🔧│keyboard_modding

[stone flax]

like people in mx world do

[fluid ravine]

Wdym

[stray pawn]

is this in regards to the optimum bundle?

[fluid ravine]

That problem occurs with screw in stab housing josh

[stone flax]

ya

[kind helm]

housing of the stab blocking the oring making it stick out extra, if i understand correctly

oh screwin and clipin has different housing?

[stray pawn]

Am I able to put add-ons to my order before it ships out?

[kind helm]

i thought only the mounting method is different

[fluid ravine]

@kind helm

[stone flax]

ya i can show it rn

if u want

[fluid ravine]

Yes

[kind helm]

icic

[fluid ravine]

They look similar

[kind helm]

not plate mount though right, we talking pcb clipins

[marsh saffron]

Might take a bit but yeah

[runic spoke]

Tyt brotha u can send it in 3 months if you need to ❤️

[stray pawn]

Does anyone use/own the L60 V2? Im considering upgrading the switches from stock and would like opinions.

[fluid ravine]

But at the mounting areas of screws/clips, screw ins has a bulkier housing making the oring protrude out making it hard to the point where you can't mount with the gummy oring

[fluid ravine]

Just know that clip ins and plate mounts are compatible with a Gummy oring mount

[kind helm]

nah its fine, i just want to learn about it, ty bb ❤️

[fluid ravine]

Screw ins arent

[kind helm]

icic

[quiet bay]

I need more sneaks of owlabs case

🥺

[fluid ravine]

I would get screen shot examples but I'm at school rn still lol

[runic spoke]

Just get jade pro/max or Geon raw HE

I would recommend geon raw HE, crazy high quality switches for the price

[kind helm]

volleyball game later?

[quiet bay]

geon raw he cooler

[fluid ravine]

Yeah I got practice
My States game is this Saturday

But I'm still in class

[kind helm]

gl

[fluid ravine]

Lol

[fluid ravine]

Thanks man

[kind helm]

wait aren't you on the east side

[runic spoke]

I’ve had people tell me to use the graveshift oring with screwins.

[fluid ravine]

Texas

[stray pawn]

Would I need to lube the switches?

[stray pawn]

Also what force would you reccomend out of the 40 50 60

[kind helm]

ah

[runic spoke]

I mesn they come prelubed the same as any other switch would (so barely). If thats what you mesnt then no, there is no need to lube them

[fluid ravine]

You could run a S size Oring with screw ins but honestly not sure if it's a guarantee fit
It's best to just run a M size or bakeneko oring with clips ins to be safe and get a 100% assurance

[kind helm]

i finally found the 5months old video about optimum case today when i was looking up the case

[runic spoke]

I see, well i already ordered the S size o ring last week, so we’ll see how it ends up

[fluid ravine]

Lol I got a lot of photos of the case in my alt

[fluid ravine]

Alright gl man

[runic spoke]

Definitely 50g, unless you are used to smth specific

[fluid ravine]

Like the photos I shared were like a fraction of it lol

[runic spoke]

Do you type hard on your keys @stray pawn ?

[stray pawn]

Decently, can get worse when im on osu lol

[runic spoke]

Because I used to type really hard, but satisfying switches will kind of make you tone it down. I also play osu and 50g is fine ye

[steep raft]

After typing on 20gf start, 35gf end switches (35 Spring Pack Lubed) i could personally never go back to heavier switches, but i am 5'3 and my hands are smaller so that probably has something to do with it

[fluid ravine]

Tip for choosing spring weight:
Take whatever you have rn and make some opinions on what you think you need. If you like your current spring weight (we will use 50g for example) then buy 50g. If you think you need heavier then buy heavier. But if 50g seems too heavy then buy lighter.

[stray pawn]

Is there anything in particular that's better than the L60s? They're near the same price with the loyalty discount.

[jade storm]

what's new with it?

[fluid ravine]

Wsp?

[runic spoke]

The raw He’s are miles better than lekkers lol

[jade storm]

the new keyboard

[fluid ravine]

Have you seen the optimum vid?

I have a feeling you have

But idk

[stray pawn]

like the feel? sound?

[runic spoke]

They have like 0 stem wobble stock, kinda nutty

[jade storm]

i have but it's nothin crazy idk

i do really like that friction mount "plate?"

[fluid ravine]

0 is an exaggeration but yeah it's pretty damn good
Prob best throughout the HE line of switches

[fluid ravine]

Friction mount pad

Yeah it's pretty convenient if say

[stray pawn]

on the optimum?

[jade storm]

think we could use it on other cases?

[steep raft]

I am unfortunately in the camp where i just want my keyboard to be as light and airy as possible and would personally go to 20g switches if they existed. After using 35 for 3 months i have entirely adjusted and wish i could go even lower lol.

[fluid ravine]

Like it's more easier to install and more consistent to get it down than with gummy oring

[kind helm]

yea

[fluid ravine]

Gummy oring is easy yeah but only easy if yknow how to do it correctly

[fluid ravine]

Yeah absolutely

[kind helm]

i think when eric was doing his build he was using the pad on alumeh

[runic spoke]

Lol you’d like my case for the wooting then

[stray pawn]

Do you know what the stock 60he comes with? That's what I'm using rn

[fluid ravine]

Any 60% universal cases that have been commonly used with the wooting will 100% work

So de abt that

[steep raft]

Stock L60 on the 60HE are 40 initial, 60 bottom out.

[fluid ravine]

L60 v1.5

If you have a older 60he then v1

Even though they're not that big of a difference

[late solstice]

How much is a 70 pack of Raw HEs?

[steep raft]

This is very comparable to Cherry MX Reds which actuate at 45g and bottom out at 60

[runic spoke]

I remeber buying 80 for like 35 usd on kbdfans

[fluid ravine]

$33.6

. 48*70

[late solstice]

Not bad

[runic spoke]

Ofc shipping + tax u get scammed

[steep raft]

What case do you have? Post a link or picture

[stray pawn]

it was from december 2022

[fluid ravine]

Lekker 60 v1 then

[runic spoke]

At work thats the only pic i got lol

Just google holy60

[steep raft]

Clean

[stray pawn]

cheers

[fluid ravine]

Yup

[runic spoke]

Its lightweight compared to other cases

[fluid ravine]

Love the way holy60 looks but hate the sound acoustic properties of it

[late solstice]

Is anyone rocking blue tofu with blue magnetic wave keycaps? I’d like to see

[fluid ravine]

[runic spoke]

The acoustics are great except for the top right buttons

[fluid ravine]

Specific questions ay?

[kind helm]

the spacebar of holy60 is really interesting

[runic spoke]

Hoping the o ring will help with that a little

[fluid ravine]

Just gotta imagine hehh

[steep raft]

Mine is a bit of a chonker ADK64

[late solstice]

Literally lol

[runic spoke]

In what way lol

It sounds massively different though I’ll tell you that

[fluid ravine]

Thud

[runic spoke]

Kind of enjoyable though

[stray pawn]

Are ceramic keycaps any good? I feel like theyd sound great but wouldn't feel too good after like an hour of using

[runic spoke]

Pretty cool

[fluid ravine]

https://tenor.com/view/trash-can-gif-8489844925274334788

Lekker v1 with holy60

[kind helm]

lekker v1 and holy60* 👀

[fluid ravine]

@quiet bay

[fluid ravine]

Oh mb u right

[kind helm]

it does look amazing though

[fluid ravine]

Well I can't hate on holy60 too much

[quiet bay]

nahh you get used to the slick feeling

[fluid ravine]

Indeed

[quiet bay]

it's not that slippery

[fluid ravine]

My nickname on my vb team is ur name btw pochi lul

[stray pawn]

you got Cerakey or a diff brand?

[quiet bay]

WOT

[fluid ravine]

She got cerakeys

[quiet bay]

how did that happen

[runic spoke]

Lol if you forget backslash and backspace the whole keyboard sounds chef’s kiss bro. I have raw he’s and not lekkers tho

[kind helm]

my friend runs this thing and i personally think it looks hot af

[fluid ravine]

My setter has the same name as me and they address him more so I get confused

[quiet bay]

LMAO

[fluid ravine]

Raws ftw

[fluid ravine]

This lit

Oh hey Alex

[exotic inlet]

I like it everytime I see that case

[fluid ravine]

Been a while

[quiet bay]

i love transparent keycaps

[stray pawn]

Does Cerakey not have a 60% set? I can only find a full size

[quiet bay]

fully transparent ones

[quiet bay]

they dont but u can mix and match

[exotic inlet]

Me?

[stray pawn]

?

[quiet bay]

they have split sets

[fluid ravine]

Yea

[stray pawn]

i see

[kind helm]

i just cant use it because i value sound a lot, and with a tray mount like i know there are a lot of janky things that need to happen in order to make it sound the way i like

[quiet bay]

all you need is a and b set

[fluid ravine]

Ermmm mustard cable

I should not be talking LMFAO

[quiet bay]

i was about to say

[exotic inlet]

I have been lurking these days but not too many days without typing lol

[runic spoke]

Im also mustard cable gang right now in my full white build lol

[fluid ravine]

Shhhh

I need a new cable I swear

Almost 2 years with this mustard cable

I cannot be doing this

[quiet bay]

cant u technically make one 🤔

I looked at wired in

they have parts

to make one

[fluid ravine]

Yeah but I ain't spending all that tbh

[kind helm]

the kbdfan one me like, i think 40 buckies after shipping (edit: through kbdfans ali store)

[stray pawn]

@quiet bay this is kinda specific but how are the keycaps with cold temperatures? Do they get like freezing

[quiet bay]

ngl it's actually pretty inexpensive

[fluid ravine]

Yeah but nrn ✋😌

[runic spoke]

Real way is to find a good one on aliexpress

[quiet bay]

well ofc cold temperature would transfer to anything

but if u just use them for a bit they'll get warmer

[stray pawn]

i mean like especially temperature conductive

[pulsar schooner]

Optimum 80he colab when tho

[fluid ravine]

That's interesting

[quiet bay]

initial touch yes it will be cold but overtime use will make it warmer

[fluid ravine]

Just get the key caps lmfao

Put it on raw

Lol

[quiet bay]

now that I think about it I kinda wanna make my own cable

[stray pawn]

can i see your keyboard? im kinda on the edge about them rn

[fluid ravine]

I want a BooBs cable

[lethal nebula]

Hi, for using a wooting HE for more than a year, i just wanna say thanks, the keyboard is exacxtly what it says to be, with it i became the fastest street racer ever seen in the streets of los santos, and i cant be thankfull enough to be the best in the world at something thanks to a keyboard as good as i'm a driver

[exotic inlet]

Are there no silvery keycaps but made of plastic?

[pulsar schooner]

Grey 80he with the chrome accents would be sick

[fluid ravine]

Ah

[quiet bay]

uh lemme find past pictures rq

[stray pawn]

wait woah thats sick

how's the space bar feel? i would think itd be heavy af

[quiet bay]

Its heavy itself but not heavy on press

[kind helm]

oh you that lady with the thocky keyboard that won the whatever competition for wooting over arcskyo

[quiet bay]

what matters is the spring

[quiet bay]

yis

[stray pawn]

what case is that?

[quiet bay]

it's just a klippe t case with vinyl wrap on it

but once owlabs collab case drops im copping it so quickly

[stray pawn]

wrap?

[quiet bay]

ye

[kind helm]

what case is that, i kinda dig the black piece there

[quiet bay]

some parts

[quiet bay]

it's a white klippe t with matte black vinyl on it

black piece not part of it

just diy thing

cause didn't see anyone ever do it

[kind helm]

ah

special~

[stray pawn]

you think Cerakey would look good with the optimum case?

[quiet bay]

like white yeah

[stray pawn]

isnt it gray?

[quiet bay]

I can honestly only see white keycaps on it lol

[quiet bay]

yes the case is grey

but black cerakeys would be too

dark

yk

would look a bit funky

[stray pawn]

perhaps

[quiet bay]

actually I mean

it might fit

white or black

but I think white fits better

wait black does look a lil clean now that I think about it

[stray pawn]

you think only a solid one color?

[quiet bay]

could look smth like this

[stray pawn]

wait i kinda dont like that

[quiet bay]

lmao

[stray pawn]

well thanks for the help

im gonna go research a bit

[quiet bay]

gl 👍

[spice plover]

i would have ordered the case but i aint waiting 2 months

[exotic inlet]

I will probably paint on some keys these days to make some accent keys

[stray pawn]

@quiet bay sorry for the ping, would i be able to just buy the A set and H+J for a 60he?

if its blank i could use the extra function keys for esc and such

[quiet bay]

uhh no cause then you'd be missing a lot of keys

[stray pawn]

which ones?

[quiet bay]

most of the modifier keys

[stray pawn]

it has shift ctrl and space?

[late solstice]

Does the PC switch plate make a noticeable difference?

[kind helm]

yes

[quiet bay]

ok so like

your keys on the bottom right

they are 1.25u to fit right

the kit doesn't have any of that

[stray pawn]

ah.

[quiet bay]

and even then

[stray pawn]

:(

[quiet bay]

the h set keycaps is meant to be on the bottom most row

because it's a split keycap set

so it will feel a bit funky on other rows

[stray pawn]

what am i gonna do with all my spare function keys lol

[quiet bay]

uhh u kinda just keep them

• you'd also be missing the backspace

[kind helm]

you need a lot of containers the deeper you go into this hobby

we hate the environment here

[stray pawn]

lmao

ive just been rocking the straight stock experience for two years

so i figure its about time

[quiet bay]

damn

My stock experience lasted 5 seconds

[kind helm]

it is more than about time, way overdue

[kind helm]

same

[stray pawn]

i atleast lubed all the switches lol 🤷‍♂️

the stock wasnt terrible

[quiet bay]

that's good considering how ass the lekkers were

oh

[kind helm]

comparable to 40$ "gaming" keyboards

[stray pawn]

^

[quiet bay]

only one mod to save all the v1s...switch tape mod

wow haven't typed that in a long time

[stray pawn]

i was on like a stock razer keyboard before sooooo 😅

[quiet bay]

switch tape mod

[kind helm]

that is one surgery for every switch

[quiet bay]

quite literally so

saving a lekker each time

[stray pawn]

just to like confirm, cerakeys are compatible with lekker and such right?

[tropic urchin]

https://tenor.com/view/rip-coffin-black-ghana-celebrating-gif-16743302

[quiet bay]

ofc

[late solstice]

Will the friction pad be available separately?

[stray pawn]

i gotta ask the dumb questions so im not dumb later

[quiet bay]

everyone starts somewhere

[tropic urchin]

You’ll probably need to rock heavier springs, but lekkers should be compatible

[stray pawn]

think i should go with the tofu redux or optimum case?

[kind helm]

if you are new to modding and have the money, optimum maybe better for you

[stray pawn]

it looks very heavy and i like that, just not the biggest fan of the gray...

[kind helm]

yee, that keyboard looks like depression to me

[tropic urchin]

I couldn’t put my finger on it, but the grey reminds me of this 😭🤣

It’s the keyboard equivalent of the Eastern European apartment blocs

[kind helm]

i used to run my setup black and white, until i was feeling colorful one day, now i only run pastel colors.

just makes the space feel homey

[quiet bay]

me with a black and white setup rn

[kind helm]

i mean it looks cool, especially with that desk mat.

https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/_sRj0Jl6dkDF8JuzFb2YUbk44AAE25Z_QDm5JsoZWPE/https/media.tenor.com/-VntKaFnr_IAAAPo/preference-glarses.mp4

[jaunty ruin]

even jade max feel good now?

[robust bluff]

I cant believe wooting released that optimum case after i just bought alumaze last week LMFAO

[kind helm]

spring

[kind helm]

alumeh alumazing

[robust bluff]

Im still ordering things to make it better damn it

[quiet bay]

oh i literally just realized how old a picture that was, now i just have a blank black deskmat lmao

[robust bluff]

[jaunty ruin]

yes josh i can read im just aksing if the jade max have been fixed

as in do they feel good now

[quiet bay]

was going of a more clean look

[tropic urchin]

they havent revised the switches afaik

id just get the jade pros if you're looking for a gateron switch @jaunty ruin

[kind helm]

nah, just he was just talking the spring, he suffered with max too

[jaunty ruin]

yh that was my original idea aswell

[jaunty ruin]

LOL

[robust bluff]

But its not so bad @kind helm i kinda need that slight angle elevation but man still, that sound just makes me 😩

[kind helm]

i will not say what is on my mind to hurt your feelings. at least its really wooting, got that style going for it

[jaunty ruin]

should i get 70 pack or 90 pack

im considering getting a 80he, currently have a 60he

[robust bluff]

Gotta make it work

[kind helm]

70 for 60he i think is good

[jaunty ruin]

but if i get the 77.5he

then what

will i be fucked

[kind helm]

nah it can sound good for sure, it is just not as flexible in terms of the sound you can achieve i think, or to achieve a certain sound it needs to be slightly more janky

[kind helm]

i am biased i personally dislike the 80he

i dont even know how many keys that thing has

[robust bluff]

Yeah, right now i just ordered some tape and pe foams jahahaha

And some lubed

[kind helm]

i love how many times mr. calder talks about nuts in the factory tour, my 12 years old self cant contain himself

[stray pawn]

is the optimum stock already out? it says i have a backorder :(

[flat cobalt]

You getting that optimum case @cold bloom

[cold bloom]

prob not personally, I wanna wait for the frog mini leggera to go on sale for NA

[kind helm]

any idea when, i tried to look around a bit on their channel but only found info about the tkl one

[cold bloom]

I haven't heard much lately, I think last I heard was in the new year but hopefully there will be an update soon. Geon did stream on YT recently with the leggera in the title/thumbnail but I didn't watch it all, I didn't see anything obvious when I quickly browsed it tho.

[knotty iron]

84 ANSI,
85 ISO,
88 JIS

[short shell]

anyone know an good keycaps to use with optimum case?(not the original one)

something like this

[short shell]

they got sold out

if someone know one are like the same?

[uneven cradle]

Any dolch set would work

[cold bloom]

https://www.deskhero.ca/products/gmk-oblivion-v3-1-keycaps

these would go hard

[uneven cradle]

Can't wait for evil dolch to come in

[cold bloom]

same

[short shell]

i think i prefer with no colors

[short shell]

where i can find it?

[midnight crown]

hi guys, never touched my wooting60he since i got it, looking to get optimums new case ( not with the keycaps because they're the wrong layout ) can anyone suggest some nice looking keycaps my layout is "ISO"

[uneven cradle]

There's lot of different versions but like this
https://drop.com/buy/drop-dcx-dolch-keycap-set#signupv2

Kbdfans have a set also but it's out of stock atm

[short shell]

99 its too expensive for me

around 40

or under

[uneven cradle]

Where abouts are you located probably want somewhere not too far away to bring down shipping costs

[short shell]

brazil💀

[uneven cradle]

Oh yeah that's gonna be tough

[static tendon]

Anyone excited for the Optimum case?

[short shell]

i probally gonna buy today my wooting but i gonna get it only in jan 20 😔

[fluid ravine]

Someone fact check me

Is tofu redux 7 degrees

[fluid ravine]

Heh same

Black white and grey

Only thing to make it colorful is the wall paper 😭

[stone flax]

asa profile

?

are you looking for colorway or profile

[short shell]

what the type on apex 9?

[short shell]

the color

[stone flax]

oh okie

[stone flax]

any grey set with dark mods basically? Hmmmm

modo

[short shell]

i saw this one but its expensive to me

[quiet bay]

nah my wallpaper is black 😭

[stone flax]

;0

[exotic inlet]

Is that a standing desk?

[quiet bay]

ok might be time for me to get windows huh

[short shell]

its 99 for me its 200💀

cause of taxes

[stone flax]

where are u

[short shell]

brazil

[stone flax]

https://www.alexotos.com/keyboard-vendor-list/

might find an easier time finding brazil vendors

[late solstice]

Are the Optimum keycaps dye-sublimated?

[static tendon]

Yes

[short shell]

@the nearst i found is this here https://www.simplagamer.com.br/keycaps-pbt-preto-e-cinza-108-pecas/

[fluid ravine]

Yessir

Tempered glass standing desk

[fluid ravine]

Thanks

[exotic inlet]

Is it worth it? I've been planning for a time buying one

[static tendon]

Just in case, here is KBDfans website too

[fluid ravine]

Honestly it's great esp after a long session of sitting down of gaming or work.

You still become productive while standing and all that

But my tip when buying a standing desk
Search up cable management guides esp having a power surge outlet mounted under the desk

And buy a wooden standing desk
Don't buy glass xd

[exotic inlet]

That wouldn't be a problem, I would use my current wooden board

Which also has a cable management basket underneath it

[fluid ravine]

Oh right there's legs being sold with all the features and shi I forgot

[static tendon]

If you also get a standing desk, it's wise to have your PC on your desk or mounted under the desk. This helps clean up cable clutter since the cables move along with the desk. If the PC is off to the side and not on the desk, you'll need to leave much more slack causing a more cluttered looking setup

[exotic inlet]

Exactly

[fluid ravine]

This right here

[exotic inlet]

I have it on the desk right now

[static tendon]

I also have a standing desk, my PC is not on the desk since it's too large but man my cables are crazy right now

I'm going to mount it under the desk eventually and clean it all up

[stone flax]

oh wowie

thats not good

[exotic inlet]

it would be much better ofc

[stone flax]

uhhhhh

how are we on clones @short shell

https://ae-pic-a1.aliexpress-media.com/kf/S0ced06451ac34ae38a0ab2682efabf398.jpg_640x640.jpg_.webp

[harsh dove]

@fluid ravine you gonna have a package coming soon

[fluid ravine]

Wait is it the Opt case from Counter?

[harsh dove]

Yeah

[exotic inlet]

Oh my god that's a nightmare

[static tendon]

@exotic inlet here is what I was working with

[fluid ravine]

@paper bloom thanks man

[fluid ravine]

Thanks CAM

[harsh dove]

Yessir

[exotic inlet]

Urge to cable manage all that clutter lol

[fluid ravine]

That would feed me for the next week

[fluid ravine]

Yknow what at that point I finna just leave it alone man 😭

[static tendon]

It’s been improved since then though

[fluid ravine]

No chance in hell am I redoing all that

[fluid ravine]

Oh fukkk

[exotic inlet]

Now that is sexy looking

👌

[fluid ravine]

You still got my address and everything?

[harsh dove]

Yeah

[fluid ravine]

Sickkk

Is it also possible to transfer like orders to another account like mid transit or wtv

[harsh dove]

I’d have to check

[static tendon]

Hey @harsh dove! How's it going? You gonna get the Optimum case?

[harsh dove]

Going good, thanks
Yeah I got one

[static tendon]

Nice! Tempting to pick one up ngl

[mystic drift]

For the wooting x optimum case collab, can someone point me where in the wooting hub i can get the discount code? I actually just recently purchased my module last month.

[harsh dove]

Go to My Account > My Rewards

[mystic drift]

Sweet thanks boss!

im blind af

[harsh dove]

No worries

Yes

[static tendon]

It should be the same process

[drowsy meteor]

Ooo that’s clean what arm is that?

[potent wedge]

Does the new geon raw he need to be lubed?

[static tendon]

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0779JSRH5/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1 - Monitor Arm by Wali

[drowsy meteor]

Oh sorry I meant on the mic?

[static tendon]

Oh, using the following:

Behringer U-Phoria UMC22 (Audio interface to power the mic) - https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00FFIGZF6/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Audio-Technica AT2020 (Mic) - https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0006H92QK/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&th=1
Elgato Wave Mic Arm LP (Mic Arm) - https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B097376LKF/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&th=1

[drowsy meteor]

Oh I see cool thanks

[static tendon]

Happy to help, been using this audio setup for a while, it's been perfect for me

[spark totem]

Do I need to take out all switches when cleaning the white stab foam pads?

[static tendon]

I believe you can take out the PCB, unscrew the parts holding the plate/PCB and just take it apart without having to remove each switch individually

Sort of like this if I'm understanding correctly

[spark totem]

Yup I did it last time just wanted to make sure! Thank you!

Also nice keycaps I had those on my one 2 mini and the hammerheads(?) on my 60he as well

[fluid ravine]

For anyone that is needing to know, yes you can friction mount the pad with screw ins stabilizers unlike the gummy o'ring where you have to use clip ins.

[dapper stone]

so im a keyboard modding newbie and I'm not sure if this is even the right channel to ask, but I'm having a little trouble figuring out what to get lol. I currently have a basic 60HE with no customizations and am looking to customize the case, keys, and possibly the switches. What I'm wondering is, do/should I get the new 60HE+ module along with a new case and keys? I'm not even 100% sure what it does and I'm feeling lost lol.

[stone flax]

what do you not like about ur current board

also why do u feel u need two boards wheres ones customized and the other not :v

[fluid ravine]

Ok two sides of purchasing and customizing a Wooting 60HE, on the website, you would either choose to buy a prebuilt where it has everything like switches, keycaps, case, etc. Then on the other hand, there's the module. The module only comes with the PCB, plate foam/pads, and plate, which means you would have to buy your own case, switches, and keycaps to fully customize and build your keyboard. This is best recommended only if you know what to buy.

If you already have the prebuilt which seems to be what im reading and you would like to upgrade the parts, you can purchase those items that you would like to upgrade separately without having to buy another Wooting 60HE or module.

[stone flax]

i mean what is lost on the non + other than the platemount

[fluid ravine]

yeah

[dapper stone]

i might've worded it poorly, i'm not aiming to get a new board, just make it look cool lol

i got my og 60he a year ago and haven't changed anything

[stone flax]

i mean this part here u include getting a module

getting a new module and case and keycaps

right next to ur old one

is a whole board

[dapper stone]

LOL

[stone flax]

the module includes a pcb

;c

[dapper stone]

yea i know nothing and didn't realize what that was

[stone flax]

yeahh module is plate+pcb+stabs+dampening

So getting that plus keycaps plus case

[dapper stone]

so if i already have a 60he, theres no reason to get a new module

[stone flax]

means ur switches away from a new board entirely

[stone flax]

xd yeah lol

[uneven cradle]

Unless you want another 60he 👀

[stone flax]

yeah which is why i asked if u wanted a second board entirely

[dapper stone]

mmmm

i mean probably not right?? is there a difference

i know it gives support for screw in stabilizers but im not sure what that is

[ionic breach]

What you have right now is plate stabs

[stone flax]

wait when did u get this wooting?

[ionic breach]

the 60he+ has screw in stab support

[stone flax]

dyk if u have a 60he or 60he+

[dapper stone]

last december/xmas

2023

60he

[ionic breach]

the 60he+ module had screw in stabs period

[dapper stone]

so plate stabs vs screw in. what's the difference?

[stone flax]

60he+ has cuts in the holes in the pcb allowing for pcb-mounted stabilizers (clip-ins/screw-ins) which are now the defacto stab found in both he+ modules and prebuilts

terms of difference its just mounting

plate mounts snap into the plate and are held in by tension

[dapper stone]

i understand it now

[stone flax]

screw ins are kept onto the pcb by hooking into holes found in the pcb and are then secured by threading a screw

[dapper tartan]

Are there any mods people highly recommend for the 80he?

[dapper stone]

so in conclusion, if i've got my og 60he, and just want to change the look, i just need to get keys and a case?

[stone flax]

yep

maybe you can change the plate for another plate-mount one

if you dont fancy the steel

switches too can noticeably change look to a small extent, particularly based on housing and the way/extent they allow for shinethrough aswell if thats ur thing

[dapper stone]

yea i was planning on upgrading to new switches as well

[stone flax]

such as non-clear housings slightly shifting the color of the rgb and diffusers affecting the way light is spread

but case/caps are ofc the most noticeable aesthetics you can change

uwu

[dapper stone]

but about the plate, ik the steel comes as the default, and from what i've seen so far it seems like the pcplate is a good option. if i get this, i would swap the steel with the pc plate?

[quiet bay]

Oh hey so I was right

said something about how friction pad probably fit stabs better than gummy o ring

[stone flax]

yep but dont feel like pc and steel is the only material out there, theres tons!

experimenting with plate material can be a fun way to sink further into this hole

[quiet bay]

yeah wooting more plate materials when >:v

[stone flax]

fr T-T

i love my pp plate

[quiet bay]

yoo

[stone flax]

……

[quiet bay]

so u want them to make it too

[quiet bay]

wait not like that

[stone flax]

polypropylene

pp = polypropylene

not

….

[dapper stone]

so changing the plate changes the feel/sound

[quiet bay]

yes yes ik

I mean "yoo" as in "heyy you want them to make pp plate too!?"

[stone flax]

XD

yessss

All the plates

[quiet bay]

i have pc plate rn but I need more life but thocc at the same time

[stone flax]

plastics are weird

just gotta try em all

[dapper stone]

cool cool

ik its not necessary now, but with the 60he+ module, i saw it included pads as well, one foam one silicone. do i need to worry about a "pad" or anything like that

idk if that makes sense

basically i'm changing case, keys, switches, potentially plate now. is there anything else?

[stone flax]

those parts of the module you can buy seperately

https://wooting.io/product/60he-pc-switch-plate?

included alongside a pc plate

[dapper stone]

oh duh i literally have that pulled up and didn't read

[dapper stone]

you my friend are the clutch master tysm

[stone flax]

yeayea

:3

[untold wigeon]

Pom

[quiet bay]

Pom cool but I like PP plate more ngl

based on sound tests on yt

its like poppier but also still low pitched

[paper bloom]

Is cool

[uneven cradle]

PP plate like the best of both worlds sound of alu with feeling of PC

[polar girder]

https://drop.com/buy/keysme-aim04-he-magnetic-switch-gaming-keyboard

This just gave me schizophrenia

😵‍💫

[dapper tartan]

😂 It has fidgetspinners attached to the case

Also, there's so much on the keys that my eyes have a hard time staying in one spot

[frosty storm]

i want to make a custom 80he for my gf , is there any site where i can buy a red case ☝🏼😅

[kind helm]

not now

[dapper tartan]

I was looking for custom cases as well. Would love to know if you find any

[kind helm]

maybe you can try to paint in somehow, i dont know what should be the correct way of doing that though, but probably would make it special for the lady

[frosty storm]

spray paint yuh why not but im not rlly good at that 🤣

i will wait i guess

ty for the answer anyway 👍🏼

[uneven cradle]

There are no third party cases for 80HE at the moment

[dapper tartan]

That's what I reckoned, but I meant also if they find one in the future. For now I'm really liking the pcr case anyways!

[cedar gate]

Any tests?

[dapper tartan]

Anyone have experience with dual stage springs? (Like on the black knights) I wonder what effect a spring like that gives to a switch.

[deft wing]

Omg

It's already sold out

Dang should've just checked out

[quiet bay]

pretty unpopular plate, would have to search up yt videos on it

it is kinda new

[quiet bay]

if it's like this for owlabs collab case I hope it doesn't drop when im in school 🙏

[stray pawn]

How many switches do I need to order to replace all of the stock ones?

[quiet bay]

what wooting do u have

[stray pawn]

60he

[quiet bay]

61 switches for ansi

[quiet bay]

uhh I think iso has 62 or 63 switches?

I would get a few extra switches anyways just in case

so like get 65 switches

[quiet bay]

woah which one

[stone flax]

medyum

[quiet bay]

the new one they released/

?

the uhh

ulx competition

i think

[deft wing]

Same man same. I was getting ready for class jn

I was like i'll checkout when I arrive

Gaddang it sold out already

[quiet bay]

i wonder how many units they sold

[stray pawn]

@quiet bay did you have any issues with quality control on Cerakeys? I was looking into them after seeing yours earlier and it seems a lot of people are complaining about them not sitting right, size differences, and bad fit

[deft wing]

After months of waiting

[quiet bay]

only like a couple keycaps had scratches on them

but emailed them

and they sent replacements for free

[stone flax]

yesh

[deft wing]

It goes poof

[quiet bay]

but it's really up to you to notice what's wrong

but ye the stem placement isn't like

super straight

but it's not too noticeable for most

[quiet bay]

oooh nice

[stray pawn]

Are the PBT keycaps with optimum decent? Sound and feel wise

[quiet bay]

I dont see myself ever getting one tho

[quiet bay]

well noone rlly has it yet but I'd assume they feel like normal pbt keycaps

[quiet bay]

I would def throw the mouse on accident

[stray pawn]

are the stock 60he pbt?

[quiet bay]

200 dollar mouse scratched instantly 😂

[deft wing]

No idea. I just like the aesthetic

[quiet bay]

yeah

[deft wing]

More or less like my current one

[stone flax]

a blend ya

[stray pawn]

i like the blank legends a lot but all of it gray isnt very exciting :(

[deft wing]

Early production version was nice

Gradient keycaps

[stray pawn]

they dropped those?

[deft wing]

And gradient backplate

[deft wing]

Nope

[stray pawn]

i mean like they arent doing them,

[deft wing]

Pre production ones i mean

[stray pawn]

thats unfortunate i woulda really liked a gradient

[deft wing]

Nah they finalized with the same tone keycaps and backplate

[deft wing]

Me too fam

You can check his videos a few months back where he showed it

IIRC it's harder to make it consistent

The gradient i mean

[strange rune]

Hey guys just ordered my first wooting! I have been in the fps game for awhile now and built loads of custom keebs but this is my first time with a hall effect keeb

I purchased the gateron jades with the optimum tech setup and was wondering how the switches are out of the box and if there is any differences when lubing them vs traditional switches!

thx!

[stray pawn]

dang that is kinda nice

[harsh dove]

https://youtu.be/WN_-GYLTfpY?si=NIBGQFjbiIb19-Ln

https://youtu.be/wYACSlhQg9E?si=Ar1i4RsWGsp570gL

[fluid ravine]

am i imagining this or what

didnt we just talk about the accent piece about it being a diff color or smth 😭

or is this edited

[arctic gust]

will the friction pad get added to the 80he?

i almost canceled my order just for that

[harsh dove]

I would say no, as the 80HE has a different mounting system entirely

[harsh dove]

Think that was just a pre-production sample iirc

[fluid ravine]

ah

well that would be sick if they actually DO sell other accent variants

;)

[harsh dove]

Yeah idk if they will or not

[spice plover]

anyone here with a wooting friction pad willing to sell it for 120$ let me know ill sign NDA if needed idc about making videos

[stone flax]

[calm pulsar]

💀

buy an oring

[cedar gate]

...

Dude

That'd actually insane

[cedar gate]

Go to cannonkeys get a bakeneko 60 for 5$ you'll get the same thing

[spice plover]

ur so fucking goated

[spice plover]

idk i remember trying to gasket mount within my salvage case or w.e but had to do some weird cutouts on the plate which i didnt want to do so im thinking this is the exact same thing

[cedar gate]

I know 😎

[cedar gate]

On wooting with the right size o ring you don't need too

[stone flax]

………

umm TwT

why

[cedar gate]

Get a bakeneko 60 o ring the hardness is preferance

[spice plover]

am i tripping out??? im looking at the friction fit pad and what is the point of it at all? like literally how will it make any key presses softer its literally just sound dampening right?

[cedar gate]

LOL

[deft wing]

Optimum case restock WHEN

[cedar gate]

That's not how it works

Instead of screws in a traditional wooting it is mounted with only friction

An o ring achieves the same purpose

For 5$ plus a lot of shipping

Won't be 120 tho 🤣

[stone flax]

think of it as a silicone pad + gummy o-ring

all in one

[cedar gate]

Yeah basically

[spice plover]

so the only difference is you wont need to screw it in anymore it will just be easier to disesemble and reasemble?

[cedar gate]

Ngl I lowkey don't like the silicone sound

[cedar gate]

No the typing feel is different

Not wobbly or shakey but feels softer and bouncer when you type

[spice plover]

look at the design though thats probably bullshit

[cedar gate]

Where you seriously about to spend 120$ on something when you have no clue what it does 🤣🤣

[cedar gate]

No its fr

The bounce of friction mount is definitely real

[unreal oracle]

does anyone have jade pro switches on their 80he and how does it affect the RGB?

[cedar gate]

I have the regular jades it tints it slightly green

Nothing you will notice

[unreal oracle]

jade pros are really cheap rn on aliexpress but idk if i wanna do geon raws or jade pros

[cedar gate]

Raws for sure

Imo

I would listen to sound tests to see what you like

I used to use jades now I use raws

[stone flax]

removal of screwing into tray mount points means you remove the introduction of uneven stiffness and sound inconsistencies that stem from well… screwing into those specific traymount points…., depending on the actual stiffness of the friction fit material it can serve to introduce a softer or stiffer feel thats more evenly distributed as well as achieving bounce as the pcb/plate can literally be pushed down as they hover above the bottom case

[cedar gate]

This explains it very well

Tray mount can lead to inconsistent sound because of screw placement definitely

Friction mount doesn't have that issue

[stone flax]

ya

little bit more bouncy

bit more consistent

[icy dome]

which switches are objectively better between that lekker 45 v2 and magnetic jades?

[spice plover]

looking at the optimum tech video its beteen the PCB plate + PCB if it was at the very bottom under the PCB itself it would make sense but between these 2 i doubt it will do anything??

[stone flax]

okay

well no

the point of the a friction mount is that wraps the pcb and plate to suspend those

[spice plover]

if it was under the PCB it would make sense every keypress is the only thing that would put some sort of force on it?

[stone flax]

If its below the pcb

it does nothing

its literally just a silicone pad man

What would hold the pcb/plate/switches

onto the case

the mounting style would no longer mount

[spice plover]

i kno man but when im thinking about it its perfectly cut out where the key presses are whichh are the only thing that will influence the bounce or w.e it would have to be something that is under the actual force of the key press to have any bounce or softness

[robust siren]

geon raw he

[glacial wind]

https://tenor.com/view/good-luck-three-finger-salute-katniss-everdeen-the-hunger-games-hunger-games-gif-4720290277649947168

[quasi hinge]

Geon Raw

[icy dome]

so wooting's switches arent the best in the game rn?

[glacial wind]

Nah, they’re okay for cheap stock switches but most wouldn’t call them best

[icy dome]

alr so im assuming geon raw is the best high performance rn?

[robust siren]

switches mainly effect 2 things (for he)

sound and wobble

[glacial wind]

Ttc magneto rgb probably the technical best but you give up smoother feeling and press for a tighter box stem design

[spice plover]

god bless those fingees

[glacial wind]

That and they sound worse

[icy dome]

what are the fastest switches on the market then?

[glacial wind]

So you kind of have to pick what’s important to you

[glacial wind]

No such thing

they’re all fast

[robust siren]

switches doesnt effect keyboard input deplays

[icy dome]

is it all at 0.1mm?

i meant by shortest actuation

[robust siren]

yes, actuation is set by the software

[glacial wind]

there’s differences in stability of the switches leading to slight deadzone differences at the bottom but they all are fast

[icy dome]

alr

so im on stock l45 switches should i look to upgrade? or is it just preference

[glacial wind]

It’s up to you. Most prefer something like raw he/jade pro for better tightness and sound

Ttc magneto rgb is option too if you want the absolute tightest switch

But it’s box stem leading to less nice feel when pressing in

[icy dome]

alright thanks

[robust siren]

(also the worst sounding one stock)

[icy dome]

im lowkey sick of this stock 60he sound

[cedar gate]

There is no objective in keyboard modding lol

[icy dome]

true

[robust siren]

the l45 and jades sound very different too

cause lekkers are open bottom and jades are closed (more “thock” but hollow vs more clacky)

[cedar gate]

Switches don't affect performance

Except for spring weight

[icy dome]

is lighter better?

[cedar gate]

Depends on what you like

Lighter is faster but easier to misclick

I think the sweet spot is 50 grams

[icy dome]

alr

[glacial wind]

Don’t say faster you’re going to confuse him

[fluid ravine]

"stonewashed church" 😭 what the flip jed

what's the context behind the name

[robust siren]

stafe also has it

[glacial wind]

We will plant seeds of faith until the 80he stonewashed edition is released

[fluid ravine]

ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

haha bet

[urban harbor]

thats nice

[fluid ravine]

oh wtf i missed this

[dry fox]

Lol forgot to checkout this morning when I saw the optimum case this AM now it’s backordered into January

[urban harbor]

similar to my mr. suit's weight

[fluid ravine]

it's giving csgo where you would like a get a rare knife or wtv (i dont know shit about the crates or wtv but i saw a video about some knife with that color way)

[fluid ravine]

rip

early jan?

hopefully?

[deft wing]

Dang

[fluid ravine]

got a pic?

curious

[deft wing]

Might be due to my luck running out after getting a free cs knife worth 400 bucks this morning lmao

[fluid ravine]

holeh

[deft wing]

one of those daily cases dropped me a marble fade gut lmao

[cedar gate]

It's hard lol

[urban harbor]

i can't get a good pic in the lighting i have but this is the idea

[fluid ravine]

oh that's nice

[deft wing]

upgraded to talon stained mw worth 400 bucks. gonna sell it to fund for KEEEEEEEEEBS

[fluid ravine]

haha Mr. Suit

fun

[cedar gate]

Idk how you guys explained this stuff to me when I was new lol

[fluid ravine]

whatcha trying to explain

[cedar gate]

How some switches aren't faster or better than others

[calm pulsar]

rgb weight

[cedar gate]

And I may have misplaced that less spring weight means faster

[cedar gate]

Razer rgb gaming weight

[fluid ravine]

oh i hate talking about this, every time we make a discussion it turns into like a controversy or like a full blown "argument"

or smth

[kind helm]

do you mind explaining that a bit 0.0? i do hear people talk about box stem being a bad design but i didn't really get the reason for that

[glacial wind]

Box stem means more stem to rub and feel against the side of the housing as you press in

[fluid ravine]

it's just stupid, i think we should think about that topic more simply rather than so complex to the point where it seems like smth to cope about

but that's what i would think everytime i look back at the topic

[cedar gate]

"Idc about that which switch will make me a better gamer"

[fluid ravine]

fr 😭

[kind helm]

in the short time that i started to enjoy this channel, i have learned to ignore certain type of... things :3 probably best that way

[fluid ravine]

well sometimes we can get caught in the crossfire

unfortunately

[cedar gate]

Ig we have to excuse it because their just new and don't fully understand the concept lol a few months ago I was like that

[fluid ravine]

lol yeah

unless they make the assumption first and try to prove why their right

[kind helm]

ahh, ic. the extra contact that happens when bottom out, the top part rubs against the top housing, is that it?

[fluid ravine]

not saying that they shouldn't but it feels aggressive sometimes heh-

[kind helm]

i thought the box was more of a way to help with the wobble when bottom out

[glacial wind]

Yeah, you can feel that especially at the initial press and it doesn’t feel that nice usually

[kind helm]

ty sir

[glacial wind]

It’s all a bit tricky because you have to try explain things to beginners nicely too because yelling at them and saying they’re dumb doesn’t help

[kind helm]

the way i see it there is only certain messages that are worth reading, and there are only certain people worth helping

[fluid ravine]

yeah this as well i completely agree

[fluid ravine]

i only help the certain people if i do know about the things they are asking

if they ask me about software, then don't count on me lmao

[calm pulsar]

just checked 7800x3d vs 9800x3d in tarkov... damn that's a huge difference

[glacial wind]

I had a whole conversation with mj recently about how he comes off like a dick even if he’s giving good advice because he starts every conversation off implying everyone is stupid. It’s why he’s on his new uwu arc lol

[fluid ravine]

haha interesante

[robust siren]

oh thats why

[dry fox]

Yeah almost don’t care now lol - ah I remember why I forgot to checkout now. I think it said in the optimum video there was a 15% off in wooting hub for existing owners of the 60HE

Didn’t see it

[spice plover]

careful picking switches if you game a lot of work and game depending on ur WPM or APM. I highly discourage using jades unless ur a IRL keyboard soundwhore

atleast those RAW HEs

[glacial wind]

gothikx just has an issue with shorter travel switches due to his personal technique

[fluid ravine]

huh

[calm pulsar]

"soundwhore" bro you're insane

[spice plover]

LMAO

[calm pulsar]

its a keyboard modding channel where people care for sound and feel

[fluid ravine]

alright bro-

wtf

[kind helm]

i block that dude, hurts my head when i read his words

[spice plover]

im just trying to save a new guys fingees

[fluid ravine]

is it just me or do i think that it's just a you problem-

[calm pulsar]

raw he derangement syndrom

[fluid ravine]

likeee

[fluid ravine]

fr

[spice plover]

lol w.e its not a big deal just making him aware

[kind helm]

shhh we dont want to bully the person that is talking s44t to everyone

[glacial wind]

For some reason he gets pain on long pole travel switches and he’s now telling everyone that long pole switches are bad even though the majority of newer switches nowadays are longpole

[fluid ravine]

Look idk what happen but that is someway to like discourage people from your own experience with them fingees of yours

[calm pulsar]

yeah just did the same, want to save myself from commenting on that again lol

[spice plover]

honest to god worse choice ive ever made were not open bottom switches and switching to those RAW HEs

crazy im getting blocked for having an opposite opinion

[glacial wind]

It’s a whole saga you missed. He basically bottoms out really hard and long pole causes him pain

[kind helm]

especially for some reason the mods dont deal with him but deal with bigsy for speaking facts

[fluid ravine]

oh man

[spice plover]

idk idc if they block me i just have a different opinion just strange i guess

[glacial wind]

Honestly his opinion for himself is fine, just that he mistakenly thinks his issue applies to anyone else

[fluid ravine]

that's a way to say it, i couldn't process the english in my head

man im a disappointment

[kind helm]

nah you are just sleepy from the volleyball games

[calm pulsar]

ig technically it's just his opinion, but it's natural that a lot of people react like me to his assumptions about jades and raws
he's the only one with that issue

[fluid ravine]

ok myeah maybe i am tired

[spice plover]

I also play intense APM games like starcraft ... well before and now Gunz The Duel so i def spam my keys more then the avg person + work related aswell so

[kind helm]

its natural when he started calling everyone with no issues "sheep" or "people who don't actually type"

bro is smoking that good stuff

[glacial wind]

lol it’s not about spamming keys

[spice plover]

that was soooo yesterday

here comes the " yOuR FoRm Is NoT RiGhT"

just save it please god

[calm pulsar]

thumbs up if you're a keyboard "soundwhore" on alu with no foams and closed bottom switch

[glacial wind]

I play high apm games too and type at a fairly fast rate, have no issues here

[kind helm]

open bottom discrimination!

[glacial wind]

Honestly I think gothikx goes on crazy yap sessions inspired by adderall or something because every so often he hyper focuses and goes on crazy rants that make no sense

Or he’s drunk

[spice plover]

what games do you play that are high apm sno

and no im very against drinking

[glacial wind]

StarCraft, league etc

you realize long pole switches are literally the majority of new switches these days for keyboards and the vast majority of people have no finger pain issues with them

[fluid ravine]

Look man I'm sorry about your fingees getting pain but you need to understand that you shouldn't be like discouraging people away from a product just because of your experience and opinions and making it seem like everyone will have the same problem. It's fine to just share your opinions and experience but it's just straight up not right to like tell people NOT to do this or that man

[kind helm]

people already had that whole conversation with him yesterday

[spice plover]

like im not just going to stay completely silent when someone asks for a new switch and EVERY single person is saying the same one "RAW"... getting blocked overthat is wild and idc if im against the crowd

[calm pulsar]

dude has a personal vendetta against raws

[glacial wind]

It’s not even in he keyboards. Even in MX long pole are very popular

[fluid ravine]

like VERY popular

ok idk why i exaggerated it lol

[calm pulsar]

yeah what's curious is that a lot of people act like MX never existed 😄

[kind helm]

because snappy long pole da best bb!

[glacial wind]

No one is blocking you for your personal experience. They’re blocking you because you’re mistakenly applying your personal experience to other people

[fluid ravine]

lol

[spice plover]

idc if its popular and all you guys keep shilling the EXACT same thing because you spent money on it and have a bias of that or other youtubers telling you what to think...

[glacial wind]

Most of the custom keyboard world is using long pole switches btw. Cheap or expensive switches included

[spice plover]

fucking pathetic gotta get you guys job applications for GEON

[fluid ravine]

bro wat 😂

gladly! will do in a few years love that guy

[glacial wind]

You realize it’s not just raw he that are long pole right?

[calm pulsar]

lol I peeked into the blocked message
I'll just say my favorite is jade pro rn hehe
but I'm on my raw x jade pro mix kinda

[spice plover]

sure, but thats all you guys ever talk about or recommend

[kind helm]

i love watching sno and mr turkeyson are going through what we had to go through yesterday, two very calm people are having such a great time for a ()

[fluid ravine]

ok i done that was funny

[glacial wind]

like if you go to a keyboard switch website with 10 companies probably all 10 are selling the majority long pole switches which would have the same issue you have

So it’s not a geon issue.

[calm pulsar]

it's like a point of no return where you can't accept people use these switches and they are not objectively bad

[glacial wind]

You just have an issue with long pole travel, which is fine but you thinking it has something to do with raw he switches itself is insanity

[fluid ravine]

https://tenor.com/view/themoreyouknow-more-know-gif-4483207

Did you know that "long pole" HE switches aren't actually long pole?!?!?!?!

[spice plover]

so your telling me when someone comes here and asks for a recommend on switches every single person says the same switch

[fluid ravine]

lol we use to do it for jades

[glacial wind]

Because he doesn’t have many options. You realize ttc magneto, jades from gateron etc are also long pole

[fluid ravine]

it's like a trend of things

[glacial wind]

What you’re not realizing is all the other switches are almost all long pole too lol

[fluid ravine]

I only recommend based on what the user wants

[kind helm]

subjectively superior

[fluid ravine]

esp if it's based on sound

[calm pulsar]

most ppl will say geon cause he's considered the goat for these switches, and he's chill to the point he offered a discount code for all wooting enjoyers here in this very channel, and he tries to implement new things for HE stuff

[fluid ravine]

but when it comes to like feel, that's when we have to narrow things down a bit i'd say

[fluid ravine]

Mr Turkeyson lmfao

[calm pulsar]

look at this distinguished gentleman

[fluid ravine]

[spice plover]

LMAO ... im so fucking done OMG a code for 3$ on a 30$ purchase so now im going to forever shill and block or put people down without other opinions

i knew this dude must be apart of this community or disord to get attacked this much

[glacial wind]

Bro… the other recommend switches are also long pole

[kind helm]

me respect a man who takes out so much time in his life to do the switch tape mod, and made one of my now favorite mod, the foam tape

[calm pulsar]

stop projecting about putting people down

[kind helm]

i think about mr turkeyson when i use my tofu60 redux and thank him for his contribution to this beautiful community

[ionic breach]

his code was like 10 bucks off 30 lmao

[fluid ravine]

Me over here thinking that keyboards taught me more than school

[glacial wind]

I still stand by my theory gothikx pops a bunch of adderall then goes off on discord

[calm pulsar]

the fape mod

[fluid ravine]

[fluid ravine]

fape LOL

[calm pulsar]

😂

[kind helm]

that some "black and raw" level s44t

LMAO

[fluid ravine]

[spice plover]

lmao

[fluid ravine]

idkkk mannnn every piece of money counts

[spice plover]

its actually crazy because you guys probably contributed like 20% of overall sales with the amount of shilling for that code and thats awesome

[ionic breach]

what keycaps do you have?

[fluid ravine]

GMK BooBs

[ionic breach]

goth

[spice plover]

that dudes really smart and lucky im sure hes a cool dude. nothing against him

[glacial wind]

I like that through this whole conversation gothikx still doesn’t understand what long pole is

[spice plover]

im done talking about this dumb switches man

this convo was so yesterday

and when MJ joined all of u went quiet

[calm pulsar]

long pole = shorter travel switch
long pole is the name that carried over from MX switches where they had to increase pole length to reduce travel

[fluid ravine]

is MJ your goat

[spice plover]

more than GEON is yours

[deft wing]

Michael Jackson? Michael Jordan?

[fluid ravine]

woah there buddy

[glacial wind]

“I hate long pole switches death to geon raw he!”
“But you know all the other switches are mostly all long pole too right?”
“You guys are all schills, death to longpole!”

[spice plover]

@stone flax

[fluid ravine]

Thockfather is my goat

[ionic breach]

mj likes raws too lmao

sorry

[fluid ravine]

dont be assuming now

[glacial wind]

Bro even mj doesn’t have your back on this one lol

[ionic breach]

its understandable tho

the issue ur having

[spice plover]

he legit explained to everyone about them being closed bottoms

[glacial wind]

Yeah but he later found your issue was due to travel distance

[fluid ravine]

huh???????

[glacial wind]

You bottom out too hard

So long poles make it worse and higher spring weights help

[ionic breach]

how hard?

[glacial wind]

aka you’ll have issues with all the long poles

[calm pulsar]

and ofc this:

[fluid ravine]

yoooooo

[ionic breach]

no really how hard?

[fluid ravine]

lol

[spice plover]

"found a post that should basically show you your not crazy or weak like the people in wooting tell you are
theyre just literal idiot newbies
long poles (which in the case of he are reduced travel closed bottoms) do feel harsher
also the guy is kinda wrong
in the reddit post
pain doesnt come from earlier bottom out
but the distribution of force onto the smaller area of a stem rather than diffused over rails" Directly from MJ the goat himself

[glacial wind]

Bro read mj final reply to you…

You don’t even understand the solution he found for you

[ionic breach]

ya i have raws rn without having to use long pole stabs tho

its fine for most people

stock keycaps should be fine

[fluid ravine]

wait you lost me here lmfao

are we talking about the seesaw problem now?

[ionic breach]

sry just came into this convo

what is he facing lmao

[fluid ravine]

ah right lmao that's not what we talking about rn

[calm pulsar]

damn i'm waiting for mj to get the venom

[fluid ravine]

lul

[spice plover]

im sure geon is a good looking prob korean dude thats dope

[glacial wind]

your problem is you bottom out too hard

[fluid ravine]

yo its me!!!

[glacial wind]

and long pole switches = you bottom out even harder. That's why higher tension springs seem to help you

[kind helm]

he doesn't have it yet? i thought he has it in his frog

which also comes from geon btw

[glacial wind]

aka it's not geon raw he specifically but long pole 3.4/3.5mm type switches that cause your issue

[calm pulsar]

oh I replied a little below those msgs too
didnt fit in on the screen xd

[calm pulsar]

actually not sure about pcb itself but he's still looking for frog compatible 7u plates

[spice plover]

Long pole / Closed bottom switches

[fluid ravine]

chat just get 4mm switches fr

[kind helm]

oh yea

[fluid ravine]

[glacial wind]

no the closed bottom thing was just him guessing solutions earlier. The more likely conclusion after that discovery with your spring thing is that it's long pole

[ionic breach]

oh ya, just read the whole thing

[glacial wind]

the closed bottom is going to be a very minor influence vs. the fact that long pole means you're hitting 0.5mm earlier

[ionic breach]

if ur actually hurting, look into what mj said

[glacial wind]

reality is it's just that you can't use long pole switches

you bottom out hard and it hurts you

[kind helm]

didnt even remember you were there. messages were flying through

just like right now

[fluid ravine]

lol

[kind helm]

[ionic breach]

i think ur just not used to shorter distance

[fluid ravine]

fast af boiiiiiiiiiiiiii

[glacial wind]

that is all perfectly ok and nothing wrong with that, but what everyone is trying to explain to you is that like 90% of all switches are 'long pole' and it's not a geon raw he thing lol

[spice plover]

pain doesnt come from earlier bottom out
but the distribution of force onto the smaller area of a stem rather than diffused over rails

[glacial wind]

if you hate on geon raw he for that then you have to hate on 90% of all keyboard switches these days

[glacial wind]

that was just mj guessing stuff earlier.

realistically it's almost definitely from your long pole which he discovered later when you talked about the springs

[fluid ravine]

educational guess