🔧│keyboard_modding

[cold bloom]

That’s a bit more than I used but you can try

I probably had like 75% of that much?

Might be diff in the salvation where I had to get at the screws still and didn’t wanna complete pack in over the leaf springs tho

So you should be fine

[untold wigeon]

Yeah I just tried and it was too much. Couldn’t get the usb lines up. I had like 60% as much now and trying again

[cold bloom]

Sounds good

I did take a chunk out near the usb port cause I found it got covered a bit lol

[untold wigeon]

How do you like the leaf springs, I know my case is not compatible but I’m very intrigued by them

[cold bloom]

I really like it so far, I think I’m going to build the mx pcb for it next week so excited to see how that works too

It’s a crazy soft typing experience

It came with an fr4 plate but the pcb and some hmx switches are on sale so I think I’m gonna grab them

I’ll send a video later of the flex with the wooting setup I have rn tho, with the poly fil I was able to burger mount with 2 screws from my tofu case as they were a bit longer and I still get a ton of bounce/flex

[mellow leaf]

holy crap this looks like a nuklear explosion from a case

[untold wigeon]

lol. Yeh.

[cold bloom]

I got the fr4 plate lol

Probably gonna put my wooting back in my tofu once I build up the salvation but I’ll try it with the fr4 in that case first

[untold wigeon]

Nice

[mellow leaf]

ima keep the steelplate tbh

are those the sticky rices?

[paper bloom]

What switches are these ?

[mellow leaf]

i think those are sticky rice switches

[paper bloom]

O

[untold wigeon]

WS Dash

[median spade]

Yeah I know, been at this keyboard stuff for 5 years now and tried anything and everything you can think of

[little glen]

if you worry so much about the keycaps you buy because of sound then you should also change to different plate

[untold wigeon]

WS Dash

[paper bloom]

O the closer jades

Nice

[mellow leaf]

really? i thought these were everglide sticky rices

or am i mixing the names up?

[untold wigeon]

Same company different switch

@cold bloom when you did poly fill were you still using case foam?

[mellow leaf]

they are nowhere near the same, the sticky rices are pink and has a dust proof stem where as the ws dashes, idk, but the ws dashes and the magnetic jades are both the same switches, since they are both manufactured by gateron

[untold wigeon]

Reread. lol. Same company makes them. 2 different switches

[little glen]

ah yes gateron, company known for only making a single product

also sticky rice are having compatibility issues anyway

[royal dragon]

These are just a random brand off Amazon. I've been wanting the Divinikey blanks, but they have been out of stock forever

[cold bloom]

No just poly fil, the way that the salvation leaf springs are I couldn’t really use normal case foam

I just filled in the bottom a bit

[untold wigeon]

Ok makes sense. I couldn’t get the usb to line up no matter what I tried. Just too thick

Holy crap it sounds entirely different with the CF plate. I’ll put comparison videos in a little bit.

[marsh saffron]

Can't wait to get mine

[untold wigeon]

Yeah they are great!

[marsh saffron]

What does polyfill do for the sound

[untold wigeon]

I think it’s supposed to fill in the space and deaden the sound.

[modest pond]

Sure, I'll do that. Thanks for the advice.

[untold wigeon]

I didn’t leave it in I couldn’t get the pcb to sit right

Stock plate

CF plate.

CF seems louder but slightly deeper. It’s different. I like it.

What I absolutely LOVE is not being able to see that bright ass plate through the keys anymore. That alone is worth it.

[marsh saffron]

Yeah I love black PC plate for this

Makes it look so much better

[polar girder]

Yeah polyfill is an alternative to the case foam. Absorbs/reflects sound differently

[untold wigeon]

Dude a million times better. Not even close

[polar girder]

More dense stuff absorbs lower pitch sounds. Less dense stuff absorbs higher pitch sounds.

Generally speaking.

[untold wigeon]

You so smart

[marsh saffron]

Hm, might have to try polyfill

[prime ridge]

Getting my Frog Mini from Germany soon!

[cold bloom]

Kinda hard to video it with my phone lol had to hold it with my left hand but was cross armed 🤣

[untold wigeon]

Holy crap! Look at all that flex!

That’s nice! My setups have always been rigid. I might need to try this.

[cold bloom]

It's a wonderful case, there's still some stock on sale at novelkeys I think of the more generic colours, the copper slag is still available on the salvun site but it's not cheap cause it's the full pcb and whatnot too

damn not on sale at novel keys anymore but still in stock

https://salvun.com/products/salvation?variant=46723143565635

https://novelkeys.com/products/salvation-keyboard

[polar girder]

Sick. Which color?

[cold bloom]

I wonder if the 461e will be the closest case for the wooting to the frog mini, will have to see how the mounting system works/sounds I guess

or the optimum case maybe

[untold wigeon]

Oh my! $305 for purple. That’s a spicy meatball!

[cold bloom]

I got mine from ashkeebs where it was a bit cheaper for just the case itself

https://www.ashkeebs.com/product/salvation-keyboard/

canadian dollars tho

[polar girder]

Yeah will be interesting to see/hear them both

Especially compared to frog mini

Why I have a feeling Cam will be the one to showcase all three in comparison

[marsh saffron]

Probably

[cold bloom]

that's what I'm waiting for lmao

I think I prefer the design of the optimum case over the 461e so will see

[polar girder]

I know he pre-ordered the 461e and has a frog. Idk if he’s going to try the optimum case or not.

[cold bloom]

fair

I do like the silicone plate the 461e shows that you can modify tho

poron on alphas and silicone for mods would slap

[polar girder]

And 461e has cutouts for the silicone pad

Idk if optimum has the same. Or if it’s more just friction

[cold bloom]

ah yeah I figured that's how it worked based on the photo they have up for the gasket mount

it looks like you just install the silicone pad between the plate and pcb and push it in until the edges of the pad are seated

would be my guess

[marsh saffron]

Pretty sure it's friction mount

[cold bloom]

I'd assume it's something similar but idk if it's more oring friction mount or a custom pad like this

the pad way of mounting the 461e would make it pretty universal tho, just need the pad not a new plate

[prime ridge]

I got it in silver!

[untold wigeon]

I don’t know why but I’m actually surprised how much more muted the rgb is with the CF plate. I really like it.

[cold bloom]

I feel like silver is the only colour I still see in stock, but it's a really nice colour for that case I think

[untold wigeon]

Lord I never thought it would be so hard to get rid of my 3070ti on eBay. No one ever just pulls the trigger and just buys lol.

[polar girder]

I had good luck selling my 6900xt on
r/hardwareswap

[thorn zealot]

So no foam would mean the most clacky no?

[polar girder]

Yeah

[thorn zealot]

That’s what’s up

[untold wigeon]

Hmm maybe I’ll try that. It’s just confusing. I have the lowest priced one of its kind but it doesn’t sell. Others that are more expensive keep selling. I’ll never understand it

[steel hemlock]

This is cursed.

[untold wigeon]

lol yeh. I ended up leaving it out. I got it to work with much less but the usb was too high up.

[harsh dove]

Which model?

[fluid ravine]

holy shiet

[harsh dove]

Yes

[untold wigeon]

Gigabyte 3070ti

[fluid ravine]

Thats a concerning amount of polyfill heh-

hope you're using that as your pillow

[untold wigeon]

lol it’s not like I knew any better. It instantly did not work so…..

https://tenor.com/view/shrug-frank-sheldon-christopher-walken-the-outlaws-fine-gif-25275641

[harsh dove]

Yeah based on current market pricing, I wouldn’t buy a 3070ti for more than $200

@ $300 I can go get a 7600XT 16GB model or save a bit more and get 7700XT

[untold wigeon]

They are selling all day on eBay for 300-350

[harsh dove]

Yeah I know I looked

[untold wigeon]

lol

[harsh dove]

Recently sold listings look like they avg around $300

[untold wigeon]

I agree though the AMD offerings are much better deals

[harsh dove]

Yeah

Or even a 4060TI

Which I wouldn’t recommend but

[untold wigeon]

That’s why I have that 3070ti. I pulled it out when I got the PC and swapped in a 6800xt

[harsh dove]

Yeah I used to have a EVGA 3070 FTW3 Ultra

Sold it for $400

[untold wigeon]

Nice. I always liked the EVGA cards. Shame they don’t make them anymore

[harsh dove]

Yeah

Sad

[untold wigeon]

Big sad.

[polar girder]

Yeah I sold my AIO 6900xt for $450 recently

Went up to a 4080

All set at 1080p/360hz for a while

Won’t have to worry about it until I finally want to upgrade to that 1440p/480hz OLED

Still might be mostly ok for the games I play. Prob not quite tho

[steel hemlock]

I found these on Amazon US that weren't available on Amazon Canada:

https://a.co/d/009MQpGd

Same company

They also have the black/white with red japanese characters which I really like:

https://a.co/d/01LGc701

[prime orbit]

This is perfect! Just a cheaper Katakana from Drop

With eng too

Is the quality good?

[untold wigeon]

I have the 45” LG ultragear oled. 1440 240hz and my god do I love that thing.

[prime orbit]

What do I want to look for pbt, wob?

[steel hemlock]

I'm very happy with the quality. What convinced me to buy them is a review from the same exact set and he describes them as having a similar feel to GMK clones with the only downside being a little worst print quality but for PBT keycaps it's an excellent price.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fqgb5n4irEU&ab_channel=ConsumerTechReview

Here's the review in question

[prime orbit]

OK cool

[steel hemlock]

All other keycaps in that price range were either ABS or seemed meh

Only one that appealed to me

And I wasn't ready to spend 70$+ on keycaps

[untold wigeon]

They look nice but I personally can’t do caps with 2 languages on each key. Too busy

[steel hemlock]

I just like how it looks

[untold wigeon]

Agreed. They do look nice

[prime orbit]

Sweet better than paying $120

💀💀

[prime orbit]

Once I learn my keyboard 100%

I’m getting these

Gotta swallow the price too

Hopefully drop is the highest of quality for that price

[untold wigeon]

Those are nice ^^^

https://www.ebay.com/itm/156025446477?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=ya4_krulsqm&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=8hmdpzngt6k&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

[final widget]

yo, can soemone tell me whats the best lube to use for switches & stabs ?

[untold wigeon]

I have a couple Drop sets. They are typically very nice

[prime orbit]

These are the same no? As the Amazon ones

[untold wigeon]

Different lubes for switches and stabs

[prime orbit]

I need them to be more than just nice for $120 💀💀

[untold wigeon]

I’m not sure

[final widget]

yeah, but whats the best for each ?

[steel hemlock]

iPhone 13 Pro Max mic

-Tofu60 redux (no brass bar)
-Weight cavity filled with foam and tape mod + base Wooting foam
-screw mounted steel plate
-Stock Gateron Jades
-Gilging Keycaps
-Stock plate mounted stabs from the prebuilt 60HE+ (not screw mounted)

I still plan to get a polycarbonate or carbon fibre plate, might get both see which one I like more. Definitely getting a brass bar to fill in the empty cavity was just too late on the order and will lube switches/stabilizers

Not the best video but to give you an idea for the keycaps

[untold wigeon]

@final widget here is a good read on the subject.

https://drop.com/talk/126327/the-secret-beginners-guide-to-switch-lube

[steel hemlock]

You’re likely to have a very slightly deeper sound and a much better print quality (if you look at it with a magnifying glass there won’t be any bleed on GMK keycaps) but that’s it. Won’t spend 100$ more for details like that but I understand the enthusiast mindset in getting them

[prime orbit]

I mean eventually I’ll get them bc i love the design

And someone told me drop is like the best of the best

[steel hemlock]

Which are you talking about rn?

That you’ll eventually get

Cause I’m talking about like

Most 100$+ keycaps rn

The set I have is plenty satisfactory for more than the average enjoyer

[final widget]

what would u recommend tho, sry will ask @harsh dove aswell xD

[untold wigeon]

Drop is the seller. Gmk is the manufacturer. And yes they are the best of the best.

[steel hemlock]

^

[uneven cradle]

This is GMK btw just sold through drop

[steel hemlock]

It’s all personal preference. Krytox 205 g0 is one of the most popular lubes but if you’re dealing with an expensive keyboard like a wooting and not a budget one I’d make sure to get the brand Krytox and not an aftermarket 205 g0 because some can have certain uncontrolled chemicals or are just slightly different than the controlled product Krytox makes.

For stabs use stab grease but I’m not too familiar with which products are good.

[harsh dove]

I’d just use Krytox 205g0 and some dielectric grease for the stabs

[polar girder]

Krytox 205g0 for switch/stab lube and stab wire grease I use this:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B000XBH9HI

[untold wigeon]

No problem. I like dielectric grease on my stabilizer wires. 205g0 for switches. Super lube is supposed to be great for springs

[polar girder]

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B000UKUHXK

Yeah I used this for my springs

[prime orbit]

These ones

[prime orbit]

Ah ok

[steel hemlock]

Man

They're cool but

[prime orbit]

Ohhh ok

[steel hemlock]

I would not spend 120$ on that

[prime orbit]

This is like when I have extra adult money lying around

This is legit last on my list for all my mods

I’ll use these until then

Then I’ll learn Japanese while playing 😏

[steel hemlock]

Hehe

My friend has been steadily learning Japanese

I think those would be a nice gift to him

He's really good now

[prime orbit]

I want to learn it but like I think I’d be too lazy

Or just get annoyed lol

[steel hemlock]

He studies every day

Actual scholar

He's not even a weeb

Like he doesn't watch anime or anything like that

I'm impressed

Most people I've seen start learning Japanese were people who were really into anime culture/Japanese media and often gave up

[prime orbit]

Yeah I watch anime

Recently I’ve slowed down

[steel hemlock]

I did too

A lot

Same

[prime orbit]

But I’ve watched a ton

And i I can tell you rn

I still don’t know shit 💀💀

[cold bloom]

@harsh dove 4:45 might be fighting words

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQg5eRzIi0Q

watch at your own risk

[steel hemlock]

I've heard decent things about Milktooth but are they actually considered better than Jades

Jades always seems like everyone's first choice followed up by Raptors

[cold bloom]

they're the same switch

same materials, everything lmao

[steel hemlock]

Hahaha

[harsh dove]

Bro said they sound better than jades

Wild

[cold bloom]

Wild

[harsh dove]

Same switch, same manufacturer, same tolerances, everything. Just a different color stem

[cold bloom]

better switch

[harsh dove]

And it sounds better

Crazy

[cold bloom]

lmaoooo

[harsh dove]

It’s fun to be ignorant

[untold wigeon]

He’s probably just saying that for rage engagement

[cold bloom]

I had to share it, as soon as I heard him start to say it CAM sprung to mind

[steel hemlock]

Ok wait

POM plate is more similar to a PC plate right

Than steel

[harsh dove]

Yeah

[steel hemlock]

Cause Im watching his sound comparision

Rn Im on steel plate

I hate the sound of his POM plate killmat foam mod

Compared to his steel plate/wooting foam

But his mic settings are pretty meh

He needs to turn off noise gate cause audio cuts in and out too much

This video might convince me to stay on steel plate

Or Carbon Fiber plate time?

idk

[untold wigeon]

I just switched to CF today. I like it better. Sounds deeper and looks better.

[steel hemlock]

With Jades?

[untold wigeon]

Yeh.

[steel hemlock]

Hmmmm

[steel hemlock]

Can you link me which CF plate you got

Man that does sound good

[quiet bay]

ooooh nicee

[steel hemlock]

I cant wait to get my O ring so I can gummy mount instead of screw mount

Its coming in early this week

[quiet bay]

cerakeys 4 the thock 🤤

[steel hemlock]

That and lubing my switches, brass bar, etc should enhance the sound a lot

[polar girder]

I mean you even said that the OG jade stems were nicer lol

[untold wigeon]

https://kbdfans.com/products/compatible-accessories-for-wooting-60he?variant=41579926651019

[polar girder]

So there’s room for some variability lol

[final widget]

@harsh dove would u say the lube kit wooting sell is really good besides 205g0 the stabilizer lube ?

[harsh dove]

Yeah that sounds pretty bad on his mic, very very echoey and dead sounding

Just hear his desk

[polar girder]

I bought the kit. It works

[steel hemlock]

I mean I know exactly where he went wrong

Probs has a GoXLR or DBS 286 and has his noise gate way up

[harsh dove]

Than dashes?

I prefer the white stem yeah but they’re the same

[quiet bay]

I like neo lavendars

[harsh dove]

Black Jades have the same stem too

Just diff color

Same tolerance

[untold wigeon]

Black jades have black stem right?

[harsh dove]

Dark green

[untold wigeon]

Oh that’s right.

[harsh dove]

Yeah only switches with black stem rn are the Raptors and Black Knights

[untold wigeon]

Anyone have purple ones that are compatible? Darker purple than the Dashs?

[steel hemlock]

does he just, drop the keyboard on the foam without really mounting it in this video?

Alright since no one is telling this guy about the dashes I'll do it for you guys

You're wellcome

[median spade]

should use a mic if you have one, phone recordings are notoriously inaccurate for portraying how things sound

sound test in general are hard but yeah

[untold wigeon]

Yeah I have a nice Shure microphone on my pc. I probably should do that. The iPhone doesn’t do it justice.

[median spade]

oh yeah definitely use that then

[steel hemlock]

Hehe we both have and did the same thing

[prime orbit]

Which plate is the best?

Black PC, Fr4, or Carbon Fiber

[mellow leaf]

White PC looks best with RGB and Sound

[prime orbit]

Unf I can’t do white cuz my setup is all black

💀

[mellow leaf]

come on, nobody sees the white, its a plate, chill dini base

[prime orbit]

But the color doesn’t matter no?

[mellow leaf]

RGB does tbh

[prime orbit]

Ah ty! In that case I’ll probably just get the PC since none of these affect performance right?

[mellow leaf]

it shows your profile

[prime orbit]

I use white for rgb and I use it enough to just see what I’m typing lol

I think it should be fine

[mellow leaf]

they dont affect performance, but it will feel a little bit gaskety

[rich cape]

You welcome, just reposting it

[prime orbit]

Gaskety?

[mellow leaf]

not really, i would probably describe it soft

[prime orbit]

So the PC will feel softer?

[mellow leaf]

BECAUSE ITS POLYCARBONATE

sorry for the caps

i was raging in a other server

[prime orbit]

No need to yell 😭😭😭

I’m getting to understand here 💀

Softer equals better sound

And since performance don’t get affected

Sound is second

[mellow leaf]

more like a sinking keyboard

[prime orbit]

So PC

[mellow leaf]

POLYCARBONATE, not me raging in a other server

[prime orbit]

Lmao

[median spade]

no

sound is preference

so not better, but may be your preference

[prime orbit]

… preference

My worst enemy

[median spade]

[hard moon]

literally everything in the world of PCs and peripherals is preference

[fluid ravine]

even fud

[hard moon]

i wouldn't have paid 500€ for some RAM if it wouldn't be what i wanted

[fluid ravine]

even yo gorls

[rich cape]

500€ Ram

[prime orbit]

Yeah that’s fair I just watched a vid on it. I think I want to do the PC black plate with a Foam insert

The silicon sounds too high pitched to me if that makes sense?

[hard moon]

G.Skill Trident Z Royal Elite

[calm pulsar]

yeah that's like a high pass filter

[prime orbit]

Yeah the foam sounded better to me

[rich cape]

So you bought 128gb?

[hard moon]

32 GB

[rich cape]

Hmm

[hard moon]

bought them when they got released

[rich cape]

Ah

These are black?

[hard moon]

but basically you're buying 2 sets when you buy them. They always store the exact same kit away in their storage in case there might be a defect

[hard moon]

silver

[rich cape]

I see, so they've gone down in price since you bought them, atleast I can't find them near 500

[hard moon]

it's DDR4 and the newer kits don't come with the B-Die promise they gave at the beginning

so you aren't paying the B-Die tax anymore

[rich cape]

Ah

[hard moon]

so technically you're playing the silicone lottery game with this kit, just like every other kit

[rich cape]

Yea, I'll be honest never heard of b-die before so had to look it up. But hopefully you're happy and satisfied with the kit you got

Until you upgrade to DDR5 I guess

[polar girder]

Yeah b-die is GOAT ddr4

[hard moon]

[polar girder]

lol that’s wild

But yeah 3 years ago. Checks out

Creme de la creme

[hard moon]

was worth it tho

[polar girder]

Yeah you’re Gucci

I have a set of b-die but I did a full platform upgrade cuz I was having black screen issues

Changing motherboard/ram seems to have helped

Went to ddr5

Wouldn’t have if I didn’t have issues tho

[hard moon]

to this day this is actually the world's 3rd best overclocked B-Die Kit btw

i was able to run 4000 10-10-10-18 at 1.5V stable

and some insane 2nd timings

[polar girder]

Holy shit

10900k or what?

[hard moon]

when tuned correctly it still outpaces DDR5

[hard moon]

10700k on a Z590 Tachyon

[polar girder]

Wonder what that AIDA looked like. 🫦

Nice

[hard moon]

maybe i should buy the same combo again and go LN2

[polar girder]

lol dang

Gangster with it

[median spade]

spent $500 on ram but a 10700k

[final widget]

anyone has a discount code for Omnitype site?

[hard moon]

the Z590 was meant for RAM overclocking anyway. So it didn't require some freaking 700€ CPU back then

[jade storm]

same dude, hate that they're OOS

[hard moon]

a.e. this was my DDR3 bench. Just a 550W PSU, a 4790k, a Dark Rock Pro 3, Z97X-SOC Force and 100 Kits of RAM back then to bin

[median spade]

oh of course but 10900k was just much better than 10700k imo

i had one and mine was at 5.3ghz all core, 3733cl14 etc etc

[hard moon]

it wasn't about the CPU performance to begin with. It was all about the RAM

[untold wigeon]

I wish I could have someone teach me about overclocking. I never have any clue what any of the settings in my bios need to be. None of the videos on YouTube make any sense.

[hard moon]

it depends on the motherboard, because every fucking vendor has different names for the same stuff

i.e. Asus calling it DOCP while everyone else called it XMP

[untold wigeon]

Asus z690 c/ac, i7 12700kf,

[hard moon]

and other than that your overclocking capabilities depend on your cooling and your PSU

[untold wigeon]

Corsair elite capellix 360aio and 750 gold

[hard moon]

well, then do your research and see what people are usually going for with the same CPU

so you get a rough picture of what's in the safe realm and what's definitely going to fry the CPU

[untold wigeon]

Yeah I’ve done a bit of that it’s just all the bios settings make no sense to me.

[hard moon]

like what?

a little example of why people should do research. RDNA2 / RX 6000 GPUs have an interesting quirk ignoring the voltage settings when the core frequency is set to 2600 MHz+. Due to the nature of RDNA2 an underclocking usually results in better performance than overclocking

[untold wigeon]

I’ve read the board and chip can handle up to 5.3ghz but I just don’t understand what settings need to be to get there. It’s probably for the best. lol. I’d probably nuke it.

[hard moon]

core frequency, Vin, Vdroop, calibration line

there are a few more options you have to change, but these 4 are the most important ones

[untold wigeon]

Now those id need to look up.

I’d honestly love to be able to hire someone to do it all lol.

[hard moon]

Voltage in, Voltage droop (basically how much Volt it's allowed to drop under stress load) and calibration line is how aggressive the voltage delivery should be following a line

[untold wigeon]

Ok I’ve seen that in a Jayz2cents video. lol.

[hard moon]

Jay is actually a bad person to explain you things about overclocking. He does know what he does, but he's bad at explaining it in detail

https://youtube.com/@actuallyhardcoreoverclocking

This brit is explaining everything quite well

[untold wigeon]

@hard moon oh awesome. Thanks I’ll start looking at that.

[median spade]

just don't ram overclock and save your time

i do it and nyumi too

it's hair pulling and takes forever

[hard moon]

unless you know what you're doing

[median spade]

Even then stressing it takes forever compared to cpu OC

[untold wigeon]

Yeah Jayz2cents never came off as knowing exactly what he was talking about when it came to overclocking

[median spade]

i have my ram at 7800cl34 currently and man what a pain it was

most people just get 7800x3D and 6000 live life

[untold wigeon]

Cl34 for ddr5 is pretty fast isn’t it?

[hard moon]

Jay has a wide knowledge of overclocking. He's just bad at explaining

[median spade]

it is indeed very fast

the timings are pretty tight too which is the important part i just did 7800 cause I could

can do 8000cl36 but was taking too long to get stable so didn't bother

[polar girder]

Yeah I just run 7200cl34 XMP

can’t be assed to dial it in yet

Still gotta figure out which one of my old parts were busted lol

Was chilling on 4000cl15 before

Not too much of a difference honestly but it does seem to perform
Slightly better

Still undecided on Hyperthreading but I’ve turned my e-cores off cuz it doesn’t seem to play well with CS2 lol

At least when I tried it last year

And I do nothing but game so idc

[cold bloom]

I've been on team no hyperthreading for a while with my 13700k

I can push my OC a bit further without it, not much but it's nice. I find I get better 1% low fps in games like Valorant and OW2 with my hyperthreading off as well

and I run my e-cores off in val through process lasso, I could just turn them all off but I like having them for background tasks but blocking them from the game with that software is easy

[polar girder]

Yeah I should do that

Project lasso

But yeah I found the same with the lows and HT

[cold bloom]

yeah I haven't tested it in every game out there but for the ones I mostly play it's better off

I think in process lasso you can turn off hyperthreading by game/app basis too I forget

I use the standby memory purge thing in process lasso too, I used to use a diff separate software to do that but there's a timer in process lasso now which is nice

[celest parrot]

Just get a 14900KS and apex encore

Got to 8000C36 pretty easy

[cold bloom]

This combo of silicone switch pad and poly-fil in the body of the salvation is so satisfying btw, I'm really liking the mix of a high and low frequency blocking foam with the he board setup in this case so far

sorry about my AC again lmao

this old ass building I gotta shut it off when I do a quick sound test but I always forget lmao

[cold bloom]

what's the benefit of ram clocked that fast? Like compared to a ddr4 set of like 3600c14 or something

[calm pulsar]

sorry to get into your talk about "keyboard modding" guys 😄

but I found this full black FR4 plate, which is kinda cool, no yellow accents like on kbdfans one

also got this pack of foam along with it, which has foam around the spacebar, as can be seen on the picture

stock Wooting poron foam doesnt have anything around the spacebar

[celest parrot]

It is a lot in my testing it was like 20% in warzone alone

From 5800x3d 3600mhz to 14900KS 8000

[cold bloom]

the foam that came with the original wooting steel plate should have a spacebar coverage

mine does anyway

then the one from the PC plate I got has no spacebar neither does the silicone

[celest parrot]

Also windows and general use felt a lot smother

[cold bloom]

hard to say how much is ram tho with a diff cpu tho right?

[calm pulsar]

oh maybe the original one does, havent seen it for almost a year now probably lol

[cold bloom]

yeah it does but if it's lost def not worth worrying about lol

[celest parrot]

Yes you need at least a good bin 13700K to hit 7800 karhu stable

[cold bloom]

yeah and I don't feel like messing with ram personally, just seems like you need an expensive mobo anyway to try and get close to some of the ddr5 kits

[celest parrot]

And a 2 dimm motherboard like apex or tachyon which are expensive

[cold bloom]

yeah exactly

just was curious how much it can offer for those that have gotten it stable vs say 5800mhz or something on a similar setup

will have to research it more

last time I checked it was only like a marginal improvement in games themselves but I know ddr5 is still growing a lot

[celest parrot]

7800mhz is like 4000 ddr4 but slightly better

[cold bloom]

okay fair

so if you had say 3600mhz really low cl timings it might not be a huge difference yet?

[polar girder]

lol apex encore little too expensive for me tho

[celest parrot]

If you have samsung Bdie you should hit c14

[polar girder]

Can spend $250 on a z790i board and get almost all the way there

[celest parrot]

Yeah I got mine for 650$ and it ain't worth it

I only play lol

[cold bloom]

this is interesting

kinda what I was looking for

[polar girder]

Ram also depends on IMC and motherboard tho

[polar girder]

6000 is like baseline ddr5 now tho

[cold bloom]

true

[celest parrot]

Toms hardware is not reliable

[polar girder]

All those timings are dog shit

Yeah that graph is chalked

[celest parrot]

Look at buildzoid or framechasers

[harsh dove]

I'm running 6200mh cl30, and tf is that graph

[polar girder]

Lolz

[celest parrot]

Hahaha

[cold bloom]

no idea

this site has some more updated timings

https://www.techspot.com/review/2777-ddr5-vs-ddr4-gaming/

[polar girder]

I might be selling a 13700k and some b-die soon

[celest parrot]

You better get a7800x3d with 6000c30 and call it a day

[calm pulsar]

thats me hehe

[celest parrot]

No fafo needed at all

[polar girder]

And not a single e-sport game was played

Sadge

[celest parrot]

I paid for 14900KS apex encore and 8000 ram kit and the performance difference was not worth it imo

[untold wigeon]

Is there a way I can stop the screen from scrolling automatically while I’m reading on mobile? It’s so annoying

[harsh dove]

[cold bloom]

idk why they're never included on like gamersnexus benchmarks or testing videos or other similar sites

[polar girder]

Yeah that seems reasonable

[cold bloom]

they all just do the same suite of games lmao

[cold bloom]

sarcasm or no? lol

[harsh dove]

sarcasm

[cold bloom]

I figured lmao

[polar girder]

No sarcasm

[cold bloom]

oh

[harsh dove]

7-10% faster on avg

yeah ig

[cold bloom]

I thought he might have thought it was too low haha

[polar girder]

Those are both decent XMP profiles for both ddr4/5 and that’s about the increase I would expect to see

[cold bloom]

but it does look reasonable

good point

[celest parrot]

Warzone is the only game I know that scale with ram speed

If you don't play it at a competitive level then don't bother brother

[uneven cradle]

Esports titles are usually pretty difficult to benchmark with all the variability

[cold bloom]

I still have a ddr4 board I've been upgrading for a while but next time I'll probably go ryzen and ddr5 obv

[harsh dove]

AM5 is the way

[cold bloom]

z690 tomahawk i think?

[celest parrot]

This

[cold bloom]

do you oc at all on amd? like with their baked in tools or diy or anything?

I feel like I know how to do it so much easier on intel I'd have to relearn lol

[celest parrot]

No just enable xmp

[harsh dove]

I did PBO Tuning and stuff

but not needed

[cold bloom]

yeah that's what I was thinking

I'd probably mess around with that a bit instead of tinkering myself on amd

[untold wigeon]

I’m waiting to see what next generation gpus will bring. 50 series and 8000 (maybe?) series.

New AMD cpus look pretty stout

[prime orbit]

8000 won’t have high end cards Unf

[polar girder]

Yeah idc until new monitor

[prime orbit]

Highest will be like 8700xt

[cold bloom]

I got a 4080 last year so I'm good there for a bit

but I want a new CPU in a year or two

[prime orbit]

7900xtx will still be the best amd card it’s looking like

[torpid crow]

anyone here tried alu/brass/copper plate?

[harsh dove]

Alu

[untold wigeon]

We need an 8950xtx. lol.

My case has a steel plate

[celest parrot]

4090 FTW

[harsh dove]

Kingpin 5090

[cold bloom]

I stayed away from the 4090 when they were burning pins lmao

but I love my 4080

[polar girder]

Yeah my buddy Just bought that suprim liquid cooled 4090 and a 14900k setup

[cold bloom]

my buddy has one of those 4090s theyre wild

[polar girder]

Gonna help him put it together next weekend

[untold wigeon]

I’m not ready to spend $5-6k

[polar girder]

It was 3k

Just not a prebuilt

[untold wigeon]

How?

[celest parrot]

Be ready for a massive card

[polar girder]

Just buying parts and not getting ripped off lol

Dimensions should fit the case

[untold wigeon]

I get it just seems really cheap

[polar girder]

I mean a motherboard and ram is like $400

AIO only like $60

[celest parrot]

Check the aorus elite ax x

[polar girder]

Yeah that’s what he got

[celest parrot]

It is a gooder it is in my bro pc

[cold bloom]

I got a prebuilt in oct 2021 cause it was legit cheaper than buying a gpu alone almost lmao

[polar girder]

With the 7200 t-create stocks

[cold bloom]

but I sold the 3070 for a good price and upgraded legit everything else in it

[celest parrot]

I got it to 7800mhz so easy

[cold bloom]

the only thing I have left is an ssd

[untold wigeon]

That’s exactly what I did. Trying to sell the 3070ti as we speak.

[polar girder]

Yeah I haven’t fucked with mine yet. Put my old 13700k in to make sure it wasn’t the broken part. Looking like it was the mother board

[cold bloom]

I figured as much haha

[untold wigeon]

Upgraded Ram, cooler, fans, storage, gpu. lol. I love the case though. Hyte Y60

[cold bloom]

I put mine in a Fractal Meshify 2

Just cleaned it so had an after photo

[untold wigeon]

I really like the Meshify. Looks clean. I only got the Y60 because I have so much room for it. It is seriously huge.

[quiet bay]

wo that's a big case

[cold bloom]

the y60 is dope I agree

[quiet bay]

what color u get?

[untold wigeon]

Black

[quiet bay]

nicee

[polar girder]

I have the z790i edge board. Hoping yo get 7600c34 and little tune and I’m chilling

[quiet bay]

that case would not fit on my desk at all

I would have to make my desk into an L shape

[polar girder]

lol yeah I have the 5000d case

Definitely on the floor

[cold bloom]

LOL

[quiet bay]

I have the 4000d one

[cold bloom]

I'm really tempted to build an ITX case next, my parents live across Canada so when I fly home for a long period of time I always wish I had my PC

[untold wigeon]

I have a separate small table for just the PC. It won’t fit on my desk. lol.

[cold bloom]

get a decent monitor and just fly with it on my lap or something lmao

[untold wigeon]

Now that’s a proper big boy

[quiet bay]

sometimes I want an itx just cause it looks minimal lol

but I dont rlly need it

[cold bloom]

the PC I mean leave the monitor there LMAO

[cold bloom]

agreed

I think the only reason I'd really do it is portability

[polar girder]

That would be sick

7800x3d would be good for that

[cold bloom]

but I'd have to either water block my GPU or get a case that can fit the 40 series which might limit flying

[polar girder]

Nah

[cold bloom]

although there's a few that fit now

what's that one that can adjust the size of the 2 chambers? Was it the fractal?

[polar girder]

ProArt cards are pretty slim

[cold bloom]

terra?

and I mean I don't wanna get a new card rn

preferably

[polar girder]

lol fair

Ok true lol

[cold bloom]

damn only up to 322mm length in the terra lmao

my gpu is 342

[rich cape]

750D here

[cold bloom]

Sadge

[cold bloom]

I have a ps5 I usually travel with if I need to

but I was thinking maybe I could turn this setup into an ITX with just a new cpu and mobo

and ram

[polar girder]

A lot of that probably heat sink
Tho

[cold bloom]

oh it's mostly the backplate and fans yeah

the 3rd fan to the right is just a blow through fan and it's way past the end of the pcb

[solid tinsel]

wtf is that

[untold wigeon]

I’ve always wanted to build in this ever since I’ve seen it. Tr-03

[cold bloom]

my GPU LOL

[solid tinsel]

💀

[cold bloom]

4080 aero

[reef quiver]

jesus I thought this was keyboard modding, not flex your overkill pc

[polar girder]

It’s a lifestyle

[untold wigeon]

https://tenor.com/view/flex-yell-shout-mad-angry-gif-17573975

[cold bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/little-giants-muscles-flex-body-gif-8495707

[reef quiver]

it's just yall making me jelly

😦

[cold bloom]

If I've learned anything from the PC/Keeb hobby is to not be jealous, people naturally will cause we're all human but I find just enjoying and sharing this stuff just as fun as actually having it or using it

[untold wigeon]

Agreed. It’s not a competition. It’s a display case.

[cedar gate]

Out of curiosity what is the most expensive keyboard you all have built I just saw the coolest one and was about to buy the parts until I saw the 1200$ price tag lol

[cold bloom]

agreed, I love setups and peripherals in general but it's one of those things someone will always come around and one up you or have something you like better, which is dope but as long as it's not show-offie

so wasn't trying to flex is what I mean 🙂

[quiet bay]

The only keyboard I've ever built. My Wooting

[untold wigeon]

I’m in to my Wooting for like 550-600 it’s the only one I’ve really done besides keycaps

[cold bloom]

I have 2 cases for my wooting so probably this one for now, mx boards can get pricey real quick tho

[reef quiver]

I haven't even tried modding a keyboard yet

I wanna try some stuff on my 80he tho

[cold bloom]

it's fun, I find some stuff makes my hands hurt so I gotta take my time LOL

the first time I lubed switches I was dying

[quiet bay]

I just take it easy when lubing

just put some music on and take my time lubing in the night...

[cold bloom]

I think it's easier when you have time, or maybe another keeb to use in the mean time

[untold wigeon]

Yeah like working with these screws. lol.

[cold bloom]

I'm gonna build up an mx board in the next few weeks so it'll be nice to have that then my wooting too

[reef quiver]

damn

[cold bloom]

the case I got is on a sale so I wanna grab the pcb and some switches

and give it a go

[quiet bay]

Even though gummy o ring mount makes my pcb raise alot, atleast I dont have to deal with screws every single damn time and struggle putting it back together cause the screws wont go into the hole...

[cold bloom]

gonna get hmx switches cause I heard you don't necessarily have to lube them and they all sound great

[cold bloom]

I think in cases oring friction mount fits it's way better than tray mount

[cedar gate]

I have built others but I think the wooting is the one I spent the most on around 500

[quiet bay]

Seems like most of us have spent around 500 on our wooting lmao

[cedar gate]

Woah lol what did you buy to hit that tag

[cold bloom]

I think most the money I spent so far on the wooting was on switches lmao

I got the l45s, then the raptors and combined them, then jades

[quiet bay]

It was the aluminum case for me

[cold bloom]

prob the salvation case now tho

[cedar gate]

But the switches r the cheapest part

[cold bloom]

it was like 250$ canadian? I think

[reef quiver]

so far I've spend 300 on my wooting

[quiet bay]

dayumm

[cold bloom]

I meant before the case sorry

[quiet bay]

You'll be spending more soon.....

it never ends

[reef quiver]

which I can't even do stuff with yet till august

[cold bloom]

I got an original tofu but I think that was cheaper than all the switches I had gotten around that time

[cold bloom]

damn

it'll be worth it

[quiet bay]

I can still upgrade my wooting lol

get new switches..

maybe pop it into another case one day

[untold wigeon]

Case, custom case engraving switches, CF plate, cerakeys among many other sets.

[steel hemlock]

@quiet bay Hows the gummy mount as opposed to screw mount? Getting my oring early this week currently screw mounted in tofu60

[quiet bay]

My dream case is a white salvation

[cold bloom]

the avalanche salvation is clean af

but idk if it's around anywhere still

[reef quiver]

I wanna get some pretty new keycaps with it, but I don't know what kinda sound I want my keeb to make yet so I'm just tryna figure things out first

[quiet bay]

So much easier to place back in 😩
Also does give some bounce with enough force
for me it balances the sound around the entire board

[cold bloom]

I tend to prefer abs keycaps myself but pbt is nice too

if its a good quality abs anyway like gmk or pbt fans

I don't have any gmk yet but maybe soon

the pbtfans one sound a bit deeper for abs than gmk from what I've heard

[cedar gate]

I have the pbtfans wob and it's pretty deep

[cold bloom]

are those pbt?

[quiet bay]

The thicc bezels are appealing to me

[cold bloom]

I have the deep sea predator ones that are pbt

and then pbtfans vior which is abs with some hangul alphas I got from them too in abs

[steel hemlock]

Man I justr got my tofu and now you guys are making me feel like I should upgrade :(

[untold wigeon]

I really like the tofu cases.

[cold bloom]

the tofu is really great for the price esp oring mounted

[quiet bay]

I got klippe t but I should've gotten salvation from the get go 😩

since it gets on sale

it's ok I still like the klippe t though

[cold bloom]

I think Im gonna put my wooting in my tofu long term oring mount and use my salvation with an mx build but knowing me I'll probably switch it around a bit

[cedar gate]

...

[cold bloom]

bro I have 2 sets of PBTfans keycaps that are ABS

LMAO

was just checking

[reef quiver]

lmao

[cedar gate]

If you mean upgrade your case than no I don't think you should I have tried every case and tofu is my favorite

[reef quiver]

when the pbt keycap seller keycaps ain't pbt

[cold bloom]

right

[cedar gate]

I didn't even know that pbtfans makes abs LOL

[cold bloom]

https://kbdfans.com/products/pbtfans-vior

https://www.ashkeebs.com/product/pbtfans-classic-hangul-keycaps/ then I got these alphas

[cedar gate]

Well I am 105% sure basic WOB isn't abs lol

[steel hemlock]

White avalanche is just so hot, didn't know it existed

[cold bloom]

yeah it's PBT I checked

[cold bloom]

it's SO clean

[polar girder]

Yeah this is why even tho the keycap is off my backspace cuz screwins, I refuse to let go of friction mount cuz screw the screws lol

[cedar gate]

I have the crosshair add on tho

[quiet bay]

Im not spending money on new switches until they're at mx level

[cold bloom]

there's a few new colours for the 65% the redemption too and they look great

[cold bloom]

nice nice

[polar girder]

Yeah I need the 35g springs

But other than that I’m waiting for something good

[quiet bay]

not even joking I put scratches on the inside of my case because I was missing the screw hole so many times 💀

[cold bloom]

no one sees the inside of the case

[quiet bay]

on top of the magnetic screwdriver not being so magnetic 😔

[cold bloom]

[cedar gate]

Jades are at mx level

[quiet bay]

they're still kind of missing something to me

[cold bloom]

I think it's just cause they have a magnet in the stem

there's no real way to get rid of that signature he switch sound

[quiet bay]

tbh i like Neo Lavendars more than Jades

[reef quiver]

are only the jades at that level from gateron when it comes to HE?

[cold bloom]

I think that's why he boards need a bit of foam

[polar girder]

Nah

[cold bloom]

so you can just clean it up a bit

[polar girder]

Nothing HE is close

Magnet is hard to make sound good

[marsh saffron]

Ended up going ws dash instead of lavenders because of price

[polar girder]

Too much mass I think

[cold bloom]

I think ur right bigsly

[marsh saffron]

Was able to get dashes for quite a bit cheaper with mech.land Canada day sale

[cold bloom]

you can lube them to shit too and it's still there

and comes back lol

[polar girder]

Yeah just have to soften the blow and hope for the best

[cold bloom]

yup

which is fine

the fact I have a wooting that sounds even half as good as it does is kinda wild

[marsh saffron]

I love how jades sound

[cold bloom]

but I wanna go mx next to chase the sounds I want a bit more

[cedar gate]

I compared it with some ink blacks and other than pitch I heard no difference

[median spade]

why is yours so high btw

do you have the wooting foam in there or something

[quiet bay]

yes

[median spade]

ah

yeah wooting foam unusable imo outside the 60he stock case

too thicccc

[quiet bay]

anything for thock

[cedar gate]

I neo lavender sounds like a worse jade to me but that's preference ig

[quiet bay]

ig my ears are just picky then xd

[median spade]

[cedar gate]

Jades are close to mx level

[median spade]

no

they're good but no

[cedar gate]

Well to me at least

[cold bloom]

hit a new pb on monkeytype LOL

I love typing on the salvation

it feels so cool

[cedar gate]

I compared them to all 3 of my mx switches (cherry red oil king and ink blacks) and I heard no diff other than pitch

[cedar gate]

Yeah a lot of people love the bounce

[median spade]

now try it with a mx build

[cold bloom]

I am one with the bounce

[cold bloom]

I will report back next week

or the week after

whenever my shit arrives

[median spade]

i got my salvation for my wooting then didnt' like it so it became a mx build and love it

wihch no love lost as only spent $120

[quiet bay]

u buy it used?

[cedar gate]

Has anyone compared jades to an mx switch on yt

[median spade]

yeah

got it off someone on discord

[quiet bay]

wow

[cold bloom]

I love mine rn with the poly-fil in it but I'm gonna take everything out when build it up

[quiet bay]

I need to snatch a deal like that one day

but not now cause im broke

[median spade]

offered that for memes and dude was like "sure ive had it and dn't care"

was listed at good price of $200 already

[cold bloom]

LOL

that's dope

[quiet bay]

damn

[cold bloom]

I did enjoy kinda building the case the first time tho

that was fun

also i think the mx build is a better layout than the wooting for a 60% in this case

having a delete and an fn key is solid

[median spade]

well you see

60he layout worse 60% layout imo

[cold bloom]

yeah I think it's not the best for sure

but the mod tap helps

[median spade]

this is the best layout

[cold bloom]

I like the split backspace one a lot

with a delete up top right and backspace where the \ is on that

[median spade]

that's also good

[cold bloom]

but they're both dope

[median spade]

anything with 7u bottom row

[cedar gate]

If your building an mx build and running box jades don't take your keyboard to work

Just trust me

[median spade]

if he uses box jades then we ban him

[cold bloom]

yeah I'm gonna get the hotswap pcb so i think it'll be the one I'm describing, is yours solder? @median spade

[cold bloom]

LOL I'm gonna get these I think one sec

[median spade]

mine is the hotswap

[cold bloom]

https://www.ashkeebs.com/product/hmx-swift-linear-switches/

they have an LY stem so should be kinda interesting

[cedar gate]

My lil sis uses box jades and they are so loud

[median spade]

hmx goated

like almost all of them

[cold bloom]

ah okay so I'll have that setup then

I can't wait to have a stepped caps lock tbh

all I care about

[cedar gate]

Like pls just stop typing my eardrums will blead

[cedar gate]

Is there a way to get a stepped key on wooting

[cold bloom]

not really

unless you wanna cut up some keycaps

[cedar gate]

I have a stepped cap lock and I could never get it on

[cold bloom]

yeah the switch has to be offset to the left

or you can cut a stem off a keycap, cut the one off your stepped caps and use superglue and baking powder I think it is?

[median spade]

yee 60he a fixed 6.25u ansi layout

[cold bloom]

some random combo people use in crafting and it makes it super stable

yeah super glue and baking soda lol

it turns it into like a resin it's wild

[harsh dove]

[untold wigeon]

Ok this is not a competition.

I’m really surprised it’s not heavier.

[cold bloom]

oh brother

how much do you think the salvation/wooting weighs

just guess

[untold wigeon]

It seriously feels heavier than a gallon of milk.

[untold wigeon]

Oh god no idea. Probably 6+

[cold bloom]

higher

[untold wigeon]

It’s ungodly then.

Like 14lbs

[cold bloom]

…….

it's legit just a fucking block of metal

[untold wigeon]

Hah! Nice scale.

[cold bloom]

yessir

[untold wigeon]

3.4 pounds. Not bad.

[cold bloom]

not bad

but hefty

[untold wigeon]

Mine legitimately feels like a brick. lol.

[cold bloom]

I thought the tofu did too when I had that built up

this is a beast

[untold wigeon]

It doesn’t look terribly thick

[cold bloom]

I think it's mostly the backside and weight

there's like a removable weight in the back

[reef quiver]

sure do love when your keeb can second as a blunt force weapon

[cold bloom]

LMAO

fucked up thing in Canada is that if someone breaks in here, and I beat their ass with my salvation

I get charged

BS

[reef quiver]

damn

[untold wigeon]

Oh I could easily end a life with that thing

[reef quiver]

just beat their ass harder and hide the body

[cold bloom]

that's wild

[reef quiver]

lmao

[cold bloom]

so American

[reef quiver]

funny thing is that I'm neither American nor Canadian

[untold wigeon]

https://tenor.com/view/merica-america-murcia-usa-drink-gif-22422112

[cold bloom]

LOL

[reef quiver]

I had to guess through context clues that whatever amount of pounds yall showed was heavy

if it's not in kilograms my mind can't compute it

[cold bloom]

the photo I sent was in grams

so it was like 1.5kg

[untold wigeon]

1.383kg here

[cold bloom]

oh that makes more sense

[reef quiver]

oh damn I just guessrd that yours was in pounds too cuz the picture sbove was

[cold bloom]

I read yours as like 300g originally

[reef quiver]

lmfao

[cold bloom]

I was like wtf LOL

[untold wigeon]

Haha nahh

[reef quiver]

lmao

[uneven cradle]

Just wait till I get my hands on the f2-60

[untold wigeon]

That thing is a beefcake. 2kg/4.4lbs

@uneven cradle the f2-84 is $420 how much do you think the f2-60 will be?

[cold bloom]

wait wtf is this intro to this sound test

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHbirgZqg5w

@harsh dove have you ever seen this?

bro uses his watch

instead of a mouse or a snap

[uneven cradle]

No idea probably less then that given its a smaller f2-84

[untold wigeon]

Oh ok. I thought you may have heard something about it. I’ve never seen it before. It’s friggin sweet

[uneven cradle]

Won't be wooting compatible but will be a venom HE pcb for it probably

[untold wigeon]

Oh that sucks

[uneven cradle]

The prototype got made like 2 years ago so its been a while since we last had an update, geon has it as next up in the timeline though

[untold wigeon]

Nice

[uneven cradle]

But he also just sold like 2k f2-84s so probably pretty busy pumping those out at the moment

Geon is the goat though

Doesn't have to go to manufacturers for his boards he is the manufacturer

[torn summit]

Might get my cherry taro keycaps soon, after that I'll buy the vxe r1 pro max, only for its color, yk to finish my light purple setup, will take a pic and all when i finished everything !!

[cold bloom]

nice!

[untold wigeon]

Don’t sleep on the Pulsar X2v1

[median spade]

F1-8X still my fave board I own

[untold wigeon]

https://www.pulsar.gg/products/x2purplemedium?variant=44194579022078

[median spade]

8lbs built it’s a tank

[untold wigeon]

Crap I forgot it was a special

Although it’s letting me check out with it so maybe not anymore.

[uneven cradle]

I wouldn't buy a x2 v1 for $95, as someone who owns and loves his x2

The updated version is $5 extra and pretty much better in everyway

[untold wigeon]

darmoshark also has one that’s not bad. People really seem to like it as one of the better budget options.

Darmoshark M3s Mini 2KHz Wireless Gaming Mouse,Tri-Mode connectivity(2.4GHz,Bluetooth,Wired),26KDPI Sensor,Lightweight 54g,5 programmable Buttons,124 Hr Battery Life,for PC Laptop(Purple) https://a.co/d/0bCol1Z0

[untold wigeon]

Me neither but as far as purple mice go options are extremely limited. Trust me I know. It’s my aesthetic too.

[desert elbow]

Anyone know where one would get some nice keycaps with some kind of space theme?

[untold wigeon]

@desert elbow

Look what I found on Etsy: https://www.etsy.com/listing/1732481678/galactic-nebula-gaming-keycaps?ref=share_v4_lx

JSJT Keycaps KCA Profile Star Wars Keycaps Full 139 Keys PBT Dye Sublimation Custom Keycap Set for ANSI/ISO Layout 64/68/87/96/104/108 Cherry MX Switch Mechanical Gaming Keyboard https://a.co/d/04vEj5kU

[desert elbow]

I actually have that set already LOL

[uneven cradle]

G wolves have a few purple mice little on the pricey side though 👀

[untold wigeon]

Nice! I like them. They look cool.

[untold wigeon]

Yeah but that’s like $179

[desert elbow]

They look good from a distance

The feel is mid tier

[uneven cradle]

$139 for the hts plus 4k

[desert elbow]

Up close the actual art on the keys are bit low definition lmao

[rich cape]

That is pixelated as fuck

Yikes

[untold wigeon]

Ok I just saw that on GW. It’s much more on Amazon because of dirtbags

[desert elbow]

Yeah not the best of quality lol

I was hoping to see if people might have some ideas as to some higher quality keycaps

[rich cape]

Any PBT/EPBT or ABS (mainly GMK sets) really

[desert elbow]

I meant like with the space theme

[untold wigeon]

Yeah but galaxy aesthetic is more difficult to find

[uneven cradle]

Keycaps like that are always cheap printing it's basically impossible not to

[desert elbow]

I saw these in a video and I don't know what they are

[tidal frigate]

Use Google search with image

And you will have answer

[untold wigeon]

GMK Galaxy if you can find them

[desert elbow]

I did do that, it came up with a set, but I believe he mix and matched some keys. It's not quite what I wanted but it's not bad looking

[desert elbow]

I saw these a while back and tried to find them, I swear they might as well be unicorns

I also live in Canada so that restricts me to some vendors

[untold wigeon]

Yeah I looked around quite a bit and I have only seen maybe 1 real set and quite a few knockoffs

[desert elbow]

Most of the ones I see are knock offs

[uneven cradle]

Also KAT Space Dust

[desert elbow]

OH

I like that

[untold wigeon]

Ok those are freaking sweet

If only I could type by memory

[desert elbow]

I think I could get away with it a bit, it would be cool if they had small letters on the south side of the keys

[rich cape]

You can order them with latin legends instead of the alien ones

[desert elbow]

Seems like they have the regular latin alphabet for the letter keys

[tidal frigate]

Thats minecraft enchantment language?

[untold wigeon]

Oh sweet

Link?

[desert elbow]

Well if you're in Canada like me I saw these on Deskhero https://www.deskhero.ca/products/kat-space-dust-keycaps

[uneven cradle]

Also gmk cosmos if you wanted a more subtle effect

[desert elbow]

They might clash with the finish of the black zinc 80HE, thanks for finding all these btw

[desert elbow]

Big thanks for showing me these, I bought the Alpha Centauri latin keys and Xeno novelties too

[small canyon]

Any thoughts on the salvation case? Might actually get it

[cold bloom]

I just got one I love mine

trying to decide if the poly-fil I put in it actually makes a real difference lol

this is with poly fil

that's without

[small canyon]

I’m skeptical bc of how the board moves… always thought you wanted it static no flex

[cold bloom]

the way I look at it, is that it's not like the wooting pcb has flex cuts, and it's screwed in at 8 points to the plate so when it flexes it all kind of moves

I don't think it should cause any real issues, I noticed a bit more movement in the case when i had it filled with poly fil but right now its not too bad, you can always adjust how you install the leaf springs too if you're worried enough about it

like standard you're supposed to put the pads half way in the space below each leaf spring but if you put them closer to the end opposite the screw itll be firmer

[small canyon]

I have a 5° kbd fans now for a long time.

What is the advantages is what I’m trying to figure out. What will the flex benefit that a firm board like I have can’t offer?

I would think you would want no movement while typing or gaming

[cold bloom]

a bit of flex can make it softer when you bottom out so it makes typing less fatiguing, for gaming it's not really much of a benefit but can do the same. You theoretically don't want any movement of the PCB from the switches in your wooting, but the way that the plate is screwed to the PCB and the switches sit in the plate they don't move away from one another when it flexes

the whole module just kind of flexes with the leaf springs near where you press, if you press harder than when you type you'll see it otherwise it doesn't move too much under normal force

[fluid ravine]

sounds fuller i suppose

[cold bloom]

yeah agreed

[fluid ravine]

I would run the no foam, but i think both sounds great either ways

[cold bloom]

I think Im just leaning more towards without for now

idk tho

yeah same

that's what Im doing rn

[fluid ravine]

lel

[fluid ravine]

but i like mine flexing :>

[cold bloom]

ayooooo

[fluid ravine]

lel

nah dead ass i love flex

[cold bloom]

same

[fluid ravine]

or just any sort of softer typing feeling boards

I need to make mine more softer now!! >:((

[small canyon]

Ok I think I get it. Still on the fence on that of a tofu or just keeping what I got

[fluid ravine]

yeah the plate should flex more if there wasnt any standoffs for the plate and pcb

it should naturally flex

with softer plates

[cold bloom]

yeah I bet a plateless build with mx switches would be wild in this case

[fluid ravine]

Plateless and PCB flex cuts lel

[cold bloom]

yeah man

wild

I need to try that sometime

[fluid ravine]

Flex from that and having the natural sound of the switch