🔧│keyboard_modding

[tropic urchin]

Yeah mine def didn’t have that stock, that’s rather strange

[sonic condor]

💀

[calm pulsar]

“I bow to your will” Bigsly to black stabs

[tropic urchin]

It does 100%, the only way I could think of that it happens stock is they really fucked up your factory lube job, but I can only replicate it if I go overboard on my hand lubing process

[polar girder]

lol bro I had to pause and think about it cuz I have the clear ones. But I said I just have to do it

There is no other way

[tropic urchin]

That Korean shipping rate is rough

[stray tiger]

What's done is done

You picked a nice first set. It'll be a while before it gets here though.

[tropic urchin]

That’s gonna be me when I get one of those gemstone artisan keys 🤣

[stray tiger]

From keycap quarry?

[tropic urchin]

Ye

Mildly worried it’ll be too big for the escape key, but I figure I’ll shoot em an email

[calm pulsar]

yeah that’s understandable, I just received another gmk kit from geon, trying to achieve the vintage aesthetics

[stray tiger]

Not too big at all. He is local to me and a really good guy (young kid in college but super talented and comes from a family of jewelry people).

[tropic urchin]

That’s awesome

[stray tiger]

Here is a sneak peak he shared last week of something interesting.

Bee trapped in amber

[tropic urchin]

You leaked the plot to the new Jurassic park movie 🤣

[polar girder]

Nice. I’m waiting for PBS BoB to come in stock then order that and cosmos at the same time then be done

My artisans should arrive today

My first ones

[tropic urchin]

Guaranteed to fit 1u escape keys?

[knotty iron]

im not even gonna lie

[stray tiger]

Funny you say that lol

[knotty iron]

magnetic jade maxes are barely usable

[stray tiger]

Yes.

[knotty iron]

if they bind and stick what is the point

[calm pulsar]

damn we got another case

[knotty iron]

ive tried coping for like 1 week and its so bad

[tropic urchin]

Might have to buy RAWs as backups now hmm

[quasi hinge]

Ill try again but my hopes are not high at all

[tropic urchin]

You’re now our only hope to see if it happens

[quasi hinge]

ma man

[quasi hinge]

truth

[knotty iron]

gateron needs to make the MX stem less thick because it could famage keycaps, and the inner slider is not smooth, like it is but i cant slow press what is the point of it being a magnetic switch

[calm pulsar]

for now my jade maxes seem fine

maybe they get worse

[tropic urchin]

Do you have a switch opener you can test one on to see if it happens?

[knotty iron]

no they start out bad

i think I just need mine to break in

they sound amazing but if you press them off axis its like dragging a sweaty arm across a glass pad

smooth and inconsistent

i have tried lubing one of them and it didnt really help

[tropic urchin]

How do you push them off axis is what I’m wondering

[knotty iron]

corner of a keycap SLOWLY

[tropic urchin]

I honestly don’t think I’ve ever had a case where I’ve done that consistently

[calm pulsar]

same

[knotty iron]

i really love the switches but they have to do something about that

i cant recommend them rn

[tropic urchin]

I was able to replicate the sticking by overlubing but that’s about it for me so far

[knotty iron]

mine are stock

how would you describe your environment

humid or dry? hot cold?

[tropic urchin]

My rig is in my basement, it’s usually between 64-70°F with 40-50% humidity most days

I have 3 switches so far that I’ve overlubed a bit

[knotty iron]

9°C and 88% humidity

maybe thats why

[tropic urchin]

Yooo

That’s wild

88%??

[knotty iron]

yeah

do you think it may just be my environment that is just dogwater

[tropic urchin]

We have a dehumidifier running during spring-fall which makes it warmer but eliminates a lot of excessive moisture, but I’d take a look into your environment a little

[knotty iron]

no way

[tropic urchin]

If as’s situation is similar then we have a culprit

[knotty iron]

maybe thats why my jade maxes suck

it makes sense

[tropic urchin]

88% humidity in my basement would = mold growing before too long 🤣

[knotty iron]

well its external humidity

[analog jetty]

does someone have jades and geon raw he’s switches and could post a video in which the sound of both is compared? i know wooting has a comparison video but on that one i cannot tell any difference whatsoever

[knotty iron]

idk what the humidity in my room is

[knotty iron]

mikey does

[tropic urchin]

They’re pretty similar, but I think the RAWs are a little clackier than the Jades, but they sound closer to the new Pros to me

[analog jetty]

where can i find mikey?

[calm pulsar]

I would link my sound tests but on phone rn

[knotty iron]

mikey has a lot of the KS-20 style switches

[tropic urchin]

Mikeytypes YT

[knotty iron]

he has a blue wooting 60HE+ and a black zinc 80HE

[quasi hinge]

same with me

[quasi hinge]

see

and I have 150 of them

all bad

[calm pulsar]

praise be Geon

gotta free up a whole closet for geon stuff lol

[tropic urchin]

New shrine Inc

[analog jetty]

they sound so much different (at mikeytypes), while on wootings yt channel their switch comparison sounds like the same switch 4 times

thanks for the info you both!

[tropic urchin]

RAWs have tighter tolerances which will give you a slightly different sound, but they’re pretty similar in terms of their overall profile

[analog jetty]

how is the stem wobble compared between geon raw and jades/jades max

[glacial wind]

very similar. Raw he maybe tiny bit better but all 3 are tight stem

[tropic urchin]

the Max has some if you press full force and try to move it (you have to go out of your way to notice it imo)

[analog jetty]

i already own the raw he’s, i will probably use them for the 80he and i will consider buying jades maxes for my 60he

[untold wigeon]

yo are SA profile keycaps compatible

on the 60 he

[tropic urchin]

I might hold off on the maxes until we get some more keyboard sample sizes, some have had theirs ‘stick’ when using

[analog jetty]

yea, the profile is just different, do the way the keycaps are slanted on top and stuff

[untold wigeon]

alr cheers

fellow raw he enjoyers 🤝

[analog jetty]

i am not a fan of the lekker switches which is why i won’t use them, the 80he will stay at home and the 60he will be going to work with me. I recall hearing about such an issue somewhere but i didn’t know that it was on the jades maxes, but i don’t have to make a decision now as the 80he isn’t arriving for another month and a half

[tropic urchin]

Same

I haven’t been able to recreate the stick (only when I overlubed mine), but I also don’t have my 80 yet so too soon to know

[celest parrot]

Thank you sir and I don't mind waiting for good stuff

[tropic urchin]

If it happens to Arc then we’re cooked

[knotty iron]

jade maxes have a hard time seperating from the keycap, and the stem sometimes binds on the down/upstroke

or rather slides inconsistently

its not quite binding

i think it could probably get better the more you use them

[analog jetty]

i think i already made my decision simply based on, i like the geon raw switches, the jade maxes aren’t my favorite sound wise And they are kinda expensive

[tropic urchin]

Fair

[tawdry tree]

You could get Geons stem trimmer 🤔🤔😂

[celest parrot]

Is poron foam and EMDP foam the same thing?

[tropic urchin]

I wonder if you could replace Max stem for the RAW if they’d be compatible

[knotty iron]

oh yeah I did buy that from kbdfans a while ago

[analog jetty]

hearing about those issues gave me even less reason to buy jade maxes and price + shipping + based on sound test i like the geon raw he’s a little bit more

[tawdry tree]

try to use it on the stem, might work.

One solution for an issue that shouldn’t exist

[celest parrot]

I have a plan for my wooting 80He foam combination. First I'll put some kil-mat and then the acoustic dampener from swagkeys and then the poron foam and then the EPDM foam which is included in the 80HE

Is that possible or I'm adding the same type of foam over and over again

[untold wigeon]

Anyone else here play?

[fluid ravine]

Jealousy

[chilly mural]

Thank you for your contributions to the Church of Geon

[knotty iron]

cherry mx clears also had the same issue

is it the material thats the issue

[tawdry tree]

Yeah, those have a little bump on the stem to make keycaps fit tighter or something

[tawdry tree]

not for cherry clears but perhaps for jade maxes

I don’t have them yet so I’m not sure

I doubt gateron would enlarge the stem on jade maxes for no apparent reason though so I think it’s a material thing.

[knotty iron]

then why are keycaps extremely hard to seperate from the stem

and to put on

[tawdry tree]

I think because PC is harder than pom

or maybe POM shrinks a bit when it’s ejected from the mold

🤷‍♂️

[knotty iron]

The stem and top housing are PC abd the bottom is PA12

for the jade max

[tawdry tree]

yeah

if the same mold was used for the jade maxes’ stem (PC) and a KS-20U’s stem (POM) and POM shrinks a little, that could explain it.

[knotty iron]

so if they used a smaller mold for the PC stems then this probably would be fine

[calm pulsar]

I do like the PC sound on maxes

[calm pulsar]

I mean I am jealous that your friction mount is more flexible than my frog build

[wintry rune]

Any suggestions for side-printed keycaps ? I'm new to customizing keyboards so I'm not sure where to start looking

[calm pulsar]

honestly the material choice seems kind of nice on maxes
maybe if they were not dual rail less ppl would have issues

in my perception though I have no issues with them stock

also I’m starting to think that harder plastics sound snappier and cleaner, could be a nice change for HE switches

[tropic urchin]

I kinda wish there was one switch that was like a hybrid between the Maxes and Raws but I guess that would just be lubed Raws at that point. Pitch higher on the maxes/pitch lower on the RAWs

[tawdry tree]

yeah that’s what I’d think

[tawdry tree]

Oh for sure. I had hoped Gateron would understand by now that the whole Dual Rail thing does quite literally nothing for them.

[untold wigeon]

On Drop. Artifact Bloom

[fluid ravine]

Fr?

Interesante

[wintry rune]

wooow this looks super cool, how does it sound and feel?

[untold wigeon]

Great

Anything on Drop is usually pretty good

[fluid ravine]

What tadpoles u using @calm pulsar ?

[calm pulsar]

it sure moves a lot from what I remember
my friction mount orings were too stiff so there werent much flex in my freebird60 case

[calm pulsar]

60a, but 50a should arrive tomorrow, they are the softest

[fluid ravine]

Ic

You use all mounting points?

[calm pulsar]

removed the spacebar ones for testing, but on alu plate I havent noticed any difference

[fluid ravine]

Ic

[opal umbra]

Does the wooting module stabs come pre lubed

If they do how good are they lubed?

[cosmic marsh]

Which keycaps are These

[untold wigeon]

Artifact Bloom on Drop

https://drop.com/buy/artifact-bloom-series-keycap-set-glow?mode=shop_open&utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=20546672575&utm_term=&utm_content=&utm_keyword=&utm_placement=&utm_network=x:c::&utm_device=&mode=shop_open&gad_source=1&gbraid=0AAAAADvfW58lengGJKC_u0gTq_crkoa0o&gclid=CjwKCAjw9p24BhB_EiwA8ID5BggSPv1iGaUZ_PpsoBUaOPgY3arr6veiOREzd9JNxW4iNdmidCyAnBoCGfsQAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds

[spark moth]

Those keycaps look awesome

[knotty iron]

if you check the gateron jade max page i posted a long review

i really want these to be good

[tropic urchin]

Doing the lords work, hope yours gets better over time 🙏🏻

Out of curiosity do you have a box switch opener that you can test your switches on @knotty iron

[spare mauve]

pretty much agree with your review. what are u using for now?
Cant decide between the maxes, which sound better and the geon raw which feel better. I do have both tested side by side..

[robust siren]

Frankenstein the switches

[tawdry tree]

If only

[polar girder]

Yeah I like how jade max sound

CBA to fk with them tho

[calm pulsar]

no way

Clacksly

[tropic urchin]

That’s not allowed in the Geon channel

[spare mauve]

they are very thocky if you lube them - not clicky at all

[calm pulsar]

got any sound tests? not sure they would be considered thocky, but I like the sound nonetheless

here's mine in stock

[safe stag]

So it’s common for jmaxes to behave like this it seems

[spare mauve]

will cut the sound from my video, just a few min

[safe stag]

I’ve uploaded one here

If you search "jades max typing test" you should find it

(On discord)

[calm pulsar]

hmm yours does sound deep, what plate you've got?

[polar girder]

lol raw are high pitched

Max are still kinda low

I’m not tempted to actually get Raw tho

[safe stag]

PC from the 60he+ module

[polar girder]

Like I’m not buying max

[calm pulsar]

on the frog they do sound a bit lower but wouldn't say they are much different from raws

[safe stag]

If you put 150g springs in jades max you should feel the problem xD

[calm pulsar]

yeah I guess it is amplified if you use heavier springs lol

[spare mauve]

Jade max handlubed

[safe stag]

No because the friction causing the problem is nonexistent compared to the force of the springs

[polar girder]

lol

Yeah fk jades

I been saying

[safe stag]

The chad jades

[polar girder]

Gateron cheesy for exploiting HE market

[calm pulsar]

sounds good lubed
hope they stay lubed for some time with the whole dual rail thing

[knotty iron]

still the jade maxes

i cannot be asked until I see new jade maxes

[tropic urchin]

If you lube the RAWs you get pretty close to the Jade Pro sound profile

[calm pulsar]

I think jade pros are still thuddier than raws

[tropic urchin]

Thuddier in freedom terms?

[calm pulsar]

haha

let me do it in paint

[spare mauve]

First half is max, second geon raw

[tropic urchin]

I think I’m following but trying to mentally visualize it

They’re not a 1:1 but lubed raws gets pretty close to the Jade sound I want, but sounds just a tad off what I want

Stock raws are just way too clacky even as a jade enthusiast

[spare mauve]

jade maxes are handlubed, and geon raws are stock. I think its hard to lube the maxes in a good way. Too much lube makes them muddy, and it doesnt take much for them to be overlubed imo

[tropic urchin]

What I did was I did a moderate amount of stem, little bit on bottom and both ends of spring and left the top housing mostly untouched

I only had about 5 switches that I need to delube bc I went overboard

[spare mauve]

lucky you, I overlubed them all and needed to take it off them all

[safe stag]

I can confirm they are hard to lube correctly

[calm pulsar]

Jade stem hits the flat plastic bottom with

Raw stem hits the little plastic ring that is positioned around the bottom hole (semi-closed bottom as it's called)

so the bottom out sensation is a bit different

[tropic urchin]

Damn

[spare mauve]

2h lube, 2h unlube a bit 😄

[tropic urchin]

I recommend putting a little bit of iso from an alcohol wipe and slowly remove some @spare mauve

On a brush

[spare mauve]

Just used toilettpaper

[safe stag]

Non used if possible

[opal umbra]

What’s the difference in sound profile between poron and the silicone with the wooting module

[tropic urchin]

We wildin today

[calm pulsar]

with all this talk I want to try out jade pros, but I've had normal jades for almost a year so I know what to expect

it's just going to sound cleaner

but this PC on PC action sound kinda nice on jade maxes, if only they were not dual rail lol

[tropic urchin]

Jade pros don’t seem like huge upgrades over normal ones

Only if you’re in my position and have no frame of reference

[calm pulsar]

yeah but I'm the kinda guy to purchase 3 different switches to build a frankenswitch that ends up being too tight

pretty sure if some ppl tried this switch they'd say jade maxes are smooth af lmao

I bought jades, black jades and black knights and have had this frankenswitch for a while

[tropic urchin]

If you do make a jadenstein switch I’ll be willing to try

I had an idea to use the raw stem on the max but not sure how possible that is

Would be interesting if it is

[calm pulsar]

wouldnt be possible at all

[calm pulsar]

this is black jade bottom, jade stem and black knight upper housing

[tropic urchin]

Damn

That was my final hope for fixing the Jade max stem problem

[tropic urchin]

That’s an interesting look

[calm pulsar]

jade knights in freebird60 case

super clean sounding, but too tight at times unfortunately

[tropic urchin]

That switch has some serious ED

Such a shame

[spare mauve]

for some reason I find it hard to type fast with the jade maxes. jade / lekkers / geon no problem at all. is it all about the stem?

[calm pulsar]

im doing over 100 wpm on jade maxes like I do on raws or jades

did I get special treatment from gateron

[tropic urchin]

I’m starting to think we both did

But I can only test it at 40%

So the jury is still out

[safe stag]

the dual rail issue

[polar girder]

lol nice yeah I’m still tempted to buy RAW for RAW:BK frankenswitxh

[spare mauve]

someone from germany wanna buy raw he 50g? i might sell them 😄

[calm pulsar]

I can do one right now to try out lol

[safe stag]

I sell jades max handlubed for cheap

[calm pulsar]

damnn it sounds kinda clean

[polar girder]

Right

Raw top housing, otherwise BK

with that sweet 22mm spring

Hmmmm

The thing with all this for me is that there’s about to be something diff in 6 months lol

Too much money and work

[calm pulsar]

yeah

@polar girder

pingless spring here

[polar girder]

Danggggf

Oh yeah but it’s white

[calm pulsar]

[polar girder]

The other reason I don’t lol

[calm pulsar]

I wish I could custom order a full black switch with PC stem

non dual rail

[polar girder]

I want all nylon

I think

All black

Opaque

Mmmm

[spare mauve]

so what do I use now? the maxes or something else? 😄

[untold wigeon]

Raw is the way

https://tenor.com/view/thanos-marvel-small-price-pay-for-salvation-gif-14748250

[calm pulsar]

not that small

@tropic urchin I found a jade max that has lube at the very bottom of the stem shaft, and it sounds dampened, kinda bad

did you make sure not to get lube over there when lubing?

cause I'd want to clean this part

[calm pulsar]

just get a feel for jade maxes, then install raws and do the same

I've had raws for a couple of weeks now and they are very good

but I installed stock jade maxes and I'm liking the sound, it's a bit different due to different materials used

and I personally still haven't noticed any stickyness like some people, so I will be testing them for a while

[tropic urchin]

I definitely did that for some of mine I think

Im about to remove some lube from mine since I just got off work

I had 1 REALLY bad one and 3-4 kinda bad sounding ones

but everything else was flawless

[tropic urchin]

Actually not at the very very bottom

@calm pulsar artisan secured

[calm pulsar]

which one? haven't been keeping up

[polar girder]

Cute

[tropic urchin]

Real Opal + Lapis center

Now I have to find a suitable 100g spring for this hefty boi

[calm pulsar]

looks tasty

[tropic urchin]

Forbidden sushi

I cant unsee Salmon Nigiri

Thockfather is here 😄

[stray tiger]

Im always here, just usually working 🙂

[calm pulsar]

this chat is haunted

[tropic urchin]

for 3 oz would you recommend a 100g spring

i think that comes out to be 85g?

theoretically 100g should be enough right

[stray tiger]

For sure, more than enough but you might even try a 60g spring and see. Its on your escape so you dont need instant deactivation

[tropic urchin]

Fair

you think an 80 as a middle ground would be good?

[stray tiger]

You might even be able to get by twisting 45g springs together and see if they will fit. Havent tried but Ive done something similar with other switches before

[tropic urchin]

now that spooky

[tropic urchin]

do you have a video of trying that by chance

[stray tiger]

Just take 2 springs and twist them together (interlock them)

[calm pulsar]

just did something dumb

@safe stag @quasi hinge this actually doesnt have stickiness issues lmao

[tropic urchin]

that looks like a beetle

[calm pulsar]

I call it Jade Max without the stickiness issues

[stray tiger]

ALso if you have ever bag lubed your springs you'll know exactly what I mean because like half of them will twist together lol

[tropic urchin]

I just finished my maxes going 1 at a time, I didnt trust the springs to cooperate

[tropic urchin]

The most I can find for springs is 22mm Geon springs for 62.5g

[tropic urchin]

Cursed Jade Pro

[calm pulsar]

there are HE springs on aliexpress, with up to 120g I think

[calm pulsar]

upper housing is from a black jade lol

[tropic urchin]

bro

I type in Spring on ali express and they tryna verify im over 18....

their front page the other day had someone in their boxers being advertised, but SPRING is what requires age verification??

smh

[calm pulsar]

[tropic urchin]

https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256805984696298.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.main.5.264526a9r2raM2&algo_pvid=8e12c0d4-d236-4332-8b64-ff8093550d7d&algo_exp_id=8e12c0d4-d236-4332-8b64-ff8093550d7d-2&pdp_npi=4%40dis!USD!7.98!7.98!!!7.98!7.98!%402101c5b117285959443495329e347f!12000036100499582!sea!US!3015491225!X&curPageLogUid=qph7St0ExGM4&utparam-url=scene%3Asearch|query_from%3A

[ionic breach]

[tropic urchin]

I was thinking of getting this at 80g

[ionic breach]

no can do boss

[fleet wave]

i have the wooting 60he, I was wondering what case is compatible that has adjustable risers?

[calm pulsar]

these are MX

[ionic breach]

also iron

[calm pulsar]

look for magnetic switch springs

[tropic urchin]

smooth brain moment

I typed in HE spring and got nothing so I went with switch spring >.>

Im tired boss

[calm pulsar]

yeah AE is like that

[marsh saffron]

Pbtfans X-ray base kit has stock left in batch 1.5 I think for deskhero

[tropic urchin]

Actually I have an idea, I might get 70x springs with 80g bottom force in case the 70 45g I cant twist them together, they seem dirt cheap

[flat breach]

what switches y'all suggest for the best thock

fr

[tropic urchin]

@calm pulsar 18.5mm length should be good enough right

[calm pulsar]

geon springs are 15mm so yeah
but this size seems weird

[tropic urchin]

https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256806148791012.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.main.1.e0135322zmvuoC&algo_pvid=29ebcda3-03d1-42ee-a24b-26dc86688fa4&algo_exp_id=29ebcda3-03d1-42ee-a24b-26dc86688fa4-0&pdp_npi=4%40dis!USD!6.08!6.08!!!6.08!6.08!%402103010c17285964943913162e3331!12000036800569769!sea!US!3015491225!X&curPageLogUid=njKXA0Xk2mPs&utparam-url=scene%3Asearch|query_from%3A#nav-specification

[calm pulsar]

ight seems fine

[tropic urchin]

I figured getting both would be nice that way I dont borked one idea and dont have any backups

and it qualifies for free shipping

now we wait for the stabs

[stone flax]

i hate random wacky springs cus of variance

[fleet wave]

i have the wooting 60he, I was wondering what case is compatible that has adjustable risers?'

[stray tiger]

Are you wanting adjustable feet on the bottom to change the height?

[calm pulsar]

alumaze does have adjustable feet

or interchangeable I think

[fleet wave]

i want adjustable feet on the bottom

[stray tiger]

Yes, 4 degree and 7.5 degree

Alumaze from Wooting is your best (only?) choice then

[robust siren]

unless he wants to buy silicone feet that stick to the bottom of the keeb case if hes looking for a specific design

[fleet wave]

wait how is this adjustable lmao

[calm pulsar]

interchangeable feet

[fleet wave]

ohhh ok

hmm

[fleet wave]

I lowkey wanted something like this ngl

[ionic breach]

y tho?

had one of those and it broke

its a thin piece of usually cheap plastic

[fleet wave]

i mean for me the stock case feels to flat, and when im playing valorant or any games i feel im putting too much strain on my left hand

[ionic breach]

oh i meant over silicone feet

[fleet wave]

oh XD

[tropic urchin]

@calm pulsar yeah idk what I was thinking with these ones

[fleet wave]

Tbh idk I just something that is similar I guess

[untold wigeon]

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Adjustable

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[ionic breach]

links

[untold wigeon]

Sounds like a you problem. lol

[ionic breach]

its probably fine

ublock is very strict

[untold wigeon]

Yee

[untold wigeon]

Just Amazon links

[knotty iron]

i like the silicone swap feet better rather than flipout

[fleet wave]

so i just stick them on the bottom?

[uneven cradle]

That's just Googleadservices the direct link is a lot cleaner
https://www.amazon.com/PONICOR-Foldable-Adjustable-Self-Adhesive-Invisible/dp/B0BZCPK98Y/ref=asc_df_B0BZCPK98Y

And also won't get blocked

[celest parrot]

I have a stupid question. Can close a switch with the Gateron switch opener?

Or it just opens them

[stone flax]

u can close a switch with just the switch

[calm pulsar]

you close them yourself

[celest parrot]

Oh

I tried closing it with the opener for 10 mins like a dumb fuck

[calm pulsar]

it's all good but yeah they jsut snap together

[untold wigeon]

Appears so

Just pinch.

https://tenor.com/view/pinch-cheeks-pinch-gif-15148207180053917145

[fluid ravine]

🫶

ya boiss home

[barren wasp]

are different are competitor switches compared to v2? is it worth spending the 50+ on a new set of switches

[robust siren]

Geon Raw HE

they sell it in 40/50/60 grams

[barren wasp]

what do you think about gateron jades

[robust siren]

raws are cheaper and have better tolerances

[barren wasp]

i heard there was a v2 version is that true

[robust siren]

v2 what?

[barren wasp]

geon raw he

[calm pulsar]

nope

[robust siren]

i havent heard that

[novel holly]

how many geon RAWS switches do i need to buy for the 80he?

[tropic urchin]

90

[novel holly]

thank you

[tropic urchin]

you'll have like 5-7 left over depending on your layout

but nice to have some extras in case something happens

[robust siren]

[robust siren]

i have 11 extra from my 60he+ xd

[tropic urchin]

daaayum

isnt the 60 you need 70 right

[analog jetty]

i used 64 switched and in those 64 switches, one was badly lubed, so having extras is always good

[barren wasp]

are they well prelubed

[robust siren]

yeah but divinkey only sold in 18 packs

[robust siren]

yes

[tropic urchin]

ah right i member

[analog jetty]

yes

[robust siren]

personally mine had no spring ping

[tropic urchin]

now im just waiting for divinkey to have their knight v2s available

[analog jetty]

mine neither

[robust siren]

its pretty smooth top and bottoming out

i bought from mech keyboards

though i think theyre also out now

i just barely got mine in time lol

[analog jetty]

sorry wrong mention, ment to mention spookingful about spring ping

[tropic urchin]

how could you

inconvenience charge of $6.99

[ebon quiver]

👀

[robust siren]

sw knights are pretty

i love the box

[tropic urchin]

the knight stabs won me over rather quickly they're so pretty

[analog jetty]

sanders from wooting said that he will pay it, you gotta ask him

[robust siren]

no more gold wire hahahaha

[ebon quiver]

i was expecting a different box, but the knight one is also pog

[tropic urchin]

would be funny if I @ed him and hes like wtf is going on here

[calm pulsar]

yeah but you have to pay funds handling fee of $9.99

[robust siren]

they updated the wires i believe theyre silver or black wires now

(?)

[ebon quiver]

nah gold wires

[tropic urchin]

$9.99 if you want broken goods, $25.99 if they can spit on your box

[robust siren]

oh

sno said it wasnt gold anymore

[tropic urchin]

now im sad

[robust siren]

old wires in new box?

[tropic urchin]

i want gold wire ;_;

[robust siren]

cant see them under the plate anyways lol

[calm pulsar]

I wonder what box do I get

[tropic urchin]

thats not the point 😦

[ebon quiver]

no idea if it's old or new box, but bottom of the box says v2

[robust siren]

i know

its to match your jade maxes

[robust siren]

mine was also v2 just in a different box

[stone flax]

own black plate = stab colors dont matter anymore

[barren wasp]

has anyone heard rice pudding or sticky rice v2?

[stone flax]

👍👍👍

[tropic urchin]

so are the gold wire knights limited editon or some shit

[stone flax]

probs not

[robust siren]

it was in this box

[stone flax]

diff batches can just run different wires

[uneven cradle]

Old box

[analog jetty]

man, i would pay 100 bucks to get my keyboard faster, mainly because my current keyboard is already broken af

[tropic urchin]

Mark's price is $150,000

for hand delivery

[calm pulsar]

im picking up mine tomorrow
bet there’s gonna be gold wires

[ebon quiver]

ye this one basically has a sticker on it with v2 print

[robust siren]

i just noticed that he’s balancing the wires in the art

[tropic urchin]

so Sno is just mocking me like he mocks Drak for disrespecting faker now with these wires got it

[stone flax]

I wonder if geon wires might just be play

[ebon quiver]

Shiny

[analog jetty]

damn thats cheap, time to hit um mark for hand delivery in 7 days

[robust siren]

i need my monitor

i needd itt

[tropic urchin]

what you getting

[calm pulsar]

noiseless stab wires

[robust siren]

samsung g6 1440p oled 360hz

27”

[tropic urchin]

nice enjoy, OLED is crazy

I have the PG32UCDM

[stone flax]

i mean why buy $20 stabs if properly packaged straight wires would cost $4

Hmmmm

I have too many stab housing anyways

[robust siren]

im hoping it is for 650

[tropic urchin]

$650 for monitor is pretty cheap these days compared to what it could be

[robust siren]

right

like my ips 1440p 144hz was 400$

[tropic urchin]

$800 for my old LG 4k 144 hz monitor was a steal in 2020

[analog jetty]

i just have a 1440p ultrawide with 165hz

[tropic urchin]

I think my current one was $1.2k but 240 hz 4k is kinda wild

[calm pulsar]

in my experience only wire that needs balancing is spacebar, so it’s probably easier to just balance it yourself

[barren wasp]

what can you compare the jade max to

[robust siren]

i couldve bought the samsung g9 49” oled 240hz for 900

[tropic urchin]

in terms of sound?

[barren wasp]

yeah

[stone flax]

mostly some thing i just want to slap into clip ins and such

[robust siren]

^ 360hz version coming soonTM (around 1.8k)

[tropic urchin]

Some have compared it to the V2 Lekkers, but im not sure I'd agree. They're kind of in their own little sound bubble imo

[barren wasp]

would you say they are better than geon raw he

[tropic urchin]

I havent tried the RAW, but currently they are still #1 for value proposition + tolerances

I prefer the Jade sound profile more, but if I didn't have my Maxes, I'd probably go for lubed RAWs

[stone flax]

$1 a switch | value proposition 😭 are they more than twice as good as jade pros ?

[tropic urchin]

Idk I just like their sound

[robust siren]

raws are .48 per switch

[stone flax]

but that doesnt mean value proposition

its literally value for money

is it more than twice as good as either raws jades or jade pros

?

[calm pulsar]

they are a cash grab but pc stem sounds fun to me after pom

[robust siren]

after what

[calm pulsar]

what

[robust siren]

wait i read that wrong

[tropic urchin]

I was saying the RAWs are still the best value, not the Jades if thats what you were reading into, im kinda confused what you're geting at

[robust siren]

im in a bus

[stone flax]

raws are my king

and geon is my savior

[robust siren]

fone and hand shaking too much

[stone flax]

#geon

[calm pulsar]

i’m picking up venom pcb tomorrow

[calm pulsar]

ah all good

[stone flax]

I might get it this week

[robust siren]

my eyes thought that m was 2 other letters

[rn]

[calm pulsar]

well it’s a known fact your vision is worse after porn

[calm pulsar]

which plate did you get

[stone flax]

wdym

I got two compatible plates for it

[calm pulsar]

did you get the 7u one

[fluid ravine]

How much is the venom pcb?

[stone flax]

i was considering that buttt

I gotta sit on it

[stone flax]

$67.50

[calm pulsar]

ahh I see

I got the tsangan layout venom and two plates alu and fr4

[stone flax]

superbuy?

[calm pulsar]

not sure what that is

[stone flax]

u got it direct?

u in asia?

[calm pulsar]

yeah I got someone to buy it and send it to me
I bought a ton of stuff from geon like this at this point

[calm pulsar]

russia

[stone flax]

ahh gotcha

[outer finch]

I'm looking for silver or grey modifier keycaps to complement my WoB letter keys and polished titanium artisan. Does anyone know of any good ones?

[stone flax]

Kkb col maybe?

@outer finch

[sacred comet]

im new to keyboards chat what keycaps should i get for a deeper sound profile (my budget for keycaps is like 35)

[cedar gate]

BOG for sure

[untold wigeon]

https://tenor.com/view/memberries-blueberries-gif-7992982

[stone flax]

nice thick dyesub pbt set

[outer finch]

Damn rly close but i think imma keep it monochrome. Thanks a bunch tho

[untold wigeon]

I did. Well worth it

[kind helm]

YES

[knotty iron]

yes

dont be me until gateron will actually make changes to the jade maxes

[barren wasp]

Are 60g springs enough for ceramic keycaps?

[marsh saffron]

aside from the spacebar yeah

spacebar needs L80

or L70

[timid saddle]

who else here vouches for geon raws

[calm pulsar]

me

[uneven cradle]

[untold wigeon]

Chads use 100g

[fluid ravine]

Me!

[stone flax]

hi

[ionic breach]

definitely not a cult

[cedar gate]

Me

[cedar gate]

definitely

[untold wigeon]

Tighter tolerance, better sound. Half the price

Brighter with a pleasant top out. No need to convince you. If you want them get them. There’s a reason a bunch of us have them

[cedar gate]

The sound is a bit better more lively ig but the kicker is the feel

The tolerance is tight so it feels awesome and stable to type on

[late solstice]

My spacebar is stuck after switching to V2 Lekkers

[knotty iron]

what is the deal with gateron? what is going on with them

[stone flax]

hungry piggies

[knotty iron]

?

[tiny summit]

Does anyone use these for the wooting, these are from the the sw knight stabalizers🙂

[fluid ravine]

you shouldn't need them

They're for 1.2mm pcbs

wooting is 1.6

[tiny summit]

Works for me! Thank you!🤓

[analog jetty]

Those are the Switch Hat's that i will use on the 80he, i just have to wait the the actual 80he to arrive waaaa

[tiny summit]

Finally finished my pcb, now I need to install these geon pingless springs, i look forward to hearing if it's worth it👀

[analog jetty]

According to the amazon(-ian rainforest) the keycap legends should be shine through (they are side printed), but that would be bad, because the wooting has north facing leds, so the legends would look bad. But what i actually got is side printed legends that aren't shine through, which is ultimately better, because i don't hab to wowy about leds facing north

[analog jetty]

what are those springs for? they look giant

[tiny summit]

52g pingless springs from geonworks 🙂 going into my geon raw he switches

[analog jetty]

ahh okey

the springs just look so giant that i didn't think those would even fit in a switch tbh

but about the geon raw he's they don't ping out of the box (at least mine).

[tiny summit]

Fair enough, when I ordered my geons, I was simply intrigued and wanted to try them lol

[lean mist]

were you apart of the discussion earlier this week please @ me when you find out i want to get them too

@tiny summit can you do a test before and after you install the springs?

[stone flax]

its because theyre wide diameter that theyre intended for he

he stem poles are bigger in this case

normal mx springs wouldnt work

get 50

what board

are u buying straight from geon?

where its sold by intervals of 1

yowzas

why not a vendor

?

do u have good shipping from korea?

hmmm ok

just to check

what region are u

yeesh

yeah

[analog jetty]

40 is way to light, 50 is nearly perfection in my opinion

[stone flax]

ion think any canadian vendors stock raw he

hmm

well

ansi 60he is 61

so anything from 61 to 70ish

would be fine i think

literally up to you how much extra you want

[analog jetty]

personally i would take 70 just to be extra sure, but 65 should work out

[stone flax]

up to u

not really any thing that can go insanely wrong with an he switch as compared to mx, its not like u can get a switch with ripped off pins or a totally messed up leaf yk

personally havent had to use any of the extra raws i got

which is a bit luck but yeah

[analog jetty]

i don't know how common bad switches are, but out of 110 geon raw he's i had 4 that were underlubed significantly and 1 that was straight up broken

but i don't want to lube those 4 switches, because then i feel obligated to lube all of them

[robust siren]

out of 72, i didnt have any bad switches

[analog jetty]

i just blame delta key

[kind helm]

got 40, takes a tiny bit of time to get used just like every other switches. one of my shift key was returning slowly for a bit but that is more due to my lazy stab lubing method :3 after i spam it a while and the lube evens out everything is fine.

[tiny summit]

Has anyone had this issue? I got my custom pp plate from hype and there may be a problem.. The left plate is included with the wooting and the right frosted plate is from hype, you can see that the original plate has those standoff so that the screws can reach, but the custom plate doesn't have these..💀 these are the screws that come with the kit but they don't seem long enough🤷‍♂️ what do you think?🤔💭

Like i said, from hype keyboards, they make custom wooting plates but these plates don't come with those wooting specific mounts..👀

[ebon portal]

If I use a different switch on the wooting can I still use rapid trigger?

Not a leaker switch

[kind helm]

that a plate or the silicone foam?

[tiny summit]

Plate

[tiny summit]

Using poron foam included with wooting 60he+

[tiny summit]

It looks weird because the pp plate is frosted finish

[kind helm]

i tried to check on hypes website, doesnt even show up

[fluid ravine]

wait

is it just me or is the spacebar upside down

[kind helm]

maybe they set it up differently idk

[tiny summit]

I sincerely hope not🤣

[fluid ravine]

Wait that shit is upside down

;-;

[fluid ravine]

you gotta flip it the other way my guy

[tiny summit]

Oh yeah of course, that's not what I'm worried about

[fluid ravine]

wait what

[kind helm]

he meant like the screw doesnt reach the plate

[fluid ravine]

if you dont flip it then you cant screw in your pcb with your plate

[tiny summit]

The custom plate doesn't have these mounts👀

[fluid ravine]

you need to buy the KBDfans Screw kit

[kind helm]

wow

[fluid ravine]

It was stated before you purchase on their website

[tiny summit]

Darn okay, thanks guys 🤓 I missed that 😪

[fluid ravine]

and please, flip your spacebar stabilizer

again you won't be able to screw in the plate and pcb together

facing the opposite direction rn

[tiny summit]

Got it! Thanks everyone! 🙂

[wild sparrow]

anyone have recommendations for replacing original keycaps for 60he?

[kind helm]

if you dont care about rgb, then i personally like cannonkey's nicepbt stuff. not over 100+ price being crazy expensive and decent quality.

[wild sparrow]

not really into rgb aswell haha i just need a decent looking keycaps

[kind helm]

if you wanna go cheap and just adding some personality to the keyboard just hop on amazon and check things out, if you don't like them just return them :3

if you go crazy then search gmk keycaps :3

[wild sparrow]

ok lemme search gmk

[ionic breach]

do not use websites with gmk in their name

[kind helm]

just don't get JTK, i got JTK formidable set, and the quality is almost like cheap amazon s44t

[tiny summit]

Fixed it, thanks again!🙂

[fluid ravine]

there we go

[kind helm]

theres imperfection literally right in the screen shot and i didn't look🥲

[kind helm]

are those owlab stab?

[analog jetty]

where is the imperfectiopn

[kind helm]

see how the space bar has a bit of roughness and not just a smooth straight line

[tiny summit]

Sw knights actually🙂

[kind helm]

same issue same spot on my set

feels like a 🤡 when i saw that

[fluid ravine]

yeah i have some roughness on the edges on my gmk for some reason

but i dont mind it that much

[kind helm]

i have this set on my monsgeek, no imperfection like that at all

[gaunt plume]

I'm not sure what a long pole is in relation to stabilizers.
If it is PCB mounted and 1.6mm thick, should I buy a long pole stabilizer?

[kind helm]

my understanding is that cheap stuff on amazon has bad font alignments & cheap material, then for the higher price stuff is basically better quality and or better material. that white and purple set costed like 65(says its on sale was originally 115) i thought it be good😭 little did i know

[fluid ravine]

It's specifically for long pole switches or switches with a reduced travel. If you use a reduced travel switch for example of 3.4mm, your stab will bottom out only from the switch rather than the switch+stabilizer. If you buy a long pole stabilizer for that reduced travel switch, both would bottom out evenly and at the same time.

Vice versa for full normal travel switches (4mm) and long pole stabs

[kind helm]

are tx ap stab good? i dont wanna do holee mod

i am thinking of getting long pole. but if the wires are bad then i just only use their stem

[gaunt plume]

Understood!
Thank you very much.
I like closed-bottom switches, so I'd buy long pole stabilizers.

[robust siren]

i did end up getting standard length sw knight stabs for my geons

and theyve been working fine

but like others have told me, it also depends on the quality of keycaps you get

i only have lube on the stabilizers, no mods and checked if the wires were balanced

[robust siren]

if you have a 60he+ id suggest you rather get sw knight v2s

i had a hard time getting tx aps in my specific board

[kind helm]

i don't :x and i was planning to try out the fr4 plate which only supports plate mount if i remember correctly

[robust siren]

ah i see

[kind helm]

its too tight?

[fluid ravine]

This is true, I did state earlier that depending on the keycap and stem tolerance, the keycap can shift dramatically which can be a bad thing, esp when it's loose.

[kind helm]

i had that when i was playing with cheaper keebs. i just brush a tiny bit of lube there then ez :3

[fluid ravine]

but normally it really isn't a big deal at all if the tolerance is good

[robust siren]

the place that held wires onto the stab housing was way too tight and didnt allow the wires to fit in

[kind helm]

thats a new one :x guess i will have to see on late oct

[robust siren]

im not sure if the stock wooting and tx aps had different wire thicknesses

[kind helm]

good thing i brought the stab from amazon then i can return it ez if things dont go well

[robust siren]

ive already returned them so i cant really test that out

[fluid ravine]

Depends

[kind helm]

me planning to do salvation + fr4 plate + raw he + cherry profile, no foam is so fun now that i tried it on a higher end board

[fluid ravine]

They can be good but the consistency of them being "good" is not that great in a way

[robust siren]

yuh, i dont have much movement on my spacebar so its been pretty smooth

[fluid ravine]

Another thing to point out is that they wont fit well with wooting plates

housing thickness of tx ap and staebies are 6.75mm, wooting supports 6.5mm

[kind helm]

guess i will just swap out the stem of the stab then

thats basically the part that matters about the long pole issue right?

[fluid ravine]

so do expect that there will be a hard time for the stab to return to it's inital position

[fluid ravine]

sorry miss out some parts of the convo ima read back

[kind helm]

all good man i am just chilling :3

[fluid ravine]

yeah same here, but the bottom out sound can be insconsistent for me since most of the times it wont even bottom out unless there's enough pressure on one side to make the stem hit the pcb

[fluid ravine]

what's the long pole issue you're stating?

[kind helm]

the stab being too short when you use a 3.5mm travel switch

[fluid ravine]

and your solution is

buying long pole stabs?

[kind helm]

swap out the stem of the long pole stabs instead of using the whole thing, since the housing maybe too tight

[fluid ravine]

oh so like you want to obtain long pole stabilizer stems and put it into a different housing to make sure it is compatible without any problems of like sluggish or slow returns due to plate and housing fitment issue.

is that what you're saying?

[kind helm]

yee

[robust siren]

frankenstab

[fluid ravine]

ah i see

well that could work

Someone did try doing tx ap stem and cherry clip in housing

i forgot what the result were and who did it

but i hope they're reading this later^

[kind helm]

i been taking out owlabs wire for different boards because their wires are perfection

for me as least :3

[fluid ravine]

btw im not sure if other plates beside wooting's work with the 6.75mm housings

[kind helm]

😂 why did they make it 6.75mm when its not the "traditional" size

[fluid ravine]

I don't have the money nor the pcb compatibility (don thave 60he+) to test it out and know but other people like CAM or what not can help you. Im just telling you the common knowledge I know for these stabs

[fluid ravine]

it's just a plate problem from wooting if that makes sense

cus the original 60he started off with plate mount stabs which uses 6.5mm

well all plate mounts uses 6.5mm (correct me if im wrong)

so going from plate mount to pcb mounts means that they would have to use the same plate to make it compatible for both.

MX builds would be a whole different story ofc

[kind helm]

the plate i have rn is pc plate mount from wooting, getting fr4 plate mount from kbdfans, waiting on that still

i mean with mx build nowadays mostly go with screw-in even with cheaper boards i think

[fluid ravine]

i have the carbon fiber from kbdfans rn which holy frijoles gave to me

[fluid ravine]

or just have the compatibility now

[fluid ravine]

My stabs fits but some do fit a bit loose

but not that big of a deal that needs to be handle. Somehow Frijoles said his stabs fit tightly, so ig unfortunate on my part

[fluid ravine]

@cold bloom well well well aint that similar

[kind helm]

awww i thought me special

[fluid ravine]

sorry bud but we got hella special people here

[kind helm]

lol

[fluid ravine]

and sadly im not one of them

[kind helm]

ngl everyone says pc is the one i thought me a dummy for trying fr4

[fluid ravine]

"hella special" btw

[kind helm]

but hey

f it dude

[cold bloom]

My rooting is in a tofu rn lol

[robust siren]

theres at least 4 other people with my our build

[cold bloom]

I love my salvation for typing but I like a lighter case for gaming

[fluid ravine]

yeah but didnt you use to run your wooting in the salv

[cold bloom]

Gonna get a frog mini leggera I think

Yes I did

[fluid ravine]

ye ye tell em a lil bit about it

[cold bloom]

It’s dope, just need to make sure everything is aligned straight when you set up the leaf springs

Otherwise it’s a goated case

[fluid ravine]

I'm considering?

[cold bloom]

Mini leggera looks sick for the price

[fluid ravine]

I haven't learn much about it to like have my full attention on it

[kind helm]

i saw people online did gummy oring + salvation

[cold bloom]

Should be like 100$ or less

[kind helm]

felt like a stiff gasket

[cold bloom]

I wouldn’t gummy oring mount the salvation

For one it doesn’t really fit right

And two it defeats the whole purpose

[fluid ravine]

that defeats the purpose of the salvation

yeah

[kind helm]

agree

[fluid ravine]

and plus the pcb doesn't have like cutouts for the posts

[cold bloom]

I find using a spacer over the 2 tray mount points helps a lot

[kind helm]

lost that signature sound if that make sense

[fluid ravine]

if the case does have posts

[cold bloom]

Like a stab washer

[fluid ravine]

Bumpons

[cold bloom]

I have them

[fluid ravine]

yessir

[fluid ravine]

my case is ugly af rn

beat up as hell

[cold bloom]

Lmaooo

All good

[fluid ravine]

got some adhesive residue left over as well

it's disgusting in a way

[cold bloom]

Patina in a way

[fluid ravine]

lol

[fluid ravine]

i might have to relube my springs btw

[cold bloom]

Ahh not fun

[fluid ravine]

my top out sounds sharp for some reason

[cold bloom]

Yeah I had that with my jades

[fluid ravine]

but it may be due to the rebound sound of the spring rather than the stem making contact with the top housing

[cold bloom]

The spring lube helped a lot

[fluid ravine]

yea

[cold bloom]

Hmm

[fluid ravine]

i might've fk up something earlier

idk

im pretty sure when lubing the top housings and bottom housing, some of the lube on the spring mightve rubbed off or smth when i placed them somewhere

[cold bloom]

Shouldn’t make a huge diff but most HE switches generally could benefit from a spring lube

Hopefully we’ll see longer switches over time so they don’t have that issue as much

Also geon dropped his pingless springs I wanna see how those work

[fluid ravine]

arc just got some

[cold bloom]

Oh nice

[kind helm]

i am still waiting for double stage spring on he switch

[knotty iron]

isnt that gonna mess with the HE sensors?

[kind helm]

tried that on mx switch and its so snappy

[cold bloom]

I have some if you want them lol

Black jades

[kind helm]

wait that exist already

[cold bloom]

Yeah

[kind helm]

got a link sir?

i need those

[cold bloom]

I bought a set but never really used them cause I got raw he’s after

I’d sell them to you cheap if you want them

Also one sec

https://backspacetg.com/products/black-jade-switch

I bought a set of 70 and only really touched a couple lol

the info on the switch is on the keyboard listing for some reason

[kind helm]

wait i am in call in a game rn, i gonna think about it

[cold bloom]

no worries

[fluid ravine]

I just need the springs 😂

[cold bloom]

I think someone found them/similar ones on aliexpress

[kind helm]

tahts what I am sayin xD

[glacial wind]

did anyone here ever end up buying the ttc uranus switches to test btw?

[fluid ravine]

[glacial wind]

i'm still waiting for someone to sacrifice themselves to see if they sound as bad in person

[fluid ravine]

uranus

[fluid ravine]

"as bad"?

oh lawd

they bad from what you heard?

[glacial wind]

yeah there's plenty of sound tests on chinese social media

[fluid ravine]

tsk tsk

[glacial wind]

they achieve a super stable no deadzone result due to box stem bottom out, but they also seem to sound awful and having similar binding/smoothness issues that box stems normally have

[fluid ravine]

Geon 🔛 🔝

[fluid ravine]

ic

pretty much "performance">sound

[glacial wind]

kinda, but also it's stability only at bottom out due to box stem - if you're not using the super sensitive low settings then it doesn't matter either

[tiny summit]

If you are referring to the poron switch pads, then no, lots of people have used them with no issue! 🙂

[fluid ravine]

Depending on thickness it will

it's best to use the thinnest thickness they have

Ranging from 0.25mm-0.5mm

If you're gonna run 0.5mm I would recommend using poron as it compresses pretty easily. If you use harder material with a 0.5mm thickness then it should somewhat mess with the sensor maybe.

[hot quiver]

Anyone here changed the stabs on their 80he?

[fluid ravine]

Some yeah

[hot quiver]

Any recommendations?

[fluid ravine]

https://swagkeys.com/products/sw-knight-stabilizer

[hot quiver]

My spacebar seems to get stuck when I bottom out pretty hard

[fluid ravine]

it's probably because of the pads

since there's like excess lube on it it makes the stabs sticky in a way

[hot quiver]

I haven't checked it out

[fluid ravine]

Your best choice could be just wiping off some of the lube off of it if you wanna keep the stabilizer pads or completely remove the pads which i recommend

[hot quiver]

If it was the stabs, I was planning on replacing it but if its just excess lube then I'll just fix it

[fluid ravine]

yeah just check it out first

if you're still not satisfied with the stabilizers itself then you can consider on getting new stabs

[hot quiver]

Last stabs I bought were durock

[late solstice]

Are the black and white magnetic wave keycaps any less duarable than the other colors?

[glacial wind]

this is all i could find on the upcoming ttc magneto pom switches

seems not out in china still and no info anywhere on them

[hot quiver]

@fluid ravine quick question on stabs, planning on getting tx ap. Do I get the long pole versions or just the standard ones?

[quasi hinge]

what switches you using?

[hot quiver]

Lekker 60 v2

[fluid ravine]

Standard for 4mm travel switches

[quasi hinge]

I used 1.6 long pole but Im using jades/geons with shorter distance

[fluid ravine]

If you were using reduced travel switches like jades or raws then you get long poles

[quasi hinge]

yes this

[hot quiver]

Okay gotcha

[knotty iron]

awesome!

[glacial wind]

Doing some investigating into the unreleased ttc magneto pom, seems they'll be even more expensive on release vs. even ttc magneto rgb at $1.30

so guessing like $1.35+ per switch for pom

[uneven cradle]

https://tenor.com/view/kevin-hart-kevin-hart-damn-gif-22709278

[glacial wind]

they claim pom sounds and feels better, but we'll have to wait for review to see I guess. They're not out anywhere even in china

[sweet oak]

My keycaps are in my state now, just gotta make it home to me

[dull sequoia]

Any of you Geon RAW fanatics: Why would you switch from Jades to RAW? For the feeling? Judging from the sound tests I heard they sound almost identical. Since Jade Pro and Jade Max seem to be worse than normal Jades (If you want to use RGB and skip the Max problems) I am just interested. Though I have zero issues with my Jades.

[glacial wind]

depends on if you care about stem wobble/less chatter sound

[quasi hinge]

whatever you do, do not buy maxs

i have the raws on order

[dull sequoia]

Yeah I got that already. Max seems to have too many issues sadly. Also the sound (for me) isnt really more pleasing then Jades

Less chatter? Hmm guess I have to listen to tests again. In MikeyTypes tests for the 60he and the 80he the Jades (dashes in that case) and the RAW sound basically identical. Very slight difference

[quasi hinge]

if it matters they have a slightly higher actuation press

i cant use the 30s

36 is good

[glacial wind]

it's trickier to pick up depending on sound test setup. Basically you'd be upgrading mainly just for the tighter stem and the benefits that come with it (which is less top chatter when key bounces back up)

for example this is jade vs jade pro/max (which would see similar reduction in chatter even though the max do have those sticky issues right now)

first key = jade, then next 2 are jade pro and max

that slight vibration sound at the top is what disappears with raw he/jade pro etc

[dull sequoia]

Hmm maybe I should get a small sample. Or wait for the next switches. Too bad buying a small amount is usually a bad idea due to shipping

Ah okay... Well they sound different because they are in different slots, but I think I get what you mean by chatter

Tbh I dont see a real issue with wobble on the Jades either.
Anyone knows whether Geon also plans an "improved" version?

[glacial wind]

no idea. Honestly there's not much to improve at this stage unless geon wants to make box stem (but box stem has it's own issues with binding if pushed off axis etc)

[dull sequoia]

Nah I dont like Box

[glacial wind]

the raw he are already kind of his improved version since he did raptors first

[dull sequoia]

True

[glacial wind]

and raw he is round 2 of his he switch making

[dull sequoia]

Those I didnt like from what I saw/heard

[glacial wind]

yeah raptor was just lekker with tiny bit less chatter sound due to materials

[dull sequoia]

I mean... From Lekker V1 to Jades was extreme on the Lekker Edition and the 60he. I guess now it is only tiny improvements if any. Unless switching to V2 if you like the deeper sound.

Or maybe if Geon/Gateron decide to build a new 4mm switch

[glacial wind]

yeah at this point once you reach raw he/jade pro level there's not any chatter left so you're literally just trying to find different sound profiles and such

and there's the whole chinese deadzone stuff that is a mess

[dull sequoia]

I really hate they went with a green top housing on the Pro. Not that I think the other changes to it are worth switching

[kind helm]

where you got that screenshot sir

[vague stag]

is it strictly forbidden to talk about other mechanical keyboards besides wooting here?

[kind helm]

yea if you sell them cheap i am down, i am in us but not that far from canada.

i just checked out the sound on like a chinese site, sound almost exactly like the original jade

[jade storm]

Who had the picture of the all clear keyboard with the Jade Maxes?

[jade storm]

lol no wtf

[jade storm]

No, it was another one but awesome

[vague stag]

niiiiiiiice

wwhat do you think about the Mode envoy?

personally, i think it looks stunning and have a lot to offer when it comes to modding!

pair that with some lubed milky yellows or geteron cap v2 yellows

[honest nacelle]

mode envoy is a lovely board

one of my favourites easilyt

[vague stag]

I am seriously consider buying a hot swappable one - just need to sell my Iquinix F97 (my first "enthusiast entry level board)

[stone flax]

is ok

mode boards just be pricy

[flat cobalt]

@cold bloom what do you think of the Seal keyboard

The 100% size

[stone flax]

mounts a lil like it or hate it

[calm pulsar]

7 different plates for 60he

[uneven cradle]

and what's your fav

[calm pulsar]

I liked fr4, but now that I switched to the frog I’m not sure

will be trying out fr4 vs alu

[calm pulsar]

@tropic urchin this is how my knights are packaged

I wonder if the mail forwarder just saved on space and removed the original box or if they were like this initially

[pulsar schooner]

Yikes

[devout torrent]

a lot of forwarders will remove original packaging

unless you specify you want it

[glacial wind]

if it's from during their sale it may be how it came packaged

swagkeys did ship some stock in baggies for just the one batch during the sale because their packaging wasn't ready in time

[polar girder]

https://cannonkeys.com/products/pbs-mv-classic

[vague stag]

yo, I have noticed that my space bar keycap has some damage after using a simple keycap puller (completely new PBTfans set) - is this something that is on my end or is the product faulty?

[chilly mural]

Hmm, could be nice for low profile build

[glacial wind]

what keycap puller did you use?

[vague stag]

the one you receive with the wooting

standard one

[glacial wind]

i only ever use the loose wire keycap pullers, can't imagine how that could damage keycaps

[vague stag]

that's what I use

[vague stag]

me neither, that's why it so strange - am i doing it with some kind of wrong technique?

[random hull]

https://www.reddit.com/r/WootingKB/comments/1g170xx/got_my_hands_on_some_gateron_jades_gaming_and_the/ did we hear the jades gaming yet, i lost track with how much stuff they put out

[glacial wind]

yeah there's a lot of videos of it bilibili

really not a big fan of the sound. Might be the worst sounding of the current new gen switches

[random hull]

oh really, well good to know lol

[glacial wind]

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1nZ1qYZEny/ - 3:40 is soundtest you can compare jade gaming vs jade pro, ttc magneto and jade max

they sound really plasticky

[calm pulsar]

I ordered a while back so not sure if its from the sale

[calm pulsar]

ohh I like

[random hull]

yeah thats not really a sort of sound i appreciate either hmm

[glacial wind]

the only box stem that interests me is the upcoming TTC Pom magneto if it's able to change the plastic sound of the ttc magneto

but even those are also like $1.35 per switch so not really super optimal pricing lol

[chilly mural]

almost 3 times the price of geon raw

waow

[glacial wind]

yep, they're incredibly pricy

[chilly mural]

if it sounds really nice

I guess the extra might be worth

[glacial wind]

https://www.bilibili.com/opus/974994951003701286 is the chinese info page

basically just ttc magneto but pom

[calm pulsar]

I found that jade max housing is compatible with pretty much any KS-20 switch

I might try to replace upper on maxes to see if it helps with stickiness

[polar girder]

Dang these are neat

Too bad they’re topre stem and only 2 keys lol

[calm pulsar]

mm deep fried caps

[polar girder]

I want someone to throw a big silicone blob where the led diffuser would go lol

[calm pulsar]

@polar girder @stone flax

[polar girder]

A 2 part stem is interesting

[calm pulsar]

time to build

[polar girder]

Exciting

[calm pulsar]

btw what are these main caps? seems like something black on black

ahh its probably from hhkb

[polar girder]

Yeah idk

[celest parrot]

These switches are so small I don't know why in my head they were a lil bit bigger

[calm pulsar]

lol it is like that when you look at things online