🔧│keyboard_modding

[quiet jewel]

maybe just 1

towards the spacebar

[robust siren]

if thats what you want, go for it

i was just too lazy to line up another screw with o-rings on it

[quiet jewel]

time for orings

or wtv the thing wooting came with

ocd kicking in when my usc aint aliigned fully

will do

[robust siren]

uhhh you were supposed to do this

move that hole all the way to the right

[quiet jewel]

I did

its just like 1mm off

[robust siren]

ah

[quiet jewel]

so im tryna make it perfect as I can

time to add switches

I thionk I bought more switches then I jneeded

[stone flax]

how many did u get

[quiet jewel]

7

i think i got like 1 extra

[stone flax]

? 7 switches

😭

[quiet jewel]

no 7 packs lol

each pack is like

10 swuitches

[stone flax]

packs of ten?

[quiet jewel]

ye

[stone flax]

Then ur good

The board uses 61

for ansi

getting 60 woulda fucked u

[quiet jewel]

thats probs y igiot 7

Switches r in

[sweet oak]

Except spacebar

[quiet jewel]

ofc!!!!! jk

[kind helm]

between plate and the pcb, i only left the 4 screws in the corners, not sure if that is the play. but the above sound record has 0 foam, nothing beneath the pcb, nothing between the plate and the pcb, and no tape

had a tiny bit of pin sound when i screw the pcb too tight to the case, but now i dont think theres any

[quiet jewel]

I might use a different esc keycap...

I got a evangelion one///

[sour blade]

any additional leaks about wooting 60 pro

[stone flax]

i did

uhh

it will have additional features

there u go

thats the leak

🤫

[analog jetty]

yo

[stone flax]

bc they mentioned it in a livestream

couldve been a joke

but they mentioned it lol

[analog jetty]

hey in this video sander wrote painter's tape at the bottom, how is the painters tape applied and what difference does it make?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wYACSlhQg9E

[stone flax]

iirc

castle stream

[kind helm]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7-syoxeIBQ

essentially,
More foam, lower volume
thick foam high pitch, thin foam low pitch
stiff material high pitch, soft material low pitch
heavy material low pitch

[analog jetty]

what foam would i ideally buy for foam modding

[kind helm]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G8DRJc7Q0BY

[analog jetty]

thank you for linking those videos!, will watch the second after finishing the first

[quiet jewel]

Idk what i did now everytime i press W it acts as save as button for my keyboards 😭

Erm

[versed pasture]

Anyone try TX AP stabs? Are they nice?

[quiet jewel]

Idk what i did

But my keyboards arent typing

[versed pasture]

Im trying to replace the stabs on the 80he they aren't very nice

[quiet jewel]

theyre just doing random things

We all good now

@viscid tusk 😍 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1012767812336484373/1292209736707735603/IMG_1678.jpg?ex=6702e799&is=67019619&hm=03acefb38770a0b650025f07c37a418485e9c57166e221df24bbe3f4adbf10dc&

now i do all da fancy settings to become pro at gamer

[sour blade]

to get tx ap to work you need to cut/sand the plate to free up tolerances,
also makes mounting methods like gummy o extremely hard to, if not impossible to work with

be prepared for the work needed for the results you are looking for

[versed pasture]

The long pole versions work

[stone flax]

for the 80he still?

[sour blade]

not sure about 80he, i only worked with 2 60hes

[quiet jewel]

Should I get someones profiles p(ie tenz) or hjust go my own

[sour blade]

this is about the plate being too tight for txap tolerances

[stone flax]

then why mention it 😭 80he could very well have different plate tolerances

[sour blade]

they didnt specify if they had 80he or 60he

they asked if they were nice

they are nice just needs a lot of effort

[stone flax]

they did lmao

[sour blade]

missed it or was a min after i guess

[versed pasture]

yeah the space bar is really rattley on mine

[stone flax]

do you have lube or grease

[versed pasture]

i did holee mod which helps but not the best feelig

[stone flax]

holee is bad

tbh

so is bandaid

[sour blade]

did they rly not improve stabs for 80he

thats kinda ... unfortunate

[versed pasture]

I added lube before holee and still had the tinging sound

holee got rid of it

[stone flax]

send sound test with video

holee doesnt improve anything worthwile to necessitate it

any problem from the wire can be fixed by grease and balancing

all holee does is literally a BANDAID solution

[wanton merlin]

hey, quick question, does anyone have the alumaze 60 with tapemod and can tell me if there is a noticible difference? Otherwise said, does it a so much better difference to the sound that its worth it? Because i heard that the Tape dont make a really big difference in the stock case.

[stone flax]

that ends with the absorption of grease/lube and turning the feeling of a stab to mush/gross

[versed pasture]

My board is dissembled rn until my other stabs come inn

[polar girder]

What’s to improve? Lol

[quiet jewel]

What should I do for rappy snappy and Snappy Tappy

[versed pasture]

There's videos online of the spacebar tho

[stone flax]

?

[stone flax]

tape mod doesnt make things necessarily better or worse, just different… ignoring the potential risks it brings alongside, it genuinely comes down to you whether you prefer it or not

[polar girder]

You’ll probably get better feedback if you post that in the dedicated channel for those features

[stone flax]

and its a relatively lax and reversible mod

So just try it if you want

and them remove if you dont

[versed pasture]

watchu talking abt

[stone flax]

what are you talking about?

[versed pasture]

you asked me to send a sound test

[stone flax]

no

send ur own

ffs

[versed pasture]

^

[stone flax]

😭

you can test stabs with a dissasembled board…..

[ionic breach]

he wants to know what the tinging sound is

[stone flax]

thats literally the most convenient way of going about and isolating issues

[versed pasture]

alright give me a sec

[ionic breach]

cos its very vague with words

[versed pasture]

It already has holy mod tho

[stone flax]

could be a tick from the wires, rattle from the housings, mushiness/tick from the holee, etc etc etc

[stone flax]

i mean live ur life

i just know from experience and others

holee has more drawbacks than not

🤷

[versed pasture]

as much as it doesnt feel as good it sounds a lot better than stock

imo

reduced the tinging a lot too

[regal nest]

hey, can someone suggest me replacement stabs for the 80he? also i wanted to order some foam for the spacebar (gmk set), this is what i had in mind - im not sure about what thickness to pick, can someone recommend 3.5 6 or 9.5? https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005002206199504.html?

[tawdry tree]

They say 3.5 for OEM, really not sure if it’ll fit a Cherry spacebar then.

[tawdry tree]

80HE has wider holes so any PCB mounted stabs will fit.

[stone flax]

thats the notion i was under

[tawdry tree]

yeah, that’s correct

[tawdry tree]

Staebies, SW Knights, TX APs, Designer Studios’

[stone flax]

i mean wow its as i expected

whatever rattle and tick is there

is still present

[kind helm]

any idea when kbdfan will restock the fr4 plate? nvm found it on divinikey

[stone flax]

but theres just added mush

[regal nest]

any favorites between them? and they have to be 1.6mm screw ins right?

[tawdry tree]

Correct.

[stone flax]

so yikb’s should work on 80he?

[celest parrot]

I don't know that much but I got knights v2 long pole stabs

[tawdry tree]

I like Staebies a lot but any of them are great. I’d check which ones are in stock near you and decide between that.

[tawdry tree]

They do, yes.

[celest parrot]

It seems to be the easiest to tune and beginners friendly

[stone flax]

good

[stone flax]

injection stabs lowkey the best innovation

mmmmmmmmm

Yummy

lube ^_^

[tawdry tree]

nsfw bro

cmon now

[stone flax]

sorry 😖

[tawdry tree]

😂😂

[regal nest]

is there a big variety in spacebar foams out there? or are they pretty much the same

[kind helm]

i had that when i haven't used my tube for a while, thing just explode xD

[stone flax]

I dont freak with spacebar foam but if i did id go with something sillicone

at the same time

just cop some thick pbt

any eat your icecream

[random loom]

I wanna ask that if you do a foam mod, can you put both the foam wooting gave and the foam you put in the case tgt

[stone flax]

case foam and plate foam yeah

but you cant do both sets of plate dampening/foams

[vague stag]

I have, no issues yet. Curious why everyone keeps saying you can’t

[stone flax]

you did both the tofu and wooting plate foams

?

[vague stag]

Btw, have 60he and a tofu60

Ooooh

Plate foams

No

[stone flax]

im not talking about a different case foam

im saying

[vague stag]

Case foam, yes

[stone flax]

literally

two layers of plate foam no

then theres no misunderstanding here

[vague stag]

Hellnaaah

[kind helm]

yo if i buy the long pole stab from tx, which one is for plate mount? nvm found it when type in plate mount, just couldn't find it on dinivikey due to out of stock

[random hull]

spacebar foam huh, interesting

[dull sequoia]

MikeyTypes actually took my suggestion and created a single key comparison test for all relevant switches (Jade max, pro, Geon RAW, Lekker, black knight) (on 60he and 80he). And also a RGB comparison since I had doubts do to the color of the Jade Pro.
So shoutout to him! Finally a good comparison where you can actually hear and see the differences between those switches.
I think it is interesting how different the switches are between the 60 and the 80. On one board they sound almost identical and on the other they are quite different.
https://youtu.be/6Zza24mKFzY?si=jB7dm8iHt6R48X5x

[leaden hollow]

With the exception of material, is there anything I'd specifically need to look for when looking for new ANSI keycaps for this 80HE to make sure they fit?

[leaden hollow]

Is it standard to measure keycaps in inches? (I'm assuming that's inches)

[kind helm]

i am not sure but i think the unit on that is universal

also most of the time key caps kit would include extra key caps for different layout, you can just check out their pictures/descriptions.

[leaden hollow]

Roger that. 😄

[viral vine]

what are the little translucent rings that come with the module

[kind helm]

probably "Silicone and Poron foam sandwich pad"

[viral vine]

what do they do

[kind helm]

think for burger mount, but i am not 100% sure, hold on

this?

[viral vine]

yeah

[kind helm]

according to badseed tech, its for burger mount

[viral vine]

whats a burger mount

[viral vine]

ah okie

[stone flax]

wdym by this

like keycap thickness

or length

or what?

because youd find most stuff like spacing and thickness as mm

but actual sizes

as u

u for units

[leaden hollow]

Based on the picture Josh sent, it seems like the keys are being measured in inches? 1x1 seems like inches for a standard key, at least looking at them

[stone flax]

no

u

1u stands for the size/length of a regular key

such as the ones on ur alphas

q

w

e

a

s

d

that stuff

that is turned into larger keys

by converting how many 1u's fit that bigger key

so stuff like 1.25/1.5/2u mods

6.25u/7u spacebars

that whole thing

a 6.25u spacebar is as long as 6.25 single 1u keys

[leaden hollow]

So, is 'u' based on anything, or a unit specifically created for keyboards? I feel like inches or mm would make more sense

[stone flax]

u for unit

literallty

[leaden hollow]

oh gotcha

[stone flax]

just the size of one key

there can be tiny differences in the largeness of a keycap

but u is used for general kitting concerns

like the sizes for larger keys relative to regular ones

[random loom]

so two case foams is ok ( the wooting stock one and the one am putting)

[leaden hollow]

So, does that standard still apply to a JIS key like the Enter key where it has 6 different sides?

[stone flax]

if it can fit and doesnt mess up the height of the usb-c or otherwise mess up the assembly u can always pop more foam into the case

if it doesnt it doesnt

[random loom]

phew

[stone flax]

u mean something like jis bottom row?

[leaden hollow]

No, like the entrer key on a JIS keyboard

[stone flax]

oh thats just called the iso enter

same thing applies to the bae

theyre not really referred in matter of u size

bc theyre recognizable enough to just point and understand

[leaden hollow]

Makes sense

[leaden hollow]

Interesting

[tropic urchin]

Big ass and bigger ass go crazy 😤

[untold wigeon]

@harsh dove here you go.

https://drop.com/buy/lm-products-pebbled-leather-desk-mat?utm_source=linkshare&referer=DVRVZZ

[near barn]

has anyone assembled their 80he yet? i need help with the JST connector

i dont wanna break it ):

[knotty iron]

are you trying to unplug it or plug it in

[sour blade]

wonder what most people perfer

i personally own original jades and raw,
i dont think ill be upgrading to jade pro or jade max
not sure if black knights are worth testing

[near barn]

im trying to plug the cable in; but im not sure if its okay for the cable to bend

im following the routing area but it still feels as if i gotta bend it a specific way to seat it properly

[sour blade]

black knights sound scratchy af actually

just me?

[knotty iron]

did you try lubing?

[knotty iron]

can you take a photo?

[rigid temple]

Are the raw he’s 3.4mm or 3.5mm cuz I’ve seen people say both

[uneven cradle]

3.4mm

[wicked lotus]

Is masking tape a viable substitute for painters tape

Or is it the same thing

[ionic breach]

the point of it is that the adhesive must be very gentle

since it leaves less residue + if you take it of ur tearing tape off of electronics

[dull sequoia]

Yeah... I use normal Jades. I will definitley not go to Jade Pro due to the RGB mess.
Jade Max I am debating, since the illumination is much much better. However I am not so sure about the sound profile.

[regal path]

Hello everyone, I was seeing if I could get some input on my new mods for the 60. I ordered the PC Plate, as well as Sticky Rice Switches. I was planning on using the silicone pad that comes with the plate. I was curious if a tape mod would be possible/useful or any other additional mods I should consider. Any input would be much appreciated. I am using the stock case for now until my Holy comes in a couple months.

[kind helm]

raw is much better than the original jade for me. and i think even in the sound test raw is one of the best as well. if you haven't tried that before I recommend raw for sure.

[regal nest]

so im planning on swapping out the 80he stock stabs. the choices i have are sw-knight v2, tx ap rev. 4 and durock v3. which ones of these would you guys recommend?

what i know is that you need 1.6mm stabs and the spacebar is 6.25u. do i need longpole stabs?

currently im gravitating towards the tx ap ones, would the ones i linked work for the 80he?

Base Set
10 Housings and Stems
4 2U Wires
1 6.25U Wire
1 7U Wire
1 Pack Stab Stoppers

https://deltakeyco.com/products/tx-ap-stabilizers-screw-in-rev-4?variant=47295650824533

[viral vine]

i had a keyboard before that was a monsgeek m1 with akko wine reds and i really enjoyed the sound of those idrc so much about a difference in feeling however would there be an he switch that sounds similar or are mech and he switches too different? (sounds kinda like this video of wine reds but obv better in real life https://youtu.be/KIRzZoOrSYM?si=x27FnNyF4vO0cJmF)

[ionic breach]

gravitate better

get the knights

also long pole or not depends on your switches and quality of keycaps

[glacial wind]

knight v2 easily

and durock not even in the conversation

[regal nest]

@glacial wind @ionic breach knights it is, gotta wait till end of october to order though 😂
im using gmk keycaps and geon raw he switches. how do i find out whether i need long poles or not.

it comes with:
10 sets of stem
10 sets of housing
10 screws
10 washers
4 x 2u wire
1 x 6.25u wire
1 x 7u wire
10 x Stabilizer shims

i read somewhere in the 80he channel the stabs need to be 1.5u - do i mix something up? just want to make sure this set will be compatible with the 80he

[glacial wind]

if you're on geon raw he and have no intention to change to 4mm switches in future then go long pole

[regal nest]

i just realised that theres not even an option for long pole knights

[glacial wind]

there is, just depends where you buy

https://swagkeys.com/products/sw-knight-stabilizer?variant=44003048423677

[regal nest]

i guess since the non long pole knights are fine for my geon raw he + gmk combination ill just get them for now. i cba to search again for a european shop that has them in stock, im already burned out on researching. BUT if in a month my shop had long poles and normals in stock, would long poles also work with my current combo? obviously if they are compatbile id go for the one with more options down the line

[glacial wind]

long poles are ideal length for raw he and similar 3.5mm-3.4mm type switches so yeah they'll work

the entire point of long pole is if you're on a raw he or jade type switch and have looser keycaps that wobble due to the 0.5mm difference vs a 4mm switch - then long pole stabs fix that

that said not everyone gets the wobble and it's actually kind of rare

so for most just normal 4mm stabs work fine even with raw he and other 3.5mm-ish switches

[regal nest]

ah, i understand now - thanks 🙂

[celest parrot]

I literally had the same question and I thought my dumb ass bought the wrong knight v2 stabs for my raw he and gmk cosmos combo

[regal nest]

this whole modding stuff is confusing af

[celest parrot]

Sorry for the noob question but for the raw he lubing and knights v2 is the krytox 205g0 enough or I need to get some 105g0 oil for springs and some thick grease for the stabs

[celest parrot]

We will get to be knowledgeable as some guys here at one point lol

[glacial wind]

205g0 is enough. If you don't have gpl oil for the springs you can just use krytox 205g0 to donut dip or similar

you don't need thick grease for knight v2 stabs

[celest parrot]

By donut dip you mean lubing each end of the springs?

[glacial wind]

i mean you donut dip the end of the spring yeah

[celest parrot]

Thank you my man

You should be a mod at this point lol you helped a lot of people here

[glacial wind]

they did offer to let me apply in the past, i declined though

[hollow parrot]

Even on the wires 😮

[calm pulsar]

they are supposed to have tight tolerances, so no thicker lube is required

[glacial wind]

yeah no thick lube even on the wires. All of this newer gen of stabs don't rely on thick greases anymore

typeplus, tx ap both similar - no thick greases even on the wires

[jade storm]

https://tenor.com/view/gigachad-chad-gif-20773266

[dapper kernel]

I used a really thin layer of 205g0 on my knight stab and it sounds amazing

[calm pulsar]

my knights should arrive soon

[wicked lotus]

So thats a no

[random hull]

I guess 4.5u spacebar stabs for a JIS layout may be a hard find? Searched quite a bit and I can really not find this size included anywhere.

[celest parrot]

How long they usually take to ship? I ordered mine yesterday

[lone plume]

then what the good clip in stab?

TX AP?

[glacial wind]

if you must go clip in then yeah tx ap are good

[lone plume]

i have no choice since im on two he lol

[glacial wind]

is two he screw in/clip in compatible?

[lone plume]

not sure i never really check it out

lol

[glacial wind]

i thought it was plate mount

[lone plume]

yeah is clip in

plate mount

[glacial wind]

clip in is a different thing to plate btw

[storm bear]

check the website.

[lone plume]

ah okok

[glacial wind]

i guess it gets confusing because you're referring to plate mount vs pcb mount but plate mounts clip in and pcb mounts have clip ins and screw ins

so usually people just refer to the mount type instead of how it mounts

aka pcb vs plate mount

[lone plume]

then mine is plate mount

[glacial wind]

honestly designer studio plate mount is plenty good enough for plate mount

[lone plume]

any good intro?

[glacial wind]

what do you mean by intro?

[dapper kernel]

recommendation for stabs?

[lone plume]

yeah

[glacial wind]

i just use designer studio ones when I did use plate mounts

i haven't used plate mounts in ages though

[dapper kernel]

is the stock stab bad? i will just relube/tune the stock stab for plate mount. didnt have good experience with using 3rd party plate mount stabs on wooting 60he 💀

[glacial wind]

they're fine honestly. I prefer designer studio ones over the gateron ones but you can get either working decent with good enough lube and balancing

[dapper kernel]

for me 3rd party stabs seems too tight and kept getting stuck, i even ordered one professionally tuned and had the same issue so i ended up back with stock stabs

[lone plume]

ooo

mine still working ok

no rattle

and self tune the wire

[glacial wind]

er if no rattle then why are you swapping them

[dapper kernel]

yeah if there's no issue dont change

[lone plume]

see any better one lol

[glacial wind]

there isn't better if yours are already rattle free

it's not like car tyres where better ones will perform better. You've already reached the end goal if your stabs aren't rattling

[lone plume]

yeah but jsut trying out different feel of stabilizer

[dapper kernel]

only improvement will be going to screw-in stab which isnt really achievable with two he

[glacial wind]

this is going to be one of those situations where you swap the stab out and it becomes worse lol

[lone plume]

D=

[glacial wind]

because now you need to tune different stabs to reach the same level as your current stabs

[lone plume]

yeah might be

[glacial wind]

there's a larger chance your new stabs just end up worse and then you have to redo both and can't get back to the first one again because you have to redo it as well

don't mess with your stabs if they're already good

the 50182929 posts in meletrix discord every zoom delivery period are a testament to how many people ruin their stabs for no reason

[lone plume]

whatw is that o.o"

[glacial wind]

it's just another keyboard vendor that has large group buys constantly for a popular keyboard line. It comes non assembled so people have to assemble stabs etc themselves

probably 9/10 issues with setup are people buying stabs, lubing stabs wrong, installing stabs wrong etc and causing issues for themselves

don't touch your stabs if they're working great. It's not like switches where you need to swap them out to find the best one - if they're rattle free just don't do anything

[muted orchid]

Idk why but after lubing my switches they are thocky and smooth but after a few hours of playing (hard clicking) its back to it being clacky and more high pitched, does anyone know how this happens? (I am using Gateron Jades)

[lone plume]

ah ok ty for your insight.

[austere creek]

because the lube spreads naturally with the motion to where it fits best

[muted orchid]

ahhh okay, is there a different way I can get that thocky feel with my switches?

[lone plume]

to me HE swithc normally will be on the clacky side

unless you want to get heavier keycap or deeper kepcap

SA?

[muted orchid]

Okay, thanks!

[austere creek]

i mean you could try thicker lube

[muted orchid]

True, I am using Krytox right now

Okay, should I buy new keycaps then?

Yeah, thats true

Okay well thanks for the help everyone!

[lone plume]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L1KiX9in9NE

change keycap only change abit of the sound only

[muted orchid]

Okay, yeah I didn't know about o-rings cause I heard some things that it is annoying to play with

Same!

Thanks for the recommendation! I'll try it :D

[cerulean wyvern]

Guys one question, is it worth getting HE+ just because of the stabs. I have 60HE atm and everything is smooth 😛

[glacial wind]

I mean if you’re happy with the 60he and no issues with stabs then no

That would be a waste

[chilly mural]

I can agree a bit, but the sound must also be crisp and nice and idk what happen if o-ring is used.

[calm pulsar]

I ordered from local korean store with mail forwarding so for me it’s quite long

depends on where you order from but it seems korean international stores ship quite fast

[muted orchid]

Okay, so this might be a stupid question, but can you convert normal switches into Hall Effect switches?

[thorn zealot]

No

[untold wigeon]

That’s me!!!

[cedar gate]

If you want to change the look then sure

[cedar gate]

...

Thats a no go lol

[torn ridge]

Are the V2 lekkers better long term? I have the OG 60HE from July 2022. Noticed recently that my WASD switches are wobbling and catching the switch housing if they aren’t pushed down directly vertical. Lubing has helped but the problem returns quickly and is becoming more noticeable during use. Currently on the V1 60g but I’m curious about the V2 45s. I’ve never used 45g switches, should I just get the V2 60gs since it’s what I’m used to?

[gilded forge]

Can i use a coiled cable that is not from wooting or is it going to affect the rapid trigger?

[robust siren]

depends where the coiled cable is from and if tachyon is on it might cause issues

all you have to do is probably lower the rgb brightness for RT if its a shit cable

[torn ridge]

As long as the female connector end fits it’s not a problem. I use a coiled cable from Cablemod. It’s just a power cable for the board itself, the software isn’t affected by the supply cable if it’s rated the right power voltage.

Just make sure the cables power rating matches what the board calls for.

[robust siren]

v2s are relatively new so there isnt really a long-time test as of now

[gilded forge]

Is gunmjo pro a good cable?

[torn ridge]

Is the wobble issue addressed? It just started for me after 2 years of heavy use but it’s very jarring when it happens.

[robust siren]

as of now, v2s do have better tolerances so wobble shouldnt be as bad

Geon Raws have next to no wobble and are .48 per switch

[robust siren]

just make sure its under 2 meters too

btw

but yes, it should be fine

it looks like a cablemod clone

[gilded forge]

It says 1,2m so it should be fine

[torn ridge]

Are they Hall effect?

[robust siren]

Yes just make sure you get the right version- Geon Raw HE

[torn ridge]

I’ve only ever used pandas and cherry browns before wooting

Ok got it, thank you! Is the difference from 60 to 45/48g that drastic? I’m sure I’ll have a week of accidental presses but I can get used to it.

[robust siren]

I mean you can get a few to try out and return whatever you don’t like

I got 40 almost immediately because 60 was too heavy for the amount of typing i do

[torn ridge]

My hobby is gaming and pc building, that’s about the extent of my typing. Job is blue collar gas work so no keyboards there 😂. I’d imagine the tolerance doesn’t really matter for gaming and I always bottom out my keys, it’s been that way for 20 years of PC gaming.

Why I stuck with pandas and browns, like that tactile feedback when bottoming out.

[stone flax]

most relevant options u'd find for now would be linears for he

[cedar gate]

I always wanted to try building my own pc

The one I have rn is off build redux because when I ordered it I was kinda scared to try building my own

[stray tiger]

Its super easy. For the firs time use something like pcpartspicker to make sure itll all fit

[robust siren]

starts wiring for pc

[stray tiger]

https://tenor.com/view/do-it-gif-26049397

[robust siren]

i legit just shoved everything into the psu shroud

no organization

[stray tiger]

Depending on the case, might not matter (if the PSU is separated)

[robust siren]

nzxt has a massive shroud thats below the motherboard + gpu

so thats where everything lives

[torn ridge]

It’s actually quite easy after your first build. Everything is plug in, there’s no soldering or anything beyond finding the port and right cable. Hardest part is cable management and that’s a person to person preference. Even custom water loops are easy but AIOs have come so far it’s almost pointless to even consider it unless you’re a OC chaser.

[sour blade]

I have both raw and jade

jade fits my build sound profile more (salvation) so i run them

I also built a gummy o mounted tofu and Raw fit that build more

i dont think i would deliberately recommend one over the other

[sour blade]

that makes sense, rgb being priority for you

[sour blade]

nah im just watching a youtube video sound test :3

[tawdry tree]

3.4 is the advertised travel while 3.5 is the actual travel.

[wet ermine]

I am going to change the switches of my 2HE to V2's and will try to fix my not so optimal stabs. Are there any other mods for the 2HE i could try while working on her?

[cedar gate]

What movie is that from? I've seen most of Ben stiller stuff but don't recognize that one

[cedar gate]

Yeah when my current is obsolete I'll build a new one

[stray tiger]

Starsky and Hutch lol

[cedar gate]

I've seen that one like 10 times why don't I recognize that scene 🤣

Oh yeah that was the one from the ending

[quartz stirrup]

did anyone try jelly tape mod on their 80he's spacebar yet?

[south holly]

hard to see - but does anyone know what keycaps these might be? 😅

[robust siren]

where is this from

it looks like oem shine throughs, probably wootings white keycaps

[glacial wind]

Aren’t those just stockish shine through keycaps

[south holly]

it's just a fb marketplace listing, guy selling a monitor lol

i did ask him, but he wouldn't tell me

[glacial wind]

You’re that annoying guy sending questions about stuff not being sold lol

[robust siren]

yeah

[south holly]

nah i wanted to buy the monitor

just thought his keyboard looked cool

[robust siren]

i think it could also be cherry profile instead of oem its tall

[glacial wind]

It definitely just looks like their stock shine through ones from the store

[robust siren]

cant tell with that low ass pixel count

the windows key would be the best indicatior

[south holly]

i'll see if i can get a better picture, thanks anyways both of you

[dull sequoia]

Space bar taping. I also tried foam between the case and the PCB but that did not really change anything.
Greasing stabs is the most important, then the switch of your choosing.

[wet ermine]

I will try that, thanks

[stone flax]

😭

[dull sequoia]

What did I say that made you cry?

[stone flax]

i hate sussy sounding spacebars

[robust siren]

i just shoved a bunch of case foam into mine 💀

[stone flax]

exactly

[polar girder]

lol

[torn ridge]

Sooo I ordered some new switches to address the wobble of my V1 lekkers. For the time being I layered the bottom of the case with duct tape and moved some switches from keys I rarely push to my WASD. Difference is night and day and the duct tape dampened a lot of the ping

[marsh saffron]

The duct tape is on the case not the pcb right?

[brazen crane]

Is the 80he moddable

[torn ridge]

😅😅😅 yes it’s layered on the case internally. I used a razor to cut out around the screw stabs

I have a set geons coming but it’s DHL so may be awhile. At least for now the wobble and switch catching are off my most used keys during gaming.

[vague stag]

Don’t get it, how does the duct tape counter the stem wobble?!

[torn ridge]

It doesn’t it dampens the sound of the plastic case

Me moving switches that I rarely ever hit to my most used spot helped. It’s just wear and tear after 2 years of heavy use.

[fluid ravine]

It's just your switches breaking in the lube

[torn ridge]

I’ve lubed this keyboard numerous times over the past 2 years. Not trying to be a dick at all but I think I would know when my daily driver doesn’t feel right.

[fluid ravine]

I havent said you done anything wrong nor have I said you have broke anything.

I'm just stating that the more you use your switches the more the lube spreads out, as it does it will all sound the same while maintaining that smoothness after lubing.

[quiet bay]

what he said

my wasd is noticeably less dampened than my right side of the keyboard that remains untouched

it just happens and u kinda just gotta deal with it

[fluid ravine]

@torn ridge You see the yellow highlights are the parts of the switch that would affect sound if you lube them. Green highlights are the parts that would vary smoothness. After lubing those yellow parts you may notice a huge difference in sound as the lube dampens those parts. As I stated earlier, the more you use the lubed switches the more it spreads out (that's the meaning of breaking in lube). When the lube spreads out, it becomes "thinner". The result would be the lube not providing as much of a dampened sound as how you would expect it after lubing it fresh. Which is why switching your switches that have been barely used to your main spots is "night and day".

You shouldn't really have a problem of doing so with good sound and feeling switches but since you have the v1's i can see why you would do so.

[fluid ravine]

Yeah that's why like once in like 3 weeks after lubing a fresh batch, i would take out all the keycaps and mix match them into different spot so all of them can break in then at the end they will all sound even

[stone flax]

green does way more icl

yellow would only affect sound

[fluid ravine]

yeah i agree too

[quiet bay]

the only reason why my keyboard sounds slightly more even is because i keep typing on it at random times every day 😂

[fluid ravine]

i actually followed that when lubing my raws, its pretty much true

[fluid ravine]

lol

[stone flax]

some people are schizo enough to machine break in their switches

[fluid ravine]

i type out my thoughts when im alone

[stone flax]

and its pretty icky

[fluid ravine]

[torn ridge]

It’s not the sound it’s the progressively worse wobble effect after 2 years. The sound was just secondary, the night and day statement was for the feeling of the switches compared to my WASD’s

[quiet bay]

naw..IM the machine that breaks in the switches

[torn ridge]

But I appreciate the info, didn’t mean to come off hostile or anything

[quiet bay]

myself

[fluid ravine]

Frigin speedster

[fluid ravine]

All good I fully understand though

[quiet bay]

it's okay just ditch the v1s already

[fluid ravine]

real

or do STM (dont just a joke 😂 )

raws does the glory

[stone flax]

i mean break in machines definitely do something, and serve to replicate the kinda smoothness you achieve from get from rubbing the contacts after hundreds of thousands or millions of actuations, just that most often its done in a really fucky way that ends up with messed up leafs or other weirdness going on

like i can see the worth of diamond polish + break in for a nice set of new blacks

but like

its almost gimmicky

[torn ridge]

I ordered a 70 pack of Raw HE’s. I use tachyon and SOCD now a lot for competitive

I miss my holy pandas though, I like the clicky clack 🤣

[fluid ravine]

Well you should be really happy with the raws then

[quiet bay]

gonna be a night and day feel between v1s and raws...

[stone flax]

i hate pandas sm

just not the typa tactile bump i like

[fluid ravine]

yeah i tried one singular holy panda before

it's too hard for me

[torn ridge]

I loved em, felt so nice in CS spamming them

[fluid ravine]

if that makes any sense 😂

not like "too tactile" but idk it just straight up felt hard

[stone flax]

i like some strong tactiles, but i just realized i dont like bumps at the top

its nothing to do with how rounded or sharp or heavy it was

just that its positioned early

[cedar gate]

I asked wooting for woothelp role and they put me on hold for like a month

[sonic crystal]

this should be pinged

[fluid ravine]

lol

[torn ridge]

Honestly I agree

I took a screen shot of it 😅

[fluid ravine]

https://tenor.com/view/prove-your-worth-to-us-kate-winslet-jeanine-matthews-insurgent-divergent-series-gif-18170000

Wooting

[torn ridge]

Never ordered from Geon.works, I’m east coast US. They take a long time to ship?

[fluid ravine]

I got my Raws in 2 days

I live in Texas

[random hull]

can use aliexpress too, they run discount codes, not sure which is cheaper tho

[torn ridge]

Was it from geon directly? Did I fuck up ordering off their site lol. Seems like it was Asia based.

[fluid ravine]

Yes it's from Geon directly

Geon is from South Korea

I've had my Raw's for like what 2-3 months?

i forgot

[torn ridge]

Gotcha ok, they have any US warehouses?

[fluid ravine]

Nah

[fluid ravine]

They have send out some of their switches to other vendors like divinikeys

But you would have to wait a bit longer

cus of shipping

Geon uses DHL express which is why it's expensive but fast af

[torn ridge]

I’m not like a keyboard enthusiast, honestly I worry about my audio and mouse above everything. Well and my PC specs but that’s a whole different animal. I have little background in anything keyboard related.

[deft wing]

I'm looking for a lighter case as I travel with my setup. Currently using Tofu60 on Wooting. Is the Alumaze a good alternative? How's the sound compared to tofu?

[cedar gate]

I convinced like 100+ ppl to buy wooting if you combine discord reddit and all my friends lol

[fluid ravine]

lol

[cedar gate]

It is NOT easy to get millennials to buy a 200$ keyboard

[fluid ravine]

Idk just help out the community with info and shit and you should be kewl

[cedar gate]

That's what I've been doing for like a year

[torn ridge]

I bought the wooting based on a YT I watch back in 2022 - BadSeed tech

[fluid ravine]

Yeah same here but i'm too young sadly

[cedar gate]

That's one of the reasons I got a wooting

[fluid ravine]

I can't really do anything about life's age

[cedar gate]

Badseed's reviews are really high quality unlike hipyo

Hipyos a sell out

[fluid ravine]

Alumaze is a good alternative for a lighter aluminum case which comes in at 575 grams while the tofu being 800 grams without the brass weight. However this also means the aluminum of the case is thinner which comes with side affects of case ping and hollowness.

[torn ridge]

Dude I’m a 30 year old dad who just loves gaming. Built my first PC when I was 12 and the rest is history. I spent like $600 on my audio setup and I splurge on Mice but the whole keyboard market is unknown for me.

[fluid ravine]

Damnnn

Respect

[torn ridge]

I’m dabbling more now but it seems like audio it gets expensive fast

[sonic crystal]

why did you become a 30 year old dad

should have been a 45 year old dad, to have more time to game

[torn ridge]

I do love the thock of a good keyboard though lol

[fluid ravine]

I'm over here being a 15 y/o boy just chilling with my life while learning crazy amount shit from keyboards

[torn ridge]

Honestly I have a fantastic wife and my work gives me a lot of free time. I’m home by 2pm everyday

Kiddo goes to bed and I game at night with my other dad bros 😂. Lately Tarkov or CS.

[fluid ravine]

W

[cedar gate]

It's lighter but still heavy if you want a light weight but aluminum case holy60 is cool although it's a particular look

[fluid ravine]

How old is your kid if i may ask

[cedar gate]

https://youtube.com/shorts/c5Jqp1PwWKI?feature=shared

[sonic crystal]

I like how one older they get the less likely they are to try new games

[cedar gate]

"Not that bad"

[fluid ravine]

Fuck Off Hipyo!

[cedar gate]

🤣🤣

60$ for a key that stabs you is "not that bad"

Whata damn sell out

[torn ridge]

Well work and family come first. Don’t get me confused though dude I’m a gamer. I’m crimson on CoD, was Immortal on Valorant, LE on CS. Currently I’m grinding Wukong and Space Marine. Dying for Delta Force to come back that game is HELLLLLA enjoyable.

[sonic crystal]

yea but at the end of the day, we always go back to the comfort 10~20 year old games

with the homies

[torn ridge]

CS will always hold a special place in my heart. I was a WoW kid for a long time too but that was 10 years ago.

Spectre Divide is fun too with friends but gimmicky. Tarkov, ABI, Hunt showdown have our attention at the moment.

[sonic crystal]

I play a really old MMO with my guild

so I understand

[torn ridge]

MMOs just take too much time investment. Getting older you wanna just get on with friends and play. League is a great game to scratch that fantasy PvP itch

[cedar gate]

I need to take some time and play the games I grew up with more

[torn ridge]

Golden Eye N64 was where I started. Hence my love for shooters today

Halo changed the game then CoD 2

[cedar gate]

Playing some of the earlier final fantasies would be a trip down memory lane

[cedar gate]

I started with Halo CE

And now I play Val 🤣

[torn ridge]

Never got into FF. Turn based was never my thing but I respect it.

Pokemon Red was my jam as a kid though

[sonic crystal]

FF 6 is definitely worth a play

it's "turn based" in a sense that you go when your energy comes back

so it's constantly going on

and great story

[torn ridge]

Fable 2, Gears 1-3, Halo 1-3, ES Morrowind/Oblivion, Mass Effect 1-3, Witcher 1-3, Dark Souls 1-3, Last of Us, God of War 1-3, Shadow of the Colossus, Max Payne. Beat games from my childhood.

[cedar gate]

I REMEMBER THE OG GOW

[torn ridge]

Won a lot of GBs with the boys on that game

[viral vine]

so the raw hes are the best ones out atm?

[limpid crown]

Guys which part of the Geon He Switches should I lube ?

Springs ??

The switch itself?

[untold wigeon]

Springs and rails

[cedar sparrow]

most people just do springs

[cedar sparrow]

his voice is so irritating

i wish there was a whole community based on hating that guy

[fluid ravine]

Just springs

and if you want you can spread out the factory lube on the stem

[limpid crown]

So i should disassemble the switches put all the springs in a bag with lube and thats it?

[cedar sparrow]

ig

[fluid ravine]

Bag lubing yeah

You can either brush lube on the ends of the springs or bag lube the springs

one or the other

[random hull]

Want to buy some 205g0 in EU, but I am gonna pay half its price for shipping. And I guess any AliExpress listing is most likely a replica product.. ugh

[limpid crown]

I have Krytox 250G0 from Wooting and also Molykote EM-50L. Which one should i use, the Krytox one, right ?=

[fluid ravine]

Yes krytox

You would brush lube with krytox, both top and bottom end of the springs

[limpid crown]

But i want to bag lube them

People use Krytox 105G, but, is it okay if i use the 205g0?

[fluid ravine]

the viscosity of both lube is different

one is thick and one is like more fluid

[limpid crown]

But for bag lubing them, it doesn't matter, right ?

[fluid ravine]

No you need oil or a fluid viscosity lube

You can use Krytox 105 or Superlube Oil

Those 2 work great

[limpid crown]

Allright, so, i can use Krytox 205G0 to lube the springs on bottom and top

Or buy 105g0 to bag lube them.

[fluid ravine]

yeah

[limpid crown]

Bag lubing is faster... right ?

[fluid ravine]

yeah pretty much

[limpid crown]

Krytox GPL 105 is the oil lube ?

[fluid ravine]

yes

[marsh saffron]

god i hate his voice...

[cedar gate]

🤣 sounds like he's talking from his nose

[cedar gate]

People call it oil but it isn't actually oil I think. Because people call it oil some people ask me all the time if you can just swap it with EVOO or smth and I'm like NOOOO

[umbral ridge]

where are you guys buying your pom plates for the 60he?

[fluid ravine]

https://smkeyboards.com/collections/pom-plates/products/wooting-60he-plate

[umbral ridge]

ty

[celest parrot]

Hello guy I have a question, what type of foams will you add to your 80HEs other than dampening foam?

[devout torrent]

it already has plenty so prob none for me

[celest parrot]

Current mods I'm planning to do are getting gmk keycaps and some raw he switches also tape mod and lubing switches and stabs, and lube bag my springs also adding dampening foam for my 80HE and the space bar. Is there any mod I'm forgetting about?

[lean mist]

is there a reliable good pc plate for the 2he

[cedar gate]

Is it a good idea to pick up an fr4 if I already have a pc plate

I want thock anyway but people tell me fr4 sounds awesome

[outer finch]

Could someone link me a good syringe for stab lubing? Having trouble finding info on the proper gauge and stuff

Would be greatly appreciated

[fluid ravine]

There aren't any custom plates for the 2HE nor do I think there will be due to the integrated top plate design

[fluid ravine]

I mean if you want to try it sure why not

I personally think it's good to like try new things

[fluid ravine]

https://thekey.company/products/stabilizer-grease-syringe-kit

is this fine?

https://thockpop.com/product/stabilizer-syringe/

[lean mist]

oh so i dont need to mod the pc plate then, why do pp mod it

[fluid ravine]

Do you have any source of people modding their 2HE cases?

The plate is part of the case as a whole for the 2HE

[lean mist]

no i was asking more why do pp mod a pc plate in general

[fluid ravine]

wait wait im lost

"PP mod"

[lean mist]

ppl as in people

[fluid ravine]

oh right

[fluid ravine]

Well do you have a source to people modding their pc plate "in general"

cus I have not seen anybody done that here

[lean mist]

yeah on youtube

[fluid ravine]

got a link to it so i can look into

[lean mist]

i was asking more on why do people swap pc plates

[fluid ravine]

Ok see now that makes more sense

[uneven cradle]

different plate materials have different sound/feeling

[fluid ravine]

See if you're going from a stock steel plate to a PC plate, one of the main reason to this is to have a low resonate sounding plate, or in general to have a deeper sounding board in most people's case. Steel tends to have this stiff feeling while also resonating/pingy sound profile.

[outer finch]

ty

[outer finch]

ty

[cedar gate]

The modabilty on the 2he sucks along with the base specs which is why I usually recommend people get either a 60he or 80he

[versed pasture]

I'm new in modding these would work in the 80he right? https://divinikey.com/products/tx-ap-long-pole-screw-in-stabilizers

[cedar gate]

There are things many people don't like about 60he but at least you can fix then for cheap 2he is stuck that way

[cedar gate]

Black knight are better but those are good too

[fluid ravine]

Unknown, not sure if Wooting has updated their plate housing width for tx ap or staebies yet. But is there any problems with the stock stabs?

[versed pasture]

Yeah they're like $30 tho 😭

[versed pasture]

My space bar has a tinging sound

[cedar gate]

What switches btw

[versed pasture]

just the stock lekker v2

[fluid ravine]

Tinging how? Like is it ticking?

Rattling?

[cedar gate]

You don't want long pole then

[cedar gate]

Just get regular

[versed pasture]

yes

[versed pasture]

shi i ordered it already

[fluid ravine]

Have you tried tuning them with lube/grease?

[cedar gate]

Yeah long pole is 3.4mm I think and lekker v2s are 4mm which can cause problems

[versed pasture]

Yeah it reduced but its still there. I did holee mod which made it better but mushy

[fluid ravine]

How long have you done holee mod so far?

[versed pasture]

just a day

[versed pasture]

can you edit orders on divinikey?

[fluid ravine]

try let it break in more

Usually after holee modding it will become mushy

once its broken in it should be smoother

[cedar gate]

I think you can cancel and replace them?

You may have to talk to customer service

Actually why don't you just get raws that's a switch that works with the stabs you got and sound and feel a hell of a lot better than lekkers

You pay extra but get an upgrade

[fluid ravine]

But is that what they want

[cedar gate]

They're under 30$

[cedar gate]

I mean it's just a suggestion

[versed pasture]

yeh im on a budget

[fluid ravine]

lol

[cedar gate]

They're about 30$ does that fit your budget

For switches that's not too much I payed 90 for a worse switch

[versed pasture]

I had to buy lube and the stabs and that was 27 already

and im kinda lazy to lube every switch

[cedar gate]

Well consider it if you want to make an upgrade they come prelubed btw

[versed pasture]

can you send link ill look into it

in the future

[cedar gate]

https://geon.works/cart

Wrong link

[tawdry tree]

Yes.

[cedar gate]

https://geon.works/products/geon-raw-he-switch?variant=44485640388771

[cedar gate]

He got the long poles while using lekkers tho

[tawdry tree]

Ah, I meant just the fitment.

[cedar gate]

Yeah they are compatible with wooting pcb

[tawdry tree]

Yeah with the 80HE.

[cedar gate]

But it's a long pole stab that only works with long pole switches

[untold wigeon]

hi is there a complete list of mods i should check out

[tawdry tree]

#🪛│modding_faq

[cedar gate]

#🪛│modding_faq

[cedar gate]

I can recommend a few common ones

[untold wigeon]

okie

[untold wigeon]

👍

[cedar gate]

If your new I would start with tape mod and burger or gasket mount

Wooting has a video on both

[untold wigeon]

burger

🍔

okay ill check em out

[cedar gate]

🍔

[untold wigeon]

do u guys usually lube your switches

[versed pasture]

Im a bit confused i found this video the guy used the long poles supposedly he said in the comments on the lekker v2s

[versed pasture]

https://youtu.be/kx6vTEtwZ50?t=624

[lean mist]

i dont have to change the 2he too that's good. tbh i don't feel like i want to mod too much since at a certain point they all sound the same and i'll be wearing headphones most of the time so i wouldn't be able to tell the diff

[tawdry tree]

Long pole stabs are only used in combination with long pole switches (like Gateron Jades, Raw HEs, etc). Not with Lekkers.

[versed pasture]

he used them with the lekker60 v2s tho

[tawdry tree]

You shouldn’t

If he did it might’ve been because he couldn’t be asked to swap stabs again?

[fluid ravine]

@tawdry tree , did you noticed that some of Mikey's stabs have became mushy in some of the sound tests in this video

Or like had a slow return

[lean mist]

https://youtu.be/Ju4kxa8C0_c

like the raw he and the dash sound the same here

[tawdry tree]

Checking rn

[lean mist]

what are stabs

[fluid ravine]

Stabilizers

Just a shorter way of saying it

[lean mist]

ah

ah since this is the right community to ask is the sticky rice still having issues

[versed pasture]

So i would get these https://divinikey.com/products/tx-ap-screw-in-stabilizers not the long poles for my 80he with my lekker60 v2s?

[fluid ravine]

They sound freshly lube im not going to lie

prob the reason why they sound the same

dunno

could be wrong

damn that tape mod does not really help fuk

[fluid ravine]

yeah

[lean mist]

what switches do y'all recommend

[pine bluff]

he or anything

[cedar gate]

Geon raw

Those are the best imo

[lean mist]

i'm stuck between the raw he, jade max, dash, or sticky rice. i was going to go sticky rice but i heard there is an issue

[cedar gate]

Really comes down to personal preference

But I love raws

And many other people do as well

[lean mist]

raws are good

[cedar gate]

Yea

[glacial wind]

Raw he are the way to go

[versed pasture]

is there any news on akko coming out with HE switches?

[fluid ravine]

Pretty shitty ngl

[lean mist]

but can anyone comment on the sticky rice situation

[versed pasture]

why?

[glacial wind]

Worse than raw he

That’s the comment

[fluid ravine]

Honestly don't remember the notes for it

[glacial wind]

Imo from your list the only ones I’d look at are raw he and jade max - and I’d only look at jade max if you’re buying purely for the rgb maxing with clear keycaps or similar

[tawdry tree]

Not really, did he remove the stab pads? It’s hard to tell

[tawdry tree]

I haven’t seen any new Akko switches being announced.

Did I miss it?

[fluid ravine]

dunno

[tawdry tree]

The inconsistencies seem to have been resolved through a firmware update, at least for the 80HE. The magnets are still on the weak side so not yet optimally compatible.

This is for Haimu’s Sticky Rices, Hejin/Grain Gold’s Sticky Rice switch is perfectly compatible.

[lean mist]

what do you recommend

[tawdry tree]

They’re not that special, Raw HEs are cheaper, sound cleaner and have less wobble.

[lean mist]

see a lotta raw he hype here, okay. i will have it up there but i still want to do a sound test

[tawdry tree]

I had a sticky spacebar for a bit but that resolved itself.

This was with stock stabs

[lean mist]

gonna go the artsy route

[glacial wind]

There’s like a million sound test videos for switches out there already though

[lean mist]

but yeah rgb

[lean mist]

is this the raw he or no don't want to order the wrong thing

[tawdry tree]

You can get a Hejin/Grain Gold Sticky Rice recolor for dirt cheap on AliExpress if you want to give those a shot as well. They’re called Deng Gods and are identical, just a different color.

[glacial wind]

I mean if you’re focused on maxing rgb then just buy the jade max. But know that you’re paying double the price just for the rgb - so if you’re fine with raw he rgb then you don’t need to pay more just for that

[tawdry tree]

I’d only recommend the Jade Maxes for RGB if you have/want shine through side printed legends.

If not, it’s not really worth the extra cost.

[glacial wind]

I also have no idea what you mean by artsy route

[cedar gate]

I'll link ithttps://geon.works/products/geon-raw-he-switch

[exotic venture]

oh good timing to see that, i was going to ask a question about the raws

[glacial wind]

Basically unless you’re doing something similar to dio’s photo where he is using keycaps specifically to max out the rgb shine then just buy the raw he

[fluid ravine]

yeah usually when i have a sticky spacebar i would like wipe of the grease or luibe off the pcb

[exotic venture]

i think the RAWs are going to be too high pitched of a sound signature for me; im about to switch my switches to complete my 60HE build, is there a good way to bring that so foresaken "thock" back

[glacial wind]

As in you’re using raws now and you want to make them deeper?

[fluid ravine]

Tape mod is your best friend 👍

PE foam mod over like

[tawdry tree]

I swapped stabs anyway so didn’t bother

[uneven cradle]

lekker v2s if you want a deeper sound raws ain't built for it

[fluid ravine]

deeper raws kinda slaps in my head

i liked it with the pe foam mod

[uneven cradle]

sounds better when you remove the foam

[fluid ravine]

Like that spacebar made me happy 🥲

[uneven cradle]

still clacky

my spacebar is loud as hell on my 80he and i love it

[fluid ravine]

i wish mine was

[lean mist]

ik but i keep going back and forth with the 4 options i have and then i hear the dark knights

[lean mist]

double? nah i see why raw he sounds more appealing

[glacial wind]

Yeah jade max are literally double the price

[lean mist]

no raw he sounds like the route

[lean mist]

specs?

i prefer more of a quite crème sound

[fluid ravine]

Shii lemme find it, i dont remember

[quiet bay]

GH60 Aluminum Case (Standoff Dremeled, Add Woodblock to the cavity, Bumpon replacement feet)
GMK 80082
Geon RAW HE 60g
KBDfans CF Plate
TX AP plate mounts (Bone Dry STOCK)
Friction Mount (Bakeneko60 30a O'ring)
Polyfill
KeebMat Felts Edition Light Grey

copied straight from his video

actually

that's his current build

but i'd assume his past build had some foam in it in that vid

[fluid ravine]

uHH

[fluid ravine]

GH60 Aluminum Case
GMK 80082
Geon RAW HE 60g
PE foam Mod
PC plate
TX AP plate mounts (Bone Dry STOCK)
Friction Mount (Bakeneko60 30a O'ring)
Polyfill

yeee that was it

[cedar gate]

Solid

[quiet bay]

difference was PE foam mod and the keebmat basically xd

[cedar gate]

Wait bro has his specs memorized 🤣

[quiet bay]

and the plate

i keep forgetting you have CF plate now

[fluid ravine]

and plate

[quiet bay]

still waiting on wooting to stock raws so I can get an upgrade 😩

[fluid ravine]

i have most of CAM's builds memorized

[quiet bay]

wth

madlad

[fluid ravine]

the frog mini's configurations specifically

[fluid ravine]

Dude remember my old configs

with the STM

and shi

[quiet bay]

ye

[fluid ravine]

that shit was loooooooooong

[quiet bay]

yeah..

I never update mine 😂

I think I posted mine 1-2 years ago

it sounded buns

[fluid ravine]

you did?

[cedar gate]

Anyone have my build memorized?

[fluid ravine]

nope :D

[quiet bay]

ya

when I had lekkers without STM

and plastic keycaps

[fluid ravine]

huh

how come i dont remember

[cedar gate]

😢

[fluid ravine]

nah lowkey i know you mentioned it like the fewest of times but not enough to the put where i would recognize

[quiet bay]

cuz

u didnt exist back then!

[nova moss]

what keycaps are these

[quiet bay]

hjoly bright

[fluid ravine]

oh fukk u right u right

[cedar gate]

Alright one time from the top
Tofu60 redux black
Burger mount
Tape mod
Black pc plate
Geon RAW
Pbtfans crosshair

[fluid ravine]

dammn i was a few months off i forgot

[fluid ravine]

hmmmm

[cedar gate]

I'll ask you tmrw to make sure you remember 🤣

[fluid ravine]

bet

[quiet bay]

cant believe it's already almost been 2 years since i joined

[cedar gate]

Time flies lol

[fluid ravine]

then it'll be me after you

1 year is a long journey ngl

a great one as well

[cedar gate]

It's been like 6 months for me but this was fun lol

I got into a new hobby

[quiet bay]

soon my v1 lekkers will retire

(as soon as wooting stocks raws)

[fluid ravine]

real

heh i retired earlier than you >:D

i mean am older by a year mue heheheh

[quiet bay]

you'll be an unc sooner or later...

dw

[fluid ravine]

i am one

Wait what does that make Pops?!

[quiet bay]

Pops is pops

[fluid ravine]

D:

[quiet bay]

grandpops

[fluid ravine]

rightttt

So I Unc

Pops is GrandPops

and you are...

[quiet bay]

🤫 ...

[fluid ravine]

frigin microscopic creature!

[quiet bay]

WHAT

[fluid ravine]

[quiet bay]

guys i'm average..

I think

[fluid ravine]

Sized like one

[quiet bay]

5'3 🥺

[fluid ravine]

[glacial wind]

Think he’s using one of the pc see through ones like the swagkey see through keycaps

[cedar gate]

It may be a while js

[lean mist]

what spec y'all rec for a quite deep crème sound

for the 2he though

[quiet bay]

technically im above average if the average height for a vietnamese woman is 5'1...

[glacial wind]

Doesn’t exist

[lean mist]

lmao

[glacial wind]

deep cream he switches aren’t a thing yet - it’s why almost everyone here is in raw he

[lean mist]

i'll just go raw. can i still do foam and tape mod?

[fluid ravine]

fuk

[glacial wind]

Yeah you can add those later if you want

You can foam and tape mod with any switches

[untold wigeon]

https://tenor.com/view/reaction-my-eyes-cant-unsee-burn-gif-7225082

[lean mist]

do keypads do much?

[glacial wind]

Keypads?

[lean mist]

https://youtu.be/igy_n3f7VeI?t=480&si=KMtAJsyqJlsDQX0F

8:00

[fluid ravine]

i think they meant switch pads prob

[jade storm]

switch pads

[lean mist]

yuh

mb

[fluid ravine]

https://cannonkeys.com/products/cannonkeys-switch-tripods?_pos=1&_sid=36f1e754a&_ss=r

[lean mist]

are they worth

[fluid ravine]

@lean mist here's the tripods from the BST vid

[glacial wind]

Honestly don’t do switch pads

[fluid ravine]

i mean they can slightly change the pitch of the switch but not huge at all and by chance it could mess with the sensor

but it depends on the switch pad's thickness

[lean mist]

i heard they have a chance of ruining the sensors yeah

i'm learning

[lean mist]

what about standoffs from 5:35

[fluid ravine]

You mean the O'rings?

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B082SVFWCS/ref=twister_B083K42576?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1

[lean mist]

yes, worth?

[gilded comet]

can a 60he be gasket mounted yet

man why does the 80 get that premium treatment, 60 clears

[uneven cradle]

Sort of

[kind helm]

just because 80 is newer

[fluid ravine]

I prefer Gummy/Friction Mount

[lone plume]

@lean mist you can try simple mod like changing case foam and tape mod

and switch pad

i did that for my 2he

[gilded comet]

they said no plans for a 60he v2 yet tho

[kind helm]

leaf spring mount is goated

clean somewhat soft and nice clack

[stone flax]

kinda yeah

[fluid ravine]

well time to buy a salvation :D

goated case

[gilded comet]

how to do it

[uneven cradle]

If you get a salvation or 461e case you can, although they are a little different from traditional gasket mount

[kind helm]

xD

[fluid ravine]

oh yeah nipple case

[gilded comet]

if theyre different how about the sound? is it still worth doing?

ima go look at some yt vids

[stone flax]

case

that does it

[kind helm]

worth is hard to judge, i think what make the most of amount of sense is still tofu60

[stone flax]

nuh uh g

get urself a leggera for that

[kind helm]

70 for the case is not too crazy and the sound is decent

[stone flax]

nuh uh

leggera will save you

[lean mist]

how much of a noticiable difference did the key pads make though bc someone said not worth

[fluid ravine]

any updates on it?

[stone flax]

went from q4 2024 to q1 2025

[kind helm]

what is that

i google that first thing came up is pizza

LMAO

[lone plume]

not much tho. but lower the pitch by abit

[gilded comet]

damn brandon taylors salvation sounds nice

prob cant get that case now

[lean mist]

what you change it to

[lone plume]

poron foam and keebtape

[stone flax]

with a different dampening material

[hard hawk]

I swear to you… I do not want to lube 90 raw he switches

70 was long enough with raptors

[stone flax]

leggera is just too good

bottom right is a pesante tho

[kind helm]

i thought nowadays hand lube doesn't make a big difference

[lean mist]

2 layer?

[fluid ravine]

fuk

[stone flax]

very sad

[hard hawk]

🤷I really don’t know tbh but it’s prob more for the experience or a smoother feeling

[stone flax]

but pcb is still slated to be q4

[kind helm]

got a link? can't find it

[gilded comet]

https://youtu.be/acKh3fPk35E this also sounds insanely good for a HE

[stone flax]

go to geons discord

[hard hawk]

Even though I feel like the stock of the raws are good enough

[uneven cradle]

Damn that Pesante gonna be hella thicc

[stone flax]

have u seen the weight