🔧│keyboard_modding

[calm pulsar]

10 bucks discount

[chilly mural]

10 bucks is 10 bucks

[calm pulsar]

which color should I get

[chilly mural]

light blue sky

[calm pulsar]

it helps installing switches in soft plates easier

[calm pulsar]

ight ordered

[stone flax]

:>

[calm pulsar]

btw got this lol

[chilly mural]

It still looks ridiculous

soo out of place lmao

[polar girder]

Jelly

[calm pulsar]

also got some designer studio stabs, we'll see how good they are

[polar girder]

Oh dude. Nice

Curious

[calm pulsar]

yeah I will use them on my MX build
I might need to use 2 of stem spacers on each stab cause the switch I ordered is 3.0mm travel

[polar girder]

Oh man

I want 3.0mm HE

those all closed bottom on MX?

[calm pulsar]

yeah MX is pretty much all closed bottom ever since like 70's or smth 😄

it is not as thuddy as on HE though

[slow veldt]

(´▽`ʃ♡ƪ)

[harsh dove]

https://tenor.com/view/mujikcboro-seriymujik-gif-24361533

[untold wigeon]

Best brush ever

[polar girder]

lol really? Dang

Yeah I don’t know MX

HE is life

[trail mauve]

Im gonna be honest, they almost look like needles xD

[polar girder]

Your name giving me schizophrenia trying read it

😵‍💫

[kind helm]

use a good switch puller, if you can't simply pull it then guide it a bit with the finger. i think this way is better because when i just push them out I had small piece of plastic clipping out from switches

possibly depends on the plate too, pc plate is much easier to pull switch out compare to fr4

man for the alu plate i am getting s44t is gonna be a nightmare

[idle frost]

what is a good switch puller

im jus using a random one from amazon rn ciy or something

[drowsy meteor]

The gateron

If you have the money

It works the best imo

[idle frost]

Yeah i was looking at that and the ws one but is it worth it if im not gonna mess with the switches a lot

im prolly jus gonna lube em and drop em in and forget

[drowsy meteor]

If you want to take them out ever

You will thanks yourself

I have the one that is standalone

Not the combo I have no experience with the duo

[idle frost]

okay ill invest then haha

man keyboards are a lot more stress inducing than i thought

i was thinking about just refunding everything and hopping in the constance tkl group buy so i didnt have to think about any of it anymore

[drowsy meteor]

The keycap puller is also an option I don’t own it but I can’t imagine it’s as worth it

[calm pulsar]

didnt you have a keycap puller with your wooting?
also a couple of bucks for way faster keycap removal is worth it

[drowsy meteor]

😂 idk 35 dollars is kind of a lot for something already have that works well

[calm pulsar]

wtf 35?

[drowsy meteor]

I got some designer studio stabs btw hopefully they work for 80he

[drowsy meteor]

Yes

The gateron one

[calm pulsar]

lol fuck that

I thought you talked about keycap pullers in general

[drowsy meteor]

Nope the gateron one

[calm pulsar]

yeah that switch/keycap puller from gateron is weird

[drowsy meteor]

The switch puller is worth it imo

Especially because it got me free shipping on my order lol

But mostly because I bend all of my other switch pullers

[low flame]

Oh god this took me hours 😫😭

[fluid ravine]

we all been there

good job soldier

[heavy slate]

Guys how can I make this sound better

It’s like pingy and has a lot of rattle

[fluid ravine]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vxHb6CJc9V8

[low flame]

Grease the stablizers

[heavy slate]

will that also fix the rattle

[quiet bay]

Before applyi ng anything I would at least check if the wire is straight first

[cedar gate]

Steel plate?

Steel plate usually makes spacebar sound bad and other than that just lube the stabs

[heavy slate]

theres a wire?

[calm pulsar]

just watch the video lol

[heavy slate]

I dont have a wire in my spacebar

its a 60he with custom keycaps

[fluid ravine]

watch the video I sent

it's a guide for how to lube and install stabilizers

stabilizers are used for bigger keys like spacebar, shifts, enter, and backspace

[heavy slate]

yes

[fluid ravine]

it allows for those keys to not become a seesaw

[fluid ravine]

Use a switch puller to remove the switch

and then unclip the tabs of the plate mounted stabilizers and pull the whole thing out

you will then notice what's going on

[calm pulsar]

nah I got that wireless spacebar

[heavy slate]

!?

[calm pulsar]

2.4ghz

[heavy slate]

bro what

[heavy slate]

im talking about this

yall are just linking me a video bruh

[urban harbor]

WATCH THE VIDEO

[cedar gate]

If your lubing swagkey knights is a syringe with krytox enough or do you need to open them up

[heavy slate]

WHAT IS IN THE VIDEO BESIDES SHOWING ME HOW TO USE A PAINT BRUSH

[calm pulsar]

bro do you expect people to explain every part of the stabilizer every single time instead of just linking a video

wth

[cedar gate]

Where to lube?

[calm pulsar]

he talks about lubing the WIRE of the stabilizer if you listen

[heavy slate]

all I asked was if there is supposed to be a wire

[heavy slate]

oh ok

Bruh

how is that a wire

[cedar gate]

More like a pole tbh lol

[calm pulsar]

https://tenor.com/view/breaking-bad-ahh-wire-wire-breaking-bad-jesse-ahh-wire-ahh-gif-26980385

[heavy slate]

are the pole sticks thingies supposed to be wiggly like that

[cedar gate]

Yes

[heavy slate]

one has more lube bruh

wait my first stabilizer has no lube at all

where is the QA 💀

sorry guys I watched the video

mb

💀 I figured it out now

[cedar gate]

If you mean OOB then lube in space bars varies a lot all the time

[fluid ravine]

You asked i answered

[cedar gate]

You'll get a little or a ton

[cedar gate]

LOL THAT USERNAME

[heavy slate]

lmao

[cedar gate]

Gonna confuse the hell out of some new guy

[heavy slate]

gg

[fluid ravine]

dw abt it dan lmao

[fluid ravine]

"new guy"

it's not like they know me anyways

[heavy slate]

im outside your window

[cedar gate]

I remember when I first joined as a hard-core godfather fan I thought the thockfather was hilarious

[fluid ravine]

lmao

i mean Pops a great guy

amazing guy imo

[fluid ravine]

nuh uh

[cedar gate]

I meant the username but yea

[cedar gate]

I think the first thing I ever said to you was "are you michael" because in the movies the godfathers son was Michael so I assumed if you did it as a joke because of the movie you would get it

[fluid ravine]

ah yeah i remember

[cedar gate]

But you never saw the movie so the joke made me look dumb

[fluid ravine]

mbmb

[cedar gate]

I would actually pay like 80$ for a shirt that says thockfather tho

[low flame]

I did it!!!!

I upgraded the plate to pc and lubed and greased all of my switches

Maybe I overlubed some of my switches but it doesn’t matter

[calm pulsar]

the lube will set in so its all good (most likely xd)

[low flame]

Right that was my mindset 🤣

[bold grail]

Guys If I change the Switches of the Wooting 60HE Will it still be as good as before?

Will it stay a Gaming keyboard basically lol

[left depot]

yes (:

its about the settings in wootility too

[bold grail]

So what makes the keyboard so fast?

Pcb or software

[muted sapphire]

NO PROBLEM

[muted sapphire]

both

[hollow pagoda]

how much times can I lube with 1 lube package from wooting site?

[bold grail]

Thanks

[glossy pagoda]

2.5x a 60HE

[hollow pagoda]

thank you that would be 1x for two he?

[glossy pagoda]

1.5x or so

[hollow pagoda]

nice nice how often do you lube?

[muted sapphire]

nah u guys are lubing the full keyboard?😭😭

[glossy pagoda]

I have lubed 1 switch in my life and that's enough for me

[muted sapphire]

i am just lubing wasd spacebar and a couple other keys

and the stabs

[hollow pagoda]

im playing rdr1 so im spamming shift like crazy

[muted sapphire]

lube that aswell then

i lubes all the stabilised keys so far

[hollow pagoda]

i see i see i've joined club 1-2 weeks ago so my switches are farm from lube needing i guess

[kind helm]

not a real thocker

lubing is thocking

[quasi hinge]

Here is the sneak preview

🖖

Back will be milled to allow for large image

[hollow pagoda]

what am i reading

[quasi hinge]

Then cerakote application

[harsh dove]

https://tenor.com/view/african-kid-africa-thinking-calculate-hmm-gif-14333456070094555182

[quasi hinge]

Im building a UAP themed build

[quasi hinge]

The craft on the back will be larger, the serial area will be milled larger

Then will try to apply cerakote in this color

Milling the serial area will be interesting

The logo of the craft will be larger on the back and hopefully cerakoted in its true color differing from the case color

https://www.lemokey.com/products/ufo-aluminium-alloy-artisan-keycap

I have the escape key too! 🖖

[quasi hinge]

Yes wooting, I think I voided my warranty

[polar girder]

That’s fking sick

[quasi hinge]

There is a ring around the craft that lights up

Pretty awesome

[muted sapphire]

damn

[muted sapphire]

yeah what's the point of lubing F7 lmao

[kind helm]

👀 wait so you only lube the alpha?

[stone flax]

nothing really if you dont use it ;0
some people tend to lube the alphas and mods particularly as thats that they do a bulk of typing on ^_^

[calm pulsar]

I would want my keyboad to sound worse in some other spots 💀

[muted sapphire]

nah

who is pressing F7 more than once per week maximum

😭

[calm pulsar]

lubing one switch takes like a minute😭

if you're lubing most of them why not do em all

also don't you get 80he for more keys lol

you do you ofc, it just would feel weird for me knowing there are keys on my board I didnt lube, thus I obnoxiously stepped in

[calm pulsar]

storming area 51 type shi

[quasi hinge]

I hope you all can at least appreciate the effort when done haha

[calm pulsar]

no I mean a whole concept with a custom etching is respectable, very nice

[quasi hinge]

Thank you kind sir

[quasi hinge]

In the post, ill explain certain details, the lore and inspiration etc

[harsh dove]

https://tenor.com/view/ufo-uap-tic-tac-aliens-trendizisst-gif-10776784510221925471

[calm pulsar]

https://tenor.com/view/alien-cat-aliencat-gonehome-abducted-gif-5078582

[quasi hinge]

https://youtu.be/2TumprpOwHY?feature=shared

[safe fern]

anyone know if you can hot swap the v1 switches to v2 switches on the 60HE+?

[fluid ravine]

Yes you can hot swap the switches on the Wooting to any compatible HE switches

[safe fern]

any reccomendation?

[quasi hinge]

Go for Raw!

Have them in my 60he+ and 80 he

[safe fern]

what is closest to cherry mx silver feel?

[quasi hinge]

No idea on that but raws are really the best Ive tried unless you attempt the ‘on the spectrum’ franken switch

[pine coral]

Does anyone know if the lekker springs can be swap with gateron switches ?

[quasi hinge]

@calm pulsar

[muted sapphire]

lekker springs?

like u take out the spring from the switch and u use it on another switch

[pine coral]

Yes

[muted sapphire]

or you mean the spring package

[pine coral]

For instance 60lekker spring out and put them in a gently silent gateron switch instead

[muted sapphire]

should work

[pine coral]

It be a 35/40 spring swapped out for lekker 60 spring to go into it

Also does anyone know if 1 mm pom dampening switch pads will interfere with the switches ?

[calm pulsar]

where would the UFO build be on the spectrum

[fallen echo]

anything around 45g actuation force would be similar to cherry mx silver. you will find that most HE switches commonly recommended here are featuring springs around that

silvers are linear, as are HE.

I would also recommend setting the actuation distance on them to 1-1.2mm for the closest feel in how they behave

[calm pulsar]

silver are also long pole, so jade pros or raws are easy choices

[fallen echo]

besides lekkers, have we any typically recommended HE switches that are still 4mm?

[calm pulsar]

wait silver bottom out force is 70g💀

46g it seems only to reach actuation

[fallen echo]

yep

[calm pulsar]

black knights

[fallen echo]

hm. fair.

never tested them myself.

[calm pulsar]

they are not super tight, as probably most open bottoms, but you can franken them with raws to make the tighest open bottom switch

[trim stump]

ayo guys i was wondering what the initial/final magnetic flux specs mean on different switches?

[quasi hinge]

At levels in a galaxy far far away

[jaunty ruin]

honestly it depends on the switches but for 99% of cases, yes it will stay a "gaming keyboard" and will perform almost identically in terms of responsiveness :)

[quasi hinge]

I would say it could make it better

[jaunty ruin]

very true

but thats a big could

some switches are bad, some are good (pls dont ask me which ones im just gonna tell u to get jade pros)

[quasi hinge]

Just had a friends done in a tofu

He had a stock wooting 60he from 2 years ago

I told him what to upgrade and voila

He is rockin 50g raws

Maroon!

With white wooting pc plate and keycaps

[fallen echo]

very nice.

[quasi hinge]

Tx stabs 1.6 long pole and brass weight

[jaunty ruin]

looks cool

what did u do for mods

no tape mod, gummy ring or lubed stabilizers and switches?

[quasi hinge]

Tape mod, lubed switches and stabs

And replaced the stabs

It is amazing

[jaunty ruin]

for my current 60he i have tape mod, lubed stabs and tape modded spacebar (painters tape)

have u seen the impact of the gummy ring?

[quasi hinge]

It feels better than my 60he+ in the alumaze

Maybe my compass was off

[jaunty ruin]

i need to get hold of one cuz its genuinely crazy how its affecting feel and sound

[quasi hinge]

But I loved this maroon tofu with the weight and raws

Chefs kiss

I miss it already

[jaunty ruin]

i dont know if i should stay spending money on modding my 60he

or just buy an 80he

and mod that instead

[quasi hinge]

Im a wooting wh***e so alumaze 100%

[quasi hinge]

Do you need the extra keys?

[quasi hinge]

I needed the extra keys

[jaunty ruin]

yeah i honestly do

[quasi hinge]

So I even got a macropad

[jaunty ruin]

yeah thats so nice

[quasi hinge]

Then 100% go for the 80he

[jaunty ruin]

and their footprint isnt even that much different

its like a 17.5% difference

[quasi hinge]

Yeah

I was worried

Has never been an issue

[jaunty ruin]

thats exactly what my friends with 60% kbs have been telling me aswell

thats the one reason they stay on 60%

cuz theyre worried abt the footprint being too big

im just like bro it is not that bad

u get so much extra stuff for 17.5%

[quasi hinge]

Nah

You got a decent size desk?

If so then you are good

[jaunty ruin]

180x60cm rn

and im planning on upgrading

[quasi hinge]

They are just jelly you have the option to get the 80he

[jaunty ruin]

😭

[jaunty ruin]

hey since you have the 80he, could you tell me if the 80he is actually that much better in terms of sound, feeling and 'smoothness' ig

[fathom crescent]

anyone got suggestions for gold/yellowish/pharaoh type keycaps
i have the leo80 and need something that matches the badge

[quasi hinge]

Hands down best keyboard ive owned

For gaming

And just the feel

[jaunty ruin]

apologies i meant compared to the 60he

is it actually a big difference?

[quasi hinge]

I love it so much, I got an extra case to mod it

[quasi hinge]

Size wise?

Its not the size but how you use it

[jaunty ruin]

nono, in terms of sound, feeling and 'smoothness'

[quasi hinge]

I prefer it to my 60he+

But I modded mine

I have 50g raws, tx stabs and removed the tape mod

[jaunty ruin]

removed the tape mod

[kind helm]

80he is better than stock 60he, but i dont think it would be better than modded 60he

:3

[jaunty ruin]

any reason for why u did that

[quasi hinge]

It comes with a wooting one

Sounded better

[jaunty ruin]

hey josh

[quasi hinge]

I dunno why

At least to me

[kind helm]

hey bb

[jaunty ruin]

why wouldnt it be better than a modded 60he

[quasi hinge]

Forget the cope

[kind helm]

because the option is very limited due to the decision on the layout

[quasi hinge]

Just get an 80he put raws in and call it a day

Thats it

[jaunty ruin]

hmm okay

[quasi hinge]

It will surprise you

[jaunty ruin]

i feel like ur into way heavier keyboard modding than i am

[quasi hinge]

Nah

Im really not good

[jaunty ruin]

nono josh is

[quasi hinge]

There are some real savants here

[jaunty ruin]

yeah

feel like josh might be one of them

all i really need is tape mod, switches, keycaps, and maybe case (honestly i dont like the metal case ping ppl are talking abt)

[kind helm]

i am not up there yet

[quasi hinge]

Just giving you my experience since I have the equipment and modded them

[jaunty ruin]

i appreciate it for sure

now my only concern is what ima do with my current 60he

[quasi hinge]

But if you need the keys…

80he is a god send

[quasi hinge]

Sell or keep as backup

[stone flax]

nyaaa~ ping is bad but for some people resonance is yummy TvT

[jaunty ruin]

whts up mj

[kind helm]

also i am biased, i dislike 80 due to the design, and i avoid recommending it unless you dont want to spend too much time worrying about modding. then id say 80 is a good option. gasket mount for a softer typing feel, and zinc case solving the hollowness of the key press

[stone flax]

hallo

[quasi hinge]

And I am the opposite. I need the keys 100%

I love my 60he+ with the macro pad

But im never going back haha

[jaunty ruin]

is there any way of preventing the ping?

ive had this weird issue with my 60he for a few months (upwards of 6 months) where my spacebar on the left side has a different sound than the right
its very easy to tell the difference to me, even after i lubed the stabs

[kind helm]

i think ping comes from 2 places mostly, the case and the spring, case ping is metal banging on metal, solution is force break mod, which is using small piece of tape next to the screw holes to prevent the harsh contact. spring ping you need to lube the spring

[stone flax]

as in case ping @-@

?

[kind helm]

mj probaly can add to that :3

[stone flax]

or spring :0

[jaunty ruin]

ye exactly

case ping

ive never heard abt spring pings

or atleast i dont remember it if i have

[stone flax]

it could very well be a real thing

[quasi hinge]

Maybe change the stabs?

[jaunty ruin]

u think it would be a bent stabilizer?

cuz if so i have a trick to fix it

[quasi hinge]

I guess anything is possible without looking at it

[jaunty ruin]

ill take a look rn

fuck ykw one thing im getting really tired of is headset hair

i actually cant deal with it anymore

[kind helm]

a bent stab causes ticking sound when you press on the space, backspace, or the two shift keys. basically you would hear more than just the bottom out and the top out if you have ticking

[stone flax]

the propagation of case ping stems from many things like metallic resonance of a case’s design, lots of factors serve to emphasize this such as
A hollow “reverbery” metal case (recitfied by adding dampening , mass, or matters of absorption in the case)
Metal on metal contact (alleviated by breaking these metal on metal contacts through methods such as force-breaking)
Plate ping from a metal one
and more

Spring ping and crunch in and of itself is just the sound made by improper contraction of a spring left unlubricated, causing the coils to make unwanted sounds when compresses and hits again the bottom or released

try popping out one of ur lekkers and holding it to your ear to test if you have spring ping

[jaunty ruin]

ok @stone flax @kind helm lmk rn do i lube my switches or no

[kind helm]

depends on the switch

[jaunty ruin]

ive been putting it off for so long and i want to but its gonna take so long

stock 60he

lekker v1

60 grams force wtv

[kind helm]

just change the switches if you are using lekker v1

[jaunty ruin]

im only gonna change them once i buy the 80he

or once i decide not to buy the 80he

[kind helm]

the time it would take for you to make lekker v1 sound "good" is not worth imo

[stone flax]

steel plate + check for spring ping

[jaunty ruin]

very reasonable statement tbh

[stone flax]

when did u get this board?

[jaunty ruin]

like

uf

maybe like

early 2023

[stone flax]

if its recent enough it should be v1.5

[stone flax]

owo

[jaunty ruin]

yuh

[kind helm]

oh yea also the steel plate. i think pc plate would be much better

i brought mine late 2023

[jaunty ruin]

the plate we're talking abt is the like plate which the switches are like held down by right

sorry i dont know shit abt the plates on keyboards

[muted sapphire]

OwO

[glacial wind]

could be one of many cases. Freebird60 for example

[exotic inlet]

As sno said could be the freebird60

[kind helm]

optimum case is out

947g (tofu is 793g, with weight is 1080g, from badseed's video.)

[prime orbit]

if only the optimum case was black too

[odd rose]

can i add tape mod to the pet film? like first 1-2 layers tape, then put pet on top? cant seem to find anyone who did both together, maybe its too insane tho idfk

[runic spoke]

Does anyone have more clarification what the friction plate is ?

Is it just protruding from the plate to work almost like an o ring?

[austere creek]

basically like putting an oring around but more consistent

[runic spoke]

About to install an oring around my module tonight 💀

[prime orbit]

only for the new case?

[runic spoke]

And now wooting comes out with this lol , doesn’t seem for sale separately anyway

[austere creek]

any case that works with a friction mount

[prime orbit]

will it be sold or nah

[prime orbit]

like separately

[polar girder]

Does case only come with friction fit pad?

[kind helm]

slightly less heavy than tofu redux with brass weight

[quiet bay]

wait thats actually pretty cool

Friction fit pad

[kind helm]

will friction pad be sold along with pc plate? i am thinking about getting a new one later on

[runic spoke]

Is it silicon tho?

[kind helm]

think so

[quiet bay]

It looks like silicon

[runic spoke]

Yeah not a big fan xd

[kind helm]

you can cut out the middle

[runic spoke]

I mean at that point might as well normal o ring

[kind helm]

burger mount is janky af

[runic spoke]

Yeah i mean o ring mount

[polar girder]

Silicone friction fit pad as a stand alone product is a good idea IMO

[runic spoke]

The one that goes around the pcb

[kind helm]

oh yea if you meant gummy oring i agree

[runic spoke]

Ive had my wooting for a week and I havent even had it mounted yet been using it just placed in my case cuz of this lol. Waiting for the gummy o ring to arrive

[hybrid fable]

dont forget to check your wooting account I had loyalty coupon for 15% off the optimum case

[polar girder]

Stock wooting in plastic case with a friction fit pad and a PC plate would go hard

[kind helm]

but i would assume this new method would be have slightly more even force compare to gummy oring, since gummy oring doesn't cover the sides in a very even way due to the screws

[stone flax]

ya

gummy o-ring without cutouts is jank anyways

:p

[weary tree]

Where did you find the friction pad page

[quiet bay]

But maybe it doesnt limit what stabs u can use with ur typical gummy mount now

Like how sometimes the ring protrudes too much out

[polar girder]

Agreed

[kind helm]

without cutout but with foam tape i think its decent. clean build with no janky moding would need like a frog mini or salvation which cost close to 300 when they were available.

[stone flax]

idk

[polar girder]

There it is.

They give you for burger mount too?

[stone flax]

selling it by itself would be a better option than backyard sciencing an o-ring or otherwise friction mounting OR spending upwards of $100 for a non-traymount case like a salvation or frog

[runic spoke]

Look up graveshift gummy o ring, these bypass this issue

[stone flax]

they needa sell ts for people who dont wanna do either

T-T

[polar girder]

Wrong

[lament plover]

nah i think this keycaps are cool but i recently saw a video of what i NEED

[polar girder]

https://wooting.io/product/optimum-keycaps?Language=ANSI+United+States&Color=Gray

Solid deal

[runic spoke]

Have you tried them? Thats just what I’ve heard

[kind helm]

it wouldve been great if they can make that friction pad modular like the one 461 has according to turkeyson

[quiet bay]

What I need is the owlabs collab case

[lament plover]

they are all perfectly clean jkust like the optimum set, but they still have LED in the FRONT of the keycap so not the top

[wispy sedge]

you guys said you had a fix to the space noise issue in 80he?

[polar girder]

Yea

That’s how I know lol

[quiet bay]

Wait dang 25 bucks is actually rlly affordable

[polar girder]

Yeah

[runic spoke]

Damn I have one on the way was gonna try using it with screwin stabs, you’re saying its not gonna work ?

[polar girder]

No

[lament plover]

this is what i need

can we make this?

pls

[polar girder]

I’m saying it might cause issues

At least it did for me

It might be ok

It was ok for me for a while

[runic spoke]

I see, why did it stop being ok lol

Also which case do you use

[polar girder]

Cuz it snuck between the stab

[runic spoke]

This info is gold for me lol

[polar girder]

When it stayed on the outside it was fine

But eventually it wiggled in between and my backspace wouldn’t come back up lol

[fluid ravine]

Any kid application

[polar girder]

So I took the backspace key off and just clicked the switch for a couple months until I just decided to buy a frog mini

[runic spoke]

I actually heard someone having issues with the backspace with the oring

[polar girder]

Yeah i think plate mount is fine

[runic spoke]

Ill see if I can hack it somehow, thanks for the info my G

[polar girder]

Cuz the way the stab is enclosed

Type shit

Word. GL

[runic spoke]

i really dont wanna tray mount lol

[lament plover]

whats that?

[kind helm]

i mean your papi is a mod here maybe they can give you like a backdoor

[polar girder]

I bought some plate mount TX ap Stabs just to use for it but never used them lol

[odd rose]

can i add tape mod to the pet film? like first 1-2 layers tape, then put pet on top? cant seem to find anyone who did both together, maybe its too insane tho idfk

[polar girder]

Just bought an entire new case instead

[polar girder]

And I tried that on both stock plastic and tofu redux cases btw

[wispy sedge]

my 80he spacebar does an additional sound i don't like besides the thock, I think I saw somewhere on this discord that somebody made a fix? there was no instruction, just a youtube short of it working/in action

[quiet bay]

Lol u finally saw it

[runic spoke]

I have the holy60, the nice thing is it doesn’t come with standoffs in the middle preinstalled. Looks very gummy oring ready, hopefully will work well

[fluid ravine]

We need kids application I swear!

[robust siren]

https://tenor.com/view/kid-luffy-one-piece-bully-gif-5707440

type shi

[weary tree]

Friction fit pad sold seperatly when?

[quiet bay]

so generous

[polar girder]

That’s like for you tho bro

Since you actually own a Wooting

[kind helm]

yea doesnt everyone here has a wooting

[polar girder]

This

I want a FFP in a plastic Wooting case with PC plate now NGL

[quiet bay]

Different plates sold when

[kind helm]

FFP?

[austere creek]

btw those dont work for people who cant see them anyway

[quiet bay]

PP plate 🥺 pls

[marble sky]

Does anyone know where I can buy Geon Raws in the Netherlands? Geonworks has an insane shipping cost, and deltakeys only accepts credit card (which I dont have).

[kind helm]

think there is one you can buy from hypekeyboard

[austere creek]

we were working on a collab to sell em

[fallen echo]

aliexpress maybe?

[random hull]

you cant, but you should get em on aliexpress

[robust siren]

$3 off keycaps

[kind helm]

price is a bit wacky but at least that exist

[quiet bay]

Yeah but that ones mad expensive

[random hull]

am in NL too and it wasnt bad from there, can even use a coupon

[marble sky]

Are switches from aliexpress legit?

[random hull]

no import duties etc

theyre sold by kbdfans on ali

thats legit

[marble sky]

Ill have to look at that, thanks!

[kind helm]

you basically get longer wait time for cheaper shipping

[random hull]

https://nl.aliexpress.com/item/1005007782574456.html?spm=a2g0o.cart.0.0.319761d7CmMlj3&mp=1&gatewayAdapt=glo2nld

[marble sky]

Wait, which coupon code?

[random hull]

The one I used was expired then, but it seems they have new ones going on

this would work? its not a lot but hey

atleast you wont get hit by expensive shipping or import duties

[marble sky]

Oh, they actually have different force options here. Which one would you guys recommend, coming from MX reds? 40, 50 or 60g?

[random hull]

I went for 50, but I havent used them, so cant really comment too much on it. I felt like it was a common pick here

I think red is 50 too?

[polar girder]

friction fit pad

I’m already tired of typing it out

[quiet bay]

Whaaa why havent u used them?

[random hull]

I bought them in preparation of the board, but I dont have the board

[quiet bay]

Just havent rexeiced yet or

[calm pulsar]

lol FFP

[random hull]

😏

[marble sky]

I think reds bottom out force is a lot higher

Or it was the other way around

No good 1 to 1 comparison

[random hull]

someone else will have to answer that one, im not really sure, i just didnt want too light, and 60g might have been a bit too much, although curious about it

[marble sky]

Yeah Ill have to think about it

Anyways, thanks a lot for the help!

[calm pulsar]

60g is the stock wootings, not that strong at all

[polar girder]

Mr. Olympia over here

60g way too heavy

I’m not trying to sprain my fingers

[kind helm]

acrylic tofu with brassweight and white pc plate? but the arcylic would show all the janky mods inside

[calm pulsar]

bro have you used any other keyboard in your life

[polar girder]

Sounds chill

[polar girder]

No ofc not

MacBook and shit work keyboards and Wooting

That’s it

[weary tree]

Depends on use case. For strafing or osu 60g gets heavy.

[kind helm]

a lot of "good" mx switches are ~60g i think

[polar girder]

Good is subjective

[random hull]

i had an ducky with mx blue before, but no idea how much those were

[polar girder]

😏

[kind helm]

you happy now :V

[stone flax]

50-55g extended springs hit well

;3

but yeah talking 14-16mm 60 to 65ish for linears

is nice

[calm pulsar]

the shit work ones may very well be around 60g, and most of MX are, so likely you typed on em before
lighter switches is nice and all, but people are obsessed with getting the lightest switches just cause they learned they exist

I do use 45g jade pro springs tho hehe

in my freakingswitch

they are 45g but top out like 60g

[stone flax]

;0

[kind helm]

as you say, "weak fingers" (do i get in trouble if i am just quoting 0.0!)

i think the max i went is like 55g as well. i just never bothered to try heavier spring and the switches i got just happen to be below or around 55g

[calm pulsar]

70g springs

tho they dont really affect the sound here lol

[kind helm]

want me to link that 150g spring clip again

[fallen echo]

yes. they are legit. just a different storefront.

[kind helm]

glarses SUPER RED

[calm pulsar]

yeah I remember that vid

[kind helm]

i think heavier spring should be smoother since it would push through the little imperfection in the switch, but within the range of what is common, i dont think the difference would be noticible enough

glarses mentioned that the 150g red was smoother than the ruglar cherry red

[calm pulsar]

you probably get there with 100g springs, but that would be more useful for analog input games

[kind helm]

yeee

[polar girder]

Yeah i was just projecting bro

I’m mad weak in the phalanges

[stone flax]

no duh

i mean

wowie that tracks ^_^

[kind helm]

HES BACK

[glacial wind]

give him time, he has to adjust to his new opener

[kind helm]

wait no educate me, dont go full eboy on me

you edging me here

[calm pulsar]

awesomesauce

[tropic urchin]

@calm pulsar white zinc update has confirmed early Dec - mid Dec for my keeb

[robust siren]

https://tenor.com/view/mr-bean-rowan-atkinson-waiting-watch-time-passing-by-gif-17639759

[tropic urchin]

https://tenor.com/view/ascending-energy-galaxy-gif-17739196

[tropic urchin]

Real

[calm pulsar]

naisu

[robust siren]

delayed again

[tropic urchin]

Na bridge was pseudo delayed too lol

[calm pulsar]

dec 2025 let's go

[stone flax]

heavier springs detract from the granularities in feel on the downstroke as it necessitates more effort, ergo you feel less texture/scratch and perceive more smoothness nyaaaa~ ;o;

[robust siren]

https://tenor.com/view/yes-yes-cat-gif-555799605331270828

[stone flax]

this is slightly different to how way heavier springs weaken the bump of a tactile

[tropic urchin]

80HE optimum case be like

[stone flax]

where in a heavier spring decreases perception of tactility as resistance from spring is heightened

uwu

[kind helm]

english bad maybe me no reading good. hows that different from what i said

[stone flax]

the imperfections still exist

your own force just overrides it

or any feeling of it existing

[kind helm]

yea

[stone flax]

imagine you pushing through and smoothing it out

since u placed more effort

x3

[stone flax]

depending on glarses’ spring length it can also play a factor

[scarlet rock]

is there a way just to get the silicone friction pad?

[kind helm]

idk i remember he found on ali think the only way you find something so random

[calm pulsar]

mUWUj have you found the 7u venOwOm plates yet

[stone flax]

nyo :<

i need a frog 7u w/ standoffs

[calm pulsar]

[calm pulsar]

maybe there are some from hyperboring

[mental salmon]

Hey Guys, is the Optimum case fully compatible with the old 60HE (not module)? wanted to fully check before buying

[stone flax]

none with frog tadpole points

:<

[glacial wind]

yeah

[stone flax]

just the 6.25u vers

:<<

[ruby hill]

Buy optimum or wait owlab

[glacial wind]

those very different aesthetics and price points

owlabs case probably 2x the price lol

[scarlet rock]

estimate release date for owlab?

[warped inlet]

would be really cool if the friction pad could be purchased separately @glossy pagoda

[kind helm]

hopefully not, the neo is pretty decently priced

[glacial wind]

neo is not owlabs though

[urban harbor]

owlabs pricing is not neo pricing

[glacial wind]

owlabs is a very very different beast lol

[kind helm]

arent qk and neo both from owlab

[glacial wind]

yeah but different price point releases

[urban harbor]

yeah, but the pricing tier is not the same

I think the last owlab product, just the case was like $430 or so

[glacial wind]

each brand has their own set of pricing. Owlabs is their super high end pricing

[ruby hill]

Owlab 2x price is not that bad if you can buy it at retail price

[urban harbor]

that was also an TKL keyboard, not 60%

[glacial wind]

if it were a QK/Neo you might have hope of buying the case cheap, but when it releases under the owlabs naming it's always expensive basically

[glossy pagoda]

[harsh dove]

It's included in the box

ah nvm, misunderstood

[ruby hill]

I’ve no idea why those China companies got so many sub brand

[silk hound]

I wait for owlab

[glacial wind]

lets them price things differently and experiment with things

for example owlabs does the design and tries out something first then later it comes down to QK/Neo at a lower price point

[ruby hill]

Neo and qk pricing are similar iirc

[glacial wind]

like the new qk80 v2 has a lot of owlabs vento elements to it

[stray tiger]

If anyone is looking for some new GMK sets, Novelkeys has a limited number of sets they acquired from SpaceCables going live in 1.5 hours for a great price

"We have a surprise drop of some sets that we picked up from Space Cables. Nightrunner, Hooty, Polybius, and Nightshade will be going in stock at 1pm Eastern.

All base kits will be $89 and all child kits (including any artisans) will be $10."

[calm pulsar]

thanks for the tip
my gmk cosmos is still on the way to Bigsly though

[ruby hill]

If the qk80v2 can remove those screen and swap back to keys will be perfect

The left screen is fine, but the right screen

[polar girder]

Lolol

[stray tiger]

ha we all have a long wait on Cosmos still. I do think my Rubrehose set will be here in about 2 weeks though

[polar girder]

Bro I might love them

[calm pulsar]

lol just goofing around

[polar girder]

But now that you understand. When??

[polar girder]

But I might not

[calm pulsar]

rubrehose looks super nice, I like the vintage vibe but with mods being gray

[harsh dove]

Never

[ruby hill]

im worrying about the grey color optimum case might not match with black keycaps

[polar girder]

Oh fk. that’s a shame.

[calm pulsar]

nah likely will fit nicely, at least my anodized gray tofu used to

optimum with gmk mtnu black blanks

might be nice

[ruby hill]

Mtnu beige

[calm pulsar]

yeah, sold out tho

[kind helm]

ic that would probably make sense for all the extra pieces they had on the case other than just the interesting mounting style

[calm pulsar]

thick

[polar girder]

That’s gorgeous

I love their new activity

SPK gonna get active

wtf is that case tho

[calm pulsar]

its just on the render but wouldnt be surprised if it exists

[polar girder]

Gotcha

Yeah maybe lol

[stray tiger]

Looks like a piggy60

[gilded isle]

Anyone else having this kind of problem?

[ruby hill]

1x Friction fit pad
Would it fits venom60he ?

[ruby hill]

Probably bent space bar
Take the spacebar to a surface and check it

[gilded isle]

Ohh! Is this warp?

Btw I tried the lekker60 with longpole stabs, it has no issue
Currently using jade pros

[ruby hill]

The spacebar looks fine

[kind helm]

may i ask what is the issue 0.0 i dont see any problem

[untold wigeon]

Appears to be sticking

[kind helm]

overlube, spam, done

[gilded isle]

Really can’t explain it, i’ll compare it with lekker

[ruby hill]

The spacebar not rebound normally

[kind helm]

the lekker you have is that 60g?

[gilded isle]

This is lekker60

[kind helm]

i think overlube, espeically if it works well with heavier spring

[gilded isle]

Hmmm this is stock tho factory lube

Tried it with other keys

[ruby hill]

Maybe your spacebar foam cause it?

[kind helm]

also maybe the spacebar is not centered when you put back in the key cap since jade pro is 3.5mm travel

[gilded isle]

No the foam is ok, it is also centered

[kind helm]

have you try with spare switches?

[gilded isle]

Yess

[ruby hill]

Try to reverse the spacebar

[kind helm]

then i really dont see what can make it sticky, i was thinking maybe that particular switch is fcked

[kind helm]

thats cope

it would sound different but it doesn't solve the issue

[ruby hill]

Problem solved?

[gilded isle]

It is still there huhuhu

[kind helm]

i legit can't tell if it is sticky, was this one "normal" from your perspective?

[ruby hill]

Or maybe the spacebar stem hole have a wrong angle?

[gilded isle]

They the same

[uneven thunder]

Does the new case have adjustable feet?

[kind helm]

ok then the switch itself is not fcked, if lekker works fine and factory lube, probably it wasn't that heavy of lube to begin with, so the stab is fine.

i think maybe due to the 3.5mm travel of the jade pro, you did not make sure the two sides are even or somethin

[gilded isle]

I am opening it right now

[ruby hill]

2x 4° feet
2x 7° feet

[gilded isle]

Will update

[kind helm]

you can try to grab the geon stem spacer for your stab, 5 buckies before shipping

[uneven thunder]

So it has swappable feet? That’s pretty cool

[kind helm]

would work nicely for your shorter travel switches

[ruby hill]

Sounds like it, but the video didn’t mention about that

[gilded isle]

I have longpole stabs tho tx ap

[kind helm]

oh you said factory lube i thought you are using stock stab

you meant factory lubed switch?

and you lubed your own stab?

[gilded isle]

Yes

[gilded isle]

No

[kind helm]

wait... so the stab in there is dry 0.0?

no way that s44t got 0 tick with no lube

[gilded isle]

I got them prelubed from a store

[kind helm]

damn didnt know thats a thing

maybe overlubed, lekker60 i think is slightly heavier than jade pro, which may make the issue less apparent.

just spam it a couple times overtime it should be fine

[oblique dagger]

Hope they sell the friction fit pad by itself soon, Getting the module Gummy o-ring mounted is a pain

[kind helm]

unless you wanna redo the stab lube yourself, but since you have them prelubed i assume that is not what you want to do

[ruby hill]

We need optimum 80

[glacial wind]

If you join the stonewashed church the chances of it increase

[polar girder]

lol what

[glacial wind]

We spread the good word of the stonewashed 80he upsized optimum case daily

[polar girder]

Such a good disciple @glacial wind

[glacial wind]

Every message plants itself in Calders mind. Together we shall grow our stonewashed 80he seed into a strong forest

[thorn zealot]

Is there any incentive for me to switch from my tofu redux to the optimum case

[kind helm]

personal opinion, tofu redux is better

[glacial wind]

It’s just aesthetics

Pick whatever case you like the look and feel of more

[harsh dove]

Can’t feel it if you don’t buy it

https://tenor.com/view/tkt-smart-gif-20642718

[thorn zealot]

Yeah not blowing my money out like that

[glacial wind]

Buy two so you can feel it with one per hand

[harsh dove]

That’s what I did

[stone elbow]

That optimum friction sandwich pad looks interesting, could it work on other cases?

[kind helm]

optimum case is lighter than tofu redux with brass weight (this would mean that optimum case would be worse at handling hollowness without foam) and since the wooting doesn't have cutouts, you cant really take advantage of the removeable standoffs until hopefully wooting60 pro can actually be good

also you got one color, and its grey

[harsh dove]

Should work on other cases that allow friction fitting/gummy o ring mod

[kind helm]

however, optimum keyboard has a whole do be looking clean, and the steel piece is pretty nice, so that is your tradeoff, higher price for certain look that some would prefer

[stone elbow]

Oh cool, will it be purchasable by itself in the futur?

[kind helm]

preference

[harsh dove]

[kind helm]

nah you said NEVER

[harsh dove]

https://tenor.com/view/joke-gif-5319542

[polar girder]

Dear god

Which one was a joke, bro??

Now I’m TRIPPING

[harsh dove]

https://tenor.com/view/hahahaha-gif-27342590

It's coming soon

[polar girder]

lol NICE

[gilded isle]

Found a fix hahaha used different screws for the plate

Thanks @ruby hill and @kind helm

[kind helm]

wait so it was sound problem rather than being sticky?

[gilded isle]

Yess

I am irritated for almost 2 weeks fixing that issue

Searched the internet for a fix

[kind helm]

yeee with the screw next to the space there keys cant sound as even compare to mx board

glad it worked out

[gilded isle]

I should have used the provided screws for the plate hahah

[rapid plume]

For a thocky sound does anyone have mod recommendations?

[kind helm]

i want to @ mj so bad on this one

see if the eboy mj can go through this one

[kind helm]

use the pc plate and poron foam if you haven't already

those things should make the board deeper sounding

[rapid plume]

I like a mix of creamy/thocky

[gilded isle]

Quick soundtest

[cedar gate]

Maybe try geon raws then

Not super creamy but poppy mostly

[gilded isle]

Recommended springs for geon raws?

[kind helm]

the springs in your lekker60

is better than the one in raws, IMO

[gilded isle]

Soo 60g?

[kind helm]

i think right now you have 3 options if you are considering only buying new springs. ali random< geon pingless< lekker

i am using the ones in lekkerv1 45g, i hear less ping there compare to raws, also lekker is like i think 1mm longer, not a big difference but personally i like longer springs for the more snappy return.

you probably dont have to use the 60g one if you dont feel like pulling them out of your lekker switch, i was just thinking of a cheaper hopefully better option for you

[rapid plume]

Any thoughts on the Sticky Rice V2 switches?

[kind helm]

wobbles a bit but sound decent imo

[rapid plume]

What'd they sound like? Pretty poppy? Clacky?

[kind helm]

i am just holding a sticky rice switch in my hand with a key cap attached to it

[gilded isle]

Thank you! I'll let my friend do this for me, I have no skills on lubing the switch tho hahaha, I am still looking for a perfect swithc, the jades are just scratchy for me, i'll try geon raws 50g, and Jade Gaming in the future.

[rapid plume]

I'm debating between the Gateron Jades or Geon Raws

Probably going to end up going with the Geon Raws

[kind helm]

W friend

[ruby hill]

Regular Jades can’t beat raw he, only jades pro can get a tie

[rapid plume]

Hmm, the Jade Pros sound too thocky

I'll stick with the Raw HE's then

[gilded isle]

Clacky broo hahaha

[rapid plume]

Either way, not really my preference XD

[gilded isle]

They say jade max, but it has sticking issue when pressed offset

[ruby hill]

Jade pro might be the most balanced of the jades series

[hybrid fable]

my 80he is a mix jade gaming on the outer keys and raw for alpha numeric. i've been liking the mix.

[uneven cradle]

Damn I was thinking about buying this set

[rapid plume]

Oh those are nice looking

[calm pulsar]

jade pros are great, maxes aint worth it
just choose between raws and pros based on sound preference, if you can figure it out from sound tests

[uneven cradle]

They are but that purple is not the same as the render at all

[rapid plume]

Worst case scenario, I have a ton of switches lying around

And am down $30-40

[tropic urchin]

+1 recommend from a sad former max owner

[rapid plume]

Do springs make a difference or is that personal preference?

[tropic urchin]

They can depending on what grams you get and how long. The newer Jade pro/max springs feel really good

And Geon pingless too but never tried it

[calm pulsar]

I find jade pro spring the best
its is longer and has snappier top out while being light, 45g
and I find they make the switch smooth

[tropic urchin]

Are the pros 45g and the maxes 55g for their springs?

[rapid plume]

I'm going to stick with whatever springs come in the Raw HE

[calm pulsar]

I think I saw 45g listed for pros

[rapid plume]

I don't have the patience to take out and put springs in

[tropic urchin]

I got scammed with 10 extra grams too then

All that gold plating smh

[tropic urchin]

It’s not bad but not worth getting the others to harvest their springs

[calm pulsar]

lol actually not sure, but I didnt notice any big diff between em

[tropic urchin]

I wonder what new switch Gateron is going to release

It’s been quiet

[calm pulsar]

“my silent switch genty weeps” is the next one

[tropic urchin]

F

[rapid plume]

Just ordered the Switches, time to wait

[spiral torrent]

Since there is no iso layout for the optimum case.. Does anyone know of keycaps that could match it colorwise?

[rapid plume]

I feel like any colors work

[ruby hill]

Try the keyboard simulator

[glad orchid]

would the friction pad be basically the same as gummy oring mount?

[tidal frigate]

Yes but it is wooting made

[cedar gate]

in theory yes

[stone flax]

OwO wdym in theory

[cedar gate]

Well in theory it has the same purpose of using friction to secure the module in the case However I haven't tried it so in practice having the gasket and sandwich pad being one may change things

I have no way of knowing till I try it

[stone flax]

;0

[polar girder]

In theory

[spice plover]

Where’s that friction fit pad bro I need it xD

[late solstice]

You have to order the Optimum case

[spice plover]

Will it ship out today ?

[stone flax]

:0

[lapis elm]

Are we not liking the Gateron Jade Max?

[stone flax]

not a good switch T-T

[lapis elm]

how come?

[spice plover]

Ooooo hell nah not waiting till December

[tropic urchin]

If you want a Gateron switch id look at the Jade Pro’s. Smoothness on maxes aren’t great

It’s more expensive for an objectively worse experience

[stone flax]

pom stem on pom housing causes sticking sensation in presses

[kind helm]

how dare you, what if i enjoy weird stickiness when i press my keys

[stone flax]

uwu

[tropic urchin]

Then Jade maxes are right for you /s

Coming from a former owner

Jade maxes are a cautionary tale to not pay the pioneer tax

[kind helm]

was jade max the first dual rail?

[tropic urchin]

Idk if it’s the first, but Gateron clings onto the dual rail feature for dear life

[jade storm]

today is the day

[next jetty]

I’m new to modding but should I upgrade the stock switches to L45? Ppl say it’s good.

also how many do I need for 60he

[kind helm]

grab ~70 would be good

[next jetty]

thanks

[stone flax]

no

hopefully the last

🙏

[tropic urchin]

Amen

[lapis elm]

Lol, I got the maxes. I think they are fine for typing, gaming especially FPS is bad because of the stickiness

[tropic urchin]

I harvested mine for the springs

[lapis elm]

They sound good though xD

[tropic urchin]

I really like the new spring feel for the pro/maxes

But the springs are the only thing that is good about the maxes unfortunately

Outside of RGB

[lapis elm]

Are they not fixable with additional lube?

[tropic urchin]

Ppl had the stickiness stock, it’s more of a problem with the design of the switches than a lube problem

What made me ditch them was comparing them to RAWs

They’re not smooth at all in comparison

It’s not close

You can enjoy the maxes if you don’t compare them to anything else, but when you do the issues become more apparent

[polar girder]

It’s a lighter spring. That’s all.

[next jetty]

alright

are cases even worth it btw?

like this optimum one is 200$ without tax

it’s kinda enticing but idk what’s THAT good about it lol

[kind helm]

optimum is decent, i personally think slightly on the expensive side but not too crazy

[next jetty]

I feel like I need a case, but are there any other good ones that you know?

[kind helm]

tofu60 redux is a good option too, 60 buckies before shipping

[next jetty]

hallelujah

[kind helm]

but tbh for he right now, talking about really good option for beginner at decent price, i personally think there is none :3

[next jetty]

it’s fine I need an investment one anyway

grinding 24/7 on osu with it

[kind helm]

you will need to mod it in order to really make it sound "good", that takes some time to learn about different things you can do :3

[brave epoch]

So I just bought the module for my 60HE, was wondering, is it worth tape modding or leaving just stock if I want a thocky-er sounds from my board

[stone flax]

feel
looks
sound

feel - friction pad acts like a less jank gummy o-ring for 60he and leads to more even typing sensation and balanced stiffness, case allows for 4 and 7 degree typing angle
looks - look at how the board looks and form opinion
sound - lots of foam options, option for fiction fit leads to more even sound

[polar girder]

No it’s not

[stone flax]

just decide whether changes in feel, looks, and sound are worth it for you

[kind helm]

i doubt it would be a big improvement compare to gummy oring

[jade storm]

average optimum shill

[stone flax]

its the same thing in principle

[next jetty]

great thanks 🙏

[next jetty]

It is in canadian monopoly money

[polar girder]

lol ok my bad

RIP

[kind helm]

actually now that you mention it and i kinda think about it, yea it is more beginner friendly

[next jetty]

okay that was case + keycaps tbf

170*

[jade storm]

is the video good

haven't watched it yet

what's the case about

over redux or something

[kind helm]

you dont have to buy oring seperately yourself, and the friction pad i would guess is easier to fit than gummy oring as well, especially with modular

[stone flax]

i dont doubt people did things like broke their usb port or pcb by misfitting an o-ring

only difference is that this forces you to more or less use the sillicone pad

rather than an o-ring which basically can go dampeningless

[kind helm]

once they sell the friction pad separately, i can't wait for turkeyson to do something to it

[polar girder]

Yeah I can’t recommend friction o-ring mount

Happy to recommend this new FFP once it drops as standalone

Buy a Wooting and a pc plate and a FFP and you’re Gucci honestly

New lekker v2 not bad

Maybe hand lube some stitches and oil some springs if you’re feeling fancy

[kind helm]

how fcked was it for you, because i own a plate mount pcb only and it works fine

also a bit of lube kinda helps it slide in more nicely

[polar girder]

Yeah if you buy module o-ring can be kind of scuffed

For me at least

[runic spoke]

Will that friction mount thing be sold separately though

[polar girder]

Yeah

[runic spoke]

Boutta get scammed on shipping lets go

[marsh saffron]

Oring friction mount is the only reason I don't know if I wanna get a new one for screw in stabs

Doesn't it not work the greatest with the right side stabs?

[polar girder]

I had issues

[kind helm]

i am just trying to imagine the difference, because what i can see from mine is it only touches the bodies of the switches on the top side, touches the screws on left and right side, then on the bottom i think only touches the bodies of the switches as well

[runic spoke]

Yeah I’ve heard that from bigsly and some reddit commenters

[marsh saffron]

Friction mount was one of the best decisions I made so far with my build

So happy with it

[runic spoke]

You used an oring?

[marsh saffron]

Yeah

[runic spoke]

Which one

[marsh saffron]

I have the non+ version though

[marsh saffron]

Graveshift size m 45a

[kind helm]

it kinda makes me scared since i do plan to try gummy oring mount with venom60he later on which has the cutouts for gummy oring

[runic spoke]

I have small graveshift 40A, fingers crossed it works when it arrives tomorrow

Otherwise now we know which one to order lol

[kind helm]

@stone flax can you enlighten me on this one ❤️

[stone flax]

o-rings dont play well with screwins

[marsh saffron]

The size m probably won't work if you have screw ins

[marsh saffron]

So I've heard

Can you get around it by just replacing the stabs with issues?

[stone flax]

bigger bulkier housings push the o-ring rather than let it recess, basically bulges out, particularly noticeable for stuff like enter key and spacebar with 60%’s depending on housing orientation

[runic spoke]

Yeah i was told to get size S 40-60A for screw-in compatibility , will report back

[marsh saffron]

Tbh I wish I went softer

[stone flax]

yea this is why clip-ins are recc’d for o-ring mounts

On pcb mount stabs

[marsh saffron]

45a is nice but I kinda wanna try 35a

[stone flax]

gives clearance for o-ring to actually wrap around properly

[marsh saffron]

Are clip ins supported on the module?

[quiet bay]

ye

[stone flax]

clip ins and screws ins yesh

[quiet bay]

if screw ins are compatible then clip ins are too

[stone flax]

theres holes on the pcb

[kind helm]

isnt Bakeneko60 also screwin, how is that different 0.0?

[marsh saffron]

Enough to continue using size m? Or would I still need to go down to small

[marsh saffron]

Nice to know

[stone flax]

wdym

[runic spoke]

Why

[fluid ravine]

Bakeneko kit comes with cherry clip ins

[stone flax]

screw and clip in are both mounted on the pcb, one just secures with friction and sometimes a tab while the other is screwed in from the underside

[quiet bay]

the friction pad wooting came up with is def creative

but i like my poron foam

[stone flax]

screw-ins can also have bulkier housings for the area that the o-ring should wrap around

[quiet bay]

and o ring combo

[stone flax]

ergo

[fluid ravine]

MJ is that you?!!

[stone flax]

o-ring problems on screw-ins but clip-ins

[stone flax]

nyeah

[fluid ravine]

Haha great name

[kind helm]

someone turned him into a eboy

[marsh saffron]

Idk I wanna try softer

[fluid ravine]

LMAO

[stone flax]

if forcing o-ring and screw ins u should opt for a thinner o-ring

[kind helm]

i thought housing is the problem according to mj

[stone flax]

or as a better choice

[runic spoke]

Can you take a pic of how rhe oring looks like on the pcb and dm me that if its not too much trouble ?

[stone flax]

just cop clip-ins