🔧│keyboard_modding

[tropic urchin]

Jesus

[covert vigil]

what does tolerance mean?

[kind helm]

looks like possibility they were gonna call that enlightenment something switch, but can be just like a translation thing

[calm pulsar]

how tight the plastic on plastic parts are
so less wobble and cleaner sound

[covert vigil]

Got it, that is, if I already have gateron jades, I don’t have to bother

[kind helm]

if the video is accurate, that is not even CLOSE to silent

not even CLOSE to quiet

[tropic urchin]

They have some noise yeah

Technically it’s silent if everyone wears headphones or are deaf so there’s that

[kind helm]

after watching that video i am even doubting if that little piece of silicone is actually doing anything at all.

sorry my mistake, those two pieces of silicone, DOULBE SHOULDER MUTE PAD

[calm pulsar]

cleaning done
I need me an ultrasonic cleaner💀

[kind helm]

think the cheap one glarses were using in his vid is not so expensive

respect the craft ❤️

[calm pulsar]

whats left is to lube, tune sw knights and build

[safe stag]

lmao

just buy lekkers v2 at this point

they said interruption-free and dual rail in the same sentence
what if dual rail is just a marketing shit preventing us from getting a smooth switch

[calm pulsar]

seems so xd

[tropic urchin]

Interruption free + dual rail should = an interruption free refund

[chilly mural]

How terrible is the dual rail?

[tropic urchin]

I don’t have a keyboard to fully showcase it, but the maxes issues seem to stem from their weird dual rail gimmick + all PC parts grinding together

It just seems very unnecessary

[chilly mural]

oh, aww

[calm pulsar]

yeah jade pros are way better, nice and smooth

[tropic urchin]

They just seem to keep doubling down on it for w/e reason

[calm pulsar]

if I didnt want to build a frankenswitch I'd go for jade pros easily

[tropic urchin]

Jade maxes feel ‘fine’ if that’s all you’ve ever tried, but the facade ends very quickly when you have something to benchmark it too

[chilly mural]

Umu

[tropic urchin]

My only regret so far

Missed the Jade pro boat so I decided to build my own 😤

[calm pulsar]

lol yeah, but yours is also going to be clearer on rgb

[tropic urchin]

True

I could live with the tainted RGB

Would’ve saved me a lot of hassle 🤣

The one thing the maxes showed me is that I’ll never use a non POM stem again

[kind helm]

yet your franken is black and raw (thats what i am gonna call them now

[calm pulsar]

I'd prefer keeping the name jade knights

[kind helm]

[tropic urchin]

Long live the Oreo switches

[calm pulsar]

damn the lube I got this time is way better
the last one was too thick for 205, I think it was either fake or mixed up lol

this time it's great and I checked the listing to make sure the factory is the one where they make krytox

[polar girder]

Damn so many Raw Knight enjoyers

Making me want to try

[tropic urchin]

@calm pulsar do you think I’m cooked for my gold wire, I ended up ordering from zkeebs which supposedly also lubed/wire balanced it bc the other vendor had it out of stock apparently

If it is just standard metallic I prob will just accept it as is, but would be cool

[tropic urchin]

It’s kinda fun making your own switch

[calm pulsar]

oh wow they sell it lubed and tuned???

[tropic urchin]

Little more expensive but yeah

They had the gold in the picture so figured why not instead of waiting til late november

Since they def didn’t have the gold from mechanical keyboards

[polar girder]

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSd6YtJNMkC44j6BasNJWw6kOsiXd0cudJ9Gr7ebpnTJwRNxJg/viewform?pli=1

That’s sweet

[calm pulsar]

some day you gotta try raws at the very least

[polar girder]

I’ve done it before. It’s kind of fun but also mad time consuming and I already did it once and idk if I want to do it again

[polar girder]

Bruh

[calm pulsar]

oh I like the colors, wish for more blue in there

[tropic urchin]

It can be. The only bright spot for me is the white zinc delay now gives me all the time to do so

[polar girder]

Yeah need raw and pingless springs

[calm pulsar]

my opinion kinda changed tbh
I think spring in jade pros is the best

[tropic urchin]

Im practically the inventor of the sunk cost fallacy given I’ve lubed the maxes, raw springs and will be creating the Gateron RAW God HE switches

[calm pulsar]

Geon God Jade

[tropic urchin]

When you’ve spent so much time you have to see it thru 😭

[tropic urchin]

Oooh

That might be a keeper

Or Geon Jade Gods 👀

Farewell ambassador title you didn’t fit 🥲

All the ppl in general are gonna be like “OOOH WHERE CNA I GET???!!!!?” And I’ll just tell them it’s limited edition 1 of 1 set

https://tenor.com/view/evil-laugh-rub-hands-patrick-star-evil-plan-gif-15072939

[calm pulsar]

lol true

I will probably make a vid on my jade knights and lock in a contract with geon

[tropic urchin]

My Wooting collab of lazurite keycaps + geon jade gods are going to be the first heavenly keyboard

https://tenor.com/view/ascending-heaven-keanu-reeves-constantine-ascending-to-heaven-gif-11437079898090715826

[calm pulsar]

rdr1 on steam release in 45 minutes

[tropic urchin]

I was shocked they already remastered it 👀

[dawn stag]

is it even a remaster

[tropic urchin]

Was wondering if it would ever get love since I never played the first

[dawn stag]

im pretty sure they just ported it

[tropic urchin]

Oh rip

Well it’s time for the modding community to remaster 🙏🏻

[calm pulsar]

yeah they probably ported the new version that came out on ps4 recently

[dawn stag]

$50 for a 14 year old game byw

lol

[tropic urchin]

Could be worse, could be $69.99 with PS3 graphics

[calm pulsar]

could be jade gaming remastered

[polar girder]

Fk bro don’t tempt me

[tropic urchin]

How does it compare to the Max spring

[calm pulsar]

nah nah I think you should just get raws with pingless
this way you'll try out raws and also have an ability to do the black knight x raw frankenswitch

[viscid gulch]

Why is rdr so popular

[tropic urchin]

Ppl like westerners

[viscid gulch]

The game looks alright :p but everyone praises it

[tropic urchin]

And rock star

[viscid gulch]

True that

[calm pulsar]

I think it's the same, just gold plated on maxes

maybe it affects it somehow, but if lubed both are probably the same

I will be bag lubing mine

[tropic urchin]

It looked a little longer, but das cool

[polar girder]

Nah nah

You already said it bro

[tropic urchin]

The one thing I didn’t like as much was the stock raw spring

[polar girder]

Too late

[tropic urchin]

That’s about the only thing I don’t like about the RAWs

[calm pulsar]

well I'm not gonna lie I prefer jade pros to raws😭
cause the sound is a bit diff

and with the spring being longer too

[polar girder]

The entire switch or just the spring

[calm pulsar]

I think tolerances are comparable

[tropic urchin]

Jade pros being the only Gateron switch worth getting 🤣

[calm pulsar]

maybe technically on raws they are better, but jade pros are still way nicer than normal jades and lekkers on tolerances

[tropic urchin]

#swindled

[calm pulsar]

yeah this

I mean raws are cheaper but it also depends where you're from

for me jade pros are even cheaper to get

than geons

but I got em all 😄

[tropic urchin]

No no not yet you gotta get the Jade gaming before you can say that

Or I mean sorry the boxed pros

[calm pulsar]

nah I'll just wait for gateron counter strikes

[tropic urchin]

Those will just nuke your keyboard instead of your wallet

[calm pulsar]

gonna have to do eco rounds

@polar girder I mean if you want to try out a closed bottom switch, in my opinion jade pros are kinda nicer to me now that I tried them
but the majority here will say raws, so there's that

[polar girder]

I’m kind of at a point I just want the cleanest sounding/feeling switch

I am honestly attracted to the shorter travel

Still don’t love the sound

But it’s clean so there’s that

[calm pulsar]

that true

well again you could get raws and have a shorter travel clean sounding switch AND the ability to make probably the cleanest sounding open bottom switch as well

cause the "monochromes" are very clean

[kind helm]

i think also due to the price and the recommendation people give

[calm pulsar]

@polar girder iirc you also only ever heard them on sound tests so that could opinion change too, cause the feeling is nice with the whole shorter travel thing

[kind helm]

most have raw, they will say good things for the money they spend

[calm pulsar]

and cause you have a frog mini the closed bottoms will sound softer than on most boards

[calm pulsar]

yeah but raws ARE good, it's just I changed my personal opinion purely cause of the spring and bottom out sound

[tropic urchin]

The Pro Max spring is money 🤩

Now Geon needs to make it standardized

Or even improve it for better hifi mahjong sound

[polar girder]

I mean I want low pitch and quiet

Soooo like I already know they’re not it lol

But yeah

[polar girder]

Yeah exactly

[calm pulsar]

well jade pros are lower pitch in my observation

[polar girder]

Max even more so it seems like

But I don’t like fking with finnicky switch

Seems inconsistent to say the least

[calm pulsar]

yeah

[polar girder]

So I guess buy Jade pro and raw. Try them both. Then try BK bottom and stem, raw top, pro spring

[calm pulsar]

that's the way

[tropic urchin]

Jade max price for none of the negatives 👀

[calm pulsar]

raws seem quieter in hand cause they are semi closed bottom, but in a build they seem kinda on the louder side because of that

[polar girder]

Is Jade max the POM stem one?

[calm pulsar]

nah jade max is PC

[polar girder]

Oh the pro is Pom stem

Sick

[tropic garnet]

anyone know how to fix stabilisers on a 60he right shift key that are stuck in the down position? keyboard came like this

yeah

i don’t but i can try that

okay, thanks. would this void warranty? or is the warranty more for the pcb itself?

yeah, i’ll find out. thanks!

[kind helm]

true, some kinda became cultist though

[tropic urchin]

Gotta take the good with the bad in equal parts

[mighty vale]

anyone know what keycaps are these?

[ionic breach]

a random bog probably

[kind helm]

https://kbdfans.com/products/pbtfans-bog

maybe

[ionic breach]

Black on Gray

[kind helm]

yea

[mighty vale]

thanks guys, i think they would appear great on the raw case

there's a waiting list...

[solemn cloud]

Don’t count on it. KBDfans ran out of it a long time ago and still hasn’t restocked for months

I gave up and preordered GMK instead

[mighty vale]

can you provide the link of what you ordered

[solemn cloud]

It’s not exactly the same tho but here it is

https://kbdfans.com/products/gmk-cosmos

Also ran out, I just realized

[chilly mural]

if lucky can get extra

[mighty vale]

yeah

[ionic breach]

check other vendors

[kind helm]

is there a reason why gmk is prefered

[ionic breach]

kbdfans runs out more often than others

[mighty vale]

out of stock all of them

[kind helm]

i still don't see the value in it. 100+ for keycaps is kinda insane

[mighty vale]

checked over 10+ sites

[ionic breach]

https://ilumkb.com/products/pre-order-gmk-cosmos?variant=41239648075858

^ this website practically never runs out

[mighty vale]

ohh you were refering to the gmk

[ionic breach]

ya the cosmos

[mighty vale]

thanks i will check it out

[calm pulsar]

cosmos group buy is over though

[calm pulsar]

wait where is your role

[ionic breach]

i left the server just now

[austere creek]

drakon back

[ionic breach]

i pray i dont do that again

[austere creek]

what shit

[calm pulsar]

what happened

[ionic breach]

got into a weird arguement

got pissed as i was agreeing with the guy

but he thought i was gaslighting him or smt

shit happens i guess

[kind helm]

[jade storm]

so YOU left?!

[ionic breach]

yea

[left depot]

welcome back

[jade storm]

lmfao why

[left depot]

[austere creek]

time to get roles back with the hub

quick

[left depot]

[ionic breach]

[left depot]

do you want your party role back too?

[ionic breach]

really?

[austere creek]

5bucks

[ionic breach]

ye

[austere creek]

in her mailbox now

[left depot]

[ionic breach]

hmmm

[austere creek]

quite the fast payment

ngl

[mighty vale]

i also left the server

[ionic breach]

[mighty vale]

i need my party role back

[left depot]

he didnt use sofort

[left depot]

[ionic breach]

i mean these has happened a few times before in here

its not fun

[mighty vale]

thats obviously a photoshop

[austere creek]

they mentally left

[ionic breach]

ill probably just avoid feedbac and community support lmao

[robust siren]

oh yeah i read the lore last night

i need to catch up

[chilly mural]

there's lore??

[calm pulsar]

I wonder what color the 60HE Pro role gonna be

[austere creek]

"the lore"

[chilly mural]

I avoid that place like the plague since I'm not being paid reading that

[robust siren]

well obviously if he left the server

[austere creek]

i still wonder who spread the rumor of a pro model being released or made

[mighty vale]

drakon is the culprit

[calm pulsar]

castle stream

[austere creek]

rouhan didnt start anything

she just joked

so who started it in the community

[calm pulsar]

[ionic breach]

probably sno lmao

[calm pulsar]

it didnt seem that way

[left depot]

everything in the discord becomes canon apparently

[austere creek]

2he pro

[chilly mural]

we need the 2he pro

[left depot]

wireless wooting

[chilly mural]

full size need love

[austere creek]

wireless wires for the other boards

[calm pulsar]

all right, venom is my 60he pro for now 😄

[mighty vale]

we need numpad he pro

[left depot]

wooting dongle

[ionic breach]

Alice Layout i beg

[austere creek]

does it have 5g though

[calm pulsar]

lol this one is funny

[left depot]

wooting deluxe pro gamer 420 noscope edition

[ionic breach]

i need one

[left depot]

not in germany

[austere creek]

ha good im in NL

[left depot]

[austere creek]

fudge the germans

https://tenor.com/view/das-internet-ist-fur-uns-alle-neuland-angela-merkel-internet-neuland-gif-15480073

[tropic urchin]

When’s the new Wooting Lekker V3 Pro Max transparent heavenly switches is the real question 👀

[chilly mural]

In colaboration with Geon

[ionic breach]

but are they dreamy sounding?

[austere creek]

soon-ish™️

[chilly mural]

yess, perfect switch

[tropic urchin]

https://tenor.com/view/flood-pipe-gif-15999826281270001688

[calm pulsar]

Geooting 60HE

[ionic breach]

the wooting board learning a few tricks from venom would be fire ngl

[chilly mural]

Goonting

[ionic breach]

the option of middle for usb and the ease of mounting

[marsh saffron]

When wooting X geon

[austere creek]

we adhere to the blizzard way of specifying how far in the future something is

nice and flexible

[ionic breach]

opens up so many case options

[robust siren]

i just finished reading it

💀

[tropic urchin]

Hopefully Wooting doesn’t get bought by Microsoft too

[austere creek]

no we are currently trying to aquire Mlcrosoft

[chilly mural]

I don't think Microsoft can buy wooting

[calm pulsar]

I got a license for cheap you mean wooting cant afford it??

[tropic urchin]

It’s a simulation sandbox anything can happen 🔥

[austere creek]

yeah windows license was too expensive so we are buying the entire company behind it

#girlmaths

[jade narwhal]

[ionic breach]

my dentist just gave me some rubber bands for my braces and they are SO close to being O rings

[austere creek]

so 259eur is what we try to make as cheap as possible right. so you just buy microsoft for roughly 3trillion USD. then you save 260eur and can buy something else for those 260eur

easy money saving tipps

[glacial wind]

60he pro mention was not mentioned in a joking way though

neither were the references to it later and Calder discussing it happening later

[kind helm]

i asked sander before and he said something along the lines of "one step at a time"

it would suck if i get the module then see the updated module comes out like 2 weeks later

[glacial wind]

They 100% shouldn’t confirm or say anything regarding it now if they’re staff

[kind helm]

like that purple OP1 8K with the better sensor brought it like 1 week before that was out

[glacial wind]

It’s not exactly the first time staff have pretended a thing that was confirmed was fake news then it was confirmed true later

Although I get why they don’t want the cat out of the bag. The better path would be to just not comment on it though

[kind helm]

I kinda assumed that since 80HE version exist now, updating 60 wouldn't be difficult, but i never ran a business in my life :3

[glacial wind]

A lot of the problem would be Chinese brands instantly copy anything wooting does so I totally understand why they avoid confirming leaks unless it’s too far gone

[polar girder]

Transparent? EW. GROSS

Need full opaque black

[glacial wind]

was the same for the knob they’re making being told officially that it was not a thing even though we knew 100% it was a thing, until too many people knew and there was no point denying it anymore

[marsh saffron]

I'm still waiting on that moist knob

[glacial wind]

Moist knob and moist lekker switch

[marsh saffron]

Still need a wooting numpad too

Cmon calder

[glacial wind]

It’s been awhile since Calder leaked actually

He hasn’t done a major leak since the knob stuff. Has to step up his leak game

[kind helm]

knob coming? on what? at least gonna be like a 65% for a knob to make sense right

[glacial wind]

It’ll be an add on thing you can add into an existing wooting keyboard

we don’t have any release dates for it though so who knows how far off the knob, custom wooting switch or 60he pro projects would be - could be a year for all we know

[ionic breach]

seperate

on its own as an accessory i believe

[kind helm]

maybe like something similar to uwu

[ionic breach]

i think it can be used on any keyboard

[kind helm]

that would make sense to me

[ionic breach]

like instead of using a switch there

[kind helm]

but if its like some attachable

on like a 60

maybe a tiny bit horrifying

also that would mean you need a plate to go along with it

[glacial wind]

Nah they described it was fitting into any of the existing lekker boards

So I doubt it’d be some Frankenstein thing

[jade storm]

sno jed

[kind helm]

if its like the size of a switch, then it would be hard to use no? since it would be so close to the switches around it

maybe i just lack the imagination

[calm pulsar]

speaking abt frankensteins, what's left is to lube raw stems and bag lube springs

[glacial wind]

If you put it in a corner it’d be no different from any other knob

They’re all 1 switch sized

Outside of a few exceptions

[kind helm]

yea but usually they leave out some space around it

[glacial wind]

For example if you look at the meletrix zoom75 knob add on

It’s just 1 switch size

and can be swapped out for lcd screen or other things

[kind helm]

ic

[calm pulsar]

will there be 61 knob packs for the whole board

[kind helm]

i kinda just imagine it on the 60, its like i need to be careful not to hit the keys around it when i use the knob

[unique jetty]

Anyone know where to look out for aftermarket 80He cases? I know it’s pretty early but what companies usually announce these things so I can keep an eye out?

[kind helm]

i doubt any company other than wooting themselves or through like a colab would make a case for 80he

80he feels like more of a replacement for 60he. and anyone that would get 60 probably nowadays wouldve go with a module instead.

[glacial wind]

one company looking into it was already confirmed

[tropic urchin]

Glory to the Geon Jade Knights

[glacial wind]

we have no info on who that company is - but we know 1 company is interested in doing it at least

[kind helm]

interesting, i thought the market for that would be too small.

[unique jetty]

Thought someone said Alumaze. Idk if that’s a company or the name of the product. Bc ik they made 60

[glacial wind]

nah it's a 3rd party

[kind helm]

alumeh is just a case made by wooting

[unique jetty]

Oh ok wasn’t sure if it was a collab with a company or just the product name

[unique jetty]

Wonder who I’m definitely interested in case swapping if I find the right aesthetic

Would Wooting announce this news when the time comes or would it be purely dependent on the third party marketing

[ionic breach]

ofc

[glacial wind]

wooting would mention it probably, but it could still be quite some time until it'd be ready

[ionic breach]

its a collab

[kind helm]

think you can look into frog legra(think i spell this wrong, you can look at "frog mini" which is replaced by this new one) and salvation, those have different mounting style

[ionic breach]

legera?

nope

[kind helm]

owlab is making something with wooting though right, but i heard its friction mount

[ionic breach]

leggera

[ionic breach]

ya its shown in a live stream

one rose gold another darkish grey

[glacial wind]

yeah owlab one been shown a couple times

[kind helm]

and i think in the few screenshots i saw for that, you can remove the bottom standoffs

not sure how they gonna implement it but thats pretty exciting

like how they would support the pcb with no cut outs for gummy oring. i am guessing some sort of foam on the corners instead of metal standoffs

owlab is pretty good in the past so yea

[polar girder]

By the way

Shit picture

But sweet keycaps

[agile grove]

they’re releasing a silicone friction pad

[kind helm]

is that the new keycap profile thats popular recently

M something something

[glacial wind]

the owlabs magnetic daughterboard attachment thing is pretty neat in their other boards. No idea how effective it is, but it seems really neat vs. having to connect a cable

[jade storm]

@polar girder unblock please

[agile grove]

erik showed it off in an exclusive discord stage recently

[kind helm]

i fell asleep for like half hour and the stream ended

didn't get to hear the board

[ionic breach]

i fell asleep too

[kind helm]

think he was using neo lavender

[ionic breach]

whats the keycaps anyways?

the cover looked nice

[agile grove]

no one really got to hear it lol

[agile grove]

they sucked

[kind helm]

good

[agile grove]

the kitting was really bad

[kind helm]

so i didn't miss out too much

[ionic breach]

name?

didnt see what they looked like

[agile grove]

his mic couldn’t really pick it up through discord

the stream also ended early because the wooting crashed his computer

[ionic breach]

[kind helm]

thats 10/10 promotion

LMAO

[ionic breach]

dafuq did i miss

sounds fun

[kind helm]

yea that is what i was thinking

because i remember seeing him show the switches

then i blacked out on my desk

then i woke up 20-30 min later stream ended

in my head i was like there is no way he finished with the board and ended in that short period of time

[calm pulsar]

nice they finally arrived

[dark quest]

Nice, mine are coming tomorrow.

[somber grove]

any one knows any good quality orange keycaps?

[stark spade]

Thinking of getting these Agent01 keycaps
Would it be better for me to buy the BOGO now or wait for Black friday sales on Deskhero for Keycaps?

https://www.deskhero.ca/products/gmk-agent-01-keycaps-extras?_pos=22&_fid=39ce2b6fe&_ss=c&variant=40186006306882
heres the link if anyone else is interested

[scenic grove]

Wait, there are 3rd party magnetic switches? What would you guys recommend for the most silent build possible?

[polar girder]

Non-HE

[scenic grove]

what's the problem with he?

[tropic urchin]

No problem per se, but there isn’t a true silent switch available. Your best case is going Lekker V2 or black knights and putting in extra foam

[scenic grove]

well any switch will make a noise anyways

what's counted as "true silent"?

[polar girder]

HE just aren’t quiet

[scenic grove]

I meant including non he

[polar girder]

Well you can’t use MX with Wooting PCB

But if you want most quiet Mx keyboard I’m sure some true keyboard enthusiasts can help you here

I’m just ac Wooting noob

[tulip rapids]

Before: Wooting Pbt back lit keycaps, lekkers l60v1 switches, wooting steel plate, Poron foam 4mm, EPDM foam, wooting 60he+ case,

After: Wooting Pbt back lit keycaps, Geon Raw He switches, stem spacers, pc plate (from wooting), Poron foam 4mm, tofu 60 redux foam (that comes with the case), Tofu 60 redux case @knotty iron

[random loom]

Is that a g pro super light

[tulip rapids]

super light 2

i never been the same since my razer viper ultimate died

https://tenor.com/view/pepe-smoking-sadge-pepe-smoking-pepe-sadge-gif-16948267171533269841

[pulsar schooner]

G502 forever for me

Light mice just feel cheap and like I could just destroy it at any moment

[tulip rapids]

that was my first gaming mice and i liked that a lot but once i found the razer viper ultimate

https://tenor.com/view/theboys-perfect-gif-23821319

[tropic urchin]

Those sound so much better

Very nice after

[tulip rapids]

thank you good sir

i feel unworthy to type of this keyboard now

the 40g are a bit to light for my liking but we shall see. I might buy heaver springs

[tropic urchin]

You created it so it’s yours sergeant 🫡

#customized

[tropic urchin]

The one thing that’s kinda blown me away is how different it feels with different spring weights

And sounds

Going from standard geon 50 —> Max 55g —> 80g for artisan all feels really different

[tulip rapids]

would you say 40g to 50g is a huge difference?

[tropic urchin]

I haven’t tried 40g but I don’t think it would be a huge difference. I’ve heard others say it’s not a big gap. I’d try the 40s out for a week and see if you fat finger any keys by accident. If yes then maybe try some heavier ones

50 to 55g was more of a sound than feel difference so I think it would be about the same for 40 to 50

But then again the max spring is longer fwiw

[tulip rapids]

ahh i see

i definitely give that a try. I was gonna buy 50g but it was sold out

[tropic urchin]

I went 50g for my RAWs as a middle ground anyway since I wasn’t sure

[tropic urchin]

Ooof

Worst case you can get the heavier pingless spring

Which arc liked a bunch

Think that’s going to be in the 60g range

80g def tho is a large difference 🤣

I almost didn’t get it to fit in my switch

[quasi hinge]

get a superlight 1 and mod the skates & switches

[quasi hinge]

I have both

40s are a bit light for my liking but its all personal

50s are the sweet spot for me

I would really recommend trying them to compare, I was able to order a set of all with free shipping, local distro etc

[quasi hinge]

I used huano blue shell pink dot and had a friend solder them on

then some tiger skates

[formal ferry]

i just figured out that keycaps can drastically alter sound profile

why cant i get the sound of moa profile without my keeb looking R O U N D

[tulip rapids]

ty i'll keep that in mind, when i need a new mice i'll do that

[tulip rapids]

local distro?

[quasi hinge]

local distributor in my country offers free shipping

so I could try sample of 10 each

[devout torrent]

man thaose look really nice, just not sure about the profile 😦

[untold wigeon]

No need for all that. There is a service that sells complete daughter boards with choice of switches and encoder. I have 2 they are great

[quasi hinge]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jtATbpMqbL4

[quasi hinge]

im second guessing the mouse now

maybe a 4k is better

[untold wigeon]

Blue shell pink dot is my favorite switch

[quasi hinge]

same

My superlight 1 is 1k polling

[untold wigeon]

My thing is just switches and wheel encoder not the sensor

[quasi hinge]

and people are telling me its a big diff

[untold wigeon]

Mine too

[untold wigeon]

Not really. It’s debatable

[quasi hinge]

is it worth the upgrade for fps?

at an intermediate level

[untold wigeon]

I have like 15 mice. When I switch back to my super light 1 it’s hard to notice a difference.

I have 4k and 8k mice. 8k messes with game quality

[dapper sonnet]

can someone recommend some screw in stabilizers for the wooting 60he

[quasi hinge]

thank you

ill hang on to my superlight with the venerable switches

[uneven cradle]

Knight v2s

[dapper sonnet]

thank you 😁

[polar girder]

Fair enough. I really like it tho. And the feel is silky smooth. Great for gaming and typing IMO

[vague stag]

havent found a place that sells the knights where the shipping cost is not 1.5 times the actual cost of the stabs 😦

[devout torrent]

I'll try to snag them during the next restock

[untold wigeon]

@quasi hinge these.

https://shop.facfox.com/product/g-pro-x-superlight-hot-swap/?v=0b3b97fa6688

[quasi hinge]

my buddy just solders the new ones on

super easy to do

[untold wigeon]

True but those are hot swap.

Any switch no soldering

[quasi hinge]

what makes this better

[untold wigeon]

No solder. lol

Plug and play

[quasi hinge]

ahhhh okay

yeah if my buddy stops then this is a nice backup

[barren wasp]

has anyone testing sticky rice v2

[tulip rapids]

ahh i see. I dont think i got that here. I have to order from usa websites

[tulip rapids]

do you have the link for it?

[untold wigeon]

Look up ⬆️

[tulip rapids]

ty

it looks very easy to mod the mouse thanks for the tip

gonna do that with my gxp super light 2

[untold wigeon]

Yessir

[untold wigeon]

Different kit. Make sure you order the right one

[tulip rapids]

does it say on their website what kits belong to each mouse or i just got to google it?

nvm i found it

[untold wigeon]

It does

[untold wigeon]

Ok good

[robust siren]

@tulip rapids i do a better sound test tmr 😅

brothers bein hella loud rn

[paper bloom]

@calm pulsar i did it

@chilly mural I did it

i fucking passed

[calm pulsar]

insane

[chilly mural]

berry noise

[paper bloom]

i'll dm u

[paper bloom]

and u too on the scores

[devout sluice]

anyone have good keycap recommendations? style wise, color, anything

[paper bloom]

@devout sluice Kapco

[fluid ravine]

Sup Counter

[untold wigeon]

Are all keycaps compatible with all switches, or should I look for specific keycaps for my switches?

[calm pulsar]

you need cross shaped stems which like 99% of keycaps are anyways

[paper bloom]

yo

[calm pulsar]

almost done

[scarlet rock]

the Geon Raw does makes a dfference

[lost garnet]

Where can I get raw he’s for cheap? I got a set of 18 from divinikey bc the shipping isn’t expensive but now they are out of stock and gonna restock in a month. I don’t want to spend a month with 2 types of switches in my keyboard

Also is it normal for all the rows to sound different? My asd row is loudest qwe a bit less loud zxc quiet and 123 thocky…

@ me with response

[glacial wind]

Aliexpress kdbfans store there

[lost garnet]

What

Kbdfans has like 20$ shipping

For 25$ worth of switches

[glacial wind]

Aliexpress shipping is usually cheaper

[lost garnet]

Lemme check

Thx

On aliexpress I feel like I’m getting scammed

Are they like off brand?

[lost garnet]

Are they like fake and used or something

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005007711166883.html

Are these legit

@ me

[glacial wind]

just buy from the official kdbfans store there

[calm pulsar]

@lost garnet kbdfans have an official store there

[glacial wind]

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005007782574456.html

[lost garnet]

It says max 1 set per shopper

1 set is 10 switches

[glacial wind]

? You can order more

[calm pulsar]

lol nah

just grab 7

and you're good

[lost garnet]

It doesn’t let me

[glacial wind]

from the link i gave you?

[ionic breach]

have you changed to your country?

top right

it does differ from country to country so you can try that

[lost garnet]

what should I choose

still says 1 max

[ionic breach]

good job aliexpress

[lost garnet]

from link that was sent

[ionic breach]

shame, might want to look into other retailers

[lost garnet]

maybe its bc of the "welcome deal"

should i purchase the 1st set and then maybe ill be able to get the other ones?

[ionic breach]

ya i dont see why not

[calm pulsar]

probably could even do 7 orders if they still dont let you pick multiple in one order 😄

but actually shipping might suck

[ionic breach]

wait how does shipping look

ew nvm

[lost garnet]

yeah it didnt let me get more than 1 bc of the sale for new ppl but now I just got 4 more

[tulip rapids]

its all good take your time

[lost garnet]

thank you

[slate fox]

Lmao I had the same issue

What you do is just add some other item that has the “welcome deal”

And once it applies to that product then you can add more of those switches to the cart

[slate fox]

Then remove the other item as the “welcome deal” placeholder

[wild hemlock]

@calm pulsar whats your venom60he build?

[calm pulsar]

frog mini case, alu plate, no foams
I used geon raw he, jade maxes, but now doing my frankenswitch

[wild hemlock]

nice

[calm pulsar]

last switch lubed finally

[wild hemlock]

imma get some shitty case off of taobao

[calm pulsar]

my fav tray mount is freebird60

[wild hemlock]

yeah im getting a 20 dollar case

[calm pulsar]

friction mount makes any case better

[wild hemlock]

i just want an HE keyboard lmao

[calm pulsar]

so you're getting a venom or what

[wild hemlock]

yeah

i want it to feel good

[kind helm]

long jade spring, raw top housing, black knight stem and bottom housing. long, black, and raw

[wild hemlock]

and sound good

[kind helm]

[calm pulsar]

what switch

[wild hemlock]

GEON

raw he

[calm pulsar]

ight

[kind helm]

i can't wait for the sound test

[calm pulsar]

you're not forgetting a plate I hope?

for venom

[wild hemlock]

of course im niot

[calm pulsar]

nice

[wild hemlock]

carbon plate

[calm pulsar]

yeah I need to tune my sw knights which I got unlucky with

the spacebar wire sucks

[kind helm]

just bend it a little bit. i recently just learned wire balancing and it seems decent

[wild hemlock]

is the SW knights v2 good in terms of QC?

[calm pulsar]

most ppl had no issues

[wild hemlock]

as i ordered them yesterday

[calm pulsar]

they are considered high end

can be lubed with krytox only

so easier to tune

[calm pulsar]

yeah, or I might just take my TX AP wires xd

[kind helm]

xD

[wild hemlock]

does this case seem fine?http://e.tb.cn/h.gFL2BtuHFXWYSej?tk=sbij3PuISvF

[kind helm]

you from cn?

[calm pulsar]

nice ventilation

you won't need water cooling for your pcb

[wild hemlock]

fr

[kind helm]

sound is gonna go everywhere but from what i heard not too bad

[wild hemlock]

nah tho im getting a lot from them already so shipping didnt go up when i added that

[calm pulsar]

make sure your venom and plate are both for 6.25u spacebar

[wild hemlock]

i got 7u

[calm pulsar]

ah nice

[wild hemlock]

for both

[calm pulsar]

I love 7u

[kind helm]

thats pretty good

[calm pulsar]

damn its cool that they have CF plate on taobao, I might even order one

cause geon only has alu and fr4

[kind helm]

price kinda crazy

its 119 usd on kbdfan

thats 100 yuan

[calm pulsar]

what is?

[kind helm]

holy60 case

[calm pulsar]

oh nice

this one seems made of diff material tho I think

compared to kbdfans

but yeah the price is insane

[kind helm]

https://kbdfans.com/collections/holy60/products/holy60-bottom-cover-panel

you can also get like a panel for the bottom

[wild hemlock]

yeah

its cheap

and decent

what keycaps do i get

[calm pulsar]

I’d say some pbt dye sub set

cause good double shot caps are usually more expensive

probably could get some on taobao too

[wild hemlock]

all taobao build 🔥

[wild hemlock]

well the case does not come with screws

[calm pulsar]

with a sick ass pcb

[wild hemlock]

so what should i do

[calm pulsar]

need 4 screws total for mounting the pcb
do they list the specs for screws?

[wild hemlock]

idk

i cant check

as im not logged in

[wild hemlock]

can you check for me?

[calm pulsar]

just checked my aliexpress orders, the size is m2, I ordered for burger mount when I had tofu redux I think

the length was 6mm but this is for burger mounting, might get away with 5mm screws

[wild hemlock]

Okay what is burger mount?

[kind helm]

the screws that came with fr4 plate is also m2, looks the same width as the wooting stock ones

[wild hemlock]

this is my first solo build

[calm pulsar]

wooting has a video on yt channel

[wild hemlock]

okay thans

[calm pulsar]

just some small orings for screws for softer feeling

[wild hemlock]

Okay ill look at that

imma get some white keycaps with japanese text on them

full white build

[loud gull]

Feeling is still really stiff. But atleast it isn't as hard mounted. But I didn't notice much difference tbh.

[calm pulsar]

same in my experience
it’s more like for some peace of mind

[kind helm]

does your frog mini has some amount of flex

wait nvm alu plate

[calm pulsar]

yeah its more bounce

[kind helm]

for salvation its like you can make it flex but you don't really notice in typing :3

[calm pulsar]

and not flex

[kind helm]

true

i think burger mount is probably the same in that way

[wild hemlock]

can you show the venom60he software

[calm pulsar]

venom.how

[kind helm]

oh damn, its also web page?

[calm pulsar]

yup

[kind helm]

L wooting

fat L

[calm pulsar]

why? wooting also web 😄

[wild hemlock]

but isnt 8khz

[kind helm]

pcb price is less than half

with cut outs

with 8k

nah

[wild hemlock]

what do i need to insert the switches

just the plate and the pcb?

[kind helm]

the only big advantage for wooting is no software on pc

[calm pulsar]

well its true that venom has nice enthusiast features, but 8khz is the least interesting

and wootility is still a bit nicer

[glacial wind]

You’re in for a rude awakening building venom if you think it’s about being cheap lol

I love the venom but is not cheap

[kind helm]

actually yea wooting is not 140, its 140 for pcb + plate

[glacial wind]

Don’t forget foam etc

It’s not sold as a kit so you have to buy everything on top of a pcb

[crimson sky]

I mean you can build it for really cheap

[glacial wind]

For sure, but it’s still not cheap unless you specifically build in $10 aliexpress case

[calm pulsar]

wooting also has a dedicated team of devs which means the firmware is better on the backend

but I still enjoy venom a lot, esp for the 7u layout

[glacial wind]

And even then it’s still a decent chunk for everything before the case

[kind helm]

i can image 7u would be a bit more hollow but probably not to a point that is like noticeable

but it looks much nicer

[calm pulsar]

with well tuned stabs its fine

6.25u is probably a bit more forgiving on the tuning, but the difference os probably very small in that regard

[kind helm]

0.75u bigger only :3

[calm pulsar]

ngl I never want to go back to standard 60%

cause I love the aesthetics of tsangan

[kind helm]

also when do you use menu

that extra button kinda useless

[glacial wind]

if you're in korea i think is the only way you get a venom cheap

[calm pulsar]

the 60 one is pretty much korea only for now

[glacial wind]

if you combine local pricing + all the sales + cheap aliexpress case you can get venom for quite cheap

there's some places you can find it on taobao and such, but yeah it's all higher priced than local

[calm pulsar]

@polar girder I did a way better force break this time
stab stickers helped and way less hassle than using tape

[wild hemlock]

well im at like 210 usd on a total venom build

not too bad

thats before shipping sadly 💀

so probably like 250-270

[kind helm]

400+ on a wooting build

[calm pulsar]

the fact that thats with a good switch and stabs from the start is good

[wild hemlock]

i got the something v2

i dont remember their names

[chilly mural]

Hmm, makes me wanna build one too

[glacial wind]

i think without case i can probably do a venom 60 build in korea for about $110 or so, but that's with a lot of 20% discounts and cheaper local pricing

[wild hemlock]

well its full budget

[chilly mural]

But then idk how to get the venom pcb itself

[wild hemlock]

oh taobao

with superbuy

well its 200 dollars lower than the wooting build i wanted

so im fine with it

[glacial wind]

realistically if I built venom i'd do a $200-300 build though and buy a nice case etc

[wild hemlock]

i got the lucky60 case off of taobao

in resin

[calm pulsar]

with the frog leggera, doing a gummy oring HE board would be super nice and not too expensive

[kind helm]

you got the link for that?

[wild hemlock]

what link?

[kind helm]

venom60

[wild hemlock]

taobao yeah?

[kind helm]

i can only find the plate

yea

and this plate not the 7U one

[calm pulsar]

this one is 6.25

yeah

[wild hemlock]

http://e.tb.cn/h.gvPBnikDtDb0YPY?tk=xP9v3PuroAm VENOM60HE

http://e.tb.cn/h.gFLXSuMh9GQk3Qj?tk=rjfo3PurmS5 VENOM60HE Plate

http://e.tb.cn/h.gva4SjtHqFXwjLG?tk=phbC3PurQrl Geon Raw HEs

Case options (affordable) :
http://e.tb.cn/h.gFL2BtuHFXWYSej?tk=sbij3PuISvF Holy60 Resin

http://e.tb.cn/h.gFQISTAZ8LGTd22?tk=ULTU3PuIsEB YM60 Aluminium Case

Other stuff i personally got :
http://e.tb.cn/h.gva5ddVl00Kp6oV?tk=wg9Q3PuHNrA Stab grease

http://e.tb.cn/h.gFQtQ9eVdMqhudO?tk=uApv3PuGEcY PBOW Keycaps

affordable venom60he build

[kind helm]

did you get to choose which version of the pcb you get

is that something that requires log in to check?

[wild hemlock]

yeah

[wild hemlock]

use superbuy

or some other agent to import it

[kind helm]

DAMN

that redo the whole taobao page

for US right this is?

[wild hemlock]

its anywhere

they run an import service

oh and for it not to get seized get the tax free shipping option

[kind helm]

have you tried it before 0.0

[wild hemlock]

yeah

buying rep clothes back in the day

my 2 dollar jordans got seized

[kind helm]

I am buying it right now

[wild hemlock]

what will you get?

what case n shit

[kind helm]

7u pcb and fr4 plate

thats all i need

[wild hemlock]

what is fr4 plate

send link 😭

[kind helm]

\

[wild hemlock]

i wanna try understand keyboard talk

[kind helm]

how you think this should be setup

[calm pulsar]

I recommend alu more tbh, but I never had salvation so not sure exactly

[wild hemlock]

alu what?

[kind helm]

plate affects sound depending on the material

should i get both

[calm pulsar]

plate
aluminum

[kind helm]

fuck ok i get both

Guangdong Warehouse

[wild hemlock]

they are 10 usd

[kind helm]

i was born there

LMAO

[wild hemlock]

so not too bad

[calm pulsar]

lmao sounds like a curse word in my language

[kind helm]

@wild hemlock what settings should i select :3

[wild hemlock]

i dont know

do some research first

[kind helm]

cyka blyat :V

[wild hemlock]

as these agents are stupid

[kind helm]

i am sorry i dont know if thats harsh

[wild hemlock]

csgo

[pseudo fulcrum]

whats best first mods for 60he+

[wild hemlock]

new switches

and case

[kind helm]

other than fr4 plate, i think i pick one more, cf or alu

which do you think @calm pulsar

[pseudo fulcrum]

i thought it needed special switches

[wild hemlock]

yeah hall effect

[calm pulsar]

it’s more used like an interjection xd but the translation is “fcking btch”

[calm pulsar]

i’d say fr4 and alu are pretty different

so a good choice

cf is maybe kinda in the middle?

never used it

[wild hemlock]

i only want one of them

which one do i get

fr4 ?

[kind helm]

so its the same in every language, almost like a adjective

[calm pulsar]

if one then CF probably

[wild hemlock]

if i want deeper tones

what then

[calm pulsar]

hmm for tray mount I’d say CF for sure
my fr4 was very bright

[wild hemlock]

or nah imma get CF

[calm pulsar]

and alu is way brighter

[wild hemlock]

i still cant find screws that fit the case in my area

😭

maybe its cause i dont know what im looking for

[calm pulsar]

maybe you can find the in local shops

[wild hemlock]

but still there is not many m2 5mm

[calm pulsar]

its weird that the case comes with no screws

[wild hemlock]

very weird

[calm pulsar]

but ig they save on the cost as much as they can

[wild hemlock]

its 15 bucks so its not all bad

ill probably end up getting a freebird 60 later on

[kind helm]

where do i get to see that option

[calm pulsar]

maybe you’ll have some extra screws from stabs

[kind helm]

before or after this page

[wild hemlock]

when it arrivs in the warehouse

[kind helm]

oh ok

[wild hemlock]

but i have not used this for a couple years

tho superbuy is legit

they have been around forever

[kind helm]

i just realize i brought shit from there before

lmao ok we solid hopefully

[wild hemlock]

fucks that

[kind helm]

badminton racket grip

[wild hemlock]

thats fire

mold it into keycaps

[kind helm]

for that extra soft feel

this is perfect, i stopped drinking for a month, save myself 140 dollars, use it to buy keyboard things

[wild hemlock]

nice

i should stop smoking

then id have it back in a week

[kind helm]

nah you gotta stay awake somehow

coffee alone aint enough

[wild hemlock]

you right

tho my job is not supporting my addiction

so i might need to quit

[wild hemlock]

soon

eww not dispo

thats gay

[kind helm]

LOLOL

[wild hemlock]

i just buy puff bars

i dont know shit about it

im just addicted 😄

[kind helm]

i never set my mind to try the fancier ones

[wild hemlock]

can i borrow one :d

[kind helm]

i should ask my dude when i drop by the place

[wild hemlock]

my geekbar died yesterday

[kind helm]

geekbar better than this, my dude say "we got some new s44t you wanna try"

taste weird af

[wild hemlock]

i have to cut back

as on just smoking

i burn down my paycheck in half a week

also drinking

but like thats besides the point

[kind helm]

@calm pulsar did you get the sound pack?

or you are set on no foam

[calm pulsar]

I did but alu with no foams is best, imo🤠

[wild hemlock]

wait so do i not need anything other than the plate for assembling it

[calm pulsar]

the plate comes with screws

[wild hemlock]

oh love u 😄

thanks

no gay shit

[kind helm]

i am thinking, will I keep this pcb long enough to i go for cheaper case where i do need a bit of foam

[calm pulsar]

wait actually not sure about CF plate cause its not made by geon

but I hope it does come with screws lol

[kind helm]

I am leaning on no foam rn but i think i should be prepared

[wild hemlock]

uhh 😦

[calm pulsar]

yeah its nice to have options

[kind helm]

high and drunk at the same time is the best

[wild hemlock]

imma go no foam

[kind helm]

BEST

[wild hemlock]

as im used to apex pro 💀

[wild hemlock]

okay so i have stabs plate pcb case keycaps and switches

anything else i might find useful?

[calm pulsar]

you got a cable?

[wild hemlock]

yeah

not coiled sadly

[calm pulsar]

you’re set then

[kind helm]

they are faster than delivered korea i can say that much

alway placed the order on taobao on their end

[wild hemlock]

you paid for quick order

its 76 cents

but well worth it

[calm pulsar]

yeah cause koreans are buying venoms like hot cakes lol

[kind helm]

my coffee costs 7 times that price

[wild hemlock]

what stabs should i get again

its some cute green thing

i remember that but i dont remember the name of the stab

[calm pulsar]

you got sw knights? they are good

[wild hemlock]

oh yeah

i ordered them

thanks

[calm pulsar]

im building with them rn

[kind helm]

also chinese delivery is hella fast. i remember i went back there for a short while in high school, and first time i got my delivery on the very next day

CHINA NUMB 1

[kind helm]

you need to buy it separately?

[wild hemlock]

wait where are you from?

china?

[kind helm]

china but live in usa now

[wild hemlock]

oh yeah it will probably be 2 weeks

before you recive

[kind helm]

yea thats cool

[wild hemlock]

i cant survive 2 more weeks

with my apex pro

[kind helm]

not so unusual for keyboard stuff i think

[wild hemlock]

i am using my f8 key as spacebar

[kind helm]

more things don't increase the shipping by too much right?

[wild hemlock]

only shipping price

[kind helm]

i kinda wanna see if i can find sticky rice v2

[wild hemlock]

and the fastest shipping

with no import fees

is 40 dollars with my package

[kind helm]

where you at?

east or west

[wild hemlock]

denmark

[kind helm]

oh damn thats far

[wild hemlock]

yeah 🙂

[kind helm]

you said dollar i thought you in us

[wild hemlock]

nah im from us

moved here for studies

[kind helm]

[wild hemlock]

my fucking shipping is more than my case and keycaps

together

and like 80% of my switches

[wild hemlock]

i wont move back

im scared of kamala and trump

[kind helm]

lmao dont

[wild hemlock]

tho shipping is so expensive

so imma move to china

[kind helm]

HELL NO

if you want your kids to suffer then sure

[wild hemlock]

i wont go dont worry im scared of them

[last trout]

Okay so, someone was selling their entire setup and had a 60HE and he sold it to me separately for $130 (practically stealing at this point). I've been using the Azoth for a year now and the build quality from that to this is...well, terrible lol. The keycaps wobble really bad on the switches which apparently is a normal thing for Lekker switches? Idk if they're V1 or V2 on this board.

The plate is disgusting so it needs cleaned. What's everyone's recommendation as far as new switches, keycaps, and case? I know the Redux is generally what the go-to is for a case, which is fine. It gives me new plate options so I'm interested in that as well. Switch wise, I'm torn between the Jade Pro and Jade Max

[kind helm]

i had to study harder in china when i was in middle school compare to now i am in us doing phd fuckin 8am to 10pm

[calm pulsar]

what specifically?

[kind helm]

stab

[wild hemlock]

yeah i got it from UK

[calm pulsar]

ah, well these are 3rd party stabs yeah

[wild hemlock]

and shipping was 15 usd just as much as the stabs 😌

[kind helm]

if they have stock stab then i just gonna try them first

but if they don't i gonna try knight

mj praised them so much

[calm pulsar]

@glacial wind wow I just tried sw knights with xht-bdz and it seems so nice

maybe I just tuned them better overall this time, but still

it doesnt hurt

[wild hemlock]

who's MJ?

[kind helm]

some dude in this discord

:3

[wild hemlock]

oh did they leave?

[calm pulsar]

there is no stock stab with venom btw

[wild hemlock]

how long did it take to ship for you?

[glacial wind]

yeah it works fine just have to be very thin on the xht-bdz to make sure you don't overlube the tighter tolerance

[calm pulsar]

quite a while, cause I ordered in a different way

[ionic breach]

he did

[calm pulsar]

oh wait mj left?

[wild hemlock]

it might be the same unstable guy from boardzy's server

[calm pulsar]

who’s gonna keep all the creamy thocks in check 😦

[kind helm]

LMFAO

this dude has some gud keyboard knowledge

[wild hemlock]

yeah he is unstable

[calm pulsar]

lol

[wild hemlock]

mee6 level 86 something in boardzys server

like god damn

[calm pulsar]

yeah

[wild hemlock]

understandable atp

[calm pulsar]

tbh words boardzy server sound crazy already

[kind helm]

but dude was s44ting all over people when they don't speak his language

in a way

[wild hemlock]

yeah i was just in there to ask about a mouse

[kind helm]

i kinda like that tho lowkey

[calm pulsar]

lol yeah he was straightforward

[ionic breach]

I didn't mind mjj

helped people a fk ton

[calm pulsar]

yeah

[wild hemlock]

same he verbally assaulted me to getting a venom60

[calm pulsar]

btw was he who you got in an argument with? lol

[chilly mural]

Lmao, why

[kind helm]

i started trying wire balancing because of the link he was showing

[ionic breach]

nah lmao

[calm pulsar]

nah he’d respect you for it