#🔧│keyboard_modding
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Hello cammie
monokei has some jjk double shot pbt keycaps
I was testing switches for hours last night lol
Magnet compatibility
Why doesn’t it cover the spacebar? My plate from them does
No just in general
Oh you bought new switches and you are adding them to list
for the wooting?
Yeah
have you tried the everglides sticky rice and ws dash switches yet
No
i heard those sound a lot better than the other magnetic switches
What switches did you test
Well dashes are just jades
Nothing different about them besides color
And the v1 Sticky Rice isn’t compatible with wooting but the V2’s are
the dash does have a shorter travel i think
the same travel as jades, but both are shorter travel than lekkers
^
oooooo ic ic
And idk too much about how the sticky rices sound in regards to the V2’s
well they are cheaper than the jades
Yeah they are unless you get Jades on AliExpress
I think they’re around $40
Just don’t buy jades off Amazon lol
Overpriced
but how much would shipping be
Compatible switches list would be available on wooting website?
I’d have to check, I think shipping is fairly cheap
Mainly just updated here in the #🪛│modding_faq but possibly in the future the website will have one
Well it is impressive that wooting have so much switches that are compatible
Id recommend waiting for the Lekker v2's
If not get jades if youre not in for the wait
Depends rlly where ur from and how fast u want it
Sometimes shipping can go as low as 20 bucks
I already have og 60he
I meant the switches
are there any other cases that work well with the wooting 60he other than the tofu redux
I'am fine with l60s v1
Yes
what are they
Here

They will have even more in the future after firmware gets updated more and more and the 80HE will have a better range for compatibility compared to the 60HE
Compared to other companies it is fucking amazing r&d job
Do you have or are planning to get an aluminum case
Yeah, eventually the Wootility software will have a switch selector option
Leaked
planning to
Ah ok
The alumaze or the tofu?
trying to see all the options possible first
If you want a simple but premium feeling design I would go with the tofu
if not probably the tofu ig
@harsh dove did you get leak diease from calder?
If you want something a little more complicated with an accent piece and a carry strap I would get the alumaze
This has been well known since the beta of rappy snappy
It isnt leaked
Can u link it
The reason I asked js you can get jades for a discount if you get the tofu
its gonna be priced as the alumaze
Nah it’s known info lol
Oh it's sold by wooting?
Yes
Just saw a pic looks like tofu with bezels 🤣
The tofu is a 7 degree
and theres something cool with it as well
Instead of a burger mount method its runned with something way better
MORNING 
But its close to the burger mount
Ig low profile is cool
MORNING
is the alumaze60 worth it tho
I've been up for 6 hours...
@harsh dove so if someone is whining that wooting sucks saying that wooting supports 90% of he switches is enough?
It's good but I personally prefer the tofu
For now no but its a personal preference
well uh good afternoon?
I used to run the tofu but i left that due to the high degree
;D
Naw I just wake up super early lol
Idk about 90% but yeah they support quite a few lol
i could never
There is no a lot he switches
im rockin a neo65 with an 8 deg typing angle lmao
Yet
There’s about 50 give or take
Lmao
And wooting supports atleast 40
If we compare the supporting its atleast 45%
I like the high degree in a tofu as a taller guy so I run that
strictly adding and account to modding
O whoops wrong reply
They support 19 out of the 48 we have listed currently, the rest are either untested or are not compatible
I like the op case more than the alumaze for now
Oh
The reason I never got alumaze is that it just looked so busy and I liked the simpler look of the tofu
But this one looks nice and basic
do you guys think the wooting 80 e looks good?
It does
Alumaze is only good if you make custom strap
If you ask me but the reason im not running is cuz i have the lack of space
surprisingly looks way better after they moved the arrow keys
Idm the arrow key really im used to anything thats given my issue is mainly space and the compactness
Not a fan of the bar but yeah
Or a 65
I'm just not an rgb guy tbh
right now i have the wooting 80 preordered so im not sure if i wanna back out and get the 60he instead
Yeah I would love a wooting 65% because I use the arrow keys for typing up reports
im fine with the arrow keys if you ask me
Esp with or without i just want the delete key
and the pg up and down
What do you use the keyboard for
- i can use 65% cases which are compatible
MT 👍
?
mainly for gaming and the arrow keys
Mod tap
What games
def valorant
👀 👀 👀 👀 👀 👀
Oh lol I thought mobile terminated
K how big is your desk
That would be lit af
I cant lie
Esp with the maglev system
i have a pretty big mousepad on my desk
900mm by 400mm
I think your good with 80he
No the desk like do you have space?
yeah
K and you like the rgb bar?
it looks alright imo
Yeah 80he is good for u then
Dan at work 👍
Must need to see maglev with HE now!!!!!!!
Bro you can make ur own as well with the proper shielding and tools
LOL
HELL YOU CAN MAKE IT ENTIRELY OUT OF WOOD and THEN MAGNETIZE IT
If some dude sells a melatrix u cld legitly strip it out

Thats how insane it is
If I order the Lekker switches, are they the v1.5 or v1 currently
I cannot find the information anywhere despite scouring through the discord
Currently its still v1
The new ones that will be selling individual packs will be v2's
Sooner or later
The 1.5's will be in the prebuilds tho
No
Lol I need woothelp role
say
I need the kids role 
for geometry?
super fking soon
I need to schedule it
V1.0 are in twohe and 60he 1.5v are in wooting uwu v2 will be in 80he and later it will be in every wooting keyboard
Damn gl
@steel hemlock
cus im not taking this course at my school
Keep cramming and carry on
Thanks
No problem
So no point ordering L45’s until V2 is out if I have L60 V1
Could just spring swap
oh i get the score right away
Springs are the same. Tolerances are diffrent
ok
anyone else preordered the wooting 80he
Why you are asking
why not 
Yeah that’s the point ima order just springs since new switches aren’t out yet
Until they’re out
Plenty
wym lol
was bein sarcastic 
Currently have L60s that came with my 60HE. I’d want to either spring swap to L35 or L45 springs
I’d usually wait for the V2s as I’m using Jades mainly, but they’re for my friend who’s ordering a wrist rest today
So instead of paying 20$ shipping for the wrist rest and another 20$ later, we’ll just buy everything today
im p certain your jades can fit the old L60 or the current L60 springs if u did a spring swap
if not a L45
Which will be kinda interesting
I have L60 springs in my Jades so yee
Have u done spring swap to the 45's?
@glacial wind did your RAW's arrive and did you test them out?
Or is it incompatible
I don't have L45s so nope
But how does it feel for the jades tho with the L60's
Much better than stock imo, but stock just feels super light
Yeah but I’m happy with my stock jades, it’s for the second keyboard I built for my friend
He had a much lighter Mx keyboard prior
Ig its the travel distance
That might explain the spring ping I was getting then on almost all of mine. Thats odd considering one of the delays Geon stated was to fix the lubing method they used.
Lubing his batch im assuming
Hmm werent the yt reviews saying that theres no sign of spring ping as well?
Oh wait it was a prototype
Thanks @geonkr
GEON's first HE switch of RAW brand.
GEON Raw HE Switch https://geon.works/products/geon-raw-he-switch
Keyboard: Holy60 https://kbdfans.com/r?id=dqb9b3
Keycaps: PBTFans Fairly https://kbdfans.com/r?id=hglejt
Stabs: TX AP Stabilizers https://unikeyboards.com/products/tx-stabilizers-newest-2023-almost-perfect-edition?sca_ref=37...
Not sure about that but Geon himself said he was making changes to the springs and lube method to reduce ping.

Probs increasing more
lube and perhaps running a diff lube base?
I mean the lube does look really good from sno's pic
wait whats the travel distance of the RAW?
Oh wait i still dont have a switch opener ;-;
I checked like 2-3 switches from each bag and when hard pressed slightly off center there was noticeable ping. Other than that I quite enjoyed the sound in hand.
:D
Thats good
3.4
yup
WTF
Said by video and specification
Mans rlly be running a holy60
I mean that's good tho
Wait are these available
I love them
Yes
There are pros and cons
V2s are boxed stem Neo Lavenders. I think housing materials are exactly the same too.
I agree
There are pro's and cons about the holy60
Right okay, I think I remember you saying that
Wait so shorter than the jade by .1?
But to me the main focus with that board is just the switch sound itself since the case is so opened
the last thing you want is a dead board due to humidity or if not down the line things are gonna snap as well as water damage from real time liquid
We consider Lavenders and Knights as V2’s right?
THEN I MIGHT AS WELL GET YOU THE HOLY 60 THAN THE OPTIMUM CASE 😂
Ugh my Razer mouse is having scroll wheel issues. Moving both directions on single direction scroll.
I mean specification sheet it says 3.5mm but some tested and it turned out to be 3.4
KLJHFDSJLFKDSAJKFL;SAD
same on my pulsefire haste 2 ;-;
If u got a warrenty Run that if not idk, i used to run razer mice till i ran a lamzu
I barely got issues on my lamzu for like 8 something months now
oh true true, but i meant the testing in the video
im thinking about swapping out to the ninjutso sora v2 once its done
O ya
You know what best method is to run duct tape and tape the sides and boom humidity issue sorted
Oh btw for anyone curious, the standoff less build is Not Recommended, as it does loosen overtime as I expected
Which one?
The holy60?
reviews finally in?
Just in general I would think but in the frog mini
Hm so long as theres no clashing of steel or too off handed things i think it shld still be ok
Just the top housing and stem for Black Knights and bottom and top housing for Neos.
apart from the constant key smashing if you smash to heard and ur plate bends in
Then idk
Oh really? Already? 😬
But yea still wear and tear
Yeah
Thats why traymounting to a gasket mount assisted tray shld cook
Or something of that sort
You think it was because of the PCB mounts? Or even with plate mounts it’d happen?
Well I was thinking plate mounts would but better but I tested it and the stem from plate mounts still hits the PCB and pushes on it
Oh interesting.
Kind of odd, the guy’s statement made it seem like it was something easy anyone could do and would work..
Haven’t tried them out properly in a keyboard yet, but I did spend the day fully hand lubing the stems to spread the lube evenly and bag lubed all the springs in mine today lol
Yeah idk
I’d be curious to see if he still uses it like that
And if he actually tested actuation
Yeah same
Yeah I just don’t know if or how that’d hold the PCB and plate together any better
A bit of force under the PCB maybe, I’m not sure if it’d work in practice
Btw thru my hours of switch testing last night, the Neo lavender magnets are really good
I’d almost say on par with Lekkers in terms of performance and accuracy
Was there ever a magnetic flux listed on the lavenders?
I know the raw he seem to be closeish to jades from geons spec list, but I could never find anything for lavenders
Not that I’ve seen listed, in our data it’s listed as unknown
Why so many snappy tappy names
Ig it gotta be tested labratory style
@steel hemlock
I have joined the snappy gang
@fallen crag ur official title now is the rappy snappy cardboard commander LOL
Big cutout doesn’t cover most of it
Ahh ok was curious if you experienced any spring ping prior to lubing.
Same thing with foam. Just kind of a big void underneath it
I’m curious about spring ping as well
Yeah foam and silicone both have that void from most of the inserts I’ve seen
Which I think would help in the case of the frog mini spacebar
After we were joking around yesterday, I think I might actually take my 2nd frog mini and try it with the stock plate and no standoffs, but put a Sticky Rice in the 4 corners to hold it tight
Yeah I don’t wanna completely disregard trying it more and experimenting so I’m not gonna write it off just yet haha , I’ll be interested to see what you get
It’s audible, sometimes. I don’t think it has much to do with the spring cause it’s still with an L60 or dual stage.
So far , the dual stage springs have been the best in regards to spring ping, at least with what I’ve tested
And that’s factory lubed
Not saying they don’t still have ping tho
I have 3rd party dual stages and I don’t have Black Jades yet to compare, they are good though.
Yeah, same store that sells the regular springs too.
Ofc
I dont typically enjoy dual stage springs but maybe they can release a spring pack for them
What do you not like about them? Just curious
When did Thock get mod?
Yeah i was just about to say 
I guess I’m just not that observant
...
Thockson and Thockfather are different by the way, if that’s the reason.
I’m aware.
😂😂 alr
I’m different too
Youll have to post pics, I dont own that set
hope you'll be able to see your keys when they are in stealth
Missed this. I think its just a preference/comfort thing. A more consistent force is what Im used to but I do have some dual spring switches such as KTT bluish whites, that I enjoy.
I like dual stages more because of their consistency throughout the press. Instead of initial light and heavy near bottom out.
Very understandable, yeah the dual stages have more resistance until you reach the “middle” then smooth out again at the end and then they have that snappy return after release which I like
I think you're cooked

Yeah as with anything its preference
lmfao
real and true
Oh that’s unfortunate. This is how he made mine:
(about dashes and jades) 😂
lol
Who needs spacebar rgb anyway?
Literally
The keyboard hobby is the most subjective hobby I know of that people tend to speak the most objectively about. Well maybe the audio hobby is close
mhm
I think every hobby is like that tbh, it just depends how many different factors there are and with keyboards it’s quite a lot.
At least with audio you can provide very objective measurements but even they use terms like "fuller" "natural" "realistic" instead of "creamy" "thocky" "clacky"
are there any known dual stage springs apart from black jades for HE?
Not me that’s for sure lol
Thock and clack measurements when?
Have a thock meter
And clack meter
Cream meter
No one wants to hear of your “cream meter”
Only the 3rd party ones I have. I don’t think Gateron uses them in another switch as of now.
got a link?
^
I got Raw HE’s coming in on monday. I wanna use them with dual stage springs off the rip. Need to find a store that ships to me
I’ll probs spring swap mine too but we shall see
fk only 48 and 35 grams
AE doesn’t?
For now.
Is that start or end force?
Totally
(no)
They have a variety in regular and extended springs.
(I'm literally checking every minute for an update)
I think the ones you linked do. Thanks
Yw!
thanks❤️
Those numbers would make more sense if so
I’m still surprised how fast they said they’re gonna arrive
Like 3-4 days
They aren’t crazy light and I used 35g
So probs 50-55gf end
could be less honestly, I’ll test later
I JUST CHECKED THEY'RE IN THE STATES RIGHT NOW LMFAO
😂
Yeah see
nah fr though
For that cost they better travel around the world
Experience life before they get to me

Do you live in CO?
Yeah
ayy you're my upstairs neighbor
bet
hope it doesn't take long
nah but like how tf did it take so quick for them to get here
Like i aint complaining but damn, thats one of the fastest out of state/country shipping ive ever seen/experience
Huh SHOP said it will get here by the 22 but DHL says 21
got me the 48g ones, I assume this is going to be stronger than black jades springs
my keycaps when I install 100g springs
I say trust the shipping company instead..unless Shop is all-seeing
Always trust official carrier over Shop
Shop is usually behind a bit
Until the day of delivery but even then sometimes they don’t know
Once had shop mark my order as delivered over a month later than I got it 
All I ever use shop for is keeping my tracking codes in 1 place to easily get to the courier website
Only thing it's somewhat useful for
@uneven cradle how did it work out
Dang that’s wild
yurr
Just woke up, will be building once I get home from work in ~10 hours
noice lol
Rndkbd sent me a little switch keychain and a switch with my stabs I ordered lol
black jades should be here tomorrow
I'm hoping DHL delivers my raw HEs today lol
they just got processed so there's still hope
Idk why anyone would use springs more than 65g lol
Maybe that's just me trying to reduce fatigue
I would :D
I like my springs from 60-70 grams
preferably 65
I like the 50-60 range a lot
I wanna try 80s in my dashes
I wait for l200s
l 1kg s
Because l100 are too weak
Randall from WiredIn is such a legend, I ordered another one of his desk mats that are on pre order and he got it shipped out the next day for me instead of having to wait 😭
Kinda funny too cause I ordered it and asked him how long it’d take since he already shipped out a big shipment and then he was like I might have an extra, then all of a sudden it’s shipped the next day lol
Wierdln?
WiredIn
Themed cables are coiled or straight mechanical keyboard cables designed to match a particular keycap set, keyboard, or both. All cables are handmade by Wired In, in New York, United States. They are designs from the same materials available through custom orders unless otherwise stipulated via 'limited edition' or exc
Oh
that's some good customer service
Wired in
Ok even those cables are like sick and everything, damn $100 is wild to me
otherwise they look sick
yeah not cheap but they look really solid quality
Wanna grab one so bad but dont wanna buy before I have the perfect keycaps
Can confirm they are extremely solid quality
lol!

LOL This is dope
Did you make that or was it already made in another server?
candykeys server
What are the standoffs for that come with the tofu redux and do I need to instal them
Just played a 48 round val match 🤣
LOL no thanks
Camaro?
Mb lol looks familiar
you're good, I've never seen a camaro key tho
just meant I wish it was a camaro lmao
although I'm more of a corvette guy
No one will ever guess mine. lol.
What are the standoffs for that come with the tofu redux and do I need to instal them
Fr wish I had a ss
toyota prius 
can you show a photo? if you're doing tray mount you'll need atleast the 4 on the corners, the one in the middle you don't need and the spacebar one is optional
I wish I could get Prius gas mileage
I’m going to burger mount it
But idk what the standoffs are for
They are optional, it’s for the spacebar standoff, middle one is not required for wooting PCB, however the spacebar one is also optional and not required
The spacebar one isn’t required? I never knew this.
No
I never used it mainly cause I didn’t like the sound so I always just used to top left 2 and top right 2
Yeah tray mount in general is not the greatest for sound
Where the PCB is screwed into the plate causes dead sound spots
Where it sounds different from the rest of the board
Hence why people burger Mount or friction Mount
To give a more consistent sound profile
Yes put one in the space bar screw and one in the middle screw (I don't use the middle screw tho)
The spacebar one is very required in burger mount
You can try for ten years but you will never get the screw in without the standoff I would know I spent a whole afternoon on it before I realized I need the standoff
Well the spacebar standoff is required regardless if you’re going to use it for the spacebar screw for the PCB. But the standoff itself is not required if you don’t plan to use the spacebar screw
Or in other words, if you want to screw in the spacebar location, then you need the standoff installed. If you’re not gonna screw in the spacebar location, then it does not need to be installed.
Oh lol does anyone do that?
Myself lol
I would to
I don’t like the spacebar screw
same
If you burger Mount then it’s better but even with Burger Mount I don’t use it
Maybe that's why my space bar sucks
I asked tuanv and he said I should remove the tape mod for my spacebar maybe I'll do both
Btw if I remove the screw is there a reason to remove the standoffs or should I just leave them sitting
Try that too
If you haven’t
I’d remove the standoff as well just in case the PCB decides to smack it while you’re typing
K
The tadpole mounts on the PP plate I got were a real pain to pull through the hole
Really?
Pc?
Holes too small on the PP?
Polypropylene
Had to use a lot of force and twist to get them through, the stock aluminum plate was just pull through 0 effort
Not Polycarbonate
I don't think those were tadpoles...
😏
Yeah both my custom plates work fine that’s odd
Idk where you got yours tho so
Tolerances difference wouldn’t be uncommon
Pp plate was from cafege, they get them custom done
But yeah the holes were just a little bit too small
I made it work but my fingers were feeling it afterwards 
Polypropylene is kinda just softer flexier pom
Ik what Polypropylene is but I never heard someone call it pp💀
Other then that the plate actually feels super solid and good quality
Way better then the PC plate from aliexpress 
Instead of custom cutting why didn't you just go pom it would have been a lot cheaper and easier
Oh okay lol yeah most plate seller mark it as PP for short
That's cuz ali express pc plates are just made from recycled pc parts 💀
I didn't custom cut it, they offered the pp plate as an option
That was a gpu plate
It was already made before I bought it
But you said...
Yeah they get them custom done and offer them on the website, not to order but they have bulk stock
yeah I would do the top two
Can you circle which ones
In like paint or something
yup one sec
screw into those spots, I thought the top 2 that are in a bit might have needed a standoff but like I think Cam said earlier the ones they include you can screw in are optional if you wanna use the 2 spots I didn't circle. The one in the middle isn't recommended for the wooting as it can mess up the PCB I believe, the bottom near the spacebar is optional but like others have said above I prefer leaving that one out as well
so you don't have to screw in any of the standoffs, just screw the small screws to hold the PCB in into the spots I circled with the burger mount
alright thats really helpful
tysm
np!
Will be cooking shortly
make sure to season with lube
Now I’m getting jealous. Everyone is getting their Raw switches in
@stark osprey can I see those pink and purple caps? Bottom keeb please
How do they sound
Was thinking of picking some up but I do enjoy the sound of my jades
ikr, I want to order them but I already committed to this full black jade/knight switch look 😄
If I can sell my dang gpu I’m going to get those and the Holy60 and try my mod idea for that case
I may just throw up an unlubed video for now, gotta be somewhere in 1hr, wont have time to do a proper job.
Definitely always try them factory fresh first. It’ll be super helpful for the rest of us to get a sound profile.
It’s GMK symbiote
Oh ok. I thought so
Yep sent DM if still wanna see
Damn what case is that @stark osprey it’s awesome
Yeah I figured symbiote would look good on silver so I snagged it
One of my fave sets
Only took like 2-3 years to release iirc
I might be wrong don’t quote me lol
yeah some sets take years its insane
I found gmk taiga locally, the seller said he only now started receiving the sets
but damn I wish it had latin alphas
even though Im from russia, having full cyrillic board is kinda offputting for me
I had my Drop set took months. But I’ve never had to wait years. That’s crazy
yeah I guess covid affected the manufacturing and delivery times too
You do not know
apart from gmk taking a lot of time to being made on its own lol
you might be a whole different person by the time you get your set 😄
@harsh dove you can prove
Yes
Prove what
That group buys took years
Oh yeah
Because guy dosent belive it
On average was like 2-3 years for most people to receive their stuff
Lots of delays
Changes made
Etc
I’m pretty sure he believes it lol
I do. I’ve read horror stories.
yeah these would go well with the idea I think
at that point you'll have to change your name to HOLY 60 FRIJOLES xd
Also stories where companies took all the money and never delivered
yeah when I was browsing gmk taiga pics, some guy on reddit said he bought multiple sets and got his money stolen basically
Thats why i only buy in short groupbuys or instock. Because I do not have patience
Some people in hobby have atleast 100 sets
Because they forgot
Who stole it
don't remember, it was about some vendor closing or rug pulling
I watch a guy on YouTube who has like 40+ keebs and each one has a GMK set. It’s ridiculous
My keyboard eu?
So it is atleast around 15k in keyboards
let me look it up
It wouldn’t surprise me
tbf I kinda don't want other keycaps now, not even because its expensive and "cool" in a pretentious way
they just tend to have good designs made by the community and the quality of the plastic is great to me, and also the double shot technology is different from most manufacturers
gmk stem is the same part as the outer shell of the keycap, which changes the typing feel a little bit, and I like it
Yeah that happened too
Yeah it definitely seems worth it.
I’m super excited my wife supposedly ordered me a set for my birthday in 2 weeks. I’ll finally have a non counterfeit set. 
oh this is actually awesome
Oh yeah I forgot about that lol
do you know which one it'll be?
I never had gmk clones
Not clones. Counterfeit
my gmk 8008 set shipped
I would feel naughty to use it
Counterfit?
sports bra keycaps incoming
Think 4 gmk sets in a year is enough 
Oh is that the bar we’re setting
Double it
4 GMK sets a year
Keeps the doctor away I heard
I wouldnt know what you're talking about if I never saw that random pic of the bra on novelkeys (or some other vendor)
My raw he switches look like they'll be here tomorrow and my black jades monday/tuesday
Yes a company pretending to be GMK selling replicas
If you get them on sale from Omnitype then you can get 8 sets a year lol
Did anyone else have an extremely difficult experience fitting in switches and tadpoles in their custom PP plate from Cafege?
Worst part is they act like they’re selling legit ones
Whereas other companies making clones usually announce that they’re clones
this one? lmao
a keycap from each set on each key of the 60he
nike does colour palettes so well tbh
yeah lol
Hands were literally getting indented as I was trying to push in the tadpoles into the holes
These. Bento r2
Took me over 30 minutes trying to fit them in
@harsh dove does na vendors include candy like eu vendors?
Yes
Me
Need 61 gmk sets then
Some of them
Good lord that was probably the worst experience I had building with a plate 😭
Yeah I flicked cafege a message about it
Wonder why
@harsh dove was it u that had that wooden brush
What’s it called
I've seen this one locally, the blueish color is good
Me too. Hopefully they can get that taken care of. I was wondering if I was one off case. Thanks for letting me know your experience.
Guys how much gmk sets do you have
4
Thank u brother
But after a lot of effort and force pushing I got them all in, my fingers were sore though 
About a dozen
Yeah I really like them
no I lie, I have 3 cause I sold my gmk red samurai
12 gmk sets not bad
-1
Bigger number = bigger better
True, mine too😅
Obviously
Better number = bigger number = better bigger better number
That’s big sexy
Clean!
salvation boys
Russian detected
GAF mat
Still at work
xd, not my pics but I'm really considering getting this
ohhh right
Can’t wait for PBTFans EMMA
"Shift Lock" is really cool
Upside down spacebar and all?
Gotta go pick up my new screwdriver + bit set after work 
yeah that was the first thing I noticed too
oh oh oh gotta google it now
Yes
Why spacebar is in 45°
PBTFans emma slaps
Told you
it was just upside down when i took the photo the lighting looks weird lol
Are they translucent?
That’s it normally
Semi yes
I really like that set!
they do a doubleshot abs so the bottom layer is opaque and then there's a translucent layer on top that creates kind of a depth effect @untold wigeon
I can show you my vior set one sec, they're a similar process
its abs too, didnt know "PBT"fans make abs sets
I’m not crazy about being able to see the molding injection sites
That's better
I like the speckles
u got any of that juicy Gaf kaps to match the mousepad?
there's a beige alpha set that came with vior too but I find these pbtfans blue hangul alphas match the icons on vior a bit better
and I like having sublegends
this is not my pic 😄
Yep lol makes it that much better
oh rip, nice set but better if it wasn't two-toned imo 
Desk mat to go with the Emma caps. This thing goes hard
actually yes, I'm too more of a fan of one-tone sets
I can see it is in production, does it mean I missed the group buy?
Would go great with my Pine Green 461E case
yeah, I need that Perestroika but the designer won't ever bring it back
Indeed
With PBTFans Emma
That’s one of the best looking mats I’ve ever seen
No, that’s after the interest check
You’ll get notified when they’re available
yeah one tone is actually more clean with cyrillic alphas
Basically enough people were interested so now they’re in production
will be looking out certainly, I just love this color
im actually having a custom guitar made with similar finish
xd true
The caps being identical to the case color freaks my eyes out
Sick
there's also these
alphas may not be a as consistent as gmk but lovely colors
Get both and alternate each key for Christmas caps! lol.
you won't believe it
oh my days
Thats p nice
Put Raw HE video here: #1258945426548330557 message . Video of jades above for comparison.
Most noticeable thing for me is the feel. Tolerances are better/ less wobble than the jades, which were already a step up from lekkers.
Now this is what im looking for
Im assuming a bit louder than jades as well?
I can't really say because not a fair comparison, they actually sound a tad more muted, but probably cause they're on Poron, while jades were on silicone.
on the top out?
Silicone is suppose to be more muted than poron
poron should mute higher frequencies more
But given that both switch are in the higher frequencies they should be relatively similar and based off of the prototype build video the raw's are a bit louder than the jades
raw he's might be louder due to semi open bottom, more resonance
but the sound signature should be similar yes
since their stems both bottom out while hitting the bottom plastic
Ok now put them on
That’s awesome
Got a discount and stickers = W
Although poron should mute higher frequencies, silicone lowers the mid frequencies which could mean that if the switch is neutral or low pitched then it should stay low pitched but more quiet vice versa with high frequency i presume which is why its more muted
How much 👀
Talked em down from $165 to $150
speech 100
all I can say is jades are quite loud due to the big magnet hitting the bottom, and they are on the higher end more probs
not bad at all lol
can't see em
They look really nice
yeah I think what he's saying makes a lot of sense tho, the silicone seems to make jades snappier and they stay kinda high pitched, with poron they sound a bit deeper since the high freq is blocked
so maybe the raw he would sound similar with silicone?
@stray tiger
it does sound clean with the poron and raw he's for how loud the jade sound test was overall
Pretty sure you told me to ping you when I got em
yeah I agree, closed bottom switches are def on higher end of frequencies
yeah makes sense
That video sounds just like my Dash’s
couldve been worst
Maybe I watched the Jades one.
anyone out there try a polypropylene plate on a wooting yet?
the ones that scrambler posted? The one you can watch in chat are jades the one on google was the raw HE I think
Yeah can't explain it, I understand properties of both which is why I thought going poron would give me a deeper sound on the Raws
Ok that explains why it sounded just like my Dash’s
yeah that would make sense
geon raw he goes so fucking hard holy
SAME
damn yall make me want to order them too
You can't have any Thockson
sorry thockson
my dslr battery isnt charged so here's a monkeytype clip with mic
thats insane sounding
clack city
my wooting/tofu build is kinda muted even without the case foam but with the poron plate foam so I wanna see how these sound in it
no tape, pc plate, silicon dampener, pe foam switch pads, acrylic tofu
random shitty knockoff aliexpress wob katakana
Ok so I watched the right one and someone help me. They almost sound higher pitched than the jades.
idk if i wanna use gmk on my wooting because of the shine
They are
They are louder than Jades but of the same tone
Ok so it’s not just me
YES this is what I heard
But you will
NUH UH
switch tape mod now: taping off the hole in raw he's

I'm not endorsing that
Lol
I wouldnt too, I'd just embrace the clack
I'm not against someone else trying it tho
i really cannot wait for the optimum case to come out...
but i'm not going to use it for a wooting. I'm gonna use it with (hopefully this is out by now) Cipulot's EC60X PCB
ME
YOU KNOW DAMN WELL IM DOING IT FIRST 
allegedly it has adjustable actuation/rapid trigger which would be INSANE for topre
Chat he found out 
:3
now that sounds interesting
Topre is life
but i can't game on an hhkb layout and i don't like anything larger than 65%
Embrace shine, embrace clack 
more shine=more clack
guess its time to get gmk wob katakana
Btw where the flip you been, i remember you
I shall remember everybody no matter how many brain farts i get!!!
reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
destiny 2
(Talking abt all the name changes)
also like
i feel like i hit endgame wooting here there's nowhere left to go
the geon raw he is basically the exact sound and feel i've always been chasing so now i'm diving into other custom keebs
especially topre
been hunting some vintage hipro keycaps and getting my heavy grail custom powder coated
Fk the jades
woah

have you ever had em tho xd
no 
I mean improving tolerances is always great so you can just go for raw hes without doubt
im hoping to achieve the same with black knight upper housing on jades, but I'll order raw hes tomorrow too
RAW gang
imagine if geon released them in matte black oofff
Dude best HE switch, fk preference

lul
and also, fk GMK for not making use of Cherry's bubbled winkey tooling 
I like that
mmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Streaming it?
Nah
frik
Wait white sleeper build? 
will gummy oring mounting my keyboard make the keys on the corner sound better
right now the backspace is kinda loud same with the escape key
or is there some thing else i gotta do to make it quieter
Wait, what? That's beautiful.
Dw
just trying to break the chain
@loud zephyr I ordered these, will tell you how they come out
Wym lol
The keeb you're using in the back
that's pretty cool, just the caps you need for a 60%. hopefully the quality is saweet!
What about it
What it have?
Neo lavenders and alu plate
Oh those look great!
lol yeah it’s basically my test subject wooting board that I test stuff with
Main one is in the frog mini
About to put them on the frog
Is that GMK Dark?
Will gummy o-ring mounting my keyboard make the keys in the corner quieter? Right now, the backspace and escape keys are quite loud. Is there something else I should do to make them quieter?
GMK stealth
That looks so good dude lol
Damn I missed out
Probably ABS tho
So nvm

Hahah yeah
Are you using the plate foam insert?
the one that came with my tofu redux
i have zipnfit in the brass plate area and at the bottom

