🔧│keyboard_modding

[kind helm]

IT GOT THE FLEX

[cedar gate]

honestly i dont care who even uses those buttons

[tidal frigate]

You can make Your own case with strap

[stoic canopy]

no idea, debating on getting it over the aim 60, would be my first keyboard case swap but theyre saying it would be compatible

[cedar gate]

bold of you to assume im that competant

[stoic canopy]

i just like the slope at the front like the oem 60he case compared to the aim60 one

aim 60

[tidal frigate]

I do not see flex at all

[kind helm]

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1Pj4ceKEB7/?vd_source=3d56135165dc0ee3bbd7729fb5e69f1b

around 1:00

watch out this maybe a scam site

[stoic canopy]

couldnt find a single build in that case, not even other modules even on reddit

maybe im ass at searching but yk i dont wanna drop big bucks on a case and not like it

[chilly mural]

mmm, dat flex

[tidal frigate]

Bruh

[kind helm]

looks like owlab being owlab they won't disappoint in the design of this thing

but the strap

EWWW

[chilly mural]

soo much vendetta

[kind helm]

btw supposedly the bounce is adjustable

that thing would be fun

[tidal frigate]

Where are you from

[stoic canopy]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/ephemeral-attachments/984799440072220692/1303062087161090089/bounce.gif

embed failur

[tidal frigate]

Ye calder said they have their own mounting system from their own silicone pad oring

[kind helm]

bro i am way too high to look at your avatar and that gif. makes my head spin

[kind helm]

i am guessing some sort of spring thing

oh yea that friction mount thing

meh

[tidal frigate]

It works simmiliar to oring tho

From z frontier

[kind helm]

i was talking about the case

[tidal frigate]

It is sold as whole

So

[stoic canopy]

@tidal frigate so what do you think about the case i sent ?

[tidal frigate]

@kind helm they made some weird friction mount

Basicly

[kind helm]

yea, one of the guy from wooting team showed it during the spooky build stream

[tidal frigate]

Thats wooting friction mount

That will be used in optimum tech collab

[kind helm]

oh you meant there is a different mounting

[tidal frigate]

Owlabs has their own

Which is "simmiliar" to friction mount

[kind helm]

yea the owlab one, the way that bounce reminds me of one of keybored's tofu build

with the spring

i am guessing something like that, or like some kind of leaf spring

[tidal frigate]

@kind helm i tried get as much information from calder i could

[kind helm]

is there like a different one from zfrontier

[tidal frigate]

I did it in stream

But he wasnt telling a lot

Just tried squize as much i can

[kind helm]

s44t i thought you meant you built one on twitch. i was like "you insider or something"

[tidal frigate]

You do not need insider

[long totem]

Hey so I was curious if I get the Geon Raw HE switches would I be able to use my base screw mounted stabs?

[tidal frigate]

Just ask calder right question at good moment

And if he dosent concentrate you get answer

[fluid ravine]

Yes you would be fine

[long totem]

Thank you, I kept getting different answers and finally just came here lol

[fluid ravine]

Switches and stabilizers are different components and they really shouldn't like counteract against each other in a way

I think the only thing you should be worried about when it comes to stabs with the wooting is the plate and pcb mount housing stab thickness

[long totem]

I understand that, I was under the assumption that the Geon's were long pole like the jades which wouldn't work for me do to me using drop keycaps ;-;

[fluid ravine]

TX ap and stabies for example tends to have fitment issues due the them having a housing thickness of 6.75mm while the wooting's plate allows 6.5mm

[ruby hill]

Yes, if you don’t care the keycaps will slightly offset when you press it strongly

[fluid ravine]

this is for the wooting60he btw

[fluid ravine]

oh yeah and this

that's more of a keycap problem

[stoic canopy]

i wanna pull the plug on this

[fluid ravine]

If you do have that seesaw problem just get yourself a new set of long pole stabs or the cheaper route of geon spacers

This problem usually happens with cheaper keycaps that has bad tolerance between the keycap and stabilizer stems

[ruby hill]

My GMK and SP also happens, but not the space bar
The 2U stabs

[long totem]

I thought that it was because of the stem of the switch and the stabilizers not being leveled?

[fluid ravine]

You're actually correct on this half

but other factors can come to play with this problem

[long totem]

Indeed fortunately drop has "nice" keycaps

jk they are nice

[fluid ravine]

Do understand this, normally switches have a total travel bottom out of 4mm. There are switches out there that have a shorter distance which are called "long pole switches". They're called long pole because the pole on the stem of the switch is made longer which gives it a clackier yet fuller sound while reducing the travel distance of the switch. In HE switches however, it's not exactly the same but kind of the same idea.
Normally when you're using a 4mm travel distance switch with your normal stabs, both bottom out at the same time no matter where you press it. But if you add a reduced travel distance switch with normal stabs, the switch will bottom out first while the stabs bottom out later or not even at all. And since the switch is right in the middle of the stabilizers, it can possibly make your keycap seesaw on top of the stabilizers and switch giving a unbalance sound and feel and over all weird experience.
Usually the best solution to this is to get Long pole stabilizers or Stem spacers. If you're using long pole stabilizers with reduced travel distance switch (or long pole switches), it allows both stabs and switch to bottom out at the same time as if they were normal stabs and switches with a 4mm travel distance.

i wrote this for somebody already

so it's just a copy and paste

[ionic breach]

time to add this into the copypasta

[fluid ravine]

[long totem]

[long totem]

Again thank you for the Info!

[fluid ravine]

Haven't been elaborating in paragraphs for a while now

[fluid ravine]

np

[ruby hill]

Stabs hit the bottom to keep the stem fully plugin keycaps
But if the stem not long enough it will offset when you press it too hard

Only thing you can do is change long pole stabs or add stem spacer

[fluid ravine]

@long totem but again depending on your keycap quality and what not, if they're good then they should work fine with normal stabs even with reduced travel switches

it'll sound uneven by chance esp with the spacebar but it still works

[long totem]

I was holding out that I wouldn't have to. Unfortunatly the jades have the stem problem so I will have the problem with the raw he I'll probably go with the spacers though!

[fluid ravine]

i've been running raws with normal travel distance stabs with gmk and they still work fine

[long totem]

https://tenor.com/view/copium-meme-pepe-frog-gif-26117735

[fluid ravine]

i do have a grudge with the fact they don't evenly bottom out but it still works

[long totem]

Yeah I unironically have OCD, that will not be happening

[ruby hill]

My GMK still got problem, when you try press left side or right side strongly

[fluid ravine]

it shifts right?

like crazy?

one side unattach from the stem

while the other stays

[ruby hill]

Very slightly not crazy, acceptable for most

[fluid ravine]

that's pretty unlucky then

[fluid ravine]

how slightly tho?

you got a video, im wondering

cus usually it can be pretty "bad"

but wiggle can be different

[ruby hill]

Hard to film it, its more like a feeling
And I added the stem spacer to solve it

[fluid ravine]

atleast you got it fixed

[ruby hill]

Or just don’t press too hard
Usually it’s fine

[cedar gate]

Any of you have a cool deskmat you can recommend me o

If I get a bonus I'm buying one

[ruby hill]

Artisan zero

[cedar gate]

Not a mouse pad I already have the zero

I want a deskmat

[ionic breach]

a lot

theme?

just a rough one

[cedar gate]

Black and red maybe Japanese style art would be cool thx

[kind helm]

i have fr4 plate and only cotton, no other foam. still deep as fck

cotton is too strong

[ruby hill]

Try the alu plate w/o cotton

[kind helm]

is there alu plate for wooting 60 plate mount?

i was gonna get cf plate this morning

divinikey doesn't have it anymore

[muted sapphire]

anyone w the 80he and the cerakeys here?

[kind helm]

i just realize there is pom plate for wooting 60 on ae

ae is goated

[ionic breach]

https://ilumkb.com/collections/deskmat/products/in-stock-higanbana-deskmat?variant=41016180998226
https://pantheonkeys.com/collections/deskmat/products/bismuth-stone-lion-deskmat
https://pantheonkeys.com/collections/deskmat/products/gmk-maroon-deskmats
https://ilumkb.com/products/warehousefinds-old-gmk-deskmats?variant=40972832243794
https://kbdfans.com/products/gmk-evil-dolch-the-split?variant=42707058131083 (find one in stoick)

@cedar gate lowkey nothing fitting specifically to that

[cedar gate]

First one Is cool

This was what I had In mind

[muted sapphire]

ewwwww

[ionic breach]

imo stick to smt simpler

[cedar gate]

Embracing my inner teenager

Idk I think it's cool and matches my keycaps

[muted sapphire]

ur gonna put an actual mousepad on top of that for ur mouse right?

[ruby hill]

With GMK red samurai will be perfect

[cedar gate]

Yes

[vague stag]

Where can you buy this cotton you speak of without frying the whole PCB

[cedar gate]

Crosshair

[muted sapphire]

then it's good

lmao

[ionic breach]

anywhere

[muted sapphire]

i thought u were gonna game on that

[kind helm]

according to thockson its fine

also i am typing on it right now

also asked chatgpt(i know it maybe wrong

but yea low key scared ngl

[vague stag]

Hahah 😂

I have a couple of pillows ready to be thrown out, but I do not dare to put that cotton into the case

[harsh dove]

Google is your friend

Use it

[fluid ravine]

@vague stag @kind helm been using polyfill in my board for a bajillion of years now

it's fine

and yes google is your best flipping friend

[harsh dove]

All my boards have polyfill

I hate foam

[fluid ravine]

a better friend than your sibilings

they're most honest

foam

[harsh dove]

lol

[vague stag]

But polyfil and cotton is not the same thing if I understand it correctly (used google, hence the question my dude) 😊

[harsh dove]

Correct

[cedar gate]

That would be 100% ewww my artisan zero rocks

[cedar gate]

https://letmegooglethat.com/?q=does+polyfill+fry+a+pcb

[harsh dove]

[vague stag]

Again, was asking about cotton and not polyfil

[fluid ravine]

wait that's pretty sick

[vague stag]

But nvm

[fluid ravine]

funny as well

[harsh dove]

I was saying use it as in use the polyfill

[cedar gate]

I learned from the best

[muted sapphire]

nice mousepad

[cedar gate]

Thockfather hit me with that once

[ionic breach]

he has cotton on hand i think

[cedar gate]

Thx

[fluid ravine]

well flip you then! haha

[harsh dove]

Cotton isn’t conductive either btw

[fluid ravine]

https://letmegooglethat.com/?q=Is+cotton+conductive%3F

yooooo

[cedar gate]

🤣

[fluid ravine]

im gonna have so much fun with this later

[harsh dove]

lol

[kind helm]

gummy oring, cotton, fr4 plate, tofu redux no brass weight, raw he with lekker v1 45g spring. me think not bad

[fluid ravine]

yeah not bad at all

[muted sapphire]

too expensive tho

[fluid ravine]

mines sound pretty meh

coming from me it's pretty disappointing

[kind helm]

i love how yours sound

at least from the video you showed

[fluid ravine]

i have high expectations nowadays

[kind helm]

i would like mine to be a bit higher pitched actually, but ngl this is pretty cool too. simple setup

after i lubed my gummy oring, this s44t will fall out if i flip it upside down

xD

[cedar gate]

I would say it's worth it I mean 45$ for XXL isn't bad

[muted sapphire]

WHAT

45?💀

[fluid ravine]

that's not a lot lol

[muted sapphire]

maybe that's cuz ur in the us

[fluid ravine]

or that

[muted sapphire]

in europe for less than 80 euros ur not getting

[muted sapphire]

that's giga cheap

[fluid ravine]

yeah

we get decent mousepads for that price as well

like saturn pro or what not

[muted sapphire]

lemme look for how much i can get it on amazon rn

[fluid ravine]

i think $60 and up is where shit gets expensive

me over here wanting a glass pad lol

[robust siren]

what am i looking at 💀 (artisan-jp.com)

[muted sapphire]

o hell nah

[fluid ravine]

heard that it's best not to buy artisans from amazon

but idk

some sell fakes

[cedar gate]

Amazon artisans SUCK

[muted sapphire]

no no i am just tryina see how much it is there

[muted sapphire]

lmao

[fluid ravine]

yup there we go

[kind helm]

@fluid ravine think cf plate good? i am thinking about getting that instead of the brass weight

[muted sapphire]

so many sellers wtf

[fluid ravine]

to make your board sound brighter?

[kind helm]

with cotton there pretty much no echo i don't need the brass weight anymroe :3

[cedar gate]

They're so expensive marked up

Like a medium is 50$

[kind helm]

yeee

i think fr4 is too low pitch with cotton

[cedar gate]

An XXL on shop is 45

[fluid ravine]

i mean cf is a good choice if you're looking into making your board to sound brighter

brightest plate out of the bunch

im thinking of getting alu as my next plate

[robust siren]

hmmm

[fluid ravine]

whenever that's going to happen

[muted sapphire]

without shipping

[fluid ravine]

fr4 pretty neutral

[kind helm]

i just worry in terms of "it is gonna be too high pitched" xD

[muted sapphire]

like i am getting fucked over here

[fluid ravine]

yeah i feel you there tbh

[muted sapphire]

do you guys like the new gateron switches?

idk how to feel about some of them

[fluid ravine]

pc is literally the zombie boss of a video game

is makes the raws sound dead af

[muted sapphire]

i still think the raws or the dashes are the best

[muted sapphire]

NOOOOOOOO

[fluid ravine]

it really does lol

[muted sapphire]

wich ones

[kind helm]

i think also due to raw being open bottom

[fluid ravine]

wdym

[fluid ravine]

not really

[kind helm]

i agree

[muted sapphire]

can't unsell and unpay my raws

[fluid ravine]

like sure if you add tape mod or wtv it's a bit diff

[muted sapphire]

unlucky

[fluid ravine]

but naturally it's dead as hell

Switching to cf plate was a good choice

[muted sapphire]

what if i put some really overpriced and ass ceramic keycaps on top of those?

[kind helm]

thats what i wanted to hear

push me to burn my wallet

YES

[fluid ravine]

ask frijoles

[fluid ravine]

but by chance i might prefer alu

by chance

it has a more lively sound to it

[muted sapphire]

who's that

[fluid ravine]

and im not gonna run any foam so it'll make it better for me

just a thoery

[kind helm]

also i right now have pc plate, fr4 plate is a tiny bit broken on one side(the shape is still normal not bent or anything so i am still using it

cotton/polyfill in my head also foam

:3

[fluid ravine]

@untold wigeon

[muted sapphire]

:3

[muted sapphire]

is that some dumbass that bought the cerakeys?

[kind helm]

LMAO

[muted sapphire]

i need to find other people like me

[fluid ravine]

ok not "dumbass"

that's a bit rude but yes he does have cerakeys

[robust siren]

[muted sapphire]

am joking

[fluid ravine]

pochizo made the best choice of getting cerakeys

apparently her luck is out of this world with her set

[muted sapphire]

i like the way they make ur keyboard sound

[muted sapphire]

my set is good too

IF NOT FOR

[fluid ravine]

me still being disappointed

my spacebar shitty as hell

[kind helm]

i gonna get cf plate if divinikey can cancel my order for the brass weight(not sure if i mentioned that part i haven't slept since i woke up on saturday night). then i have pc plate in hand for wooting. fr4 plate and alu plate coming for venom

[muted sapphire]

lmao how

[fluid ravine]

i thought i would be done with my build but NOPE

[muted sapphire]

did u take all the precautions

[kind helm]

i get to experience every kind of plate

hehehe~

[fluid ravine]

i actually need more SHIT appartently

[muted sapphire]

ayo

[kind helm]

WHAT

[calm pulsar]

it's always the case hehe

[muted sapphire]

true

[fluid ravine]

yeah...................................

[muted sapphire]

I bought some lube

[fluid ravine]

Think a major upgrade rn is to get a 60he+ pcb with pcb mounted stabs

that will save me most of the trouble

for sure

[muted sapphire]

for the stabs and the keycaps where I'll do the spring swap

[fluid ravine]

then 2 things i would want would be alu plate and ofc a new case like arc said

[fluid ravine]

ah shit i need some lube as well

[kind helm]

you in sg right @fluid ravine

[fluid ravine]

?

[kind helm]

maybe get venom instead from cn or kr

cheaper

better

[fluid ravine]

Im in NA

[kind helm]

ah still cheaper

probably takes longer to get though

the shipping is slower than wooting i think

[fluid ravine]

I've been having my wooting for almost 2 years now

[kind helm]

i am waiting on venom, if this goes well i would highly recommend to others too

[fluid ravine]

again im just planning to sell my pcb to someone and buy a 60he+ from someone else

which i think i have planned out already

[muted sapphire]

lol

[fluid ravine]

i just need approval from my parents

[kind helm]

because i got 2 plates and a set of foam and the pcb itself from taobao.

[fluid ravine]

which is the most toughest part

[kind helm]

120

after shipping

still cheaper than wooting module

[fluid ravine]

how much the venom pcb

[kind helm]

70 something

even cheaper if you can somehow get it from the kr site

[fluid ravine]

just the pcb itselfd?

[kind helm]

yee

[muted sapphire]

they are gonna approve the keyboard

[kind helm]

120 is pcb + plates + foam + shipping

[calm pulsar]

holy shit venom pcb is 49 dollars in korea, on discount

[muted sapphire]

orrrr

[viscid gulch]

just got skates for my mouse for the first time and there is actually a huge change

[muted sapphire]

HEAR ME OUT

120 is ALMOST A CERAKEY A+B SET

[kind helm]

yea if you can get from kr that would be better i think

[muted sapphire]

hear me out

[viscid gulch]

also why would you want a venom pcb? im curious

[kind helm]

i want screw in holes, i think thackson similar, pretty much just looking for an update

[muted sapphire]

ayo 😳

[kind helm]

WHAT

YOU CAN'T SEE THE WORD HOLE?

[viscid gulch]

https://imgur.com/a/f2-84-w-venom-he-tkl-pcb-ag1XmQe

this does sound good indeed

F2-84 w/ Venom HE TKL PCB

fuck u cant hear

[fluid ravine]

gif sob

[kind helm]

bro sent a gif

that sounds good

LMAO

[viscid gulch]

ssshttps://imgur.com/a/f2-84-w-venom-he-tkl-pcb-ag1XmQe

[fluid ravine]

mmm

[calm pulsar]

I managed to click the link lol

[viscid gulch]

tehere

its an imgur

[fluid ravine]

interesante

[muted sapphire]

ur italian?

[fluid ravine]

no LOL

i just say it for fun

[muted sapphire]

mhhhh

interesante

[fluid ravine]

habit from a friend

[calm pulsar]

8khz, gummy oring cutouts, ability to install in both gh60 and middle usb port cases
split backspace, 7u layout

these are main differences

[viscid gulch]

but different pcb so different software? how good is that software

[fluid ravine]

venom goated

[calm pulsar]

also no rgb on venom

[fluid ravine]

i just dont know much about the software

[kind helm]

venom wins again here, making a TKL like normal thinking people instead of some random ass layout that companies has to accomdate with

[calm pulsar]

not as cute as wootility, but I managed to do all the configurations I had on wooting

[viscid gulch]

nice

[fluid ravine]

performs similary in a way?

[calm pulsar]

even a bit more parameters

[fluid ravine]

interesting

[viscid gulch]

i just see wooting as a customizable but very good software HE keyboard

[calm pulsar]

like 0.05 steps in actuation setup, and a page where you can monitor actual travel of the switch

[fluid ravine]

what the hell

0.05 😭

blow on it fr

[sacred elm]

0.05 damn 😭 (nobody cares)

[kind helm]

xD i mean its better to have that option

[kind helm]

so you can choose to blow on it or nah

[calm pulsar]

nah actually 0.10 is the lowest lul

[fluid ravine]

oh

[calm pulsar]

but the steps are 0.05

[sacred elm]

Yea and also you can monitor switch travel on wooting too

[calm pulsar]

I mean Sander asked what are the features of venom lol, no need to get salty

[sacred elm]

I am not salty

[harsh dove]

We like Geon around here

[fluid ravine]

very sweet

and bitter

[kind helm]

do you have any sound test for your board, just curious :3

[calm pulsar]

updating firmware is funny on venom though

[cedar gate]

Huh maybe I was mistaken

[calm pulsar]

you gotta take out the pcb and press the bootloader button on it in order to update firmware

[robust siren]

its 45$ for the large

[kind helm]

like updating bios for motherboard

[harsh dove]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/984799440072220692/1280236954608467989/2024-07-25_22-38-24.mp4?ex=672a6793&is=67291613&hm=c450e1a0ca3273ded9800dde4607a08f4f2ff0660ef46b4e40916e48a40ef9e2&

[cedar gate]

Oh on Amazon just the xl is 80

[sacred elm]

CAM which switches are those?

[harsh dove]

Raws

[kind helm]

probably raw

yea

[sacred elm]

chad

[calm pulsar]

plastic plate?

[harsh dove]

Pom

So yeah

[calm pulsar]

damn I gotta make some softer plates for venom too
alu is great but having some soft ones is great too

[kind helm]

whats the case? did you poly fill this?

[harsh dove]

Frog mini

Don’t think this has polyfill in it

[calm pulsar]

froggie 🐸

[kind helm]

yee sound different from poly fill boards

thought you have something similar to thackson, like polyfill + a really bright plate

[harsh dove]

Yeah I either use polyfill or nothing

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/984799440072220692/1286530377820803072/2024-09-19_21-28-08.mp4?ex=672a3a88&is=6728e908&hm=61c2d8c4c9c3d1cb46e79b87ead78b8aae99e082fe39fc7e3f3d04ee35abaff8&

This is Jade Pros in the 461E Gasket Mount

Pom plate in this too

[calm pulsar]

maxes in a stiffer plate sound similar to raws in a soft plate

it's like the switch itself is soft lol

[kind helm]

you don't think polyfill mutes the sound in a way, thats kinda essentially what i am hoping to avoid, let the plate and switch does its thing without foam and other things muddy things up

including hollowness

[calm pulsar]

yeah polyfill is nice that it doesnt affect the sound a lot like foams, just removes some hollowness

[harsh dove]

Yeah they do

[harsh dove]

Polyfill helps curb the high frequency sounds, helping the board sound deeper overall but not foamy like foam does

[kind helm]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SkkAtWMDO6Y just found this video for a comparison between the two

if i haven't lost my mind yet, poly seems to be higher pitch

compare to cotton that is

[calm pulsar]

wait why would he use no case foam with cotton, but eva foam with polyfill?

[kind helm]

there is a differen test later

in the video

[calm pulsar]

ah

[kind helm]

@harsh dove you got a link for the stuff you use?

hopefully its from amazon then i can try that soon

i think maybe i just do something similar with thackson's board instead of the brass, i tried the burger mount just a few moments ago, even more janky than friction mount

[calm pulsar]

yeah its less poppy when he removes the EVA foam
I feel like the "poppyness" comes from multiple layers of diff shit 😄
no matter what you put in there, if you stuff your whole board with foams/sheets, it's going to reflect the sound back at you

[kind helm]

NO LIKE POPPY

i feel like anything relatively okay linear can become poppy once a bunch of foams are in there

[calm pulsar]

yeah

its kinda boring at this point

no foam gang

[kind helm]

i just feel like if all the foams take out the characteristic you get from spending money on case and switch, why get the good ones, just grab the cheaper thing on aliexpress and call it a day

[harsh dove]

https://a.co/d/dsZFuAS

[harsh dove]

Yeah friction mount is better than burger

[meager pilot]

ey anyone knows a good aluminium case for the 60he

[glossy pagoda]

Alumaze60

[kind helm]

thats the keybored one

[cedar gate]

totally unbiased🤣

[cedar gate]

alumaze and tofu redux are the most popular choices i personally prefer the simplistic and premium look of the tofu

[kind helm]

so umm... i teared up the cotton after watching keybored's video

[meager pilot]

do you have a link?

[kind helm]

and it kinda worked

SCIENCE IS SO BEAUTIFUL

[cedar gate]

https://kbdfans.com/collections/tofu60-redux/products/tofu60-redux-case?variant=41472688193675

https://wooting.io/product/alumaze60?Color=Just+Black

[meager pilot]

thx bro

[harsh dove]

yeah

that what I use

[old pier]

Is it possible to pe foam mod a 60he+ using pe foam pads? I’ve heard that they cause actuation issues and double clicking but not sure

[kind helm]

i rewatched the ** Aerospace Engineer Explains Mechanical Keyboards ** which i personally consider as the holy bible of keyboard modding. i just tear up the cotton and make sure air can somewhat go through

[exotic inlet]

Is there a risk of esd with those?

[kind helm]

now less hollowness while not being too low pitch

[stone flax]

why would u buy from amazon

[meager pilot]

@cedar gate are these required?

[kind helm]

beautiful

[cedar gate]

no but they improve sound

fr4 is great

[meager pilot]

oh okee thx very mutch bro

[cedar gate]

idk thats just dumb imo the markup is crazy

[old pier]

Also any good switch recs with 4mm travel?

[cedar gate]

oh and brass weight is basically essential because of how much of an improvement it makes so unless your budget is really tight i would get that

[harsh dove]

Technically yes, but wooting pcb has ESD and EMI protection

[untold wigeon]

What?

[calm pulsar]

just what I need

[untold wigeon]

@calm pulsar do you sleep with a pillow?

[calm pulsar]

ofc

[untold wigeon]

No need to pay for it then. lol

Open it up and take some

[calm pulsar]

lol I mean I wouldnt want to mess up my pillow

[untold wigeon]

How much you planning on putting in there

You need like a 1/4 of a fistful

[untold wigeon]

That’s way more than I used

[kind helm]

think i can make this thinner even?

show me yours :3

[stone flax]

i thought the point of polyfill was that it was less dense than traditional foams

oops wrong tag

was meant for the image

[untold wigeon]

I don’t feel like taking it apart right now

[stone flax]

but gyattt

[calm pulsar]

yeah I understand I need very little, also my pillow seems to be the sealed kind, and I can see there are very small packs on AE

[stone flax]

its packed in there

[untold wigeon]

https://tenor.com/view/knife-gif-22561522

[kind helm]

which image?

[untold wigeon]

lol jk

[calm pulsar]

I found a 25g pack

[kind helm]

i am pretty much spreading out what i had originally based on the idea mentioned in keyboard's video. if you blow air against the "foam", the air can pass through then it works well with hollowness

[calm pulsar]

I don't even need it rn to be honest lol
just nice to have modifiers

but im very satisfied with my current build

[kind helm]

typical rich person, buying things just in case

[calm pulsar]

more like don't have my own house yet xd

[kind helm]

maybe i am too young still but i rather rent

dont wanna get caged by the bank and job

me a navie navie young man

[calm pulsar]

yeah I mean it is looking more and more like affording your own house is impossible for an average person, be it US or Russia lol

[vague stag]

do you feel that the tape mod changes the sound profile of the 60HE? I tried it (3 layers) and did not hear a great difference. However, i have not tried it with my geon raws though (using a Tofu60 redux)

[muted sapphire]

AYOOOOO

this guy

[calm pulsar]

brother can't comprehend a normal message💀

[kind helm]

@fluid ravine i tried so hard to recreate what you did with the bounce

then i went to look at the video again

BRO DIDN'T PLUG IN HIS CABLE

[devout torrent]

wdym just use wooting wireless

simple

[calm pulsar]

lmao exposed

[fluid ravine]

?

[calm pulsar]

but his video with the plugged board still had bounce

[fluid ravine]

Yeah

My shit still bounces with the cable

Why would it be any different?

[kind helm]

[fluid ravine]

What the flip

[calm pulsar]

da hail

[kind helm]

cotton gasket lmao

[fluid ravine]

[kind helm]

smo bounce only

[devout torrent]

sus

[kind helm]

your s44t big boi bounce

[fluid ravine]

Ok shark-

Tf is s44t 😭

[kind helm]

shit*

[fluid ravine]

Ah

Kk

[devout torrent]

I'm 4 pags into search trying to find this typing vid

and ive only gone back a couple hours in messages

someone pls explain context

[kind helm]

wait nah

[fluid ravine]

There it bounced with a cable this time

[kind helm]

okay

[fluid ravine]

Huh 😭

[kind helm]

i was gonna say your whole video on youtube was unplugged

[calm pulsar]

the whole board bounces here too

[devout torrent]

what case is that?

[calm pulsar]

the case as well I mean

[kind helm]

thought i was getting gaslight

[fluid ravine]

Yeah

It's cus of the keebmat

[calm pulsar]

but the pcb assembly still bounces quite a bit

[kind helm]

how tf did this shit bounce like that with polyfill

[fluid ravine]

A GH60 ALU case from aliexpress

[kind helm]

the thing is soft bro

[fluid ravine]

Pretty much a tofu v1 clone

[calm pulsar]

friction mount

[kind helm]

me doing that too

[devout torrent]

gonna put springs in my cse

call it mattress mount

[kind helm]

maybe because of the gummy oring i am using

[fluid ravine]

without keebmat

[calm pulsar]

yeah I used to have a shitty one from aliexpress and it was firm af

but still nicer than tray mount lol

[kind helm]

also probably because i didn't cut off the stand offs

[fluid ravine]

nah

even after cutting the standoffs

it didnt even make that much of a difference

[kind helm]

that is what i was thinking before since if you have bounce that means the whole thing is taller

or whatever the word is

[fluid ravine]

correcto

[kind helm]

i haven't slept for close to 48 hours now

my brain is brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

broken

[calm pulsar]

tf

go to sleep

https://tenor.com/view/bedge-pepe-sleep-gif-24023312

[kind helm]

me research, then code, then research, then keyboard research, then modding, then more keyboard research. i was gonna sleep like 4 hours ago then i was too busy with getting that sound i want

LOL

[tulip rapids]

thats not good

[kind helm]

maybe it is easier to get the bounce with polyfill

due to the texture

[stone flax]

:<

thockheads doing it again

[calm pulsar]

the promised thock out there frying people's brains💀

[tropic urchin]

thock is so 2022, its time for heavenly 2025

https://tenor.com/view/cap-gif-26420892

[kind helm]

just gonna leave it like this for now, its 2 pads of cotton spread out, original the much deeper one i didn't spread out the cotton at all i just lay like 10 pads at the bottom. fck the bounce. think its gonna be good with a cf plate to even things out

[kind helm]

if you still have the link for where you brought the polyfill let me know please, i wanna recreate what you did :3

[fluid ravine]

did cam send a link to the polyfill earlier?

[kind helm]

not sure how the texture can affect the way your thing work, me with no understanding of material is still amazed by how polyfill can make keyboard bounce

[fluid ravine]

@kind helm

i bought the same one

[kind helm]

aye

[calm pulsar]

it's not really polyfill I think, the oring is likely doing the most work

like if the board doesnt bounce in the first place, how would polyfill make it bounce?

[fluid ravine]

you can make it bounce with tray mount

i've done it before

no o'ringw

just

screws

[kind helm]

this dude knows voodoo

i am convinced this dude knows voodoo magic

time for bed. see yall at midnight

[calm pulsar]

still typing

mods mute him so he can get some sleep

[kind helm]

chatgpt says polyfill is better than cotton at retaining its shape

sorry sir! i will disappear

[calm pulsar]

gn gn 😄

[tropic urchin]

bros taking hipyo's next video idea of filling his keyboard with cotton balls

[old pier]

has anyone added pe foam in to a 60he?

[untold wigeon]

https://tenor.com/view/harry-potter-dont-speak-his-name-gif-12688511

[tropic urchin]

https://tenor.com/view/who-dat-snoop-gif-15116696

[untold wigeon]

https://tenor.com/view/exactly-nailed-it-yes-correct-sassy-gif-14093721688277362796

[jagged hazel]

Keycaps finally came in

[fluid ravine]

What set are these?

Theyre interesting

[stone flax]

looks like mw heresy

[jagged hazel]

Yup^

Fits my vibe and setup style so had to grab them before it went out out stock

[drowsy meteor]

Is there any issue with mixing switches?

Like raws and maxes?

[cosmic torrent]

Like same company?

[drowsy meteor]

I have maxes and I have 10 raws

I don’t have more that why I was wondering

[calm pulsar]

just try them out, sometimes you can't tell what can be mixed and what not

but I know maxes can't really be mixed with raws, cause maxes are dual rail

if you had jades pros you could try doing some mixing with raws, but it would just make tolerances worse

[drowsy meteor]

I just thought it would give me a little more leniency on my main keys

I just wanted to make sure it would not be doing damage or something

[calm pulsar]

it wont really do damage if you try fitting them together, but you will notice that the stem gets stuck at the bottom

so maxes with raws aren't really viable in terms of frankenswitching

I do have a frankenswitch that consists with jade bottom, raw stem and black knight top, I know this works together

no parts from raws will fit with maxes pretty much

[drowsy meteor]

Oh no I wasn’t frakenswitching them

I was just putting them on the same board

[calm pulsar]

ohh damn

[tropic urchin]

My god switches are back in NJ

[drowsy meteor]

😂 I was just worried because they had different stem lengths

[calm pulsar]

well this would depend on if you like raws or not, there won't be any issues apart from different feel and sound on them

[drowsy meteor]

Yeah I think they sound good different but not bad I just thought they are supposed to have less stem wobble

[pulsar schooner]

Oooo. Restock notice plus 80HE specific size

Insta buy

[drowsy meteor]

I just bought a keebmat

[fluid ravine]

exciting

[fluid ravine]

omg i luv k33bs for this

[drowsy meteor]

😂 now I need to buy another rip

Medium gray or light gray?

[fluid ravine]

what 80he color you have

[drowsy meteor]

Zinc

Raw

My keycaps are zen ponds

[fluid ravine]

light

[stark osprey]

Sneak peek: artisans from S.Korea just came in. The packaging alone is unreal.

[drowsy meteor]

Well shit thanks just got another one 😂 I guess this one is felt this time which is nicer quality

I have a tkl one

[dapper hazel]

wait for the discount day on wednesday

[drowsy meteor]

Shit just ordered oh well

Fomo got me

[tropic urchin]

That looks like nice Japanese whiskey packaging

[stark osprey]

Haha yeah wax stamps and all, cant wait to put this on the new keeb.

[tropic urchin]

What did you end up getting 👀

[stark osprey]

Zinc Raw 80HE, mine got delayed a bit since switching case color, but expected later this month

[tropic urchin]

What artisans did you get to pair

I got an opal gemstone keycap and I can’t wait to put it on mine

[stark osprey]

Wow nice, from same artist? Haha will have to wait and see. I went a little nuts

[tropic urchin]

I got mine from keycap quarry curtousy of the thockfather

[stark osprey]

Wow that's very nice! Curious which set youll be pairing that with.

[tropic urchin]

GMK lazurite (gold space bar) + white zinc 80HE

Gonna be a while before it arrives but it’s going to be heavenly

[stark osprey]

Yeah I had to look up that set, gonna be awesome. Colorway is definitely nice!

[tropic urchin]

Ye it’s from a 2021 group buy, practically ancient and impossible to find the novelties online

I’m going for left half white calcites + white novelties and right side blue lazurite and blue novelties

I also got the knight v2 clear stabs, it’s gonna be sick af

[stark osprey]

Yeah definitely know that pain haha, hunted the blot novelties for a few weeks before finally landing them. Cant wait to see your build now , please post pix when everything comes in!

[tropic urchin]

I gotchu 🔥

What switches did you settle for

[stark osprey]

I've been using Aligner's monochrome recipe since July, been really happy with them. Im assuming you're on a frankenswitch too based on your handle?

(Geon Raw x Black Knights)

[tropic urchin]

Very astute

Yeah, arc inspired me with his Jade knight build to create my own

I originally had the maxes then got raws as back up. Ended up liking raws more so I’m harvesting the jade max springs

I got Deng god switches for their bottom and top housing (same materials as Jade pros) + Jade max spring and RAW stem

So I’ll be creating my own Jade pros with RAW stem

[wild hemlock]

nerd

[tropic urchin]

Not wrong

[wild hemlock]

nothing wrong with it

[tropic urchin]

I’m on the spectrum with this board for sure

I blame @calm pulsar

[wild hemlock]

yeah well my bad if it was a bit rude 😭 its too late to have common sense

[calm pulsar]

[tropic urchin]

All good

[stark osprey]

Haha I took no offense, I am guilty as charged.

[wild hemlock]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/990717651342999623/1166012678259625994/togif-2.gif

god damn im an idiot

Arc shut up you do frankenswitch

nerdy boy

[calm pulsar]

no you shut up (this message was typed on a frankenswitch)

[wild hemlock]

hope your stem wobble increases over time 😠

[calm pulsar]

hope your venom gets seized by customs

[wild hemlock]

sorry that was uncalled for

my bad

[calm pulsar]

lmao

[tropic urchin]

That’s fucked 💀

[calm pulsar]

these days they just work with those who sign the contract, so all good

[tropic urchin]

I approve the petty

[wild hemlock]

i dont know you enough to continue this 😭

give me help

[calm pulsar]

I root for Kamala

[wild hemlock]

so do i

[quasi hinge]

and joe boden

[calm pulsar]

yikes that was a joke, hope your kamala aint winning

xdd

[tropic urchin]

Don’t worry we’ll know who won by the time my 80HE arrives

Perfectly normal

[wild hemlock]

they will probably start a new election before that 💀

[quasi hinge]

Yeah seems a bit wild the current pres of the us has dementia and her plus everyone else is just quiet lol

[tropic urchin]

Who needs Election Day when you have ✨election month✨

[calm pulsar]

who needs elections amirite 💀

[wild hemlock]

wh yu want 980he?

70he*

80he*

[tropic urchin]

https://tenor.com/view/joseph-stalin-hats-off-sending-off-gif-15305690

[wild hemlock]

yeah screw this im going to sleep

goodnight yall

[tropic urchin]

Ha?

[calm pulsar]

https://tenor.com/view/bedge-pepe-sleep-gif-24023312

[wild hemlock]

hope you get aids arcsyko

in your sleep

[calm pulsar]

[tropic urchin]

https://tenor.com/view/out-of-pocket-gif-12313754

I’m probably to blame for this so I should probably go to bed too 💀

[wild hemlock]

sleep tight 🙂

https://tenor.com/view/angry-cat-angrycat-orange-orangecat-gif-12955247756667881418

[dapper hazel]

its an industrial standard tape that has to be cut and separated by hand... that's expensive. the film is 3 parts in one, that makes it 360 parts in one bag, that's actually saving you money ;)

[calm pulsar]

oh well it's nice that it comes in such amount of pieces then
still a whole sheets seems kinda easier, but I also understand it has to be made for a certain layout

[dapper hazel]

well if you had a 60% it would be easier

keeptape? its easy, you just apply it

it doesnt have to be covering the pcb, you just want to cover the switches

you want to prevent air going through the pcb

the complaint in the video is actually the first time ive ever seen anyone complain about the application :D

we're 2 years in now I think haha

its a good product, just have to read the manual I guess

but I'll add a note about those little chips

[calm pulsar]

oh I was thinking about "thockfilms" rn 😄

personally I feel like I wouldn't have issues with what the guy had to go through in the video
also 100% wooting is an older one and wasn't really made with much customizability in mind

so cutting some holes for screws or clips is perfectly fine by me

yeah damn the guy in the video is being an asshole tbh

[dapper hazel]

yeah he must have missed the manul, its super easy if you do it beforehand haha

thockfilms, what you mean with sheet would be easier?

oh you mean around the switches?

or the pcb?

yeah i guess

but then it would be a pain to align haha

thinking about it

[calm pulsar]

yeah I generally meant applying a whole sheet is easier, but also has to be accounted for many diff layouts and variations of layouts, so single films also are viable

[dapper hazel]

yeah youd need a plate sheet then and a pcb sheet and the switch films itself

its just all optional

theres also 16 washers in the bag to adjust for any height differences :)

oh and theres always discounts going on, so its not actually the price... like on wednesday is an hour 25% off and all day 20%

[marsh granite]

I got new l45 switches for my wooting and it sounds great but the spacebar sounds horrid; any keyboard mod suggestions?

I did the tape mod and bandaid mod

there's just a lot of rattle/loud clack when I press it

[quasi hinge]

Get Geon Raws and TX 1.6 long pole stabs

I think you will find most people will recommend the Raws

close runner up is the jades but they had their time (absolutely do not get jade Maxs)

[quasi hinge]

I have them in my 80he and 60he+ if that helps

I used the Raw 50g and its the most popular but its personal preference

[robust siren]

for the rattle, you can try balancing and relubing the stabs

[marsh granite]

unfortunately i dont have any lube

[robust siren]

for the clack/hollow sound you can try foam in the spacebar

[marsh granite]

i already tried it but it didn't turn out so well

[marsh granite]

mk

[robust siren]

oof

[marsh granite]

do you have a link for the stabilizers?

[quasi hinge]

https://www.alexotos.com/keyboard-vendor-list/

[marsh granite]

ty

[quasi hinge]

depends where you live

[marsh granite]

us

[robust siren]

heres a demo of raws + sw knights

its a bit loud

[marsh granite]

sounds good enough for me

[quasi hinge]

@robust siren might be able to guide you for us store

[robust siren]

you can try divinkeys

[marsh granite]

the l45v3 switches are a huge improvement from the l60v1 switches

imo

they sound way better

[robust siren]

or pbtfans aliexpress store

[quasi hinge]

wait for the raws

[robust siren]

for geon raws

sw knights tho are hard to find

theyre sold out most places

[robust siren]

divinikey should stock both geon raws and tx ap stabilziers

and they also have the tofu+weight+plate

so you get free shipping and its all from 1 website

i got my sw knight stabilizers from mechanicalkeyboards buy im not sure when theyll restock

[marsh granite]

$18 dang

for the stabs

[robust siren]

yeahh, thats why id suggest lube and balance instead

205g0 or dielectric grease can cost the same as stabs or not more

but balancing wires is free

and takes at most 20 minutes

[calm pulsar]

USE STOCK STABILIZEERSDF

[ionic breach]

https://tenor.com/view/venom-gif-27487650

[robust siren]

https://tenor.com/view/the-voices-call-calling-gif-4030050527221884737

[ionic breach]

just lube and balance ur current wire

[robust siren]

that is indeed what i said

[ionic breach]

its not like buying a new stab would solve anything for certain anyways lmao

[robust siren]

[quasi hinge]

is anything certain

[calm pulsar]

yeah, and also it's not like the stock ones are an old design or anything, they are perfectly fine with correct tuning

so unless you really need long pole stabs, tuning stock ones is totally viable

especially considering new ones have to be lubed and tuned from the ground up

[polar girder]

Only reason to swap from stock stabs is if you’re bored AF and just want to or have some sort of issue

[knotty iron]

my 80HE spacebar is so bad it sounds luke a maraca

and the 2u stabs are kinda ticky too but not as much as the spacebar

[little glen]

Like a maraca?

Mine isnt that rattly

[kind helm]

https://youtu.be/zt-WsH7Z9c8?feature=shared yea even in keybobred's video, the case has stand offs too, and he put a gummy oring down with some polyfill then the board starts bouncing

waiting for the polyfill to arrive, gonna be 11/8-13

[silk turtle]

guys dose anyone know how to modify the keyboard to move in valorant without having alot of recoil

idk what this edit named with but it makes you move little for right and left so your head moving but you are not moving alot so there is no much bad recoil

[little glen]

Do you mean rapid trigger or SODC/rappy snappy/snappy tappy?

[clever goblet]

anyone knows the thickness of the pcb? i tried one of my third party screw in stabalizer and it doesnt fit

[limpid egret]

I heard that cable mod cables can use tachyon mode and RGB at the same time, is it possible with any type of cable?

[valid plover]

Tape mod still recommended for wooting?

[muted sapphire]

like the wooting tutorial

[ocean grove]

I wouldnt trust it and just get a wooting cable

you get a 10% discount after buying a wooting anyway might aswell use that

[limpid egret]

I live in Japan, so if I buy a new one, it will be very expensive with customs duty and shipping costs, so I would like to buy an external one if possible.

I purchased my keyboard from an authorized Japanese distributor.

[gaunt plume]

Are you Japanese?
I think you can use this cable.
https://wraith.jp/products/wraith-two-layers-coil-cable

[random hull]

I bought a cheap one from Amazon as an experiment, but I am still waiting to get my board

[gaunt plume]

There are cables like this, but they are not quite the same😅
And they're sold out.
https://udfinds.com/products/everglide-rgbケーブル-usb-a-to-usb-c-1-5m

[random hull]

https://www.amazon.co.jp/-/en/CM-PKCA-CWAW-PW150PW-R/dp/B09LT25DTV?crid=2S2CGUQOPKSG1&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.KXlsFSKo6DVFMyfTRcbbeC5VyXdziajYYTyVjrBUpXFzakmFptO7QclTRmtNudqfsEEOSwiJq2F6QYozfy2qXFcK_WHf0FkPHAq8ST3fGm9mvUbIK0FfmQzvszqjHFUQTw0qxmxiYkxb48YtTRHZg3PCr0KeWm4agb17mMo4asVNB1hL8yjWbv_xC2sIR1R6HHy2FQ7-IiP3hzD6LeUQ5qegbm7_nkVKSZ1yTGzgKf_-uxZ-m5gN6r0agOD6cBLjK3GuEIPKZRRLvUNvLxGiLu9UEEQHmyJH0apuYS8P_n8.SC5GI2_-KkFcAoCDb1X7CfTaGHJxWXIymk12COEupT4&dib_tag=se&keywords=cablemod&qid=1730799447&sprefix=cablemod%2Caps%2C281&sr=8-4&th=1 Cablemod should work? They're good right

[random hull]

from videos I can tell the difference and I preferred it every time, but I guess its personal taste?

[valid plover]

im planning to mod it to make it sound creamy

any tips?

[random hull]

nope am new to this too, i plan to do it upon receiving my board but I have no experience with it either

i think wooting has a vid of it on their channel with the 80HE though? think they did 3 layers

[valid plover]

yeah with creamy its just adding a lot of sound dampeners

3 layers tape and as much foam you can fit in the case

[random hull]

I see, I dont know about the foam part, I dont think I have seen a video where they combine the 2 yet. Curious how that will turn out, good luck 👍

[valid plover]

Yep, will definitely post a sound test after

hopefully i get my order sooner, was moved to early december cause of the keycaps i ordered with it ;-;

asked them if i could just have the keycaps delivered later instead

[random hull]

I liked the polyfil one too, but yeah I havent seen too many vids where people combine stuff so I think for now its just tape mod for me unless I see something interesting

Ouch 😦

[valid plover]

I have some experience in modding keyboards but yeah, afaik for creamy builds just a lot of sound dampeners

kinda make the board filled in

less resonance

[kind helm]

https://kbdfans.com/products/eden 👀

nvm way out of my world, 400 buckies

[random hull]

Can you try Cablemod?

[crimson sky]

i'll just say this right now, that will not take a 60he

[kind helm]

reason?

[crimson sky]

it uses a daughterboard

[kind helm]

ah

[little glen]

Daughterboard 60he when

[kind helm]

you are looking for venom60he

[ionic breach]

its 7u

[crimson sky]

good

you don't need 2 winkeys, control keys or alt keys

[ionic breach]

i also dont need 7u of a button

[kind helm]

7U is SYMMETRICAL though

also venom has 6U version if i remember correctly

[crimson sky]

looks better

allows more flexible layouts

[limpid egret]

Is this definitely compatible with tachyon mode and RGB together?

[limpid egret]

I was referred to cable mod and asked if cable mod is supported here and was replied that it is not very reliable.

[random hull]

Oh really? I thought it was a good brand

Weird, but I have not tested it so I cant vouch for it

[ionic breach]

its good tho

[limpid egret]

I trust cable mod if you all say so.

Does cable mod charge customs duty or high shipping costs when buying?

[random hull]

I see some stock on Amazon JP, do they ship locally?

Cablemod Japan exists

[limpid egret]

I found it on Amazon but could not confirm if that is the version that supports lights.

[random hull]

Can you return it if it does not meet your expectations? There are videos of users using the cable with RGB keyboards, so it should be fine.

The only question will be tachyon mode and RGB together, but if you want to go for an alternative option from the Wooting cable, you dont really have much choice but to experiment with it. There is not really much said about it otherwise

this person said it should work atleast

[limpid egret]

I'll compare the prices on Amazon and the official site and buy the cheaper one.

By the way, do you know if there is any difference in performance between the pro series of cable mods and the rest?

[ionic breach]

👀

[random hull]

厚さと、Proの方がクローズドコームで見た目が少し良いという点だけが違いです。しかし、どちらも同じAWGなので、実際の違いは見た目だけです。予算が限られているなら、クラシックなエクステンションでも全く問題ありませんよ

So only looks

[limpid egret]

Seriously!Thank you for taking the trouble to translate!
There was not much information available in Japanese, so the search power of native speakers is great!

[random hull]

no problem, hope it works out for you 👍

[low flame]

What would happen if I combine a bottom housing of a lekker switch and the top housing of a jade switch???

With a jade stem of course

[hollow dagger]

one way to find out

[prime orbit]

Looks dope

[thin light]

Hey guys, I'm new to modding keyboards so I'm asking about how to create the most "Thockiest" feeling for the 80HE. I'm currently sure on getting Gateron Raw HE and PBT Keycaps as starters, but I've heard things about lubing the switches, tape mod and such. What are all the possible mods I could do with the 80HE? I'll probably spend 200-300 if needed but I was thinking of doing: tempest tape mod, switching to Zeal Plate Stabilizers and lubing them, etc. If someone can do a quick rundown on how the modding on the keyboard works and a list on all the possible things I can do to improve the "thock" on the keyboard that would be appreciated Thanks.

[little glen]

For the 80he try a tape mod and using different materials to fill up the empty space on the inside.

[kind helm]

doesn't the 80 come with a tape mod already done to it?

that tape looks cool af

[little glen]

A very popular thing people do is add polyfill

[little glen]

Kinda

Its not like a proper tape mod but its better than nothing

[sweet oak]

@tulip rapids @flat cobalt the gang is all here

[kind helm]

"proper tape moe" when its just sticking tape to the back of the pcb. the tape they made definitely look cooler and cleaner, but i agree it probably not gonna sound the same way as "proper tape mod"

[slim drift]

Why is it 400 ...

[inland fern]

Wtf 400 for a CASE 😭

That case better be able to fly

[slim drift]

I dont mind buying a 400 case but what makes it different from alumaze?

[kind helm]

well we have a couple of salvation and frog mini enjoyers here and both cost close to 300

[slim drift]

Fine but what makes eden 400

[kind helm]

better mounting, better design

[thin light]

So basically when I open it up: just change the switches, keycaps, and doing polyfil/tape mod? I've heard about stock Wooting foam being good but is there better options? Does adding o-ring mount/burger mount improve the keyboard sound and feeling?

[little glen]

80he has a gasket mount already

No need for o-ring/burger

Those are good for 60he not 80

Maybe get ceramic keycaps instead of pbt

If you want that sound profile

[stone flax]

i got no clue what this "thocky" word u are saying is but
thicker denser keycaps could tend towards a deeper sound and thick pbt, usually dyesub ranging from 1.6 to 1.8mm can help accentuate such sound profile

more lube does take away from a switches sound, especially if done non-sparingly: more lube != more better and keep in mind that if u do like how a switch sounds what is the point of pulling away from it, even for the feel aspect raws are really smooth and even something as simple as bag-lubing springs or even leaving them stock can be far enough
if u want to be able to tell whether or not lubing is going to be "worth it" i implore taking two switches, one stock and the other lubed the way you'd plan to do the rest of the keys and compare them A/B in the same row or even switch location on the alphas to tell whether or not it would be worth doing for all the rest

tape mod is largely non-invasive mod that takes a really small amount of time and effort in doing, also being easily reversible, so its just a matter of trying out different layers and comparing it to without to see what you end up preferring

stabs meta is literally just finding one that works, so any pcb-mount is fine (even the stock ones that come with the 80he which are supposedly gateron that you can get sounding right by simply tuning them- which might require a lube such, grease, and light wire balancing)

again no clue what thock is but if u mean altering the board to theres less characteristics of how it sounds naturally then placing dampening inside the board (which already has a lot of foams and dampening otherwise) such as polyfill or any other types of foams can help tend towards being deeper as long as it isnt excessive to the point it further bounces back sound or accentuates the higher pitches

[stone flax]

board cant be mounted either of those ways in the same way 60 is

[kind helm]

you know EXACTLY what he meant

LMAO

[stone flax]

nope

never heard of this word thock

[kind helm]

honestly, me neither

[lunar sand]

Apart from looks my experience is that whatever you do or spend on case … it will never sound as we want it to sound. Eheh

[marble trout]

hey i just ordered the 80he
you suggest doing any modding?

[stone flax]

mods are largely preference outside of stab tuning imo

[marble trout]

just grease?

[stone flax]

lube and/or grease and balancing if need be

[kind helm]

what you don't think there is someone out there who enjoys the rattling

[stone flax]

crazy idea, but if a board is designed to sound good then it should sound good without modification

🤯

[thin light]

Thanks for the reply. I heard that the Gateron Raw HE is factory lubed and from my hearing it sounds better like that so I'll probably just keep it like that to not break anything LMFAO. Is there not much mods I can do to improve keyboard feeling since the Wooting 80HE is already decent enough? I'll just get some tape mod, switches, and ceramic keycaps if there is not much I can improve for the keyboard then.

[kind helm]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2NSQ8H2QkRw

[stone flax]

i mean the mounting is largely propietary in its implementation and already has a lot of measures to make it feel like people shouldnt need to modify it compared to the stiffness of the 60 (forcebreak, gasket implemtation, etc...)

maybe stop being so hung up about modding just to mod

and get the keyboard

type on it

and go from there lol

[stone flax]

as for cerakeys go

uhhhhhhhh qc

so there always lies that disclaimer

but i (or really anyone) cant tell you what "mods" youll end up liking cuz it boils down to preferences

[sweet oak]

They start groupbuy on friday

https://s-craft.studio/

[stone flax]

and since u dont even have the board in hand its hard to theory craft what youll end up liking in the end

[stone flax]

so with cerakeys

do note the qc is iffy, and the way theyre made isnt pristine

also ur gonna need heavier springs

especially so for heavier modifiers

outside of that if you really want them then go ahead

[untold wigeon]

@stone flax a lot of that isn’t accurate

[stone flax]

tf

u can use 45grams springs on a spacebar

?

[glacial wind]

My problem with scraft is they only do SA format size keys

So all your custom Pokemon artisans won’t match height of your cherry keycaps

[sweet oak]

i will take that cost

[stone flax]

big artisan

yum

[untold wigeon]

Qc in v2 is far superior to v1 which had lots of issues. If you get a misaligned cap you return it.

You only need a heavier spring for the spacebar

Caps are absolutely pristine in finish

[stone flax]

i mean yeah

[glacial wind]

If you like big artisan have to go full big artisan from jelly keys lol

[stone flax]

but people continue to pay for $120 proof of concepts lmao

[glacial wind]

Get the gigantic toy 8x8 cm size ones

[stone flax]

gluing together plastics stems onto ceramic exteriors because they tried to make the whole thing ceramic is insane

shipping out caps that need braces to be aligned just so they get them back in for returns

like these are things people should know getting cerakeys imo

on the off chance he does end up getting ones that need replacement immediately he should know now that was something he could be buying into

other than just "these are super thocky keycaps better than plastic for thockyyy"

[untold wigeon]

The stems are epoxied in place. They are not going anywhere. When they were 100% ceramic they had stem fitment issues. Every other problem you cited is easily resolved by rma

[stone flax]

so the $120 dollar keycaps have no faults because they can just rma?

damn lol

wish that applied to anything

[untold wigeon]

If you got a scratched GMK cap would you rma it?

[stone flax]

forget the time waiting for something, being sorely dissapointed that the quality wasnt up to par for the price paid, and handling weeks of rma

[untold wigeon]

I have 5 sets from Cerakey all with zero issues

[stone flax]

bing bang ig

its human nature to just be biased for what u own yk

[little glen]

Or against what you dont

[untold wigeon]

You don’t own them and are giving advice about them.

[stone flax]

yessir?

[kind helm]

not really, i dont have frog mini and i wish i get to try them

[stone flax]

it doesnt take me owning outemu magnetics to say theyre bad either

[little glen]

One in a krillion

[untold wigeon]

If we were solely talking about v1 I’d agree with you. 99% of the issues you cited are v1 qc issues

[stark osprey]

GMK ain't immune to QC issues either. Blot R4 needed a fix kit, which they released, are they bad as well?

https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/18cbff2/psa_check_your_gmk_blot_set_for_issues/

[stone flax]

botanical r2 and likewise saw bottom row alignment issues

[stone flax]

i figured it out

how to get creamy thock

add plate foam, bottom case foam, tape mod, pe foam, foam pads, foam inside the keycaps, poron films on the switches, cotton balls and polyfill to line the bottom case

and finally

cotton keycaps

[dark quest]

Installed black pc plate, lekker v2s with 35g springs, knight v2 stabs and pbs keycaps yesterday

[kind helm]

can you help me figure out how to make tofu60's typing softer and remove the hollow without making the board sound deeper than Morgan Freeman

[stone flax]

remove stand off some screws on the less needed stand off points, switch to a softer plate for tiny bit more softness ig, can do burger so areas around tray-mount points dont feel as harsh

im assuming u alr added foam

what caps are on there

[kind helm]

pbt cherry profile