🔧│keyboard_modding

[jagged hazel]

And fits my gothy vibe

[polar girder]

So many new switch options tf

wtf lol

Anything interesting or nah?

[untold wigeon]

Q: How many keys would you like on your board?

A: Yes.

[tropic urchin]

Keyboard sponsored by Battleship

[chilly mural]

That's small, it's an aircraft carrier, can at least carry 3 small keyboard with it.

Also, quite alright price wise. Just $200 (when fully assembled+lubed stabs) more compared to how much I've spent for my 80he + modification. Not sure about shipping tho.

[ionic breach]

oh man

the handle is so good

[devout torrent]

Which BoB is this? I’ve been trying to decide which one to buy

[polar girder]

PBS

[chilly mural]

I got Bob Ross

[polar girder]

https://cannonkeys.com/products/pbs-black-on-black

They will have more soon

[quasi hinge]

re-casing a friends wooting. What color keycaps would anyone suggest?

Needs to be shine through, so either wooting black or white, unless anyone knows of good quality shine through keycaps

open to other colors but decent shine through are hard to find

even shine through red

[long sparrow]

I built a keyboard for a friend with that exact case a few months ago - I ended up putting transparent black ABS keycaps on it and it looks and sounds incredible

finding a picture, one minute

[quasi hinge]

Ty

[quasi hinge]

Needs shine through because he also plays in the dark like me

[long sparrow]

I can't find my pic so I have them taking one when they wake up lol - but it was this keycap set from etsy: https://www.etsy.com/listing/1382332522/black-clear-translucent-keycap-set

[quasi hinge]

Oh wow

Those look nice! Ty

Would you know how they are in a dark room?

[long sparrow]

completely visible - honestly more than shine-throughs are. The LEDs on the PCB are waaaaay more than bright enough, even at 70% for tachyon it's a chistmas tree lol

[quasi hinge]

What color switches did you use? He got a white pc plate and geon raws

[fallen echo]

that entirely depends on how translucent your switches are, how efficient if any diffusor is, what colour your plate is and the lettering of your keycaps

[long sparrow]

Lekker 60 v2, and it was also the white PC plate

[quasi hinge]

Raws are decent for rgb

[fallen echo]

technically, so are jade maxes. but I am sure we would both agree the experience is vastly diverse.

[tropic urchin]

Maxes are the 8k of RGB with the smoothness of borderline 780p which is the real tragedy

[chilly mural]

soo bad it's not even the standard resolution

[tropic urchin]

you dont really realize it until you have a decent one to compare them and then it falls apart ;_;

The only thing they're good for is harvesting their springs

[chilly mural]

gotta salvage the investment somehow

[tropic urchin]

sometimes the toughest pill to swallow is the most necessary

[glacial wind]

Hrm maybe if wooting adds ttc magneto rgb/pom to the store I can use my spare gift voucher yo grab a few for sound test comparisons

[limpid shore]

U guys think these mods for 80He are worth it or not?

[untold wigeon]

Hey all, looking to either upgrade my 60HE or figure out what switches I wanna use on my 80HE if I decide to get one, what exactly makes the L45's so much lighter than the L60's? Is it the initial force or the bottom out force? Also debating just going with the L45 V2's but I've seen a lot of the third party compatible HE switches possess better sound qualities

[ornate quest]

the springs just need less force, that's pretty much along the whole travel

[untold wigeon]

I see, is there a switch compatibility list other than the one in #🪛│modding_faq I can use to help research what switches I have as options?

[viral vine]

bro how do yall get your geons out

raws

[calm pulsar]

never

[viral vine]

i have to relube stab🥹

[calm pulsar]

jokes aside just pry em with a switch puller, then push them from below detached plate, cause yeah they are IN there lol

[viral vine]

fr

[short birch]

i broke so many of the switches' tabs getting them out 😂

[viral vine]

like so many of the rgb diffusers js keep poppin out

[ornate quest]

that's a good way to make people buy new ones. just make them single use

[viral vine]

💀

dw only one has broken

[last trout]

What's everyone's favorite place to get good keycaps?

[limpid shore]

It went up by 7 € ☠️

I´ve got these

idk what brand tho

[viral vine]

to

bro

my switch puller js broke

[quiet bay]

raw hes

the best to use, the worst to remove

[calm pulsar]

and to disassemble

f2-60 pcbs started seeling in korea
too bad the case is $350💀

[viral vine]

bro my second pair are about to break

[calm pulsar]

I got a ton of teeth broken on my switches, they are fine in use, just a bit more annoying to get out

[rocky marten]

robbery icl

[little glen]

If i ever need to lube my geons i‘ll just get a second switch plate and an extra set of switches

[calm pulsar]

nah just submerge the plate with switches installed in lube and let it sink in for a couple of days

[fluid ravine]

heh

i've taken my raws out of my board about 10 times

so i could never

[calm pulsar]

now they have tolerances of lekker v1s

[muted sapphire]

looks good

What's the ε of it? lmao

I'm curious

[limpid shore]

whats taht?

[muted sapphire]

i will have to lube the springs of some cuz i am changing them

[muted sapphire]

the epsilon

[limpid shore]

€ this?

[muted sapphire]

that is equal to ε0 multiplied by εr

wait nvm i needed to ask what the εr of that is

idk what you guys call it in English

[limpid shore]

idk try to explain it

[jade storm]

the price?

[muted sapphire]

ε0 is how much the "material" opposes itself to electric forces in a vacuum

i can't explain it I'm so stupid

ε0 is how much the electric forces are resisted to in the void

[limpid shore]

thats the most info I can give u

[muted sapphire]

it's a silly question anyways

it's probably really low

like 2 or 3

i am assuming

[limpid shore]

🤷‍♂️

[muted sapphire]

i am precisely studying shit like that in physics

[limpid shore]

haha

[muted sapphire]

had a test 3 days ago about it lmao

[limpid shore]

I think electric field constant is the best explanation for that i recon?

[muted sapphire]

yeah

but there ur doing it in the void

[fluid ravine]

@calm pulsar added like a tube as a alternative for cable sleeves

[calm pulsar]

lol nice, that's crafty

[fluid ravine]

My dad didn't end up buying me sleeves when we were at home depot lol

[fluid ravine]

Indeed

[limpid shore]

I´ve got physics in 2 Semesters hope it Isn´t going to be that bad

[chilly mural]

That pc placement makes me scared

[limpid shore]

yeah in the vaccum right`?

[chilly mural]

I feel like you gonna accidentally kick it

[fluid ravine]

How so lmfao

[calm pulsar]

mine is on the right, it's fine

[limpid shore]

the rolls from the Chair probably put a dent in that already

[calm pulsar]

i'd hate my giant pc to take space on the table lol

[fluid ravine]

I had mine on the right but @jade storm told me to move it to the left so my cables can have extra length

[muted sapphire]

yeah because u are doing 1 divided by 4piε0

[fluid ravine]

This allowed my cables to like extend for the table to be at standing height

[muted sapphire]

if u change ε u change the k according to the material ur in

[chilly mural]

I got a hunch, plus I often move my legs around

[fluid ravine]

Ah lol

[chilly mural]

My pc is behind my desk, safely laid down

[fluid ravine]

My legs like extend across the bar thing of my table

Idek why my table was built with a fricking bar but oh well

Had to use like wood pieces to extend the height of my PC cus the bar was covering my DP/HDMI ports

[jade storm]

tuanv, you can get a PC table mount too

[fluid ravine]

Dont i have to drill it into the table?

[jade storm]

you might, but would be worth it

[fluid ravine]

But table is made out of tempered glass

The top atleast

[jade storm]

https://www.amazon.com/VIVO-Adjustable-Tool-Free-Installation-MOUNT-PC01C/dp/B0BHF5W87B/ref=sr_1_3?

[fluid ravine]

If it was made out of wood I would've like put the surge protector under my table and made a mount for my interface

[untold wigeon]

I want to try out one of those cork middle mats.

I wonder if @smoky totem could do that?

[fluid ravine]

Interesting

Kinda scary

[viral vine]

i think my backspace stabs are js shit😔

[dark quest]

I just threw away one of those vivo adjustable desk mount things

it wasn't great

if you have a surface you can drill into, you can buy some black steel pipe from homedepot or whatever and make a pc holder

[smoky totem]

Nah sorry

[viral vine]

i swapped from poron to silicone

[untold wigeon]

Oh well

[quaint mirage]

i just want to buy a plate on kbdfans for $15, is there a way where i dont have to pay for the $20 shpping.... thats some weird shit

[calm pulsar]

try aliexpress, kbdfans has an official store there

[little glen]

try their aliexpress store

[quaint mirage]

ohh okok thank you

cuz i was not finna pay $20 shippingg

[little glen]

pick up some other stuff while ur at it

geon raw he and some spacebar foam

[quaint mirage]

i think i prefer the jades

been using it for a fat min onw

does the plate from kbd work with the module?

i got the module kit and wondering if it would work

[calm pulsar]

if ANSI yes it works

which do you want to get?

[torn wasp]

Hello first time here

Anyone knows a case like the omnitype lite bauer for the 60he ?

[viscid gulch]

so like a xray case?

https://wooting-technologies.notion.site/de7a52e2b5a941258a17e448b0c9d9b0?v=5ec0b31c59db4a51b8a86a1288249e9f

here are cases that are compatible with the 60he

check here

@torn wasp

[torn wasp]

yes like that

I saw on the notion link manny of them but i was wondering if anybody knows another case like that

I know we can found great things if we search deeply but I did not found yet

[untold wigeon]

Sup all, jade, jade max or jade pro for 60He+?

[little glen]

geon raw he

cheaper and better

[untold wigeon]

Alright thanks!

[little glen]

just make sure you get raw he not one of the other raw non he switches

[untold wigeon]

Oki doki 👍👍

@little glen mane sry for ping but which one should I get, right now im using Lekker 45, there’s Geon raw he 40, 50 and 60 g

[little glen]

if you want the lighest go 40

i went for the 50

i like it at 50 tbh

[untold wigeon]

Then 50, thanks again!

[tropic urchin]

Out of those 3 the Jade pros are probably the better choice. RAWs are cheaper, has great tolerances and will give better RGB if that’s valuable to you.

[untold wigeon]

Okey thanks!🙏 I will get the raw

[tropic urchin]

Won't go wrong with either, but the RAWs have a nice, buttery smooth feel and are in the ballpark of the Jade sound profile regardless

[untold wigeon]

LETS GO FLYERS!!!!

[untold wigeon]

Ugh they suck.

[knotty iron]

Raw HE also is very good for controlled keystrokes unlike jade maxes, not sure who benefits nearly as much as me from controlled keystrokes tho

jade maxes have insane friction, probably because of the PC stem instead of being made of POM

[untold wigeon]

Ahh i have seen your reviews on them.( i think its you lol) Such a shame as they look and sound nice.

Maybe ill pick them up in future if they update and fix the issue. Apparently some people have it some dont.

Im going to go for l45s or Raws personally

[knotty iron]

Raws are great for speed and spamming

lekkers are better for control I would say if you want to do controlled keystrokes

Raw HE still get tge job done for control but not as well given their shorter travel distance

[untold wigeon]

Hmm nice to know. Is the shorter travel distance actually that noticeable?

[knotty iron]

for me yes

and I really like the 3.4mm travel

because I play geometry dash as my main game

[untold wigeon]

Thank you, i may go for the raws then. I mainly play fps

[knotty iron]

yeah probably Raw HEs then

Just a quick note is that Raw HEs and Jades may require a bit of time to calibrate before the kbs perform best (this will be solved when wootility v5 is in full release, not alpha or beta, as there will be switch profiles that the kb can use to optimize for the magnets and travel distance)

my 80HE tends to double press on the space bar and thats only with the Raw HEs at least for now, not an issue for the lekker v2s

[low flame]

Know any websites that sells thick oem keycaps?

Every time I look for keycaps they either are double shot pbt or cherry profiled

I’m looking for tall thick keycaps

[kind helm]

i set my rt to 0.15 and never had a issue with raw. are you sure that is not your spacebar being overlubed?

[quasi hinge]

Same

[quasi hinge]

I play fps, switching to the raws from raptors made a world of a difference

feels like its a 'tighter' control of movement

[glass comet]

is there a reason why everyone seems to like the geon raw he switches?

[kind helm]

cheaper than other options while being low wobble, smooth, and produce a decent sound

[marsh saffron]

cheaper than other switches while having better stem wobble with a really clean sound

[quasi hinge]

Arguably the best switch out rn for the wootings

[robust siren]

our lord and savior Geon leads us to the pearly white gates

[glacial wind]

Geon raw he saves us from eternal damnation and delivers us blessings and mansions in his kingdom of heaven

[calm pulsar]

Geon be praised 🙏 (this prayer has been typed on a 100% Geon HE keyboard)

[formal ferry]

is there any problem with lazy lubing? i dont wanna take the switches out

[ionic breach]

what switches?

[formal ferry]

gateron jade and gateron smoothie

[ionic breach]

gaterons makes smoothies?

[formal ferry]

not that kind but yeah

[ionic breach]

those are mx which aint for wooting

but both are factory lubed so u can just bag lube the springs

[formal ferry]

ik and im asking for both

[ionic breach]

15 minutes max

[formal ferry]

well as i mentioned before i dont wanna take the switches out

[ionic breach]

what is lazy lubing?

how u gunna do that without taking it out?

[kind helm]

if you are talking about squeezing oil through the top of the stem

please STOP

[ionic breach]

ya dont do that

[formal ferry]

no just more like using a brush to lube them without taking them out

[rough pebble]

which geon raw switch is the best fit for the wooting?

[ionic breach]

brush what?

the outside?

[formal ferry]

pushing the stem down and brush the inside

[kind helm]

if you lazy just dont mod and deal with the stock switch man

[ionic breach]

geon raw he

[ionic breach]

no need

[quasi hinge]

Personally I like the 50g one

[ionic breach]

just leave it

[quasi hinge]

its really personal

[kind helm]

you probably take more time trying to jam the damn brush in there

[quasi hinge]

https://geon.works/products/geon-raw-he-switch?variant=44485640388771

[quasi hinge]

The difference between the 3 is strength of press

higher number means higher resistance

[rough pebble]

Thanks for the feedback. I don't really know my preference yet and I have a gut feeling that my wallet is going to hate me while I figure it out.

[quasi hinge]

They are on the cheaper side

50g seems to be the most popular

you could order 10 of each first if you are oc

[ionic breach]

that would cost a lot in shipping

[quasi hinge]

but I swear by the 50s

[quasi hinge]

If you order directly via Geon

I am able to get free shipping where I live

there are local sellers and import apps

Depending on where he lives, maybe he has those options

My friend just did, that, takes about 1 week to 2, he ordered both 1 pack of 40s and 50s

tried the 40s and loved them

then ordered another 60 for his 60he

40s are too light for me

[quasi hinge]

If you cant do that, try to compare the operating forces with any switches you have and go with the closest one

I came from Geon raptors and so the 50g was the natural choice and they are perfect for me

[rough pebble]

I'll look into a little more. Just found about wooting today and I'm really liking their wooting 80 HE. My only issue with it is that there's no End key and I heavily use that key. is it possible change the keycap and remap on wootings?

[marsh saffron]

Yes, they even include said keycaps

[quasi hinge]

Also if you get the raws, some suggest to change the stabs too however it is not required

I did and used the TX 1.6 long pole

but again, its not necessary

[calm pulsar]

or geon stem spacers

[quasi hinge]

or this

[quasi hinge]

all things being equal, cost aside, what is the best route?

new stabs or spacers?

or again the answer lies somewhere in the middle lol

[calm pulsar]

considering stock stabs are good, from my experience I think spacers are totally viable

at the very least its less hassle and cheaper, plus you learn to tune your stabs, if it comes to it

[opal umbra]

has anyone in here used keebtape

[calm pulsar]

but I use TX AP long pole now and theyre fine

[quasi hinge]

yes agreed but is there a definitive answer as to the best route?

[calm pulsar]

I guess long pole stabs are better just within a couple of percents just because their stem is a uniform part, compared to using a spacer, but irl I didnt notice any difference

I just kinda feel better knowing the stems themselves are long pole lol

[quasi hinge]

Yeah same

and that the spacers could degrade over time

[rough pebble]

what issue does replacing the stab or adding spacers fix?

[calm pulsar]

tilting of stab keycaps if you press with force on their edges while using shorter travel switches

not that noticeable tbh

but nice to fix it

[kind helm]

isn't that just tape mod but a bit more fancy

[opal umbra]

yeah lol

just fancy tape

it does sound different from regular tape tho

[kind helm]

i saw it when i was looking at their mats

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4daNGthy2vk

[kind helm]

same

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71NWMOcTsDg also be mind full of the screw holes if you get it, not cut for wooting's keeb

[quasi hinge]

its just anoder tape for tape mod

[kind helm]

think for the price the difference is kinda L

10 dollar for a set

THEIR OWN 60% keebmat is 1 dollar cheaper

comon son

[quasi hinge]

haha

[calm pulsar]

lol wtf

[quasi hinge]

but but marketing

[calm pulsar]

tbh I think their products seem overpriced, like the keeb tape or "thockfilm" lul

[calm pulsar]

yeah

[ionic breach]

how much is moleskin?

[kind helm]

marketing can suck me, same with kytox, we not here putting our keyboards through fire and steel

[calm pulsar]

btw my krytox arrives tomorrow

xd

[ionic breach]

https://www.amazon.sg/Moleskin-Adhesive-Padding-Prevention-Friction/dp/B09D9HX7GK?th=1 i mean

[kind helm]

https://www.amazon.com/FirstChoice-Extra-Durable-Moleskin-Yards/dp/B01LYVTECJ?keywords=moleskin&language=en_US 9 dollars from the above video

[calm pulsar]

5g for $4

[quasi hinge]

They sell screws as "Metallic mechanical buttress"

[kind helm]

super lube 10 dollar for 3oz -> 85g (to be fair in order make it a bit thinner i need to also get the oil which is another 10 dollars)

[calm pulsar]

based

[quasi hinge]

but 15$ a screw

the extra revenue is for the marketing department lol

They sell keycaps as "Plastic linguistic signifiers"

200$ pls (they could beat gmk)

lol

[opal umbra]

are u just looking through the whole keebmat site

[quasi hinge]

no

im just thinking like the marketing dept

if they are reading maybe they can take inspiration haha

[calm pulsar]

this is a good one

[opal umbra]

oh

lol

what keycaps do u guys use

[quasi hinge]

wootings

[kind helm]

https://divinikey.com/products/jtk-formidable-keycap-set

[calm pulsar]

gmk

[quasi hinge]

https://kbdfans.com/products/pbtfans-doubleshot-wob?srsltid=AfmBOopkPWhc1Ii84N-4FuKAetVaglpFpbHZn17IfGrOo6t7OccuHtSp

[opal umbra]

i just ordered these lol

[kind helm]

the green one is vibing so hard

[opal umbra]

for my new board

[quasi hinge]

They are great

[calm pulsar]

"plastic motionless monitors displaying keyboard key functions without requiring extra power"

[opal umbra]

i thought they looked kinda basic

but i wanted to try them out

whats so good about them

[quasi hinge]

depends on what look you want

[opal umbra]

they are coming on halloween with my new board

[kind helm]

you buy from the website or AE

[opal umbra]

from kbdfans

[calm pulsar]

blacked out 80he

based

[kind helm]

AE so much cheaper shipping (unless you getting multiple items at once then idk)

[opal umbra]

what is ae

[quasi hinge]

premium feel and minimalist design

[kind helm]

https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256804147053319.html?utparam-url=scene%3Asearch|query_from%3A

[opal umbra]

oh

[quasi hinge]

lemokey P1 pro

[kind helm]

its kbdfans own store if i am not crazy

[calm pulsar]

oh the knob lmao

im dumb

but still great looking

[calm pulsar]

it is

[kind helm]

kbdfanbuying from their website is 25 for me

[opal umbra]

oh wow

the shipping was a lot cheaper

[quasi hinge]

I wish the 80he had a knob lol

[opal umbra]

i ordered them alongside my board tho

[kind helm]

yee then idk, i am not sure how ae calculates shipping

[calm pulsar]

AE is usually slower but cheaper cause they ship large quantities of diff goods at a time, at least it seems so

[kind helm]

yea that make sense

[opal umbra]

i had to pay around 30 bucks for shipping of my board and keycaps

i also got a discount on my keycaps cause i got them with the board

[kind helm]

[calm pulsar]

I have this cable, black gold variant

I looked specifically for a thicker cable, so this one is nice

[kind helm]

saw that, would be so nice with my keeb, but white table and sold out

[quasi hinge]

Please tell me its not listed as "Electric transmitting apparatus"

and costs 150$

[kind helm]

the black version is nice those. i love this little piece

35 before shipping, shipping is 5.47

[calm pulsar]

it comes in a nice bag too

[kind helm]

5ft (1.5m)

[calm pulsar]

lmao

read that in the Portal AI voice

[kind helm]

LOL

i just noticed my damn mails are in the pic, oops

[shadow fern]

Man, Gat is really milking the shit out of this Jade line up, holy.

[little glen]

Jade pro may ultra?

[quasi hinge]

Saiyan max jade

[little glen]

Some day they will run out of names and start over with jade 2 and go through all of them again

[quasi hinge]

Emerald

[opal umbra]

ultra jadestinct

[shadow fern]

Jade, Jade Pro, Jade Max, Jade 'Gaming' and not to mention the 5-6+ other non-mag Jade varients too lmao

[quasi hinge]

Ultra max fail

[shadow fern]

Apple of switches atm

[little glen]

Jade (mega)

[quasi hinge]

I was able to return my Jade Maxs

At least they refunded

[little glen]

Jade g max

[shadow fern]

They are bad. I only got them to sound decent with Polychroma keycaps and I don't even like / want to use them I just had to see the aesthetic temp

[calm pulsar]

the only worth it are jade pros imo, maybe jade gaming too cause they are the same price

[opal umbra]

what are the minor differences between them all

[quasi hinge]

Raw master race

[calm pulsar]

maxes have stickiness issues

but sound quieter overall

[little glen]

If geon releases a new he switch i‘ll be excited to see how it is

[quasi hinge]

100% this

[little glen]

New jade variants are kinda boring

[quasi hinge]

Sound was amazing

[calm pulsar]

I will say tho im gaming on them currently (cause have to lube my frankenswitch), and I've been fine this whole time 😄

[quasi hinge]

What is your recipe?

[calm pulsar]

jade bottom
raw stem
black knight upper
jade pro spring

[shadow fern]

My Max's are fine, I think you just have to use them for a bit for them to equal out. I've not had any issues with them other than the usual keycaps glued in and they just don't sound good, especially to be a 'Max' lol

[little glen]

I swapped to geons and now my 80he feels too sensitive but i dont want to update firmware until all the issues are sorted out

[calm pulsar]

im using black jade bottom but its a recolor of normal jades

[little glen]

Thats an expensive frankenswitch

[shadow fern]

Too sensitive, welp, I guess you know how to remedy that

[quasi hinge]

What force did you get

[quasi hinge]

Wow quite a mash up

[little glen]

Get used to it

[opal umbra]

what an assortment of switches

[calm pulsar]

yeah lol, my recommendation is just jade pros or raw he

but I like the sound of raw stem + BK housing

[shadow fern]

or just change the actuation distance

[quasi hinge]

How do they compare to the raws

[calm pulsar]

i'd say it's kinda like the tolerances level of geons, but with the sound signature of jades

so like a bit more low end in the bottom out I'd guess

jades and raws are both closed bottom but raws are semi-closed so there's a difference

I think I prefer jades, but raws are a very well made switch

no-brainer for most

[opal umbra]

a frankenswitch ive always wanted to do are with the pink and black gateron box ink v2s

combine them

and they will be a blackpink switch

[shadow fern]

https://tenor.com/view/joey-joey-tribiani-friends-matt-leblanc-friends-joey-gif-21815137

[opal umbra]

idk what this gif is supposed to mean

[little glen]

Would stickerbombing the back of your pcb work as a tapemod?

[opal umbra]

maybe

prob not

you could be the first to try it

[little glen]

Not going to but i had the thought

Best use those shitty paper stickers that never come off right

[opal umbra]

lmao yep

[kind helm]

has anyone tried plateless with sticky rice :3

[opal umbra]

i put some stickers on the back of my boards

[kind helm]

i wish i can try that with salvation, too bad i dont own any sticky rice and don't have the 60module 😦

[opal umbra]

sticky rice?

[opal umbra]

oh its a switch

?

[kind helm]

the legs clip to the pcb, so it would be interesting to see how would magnet switch sound without a plate

yea

[quasi hinge]

Are you like a switch savant

[kind helm]

HE IS

[quasi hinge]

Or have some weird obsession haha

I admire the dedication to the craft

[kind helm]

hey hey hey we are all obsessed with keyboard modding here :3

i wish i can try his frog mini

[quasi hinge]

Yeah yeah but this

Quite an mash up

[calm pulsar]

lol I guess I just like making the most of my HE keyboard, cause they are usually considered worse in sound and feel compared to MX

[kind helm]

i think its more forced since the switch options are very meh at the moment 😦

[quasi hinge]

Fair

[calm pulsar]

that yeah

[kind helm]

i want double stage long spring with sticky rice legs

and a 60module

plateless salvation true flex with HE switches

[quasi hinge]

Would you like the spicy pork with that

[kind helm]

its 3:27am in the morning and i just had my morning coffee i am good :3

[opal umbra]

damn

[quasi hinge]

Jk forgive me pls

[opal umbra]

did u just wake up

or u staying up

[quasi hinge]

Wait you want flex with he?

[kind helm]

woke up 10pm :3

[opal umbra]

wth

bro is nocturnal

what do u do at night lmao

[calm pulsar]

me too, I work night shifts from home

[kind helm]

yeee a little bit, i just sleep whenever unless i have a meeting to attend

[opal umbra]

oh

[paper bloom]

yo

its afternoon here

[opal umbra]

it is 12:29am here

in US west coast

[paper bloom]

Morning to you

[kind helm]

thats W

[calm pulsar]

lol 12:29 PM

for me

[kind helm]

east coast :3

[paper bloom]

I work night shifts at home

by playing games to pass the time

[calm pulsar]

samee lul

[paper bloom]

LOOL

[opal umbra]

whats your occupation

[calm pulsar]

sometimes gotta work tho

[kind helm]

you one of those who is inheriting 3 buildings from mommy and doesn't need to do shit

[opal umbra]

working at home must be nice

[kind helm]

?

[paper bloom]

im a freelancer

[calm pulsar]

tech support

[kind helm]

working at home is not nice if you need to be productive

[opal umbra]

you talking to me?

[kind helm]

forcing yourself to work is pain

[opal umbra]

oh

[paper bloom]

im always productive

I do 150 pushups

50 pull ups

a day

and a 10km run

[opal umbra]

one punch man reference?

[quasi hinge]

Sounds familiar

[kind helm]

one punch man in the chat

LOLOLOLOL

[paper bloom]

LOL

[quasi hinge]

Bruh

[calm pulsar]

are you also bald

[quasi hinge]

How do you type with those hands

[paper bloom]

Yes

Just YES

[quasi hinge]

Win

Just win

[paper bloom]

EXACTLY

i also got that 60 gram switch

[calm pulsar]

waiting for 3rd season

[paper bloom]

installed on my pc

[kind helm]

150 GRAM SWITCH

SUPER RAW

[paper bloom]

YES

I could do 100 core

Tho

[paper bloom]

It isnt fun if youre constantly

training at night

There are days where i gotta do 15km runs

i mean its not that bad

Wait till u do 100 squats

and a 10km run

[calm pulsar]

I believe you're from Singapore?

[paper bloom]

Yea i am

[calm pulsar]

probably super nice to run around there

[paper bloom]

FUCK NO

LOL

[calm pulsar]

lol

[paper bloom]

Id rather run in japan

or in the US

[ionic breach]

lmao who wants to run in sg

[kind helm]

us west weather is W

[paper bloom]

Idm

i can do it

Ive ran park connectors and parks before

its not that bad

[ionic breach]

I do it at night

[calm pulsar]

lol I just seen videos and its nice there

[paper bloom]

I run at 5 pm

dude

[ionic breach]

or really really early morning

[kind helm]

east count, asia. L weather

[paper bloom]

You havent conscripted yet right or u arent Singaporean?

[kind helm]

can't go outside without freezing to death or sweating like a puppy

[ionic breach]

not yet soon

[paper bloom]

DONT BE ONE

UNTIL UR FUCKING 40

[ionic breach]

I am sg alr lmao

just 18

[paper bloom]

Dude u gonna serve NS

LOL

as a PR

[ionic breach]

ik

[paper bloom]

LOOOL

[ionic breach]

I was born here

[paper bloom]

You better make sure ur IPPT

Gold

[ionic breach]

I will try

not fit rn

[paper bloom]

Dude im almost gold

OFF BY 1 POINT

[ionic breach]

[paper bloom]

im soon enlisting

[ionic breach]

rough

best of luck

just got my pre enlistment letter

[paper bloom]

Where u gg?

I gg tekong instead of Pasir ris camp

😂

[ionic breach]

not sure

[paper bloom]

Ur pre enlistment will say

[ionic breach]

just a health checkup I think

[opal umbra]

damn in singapore enlistment is required

for how long

[ionic breach]

2y

[paper bloom]

not rlly

no

its considered 2 years

UNLESS u pass IPPT

its 2 months off

instead of 24 ur serving 22

and u every weekend can book out

Depending on the day itself

[ionic breach]

[paper bloom]

@ionic breachi recommend u go above silver

Or 61 points

I was supposdly PES E9

Till i upgrade my PES status to B1

[ionic breach]

will do

[paper bloom]

Also dont ever sign on

EVER

[ionic breach]

wut？

[paper bloom]

yea dont sign on

government contracts

even after your 2 years

Its a waste of time

[wild hemlock]

whats the best sounding HE switch?

[ionic breach]

ya ofc

[ionic breach]

preference

but the 4 well praised ones rn are

[kind helm]

bro's pinyin came out

[paper bloom]

GEON RAW HE

[paper bloom]

NABE

I SHOW U HAN YI PING YIN

BRO

[ionic breach]

geon raws he, lekker v2, jade/jadepros and black knghts

[ionic breach]

[calm pulsar]

damn just how sensitive that socd is

[kind helm]

not the OG jade

[kind helm]

how low did you set the rt or whatever to, damn

[ruby hill]

Lekker v2 didn’t work well with venom

[wild hemlock]

what keyboard is it

[kind helm]

kinda nutty, i dont think that is how it supposed to be behave

[ruby hill]

Venom

[calm pulsar]

venom60he in frog mini

[wild hemlock]

damn

rich ahh

[calm pulsar]

venom pcb itself is way cheaper

[wild hemlock]

i wish i had the funds to go custom

[wild hemlock]

yeah but for some reason cases where i live

[kind helm]

that combo is not expensive though, but relatively hard to get

[wild hemlock]

are mental

[calm pulsar]

what seemed wrong?

[wild hemlock]

what switches you using?

[calm pulsar]

yeah usually shipping and costs suck in this hobby lol

[opal umbra]

yep

[calm pulsar]

for now jade maxes, but im making a frankenswitch

[opal umbra]

especially if its from overseas

[ruby hill]

With 0.1 and 0 deadzone, it always stop walking, but raw he works perfect

[calm pulsar]

just being lazy to lube lul

[wild hemlock]

which ones you mixing

[kind helm]

wasn't jade max the one that is sticking to the bottom a tiny bit?

[calm pulsar]

not for me tbh

[paper bloom]

@ionic breach If you need any Training tips or tricks

i can help btw

im soon going to take my IPPT

[calm pulsar]

it can be a bit sticky when pressed an angles, but I don't do that in normal typing and gaming

[paper bloom]

in 2 more days

[ionic breach]

🙏

[calm pulsar]

geon raw he stem with black knight housing

[ionic breach]

anything would be amazing

[calm pulsar]

and jade bottom

[kind helm]

ah

[paper bloom]

Rn deadass u want me to dm you?

[ionic breach]

ya sure, any quick tips

I'm training shooting rn lmao

[paper bloom]

LOL

[wild hemlock]

nice

how much is the full build

as the keeb im buying is 170 usd including shipping

[calm pulsar]

maybe you need to look at rapid trigger settings too? also you can select travel distance of your switch in the software

[wild hemlock]

but i would overpay for a good one

[kind helm]

@calm pulsar do you have like a 30sec typing test kind of sound test :3

[wild hemlock]

yeah please 🙏

[calm pulsar]

uhh tbh I paid hella for the case, but it's not being produced anymore and also I had to pay a ton from shipping cause im from russia

[paper bloom]

I used to have one

[calm pulsar]

my best one in the frog is probably raws with alu and zero foams

will upload in a sec

[opal umbra]

you are making a gaming board right

[kind helm]

[paper bloom]

@ionic breach Dm'd

[wild hemlock]

yeah

with venom60he PCB

[calm pulsar]

are you getting a 7u?

[wild hemlock]

what?

sorry

[opal umbra]

oh yeah that sounds nice

[calm pulsar]

it comes in 2 layouts, standard and with longer 7u spacebar and spllit right shift and split backspace

[ruby hill]

I did tried setting as raptor 4.0 and gateron 4.1
Still happens

[calm pulsar]

well I havent used any open bottoms in a long time so dunno tbh

but I was fine with either raws or gateron switches

[ruby hill]

Venom 60he seems manufactured by Sharp? I saw a Sharp logo

[wild hemlock]

probably not

as i dont know what it is good for💀

[calm pulsar]

where you got it from 😄

[kind helm]

that makes me wanna try cf plate

[ruby hill]

Raw he works fine

[kind helm]

clear af

[wild hemlock]

taobao

[calm pulsar]

its an alternative layout for 60%, has symmetrical bottom row and what I also mentioned earlier

I will show you a pic

as you can see split backspace and right shift here
longer spacebar too

[wild hemlock]

ooh nah im not getting that

tbf i just looked at the price

never the pcb

so i dont even know if thats what im getting 😭

[calm pulsar]

it can run normal backspace btw

you can just select in the software

[kind helm]

that symmetric bottom row

[ruby hill]

I use tofu60 kind of boring
Frog mini hard to find these day

[calm pulsar]

its a solid case

[wild hemlock]

i rather have it that no case

[kind helm]

any flex with the tadpole mount

[paper bloom]

I got one on a website that sells it atm

[calm pulsar]

@wild hemlock might look into freebird60, its a cheap case but nice looking, but not sure how much it would be for you

[paper bloom]

and no ones buying the frog mini atm

[calm pulsar]

frog mini will never be produced anymore
frog leggera will replace it

[ruby hill]

Hard to find it now sold out everywhere

[calm pulsar]

tofu60?? wdym

[wild hemlock]

my wallet has spoken and said no

[ruby hill]

Frog mini

[calm pulsar]

ah

[wild hemlock]

im not spending more on a case then i am on a pcb

[calm pulsar]

get a prebuilt 60he then lul, you can always mod later

[wild hemlock]

aight will do

[untold wigeon]

CAHT

SILENCE

[wild hemlock]

no you

[untold wigeon]

I AM THE DUKE OF ARAKIS

[wild hemlock]

schizo

[kind helm]

i will always pay more for case

[calm pulsar]

[wild hemlock]

i hope all your switches pins are bent

[calm pulsar]

alumazion

[untold wigeon]

What do i do with this

[kind helm]

alumeh :3

[untold wigeon]

JOSH

WHAT DO I DO

[calm pulsar]

its like for burger mount

[untold wigeon]

Wtf is that

[ruby hill]

Prevent pcb shorting

[untold wigeon]

I’m new to keyboard

[calm pulsar]

wooting has videos on that

[untold wigeon]

So for the module?

[calm pulsar]

you put it on the standoffs before screwing the module on I believe

[kind helm]

youtube is your friend, google is also your friend, then you have pinned massage which i just noticed recently, and you have modding_faq

[untold wigeon]

Are these also for the module?

[calm pulsar]

to prevent direct contact

[calm pulsar]

nah just use 4 preinstalled standoffs, dont use these

just use 2 on left and 2 on right mounting points

for better sound

[kind helm]

the other day i spend 30min teaching some guy how to lube stab, a video demo is not enough for the dude my patience just ran dry completely

[calm pulsar]

lmao its this channel most of the time

[opal umbra]

damn that must have sucked

i hate lubing switches

ive done it once

never again

[marsh saffron]

I've done it twice

Will do it again

[opal umbra]

took way too long for me

[marsh saffron]

Unfortunately

Wait I've done it three times nvm

[opal umbra]

stabs i dont mind as it doesnt take as much time

[paper bloom]

I just lube the stabs

[calm pulsar]

I have to clean all parts of my frankenswitch and lube em too💀

[kind helm]

1 hour lubed a 65%, not bad

[marsh saffron]

My first time was 6h

Second and third was like 3

[wild hemlock]

how can i short curcuit my keyboard without insurance noticing?

[kind helm]

theres lube on them already no? i thought mainly you just add maybe a tiny bit on the spring you chillin

[marsh saffron]

Bros tryna commit fraud

[wild hemlock]

no shit

[calm pulsar]

I just rebuild them so many times, the lube attracted a lot of dust so its messy

[marsh saffron]

Probably switches with different types of lube

[calm pulsar]

want to redo again, with better lube too

[marsh saffron]

Or that ig^

[calm pulsar]

I think my old lube wasnt that good

[kind helm]

ahh, for me cleaning is the annoying part

[wild hemlock]

what lube should i get

as i know 0 about it

all switches ive had were pre lubed

[opal umbra]

205 g0

[kind helm]

i dont have cleaning machine and wiping these tiny parts with tissue and tweezer is a fucking bitch

[calm pulsar]

yeah that's me soon lul

I considered just going with stock jade pros cause they are super nice, but my frankenswitch still won in my sound preference

[wild hemlock]

#mentalhealth

[kind helm]

i am not gonna lie when i fcked up and thought about redoing lube for a whole set of switches, i ended up buying a new set instead

fck that

[calm pulsar]

lmao

[wild hemlock]

give me the fucked up ones

ill pay 80% off

[kind helm]

🫢 i returned the lubed one to amazon

LMAO

[wild hemlock]

XD

i mean they dont check for that

[calm pulsar]

lmao

[wild hemlock]

so its smart

[opal umbra]

they will never know

[wild hemlock]

what 65% keeb is easily modable

[opal umbra]

someone will get a set of fucked up switches

[wild hemlock]

as 60% is aids

[calm pulsar]

I hate 65% sorry

[wild hemlock]

maybe 75%?

[opal umbra]

i have a tofu 65 2.0

[calm pulsar]

I hate them too xdd

[kind helm]

i brought a set of gateron silver once, and discover that i brought the wrong version with single stage spring. lubed and used it for a short period til my double stage set came, returned the single stage set no problem

[wild hemlock]

so you only like 60%

thats wild

[kind helm]

amazon is the best 🙂

[calm pulsar]

nah I like either 60% or a grown man's TKL

[wild hemlock]

i like full size and 65 75

[calm pulsar]

fair
I think tofu65 might be very customizable

not sure about any 75s

[marsh saffron]

60% best

[opal umbra]

yeah its pretty nice

[kind helm]

if i have to choose 65% is the goat. all the keys i need for daily and fn will serve me well for the keys that i dont use often

60% coding and writing is L

[opal umbra]

it has 3 different mounting styles

[calm pulsar]

im a noob coder so Im fine on 60% 😄
maybe some day I will get a TKL for that

[wild hemlock]

nah you need full size

for coding

[opal umbra]

i have my first 75% coming on the way

the odin 75

[wild hemlock]

keyboard names are so sad

[calm pulsar]

is that the one without f row?

[opal umbra]

it has one

[kind helm]

wallet is crying for help

[calm pulsar]

ah k

[kind helm]

but now ic why you going for the wob

[opal umbra]

lmao it is

[kind helm]

send pic when done

[opal umbra]

ok

i still have to wait for my switches to come lol

idk when they are coming

[kind helm]

what you planning to use

[opal umbra]

but my board is coming on halloween

[calm pulsar]

im waiting for luminkey lx60, thinking of doing my first proper MX build

[wild hemlock]

make it spooky then

[wild hemlock]

luminkey is bad

[opal umbra]

the pink gateron box ink v2

[wild hemlock]

https://tenor.com/view/shrimple-codda-cod-are-you-gif-27585010

they suck

[kind helm]

now that you mention tkl, i regret not considering venom 75, i didn't know 60he's pcb is "outdated" now

[calm pulsar]

I just liked how it looks, might just build my venom60he there and game on it

[kind helm]

[wild hemlock]

man you are keyboard god i wont doubt you

is there a venom75he?

[calm pulsar]

nah its time to stop spending so much money on keyboards

[kind helm]

nice

[calm pulsar]

there is a tkl and 65 coming iirc

tkl already exists

[kind helm]

you would have to stop coming to this channel sir

[wild hemlock]

👀

okay send me link to tkl

[kind helm]

https://geon.works/products/venom-he-tkl-pcb-plates

[calm pulsar]

oh its out of stock rn on international store

lul

[wild hemlock]

lemme import it with taobao

.D

[calm pulsar]

I got my geon stuff using mail forwarding from korea, but I guess taobao is also nice

[kind helm]

cn gamers creaming from the unstable wooting clones, not sure if you can find them on taobao

raw is not even popular in cn, that is still crazy to me

[wild hemlock]

most wooting clones are stable

unless they are are the ATK one

[paper bloom]

Btw

wheres the VENOM60HE link

Or is it sold out atm

[calm pulsar]

https://smartstore.naver.com/geonlab

[paper bloom]

OOF

[calm pulsar]

I got from here

[paper bloom]

L

[kind helm]

the 60he one disappeared

0.0!

[ruby hill]

[calm pulsar]

wait wtf really

[paper bloom]

Yea

[calm pulsar]

nah they will stock it for sure

[kind helm]

it used to be under this category no?

am i tripping

[calm pulsar]

yeah im not seeing it either

[kind helm]

hopefully once they restock either dinivikey or kbdfan would sell them

[calm pulsar]

once they go international could be the case

[ruby hill]

Venom60he abandoned ?

[kind helm]

would be great if novelkey sell them

5 dollar shipping and 3 day delivery

if wooting don't update their module i am switching to geon for their higher polling

[calm pulsar]

they are still making firmware updates

so I think it's all good

[kind helm]

abandoning soldout product would be nutty

[wild hemlock]

they are probably trying to go global

[calm pulsar]

geon could be taking time to prepare for the f2-60 sales, so maybe will update the venom60 listing later

[untold wigeon]

EVERYONE

It sais there’s a screw here but there isn’t

[wild hemlock]

unscrew your screw

[untold wigeon]

There’s no screw

[wild hemlock]

what is better venom60 or wooting 60he?

[kind helm]

rotate your pcb

[calm pulsar]

maybe its a picture from older 60he

[untold wigeon]

THERES NO SCREW

[kind helm]

thats the bottom 2 on each side it looks like

[calm pulsar]

wooting is good for out of the box experience and it has better firmware and software

[wild hemlock]

you right

ive tried a couple different he keyboards due to me suggesting a bunch to my friends

i just dont know which one i want myself

[kind helm]

easy to use software but restricted settings. you can go lower actuation with other brand but stability maybe dog poop :3

[calm pulsar]

venom though has 8k polling rate and some enthusiast features that I like

[wild hemlock]

its between 60he 80he made68

[kind helm]

yea those 8 are right

[untold wigeon]

But the top right screw isn’t there

[wild hemlock]

then you already screwed it out

[calm pulsar]

just see what's on your plate

plate standoffs align with screw holes on pcb

[wild hemlock]

Arcsyko start caring about mice and mousepads

😄

[untold wigeon]

There’s a sticker onstead

[kind helm]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T8879XBB8rI

[untold wigeon]

Instead

[kind helm]

i will buy this if he sells it

[calm pulsar]

lol I used razer for a long time, now on ninjutso, but im not that deep into the mouse rabbit hole

[calm pulsar]

Bigsly type shit

[wild hemlock]

lazy guy

get on

[calm pulsar]

I need to get out

of my room

more often

[wild hemlock]

no

[kind helm]

he knows how to use them mechanical engineering software?

[wild hemlock]

cause then you get drafted

and i need more keyboard advice

[calm pulsar]

lol

[wild hemlock]

get the superlight dex

[calm pulsar]

nahh

[kind helm]

the new super light is L

[calm pulsar]

you see the difference

L ogitech
W injutso

[kind helm]

from what i heard is pretty much the same s44t as the OG one

[wild hemlock]

is it the sora v2 you have

[kind helm]

OP1 8k is OP

[calm pulsar]

yes

[kind helm]

[wild hemlock]

i mean i just mod my mice

it sucks to do

but saves weight

[kind helm]

honestly as long as it is at most 50g, and decent 1000hz sensor, your hardware is not "limiting" you

especially with val and cs go type game

[wild hemlock]

mousepads are more important

[calm pulsar]

thats probably nice, but sora v2 is an upgrade for me already from viper v2 pro

[opal umbra]

ive never modded my mice

[kind helm]

i hit asc with my deskmat

[wild hemlock]

i love the lamzu atlantis mini

too much to ever switch

[opal umbra]

i peaked plat lol

[wild hemlock]

hope you get well soon 🙏

[opal umbra]

thanks i already got well though

[kind helm]

monkeytype > val

ez

EZ

[opal umbra]

i dont play val anymore

[calm pulsar]

whats your pb

[little glen]

I peaked iron in monkeytype

[wild hemlock]

i peaked unranked 😄

[kind helm]

120 something when i was on my mx board

dropped to like 90 something when i switched to he

now i think i am like 110 something

[wild hemlock]

damnn

thats fast asf

[calm pulsar]

mine 123 on HE with 0.1mm actuation

but its highest

usually just 100 lol

[wild hemlock]

how does your keyboard not spam the same key like 200 times

[calm pulsar]

on MX its probably way easier

[kind helm]

mx is easier i feel like because i can just graze the keys without misclick

[wild hemlock]

just disable rapidtrigger

[calm pulsar]

ig for that you can just set 2mm on HE

but im lazy

[kind helm]

but probably potentially he has higher celling

i am so lazy i just do 0.2 for all keys

sander do that thing where he manually tweak each key to be more reasonable

I AINT GOT TIME FOR THAT

[wild hemlock]

is it weird that i have an HE keyboard and i dont use rapidtrigger and put all keys on 1.4

[kind helm]

fair id say

[wild hemlock]

i only play games

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1285579075800272966.gif?size=96&quality=lossless

[kind helm]

i brought wooting more for it being the first he keyboard rather than "oh that tiny bit of travel is going to let me become a better player"

maximal copium lowkey

[calm pulsar]

tbh for me the HE tech sounded nice for tarkov lol

[wild hemlock]

HE made me better

for like 3 days

then i got used to it and got wors

e

[kind helm]

i think the feature that got banned was worth the cost

[calm pulsar]

I think its banned only in cs?