didn't know how to do 1-2 years ago and they're learning as they go

[polar girder]

And still developing new product lol

[stray tiger]

Wooting actively connects to the custom MX community and makes things like modding/customization a core focus of what they are building. On top of that, they want to build quality products and do it with a bit of Wooting originality or flare. No one else was doing this before for gaming keyboards and no one else is doing it as well still. There are 1-2 other options that come close and lean more towards the custom side of it, but the software and support isnt equal.

[tidal frigate]

Do other companies release case files?

[stray tiger]

Every day I see the same 2-4 people in here pimping cheap HE solutions as if they are equal to or better than wooting. That's simply not true.

The best part though is that Wooting allows it because they know it's not true but they also know that understanding the community is the key to being successful. Have they made a few mistakes, of course. Have they been better than almost every other company when it comes to addressing, correcting and compensating for those mistakes? Also yes

Also, name another company that has the amount of transparency that wooting has. Ill wait

[tidal frigate]

They gave me 40€ for keeping my pristine 80he.

[stray tiger]

Not usually for cases

[tidal frigate]

Sounds like good deal

[glacial wind]

hell they gave me $43 back just because they charged me $21 more than they needed on shipping my 80he initially

literally doubled the amount that they didn't even need to give me back in the first place

no other companies do things like that

[tidal frigate]

Thock father do you know where can i report if european company copies wooting designs?

[stray tiger]

You could add it to the list of the dozens of Asian companies who copy them.

[tidal frigate]

Well suing European company would be easier than chinnese based

[glacial wind]

it's likely a super expensive endeavour that's hard to get results from

there's a lot of loopholes to things when it comes to china. For example you can shut down one company making products in china but selling in EU, then suddenly another company springs up next day selling the almost same product from a different place in china that's 'totally not the same company'

[kind helm]

was working on some stuff for a moment, had to think a bit, mb. but true you right, being passionate != quality work. but i still personally think there were some lazy work, but it is probably best for me to drop this convo.

[stray tiger]

Which keycap set did you go with

[harsh dove]

GMK Stealth

[glacial wind]

On a sidenote, I have gotten the go ahead to start a wooting related project to make a database of wooting modding guides, information and faqs. Kind of like taking all the information in the discord modding pins, faq channels, sound tests and other known information by regulars in here and putting it into a better organized wooting mods reference website.

Will be slowly putting together the site over the next week or so, then depending on wootings approval of how they like it, I might possibly expand the content and tests on the site in the future to more standardized sound tests and other things.

[stray tiger]

Thats awesome!

[kind helm]

did they agree to it

[glacial wind]

yeah, i emailed marketing beforehand and got some stuff sent out as well

[kind helm]

W

[stray tiger]

I had been working on an updated FAQ before work started to kick my ass but lmk if you need anything and I'll be happy to help you out.

[glacial wind]

for sure. I'm sure i'll end up using most of your current faq things as base references for a lot of the guides and info anyhow

[stray tiger]

We have a lot of pinned information spread around and some stuff in the backstage areas that could/should probably be available publicly.

[kind helm]

@stray tiger @glacial wind question for you more seasoned gamers, do you think static can be a issue for HE board?

I asked about this since tony mentioned that for the optimum case, case foam should be used not for sound but also to avoid issue with static in mr. cam's recent stream

[glacial wind]

that's more an issue with friction mounting the case than anything else isn't it

[kind helm]

oh so that is a problem with friction generating static? he mentioned its with HE so that confused the f out of my 3 brain cells

[rough hornet]

where can i get costom straps from my 60he+

[kind helm]

i thought it somehow relates to how HE works.

[glacial wind]

yeah it's solely because the friction mount suspends the entire thing in silicone

whereas normally you'd have some sort of grounding touching somewhere to discharge

[tidal frigate]

Etsy

[rough hornet]

k

[stray tiger]

If the board isn't grounded (screwed into to the case) there is always a chance that a static charge could cause an issue. It's a very very very rare chance but it's there nonetheless. So to work around that with the Optimum case Wooting added a conductive sponge under the USB port. Is it a big enough issue to worry about in other cases, probably not but Wooting being Wooting wants to make sure you are aware and that they are aware.

[flat cobalt]

Got a new desk mat

[rough hornet]

pls tell me thats not texturized

if it was rip your mouse sensor

[kind helm]

also realistically when you touch your case it pretty much discharges through human body right?

[flat cobalt]

No lol

[rough hornet]

thank god

[flat cobalt]

Feels more like a control than speed though

[rough hornet]

i love control pads im using a msi agility m70

[stray tiger]

Just don't wear a wool sweater or corduroy pants and play with a balloon while using your ungrounded keyboard 😁

[untold wigeon]

Should I use poron or silicon

[kind helm]

when i rage i start wiggling my butt on my extreme gaming chair, but thanks, good to know its not a issue specific to HE. I was worrying it may have something to do with the electric magnetic stuff that I am not familiar with.

[hollow dagger]

What's stopping you from trying either?

[flat cobalt]

I like poron

[hollow dagger]

try them, stay with what you like. The only significant difference you will notice is the sound profile.

Sound profile is a very personal preference thing.

[stray tiger]

Nah would be the same with any keyboard, HE or not. You're more likely to cause DMG via static discharge when pulling the PCB out and changing switches/cases then you are while actively using it.

[kind helm]

yes sir

[polar girder]

My board isn’t grounded what do I do??

RIP me

[jaunty ruin]

"i start wiggling my butt on my extreme gaming chair" ive heard that one bfore hehehehe

[kind helm]

i didnt know dude, i dont know enough about circuit to conclusively say what is safe

[polar girder]

Yeah I read that

Now I’m scared

Ignorance is bliss

Just waiting for my 60HE to explode now

[calm pulsar]

instructions unclear
keyboard exploded

[kind helm]

yall are fucked :V

[tawdry tree]

if your metal case isn’t painted, you can just get a conductive foam pad/roll (not expensive at all) and cut a piece for in between the usb-c and hole. Exactly like the optimum case has.

[calm pulsar]

im wondering now, if I build a keyboard that has a daughterboard, is it grounded by default? becuase the daughterboard is screwed into the case basically

[tawdry tree]

yeah

[calm pulsar]

okay nice

[kind helm]

think so

[calm pulsar]

so excited for my LX60 build, will try MX and Venom

might also try to source gmk cosmos from somewhere

[tawdry tree]

good luck lol

[calm pulsar]

thanks 😄
cosmos will probably be super rare if at all in stock

Bigsly said he might sell his to me in case he doesnt like it, but there is also a local guy who sold me taiga, and he said he will have cosmos as well 😄

[tawdry tree]

bigs got two artisans to match cosmos, it’d be funny if he doesn’t end up liking it

[kind helm]

true da

[random zodiac]

hey, everyone! so, i was referred from #💬│general, i was told that many of you are into keycap mods and might be able to help... do you have any suggestion for keycaps with the english/hebrew legends, perhaps? or perhaps just a general idea of where (and how) i could find them?

[kind helm]

https://www.alexotos.com/keyboard-vendor-list/

[glacial wind]

hebrew is insanely rare btw just fyi

[random zodiac]

i saw that website, i tried navigating some of the storefronts it suggested, but i'm not really sure how to navigate through their selections effectively

[glacial wind]

you'd likely be looking at sets/clones of popular sets on aliexpress

[kind helm]

honestly it would probably be easier if you just talk about what you want

[glacial wind]

decide on color combo/style you want before legends

[random zodiac]

i mean, i would be fine with a simple design. it really doesn't have to be anything special (though that would've been nice)...

[kind helm]

like the color, based on what your desk mat looks like and your case looks like etc. and your budget

[glacial wind]

do you like black? white? cream? pastel? etc

[random zodiac]

well, i ordered the wooting keyboard in black. i really like black & white combos. though i wouldn't mind mixing in some other colors... maybe red & black?

[glacial wind]

the tricky part is mostly the hebrew lettering

[random zodiac]

which is why i said i'm fine with anything

[glacial wind]

i'm not sure i can think of any red/black keycaps that have hebrew

[random zodiac]

i know i don't have a lot of options

even just simple black/white would be good

[glacial wind]

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004369729631.html this for example isn't a bad set with hebrew

[random zodiac]

nah, the design here is disgusting, lol...

i know i said i'm fine with anything, but not that XD

but yeah, maybe i could check aliexpress

or maybe i'll just stick with english only. it's not THAT big of a deal, when i really think about it

[glacial wind]

aliexpress is probably your best bet because hebrew is mostly only going to be on the clone sets they make

if you don't need hebrew though then you have a ton of options

[random zodiac]

it's just that i speak both hebrew and english. but i'm a blind typer, and i mostly work in english, anyways. so i could probably do without

https://kineticlabs.com/keycaps this is a good website, right?

it's from the other website you've linked

[glacial wind]

yeah

[random zodiac]

then i think i'll look around here

though i've gotta ask, is there really a difference between the keycaps here and the keycaps from wooting? besides the design?

[kind helm]

kineticlabs has sound tests beneath the item description now?

[glacial wind]

you're paying more for design than anything else, but there can be some differences like thickness and printing

[random zodiac]

i'll stick with the wooting keycaps for now, then. but i'll definitely keep this website on my radar.

[polar girder]

Type shit

https://yuzukeycaps.com/finder

Full custom at a great price

[stray tiger]

Hebrew is probably easier to find than Arabic but neither are common

[paper bloom]

He cld get a custom keycap

And add the arabic or hebrew

Text

[stray tiger]

If money is no object there are a lot of option. Off the shelf will be tough.

[paper bloom]

Yea

[knotty iron]

guys, do teflon pads still soak up stabilizer lube

vs say poron pads

[livid onyx]

Hey guys - I've been interested in creating a custom Two HE metal case for a while. I've done a lot of the leg work from a sourcing standpoint, and actually have what seem like reasonable quotes from a few companies (based on the designs provided on Github).

However, this is the first time I've designed a custom case, so am not super familiar with the process / what questions to ask to make sure that the final version turns out well.

Anyone (ideally with some experience building a custom case) interested in working together to make a metal Two HE case a reality? Let me know here or feel free to shoot me a DM and I can share more details about what's been done so far.

Cheers

[knotty iron]

yo @spiral canyon , ik you don't make custom cases, but you gotta check this guy's msg. I respect the ambition!

If I do find people with a BG in designing and 3D work I will give you a referal @livid onyx

[kind helm]

@paper bloom

[paper bloom]

LOOOL LETS GO

[kind helm]

thanks giving break, i finally got bored enough to try it. way louder than i expected ngl

did you go with a pc plate, i think it may work better with that, soften it a little bit.

[young lantern]

how is the jade pro factory lube?

[sacred elm]

good

[tidal frigate]

I told some guy un optimum tech video there is twohe case files

So it might be same guy

[young lantern]

how is it compared to raws? i just spread the lube on mine

[tawdry tree]

I’ve heard good things about yuzu. a custom keycap set would be so sick

[paper bloom]

I run alu

[sacred elm]

its about the same

factory lubed

[kind helm]

you still got the link to your sound test? :3

[paper bloom]

I got chiems

[kind helm]

the one i am using is fr4

xD

[paper bloom]

Lemme see rq

@kind helm

[kind helm]

thank you kind sir

[tidal frigate]

So, only way i see it could work 2 part top bottom piece, you would also need new plate because twohe has integrated plate too.

Tho what did you do so far.

Or you could wait for updated twohe dunno when it would be tho

[kind helm]

i just realized this one is hand wired

LMAO fck with pcb is a bit higher pitch

[harsh dove]

Not removable btw

[paper bloom]

Ye it isnt

[paper bloom]

Yes

[stray tiger]

Yeah Calder said they weren't but that they were lower in height to provide clearance.

[harsh dove]

Ah yeah that seems right, they did seem lower

[kind helm]

also the cardboard i am using is from some packaging

think the one you shown and the one on the picture is like new cardboard

[paper bloom]

His is

[kind helm]

so those are probably more even, the one i am using is a bit used xD

[paper bloom]

Modified

Mines from the package

The uhh pad

[paper bloom]

Either way its still good XD

[kind helm]

yeee definitely fun to say the least hehe

i also lay some foam tape on the bottom to angle it *w*

[meager pine]

does anyone have sound test of the gateron raw linears on different plates?

[harsh dove]

Optimum Case slaps, thicc boy bezels go brrr

[solid condor]

hey guys, quick question. i just switched out switches from lekkers to geon raws, and all the switches are working except for the spacebar. if i go back to lekkers, it'll work again, but won't with the geon raw... any thoughts?

[ionic breach]

work as in?

physically or the input

[solid condor]

input. like there is no light up or functionality

[ionic breach]

put geon raws in