🔧│keyboard_modding

[stone flax]

It and the pt1/75 look neat

but i hate 75s so idrc

[fluid ravine]

lul

what does the cu mean

[stone flax]

copper

Its the thing making it not a neo board

big ass internal weight

$200 pricetag

[fluid ravine]

ah

[stone flax]

thats why theyre planning to make a traditional neo75 thats closeish to neo80 pricing down the load

cuz this is a switchup from what neo series boards are

[fluid ravine]

icic

[stone flax]

also i dont fw the tiny blocker and mount options

so if i had to choose a fucky 75

I take tkd’s over this

[whole obsidian]

best 60% case for wooting ? cause idk if i tofu redux is really the best case looking atm

(dont send the nipple one i beg)

[opal umbra]

What’s the nipple one

[fluid ravine]

KBDfans 461E

[fluid ravine]

But I want that one!

hehe

Nipple case+BooBs keycap

[stone flax]

preferenc

With a side of e

[tidal frigate]

Thats mooting case

[ionic breach]

the nipple case + boobs keycaps with a vertical strap-on (mooting)

[fluid ravine]

lmao

i need it for the memes

[uneven cradle]

Just get the new optimum case instead

[urban harbor]

Think the design of this board looks and sounds great from the one review i saw

[austere creek]

funny man telling people to order products that arent available

[fluid ravine]

Are you available?

[uneven cradle]

Someone's gotta sell these cases

Not that they need selling I bet it'll be like hotcakes

[austere creek]

hopper out here selling hope and copium

[calm pulsar]

imma just get the 60he pro

[fluid ravine]

[uneven cradle]

The what

[austere creek]

rouhan leaking things.... i mean the what

[uneven cradle]

I'm gonna get the 60he pro max

Can't wait

[tropic urchin]

@calm pulsar RAWs coming on Monday, flawed review coming up 👀

[fluid ravine]

Waiting for that moist knob

[austere creek]

also why do people jump onto everything a wooting employee says as if its 100percent a new product

[fluid ravine]

[austere creek]

like srs question

[uneven cradle]

Can blame calder he's set a precedence

[fluid ravine]

yall can answer that..

[calm pulsar]

well it was mentioned that a designer (that woman from the castle stream) is working on something for 60he pro

also releasing an updated 8khz 60% wooting feels like it would make sense marketing-wise

maybe some new cool case also?

[ionic breach]

its half and half

50% because its exciting so people talk about it and it gets lost somewhere that its not official

the other half is just jokes cos leaks are funny

[opal umbra]

would you guys consider the nk cream switches to be clacky

[whole obsidian]

idk i like the tofu one but maybe something exotic i dont want the same as everyone

[kind helm]

then why you ask everyone you just gotta play around take a look what people do, see what you like

[whole obsidian]

im asking if yall have any fav cases that i can also like!

[kind helm]

https://wooting-technologies.notion.site/de7a52e2b5a941258a17e448b0c9d9b0?v=5ec0b31c59db4a51b8a86a1288249e9f

i personally think stock wooting he60 is the goat

[whole obsidian]

thx

i think i'll stay with the tofu it's the only one with a meteorite grey color

[uneven cradle]

I dig my frog mini it's not a cheap option though and stock is limited

[whole obsidian]

i agree with you idk but for me their case is a lil bit ugly

[whole obsidian]

so true

hahahah for real better just get simple wooting

yeah i will buy the brass weight with the case

ii think if the case is that popular it's that the case is good

[kind helm]

isnt tofu like a old classic?

[fallen echo]

there are at least 3 different tofu iterations

I am ie running a tofu60 redux

Didnt go with the brass weight coz the board is already heavy enough with the aluminum case. instead I polyfilled the bottom cutout and I would argue it helped the acoustics

[kind helm]

did similar thing with cotton instead

[fallen echo]

"polyfilling" just means that you used some sort of sound dampening fabric to fill the cavity @jade star

I had some self-adhesive velvet fabric that I put in there.

[uneven cradle]

Tofu is a classic in the custom keyboard scene

[fluid ravine]

I cut a piece of wood in mine

[stone flax]

💀

no man

its deadass just using polyfill

[stone flax]

thats it right there

[fluid ravine]

dont mind the standoffs

[stone flax]

Yummy

[kind helm]

and i thought you were kidding

that looks FINE

[fluid ravine]

WYM LMAO

[stone flax]

froggy

[knotty iron]

60HE PCBA v2.4.1 + Poron Film Mods with WS v3.1 1.6mm Stabilizers

[stone flax]

help me decide

[fluid ravine]

sorry i got hungry and took a lil nibble

[kind helm]

not fine but like F I N E

[uneven cradle]

That poor case has been through it

[stone flax]

pls

[fluid ravine]

yeah....

[fluid ravine]

black wire pretty lit ngl

[knotty iron]

between what the layout or case color

[thorn zealot]

1st one

[fluid ravine]

what we looking at

[stone flax]

keycaps

[stone flax]

Keycaps

[fluid ravine]

what board/case?

[knotty iron]

oh

[stone flax]

frog

Mini

[knotty iron]

idk

[stone flax]

silva

[fluid ravine]

picture of silva froggy

[stone flax]

crp jipi or tulip

[fluid ravine]

ples

i like the milky white on the first one

but i need to see the silva on deh froggay

[whole obsidian]

so clean

[fluid ravine]

I think second one?

[stone flax]

needs new keycaps tho

[whole obsidian]

sadly doing a black/grey theme would've made the same

[fluid ravine]

yeah probably the second keycap set

i feel like the milky white is a bit off

[kind helm]

the two you show are so similar to the ones you have

[fluid ravine]

terms of tone even tho im a fan of it

[stone flax]

ik 😭

I have a type

[fluid ravine]

Am i your type?

[fallen echo]

polyfilling != using polyfill

[stone flax]

another set i own :p

i love beige 😭

[fluid ravine]

ah damn

[kind helm]

the set you have rn is better than the two you show i feel like, that return matches so nicely with the artisan cap

[stone flax]

we have reached the day when people say using polyfilll does not mean using polyfill

😭😭

[fluid ravine]

noooooooooooooooooooooo

[fallen echo]

no. we havent. "polyfilling" as a term existed before the material existed

[raw oriole]

How do these compare to the Swagkeys Knight V2 or TX AP long pole? https://kbdfans.com/products/adaptive-pcb-mount-stabilizers?variant=42708553367691

[fluid ravine]

yeah i agree they do look nice

anything wrong with the current ones you have mj? im wondering

[fallen echo]

curious, these wouldnt replace long poles, would they?

[raw oriole]

I'm honestly not sure. It says in the description it's compatible with both 1.2 and 1.6mm PCBs

[whole obsidian]

is it really important to lube the wooting stabilisers?

[kind helm]

the ones wooting come with are decent

[whole obsidian]

fr ? no need to lube them?

[kind helm]

heard that online and its my personal experience too, not perfect, but decent

yea

[whole obsidian]

same for gateron raw's he?

[stone flax]

that doesnt mean anything for travel discussion

[whole obsidian]

so no need to buy unnecessary lube?

[stone flax]

Thats pcb length

[fallen echo]

Preliminary tests on my end also suggest that there is no immediate need to lube the wooting stabs.

[kind helm]

personally yea

[whole obsidian]

W

[fluid ravine]

That means that when you use 1.2mm pcb's you need to use the shims for the stabilizers to fit onto the pcb. If you're using a 1.6mm pcb like wooting then you don't need the shims.

[raw oriole]

I was skeptical since it was the same number but seemed like a different measurement. Thanks for clarifying

[whole obsidian]

nice won;t buy lube then

[fallen echo]

I mean

lets be real

[kind helm]

ngl cant beat the ones i lube myself

[fallen echo]

you buy into the custom keeb market

you will end up with lube at one point or another

[whole obsidian]

ahahahha fr

[kind helm]

already doomed LMAO

[whole obsidian]

i'll buy it but do i reallyyyy need to do this at the start?

[fallen echo]

no. you dont

[whole obsidian]

im a bit scared of doing that don't wanna break something

[fallen echo]

but on the other hand there is nothing as satisfying as knowing you assembled this keeb in its best possible state

[fluid ravine]

"Long pole" stabilizers are made to bottom out evenly with reduced travel switches (or long pole switches). Only difference between normal and long pole stabilizers are the stems being longer in the LP versions.

[fallen echo]

it's artisan

[kind helm]

think the selling point is more about this

you can't even replace the stem cause the tech is in the stem

[fluid ravine]

Yup that and the wire clips on the housing, even though that was already a thing in some stabs but yeah selling point is indeed that

[kind helm]

if you want long pole probably just do spacer

stem spacer by geon

[fluid ravine]

Trying to sell stabs that dont need to be tune

[kind helm]

i think its recommended by some one

[stone flax]

yeah literally

[raw oriole]

Yea I'm looking to get stabilizers for Jade Maxes so I guess these won't work. Seems like my best option is swagkeys knight v2 then

[stone flax]

why buy new stabs

[fluid ravine]

If you already have stabilizers and is thinking on buying LP ver. best to save money and buy spacers

[stone flax]

just use sapcer

[stone flax]

jade maxes

😴

[fluid ravine]

If so make sure you get knight v2 LP

[stone flax]

raws better

[fluid ravine]

or yet again you your current stabs and get spacers

[stone flax]

theres literally a genuine problem with maxes

[fluid ravine]

RAWs 🔛 🔝

[raw oriole]

Raws are also 3.5 travel distance right?

[kind helm]

rawrrrr

[fluid ravine]

3.4mm-3.5mm

[raw oriole]

Gotcha

[stone flax]

3.55ish

iirc

[fluid ravine]

it's advertised as 3.4mm but idk i think someone said 3.5mm with their calipers or wtv

[stone flax]

also

Jade maxes so bad they literally get refunded

#rawsbetter

[fluid ravine]

sick

[raw oriole]

Yikes, I knew about the keycaps getting stuck issue (idc since I won't be taking my caps off) but are there other issues?

[fluid ravine]

atleast gateron did smth about it

[stone flax]

$1 a switch

and its genuinely worse than the ones that are sold by them for cheaper

atleast pros didnt have an obnoxious markup

but cmon

i dont get it

how can the goats who made the gat milky tops and gat x be the same cunts who just get tickled by geon to death

[raw oriole]

The clear housing for rgb and the deeper sound is what's appealing to me as someone new to building keyboards

[stone flax]

i hope you also like a shit feeling when u push the switch stem to the sides and a plasticky sound signature

[kind helm]

yeee after oil king the price was getting dumb

[raw oriole]

Raws it is lol

[pulsar patio]

tried them, didn't have a great time. without wire balancing they have really annoying ticking, very wobbly and unstable. i have tx ap 2023, miles better with tolerances and sound, but they have problems with fitting into wooting plates. i would go for knight v2's, but yet to try them myself

with knight's i've heard only good things)

like a safe option in general

and easier to deal with(tuning/lubing/fitting)

[raw oriole]

Gotcha, thank you for the info

[pulsar patio]

lubed designer studio adaptive stabs, stock unbalanced wire

i don't know how to describe it correctly, but they also make keys feel kinda soulless, like sounds worse, than even stock plate mount's, and kinda pointless with stock pcb-mount that comes with module

[raw oriole]

I'll go with the Knight V2

[pulsar patio]

good luck! would love to see your opinion on those

[late gazelle]

Hullo, does anyone know if the 80he case cad files will be uploaded to the GitHub? I know the 60he ones have, and used them to make my own case for that, but would like to do the 80he as well

[raw oriole]

Are the Geon Raws worth hand lubing? Definitely down to put in the time and effort to hand lube them but I'm wondering what other people's experience is

[fluid ravine]

You don't really need to lube the raws at all

I lubed them and honestly i prefer them stock as its stock sound is its signature sound if that makes sense

[thorn zealot]

I don’t think it’s worth the time

[fluid ravine]

the only thing i would lube would be the springs

[thorn zealot]

^ or get their ping less springs

[fluid ravine]

Even after breaking them in I think it would be just best to not waste your time and lube them

[fluid ravine]

yeah or that

but i mean either ways people are still gonna lube them anyways lol @thorn zealot

[thorn zealot]

I just got my raws today

[fluid ravine]

niceu niceu

[thorn zealot]

They wash the black jades

[fluid ravine]

another raw comrade

[fluid ravine]

fr

lowkey if i had the black jades i would spring swap

I lwky want dual staged springs

or longer springs of 60g

so bad for some reason

[thorn zealot]

This is now my complete board

[thorn zealot]

I got the 60g raws

And then 62.5g pingless springs

[fluid ravine]

oh yeah easily got washed

[fluid ravine]

same

i really like a responsive feel on the top out force

on longer/dual staged springs

[raw oriole]

Could you elaborate on the pingless springs? I'm not sure what that does

[fluid ravine]

i mean yeah the 60g springs itself stock is fine, nothing special just me and my happy 60g spring but sometimes we just want something "better" in a way

that suits us

[thorn zealot]

It just removes most if not all the ping u hear from the spring

Idk how but they work

[fluid ravine]

Spring ping is when the spring make weird noises on rebound

good quality springs tend to have less or no spring ping

[thorn zealot]

Oh btw I only have 2 standoffs installed in that alu plate

[fluid ravine]

dafuq

which ones

[thorn zealot]

The ones from kbd

To attach pcb to plate

[fluid ravine]

no like which standoffs are you using

[inner wren]

When ordering the module of the 60he+ does it have everything like the case foam and stuff it would have inside the normal 60he case?

[thorn zealot]

The far end ones on the sides

[fluid ravine]

on the top?

[thorn zealot]

Yes

[fluid ravine]

like next to tab and |\

[inner wren]

Thanks

[fluid ravine]

?

[thorn zealot]

Yeah

[fluid ravine]

ah

[thorn zealot]

I botched the other ones

[raw oriole]

This might be a dumb question, but to put a 60he+ module in a tofu60 redux do I need to buy any screws or anything like that?

[thorn zealot]

Don’t ask

[fluid ravine]

why is that?

[fluid ravine]

oh lmao

[fluid ravine]

nah

the case and module comes with their own screwss

[thorn zealot]

My alu plate has almost the same flex as my pc plate did

[fluid ravine]

you can use either one of the sets from either one

[raw oriole]

Do either of them come with o rings for burger mounting?

[fluid ravine]

with less standoffs?

[thorn zealot]

Yeah

[fluid ravine]

technically yes but no

speaking for the module

[fluid ravine]

makes sense

[thorn zealot]

Why are my raws so hard to take out

[raw oriole]

Also, I can't really tell if/how burger mounting effects the sound, is it supposed to effect sound? Or just effect the feel of the board?

[thorn zealot]

I’m finna break them I swear

[fluid ravine]

the clips on the switches are well brand new

so yeah it'd be extremely FUCKING hard to take out

it doesn't have that buckle design like the jades does

[fluid ravine]

It's suppose to be both

but i dont think i noticed that much of a difference when i burger mounted mines

but that was a million years ago so i dont remember

[raw oriole]

Generally is burger mounting going to create a deeper sound or the opposite?

[fluid ravine]

In terms of sound however, it should seperate the pcb from making contact with the tray mount points

making it less pingy

[fluid ravine]

i'd say cleaner?

[raw oriole]

Ok so more like a cleaner sound

Yea

I get what you mean

[fluid ravine]

Sorry I'm not a huge burger mount expert, I don't enjoy doing it

[raw oriole]

Yea it seems like a pain so I'm just tryna figure out if it's worth it for me, leaning no

[fluid ravine]

I'm on the gummy/friction mount side

[inner wren]

Theres a video about it on the wootings YouTube channel

You can check that out i did

The sound doesnt really change that much

[inner wren]

Whats that?

[fluid ravine]

Btw for burger mounting, a trick you should know is that you can adjust the sound by how much you're screwing in the screw with each mounting points

[fluid ravine]

It's like wrapping a huge gummy o'ring around the module between the plate and pcb and just insert it into the case with the method of friction fitting

[raw oriole]

Oh yea I've seen that

[inner wren]

Ohh

[fluid ravine]

This is used for Gummy O'ring mounted boards but you can convert a universal 60% tray mount board into a gummy mount board which is considered "Friction Mount" as it's not the same as gummy mount due the PCB cutouts

[fluid ravine]

would recommend fo sho

[inner wren]

The mod doesn't look that hard to do

[fluid ravine]

yeah it really isn't

it's benefical tbh

[stone flax]

give it time

these stabs need break in

[knotty iron]

Fully modded PCBA and Stabs

60HE+ Raw HE 50g

[fluid ravine]

what mod did you do on the pcb

[knotty iron]

WS v3.1 1.6mm, light coat of 205G0 on outer part of stab housing, EM-50L on Stab wire, and Poron Film on PCBA ONLY FOR STABS NOT FOR SWITCHES

[fluid ravine]

ah mk

so just stabs technically

[thorn zealot]

So what now

Just get bitched by some switches

[raw oriole]

Anyone know roughly how long it takes to receive a kbdfans tofu60 redux if you're in the US?

[thorn zealot]

atleast a week or 2

[inner wren]

What about Germany

[raw oriole]

Unfortunate but not too surprising

[thorn zealot]

unless u get it from somewhere else

[raw oriole]

Good thing I didn't pay for faster wooting shipping

[thorn zealot]

i dont think i live in germany

[inner wren]

Wow!

[pulsar patio]

first video right after assembly lubed and anbalanced, second video 10 days later. it was kinda quiet ticking, became really loud one

[stone flax]

get greasy

or balance

[stray tiger]

She is ready for keycaps. I'll have to think on it overnight

[uneven cradle]

Well you've got a few options on hand

[fluid ravine]

think about it in your sleep?

[fluid ravine]

"A few"

[stray tiger]

It'll come to me in my dreams

[fluid ravine]

and i'll be dreaming about it in my dreams

[uneven cradle]

I'm digging black snail at the moment

[fluid ravine]

a dream that will never happen

[fluid ravine]

i like those caps

[stray tiger]

I might just move 8008 over from the ghost case to the raw one and then build out the frost case with something like x-ray. But I think x-ray would also look good on raw

[uneven cradle]

I'll try out some evil dolch ones it arrives as well

[fluid ravine]

BOOBS!

[uneven cradle]

Reserved for the 461e case

[stray tiger]

It's decision fatigue lol

[fluid ravine]

o do you have a pic of the 8008 on the ghost?

[fluid ravine]

lmao

i dont think ive seen it

[stray tiger]

Gimme a min

Playing cs2 lol

[fluid ravine]

mk

[stray tiger]

That would probably go great in raw

[fluid ravine]

honestly yeah fs

that artisan slaps though

[stray tiger]

Both of them have the pink eyes to match

[gaunt plume]

cool😍

[fluid ravine]

Another set of RAW's we go

might as well have sets of raws in all your wooting boards

[stray tiger]

I've got them in 3-4 boards I think. I enjoy a mix is switches though. Hell I still use my stem swapped raptors when I want to be a bit more quite

[fluid ravine]

oh man 3-4 boards is wild

oh wait right you ordered more of them the other time

forgot

[stray tiger]

Yes sir. I think I have RAW's in 4 of the 8 HE boards

[fluid ravine]

[cedar gate]

Raws are awesome

[stray tiger]

New switch coming from gg that's louder than the raw's

[fluid ravine]

any info on this one?

[stray tiger]

similar switch, different materials, closed bottom

[thorn zealot]

are u serious right now

[tropic urchin]

That switch is going to arrive before my white zinc

[cedar gate]

I don't usually like super loud keyboards so I may lean toward v1 raws

[thorn zealot]

you know what its cool

i dont want my kb to be so loud my parents get pissed

[tiny summit]

Has anyone else had a terrible experience removing the geon raw switches?🤣

[glacial wind]

Use a proper metal switch puller

The plate for 80he is known to be extra tight so the plastic puller isn’t ideal

[quasi hinge]

May I ask why you have so many boards?

Just curious haha

[mystic gull]

What is the best switch for performance sound and everyhting?

[glacial wind]

performance and sound are different things

sound you kind of have to pick for yourself what you like

raw he are the popular default recommendation right now though due to smoothness, clean sound and very tight tolerances with low stem wobble

[quasi hinge]

performance go for Raws

then sound is subjective

[mystic gull]

like by performance i mean gaming

not like working i use another keyboard for that

[glacial wind]

you could check out ttc magneto rgb too if you want the absolute tightest stem, although the sound on them is very loud and more on the plastic side so be warned

also they're 3x the price of raw he

[mystic gull]

how does a tight stem make it better?

[quasi hinge]

I have the raws in my 60he+ and 80he

I tried the jade maxs and there was a qc issue or design flaw

[mystic gull]

which ones and are they silent?

[quasi hinge]

only for gaming

50fg Geon Raws

[glacial wind]

means it wobbles less and there's lower chance of accidental wobble press if you use super sensitive actuations

[mystic gull]

there are 20 different ones

will this take me out of silver?

[glacial wind]

realistically unless you're okay with the loud plastic sound and willing to pay $1.3 per switch for ttc magneto rgb then buy raw he and you'll be happy

i believe they're even on sale right now at divinikey: https://divinikey.com/products/geon-raw-he-linear-switches

or you can order via aliexpress if you're not na

[mystic gull]

okay do you recommend a thic or thin aluminum case?

[glacial wind]

preference

thicker = heavier

[mystic gull]

this one https://www.aliexpress.us/item/1005005180862278.html or this one https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32540926035.html

[glacial wind]

some like heavy, some don't - it's up to you

[mystic gull]

i have a aluminum ducky one and it feels okay

do you want the bottom out to be bigger or smaller?

like 40g or 60g which is better

[glacial wind]

preference again

60g is roughly simiilar to cherry mx switches in ducky etc

so pick based on that info

[mystic gull]

its kinda hard to have a preference if you dont try them in person lol

[supple abyss]

Is the pre Build 60he+ also fast switch that I Can mod the pre Build Version?

[quasi hinge]

I have the 50g and they were perfect for me

depends if you have heavy fingers

[pliant kernel]

Does anyone makes a cast iron keyboard case for 60HE ?

[mystic gull]

yeah i think i will try the 50g ones just to try something new

[quasi hinge]

I found the lekker 60g too strong and the 45g to be too light

I came from geon raptors which had 52g or so

they were great

and somehow the raw 50g are even better

[mystic gull]

okay should i replace the keycaps?

[quasi hinge]

I use the original keycaps because I play in a dark room with oled and need the light (backlit)

If it wasnt for glossy oleds need for darkness, I would use whatever I felt like

[quasi hinge]

they work well with the raws, I have no complaints

[quasi hinge]

just fyi, all mine geon 50g raws were hand lubed

[mystic gull]

can i get the GEON Raw HE Switch pre lubed as i do not know how to lube it

[ionic breach]

yup

[mystic gull]

so i need 70 of these for the 60%

[quasi hinge]

if you want the 50s, there might be other sellers where you live or online

[quasi hinge]

you could find people on FB or whatever local digital ad service is in your country, there is likely a person doing it

[ionic breach]

all geons raws are prelubed

[quasi hinge]

haha

Mine were still hand lubed after

factory is good also

He is right, I just was OC

[mystic gull]

i wish i just order it with the prebuild dam it

[quasi hinge]

also if you use the raws, maybe recommend to change the stabs to 1.6 long pole

@ionic breach yes?

[ionic breach]

u dont have too

only if u have cheap keycaps

usually decent keycaps wouldnt face an issue

[tiny summit]

its for the 60 he pp plate, but thank you for the tip! 🙂 I'll order a better one! 🙂

[knotty iron]

Geonworks Raw HE 50g switches on Wooting 80HE Zinc Alloy and Wooting 60HE+ Alumaze. PEAK. MARBLY.

My fingers hurt from removing the Jade Maxes 😭

[quasi hinge]

we have the same setup lol

I just used tx stabs in both

[fallen echo]

Geon RAW come prelubed.

I have a relatively recent batch and opened up a couple to check. the lubing was fine, no point in worrying about that

[jade prairie]

i checked out the factory lubing on some hmx sunset gleams i got for my upcoming keyboard build and the switch started pinging after i opened it good thing i got spares

has anyone done gummy oring mount with a tofu60 redux? Any complications?

im thinking of drilling off the middle post and doing that if possible

[untold wigeon]

what does stiffer typing experience mean

i have to pick between carbon fiber and FR4

for the plate

[jade star]

Are stabs easy to swap out once a keeb has already been built?

[ruby hill]

If plate mount yes

[lunar sand]

Finally by RAWs arrived 🙂 jeez 😄 i went with the 60g though 🙂 just need to wait for my module to arrive in ... January 😄 meanwhile i will use it on the 60HE 😄

[fallen echo]

there is a certain amount of flexibility in both the PCB and the mounting boards (and their respective retention mechanisms) that add to a level of flexibility when excerting pressure on the switches while typing. for the regular user, this factor is more or less irrelevant on something like a HE board because the switches are all linear and rather light, so you are not excerting too much pressure while typing.

[fallen echo]

60g is still very similar to MX reds and I would claim that for most people these count as rather light switches.

[lunar sand]

Yeah the reasoning for me was that

i already have the jades that are pretty light, and i feel that on my use case, i need something a little heavier because i'm a "hard typer" 😄 light switches + low actuation is too sensitive

so i'm trying the 60g to understand if it makes a difference overall or not

[fallen echo]

I get you. Ran jades before the raws on this board and the difference is noticable in favour of the 50g raws. less typing error and the higher bottoming out force makes them actually "less harsh" because I dont bottom out immediately

[lunar sand]

yeah that's cool to know

i didn't have the 50g option... so i went with the 60

[fallen echo]

60gs being close to reds should make it even more controllable

[lunar sand]

( i mean, the option was there, but i ordered 90 switches and they only had like 40 or something )

[untold wigeon]

what about rhythm games where one clicks hard

[fallen echo]

I really dont think thats a bad choice. I went with the 50g for a "middle of the road" experience but compared to reds the difference is so minimal, it results in just that tiny bit "smoothness" when typing.

[fallen echo]

as a gamer, you dont want any flex. you want a consistent actuation curve.

[untold wigeon]

oke

[fallen echo]

too much flex can make mashed buttons feel mushy, because the bottoming out experience is not consistant

[untold wigeon]

icic

oke

[fallen echo]

its nice for typing with "harder" switches because the bottoming out isnt as harsh.

[untold wigeon]

another qn

do i buy 40 or 50g raws

[fallen echo]

what switches have you used before?

[untold wigeon]

im not sure

[lunar sand]

btw:
https://x.com/gateronofficial/status/1846850561838403796?s=61&t=9wgQxZPlP57xmtrUFQFa3w

GATERON (@GATERONOfficial) on X

🎉The Magetic Jade Family welcomes a new member—Magnetic Jade Gaming Switch, with wall stem structure. Ultimate stability and a solid feel, it is born for esports!

• Typing: Linear
• Initial Force: 36gf
• Total Travel: 3.5±0.1mm
• Pre Travel: Freely setting
• Pre-Lubed: Yes

Twitter · Oct 17, 2024, 9:47 AM

[untold wigeon]

i play osu and valorant

[fallen echo]

anecdotal: I came from mx reds which are similar to 60gs and used jade pros first, which are closer to 40g. they felt very sensitive and I mistyped a lot. then I switched to these 50g RAWs and they work way better for me, both in typing and gaming

[untold wigeon]

i see

[fallen echo]

I think the biggest difference to whatever switches you used before will be the reduced travel time.

its only like half a mm on paper

but its noticable.

[lunar sand]

yeah, i came from TTC Speed Silvers v2s ... but since the actuation distance is higher than HE ... i didn't notice as much sensitivity as the HE, as expected.

[untold wigeon]

oke

[fallen echo]

and for your general experience with a HE board I recommend to not set the actuation point too high. start with 2mm and then work your way up until you feel comfortable not mistyping

with very light and short switches that have an actuation point at like .2mm, you will mistype a lot. and for games like osu where keypress accuracy matters that sounds like a bad thing

so in short, if you have the chance to get 50g GEON RAW, go for these.

[muted nacelle]

Hi, has anyone tried using SLK Dessau keycaps on their 60he ? https://www.slkdessau.com/ They have a slightly recessed stem. They are uniform and almost the only set I have found that feature proper mac os keyboard legends (the number row is wrong on almost all mac keycap sets).

[pliant kernel]

Huh, interesting info because I am on 60HE and I came from mx reds of Filco. So, I wasn't sure which springs to get along new kb case and keycaps.

[untold wigeon]

oke

[fallen echo]

As I said before, I would claim the 60g are very close to mx reds so if you are good with these you would be better served with them over 40g which really feel sensitive in comparison. That is why I recommend the 50g as middle of the road

[pliant kernel]

Ah, I see. I have heavy fingers, so I gonna try with L100 springs to check if I could get less mistyping.

[fallen echo]

fair

[glacial wind]

sound is not that great on those

very high and plasticky

[formal ferry]

do you guys have a non-he keyboard for typing/sound

[crimson sky]

many, my office board for example

[formal ferry]

i tried to use my wooting for daily typing but the experience is so much worse than a normal mid range mechanical keyboard

is there any mod to help with that or should i just stick to 1 performance keyboard + 1 typing daily keyboard

[crimson sky]

eh, I would still say it fares quite well overall but

it's quite high up on the "prebuilt/gaming" list for me

[glacial wind]

better switches if you're not using them already. Besides that not a whole lot more to change for typing experience really

[vocal rose]

Swapping the Plate and Case and adding foam might help. still up to your preference

+keycaps*

[glacial wind]

throw some raw he into them if you're still using lekker v2

[crimson sky]

HE switches still all kinda sound off to me

[formal ferry]

i have a few gateron jade to sound test but cant say its much better tbh

[crimson sky]

still easily claps all the slop that other manufacturers pump out

[crimson sky]

what board are you even using atm and what have you done with it so far

[glacial wind]

raw he is a step up from gateron jade if you're talking custom mech level switch

it's still not fully on par with non HE but it's getting closer

[pliant kernel]

I hear good stuff about raw HE, so lemme bookmark these items for upcoming shopping spree

[formal ferry]

60he but i havent done much modding other than lubing/keycap swap

[vocal rose]

My friend bought this and saying the same thing to me. I might grab some soon too

[formal ferry]

imma get a few to do a sound test first but for now im prolly just gonna stick to my daily keyboard

[glacial wind]

if you're looking for 'thock' then stick to daily keyboard

it doesn't exist in HE yet

[formal ferry]

fair enough. it doesnt matter much anyways since i cant hear shiet when im gaming

wooting is for gaming and its still the best at it tbh

[pliant kernel]

Ultimate thock : IBM Model M

Or it was clack ?

[fallen echo]

I would claim that the sound profile is for collector's purposes anyways. if I really care for a daily driver for work, I'd go for a programmable split, like a voyager

[formal ferry]

am i the only one who cant really differentiate between these thock clack and creamy

[fallen echo]

its luxury and absolutely adds to the experience

but it isnt the deciding factor

[formal ferry]

i just do a sound test and choose whatever i like the best

[pliant kernel]

lol, I never cared about my keyboard sound while gaming

[glacial wind]

probably haven't seen really good thock vs clack switches

[pliant kernel]

Only the feeling at my fingertips matters

[glacial wind]

you'll be able to tell 100% if you compare two actual thock and clack switches

the thing is everyone in gaming randomly says 'thock' for everything and it can confuse new folks because then thock starts to mean literally everything that isn't clack

[pliant kernel]

I should really really get better keycaps so I can visually locate my hands at correct parts of my keyboard without looking it down

[fallen echo]

blanks is the way to go 😂

[pliant kernel]

Funny, I have a bag of blanks DSA :P

[formal ferry]

i think that just comes with time. getting new keycaps will only confuse ur muscle memory

[fallen echo]

I hate you. finding a set of ISO dsa blanks has been a PITA for me

[glacial wind]

For example look at this video @formal ferry https://youtu.be/_N8k0u75eLQ?si=ETz7SkOJa38ONdL4&t=524

then compare to 11:37 into the video

very large sound difference there

[pliant kernel]

Yeah but I want at least make my desk more fun to work at with anything that have colors keycaps while being rgb compatible ( hopefully... )

[formal ferry]

maybe one with sideprint character?

you can get both led and an artwork on ur keycaps

[crimson sky]

man I hate that video so much

[formal ferry]

i guess i can differentiate them in this video but ive heard two completely different keyboard sounds with the same "thocky"/"creamy" description

[glacial wind]

That’s cause people label everything as thock like I said

It’s overused because it’s the first thing every person tries to do with their first custom keyboard

[jade storm]

meeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

[fleet oracle]

Not really a modding question but is it possible to for example set fn + u to the german ü on an ansi us keyboard?

[left depot]

u can just press alt + y :)

[glossy pagoda]

You can use DKS to access Windows Alt Keycodes on an fn layer for example, just hold alt + fn1 + press U and it'll print ü

[jade star]

anyone got a good geon raw how 2 lube video

[stone flax]

its a switch bro

a very traditional he one

with niceish prelube

Consider bag lubing springs or going over sliders

initially

[calm pulsar]

they are lubed well from factory, just bag lube the springs

[jade star]

might try hand lubing 1 just to see if i prefer it in that case

thanks for advice modders!

[raw oriole]

Of course they announce a new jade gaming switch immediately after I order my switches

[vague stag]

preference again 🙂 I tried three different lube jobs and compared those to stock on the board

went with just lubing the stem, didnt do the springs - found it sounded much better in terms what I was looking for

[raw oriole]

Can you modify a kbdfans order before it has shipped? Or even cancel it? I can't find either option online

[stone flax]

its bad

[raw oriole]

In what ways?

I'm not doubting you I just wanna know more

[stone flax]

same way as koms, plasticky af for marginal wobble gain

regression in sound lol

[raw oriole]

Interesting

I would've thought it would have much better wobble but I guess not

[fleet oracle]

Will try that! Thank you

[buoyant veldt]

Are the stock stabilizers good on the 80he or is it worth replacing them?

[ionic breach]

ya

if ur having issue with it just lube them

no need for replacement

[calm pulsar]

it's just gonna be jade pros with boxed stems, which might even make them wobblier

oh you discussed that already, didnt read lol

@stone flax @untold wigeon 👀

[raw oriole]

Its all good I appreciate the info

[prime orbit]

raw he still the goats

?

[pulsar patio]

guys, did anyone try to make stem spacers on 3d printer?

[random loom]

If it works keep them I personally wouldn’t switch

[untold wigeon]

https://tenor.com/view/family-guy-crystal-meth-peter-griffin-gif-4045726997459609399

[calm pulsar]

f2-60 is a nice looking case

[kind helm]

i used he for so long i forgot how god damn good my mx keeb sounds, holy that is N I C E

[untold wigeon]

Best looking one I think

[calm pulsar]

yeah I might grab it for my venom60he
keep in mind it has a centered usb port, so if you want f2-60, you might do an MX build or get a venom to build in it

[untold wigeon]

Or I make my 60he work with some fancy wiring

[agile grove]

theoretically if you know how to solder you can move the usb port on the 60he

[calm pulsar]

for sure, that would be awesome

[stray tiger]

Morning gents. Anything good leaked on the live stream today?

[calm pulsar]

would love to know as well👀

[glossy pagoda]

Nothing new that wasn't covered in the backstage meeting

[stray tiger]

Thanks, watching it now.

[kind helm]

whats that silicone thingy for friction fit in the recent stream 0.0!

[stray tiger]

Similar to an o-ring but includes the PCB dampening

[glossy pagoda]

Easier to use/install too

[kind helm]

probably more even since gummy oring has some parts that stick out an extra amount due to the standoff for screws

[fluid ravine]

Is it the wooting friction mount thingy?

The friction mount pad?

[stray tiger]

Yes

[fluid ravine]

I'm still thinking about snipping the middle part of the pad like the nipple case

For both 80he and the friction pad

Has Sanders tried doing it yet?

[urban harbor]

This was my choice and i totally agree with you

Sorry i mean, my choice was two keyboards

[haughty torrent]

What do you recommend doing to a wooting two he?

[stone flax]

….what

[formal ferry]

i assume he wants mods recommendation

[knotty iron]

Raw HE switches

[haughty torrent]

Yeah hhaha

[jade prairie]

smartest man in the world

you need to put foam and tape @stone flax

[haughty torrent]

Any improvement other than losing 0.5mm of performance? Apart from the sound, which I don't care about.

[jade prairie]

I need a fucking o ring

[glacial wind]

Much improved stem wobble

[jade prairie]

dont dell gamers to get better switches

[haughty torrent]

And is it something that affects for typing or is it something of personal preference? Sorry for the questions I have never modded a mechanical keyboard haha

[glacial wind]

It’s more of a feel thing

Like when typing or gaming I can feel the stem wobble on raw he vs a looser switch and it doesn’t feel nice

Technically tighter stem also means less accidental releases if you use 0.15 rt and such at bottom out too, but the gain from that is fairly minor once you get into the better switches

[haughty torrent]

Oh interesting, maybe I will try them they are cheap on AliExpress, 110 for 50

Thanks for the clarification

[glacial wind]

Yeah raw he are quite cheap

[knotty iron]

im here to tell people what I think is better based on my experience, Raw HE is pretty much peak HE

[knotty iron]

The acoustics are very nice too they sound quite marbly for an HE switch

[glacial wind]

They said on livestream too that we’re getting closer to having them in wooting store ‘sooner rather than later’

[bold dragon]

TTC king of magnetics or Geon RAWs?

Need advice

[glacial wind]

Very different switches

One is box stem and higher pitch and more sound and other is regular stem, more clacky sound

[bold dragon]

Thanks! Any thoughts on stem wobble? Assuming the TTC will have considerably less.

[glacial wind]

Geon raw he are usually what we tend to recommend because they’re already fairly tight stem, smoother due to not being box stem and tend to have a sound profile that more people like (while being a lot cheaper)

[glacial wind]

Only at the bottom out

[bold dragon]

Ok cool, I’ll go with the raws

Thank you sir

[glacial wind]

stem wobble is a tricky thing because people forget that there’s top stem wobble and bottom stem wobble

A lot of the measurers check the bottom but forget that the top chatter is also a thing and it’s not measured

For sample I tested the peony he from swagkeys which have roughly equal bottom stem wobble to the ttc magneto (aka very little) and they felt way worse because the wobble at the top was more than raw he and the box stem wasn’t as smooth as raw he

[bold dragon]

Very very glad I asked

Boutta get 90 HE raws for $35

@glacial wind thanks!!

[stone flax]

pole bottom out

and reduced travel

even if their wobble was exactly the same theyre two completely different switches in principle

[plush fractal]

I just ordered my first keyboard module

Anyone able to help me put it together when it gets here?

[marsh saffron]

Welp I'm not ordering raw HE

At least not from geons site

[stone flax]

UK

EU

AU

?

[marsh saffron]

Canada

I don't think deskhero has them

[jade narwhal]

thats very easy.
believe me

u can look for help at any time here

[random hull]

can look at aliexpress perhaps?

got mine from there

[sacred comet]

aliexpress should be better

worked for me

[marsh saffron]

Link for Ali?

I can't find them it's just a bunch of random shit

[fallen echo]

check aliexpress or kbdfans

divinikeys has no 50g rn if you are looking for those

[jade ledge]

https://a.aliexpress.com/_mMzIoxK

[iron bear]

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005007711166883.html Why are those more expensive?

Ah 10 pack

[plush fractal]

anyone know where i can get normal or red moa keycaps the only ones i can find are like cute style

[stone flax]

moa is a cutesy style

[plush fractal]

yeah ik but the style is just really satisying to me and I wish I could find some nice maroon ones that are plain

Ive searched everywhere I could think of

[haughty torrent]

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[plush fractal]

yeah sorry i didnt know if you guys had like some good websites or anything for keycaps im new to custom keyboard stuff

[stone flax]

https://www.alexotos.com/keyboard-vendor-list/

[plush fractal]

mostly just ebay aliexpress and amazon stuff

[sage shell]

yo can u not access your other fn layer in the regular mode anyore?

[plush fractal]

but this definitely helps thank you

[sage shell]

im trying to move my game to another screen with shift windows and arrow key but its not working (just realized wrong chat)

[hearty marsh]

still dunno if i should buy the TTC king of magnetic switch, jade or geon raw

[calm pulsar]

ttc is overpriced and sounds bad

raws are probably cheaper to get for most ppl and are a better switch according to most here

[old swallow]

GEON Raw the goat

we believe in Raw supremacy

[hearty marsh]

did you guys watch this vid? https://www.youtube.com/shorts/L5HpiH5jabE

[old swallow]

Raws are the cheapest option. (for most people). and arguably the best in terms of sound and feel

[chilly mural]

also very widely available, so shipping price gonna be cheaper.

[calm pulsar]

wdym jade and lekker don't have much difference? they are totally different sounding lol

lekkers are an open bottom switch, jades are closed bottom

raptors are not boxed stem though

if it is a black switch with a boxed stem could be black knights

[stone flax]

? almost everything u just said is wrong

that is amazing

[mossy river]

kp republic sells these 25 dollar 90 pack deng god latenpow switches

have zero clue if theyre even compatavle

[calm pulsar]

they are pretty much closed bottom black knights

probably not that good on wobble

[stone flax]

recolor of graingold sticky rice

[prime orbit]

raptors are the best switch fr fr

they are red

red means more fps

keyboard gives more fps

w

[fallen echo]

https://tenor.com/view/game-of-thrones-go-t-dothraki-itisknown-khaleesi-gif-5465236

[harsh dove]

They are but they’re not very good switches, factory lube is very light as well, pretty scratchy

Current popular switches for HE are Gateron Jade Series, Geon Raw HE, or Wooting Lekker V2’s and maybe a couple others

[untold wigeon]

WS Dash

Foolishness. It’s not a giveaway, it’s a contest.

i ended up buying the RAW HE 60g. hopefully they feel nice.

If not then I am getting the Jade HE

I own both. The Raw are way better

Night and day difference

Bet. I made the right choice then lol

Indeed you did

[sweet oak]

Hows the LED window on them?

[whole obsidian]

do i neeed anythiing else ?

or i can order

[stone flax]

dont get those orings

[whole obsidian]

why?

[stone flax]

what are u planning with those o-rings

[whole obsidian]

burger mount i guess but im not sure to do it

[stone flax]

then yeh

dont get those orings

wrong size

[whole obsidian]

oh okay

[stone flax]

not sure what those tweezers are for

[fallen echo]

also

[whole obsidian]

burger mount is really important for the sound tbbh?

[fallen echo]

you buy lube tools

but no lube

have you lube at home?

[stone flax]

?

are we just saying this or…

[fallen echo]

no. its not.

[whole obsidian]

i think i won't buuy the tools i don't wanna lube someone said that the stabilisers and the gateron raw's are already well lube

[whole obsidian]

?

[stone flax]

,?????

[whole obsidian]

so i won't do it

[stone flax]

So we bought tools

But no lube

?

[whole obsidian]

i didnt bought

but do i really have to lube wooting stabiliserrs ?

and gateron raw?

[fallen echo]

you are buying geon RAWs which have a short travel. I dont see any long pole stabilizers to compensate.

[stone flax]

literally in the cart

u cant say ur not buying lube tools

[whole obsidian]

I know

[stone flax]

and send a pic with them in cart

😭

[whole obsidian]

im saying i won't buuy them

[stone flax]

…why not?

[fallen echo]

you DO want long pole stabilizers with Geon RAWs. the wooting stabs are not long pole

[whole obsidian]

lol im asking if it's really that important to lube

[whole obsidian]

where can i find those?

[fallen echo]

look for tx ap long pole or swagkeys knight long pole

those are the recommended ones

[stone flax]

just buy this https://divinikey.com/products/geon-stem-spacer?
No need to buy a whole new set of stabs

Literally $2.50

[whole obsidian]

how does it works?

[stone flax]

u put em on the stab stem

[fallen echo]

It reduces the travel by artifically inducing a stopper

[stone flax]

and they kinda work like o-rings and stops travel earlier

[whole obsidian]

sorry english iss not my first language i don't really understand what's a stab stem

[stone flax]

u put em there

[whole obsidian]

so on the stabilisers?

[stone flax]

….

yes

[fallen echo]

this works but I heavily recommend screw in stabilizers if your board allows it. as you are looking to buy this stuff rn I heavily suspect you are looking at a 60he+ or 80he

[whole obsidian]

yeah 60he+

[fallen echo]

so mj is right the cheapest option is using the spacers they linked

[whole obsidian]

i have 30$ shipping on divinikey

so is it reallyyyy that important lol?

[stone flax]

module comes with gat screwins alr so easiest thing would just be spacers

[stone flax]

is what important

just the spacers?

[whole obsidian]

yes

[fallen echo]

but regardless of that, if money isnt an issue, I heavily recommend looking for screw in stabilizers like tx ap long pole 1.6

yeah. you DO want to take care of the discrepancy in travel between the switches and the stabs

[stone flax]

feasibly if ur keycaps have good tolerances they wouldnt be as prone to seesawing but thats literally a mixed bag experience wise

look for spacers or stabs in ur regions vendors

also hahahahahha at $3 for a piece of tape

[whole obsidian]

i can't find any ngl

i think i'll pass on thiis

[fallen echo]

dont stress

if you wanna run geon raws, you want to also have long pole stabs or reduce the travel of your existing stabs

[calm pulsar]

tape mod is trash on HE anyways

[fallen echo]

the spacers mj linked are the least work effort

[calm pulsar]

jk but I didnt like it

@stone flax do you like tape mod on HE and in general?

[stone flax]

no and no

[whole obsidian]

this?

[fallen echo]

oui

[stone flax]

those are clipins

[fallen echo]

those work fine. if you can find the same as "screw in" even better

[whole obsidian]

there is also this

[calm pulsar]

honestly I love the clip-in pcb mount stabs

[stone flax]

knights v2 long pole

king

[fallen echo]

these are which I have. they work with geon raw.

no ping, no wobble.

[whole obsidian]

how do u install those?'

[fallen echo]

you strip down your module to the PCB

and then you hook them with the plastic nook into the bigger hole and screw them in on the smaller hole

on the PCB there are + symbols next to the holes where stabilizers are meant to go

[calm pulsar]

there are videos on all of that, much easier to watch them

[whole obsidian]

is their a youtube tutorial for it??

i can't find any with wooting or stuff

[fallen echo]

there are several!

[whole obsidian]

that looks really hard to do ngl..

[fallen echo]

noooh

seriously

[stone flax]

[fallen echo]

as you are french

you are looking at an iso module right?

[stone flax]

on god just raw it with the stock stabs

[whole obsidian]

ansi...

[stone flax]

and buy shit if it doesnt work

easy

some people can get away without long pole stabs

[whole obsidian]

hahaha that's what i wanted to do

if it'ss ban

bad

[stone flax]

or just dont care enough

[whole obsidian]

i'll just order ngl

[kind helm]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=usNx1_d0HbQ&t=236s

[fallen echo]

even easier

look, if you have the chuzpe to screw in a couple of screws into a pcb, installing these stabilizers is a piece of cake

[stone flax]

i dont get people sometimes

willing to plaster tape on a board for no apparent reason, not willing to screw in stabs for tuning?

[fallen echo]

tape is just tape.

screws could screw things up

I get it

[whole obsidian]

it's not that it's just that i don't understand how to install stabiliisers lol

[stone flax]

ten trillion guides

on bing.com

[fallen echo]

it really isnt complicated, dont worry! once you have the wooting module in hand you can see how the stabilizers are positioned and orientated

and you just mimic that with new and better stabilizers

[whole obsidian]

okk i'll do it then

do y'all have a kbdfans link maybe?

[stone flax]

skibidifans

[whole obsidian]

im order everything from them so i won't have to pay the shipping

[fallen echo]

All I can say is that I ordered loads of stuff from them and I was never let down.

[whole obsidian]

https://kbdfans.com/products/adaptive-pcb-mount-stabilizers?variant=42708553334923

is that good?

[fallen echo]

cant tell you. never tried these

[stone flax]

yes

my goat designer studios

[whole obsidian]

long pole or idk what

?

watched a video looks easy ngl

but do i need to lube them ?

[stone flax]

like 99% of stabs that come dry

yeah

[kind helm]

in the thumbnail

[stone flax]

but theyre disgustingly easy

[kind helm]

[fallen echo]

you just smear them in stab grease and fidget them in like a virgin couple

[kind helm]

difficult goes up if wire quality is doo doo

[stone flax]

wire quality doesnt matter as much when inner housing compensates for that

[whole obsidian]

can y'all send me a link for good stabilisers for gateron raw's on kbdfans or if they arent on any site pleasseee

would really help me ngl

[stone flax]

good stabs are good stabs

[whole obsidian]

im already paying 430 euros forr the keyboard

[stone flax]

????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

430 euros

[stone flax]

for a tofu

[whole obsidian]

yeah

[kind helm]

[stone flax]

give me an itemized list

right now

[kind helm]

where you buying from

[stone flax]

how

[whole obsidian]

idk..

you want me to write everything?

[stone flax]

yes

[whole obsidian]

i send all links thanks alot

[stone flax]

cause what is making a tofu60he

430 euros

[calm pulsar]

lmao how much???

[kind helm]

can i sell mine to you for 400 euros?

fully modded

[whole obsidian]

https://www.keykobo.com/products/in-stockkey-kobo
https://kbdfans.com/products/tofu60-redux-case?variant=41734373572747
https://kbdfans.com/products/tofu60-redux-accessories?variant=41491565969547
https://kbdfans.com/products/geon-raw-he-magnetic-switch?variant=42758834847883 X 7
https://wooting.io/wooting-60he-module/about
https://kbdfans.com/products/60-layout-tape-mod-customization?variant=40882294980747
https://kbdfans.com/products/kbdfans-lube-tools-collection?variant=34427340718219
https://kbdfans.com/products/kbdfans-anti-static-esd-11-tweezers?variant=39479046111371

im living in france so i have like 50$ shipping + a lot of taxes

[calm pulsar]

💀

[stone flax]

oh wow

he really sent everything

[whole obsidian]

ahahahha yeah

how much are yall paying for a custom keyboard?

[calm pulsar]

well with keykobo seems like it is quite right, including the fact that he's from france

[kind helm]

you asking the wrong people

[fallen echo]

500 to 600 is alright with everything

[stone flax]

so 90 dollars for caps, 35 dollars for switches, 140 dollars for module, 60 dollars for case

...

am i missing something

[kind helm]

shipping and tax

[stone flax]

115 dollars in shipping and taxes

[whole obsidian]

holy shit

[kind helm]

idk maybe bro in eu shipping is crazy

[whole obsidian]

that's so much

[fallen echo]

shipping, tax and acquisitions that you retain beyond your first purchase like tools and lube

[calm pulsar]

cheapest taxes in EU💀

[whole obsidian]

i found some europe sites..

[stone flax]

gg bro's paying eu premium

[fallen echo]

we literally subsidizing your hobby

[calm pulsar]

maybe get a stock 60he for a start xd

[kind helm]

hell nah

[whole obsidian]

yeah maybe.. but i really wanna mod it..

[kind helm]

stock 60he maybe the worst sounding keyboard i have ever owned and that includes the free keyboard i got when i brought my first pc

HELL NAH

[calm pulsar]

try getting kbdfans stuff from aliexpress? or did you say that was more expensive for you?

cause kbdfans have an official store on ali

[whole obsidian]

it's the same tbh

[calm pulsar]

ah rip

[kind helm]

i got the stock 60 cause i didnt know 60 module is a thing, holy it was so bad i didn't even want to touch it before i mod it

[calm pulsar]

I have the og 60he in the drawer and a pack of lekker v1s lul, I get them out sometimes just to realize how wobbly they are

[whole obsidian]

do y'all have any links to get it cheaper please cause 430e is ridiculous

[fallen echo]

I got the stock60 too and that in itself was what prompted me into modding a HE board xD

[stone flax]

100 yuan resin60

[kind helm]

plus i would argue that the case and stock keycaps and the ___ lekker switch dont worth 40 extra dollars. i think you maybe can buy keycaps from kbdfan to save a second portion of shipping

[calm pulsar]

I remember wishing for a closed bottom switch before the first gateron jades came out lol

[whole obsidian]

what is thiis?

[stone flax]

resin60 from taobao

only 100 yuans

[whole obsidian]

do you have a link please?

[stone flax]

my precious resin60

he is sleeping

dont wake him up

🤫

[whole obsidian]

ahhh i don't like this case too muuch ngl

[calm pulsar]

he probably sounds like waking everyone in the house up

[stone flax]

http://e.tb.cn/h.gFL2BtuHFXWYSej?tk=sbij3PuISvF

[sweet oak]

https://tenor.com/view/chopsuey-wake-up-systemof-the-down-gif-4853831

[kind helm]

wait thats not ali thats the cn taobao

dont you need to know some guy to like get lower shipping by doing some sort of group buy

[stone flax]

proxy services?

with agents

is that what u mean

[kind helm]

yea something like that

[whole obsidian]

if y'all can find me all the links on taobao and stuff i can buy i have an agent

[stone flax]

oh nice

[kind helm]

cause i know what people do is like have a whole group of orders set to one then one big ass shipments price gets even out to everyone

[whole obsidian]

my agent can't find the case lol

do y'all have keycaps thats looking like the ones i want but reallyyyy cheaper?

https://www.keykobo.com/products/in-stockkey-kobo

[kind helm]

amazon knock off

[stone flax]

http://e.tb.cn/h.gva4SjtHqFXwjLG?tk=phbC3PurQrl Geon Raw HEs

Case options
http://e.tb.cn/h.gFL2BtuHFXWYSej?tk=sbij3PuISvF Holy60 Resin

http://e.tb.cn/h.gFQISTAZ8LGTd22?tk=ULTU3PuIsEB YM60 Aluminium Case

http://e.tb.cn/h.gva5ddVl00Kp6oV?tk=wg9Q3PuHNrA Stab grease

https://shop62262725.taobao.com/? shenpo/dyesubs

[kind helm]

i am 69% sure you can find one there

[stone flax]

ur not finding good knockoffs of exactly this

maybe something close

but not quite

[kind helm]

😭 fck i need to go to china sometime, the price are so good

the caps are like 30 to 40 usd

[whole obsidian]

fuck i'll just pay a lot for nothing

so do i really need new stabilisers or i can keep the wooting module onees?

[kind helm]

no

https://www.alexotos.com/keyboard-vendor-list/

check this out maybe you can find the vendors

oh wait is it the link mj sent as well

🤡 mb

[chilly mural]

only geonworks that I know of that has tx ap long pole. Hmmm