🔧│keyboard_modding

[polar girder]

yeah cs2

and ow2 sometimes

[flat cobalt]

Ohhhh ok ok I might try to get the Cyber 4.0

[polar girder]

nice yeah. i've had several different prints from PMM. i haven't tried the new coating yet but have heard good things

[flat cobalt]

That's the ultracoating right?

[polar girder]

yeah

I want to try it

I just don't need any other mice rn lol

[flat cobalt]

I just got the Viper V3 Pro not too long ago vv as well lol

[polar girder]

man they need vv3 pro mods asap

everyone trying to find the cheap PCB to scale it

I want that good good

the sora is a good pcb tho

[flat cobalt]

They said soon on Twitter PMM

[polar girder]

yeah

I'm a mod on his discord, full disclosure

but just cuz i was hanging out lol

[flat cobalt]

Ohhhhhh nice lol

[polar girder]

yeah if you join his discord there's a coupon code actually

10% fwiw

but yeah anyway. i'm not trying to shill. just be helpful lolol

[flat cobalt]

No yeah of course, I just joined it lol. Thank you

[flat cobalt]

Went ahead and ordered the Cyber 4.0 so pricey

[polar girder]

yeah it adds up

with all the options lol

[cold bloom]

Got my study setup almost finished lol @harsh dove @fluid ravine

[flat cobalt]

Looks neat!

And even got the tums in check

[cold bloom]

always around somewhere lmao

[flat cobalt]

I love them, idk if they're a placebo for me at this point but I'll chew one when my tum feels upset lol

[cold bloom]

yeah same, I get acid reflux sometimes and need stronger meds but these usually work when it's under control

[mighty egret]

stupid question how do u press the windows key on wkl

[cold bloom]

my right control in this setup is programmed to windows

[mighty egret]

ahh ok

[cold bloom]

and it works as a command on mac

the bauer lite is nice for a desk I wanna move it around on and write/read, and also might get a thin travel case for it

so I can pack it in my carryon suitcase easily

[limpid helm]

little old me got some durock v3's and have maybe no lube

although the stabs im using right now are pretty sticky to say the least so i guess i'll get a taste of both sides of the spectrum

[twin magnet]

Guys, I just got a Wooting 60HE+ Keyboard (Not Module). Would the FR4 module swap easily with my keyboard? Thank you Guys.

Stock one is Steel.

[prime orbit]

Very easy

[uneven cradle]

Would involve removing all the keycaps and switches slightly time consuming not difficult though

[ionic breach]

you could prep it beforehand to make it more organised

save you some headaches

[paper crag]

Aqua control+ goated pad

I hit immortal in valo for the first time as soon as I got one of those

It's just a shame it soaks up dust./ dirt like no one's business

[flat cobalt]

Carry me in unrated

[paper crag]

I can't play unrated

Too much degeneracy

Speaking of valo tho the jiggle peeks you can achieve with SOCD on are absolutely insane

[flat cobalt]

I think I'd get pen shotted through the wall lol

[fluid ravine]

I'm home

[fluid ravine]

Ooo yeeee I like this

[paper crag]

LOL

Real

[rapid sedge]

I use to be a valo tap strafer and that was ass

and i tried to learn jiggle peak and it was rough

i hit plat 2 at least🥲🥲

[fluid ravine]

I straight up stop playing ranked

Like shit was not fun, like game would be too hard which felt unfair, yet the games was too easy which still felt unfair

[rapid sedge]

i gave up on ranked games after hitting top 500 on overwatch tbh

[fluid ravine]

[rapid sedge]

that was like my only goal

now i just play casuals🦧🦧

[cold bloom]

@flat cobalt I ordered the cable for now

I'm gonna get the keycaps later from deskhero

[flat cobalt]

Neat!

[flat cobalt]

Ohhhh yeah, that works out for you even better

[cold bloom]

yeah the shipping wasn't too bad on the cable either so win win

prob will get both in Sept anyway

[flat cobalt]

It works with the 60he right ?

Since it's c to a

[cold bloom]

yeah it should!

I'll likely keep the wooting cable around too tho

it's only 4 feet tho so I might have to use an extension with that for my mx build

I use an extension for my wooting normally too cause it's pretty far to my PC, but I just turn down brightness to 50% ish atleast

[rapid rampart]

welcome to aus lol

[flat cobalt]

Ohhh neat, my pc is right next to my desk sadly ;3; small room

[cold bloom]

I want to build a smaller form factor tower next, when I upgrade my PC/mobo next time and I'll put it closer

I just like having my usb cable on the left cause where the usb port is and it's obviously on the left of my desk

my PC tower is off my desk on the right on a side stand

[paper crag]

Jiggle peek with SOCD on or off?

Wait I'm confused lol what was ass

[rapid sedge]

no bcs rn i dont have my wooting

so no socd

i have a normal joe keyboard rn

[paper crag]

Ohhhhhhh

You tried to learn it with no wooting?

Yeah with no SOCD you realise how slow the human inputs really are of letting go of the opposing keypress

[rapid sedge]

yupp

well my inputs on overwatch were def above average

but i had no penalty

like in val or cs i have the inaccuracy

so i have to like have some rhythm and it is hard

[paper crag]

Yeah in any games like Val or CS you need to master timing

You have to use SOCD to get you into the correct angle for the gunfight too

As much as you can use it to wide swing / info peek

A little tap will stop you instantly

So

Once your figure out that key motion easy work

[rapid sedge]

well ya with socd i can just hold A or D and then tap the other

vice versa

[paper crag]

Ye exactly

[flat cobalt]

Whaaaaa!!

[marsh saffron]

nvm not buying them

[ionic breach]

all kbdfans are limited

it will only restock if the designer wants to

they are basically group buys

[harsh dove]

Yeah

[ionic breach]

only some which are really mainstream aren't limited

like the tofus

or the black on white / white on black keycaps

[quiet bay]

Why the good kits always gotta be limited

https://tenor.com/view/cat-stare-stare-funny-funny-cat-funny-cat-staring-gif-5991461082324993255

[ionic breach]

niche

[cold bloom]

then they wouldn't be so hyped

I guess

[ionic breach]

if it's themed, it's niche

[cold bloom]

part of the supply/demand

[ionic breach]

not everyone's taste so no consistent demand

[quiet bay]

I was planning on buying them in the future 😢

[ionic breach]

it's fine

[cold bloom]

you can wait for deskhero next month from Canada

[ionic breach]

you will probably come across another design

maybe one you would like more

[quiet bay]

Probably

[elfin garnet]

[cold bloom]

Can't wait for the cable and keycaps

even tho my bauer lite is red I think both will look unreal with it

and the cable will fit any keyboard really

[prime orbit]

I bought them

Www

[elfin garnet]

yeah I kind of regret not getting the cable now. I might have to grab that one too. I don't even know what I'm gonna use the set for. Need an acrylic gasket mount 60 case lol

[elfin garnet]

yeah I think the red and the white will look great

[cold bloom]

the bauer lite is my fave translucent case rn, but I agree they would look great on a polycarb or a smokey polycarb case

the xray protagonist they're selling is NUTS looking

https://wiredinstore.com/products/protagonist-x-ray-edition-pre-order

[polar frost]

yo what switches do you guys use

[cold bloom]

Geon Raw HE

60g personally

[elfin garnet]

I like both the bauer lite and the protagonist but I only buy keyboards I have use for. Best scenario for me would be if a polycarb/smokey polycarb/acrylic 60 case came out so I can grab another 60HE module

[glacial wind]

what about the cable though

[cold bloom]

yeah I feel you was just imaging some styles, I think there's an acrylic tofu?

[glacial wind]

https://wiredinstore.com/products/x-ray-cable?variant=45147560706202

[flat cobalt]

What about the Tofu acrylic :o?

[cold bloom]

https://kbdfans.com/products/tofu60-redux-case?variant=41473693253771

[flat cobalt]

Or needs to be smokey?

[cold bloom]

I think that would hit

especially with like the AoE rgb effect

[flat cobalt]

Oh wow it's live now 😮 it was on preorder yesterday

[cold bloom]

yeah it went up earlier a bit early

I got the cable for now but keycaps are coming to deskhero in Sept

but they didn't open pre-orders yet for some reason

[elfin garnet]

I messed up, because I woke up at 6.30 (my time) and saw that omni had released the set and that the international set was sold out already. So I found the first vendor in EU that sold it and bought it straight away and forgot the cable

[flat cobalt]

Low-key id like one to match it with the tamagotchi keycaps

[glacial wind]

i wish my hands weren't acid on abs keycaps

i'd buy the whole pbtfans xray set

but alas, abs does not agree with my hands

[cold bloom]

I'm not sure how mine will last, my alpha set I'm using with vior is kind of shining a touch and I did notice some shine on my left shift from gaming lol

but I kinda like the look of it personally

reminds me of keyboards when I was young

[flat cobalt]

Acrylic with these

[elfin garnet]

Yeah I don't mind the shine really. Think it's gonna be harder to see on a translucent set anyway

[prime orbit]

how is the wooting on backorder if it says its expected at the warehouse on july 26th

its the 30th....

[stark osprey]

I think the X-Rays would go hard with this aesthetically: https://kbdfans.com/products/holy60-case?variant=42374341722251 , don't know about the sound however, I am tempted to try.

The polycarb one though.

[cold bloom]

there's an acrylic one too lol

or pc yeah

I saw a sound test of a bunch of holy60s the other day I forget where

[elfin garnet]

I can't disagree

[stark osprey]

Yeah that new vid by leo something

[cold bloom]

yeah

[elfin garnet]

Does oring work in the holy case? I'm so done with tray mount

[cold bloom]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Yk8TBAarA8&t=1516s

[stark osprey]

Haha good question, would be a fun experiment. Im trying to grow the cojones to press buy on that Holy atm

[main mason]

idk what swtiches to go with for my wooting kb 😵‍💫

i want nice creamy silent switches

if that exists

nothing too loud

i def want a low actuation force for the switches

below 60g

i have boba u4t rn for reference

[granite comet]

become a RAW dogger

40-50-60g options

[main mason]

💀

https://geon.works/products/geon-raw-he-switch

these ones?

why these?

[glacial wind]

seems there's a 2nd batch of xrayfans later in Q4, omnitype allowing people to preorder lol

[main mason]

i dont want something too loud

itll annoy me when typing

is there anything in sound like the boba u4t?

theyre silent tactile switches

im fine with swtiching to linear switches, but i still would like to have that quiet sound

[ornate badger]

it has arrived

the stock stabs is 10/10

didn't lube it myself

[main mason]

what are my options in that case?

[ornate badger]

also foam sounds significantly better than silicon

[ornate badger]

thats what i used to use as well

rn im typing on my wooting

and it feels extrememly weird

[main mason]

Oh wow, What switches did u end up going with

[ornate badger]

jade

[main mason]

Why jade

[granite comet]

https://tenor.com/view/nodding-jidon-adams-jidion-yeah-yes-gif-26919143

[main mason]

Just to be clear boba u4 is the non silent version right

And u4t is silent?

I have u4t rn

But want to get wooting 80HE and mod it out

[ornate badger]

people says its the best

lol

[ornate badger]

u4 is silent, u4t is not

[main mason]

I have u4 in that case

[ornate badger]

ive used the u4 before

i really hated the feel of it

lol

[main mason]

Ye the feel is aight

Takes a lot of effort to press down on it

68g actuation force

[flat cobalt]

I was having fun just slowly pressing the switch down lol

[main mason]

I like the quiet sound tho

Before I had the Akko Ocean Blues

[ornate badger]

i hate slient switches, cuz its smushy af

[main mason]

And it was way too loud

[ornate badger]

im just not used to linears

[main mason]

I don’t like the feel of them much either

[main mason]

What about the RAW He

[ornate badger]

the default one?

from the sound tests ive heard

its scratchy af

i don't have it

[main mason]

Nah not the default one

The one from GEON

GEON Raw He switches

[flat cobalt]

It's the ones people are enjoying more than Jade's so far

Of course it's all preference at the end

[ornate badger]

huh

ive never heard of em

lmfao

[flat cobalt]

https://geon.works/products/geon-raw-he-switch

[main mason]

I think u have but misunderstood them as the “raw” default switches lol

The name is confusing

[ornate badger]

fuck

i like the sound of it

welp

[shy gate]

i bought it for 80€ 70 switches

[ornate badger]

can't be bothered to buy another set of switches

[flat cobalt]

Ohhhhh

[ornate badger]

jades are good enough as is anyways

[flat cobalt]

I went with the Jades because of the color if I'm being honest

[ornate badger]

not like ull be seeing it

lmfao

though i do also like the switch colors

[flat cobalt]

I will when I lube them and then never again lol

[ornate badger]

after lubing 4 sets of switches, i can't be bothered to do it again

so my jades are only factory lubed

which sounds good enough for me

tbh

[flat cobalt]

Gonna be my first time hopefully not too messy

[ornate badger]

gl

lol

don't do it on ur deskpad

just incase

lmfao

[flat cobalt]

Tyty! I'll probably do it on a piece of cardboard or something to be safe lol

[main mason]

what about GEON raptor?

R those good

[ornate badger]

i don't have them

though they sound nice from the online sound tests

[main mason]

Man idk what switch to go with

They all sound annoying lol

[ornate badger]

wait for someone to make a silent switch then

[main mason]

Ab to be waiting years

[old swallow]

@harsh dove oh yeah!

[shy gate]

what is the best case under 70€ ?

[flat cobalt]

I'd say this one

https://kbdfans.com/collections/case/products/tofu60-redux-case

I don't know though

[marsh saffron]

Tofu is well over 70 euro after shipping, tax, and import fees

Especially if you get the weight (highly recommend it)

[flat cobalt]

Awww :c I forgot about shipping

[shy gate]

yeah i like it but very expensive

[marsh saffron]

Worth it imo, but certainly not cheap

Honestly I'd just hold off on a case until you can afford/justify tofu + weight

[shy gate]

is there a other way to buy case ? aliexpress or amazone

[marsh saffron]

You can get cheap ones on Ali

Idk any names or links

Also can't speak for the quality

[shy gate]

or a can keep the stock version but i need a good sound maybe tape mod ? or more foam

[marsh saffron]

You can get a nice sound from the stock one

If you have the prebuilt/are getting the prebuilt, stick with the stock case until you can afford/justify spending the money for a tofu imo

That's what I did

Modding your stabs, more/less foam, tape mod, lubing switches, changing switches

All things you can do with the stock case

[shy gate]

ok can i put the O-ring on the keycaps ?

[marsh saffron]

Which orings would you be talking about?

[shy gate]

R-03

[marsh saffron]

To my knowledge any orings for keycaps is only for the keys with stabilizers

And it's only to remedy not having long pole stabs

[shy gate]

i found this

[marsh saffron]

I've never heard about it, but I wouldn't recommend it for an HE keyboard

You wouldn't be able to bottom out the switch would could impact the functions of some things

[ornate badger]

i have it

its great

[marsh saffron]

Yeah I love my tofu

[ornate badger]

also i wonder if someone will make a analog alpaca switch

[ornate badger]

my main problem is that it has 0 flex

[marsh saffron]

Try friction mount

Mine has tons with it

[ornate badger]

with the wooting?

[marsh saffron]

Yeah

I've got my 60he friction mounted in my tofu

[ornate badger]

hows the sound though?

cuz im quite happy with how mine sound atm

[marsh saffron]

Sounds pretty great to me

[ornate badger]

ok maybe ill try it

[ornate badger]

btw what switches do u use

and what plate?

[shy gate]

how long to lub 61 switch ?

[ionic breach]

depends

first time?

[shy gate]

yes

[ionic breach]

reserve about 4 hrs

[shy gate]

ok

thx

[marsh saffron]

Ws dashes + PC plate

[ionic breach]

can the xrays shine?

in general can these types of caps shine?

[flat cobalt]

Some people were saying it might be harder to notice

[ionic breach]

damn

in that case i might get a set

[flat cobalt]

They are really cool looking

[ionic breach]

im probably not going to use it anytime soon

[frail jungle]

Just sharing as I have no one else to share with eeeeeeee🎉

[ionic breach]

https://tenor.com/view/feels-so-holy-carson-lueders-holy-song-feels-so-sacred-i-feel-blessed-gif-21043392

[ionic breach]

maybe for a future project

[stark osprey]

Nice which color did you get?

[frail jungle]

I went with white, I was tempted by the purple, but white will do

[stark osprey]

Oh nice! Yeah I'm actually torn at the moment, was considering either the purp or polycarb

[jovial urchin]

Same I was tempted with the PC, saw a user post two of his holys, one being PC. looked good, ended up with the white too

Here is the pc pic lol I love it

[ornate badger]

silicone or foam?

[grave tulip]

anyone know how the raw hes compare to the black knight?

my sticky rices js started acting up after a few weeks, have to buy new switches now ig

[analog saffron]

Is your case the tofu 60 redux metorite gray?
correct me if Im wrong. Im new to modding

[harsh dove]

RAW HE are clacky , semi closed bottom 3.4mm travel and Black Knights are deeper, open bottom 4mm travel

[cold notch]

i run a pretty big o ring, no issues

[ornate badger]

yep

[analog saffron]

How do you like the color?
I wanna get into modding but Im still kinda clueless in terms of parts

Been thinking about putting the 60HE+ module in a Tofu60 Redux (White or Meteorite [no clue what the "new" white is]) with Gateron Jade switches and GPBT caps in arctic white or black ash (cuz I didnt fine any nice GMK caps in ISO german)

No clue if this gonna work out or not tbh

[ornate badger]

i love the color, think it looks great

though i recommend u get a case that matches ur keycaps

since this build uses dolch, it maches perfectly

[ornate badger]

ur doing the exact same build as me except the kepcaps lmfao

[analog saffron]

guess I know who to ask stuff then

[ornate badger]

https://kbdfans.com/products/pbtfans-x-ray

these with white case might look sick

imo

[analog saffron]

they do look sick

but arent they a tad bit darker than the white tofu60?

[ornate badger]

close enough? idk lol

[analog saffron]

well im not really gonna switch up colors. either case white + GPBT arctic white or case meteorite + black ask

guess I have to look into it a bit more

[ornate badger]

well its up to u, i think both are great choices, u might want to match it with ur pc desk or deskmat

etc

[analog saffron]

I want to get a new deskmat anyway so I will get a new one in either white or black

[granite comet]

get a boardzy editioj saturn pro best of both worlds

[polar girder]

lol what?

That exists?

[flat cobalt]

I'm gonna assume the new white just has glitter like the Meteorite

[polar girder]

Oh reg Saturn. Not Saturn pro

[elfin garnet]

https://tenor.com/view/fight-angry-mad-hit-kid-gif-27330018

Me watching boardzy’ videos and thinking «if this man flicks his mouse one more time.."

[rapid sedge]

there are white gmk keycaps that would look nice

[analog saffron]

do they have german/international caps?

[rapid sedge]

that i would not know but youd have to check that out

[elfin garnet]

Check out GMK Minimal. They have a DE kit

[granite comet]

doesn’t matter either way just use it as a matt

[granite comet]

have fun finding any

i looked for so long

[polar girder]

Doesn’t matter except you said it was pro lol

Knight Stab waiting room. Zzzzz

[mighty walrus]

https://youtu.be/sNT34c8a7sI

Can anyone validate the claims of this video?

[granite comet]

and most of lgg's line up is pro or not pro or some shit

[waxen canopy]

anyone know the best 3.5mm stabs to go my magnetic jades?

[harsh dove]

Have you used the jades on regular stabs already?

[waxen canopy]

Yeah just put them in and they work fine in all honesty but the space bar gets lopsided every now and then on one side because of the bottom out difference

they only did that when I had the pcb out of the case, they seem to be okay when in the tofu redux, but just wanted to look for input in case any issues came up

[harsh dove]

You can try small rubber o-rings on stab stems or buy long pole stabs, I’d recommend swagkeys knight long pole if you have the 60HE+ or you can get tx ap long pole plate mount stabs if you have the older 60HE model

[gaunt plume]

The Raptor HE Switch has a strong magnetic field, so that probably wasn't a good thing...

Also, a closed base improves the accuracy of the magnetic switch.
I have a SIKAKYEB HM66, the software on this keyboard has a feature that allows you to measure accuracy.
But the KS-20T Jade with closed bottom was the most accurate.

[mighty walrus]

Is the magnetic field stregth responsible for the data measurement reading shown off in that video?

Is higher number better, or is the wooting 60he targeting a given spec?

[granite comet]

https://keyper.au/product/snes-custom-keycaps/

I found this company down the road from me selling stuff

literally a rip off of those gmk ones for half the price???

[tidal frigate]

If magnet is too strong it could stop acuating key randomly

[harsh dove]

Where have you seen that closed bottom improves accuracy?

[granite comet]

should i buy the xrays is the real talk

[harsh dove]

Sure

[old swallow]

yes

[old swallow]

totally unbiased statement, not related to this at all

[gaunt plume]

There is a keyboard called SIKAKEYB HM66, and its setting software has a function that can measure input accuracy.
I tested many magnetic switches, including Lekker, KS-20U, Raw HE, etc., and Jade was more accurate.
Of course, I calibrated it every time.

[elfin garnet]

suddenly it's there lol

[harsh dove]

Interesting, I’ve also tested many magnetic switches using Wooting Analog Monitor, and I’m sure it doesn’t work the same way as the HM66s software but I never noticed any closed bottom switches being more accurate.

[granite comet]

aha, im pretty tempted to just send it

curious how it will look in a black case tho

[old swallow]

honestly, if you dont have to worry about the funds, then i would say send it

since it will probably not have an R2

i am thinking of using it with a Navy blue Neo65

[polar girder]

My dream of aluminum plate and aluminum keycaps still might come true

At some point

[granite comet]

round 2?

[old swallow]

yeah

i mean, they might. but PBTfans sets tend to stick with 1 round iirc

I was planning on using X-ray with my white Mode SixtyFive, but i kind of fell in love with this look whilst i was waiting.

[polar girder]

I wouldn’t plan on a r2

[harsh dove]

Yeah

[polar girder]

Might get lucky tho but yeah

[harsh dove]

Also this

Same thing

[old swallow]

i think they are doing quite a lot of the R1, but yeah. seems like no plans after this, but i think they will make enough for most people. since i think the waiting list on the KBDfans site was something like 2500 people already, which is a decent chunk more then usual

[tepid jay]

Could someone help me when I press the A key on my wootting 60he in valorant it activates the shift function

this only happens after an update]

[elfin garnet]

I got them to update my order so now I have the cable coming as well. Just have to wait til september to get everything lol

[fluid ravine]

Heyooo

[old swallow]

morning

[urban harbor]

the more I see GMK hi viz the more I think that's gonna be going on my wooting

[harsh dove]

I kinda want the xray cable just to have it but I already got a ghost cable recently

[urban harbor]

the color is just so insane

[old swallow]

ngl, the new Wiredin logo looks much worse

i get that its a wire, but like. the old one was nice and sharp

[harsh dove]

I prefer the old one as well

[old swallow]

wait, theres an X-ray edition Protagonist aswell.

[harsh dove]

Yeah

[old swallow]

and a bauer

wtf

[harsh dove]

Yeah

[old swallow]

so much

switches

whatduhek

[harsh dove]

Yeah Xray roller switches

[ionic breach]

not going to lie

the new wire looks like a hose

[polar girder]

Yeah same

[polar girder]

Want

[harsh dove]

lol I kinda like it but I think I’ll just stick with my ghost cable

[fluid ravine]

thats a nice white

berry berry clean

[harsh dove]

Yeah and it has transparent outer just like the xray keycaps

If you look closely

With white underneath

[old swallow]

its also a lemo connector right, but the wiredin one is just a straight cable no?

[harsh dove]

Yeah

[old swallow]

ghost for sure then yea

[harsh dove]

That’s why ghost is $100 and Xray cable is $50

[old swallow]

well, fair

but still

[fluid ravine]

im blind as a mofo but i think i see it on the wire

[harsh dove]

It’s like a clear snake skin

[fluid ravine]

Hey thats pretty noiceee

[fluid ravine]

But kinda weird thinking abt it

[ionic breach]

i would have bought a set

[night ermine]

Anyone know how long it takes KDB Fans to give you tracking info - I've had nothing for 3 days since order

[ionic breach]

if the delivery wasnt a 100 dollars

[ionic breach]

depends

[polar girder]

I’m hella curious about these

Are roller switches cool?

[harsh dove]

No idea

Probably feel interesting

[ionic breach]

was it in stock?

[night ermine]

Yeah

[ionic breach]

its normal

it will be sent to ur email

[polar girder]

Yeah lol could be sweet

[ionic breach]

when it starts shipping

[polar girder]

That’s ghost?

[ionic breach]

no

wooting's ghost is black anyways

[harsh dove]

Yeah

[polar girder]

Yeah that’s sharp

[polar girder]

Tf lol

[harsh dove]

Yeah the wooting 80He pcr cases are ghost and frost

Ghost is black and frost is white

[polar girder]

Ah gotcha

Yeah idk shit about no 80HE

[cold bloom]

I’m stoked about the X-ray cable, kinda wanted something cool without a connector myself

[polar girder]

Hurr durr 60% only form factor for me hurr durr

[cold bloom]

I love the lemo connectors but I find I never use them for fast detach or anything anyway lol

[polar girder]

Yeah I don’t like the connector personally lol

[ionic breach]

ngl scared to bend those

the outside plastic might leave marks

[harsh dove]

I doubt Randall would make something that low quality

Just don’t fold it like paper lol

[ionic breach]

probably lmao

still scared

[glacial wind]

cables are the worst to get into because once you get into them you need to start matching every setup to each keycap set

then before you know it you're buying a different cable for each themed keycap set you own

[polar girder]

Or you just buy one cable for the only
Keyboard that matters

[fluid ravine]

Or just have all keycaps that will match black

[polar girder]

lol atta boy

Now we’re thinking

[fluid ravine]

https://tenor.com/view/bts-bangtan-boys-bangtan-sonyeondan-bts-jin-jin-gif-17347270

[fluid ravine]

Wat dat

[harsh dove]

Yeah lol, I have a few cables but I mainly just use my nightcrawler which is silver and black like the rest of my setup

[tepid spruce]

For the RAW HE switches, would you need long pole stabs?

[fluid ravine]

Nope

[mossy rover]

just installed the raw he switches stock and they are way better than lubed and filmed jades 👍

[harsh dove]

I’m using stock wooting stabs with no issues

[granite comet]

lube or not to lube raws?

[harsh dove]

Really comes down to keycap tolerances though

[mossy rover]

dont need lube for raws

[tepid spruce]

Thank you!

[fluid ravine]

I personally dont recommend lubing them

I would only lube the springs

[granite comet]

fair call

[fluid ravine]

Ye, lubing them at spots like bottom housing floor or even top housing can dampen their sound signature like crazy

[rapid sedge]

im doing that tonight😔😔

theyre coming in today

[fluid ravine]

Thats why I dont recommend lubing them

Overall Geon chose a good spot which is the stem rail, and maybe the housing rails?

[rapid sedge]

gonna just dip mine in a fat bowl of lube

the whole switch

[fluid ravine]

yeah i might as well

Tho i only have one small dab of krytox left

[rapid sedge]

got a bottle of 105 coming tomorrow

gonna bag lube my springs

[polar girder]

Bag lube springs my favorite mod, low key

[glacial wind]

The only downside of bag lube is I get paranoid I didn’t put enough lube and always do 2x more than I need

At least one bottle still lasts ages even with the wasted lube though

[rapid sedge]

i think you usually just do like 4-5 drops in the bag and you should be good

cause i just use like those small sandwich ziploc bags

[glacial wind]

Yeah usually like 3-4 drops for a set is plenty. But then I get paranoid an always end up at like 8 for good measure

[rapid sedge]

lolol i feel that

thats like me with rusted bolts

just spraying it for like half an hour to make one turn on it

[glacial wind]

I actually don’t mind switch lubing, except the part in between each movie when my hands are oily and I have to click the next movie in Netflix

Just gives me time to rewatch fun movies

[rapid sedge]

thats legit my plan honestly

have netflix on my monitor have a rag on my desk and just get to lubing

but im getting raws so im just gonna lube springs

[fluid ravine]

Well better watch one episode of smth

[rapid sedge]

biggest pain is def gonna be opening them

just one by one by one

but itll be done🙏🙏

[fluid ravine]

me with my screwdriver

idk whats worst

[rapid sedge]

i have too many screwdrivers in my room🦧🦧

[polar girder]

Yeah I put in like 20 drops

[quiet bay]

dayum

[polar girder]

I haven’t noticed a down side

Idk

[fluid ravine]

I mean hey

More is more

Unless...

More is less

👀

[urban harbor]

this is the way, buy a single black cable

the x ray protagonist is pretty nice

damn expensive though

especially for plastic/alu/steel

[rapid sedge]

im gonna put the whole bottle

[fluid ravine]

I'd drink it

Eat the springs as snack

[rapid sedge]

nah lube the springs and eat them as a snack

just the whole bottle in the bag

[polar girder]

With my raptors I think I did like 35 drops lol

.5 drop per spring

[stray tiger]

Thats why you buy a white and a black and youre done

[polar girder]

lol right after I order black ano alu plate elsewhere

[stray tiger]

Tom is in our discord, should have just DM'd him!

[fluid ravine]

Woa really?

[harsh dove]

Basically what I did, besides the two copper cables I have

Nightcrawler, Ghost, Gentleman, then my custom copper patina cable

And I really didn’t even need the gentlemen , would’ve been fine without

[tawdry tree]

It has a fluctuation graph although I’m not sure if more fluctuation is caused by the switches’ magnets interacting with one another or if it’s a firmware thing.

Pretty cool nonetheless

[mossy rover]

anyone know who makes the best pom plates for the wooting

i have a pom plate from smkeyboards but it has a shit ton of marks and scratches

and it came that way

[harsh dove]

Ahhh gotcha, that makes more sense

I’d also just be curious to know how accurate it is

And how their calibration works

[fluid ravine]

the hell is this

thats interesting

another analog tester?

[harsh dove]

Basically but with more info it looks like

[tawdry tree]

Manual and continuous, similar to Woot but instead of using only the initial switch position it uses both, initial and bottom out.

[tawdry tree]

Yeah 😂😂

[stray tiger]

Sent you a DM for switch error/updates that you mentioned

[lone jewel]

is there going to be a switch plate with screw in stabs for the 60 he ?

[fluid ravine]

Wdym?

[polar girder]

Yeah the current plate that comes with 60HE+ and Module is screw in compatible

[fluid ravine]

Plates from wooting and others are already compatible with PCB mounted stabs and plate mount stabs

Although there's some that arent compatible due to housing thickness issue like staebies and tx ap rev 4

[lone jewel]

well i mean screw in like the 60he+ module

[stark osprey]

You sure you're not confused, cause the screw ins attach to the PCB

[lone jewel]

wait i just saw

[quiet bay]

Screw in stabs are for the pcb, not the plate

[polar girder]

Like you want the screw in Stabilizers?

[lone jewel]

sorry

[quiet bay]

60he does not support screw in stabs

[fluid ravine]

PCB Mounted Stabs are like Screw Ins and Clip Ins

Cus they mount on the pcb

[lone jewel]

yes but now i dont really know wich ones are good

[fluid ravine]

instead of "plate" hence the name Plate mount stabs

[lone jewel]

ahhhh

[rapid sedge]

ooo black aluminums

i mean xray

jesus my brain

ive been sniffing too mucb paint

[lone jewel]

all good

[rapid sedge]

wait

it is aluminum

[lone jewel]

okey

[rapid sedge]

holy shit im dumb

[lone jewel]

?

well wich ones now

[fluid ravine]

Are you looking for Screw in Stabs?

[lone jewel]

yes

[fluid ravine]

You want to replace the one that comes with the module?

[lone jewel]

no the normal 60he

[fluid ravine]

Ah

[stark osprey]

The normal doesnt support screw ins

[fluid ravine]

Yea

Unless you have the updated 60HE+

[lone jewel]

u just said it does

[fluid ravine]

?

[quiet bay]

😃

[fluid ravine]

[lone jewel]

whoops

[fluid ravine]

lol

[lone jewel]

well then wich ones for just plate mounted

[fluid ravine]

Stock wooting stabs are fine but if you want smth else then i guess you could go for smth like Durock v3
TX AP plate mounts work as well but a bit finicky with keycap thickness

And a bit with the plate

[lone jewel]

okey

thanks

[fluid ravine]

yup

[lone jewel]

should i buy the 60h+ or is it not worth it when i already have the 60he

[harsh dove]

Only difference is the newer module has the option for PCB mounted stabilizers

[lone jewel]

so not really worth

[harsh dove]

And I don’t believe they even sell the old module anymore, I believe all current 60HEs on the store are PCB & Plate Mount compatible

[lone jewel]

so i have a older one ?

[harsh dove]

When did you order it?

[lone jewel]

i pre orderd it when it came out

[harsh dove]

Oh then yeah

That’s the older one

[lone jewel]

ahhhh great

[paper crag]

Anyone have any fuckin clue how to use the Durock V2 soulmate pack

[jovial crescent]

It appears that I’m a moron

[paper crag]

Yes

[lone jewel]

there would be a alt gr there

[tired frigate]

worth upgrading stabilizers?

[lone jewel]

thats what it says on mine

[harsh dove]

You don’t have the 6.25u bottom row keys with big right shift?

[jovial crescent]

no, I mean the cap sizes for the bottom three

seems not

and the shift even lol

[lone jewel]

did u buy them for iso layout

[jovial crescent]

yeah

[lone jewel]

thats weird thern

[paper crag]

Cam you seen the soulmate tuning kit my man??

[jovial crescent]

I think the caps in this set are just not standard sized

took a glance at the pic and just assumed they would be

[lone jewel]

could be

from where did u buy them

[harsh dove]

I’m surprised your set doesn’t have both sets for the bottom row

[lone jewel]

right

[cyan zodiac]

you can buy AP plate mount stabs

i would recommend it especially the old wooting plate mount stabs and stock plate mount stabs are usually really bad

[fluid ravine]

Wouldn't say "really bad" but they're still workable

[lone jewel]

they dont sound great

[harsh dove]

Yours doesn’t have the extra keys?

[fluid ravine]

Do take notice that the TX AP stabs can have problems with keycaps thickness of 1.4mm and thicker from my perspective

[cyan zodiac]

they bad to me

i've never had any issue with keycaps tolerance

[fluid ravine]

What caps you use?

[jovial crescent]

nope. it’s a keychron set, guess they only ship the one

[cyan zodiac]

gmk

[jovial crescent]

annoying

[fluid ravine]

Yeah GMK works fine lol

im talking about like thicker pbt keycaps

[lone jewel]

where should i order them from

[fluid ravine]

Local Vendor

[cyan zodiac]

https://cafege.com.au/products/tx-stabilizers-ap?variant=44460424462581

[lone jewel]

i live in switzierland

[cyan zodiac]

oh

does switzierland have loval vendor

[lone jewel]

nope

[fluid ravine]

ruh roh

@lone jewel Are you familiar with any of them?

[lone jewel]

i ordered from kbdfans

and that worked

[lone jewel]

no

[cyan zodiac]

see which ever vendor gives you lowest shipping price

[lone jewel]

okey

[fluid ravine]

Wait is Switzerland in europe
idk my geography

[cyan zodiac]

me either

[lone jewel]

well kinda but also not

[fluid ravine]

I dont even know all my states xd

[cyan zodiac]

Switzerland lies in the heart of Europe. It shares its 1,935km-long border with five countries: Italy, France, Germany, Austria and the Principality of Liechtenstein.

[fluid ravine]

oh

[elfin garnet]

wow

😂

[lone jewel]

but it isnt really with europe

[cyan zodiac]

idk i just google it

[elfin garnet]

It's in the continent of Europe, but it's not in EU

[cyan zodiac]

either way just have a look around with vendor to see who will give you the best shipping prices

[lone jewel]

its more just there

[fluid ravine]

ah

[lone jewel]

yeah

well i have grandparents that i could ship to in the united states but wich website would u recomend then

?

[polar girder]

Well I saw his talk about maybe having it in the future for other keyboards and just figured I’d pounce

Oh well

Good to know it’s coming back

[elfin garnet]

try

https://www.mechmods.co.uk/

https://www.maxgaming.com/

[timid elm]

Does any one know how a poron switch pad affect the sound or performance of the wooting?

[fluid ravine]

Switch Pads acts like a switch sound acoustic modifier, unlike case foam being sound acoustic modifier (as in changes the sound of the whole board) switch pads modifies the sound of the switch. ( I can't explain it very well)
In terms of performance however, it's best recommended to use the thinnest thickness available, preferably 0.25mm. If 0.5mm is your only choice, choose the softest material (poron).

[cold bloom]

I had been using them before, they definitely mute the sound quite a bit, I didn't love it overall so I removed it but it didn't seem to affect performance

[polar girder]

I want to try switch pads

Seems up my alley

[cold bloom]

open bottom switches and switch pads LOL

kinda slaps tho ngl

[polar girder]

Fk now even the switch film from Geon is OoS

Could justify $5 item plus $25 on shipping so I missed out lol

[fluid ravine]

Yup they do

wait yeah @polar girder you should get some switch pads now i think abt it

The switch pads work well when i had the lekkers

[fluid ravine]

Someone has to make films for HE switches

Just incase just incase

Not that they need it but hey who knows

[cold bloom]

I found with the Raw HEs I like them more without the switchpad or plate foam, but I did like them in the salvation cause it's a brigther case

but I don't use either in it with the mx build so I'm weird lol

[polar girder]

I knowww

The Geon one is a fking sheet

I need that

Three diff materials? The heck

Glorious

[polar girder]

Nice thanks

[harsh dove]

[polar girder]

Poron looks good for me

[tawdry tree]

Gateron box stem but it’s a 37 series switch. 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

Useless 😤😢

[harsh dove]

Get that blasphemy outta here

Genuinely wonder why keychron went that route instead of just using Ks20s

Would make it easier for everyone

[tawdry tree]

Those LED x HE sensor combo too cheap.

Everyone’s using that shit

[harsh dove]

Yeah

[fluid ravine]

Yeah i used to use those

Poron Switch Pads from Cannonkeys

[tawdry tree]

It’s interesting, the box stem doesn’t look like it’s fat like most other magnetic switch stems.

[fluid ravine]

I threw away most of my switch pads cus they ripped when i took them off

I only have like 5 of them

ima put them on my ASDF to show a comparison in a bit

[polar girder]

Gucci

[rapid sedge]

time to open them all and get the switches out

[fluid ravine]

LESGOOOOOOOOOOOOO

ONE OF US, ONE OF US, ONE OF US

[granite comet]

lets gooo

@rapid sedge also

[rapid sedge]

sheeshh

ya im getting close to getting everything for my build

all thats left

[granite comet]

my cafege and ausmodshop order will update to the 5th of aug you watch and ill have everything and my wooting will like get lost in transit or something dumb

[rapid sedge]

nahh trust

it wont

[granite comet]

all on the 5th

[night ermine]

What kind of cable does the 60HE+ module come with? - is it the black and yellow one?

[polar girder]

Yes

[rapid sedge]

its a good quality braided cable ive heard

[polar girder]

Yeah it’s the same standard Wooting cable we’ve had for years

[sour flower]

big spring go brrr

[granite comet]

also went for the zebra ahh deskmat, gotta get that black and white bling

[rapid sedge]

your spring vs the spring she tells you not to worry abt

[sour flower]

yea i thought that joke as well

lmaoo

[rapid sedge]

not a bad idea

[rapid sedge]

couldnt help it

[rapid sedge]

ny wooting should be here on thr second no idea abt my gmks though

[granite comet]

already got no.5/1500 boardzy x2 zebra mouse

[rapid sedge]

let me hold onto it for you

[granite comet]

drop has good shopping tho

[rapid sedge]

hopefully i dont get import fees

[granite comet]

i was daily driving that thing till the mousewheel fucked out lmao

[granite comet]

was it a $$$ kinda order

[rapid sedge]

yup

208

[fluid ravine]

@polar girder

[granite comet]

idk what your countries imports are like but mine wouldn’t even want to care till 1000$+ aud

[rapid sedge]

i got hit with import fees on my raws and tofu 60

🦧🦧

[fluid ravine]

Sounds about right

[granite comet]

lmao fark that

[rapid sedge]

the lavender keycaps strike again

[fluid ravine]

Poron does dampen indeed, i mean like if we didnt know that xd

[fluid ravine]

All of my attention watching that video, sound and bounce

anyways

[rapid sedge]

my attention was thinking if it was lavender or grey

[fluid ravine]

lmao

[granite comet]

cement

[fluid ravine]

Yeah shit does make the switch sound slightly deeper

or lower pitched

alright taking it out now

[polar girder]

Yeah I ordered it

[rapid sedge]

I’m hoping the wooting comes with the poron pad or idk if thats just with the module

[fluid ravine]

Yes both does come with poron pad

[rapid sedge]

pog were so back

[fluid ravine]

Correct me if I'm wrong, iirc the module also comes with silicone pad

[polar girder]

Tru

[rapid sedge]

isnt that one pre installed?

or am i getting mixed up here

[fluid ravine]

Poron is always preintstalled

[rapid sedge]

i swear in the module the silicone pad was pre installed

[sour flower]

after changing switches (for wasd and spacebar) do I need to do any calibration or anything or am i good to go

[polar girder]

I’ve used 4 different types of switches and never calibrated

I’m not the one to ask lol

[fluid ravine]

alright am back

[harsh dove]

Correct

[fluid ravine]

Yeah nvm abt that

[gleaming crow]

Does anyone know if the salvation comes with foam and/or needs it

[fluid ravine]

Poron is on the side but comes with it as well

[harsh dove]

Module comes with both, prebuilt comes with foam

[rapid sedge]

ahh

thank you good sir

[fluid ravine]

Yeah yeah, i meant like the preinstalled one

[polar girder]

Right

Sure you did

[fluid ravine]

I just checked

[polar girder]

Mhmmm

[rapid sedge]

[harsh dove]

Yeah I got you, just sharing the photo for all lol

[fluid ravine]

[rapid sedge]

[fluid ravine]

https://tenor.com/view/bts-bangtan-boys-bangtan-sonyeondan-bts-jin-jin-gif-17347270

[harsh dove]

And the pc plates also come with both

Which when you think about it wooting pc plate is a great deal for $20, comes with both silicone and poron and built in standoffs, other custom plates come with nothing and have to get your own standoffs and are almost twice the price. Albeit if it’s a diff material then ofc price will be different.

[fluid ravine]

W Wooting

Woot Woot!

[harsh dove]

And if you buy the plate kit with a keyboard then it’s $10

[cold bloom]

doesn't come with it, doesn't really need it. I did use some plate foam with my wooting in it but it's preference.

[harsh dove]

^ and it doesn’t use case foam in general

But you can use the sandwich pads

[fluid ravine]

I just want a build with no like sound acoustic foam at all while maintain like bounce/flex with a good sound profile

Alexotos changed me mannnnnn

Bro's the reason why i went from Thock to Clack
Even though I'm in the Thack zone right now

[uneven cradle]

Would be good if it didn't cost almost double the price to ship it from the Netherlands

[harsh dove]

You got me there

Skill issue

[uneven cradle]

It is funny that there are 3 warehouses and the one furthest from me is the one that gets allocated

I'm paying like $34 USD for the 80he shipping

It be like that

[fluid ravine]

Idk why but i want a UwU for no reason

just to like use it for smth else xd

[stray tiger]

Macro pad

[earnest adder]

Hi guys, it might sound like a stupid question but are the he60 and 60he+ pcb interchangeable?

[rapid sedge]

Im buying one tmr

[crude kayak]

How long is the Geon Raw HE delivery time from Korea to europe ?

[stray tiger]

60HE and 60HE+? Same form factor yes

[rapid sedge]

i got it in canada from korea in like 2 days

[rapid sedge]

^^

so maybe more or less

but it is very quick

[crude kayak]

2 days is crazy that DHL plane is Speeding

[rapid sedge]

ya but i got hit with import fees kekw

so win/lose

[crude kayak]

how much ?

[sweet oak]

They have made it safe and sound, now all they need is an 80he

[stray tiger]

Enjoy sir!

[sweet oak]

i will enjoy them to the fullest

[stone elbow]

for the 60he module, which sandwich pad (silicone vs poron) sounds best with the gateron jades?

[main mason]

what swtiches do you guys go with?

also isnt RAW He south facing?

all wooting pcbs have north facing rgbs

[cedar gate]

Imo poron try both see what you like

[stone elbow]

gonna receive it next week possibly, just gathering opinions

[harsh dove]

No, you can orientate it however you want

[harsh dove]

Personal preference

I prefer silicone but also depends on case and plate material

[main mason]

wait so north and south dont matter?

[harsh dove]

Correct

[main mason]

doesnt it matter for the pin orientation...

that doesnt make any sense

[harsh dove]

If you want your RGB to work properly tho, use north facing

[main mason]

unless ur saying the bottom of the switch is symmetrical

[main mason]

yea thats what i was getting at lol

[harsh dove]

Right, but you can install them north or south is what I’m saying

[main mason]

so it does matter for rgb

[harsh dove]

Correct

[main mason]

gotchu

i honestly dont care too much ab the rgb but how would it look if u use a south facing swtich on a north facing pcb tho

would the rgb not be visible?

[fluid ravine]

It will be dimmer

Or the tint can change the color of the rgb depending on the color of the switch either way

[harsh dove]

I have a pic somewhere but not with the RGB on

[harsh dove]

It is just not as bright and looks kinda weird ig

[harsh dove]

This is with south facing

[main mason]

Looks fine ig

[harsh dove]

Yeah

[main mason]

Not as uniform but wtv

[harsh dove]

I couldn’t remember how it looked tbh cause I don’t use RGB

[main mason]

What keycaps are those?

[harsh dove]

Looks like pbtfans wob

Not my board

Take that back

That’s GMK

[uneven cradle]

You can tell because the mods aren't scuffed

Missing that shif t key

[prisma stump]

Clean as heck

[harsh dove]

Not my board, this is tho

[prisma stump]

Just as clean tbh

[polar girder]

Best switch opener and best switch puller?

Or nah

[untold wigeon]

https://tenor.com/view/tack-ninga-monkey-blue-tack-sharp-tip-gif-14754240

[harsh dove]

Gateron Switch Opener is pretty goated, that's the Wuque Puller , I like it, never had a problem with it, wouldn't mind trying the TX one though

[untold wigeon]

My switch opener

[polar girder]

Yeah that’s the one I just bought, the TX one

Have the Wooting kit one

Not a huge fan

[gleaming crow]

Is that a salvation case?

[harsh dove]

My only nitpick with the wooting one is that it's kind of thick vs the Wuque one, and I feel like I scratch my plates more with it idk

[harsh dove]

Frog Mini, but I have a Salvation too

[tawdry tree]

Best puller is the one you ordered, you’re good. 😅

[harsh dove]

Yeah the TX one grabs the top of the entire switch, so wouldn't mind trying it out

[uneven cradle]

I have this and love it but heard it's not so good on long poles

[tawdry tree]

Being able to pull up to five switches or so and dropping them all at once in a container is fantastic fucking tastic

[harsh dove]

Really? I have long pole mx switches and haven't had an issue

[polar girder]

lol yeah I got that Geon plate fork thing too

Tired of pulling the plate up around the switch

[harsh dove]

Oh yeah that too, you can grab multiple switches with it

[tawdry tree]

Don’t know how well that’d work with Woot’s plates though. Those have all kinds of little pins and slots on them.

[tawdry tree]

Yeah. That’s the best part about it to me.

[flat cobalt]

Oh wow my Tofu and Jades came a whole day early

[polar girder]

Yeah it’s a solid custom one

Might be alright. Was $4 either way lol

[finite dust]

anyone recommend good places to get quality keycaps?

[tawdry tree]

The stem holder is pretty neat too.

[rapid sedge]

switch opening begins

[wooden pumice]

can someone help me please? im a new wotting user and i make the update for the beta version to use SOCD? It's normal the wootility app doenst show up the new update? I just can enable SOCD via web? This apply this new system? ty all

[main mason]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ThsZE1Y9XY&ab_channel=Carter

what switch should i go with to get this type of sound hm

ik that switch isnt the only thing that matters when it comes to sound

its a combination of stuff

but everythign else are constants right now

like the case, stabs, foam, etc...

thatll be the same regardless of the switch i go with

[uneven cradle]

Idk reading up it seems like softer stem materials are what break

[untold wigeon]

@harsh dove what was you final verdict on Jades vs Raw?

[main mason]

that seems to be the consensus

either ppl are going with raw or jades

why not any of these 😵‍💫

theres so many options

[uneven cradle]

Most of them just ain't that good

[cold bloom]

Raw HE gang

[harsh dove]

Yes, you must use the web app to enable SOCD , it's not build into the desktop app yet.

[harsh dove]

Raw is better

Sound is subjective

[main mason]

hmm

[harsh dove]

but feel and tolerances are objectively better

[main mason]

i need a video that compares teh sound of jades vs raw

[untold wigeon]

Ty. I think I’m grabbing some tomorrow