o its been 6 days
#🔧│keyboard_modding
dapper hazel
stone flax
Wootility 5
fluid ravine
im going cray cray
fluid ravine
alright
stone flax
looks like a ui update, accounts on web software
Main thing im excited about is precalibrated choices for diff switches
spice plover
That looks clean
stray tiger
Lots of stuff coming
spice plover
Wooting is way to far ahead
fluid ravine
looks like a ui update, accounts on web software
oh hey thats pretty nice
stone flax
not the switch image change
thats good
fluid ravine
oh shiet
fluid ravine
switch recognition?
ionic breach
it looks weird face front ngl
stone flax
For wootility 5
ionic breach
probably
fluid ravine
yeah should be
cus board autocalibrates when it's turned on
so it will think the switches we are using is lekkers
Oh Pops changed his name back :D
yipee
stone flax
cus board autocalibrates when it's turned on
itll be good for reducted travel on top of autocalibration
stray tiger
Eventually in Wootility 5 you'll be able to choose wwhich switches you have to help with better pre-calibration. That wont be available at launch
stone flax
so it atleast knows what the max should be
fluid ravine
Eventually in Wootility 5 you'll be able to choose wwhich switches you have to h...
now thats what i want to hear :D
niceu
stone flax
Eventually in Wootility 5 you'll be able to choose wwhich switches you have to h...
waaaitttt, its not even in 5
fluid ravine
well atleast we know it will be a thing
stray tiger
waaaitttt, its not even in 5
Not with initial launch
stone flax
i cry
fluid ravine
Not with initial launch
still need some work to do eh?
idk how the software and all that works but they would have to test it physically and all that?
stray tiger
still need some work to do eh?
More to do with Simon and team cramming a bunch of other stuff in that's higher priority. Lots of cool stuff and they are adamant about making sure that your 80HE never connects to Wootility 4
Not that it's an issue but Simon said his goal is to have 5 ready for 80HE delivery
fluid ravine
👍
ionic breach
fluid ravine
stray tiger
For full transparency, you will likely be using a beta version of 5 when you get your 80HE if you were an early adopter but it'll still be 5
Mark is typing. Be ready for notes
ionic breach
glossy pagoda
A cut down version of v5 will be available in beta by the middle of September, but it excludes ||redacted||
Then the full version is expected to be released in stable by the middle of October 🙂
fluid ravine
A cut down version of v5 will be available in beta by the middle of September, b...
||redacted||?
spice plover
i just realized something
We should match our shoes with Keyboards
i swear to god that would go so hard
ionic breach
wut
glossy pagoda
Take Control, Take Sole
spice plover
i think that would take keyboard mods into the next level
ionic breach
oh ya some regions wear shoes in their houses
fluid ravine
that's so random xd
tawdry tree
so it atleast knows what the max *should* be
The average max, yeah.
fluid ravine
Take Control, Take Sole
didn't someone back then like almost a year ago like wore a control theme clothing?
stray tiger
A lot of artisan designers are sneaker heads so it's already kind of a thing.
fluid ravine
it should be somewhere in the wootstation
spice plover
didn't someone back then like almost a year ago like wore a control theme clothi...
check i need to see
fluid ravine
but i can remember it clear as day
fluid ravine
check i need to see
i aint doing all that
spice plover
we need to get the hood kids modding keyboards
with air ones on
and rap videos with the thock
fluid ravine
A lot of artisan designers are sneaker heads so it's already kind of a thing.
Woot Bucket Hat on website wen? 
pulsar schooner
Doesn’t taste bad actually, but I prefer crazy water no. 4. Prob the best water you can get. Buc-ees has it I think
fluid ravine
I still want it
glossy pagoda
I want that hat so bad
fluid ravine
I want that hat so bad
Did y'all only make one? 
glossy pagoda
No idea
ionic breach
no way
glossy pagoda
Probably though
tawdry tree
Wooting:
Keyboard company ❌
Clothing company ✅
tawdry tree
flip flops + bucket hat go hard af
fluid ravine
Fr
glossy pagoda
S tier festival outfit
pulsar schooner
Wooting gaming compression socks
ionic breach
did the guy who recieved them send any pics?
fluid ravine
did the guy who recieved them send any pics?
Yeah where is the guy?!!
tawdry tree
did the guy who recieved them send any pics?
0 messages people
ionic breach
fluid ravine
Finna come find that guy 
tawdry tree
@deft flame
deft flame
<@275067252376600576>
Yes sir?
tawdry tree
He’s alive!?
elfin garnet
2 dollar felt mat from temu lol
deft flame
ofc
ionic breach
deft flame
Nope
ionic breach
welp
tawdry tree
🥲
deft flame
i think its still in production
tawdry tree
i think its still in production
oh damn
fluid ravine
yey
glossy pagoda
I shall investigate internally, this is critical priority
fluid ravine
I shall investigate internally, this is critical priority
make sure you get me a bucket hat on the way
:>
ionic breach
i think its still in production
pics when it arrives 🙏
tawdry tree
Yes please!
fluid ravine
stray tiger
Bogan (one of my fav artisan makers) is a big sneaker head. This cap was called No Balance
deft flame
if i dont forget it ill send you pics
fluid ravine
holeh
fluid ravine
if i dont forget it ill send you pics
make a wootstation of it :>
stray tiger
I actually have that cap and its one of my favs
untold wigeon
Doesn’t taste bad actually, but I prefer crazy water no. 4. Prob the best water ...
I love Liquid Death.
quartz jay
Anyone knows any artisan keycap company? I’m trying to get one in red/white
cold bloom
Bogan (one of my fav artisan makers) is a big sneaker head. This cap was called ...
okay I love this
all I find I wear lately is NB lol
fluid ravine
cold bloom
I have a pair of jjjjound NB 992s that I wear non stop
fluid ravine
better prove me wrong about the 5060
stone elbow
Wearing shoes indoor is crazy to me
elfin garnet
Wearing shoes indoor is crazy to me
It is crazy
loud zephyr
I have a pair of jjjjound NB 992s that I wear non stop
Jjjjound with a buckling spring keyboard collab is the last thing I thought I'd see any clothing company would touch. Kinda neat imo
fluid ravine
I kinda want a gaming laptop sometimes lol
i bought one for school yet i dont even use it that often xd
guess i just have it when i go out
cold bloom
Jjjjound with a buckling spring keyboard collab is the last thing I thought I'd ...
WAIT WHAT
WHAT
I haven't been following jjjjound as much the last few years but I have some hoodies, nalgenes etc
socks LOL
oh shit yeah I missed this
650$ lol
but zinc alloy case is dope
loud zephyr
I haven't followed them in years and only saw the keyboard recently. The 990v3(?) in poo poo brown is the only thing I've bought from them. NB's are great but the collab tax are ass
cold bloom
1000p
loud zephyr
I don't know much about buckling spring
yeah it's old and I'm still curious about them, probably feel and sound like shit; it's from an era where the bottom of jeans flared out like nostrils
silver ingot
oh hey its that marked up model f repro by jjjound
cold bloom
LOL yup
cold bloom
I love special edition of stuff like a nalgene or sneakers if I can get them for stock but a keyboard like that being that much more for branding is wack
peak elk
This screw seems broken. What to do?
silver ingot
try rubber band
silver ingot
peak elk
Thanks
silver ingot
Instagram
this video is so funny
bro is straight desk bound and the audio is some guy talking about being your healthiest and best self
cold bloom
try to find the skinniest rubber band you have or cut a piece off of one and hold it over the screw, press into the screw on top of the rubber band with your driver and try to get it out with friction
silver ingot
stripped screws are a bitch
cold bloom
you almost wanna stab the rubber band into the screw and try to unscrew it like normal
marsh saffron
stripped screws are a bitch
Better than snapped heads on a bolt 🥴
silver ingot
i try to avoid philips head screws if i can help it
cold bloom
agreed
peak elk
I see I don't have an electric screwdriver so this is an annoying process
marsh saffron
i try to avoid philips head screws if i can help it
I don't get why Philips is standardized for so many things
cold bloom
I don't get why Philips is standardized for so many things
I assume cause just everyone has a small phillips around
thorn zealot
Better than snapped heads on a bolt 🥴
Yeah I remember the head of one of the screws on my knife fell off while flipping
cold bloom
more common of a driver
marsh saffron
Robertson best bit don't @ me
silver ingot
cheap probably. you can technically "use" the wrong size head and itll work ok
cold bloom
Robertson best bit don't @ me
LOL
silver ingot
cant really use the wrong size hex bit or torx bit
cold bloom
Robertson is great tbh
marsh saffron
Robertson is great tbh
We use them whenever we can
cold bloom
I like torx a lot too
silver ingot
I love torx
marsh saffron
Torx is definitely not bad but Robertson clears imo
silver ingot
best screws i ever used were the case screws for my typ65+
marsh saffron
Torx is definitely not bad but Robertson clears imo
Depends on use case though
silver ingot
those were some hefty ass torx screws
marsh saffron
For tech stuff torx is good
marsh saffron
Yeah anything bigger Robertson is my go to
cold bloom
my dad builds houses and he loves robertson lol
marsh saffron
Yeah Robertson is the only bit we use for any sort of wood working especially
cold bloom
that makes sense
peak elk
Right so it doesn't to be working. Anyone got any other ideas?
marsh saffron
Right so it doesn't to be working. Anyone got any other ideas?
Got a drill handy?
peak elk
I got this
marsh saffron
Could also try hot glue/super glue
silver ingot
if you can grab the screw with pliers then you might be able to rotate it that way
peak elk
It's really late at night right now so I don't think I could drill
cold bloom
superglue has saved my ass for that before
marsh saffron
Could also try hot glue/super glue
I've gotten stripped screws out with some super glue a few times
So long as it's not too tight should do the trick
Hot glue probably won't stick well enough
peak elk
I would do these things but it's like 00:30 right now I can't really drill and I have no idea where the glue is
Maybe stay with the rubber band and if not continue in morning?
marsh saffron
Maybe stay with the rubber band and if not continue in morning?
Good call
Try glue before drilling
Drilling is a last resort
peak elk
The rubber band is now stuck in the screw
silver ingot
how
peak elk
🤷♂️
silver ingot
peak elk
I tried the rubber band method it seems to have backfired
cold bloom
Instructions unclear, rubber band part of screw now somehow
can you press into it really hard and twist it left?
peak elk
Alright I got the rubber band out
Like the real problem is I don't have thin enough rubber bands
Like what is this shit what am I supposed to do
It's scratched to hell
tawdry tree
Like what is this shit what am I supposed to do
Did you ever unscrew this 60HE before?
peak elk
Nope
It just came like this
First time I ever opened this wooting
And only this screw was like this
still quest
try needle nose pliers, worked for me before
peak elk
What is a needle nose plier? English is not my first language
elfin garnet
still quest
Or maybe some tweezers could work too
ionic breach
isnt it just pliers?
still quest
There’s different types of pliers
elfin garnet
Pliers are bigger. This has a thinner front (nose)
ionic breach
peak elk
Right so we'll probably continue this tomorrow at morning times. Thanks for the help you guys
still quest
Good luck 🫡
marsh saffron
isnt it just pliers?
Needle nose = the skinny long boys
Don't take that out of context
ionic breach
people who are tall have skinny noses 
peak elk
We gonna have a proffesional electrician helping tmr so he should have tools for this kind of thing
quiet bay
Like what is this shit what am I supposed to do
wtf happened to that screw LMAO
tawdry tree
Nope
I thought they would have fixed this shit already. Stock screws are way too tight for some/most 60HEs.
I think you could press harder, let friction grip the screw. That works sometimes.
peak elk
I'll wait for the proffesional tomorrow to help us but I'll definitely show him your tips
tawdry tree
Good luck man!
stone elbow
https://geon.works/products/geon-raw-he-switch?variant=44485640388771
what keyboard layout?
jade storm
HM66
@tawdry tree yoo, would you be willing to speak in DMs? I have a couple of questions
stone elbow
66 keys it says but you might want some extras in case
ashen karma
https://geon.works/products/geon-raw-he-switch?variant=44485640388771
90, but shipping kills, you should order at divinikey
ashen karma
66 keys it says but you might want some extras in case
oh i thought 80he
@jade storm
jade storm
hyperspeed
stone elbow
bought them at geon's website before divinikey restocked, but i don't think it matters for me since i'm in canada
untold wigeon
So I added sound deadening material but it increases the weight by like 15 grams. So a beefier spring is necessary. But again it doesn’t eliminate ping only lessens it.
barren wasp
why not get v2s over those
quiet bay
I embraced the ping xd
quiet bay
why not get v2s over those
noone rlly knows what v2s feel like or sound like irl yet
cold bloom
why not get v2s over those
different sound profiles. the v2s should have better tolerances but still to be seen, but some prefer closed bottom/semi closed compared to the v2 open bottom housing
all preference at that point tho
barren wasp
i see
stone elbow
thanks for the help
90 is too much for your hm66, get 4 packs of 18 if going with divinikey 👍
prime orbit
i think the raws were built for me since I always go Raw
Wild but true
tawdry tree
<@316962913145323521> yoo, would you be willing to speak in DMs? I have a couple...
My DMs are open if you still need help
stone elbow
what color switch plate do you guys prefer?
tawdry tree
what color switch plate do you guys prefer?
Black or mirror finish but that’s a pain and a half to get.
stark osprey
Yup a lot of people not paying attention to the important stuff. That 21 AWG wire they're using for the power pair is thicker than a lot of the standard 24AWG you see being used on even >$100/cable from custom cables scene 💀 . Aesthetics is one thing, but function > form in most cases for me. Geon does do a good job for sure, and also a lot of other cheap-yet-quality brands out there.
cold bloom
that's really cool, thanks for the info @stark osprey
quiet bay
what color switch plate do you guys prefer?
white cause I have a white board
stone elbow
Black or mirror finish but that’s a pain and a half to get.
oo mirror finish sounds interesting, i feel like it would look dirty quick
tawdry tree
oo mirror finish sounds interesting, i feel like it would look dirty quick
Depends what you do at your desk but yeah. It also really subtle with most cases. Especially without LEDs.
It just reflects the bottom of your keycaps if lights are off.
stone elbow
white cause I have a white board
yeah white is nice, i kinda wanna try out black plate on white keyboard and see what it would look like
quiet bay
personally I just choose whatever color that will blend into the keyboard
stone flax
yes lol
stone flax
jade storm
your board is so fire
quiet bay
damn you have one??
stone flax
geon literally sells it
fluid ravine
what board?
stone flax
damn you have one??
yeah for sure
stone flax
what board?
geonworks f1 with raw he
cold bloom
I gotta get around to doing that with mine soon
stone flax
on da keebmat
tidal frigate
Why do you cheat on your 60he
cold bloom
but I much prefer my hmx switches lol
quiet bay
ye
quiet bay
but I much prefer my hmx switches lol
how much different do they feel?
sweet oak
Mmmmm, sounds tasty
stone elbow
on da keebmat
what's a keebmat
stone flax
what's a keebmat
little mat for ur keyboard that helps with sound
cold bloom
how much different do they feel?
good question, I think my hmx switches are all a bit lighter than my raw HE 60g other than the xinhais, but they feel similar
stone flax
very cool
cold bloom
the tolerances are pretty solid on hmx
stone flax
good question, I think my hmx switches are all a bit lighter than my raw HE 60g ...
which one
because hmx switches are like
40ish grams bottom out
but extended springs
cold bloom
I have the heavier xinhais I forget the exact weight
stone flax
so they feel similarish
stone flax
I have the heavier xinhais I forget the exact weight
i think those are 63g
cold bloom
and then game 1989 and swift
cold bloom
i think those are 63g
that sounds right
quiet bay
I think I should go for an mx build then 
stone flax
my relationship with hmx is ended tbh
cold bloom
LOL
whys that
the new retro film switches are pretty nice with new molds
I wanna get some nixies next tho
modded
stone flax
lube pullage on 90% of my hyacinth v2u's
my clouds have shrunk stems
and have sticky topout
cold bloom
that's not good
quiet bay
yike
stone flax
keygeek has been so nice tho
not uberly smooth like hmx
but man id take that if it means my switches are fine without opening them up and literally wiping off lube from the pole/bottom housing
cold bloom
I like the swifts the most so far from the ones I have
stone flax
suckssss
cold bloom
my oil kings have a bit of a syringe effect going on with some lube coming out the top lol
I've noticed that pretty quick
but they seem to have broken in and are decently consistent
stone flax
uhh i think i have a recording of hmx prior to lube pooling
was actually kinda fun to type on prior
cold bloom
Nice
I checked most of my swifts and they don't seem to be overly lubed
so I don't think I'll have pooling issues hopefully
stone flax
i kinda want to pick up some more but im just so scared of getting another trash batch
maybe ill pick up some of the new ones
cold bloom
the new ones have been solid I think
yeah
I like the game 1989 ones a lot
this is them in my bauer lite rn
stone flax
using foams?
cold bloom
yeah I have the plate foam
stone flax
icic
cold bloom
I take it home a lot so didnt want it to be too loud
stone flax
u should really try a keebmat haha
untold wigeon
@quiet bay here you go. This can be your project.
quiet bay
<@617121680417882132> here you go. This can be your project.
holy jesus
untold wigeon
holy jesus
It looks so cool though
quiet bay
<@617121680417882132> here you go. This can be your project.
I can see someone like
attaching that to their chair
lmao
elfin garnet
I gotta get around to doing that with mine soon
I held off on doing that for weeks and I finally did a week ago. So worth it
untold wigeon
These guys make some killer stuff. This “Relic 80” is awesome.
https://www.angrymiao.com/en/am-relic-80/?ref=siliconfilter.com
cold bloom
I held off on doing that for weeks and I finally did a week ago. So worth it
I might try and do that sunday
untold wigeon
holy jesus
They have a Battleship version that’s like $2,700 lol
cold bloom
@stone flax that's with my keebmat
I don't have one that fits my 65% but maybe someday lol
sweet oak
Oh that reminds me that i didnt do a soundtest when i finished my module 
fluid ravine
Without keebmat
cold bloom
I sent it before
fluid ravine
cold bloom
bro punkin
fluid ravine
LOL
cold bloom
cold bloom
hahahhaa i saw it
@stone flax okay these keygeek mz y3 might be my next purchase
20$ cad for 70 and they sound unreal in the tests I've found
untold wigeon
I always liked the way these sound. @cold bloom Kailh Box Jellyfish
untold wigeon
Normally I’m not a fan of Kailh
cold bloom
they're a bit loud for my personal style but they are cool
stone flax
<@439514498961899530> okay these keygeek mz y3 might be my next purchase
i love the y3's
cold bloom
i love the y3's
I might grab some next week
untold wigeon
These too @cold bloom they sound like rain drops. lol.
cold bloom
akko creamy yellows sounded nice too iirc
stone flax
I might grab some next week
what y3's sound like in one board
the spacebar isnt a y3
quiet bay
They have a Battleship version that’s like $2,700 lol
wtff
jade storm
Sir TuanV
flat cobalt
These too <@244061343437684736> they sound like rain drops. lol.
these loook cute
jade falcon
So I added sound deadening material but it increases the weight by like 15 grams...
what was the material and how did you add it?
cold bloom
this spacebar is much nicer
jade falcon
did you just stuff it into the space bar?
untold wigeon
what was the material and how did you add it?
It’s like this but not this one. Add a layer halfway up the stems let it dry for 5 days. Then you have to trim it so it’s out of the way of the stabs and switch.
quiet bay
this spacebar is much nicer
damn that sounds so nice
quiet bay
when you get the right switch in the salvation the space bar is great
that's the kind of spacebar I want
fluid ravine
that's the kind of spacebar I want <:pepe_cry:643973235188170753>
oh gosh the pfp
fluid ravine
that's the kind of spacebar I want <:pepe_cry:643973235188170753>
same..
quiet bay
oh gosh the pfp <:dogekek:1134256020156317706>
hehe
cold bloom
if I get around to lubing the springs in my Raw HEs this weekend ill put them in the salvation real quick
will see
glacial wind
The raw church grows
fluid ravine
they're driving me crazy
fluid ravine
The raw church grows
Amen
glacial wind
The wooting keyboard modding basic starter pack of raw he switches and knight stabs is the true path
cold bloom
what switches do you have rn thackson
I always forget
I need to get the 60he+ sometime so I can use knight stabs on it
quiet bay
The wooting keyboard modding basic starter pack of raw he switches and knight st...
what if 60he supported multiple layouts
fluid ravine
what switches do you have rn thackson
RAWS LOL
cold bloom
I wanna get them for my mx builds tho soon
fluid ravine
LMAOOOOOOOOOO
cold bloom
fluid ravine
I need to get the 60he+ sometime so I can use knight stabs on it
dude i want the + for pcb mounted stabs 😭
cold bloom
dude i want the + for pcb mounted stabs 😭
same bro
fluid ravine
i honestly just cant with my stabs rn
fluid ravine
i forgot when i got mine
tawdry tree
dude i want the + for pcb mounted stabs 😭
just get a drill fp
fluid ravine
like around feburary almost 2 years ago?
fluid ravine
just get a drill fp
u right u right
quiet bay
just get a drill fp
glacial wind
Just sell it and buy module lol
tawdry tree
might actually be fine 😂
glacial wind
You lose almost nothing with resale prices on wooting lol
fluid ravine
Just sell it and buy module lol
but i need a keyboard D:
cold bloom
not really too bothered rn anyway with the plate mount stabs being fine for me
I want a new case for it more than anything
I might put cherry plate mount stabs in sometime but I like that theyre easy to use with oring also
glacial wind
I’ll definitely sell my 60he when I get my 80he. Then decide if I buy a 60he plus or try the geon venom or similar for my 60%
cold bloom
I might just go that route instead down the road
I have a 60% and 65% mx build too so
fluid ravine
my wooting is my only board rn
fluid ravine
i gave my friend my spare board so now im just stuck with my board
i cant survive without it :(
cold bloom
the bauer lite is such a fun board for a 2nd keyboard
mx only obviously but it's so good for the price
fluid ravine
luv the bauer lite
cold bloom
the new colours are cool too
seafoam
and bone is opaque not translucent
so cool to mix with other colours like the clear or clear black
like this
fluid ravine
holy shit-
cold bloom
yerrrr
quiet bay
woh
cold bloom
all white hardware for the bumpers and tadpoles etc
fluid ravine
now thats a xray board worthy
fluid ravine
worthy<-
jade storm
i gave my friend my spare board so now im just stuck with my board
which
fluid ravine
yea i rememba
cold bloom
fluid ravine
yeee
cold bloom
that's perfect for x ray keycaps
yeah same guy designed them
I just prefer an off white
cold bloom
I like the xray cable the most from the whole set
fluid ravine
all down to prefernce from there
cold bloom
I might get the keycaps on the restock later but idk yet
I dont think I'd use them much
spice plover
not capping
@fluid ravine what is that thing u just bought
o yeh keebmat
is there anything like the keebmat but just an actual oring gasket or any sort of thing that would make it more comfy to type on?
fluid ravine
is there anything like the keebmat but just an actual oring gasket or any sort o...
I'm not understanding the question
fluid ravine
so you want a board to sink into a mat
fluid ravine
ehhhhhh no
spice plover
does that sound bad though?
fluid ravine
I don't think it's good for the board to sink into the mat either way
fluid ravine
the sound would disperse through the mat which would dampen alot of its sound
and by chance when your wrist rest onto both the mat and board it will give an uneven angle
CAM had the same problem but i cant explain that well rn
spice plover
like a universal "mat" but for the underside of the keyboard case
fluid ravine
like a universal "mat" but for the underside of the keyboard case
a keeb mat but not from KeebMat?
spice plover
lmao bro ur keebmat is basically a sheet of paper
or foam
i mean like a gasket o ring material type of thing underneath
fluid ravine
i can't justify that cus i dont have it yet
spice plover
i think it would work
its not going to do jack for sound but for typing feel i have like a small prototype idea
quiet bay
your desk kinda makes the sound of your board more resonant sounding
so you hear some of the desk
but mat vs w/o mat is a pretty big difference ngl
spice plover
@quiet bay so imagine a O-ring gasket underneath your case right now. it would cover only the edges and leave all the rest to bounce
fluid ravine
<@617121680417882132> so imagine a O-ring gasket underneath your case right now....
You should've just said this
spice plover
aslong as it was a rectanglular shape with the oring and it would attach to the bottom
it would work
stone elbow
but mat vs w/o mat is a pretty big difference ngl
would the keebmat matter when keyboard is on a deskmat/long mousepad already?
spice plover
and sound wouldnt be destroyed
quiet bay
would the keebmat matter when keyboard is on a deskmat/long mousepad already?
naw not really
spice plover
You should've just said this
mb im creative but not the best at expressing the ideas sometimes
it just came to me so
i just wanted to see if something like that existed
fluid ravine
i just wanted to see if something like that existed
Well then no.
spice plover
interesting idea but I ddon't think the o ring will stay in the same place
ill get a prototype soon. my machine shop is nearby and they make a lot of customs
im sure i can try to get something custom fit for my keyboard
and the material is dirt cheap
quiet bay
and the material is dirt cheap
what material?
spice plover
what material?
Rubber basically from what i am seeing
or fk that i can just put it only on the corners
GG
i dont need it to circle around or "rectangle" around xD
quiet bay
interesting concept
fluid ravine
Tbh I don't like that idea
But you could try ig
spice plover
Tbh I don't like that idea
But you could try ig
yeh maybe its bad
i still want to try it
would be a cool idea if it works and it actually makes typing more comfortable for cheap + doesnt interfere with sound quality
stone elbow
what's the difference between normal keebmat and the felt edition
quiet bay
what's the difference between normal keebmat and the felt edition
@fluid ravine you know this!!
paper bloom
<@617121680417882132> so imagine a O-ring gasket underneath your case right now....
Yea its do able
But beware of its one sided force tho
Unless youre aiming for that you can try and secure the other side like what the salvation case did
stone elbow
light gray felt edition would fit so well with my x-ray build hm...
fluid ravine
what's the difference between normal keebmat and the felt edition
the original is made out of foam so it would disperse sound more evenly which would dampen the sound a bit
Felt is made out of a harder premium material (idk what specifically, ask K33bs) so this wouldn't absorb sound that much but will "return" back at you
Both works well on tables that have reverbs and all that
paper bloom
From what ik the case the plate and switches as well as keycaps are the key stuffs
You can run mats below it if youre a hard presser
spice plover
Yea its do able
ty for input! yeah im slowly in my brain upgrading my idea to a rubber gasket case sleave
paper bloom
Meanwhile im still waiting on that uhh Cardboard ideas that im still implementing
And thinking about
spice plover
Meanwhile im still waiting on that uhh Cardboard ideas that im still implementin...
o nice what was the idea?
paper bloom
o nice what was the idea?
Eh lemme first check in with my buddy who has already made a cardboard case
LOL
paper bloom
o nice what was the idea?
But basically what me and my friend did was he has made a cardboard case and ive made cardboard pads/Foam
And it is poppier
spice plover
But basically what me and my friend did was he has made a cardboard case and ive...
thats cool ! xD
did you guys make a prototype
strange bloom
Folks, for stability, are there any better switches than gateron jade?
Or I go for the safe and known bet with Gateron
glacial wind
Folks, for stability, are there any better switches than gateron jade?
Geon raw he
paper bloom
^^
glacial wind
The new hotness that everyone is using these days. Some have been quoted as saying “I didn’t believe in religion until I tried the geon raw he switches and it made me see god”
strange bloom
The new hotness that everyone is using these days. Some have been quoted as sayi...
Hahahaha
Joking or true?
harsh dove
True
strange bloom
Ok mate, thanks so much
Would you go for the 40, 50 or 60gf? I know it’s a very personal thing
paper bloom
I recommend to get the 50 or the 40g one
paper bloom
Is cool\
paper bloom
Would you go for the 40, 50 or 60gf? I know it’s a very personal thing
60grams are heavy af
Unless youre used to it
stone elbow
50g is the best middleground, 40g might feel too light
strange bloom
that’s what I think
stone elbow
50g is the same bottom out force as the jades
paper bloom
50g is the best middleground, 40g might feel too light
Not rlly
The L45's are lighter
For the 50's
glacial wind
50g is the safest bet if you’re unsure on what to pick
stone elbow
<@439514498961899530> that's with my keebmat
is that keebmat 60%, it looks too small for what looks like the tofu, should i get 65% keebmat instead?
strange bloom
I’m using an ISO Spanish layout, it came with ABS keycaps. Keycaps grip is very low. That with original switches stability make it a bad mix
stone elbow
has anyone here lubed with krytox 205g2 instead of 205g0?
stone flax
has anyone here lubed with krytox 205g2 instead of 205g0?
dont do that
assuming this is for switches?
stone elbow
yeah switches
stone elbow
oh is that for stabs instead?
stone elbow
gotcha 👍
tho it could be doable on switches, just harder
gotta be very careful to apply a thin layer
strange bloom
Geon raw he
Man, any other brand recommended? I’m based in Spain and shipping costs for Geon ones is almost same than switches price 🥹. I see ones from Raptor (he type)
stone elbow
raptor is also geon, might have more resellers maybe
untold wigeon
Some really cool perspective from a non gamer about our boards. Hopefully <@&476752926044454928> could see about implementing some of his programming ideas. He has some really interesting ones. Worth the watch.
strange bloom
https://youtu.be/IORAQLoWZgo?si=-IMJ9DaYaMfOLKQo
Will check, thanks for sharing
untold wigeon
Will check, thanks for sharing
Thanks for looking!
stone flax
https://eloquentclicks.com/products/raptor-he-gaming-switches?variant=4743037501...
different entirely
like two different generations of diff
tolerance improvements in raws, difference in total travel, having a semi-closed bottom design, etc…
glacial wind
Hummmm good to know, these ones are red, the raw model is kind of grey
Raptor is not as good
strange bloom
tolerance improvements in raws, difference in total travel, having a semi-closed...
Hummmm
glacial wind
You could wait for eu stock to arrive. Prototypist was getting stock soon wasn’t it
strange bloom
You could wait for eu stock to arrive. Prototypist was getting stock soon wasn’t...
You mean on wooting site?
glacial wind
You mean on wooting site?
No I mean geon has shops that order and stock his things in EU
strange bloom
No I mean geon has shops that order and stock his things in EU
Oh ok didn’t know
glacial wind
someone said Prototypist in uk was getting some raw he switches soon iirc
strange bloom
I’ll do that then, if there is no other similar recommendation
I’m tired of the original stability, with all respects it sucks. ABS caps don’t help
stone flax
I’m tired of the original stability, with all respects it sucks. ABS caps don’t...
?
wdym abs caps dont help
strange bloom
ABS grip is very bad
cold bloom
is that keebmat 60%, it looks too small for what looks like the tofu, should i g...
it fits my tofu but just barely, if I was gonna get one again I'd go 65%
strange bloom
That with a bad switch stability is a mess
stone flax
cap
strange bloom
Why
stone flax
abs can have texture, abs can have less, pbt can be slippery, pbt can be smooth
Abs =/= ungrippy lol
stone elbow
it fits my tofu but just barely, if I was gonna get one again I'd go 65%
Gotcha, i'll do just that then
strange bloom
I was told in this channel when I asked about keys grip, that ABS grip is worse than PBT (speaking about the ones that come on wooting) @stone flax
Isn’t this true?
I’d like to improve grip and I was thinking gonna change to PBT because of this
stone flax
generalizing caps materials to something like “abs grip worse than pbt” is reductive
fluid ravine
keycap shining be like
fluid ravine
exactly
both shines either way over time and both will be smoothen out
esp pbt
pbt is already usually smooth
strange bloom
generalizing caps materials to something like “abs grip worse than pbt” is reduc...
Probably, but that’s what I was told, I’m a newbie, just trust in what experts say here
fluid ravine
although gmk has texture again once the oil and sweat from your fingertip build up over time that texture is gone
so its a lose lose either way?
stone flax
idrc abt that part honestly
fluid ravine
yeah same
strange bloom
I’ve had my wooting since second batch, grip has always been bad
What keycaps would you recommend to increase grip?
fluid ravine
honestly not such thing to "increase grip"
unless you wanna put like grip tape on your keycaps then yeah lol
strange bloom
honestly not such thing to "increase grip"
More texture
strange bloom
unless you wanna put like grip tape on your keycaps then yeah lol
Hahahah no no
Kind of “sandy” texture? xD
fluid ravine
Sand blasting 👍
strange bloom
I have here a much more used Epomaker TH80 and keys grip is still way better
stone flax
Sand blasting 👍
some shined caps be grippy out of the box
sa/asa
if he doesnt mind non cherry
fluid ravine
PBT takes much longer to shine than ABS
strange bloom
if he doesnt mind non cherry
Original wooting is OEM right?
fluid ravine
And they usually have more texture but that depends in what and where you got them
fluid ravine
Original wooting is OEM right?
Yes
strange bloom
PBT takes much longer to shine than ABS
So my original simple “PBT grip is better than ABS” is kind of true?
fluid ravine
So my original simple “PBT grip is better than ABS” is kind of true?
Pretty much
But then it wont matter as overtime both will become slippery due to the progressive shine
strange bloom
The thing is that these keycaps had a “non-grippy” (xD) texture from day one, so it’s not due to use
fluid ravine
Both my GMK and GMMK key caps (Abs and PBT) had texture from out of the box
My GMK shined at 1 month but my PBT took prob 3 months? Shining on GMK was when I notice it was smoother but it felt better to me.
strange bloom
Hummm I get it
fluid ravine
Hummm I get it
I honestly didn't like the woot stock key caps as well
Not really the same purpose but the factor is there
fluid ravine
Both my GMK and GMMK key caps (Abs and PBT) had texture from out of the box
My G...
When my PBT became less grippy I personally didn't like it as much as my GMK. It was actually slippery
But it could just be how GMMK made their caps
Theres def better PBT key caps than theirs
fluid ravine
idk about u but shined gmk is grippy
Like j can feel the texture being smooth but it also feels better
stone flax
texture is loss but then theres almost a sticky factor
strange bloom
Man, life was way more easy when we had the original mechanical keyboards and we got wrist pain using them
fluid ravine
Man, life was way more easy when we had the original mechanical keyboards and we...
Lol
calm pulsar
texture is loss but then theres almost a sticky factor
I also found that
fluid ravine
GMK ftw
tawdry tree
Man, any other brand recommended? I’m based in Spain and shipping costs for Geon...
Out of stock right now but a lot cheaper when restocked: https://deltakeyco.com/products/geon-raw-he-switch?_pos=2&_sid=7db8d7f28&_ss=r
Also, you need to decide which sound profile you like, higher pitched/clacky (Raw HE, Jades and Neo Lavenders) or lower pitched/thocky (Black Knights, Raptors, 20Us and Lekkers).
strange bloom
So what's your plan now lmao
GMK if I find ISO Spanish and HE switches
Also I’ve found this event taking place IRL next Saturday in Madrid which looks interesting to test switches, stabilizers and other stuff in person, like normal human beings do. https://clackyfest.com/en/
Change language to English
On website
strange bloom
Out of stock right now but a lot cheaper when restocked: https://deltakeyco.com/...
OMG, thanks. I like a thocky sound, for sure. Like… fist knocking on a big tree, you know what I mean? Yep
tawdry tree
https://youtu.be/IORAQLoWZgo?si=-IMJ9DaYaMfOLKQo
Yes, analog’s benefits aren’t solely for gaming. That’s the target audience but there’s essentially infinite potential, redefining what a keyboard can do. We aren’t there yet though, far from actually.
strange bloom
toc toc
tawdry tree
OMG, thanks. I like a thocky sound, for sure. Like… fist knocking on a big tree,...
Then definitely don’t get Raw HEs.
strange bloom
Then definitely don’t get Raw HEs.
Fuck my life
But everything is better raw
Between black nights, raptors (who’s the psychopath in marketing?), 20Us and lekkers which one are the “thickest”
tawdry tree
Fuck my life
The Black Knights are great and inexpensive: https://a.aliexpress.com/_EHuLBMl
strange bloom
I love you
tawdry tree
Between black nights, raptors (who’s the psychopath in marketing?), 20Us and lek...
Definitely the Black Knights.
calm pulsar
they are also HELLA oiled up lol
strange bloom
But I don’t love aliexpress, so I’m in doubt now
tawdry tree
AliExpress is great as well, for things like this.
strange bloom
Hummm if you don’t have any problem with what you bought, yeah
Man I even do my groceries in Amazon xD
calm pulsar
Hummm if you don’t have any problem with what you bought, yeah
I personally got my black knights from aliexpress for like 25 bucks for 70
tawdry tree
Hummm if you don’t have any problem with what you bought, yeah
Yeah, for things like switches from this manufacturer, the quality is perfectly fine.
strange bloom
Yeah, for things like switches from this manufacturer, the quality is perfectly ...
I want the best ones (please don’t read it as if I’m an idiot)
strange bloom
Ok nice, and this manufacturer is a good one no?
I’ll go for the whole tape and burger modding too, regarding sound, but that’s another discussion
strange bloom
I personally got my black knights from aliexpress for like 25 bucks for 70
Yep that’s the price, it’s nice
tawdry tree
Ok nice, and this manufacturer is a good one no?
The switches are manufactured by Grain Gold and sold by CapTanJar which is positively reviewed seller on AE.
Grain Gold manufacturers Lekker V2s, Raw HEs, Raptors, Black Knights and many more.
calm pulsar
Grain Gold manufacturers Lekker V2s, Raw HEs, Raptors, Black Knights and many mo...
wait whaaaat
didnt know that
tawdry tree
wait whaaaat
A big playa
tawdry tree
Thanks <@316962913145323521>
Yw!
calm pulsar
A big playa
the big pharma, the big tech and now the big switch
strange bloom
the big pharma, the big tech and now the big switch
Hahahahaha
tawdry tree
Exactly lmaoo
strange bloom
Would you recommend buying GMK on AE too?
strange bloom
Hummm get it
Thank you for coming CapTanJar
We are on holiday until 22nd Feburary Beijing Time.
We will reply to you when we are back from the Holiday.
We will ship the order when we are back from the holiday.
I hope Feburary means August
LOL
Hahahaha this is why buying in AE is always an adventure
tawdry tree
Thank you for coming CapTanJar
We are on holiday until 22nd Feburary Beijing Ti...
Afaik if it’s “Choice” it’s shipped by Ali and not the store itself.
strange bloom
Afaik if it’s “Choice” it’s shipped by Ali and not the store itself.
Didn’t know about this. So choice it’s like FBA in Amazon
Inventory is on AE premises
tawdry tree
Yes, I believe so.
strange bloom
Nice to know, thanks a lot for all your help
glacial wind
@strange bloom keep in mind raw he are tighter
so while sound profile might not perfectly fit what you want, raw he are tighter than the other options
vivid totem
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strange bloom
Hummm with tighter you mean more stable on its movement?
glacial wind
i'd think for yourself if you want to sacrifice a bit of tightness for sound profile (and look up the sound tests to see)
glacial wind
Hummm with tighter you mean more stable on its movement?
yes
strange bloom
i'd think for yourself if you want to sacrifice a bit of tightness for sound pro...
My experience with sound tests based on YouTube videos is… not realistic
glacial wind
also what aligner didn't mention is also the hollowness of the sound of open bottom switches. While some switches may be deeper than raw he, a big reason people go for jades, raw he and similar closed bottom is the sound is a lot cleaner
it's that 'hollow' sound from HE switches that many people dislike
so end of the day you have to decide do you care more about a thockier but more hollow sound or a clackier, more distinct sound with tighter stem
but I guess you bought it already so it's too late now
strange bloom
but I guess you bought it already so it's too late now
never too late except for death
glacial wind
honestly i think the 'what sound do you like' question is a trap
because everyone new to keyboards says thock, then they end up with open bottom switches and don't realize why a lot of folks prefer closed bottom
strange bloom
I don’t like stock wooting sound and I like my epomaker th80 one
If that says something to you
glacial wind
if you don't like HE sound then you'll 100% prefer closed bottom switches
they're the closest we have to real 'mx' switch type sound
glacial wind
at least black knights are kind of cheap so it's not too much of a waste if you don't like them more than raw he
strange bloom
Life should not be this hard
I quit
Pleasure knowing you all
Nah. Joke
See you typing Aligner, please don’t fight for me
tawdry tree
Life should not be this hard
Lmao, you’re fine. Lekkers had an annoying rattle, neither Black Knights nor Raw HEs suffer from that. Hollowness depends a lot more on what you have in your case and between your plate and PCB.
strange bloom
I don’t even know what hollowness is
https://eloquentclicks.com/products/gateron-raw-linear-switches?variant=46738716819794. They’re in stock in this Spanish site suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
glacial wind
no those aren't he
tawdry tree
Dead inside ahh switches 😂
strange bloom
Fuck true
glacial wind
raw he is different from raw
glacial wind
I don’t even know what hollowness is
hollow sound is kind of like how you know when you press down on your lekker switch there's that non distinct kind of soft sound
which is fine but just it's not that sharp 'thock' or 'clack' sound people from custom keyboard land like
strange bloom
Oh I get it
glacial wind
basically the sound is a bit soft and sounds empty
a lot of that softer sound is because the open bottom switches don't bottom out against something the same way the closed bottom/semi closed bottom switches do
and the bottom out spreads out from the switch instead of that big 'thock' or 'clack'
strange bloom
Perfect explanation
Thanks man
Regarding GMK keycaps shipping, their site says: STANDARD SHIPPING
Shipping time for order:
Normally, it takes 15-25 business days to deliver the package to USA.
For others countries’ customers, please allow 15-30 business days of shipping time.
Have you experienced this long time when ordered?
glacial wind
where are you ordering from?
strange bloom
Spain
glacial wind
i mean what site for gmk keycaps
strange bloom
Their official website
glacial wind
yeah that's fake
glacial wind
buy from one of the guys listed on this page if you want gmk keycaps: https://www.alexotos.com/keyboard-vendor-list/
boreal heath
Any one knows if rakka plates are also compatiable with HE+ module?
glacial wind
gmk doesn't have an official website like that. they make keycaps then send them to these vendors that sell them. That official site thing is a fake site selling replicas
boreal heath
seems many plates are only made for the regular 60HE module with plate mounted stabs supported only
strange bloom
gmk doesn't have an official website like that. they make keycaps then send them...
Ouuuu I get it, thanks
tawdry tree
Any one knows if rakka plates are also compatiable with HE+ module?
I don’t think Rakka’s standoffs are in the same position as the 60HE.
A custom plate would be your only option afaik.
late solstice
Can someone share their 60HE with wooting’s black and white keycaps?
boreal heath
I don’t think Rakka’s standoffs are in the same position as the 60HE.
I was eyeballing and comparing the standoffs also from pics online which seems close enough but thats a fair point to be made as well, thanks!
strange bloom
gmk doesn't have an official website like that. they make keycaps then send them...
What do you guys think about dye sub PBT?
glacial wind
What do you guys think about dye sub PBT?
it's fine assuming it's decent dye sub pbt
realistically if it's done decently it still lasts an absurdly long time, so longevity shouldn't really be something to worry about there
it's not as good as well done doubleshot, but i worry more about the quality of the keycaps more so than whether it's dye sub vs doubleshot
i'd buy (and have bought) good dye sub design that matches what I want over worrying whether it's doubleshot or not
glacial wind
try to look for gmk sales
boreal heath
you can wait for omnitype (quite a reputable vendor) they have happy hour sales and it will be more affordable
glacial wind
you'll find places sometimes doing 50% off gmk keycaps
strange bloom
Don’t know if in my case is worth (not an enthusiast and first mod since I have the wooting more than a year and a half now)
glacial wind
mostly depends on the design you want
strange bloom
you can wait for omnitype (quite a reputable vendor) they have happy hour sales ...
I was checking their site now
boreal heath
otherwise, you may also look for Keykobo, domikey for ABS set that has a similar quality but again cheaper
strange bloom
you'll find places sometimes doing 50% off gmk keycaps
Oki
glacial wind
personally i prefer pbt but mostly because I don't like abs wear
boreal heath
otherwise, you may also look for Keykobo, domikey for ABS set that has a similar...
Mind you, these are brands of the keycaps and they have their vendors too like GMK
glacial wind
i have extremely sweaty hands so abs is no bueno for me
strange bloom
My priority is having better texture (grip) but I’m finding difficulties finding ISO Spanish
glacial wind
yeah finding specific language keycaps will be rough for you. that's a lot less options
strange bloom
Didn’t know it was so rare to commercialize
boreal heath
Didn’t know it was so rare to commercialize
https://eloquentclicks.com/products/gmk-clasico-keycap-set found this from quick google search but expect long wait time after group buy
strange bloom
yeah finding specific language keycaps will be rough for you. that's a lot less ...
I’d had gone for the English layout in first place if I had known this xD
strange bloom
https://eloquentclicks.com/products/gmk-clasico-keycap-set found this from quick...
Yep that site is an Spanish one
But I’d like not having to wait as much a usually in a group buy
strange bloom
i have extremely sweaty hands so abs is no bueno for me
Me too, no bueno at all
Ok I’ll go for the stupid question, board for an ISO layout is the same than for an ANSI one?
If so, I’ll go for ANSI English
I don’t need to see my Ñ to type it
tawdry tree
Ok I’ll go for the stupid question, board for an ISO layout is the same than for...
Different layout, a different board.
You can get any ISO set and it’ll work with an ISO board.
strange bloom
Hummm I saw some people in Reddit saying they just change intro keycap and that’s it, but sounds weird
strange bloom
You can get any ISO set and it’ll work with an ISO board.
Get it
tawdry tree
Spanish layout is ISO.
So ISO with ISO is fine.
ISO with ANSI cannot. Most sets support ISO and ANSI though.
strange bloom
Ok
languid kestrel
yeah you can just get ISO UK keycaps or an ANSI set with an ISO kit if you don't care about the legends
boreal heath
Different layout, a different board.
but the only difference between the 2 layouts should be in the plate and set
strange bloom
but the only difference between the 2 layouts should be in the plate and set
That’s what I read in Reddit from a Swedish user, so I asked here
tawdry tree
but the only difference between the 2 layouts should be in the plate and set
Plate and PCB.
boreal heath
Plate and PCB.
oh, didnt expect the PCB to be diff
tawdry tree
Between ANSI and ISO that is.
ISO is the same regardless if it’s Spanish, UK or whatever.
boreal heath
I guess its not the same for mechnical boards where the hotswap sockets can be in such a close proximity, so that makes sense too
otherwise there would not have been a ISO and ANSI option in the first place if the PCB supports both
tawdry tree
I guess its not the same for mechnical boards where the hotswap sockets can be i...
Correct, it might be possible for HE as well but perhaps the sensors are more on the pricy side. 😉
strange bloom
oh, didnt expect the PCB to be diff
I guess that Intro key in ISO fits two switches size, so in ANSI it’s two switches on the board
strange bloom
<:CatNyehehe:1275378767573024778>
Love this cat
hearty minnow
anybody know any cheaper alternatives to a tofu60 redux?
i was going to get the silver one with no brass weight, but after listening to how much of a difference weights make i think i should settle for something cheaper and get a case with a weight
languid kestrel
if you need even cheaper than the cheapest "good" case then I think you just go into aliexpress and gamble on the random clones and knockoffs there
hearty minnow
if you need even cheaper than the cheapest "good" case then I think you just go ...
do they ever go on sale?
languid kestrel
i don't know, you'll have to ask kbdfans
hard flower
I recently got the Redux on sale for under $60 shipped on AliExpress
paper bloom
anybody know any cheaper alternatives to a tofu60 redux?
The PSD 60
hearty minnow
The PSD 60
it's more expensive
paper bloom
it's more expensive
You can find one on ali express or kprepublic
paper bloom
it's more expensive
The OG one shld be cheaper
paper bloom
Ye
paper bloom
the cheapest one is 59 usd
\Just look for the tofu or the psd60 on aliexpress
hearty minnow
\Just look for the tofu or the psd60 on aliexpress
i will do this
okay nah theyre all more expensive
WELL
tofu60 it is
hearty minnow
yeah
paper bloom
AMERICAN
hearty minnow
im aussie
paper bloom
O then idk
paper bloom
okay nah theyre all more expensive
Then the tofu it is
hearty minnow
my first custom keyboard and it's four HUNDRED fucking dollars because of all this shipping 
but i assume that's below average price even for some people's first keebs
ocean widget
i think i spent about 400 euros on my wooting as well
paper bloom
Mines 700 AUD
cyan zodiac