🔧│keyboard_modding

[dawn bison]

Meh

[peak smelt]

your call

[dawn bison]

GTK it pairs well

[floral vale]

does this work for 60HE?

[tender heron]

Has anyone ever tried these? Would they even work with a wooting?

Gugu Black Night:
https://de.aliexpress.com/item/1005007088839432.html?spm=a2g0o.detail.0.0.cdf4a2QQa2QQ5i&mp=1&gatewayAdapt=glo2deu

[ripe grove]

also wondering if anyone has tried these keycaps? First time I've seen letters on Pom Jelly caps. https://www.amazon.com/Ranked-POM-Translucent-Dye-Sublimation/dp/B0CKPQPKL1?th=1

[wide vapor]

Has anyone ever examined these switches before?
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005007031529684.html

[ripe grove]

Kinda looks like it's just a recolor of the jades in black like the ws dash?

[wide vapor]

Yeah, it looks like it, but it's the first time I've seen it

gateron has released so many magnetic switch alternatives that it is really impossible to understand which one is better

[visual sonnet]

for the burger mod

what is that piece called?

wanna get it in person yk

[floral vale]

Anyone know if this set work on 60HE?

[orchid thunder]

It does not work on the 60he

[visual sonnet]

any hall effect switches

[floral vale]

why not?

[visual sonnet]

it should, no?

[orchid thunder]

something to do with the magnets not being the correct orientation for the wooting

thats what I remember reading here on this thread when those switches first dropped

[ripe grove]

https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/13k2z8m/burger_mount_endallbeall_setup/

[orchid thunder]

^ this explains it better than i did

[visual sonnet]

thanks

what screw does the 60he have

[dawn hawk]

https://www.gateron.com/products/gateron-magnetic-fox-switch-set?VariantsId=10813 anyone use these?

[wide vapor]

https://backspacetg.com/products/black-jade-switch
same switchs

[floral vale]

Thanks. I got confused about the Lavender and Black Jades -_-

I guess Black Jade is the new N polarity ones that havent released yet?

[ripe grove]

I see now. Some people were talking about this switch last week in this thread. Apparently the black jade has a dual stage spring.

[prime orbit]

Are these the jades but in black?

[peak smelt]

live picture of me tuning stabilizers:

[tawdry tree]

BACKSPACE’s Black Jades are presumably a Jade recolor, their two-stage spring is new however.
BACKSPACE’s White Jades have a dual-rail system like seen in the KS-20Us and 37Bs (no two-stage spring for these). Going off of the renders (which are more often than not inaccurate), it seems to be slightly different from the Dual-Rail Jade N version but I have my doubts.
BACKSPACE’s Black and White Jades are/will be compatible with Wooting’s boards if you wish to try them out. Same for Gateron’s Dual-Rail Jade N version but that hasn’t been released yet.

[tawdry tree]

They are not optimally compatible with Woot’s boards as their magnet’s polarity is reversed. The KS-20Us are perfectly compatible and basically identical.

[tawdry tree]

I should have them this week but I don’t think they’ll be interesting. Just a boxed stem Raptor really.

[vivid jasper]

Better get the kailh magnetic if you want a box stem. they are sold in small batches so you can easily try them out

[harsh dove]

Yeah iirc Tirade told me those GuGus sounded terrible so I passed

I will be testing the Black Jades and Kailh Mistrals though

Black Jades are assumed to be a recolor with a new dual stage spring
Kailh Mistrals are a fully POM switch housing

[cedar gate]

Is neo lavender just a thockier jade I can't find a sound test anywhere

[harsh dove]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1175688393548640266/1249520193768525875/FrogLavenders_Test.mp4?ex=6668429d&is=6666f11d&hm=ccd389c11113c1413d57b43a58ea551a07344eb4f0bd86291112ec1ef7d2b8b1&

https://youtu.be/glbUIxIfTK0?si=Qqq2420Arjhb251T

Turn YouTube volume down for comparison

And take sound test with a grain of salt

[cedar gate]

Sounds like a very marbly switch not something that would thock well so I might stick with jades

[prime orbit]

What will that do compared to the old ones?

[harsh dove]

Yeah not thocky

[harsh dove]

The dual stage spring?

@prime orbit this

[prime orbit]

So basically its a Jade v2

[harsh dove]

Yeah

Idk if they changed tolerances at all

[prime orbit]

shii and they blac

black

[harsh dove]

Could just be a recolor

[sweet oak]

One must imagine sisyphus happy

[prime orbit]

im getting them for sure

are they sold out

[harsh dove]

Yeah I’ll have them soon to test

[prime orbit]

like everywhere lol

[harsh dove]

Yes they’re sold out

[prime orbit]

Any idea when they will be back?

[harsh dove]

Not sure tbh

[prime orbit]

Gotcha

well im def gonna get those over the L45

[harsh dove]

They also have their white jades with dual rail

Idk if those are sold out too

[harsh dove]

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/3256806845214932.html

They’re expensive switches tho

Like $ 0.90 each lol

[prime orbit]

Eh

[harsh dove]

Vs like $0.35 for Neo lavenders

[prime orbit]

would you trust that seller?

[harsh dove]

Yeah should be fine

If not AliExpress is pretty quick about refunds

I literally refunded something last night and got the money back already

[peak smelt]

me and the birds start playing

[prime orbit]

I just hope the switches dont come ruined lmao

[harsh dove]

Haha should be alright

[prime orbit]

Where is the official seller?

[harsh dove]

Might come in a plastic sandwich bag, worst case scenario lol

[prime orbit]

i cant find it anywhere

[harsh dove]

https://backspacetg.com/products/black-jade-switch

[sweet oak]

ooh

[prime orbit]

New price for my keyboard is $382

not bafd

bad

[cedar gate]

Does the color of the jades really matter

[prime orbit]

If i have a choice imma choose lol

[cedar gate]

I will say they look better but there inside the frikin keyboard does it matter

[sweet oak]

Black switches are very clean

[prime orbit]

I mean they also have that new thing they were talking about

so why not

[cedar gate]

What thing?

[sweet oak]

The spring?

[prime orbit]

@cedar gate

this thing

[peak smelt]

so, my keys sound inconsistent after lubing, is this normal

[harsh dove]

Yes and no, some say an opaque top housing can change the sound (not that it’s opaque, I’m just sayin in general)

[harsh dove]

Let the lube break in

Type on it a lot over the next few days

[peak smelt]

alrighty, i thought it had to do with me overlubing

[harsh dove]

Could be but just use it for a bit then see if the sound fine tunes itself overtime

[peak smelt]

ill see if it does or not

if it does, my next move is either friction mounting or burger mounting. then after that im gonna ease off on the modding for a bit

[harsh dove]

The main difference of the black jades is really just the dual stage springs

They are most likely just a recolor with the same tolerances but who knows

I’m more interested in the Kailh Mistrals , hoping their magnet is good with wooting

And hope they sound good

[tawdry tree]

The top housing isn’t translucent black/smokey, it’s more greenish.

[harsh dove]

Yeah

Just the bottom is black

Top is like tattoo color

[prime orbit]

still

black is cool

[harsh dove]

Yeah def

I like em

I’m a Jades Ambassador

lol

[peak smelt]

would it even affect the rgb at at all lol?

[harsh dove]

Yes

It will

[tawdry tree]

I ordered some two stage springs off of ali too, not sure if they’re good

[harsh dove]

Oh okay nice

Not sure as in not sure if they’re magnetic?

[tawdry tree]

they’re non magnetic and the right size, just not sure if they’ll be good

[harsh dove]

Oh okay

[fluid ravine]

Morning y'all! (●’◡’●)ﾉ

[peak smelt]

morning thockson

[tawdry tree]

👋

Has anyone received the white dual rail jades yet? Haven’t seen any pictures of them yet

[harsh dove]

Knocked the dust off Olivia and brought her to work today

[dapper hazel]

thats not a keebmat though ;)

[peak smelt]

note to self

dont flip switches upside down when running backlit keycaps lol

non backlit*

[dapper hazel]

oh and actual keebmats are as cheap as $8 anyway :D

[harsh dove]

It’s a fishfish lol

I have a keebmat at home

[dapper hazel]

:D

hows the pleather vs felt?

[fluid ravine]

Going on a date with Olivia I see

[harsh dove]

Definitely like the felt tbh

[peak smelt]

shes a beaut

[harsh dove]

Ty

[honest sapphire]

so do i need o rings if im getting a tofu redux

[tropic bear]

It fits!

[harsh dove]

O rings for what

[honest sapphire]

to mount the case to the pcb

[harsh dove]

If you want to burger Mount, sure

[harsh dove]

Nice

[brazen sparrow]

[harsh dove]

These need to release already

Same with Xray

[fluid ravine]

AYYYYYYYYY

[sand oasis]

anyone had issues with the backspace and enter with the pc plate with iso, cause your missing the one screw for the pcb and plate? mine feels squishy and it isnt that comfortable to type on

[old swallow]

This month 🙏

[harsh dove]

Seems kinda neat

Wrist Rest Storage

[fluid ravine]

I think I want that 😃

Lmao Jk that is clean

[harsh dove]

Acrylic version

Also have white variants

Has good reviews too

[marsh saffron]

Do they make 60% versions

That's kinda cool

[harsh dove]

Probably but not that I saw

I only see one size, looks to be about 65% or TKL

[marsh saffron]

Damn....

[harsh dove]

Yeah

[old swallow]

i mean, its kinda cool, but like. wouldnt a small desk drawer just be 10 times easier

[thorn zealot]

Do u think the black jades will have any sound difference compared to the go jades

Also where can I find the other switch u were talking about

Being all pom or somethin

[harsh dove]

Yeah I mean I’m not buying one lol, I already got toolboxes for all that kind of stuff

But seemed kinda neat

For quick access

[harsh dove]

I’m not planning on it but who knows

Could sound slightly different

[harsh dove]

Kailh Source Series Mistral Switch

The Flame is reverse polarity and won’t work, and the mistral is not guaranteed to work either, hence why I’ll be testing them

[untold wigeon]

anyone know any low profile plastic cases for the 60?

[cold bloom]

these ones don't but someone said there should be a wooting compatible version coming soon

[polar girder]

Dang offered $215 shipped for 60HE in a Redux with brass weight + PC plate on the side

Thought $250 shipped was more than fair

[polar girder]

Like stock Wooting plastic case?

[old swallow]

i think low profile as in the switches being exposed from the sides

[harsh dove]

Alumaze is almost low profile tbh

4 degree angle with small feet

And with case foam, you can see the switches , if you take the case foam out then it sits lower

[old swallow]

https://www.amazon.com/Anodizing-Aluminum-Mechanical-Keyboard-Compatible/dp/B06XKRRX3L?th=1

[harsh dove]

Alumaze left , Salvation right

[old swallow]

could also do something like that

[sweet oak]

Need more mocha cases in my life

[old swallow]

anodized mocha Tofu redux looks so nice

[marsh saffron]

Yeah I debated about getting it

Glad I went with white still though

[old swallow]

i already had a black and silver before the mocha came out

but if it came out right away, i wouldve gotten that probably

the new colours also looks dope tho

[sweet oak]

If i knew someone that could mill id give em my kidney to make a mocha two he case

[harsh dove]

Mocha Protagonists

[sweet oak]

[harsh dove]

https://youtu.be/BgzhaTUyqSI?si=QYW4mEbs6ro9BXZv

End of the video shows the bottom

[thorn zealot]

What about the pom makes it different from other switches

Never knew

[harsh dove]

No other HE switch has been made with full POM housing yet

All of them are Nylon and PC

With POM Stems

[sweet oak]

Its so pretty

[harsh dove]

Ikr

[fluid ravine]

Yo home boy running it back

[harsh dove]

Wow lol

[fluid ravine]

[sweet oak]

[sweet oak]

My wallet is calling to me

[old swallow]

ohmah gawd

[fluid ravine]

No papa to help this time

[fluid ravine]

Is.. Is that what I tink it is

[harsh dove]

Yes

Coming soon

[fluid ravine]

[harsh dove]

To a friend near you

[fluid ravine]

[fluid ravine]

I scared

[sweet oak]

hmmm, just a singular friend or many? asking for a friend

[sweet oak]

id be too at that little table

[fluid ravine]

Sure I'll be your friend!

[sweet oak]

[fluid ravine]

Once I make it out alive

[sweet oak]

win the war

[fluid ravine]

May lost the battle
But we winning the war

[sweet oak]

was gonna get the mocha redux from divinikey on paycheck day but then they ran out

[marsh saffron]

still in stock on kbdfans

[sweet oak]

yeah ill most likely have to grab it there

[harsh dove]

Rose gold with pc key frame goes hard too

[fluid ravine]

YOOO

I HAVE TO SHOW THAT TO (♥ω♥*) mom

[sweet oak]

so pink, so cutesy

[fluid ravine]

Gotta say it's for school

DAMN

[sweet oak]

[harsh dove]

Gonna be my endgame board forsure lol

At least one of em

[fluid ravine]

Lollll

[harsh dove]

Not that color tho

[old swallow]

"endgame"

hah, like that exists

[sweet oak]

endgame is an empty wallet

[uneven cradle]

damn kohaku and the protagonist 👀

[harsh dove]

Exactly lol

That’s why I said one of them

I’m getting this combo

Copper Sandwich as they say

[old swallow]

my endgame was the wooting. but now i have 5 more boards on order lol

but hey, atleast its gaming endgame

[harsh dove]

Yeah wooting is my gaming endgame

Nothing to worry about there

But the protagonist will be my typing endgame lol

Definitely be my daily driver for a long time

[median spade]

welcome to keyboards enjoy your stay

[uneven cradle]

damn 5, i thought i was down bad with 3

[sweet oak]

mocha 80he would be my true endgame, only time will tell if that dream happens

[harsh dove]

Get raw zinc case and get it cerakoted by 3rd party

Then you’ll have your mocha

[sweet oak]

Oh i didnt think of that

[old swallow]

yeah, altough it should be 4, one of them just been taking forever

and i still have more i want to buy lol

[sweet oak]

Now im definitely gonna get a raw case

[uneven cradle]

what'd you get

[harsh dove]

Yeah lol

[marsh saffron]

my 60he is my end game

[harsh dove]

I have like 4 boards on the way I think

[uneven cradle]

when i say 3 I haven't bought 2 of them yet

[marsh saffron]

only thing that would make me change that is if i eventually get a 60he module for screw in stabs, or they revamp the 60he

[median spade]

I will see you guys in 4 years when you have used/owned as many as me as this is how it starts

[harsh dove]

461E, 80HE, Protagonists, Rubrehaku, I think that’s it

[old swallow]

Neo65, Neo Ergo, Mode SixtyFive, QK65v2 Classic, 80HE

[harsh dove]

I’ll probably end up getting the Antagonist and Icon as well

[thorn zealot]

Is there a sound difference between them?

[harsh dove]

Haven’t tested them yet but most likely , yes

[uneven cradle]

I'll be getting the Rubrehose Jane V3 and the Umbra

[sweet oak]

Aged zinc case is something I will enjoy seeing

[harsh dove]

Somebody said both those cases were ugly and I was hurt lol

The Jane and rubrehaku

[uneven cradle]

not everyone can have fine taste like us it's ok

[harsh dove]

I’m saying

[median spade]

how can a kohaku be ugly

it's so simple lol

[harsh dove]

They didn’t like the artwork I guess

[old swallow]

MAN, I JUST HATE FISH -kohaku hater

[sweet oak]

kohaku is awesome

[harsh dove]

For reference

[somber roost]

neat

[uneven cradle]

the umbra i want too

[sweet oak]

that bottom is just

[old swallow]

its not quite my thing, but it still looks very nice

[harsh dove]

Very clean

Wouldn’t mind that either

[harsh dove]

Yeah definitely have to have the taste for the art style

And at $750, you better like it lol

[old swallow]

i like the kohaku, but these are a bit, childish i guess

idk

not both

but the

[harsh dove]

Yeah it’s that 80s rubber hose cartoon style

[old swallow]

whats it called

[uneven cradle]

for really old children

[harsh dove]

lol yeah

[harsh dove]

Jane?

Jane is the other board

[old swallow]

the jane is ok, but the "open" weight idk

[polar girder]

Gasket mount 60HE compatible case when??

[uneven cradle]

that's not the weight

[old swallow]

yeah idk what to call it

but that open bottom

[marsh saffron]

is this not what the frog mini is?

[polar girder]

It’s as close as we have rn

Tadpole mount not full gasket but it’s two part

I was hoping 461E was legit gasket until I realized it’s one piece case

Anyone selling a frog mini btw?

[uneven cradle]

gonna be a nice 3.5kg unbuilt

[harsh dove]

I’m wondering how heavy my protagonist will be tbh

Copper key frame and weight

Gonna be hefty

[uneven cradle]

how much that cost is the real question

[harsh dove]

You don’t wanna know

Plus I’m planning on getting it Patina’d

With a custom copper cable too

That’s also patina’d

lol

By Wally Patina

[old swallow]

cam, you take your boards with you to work right?

[harsh dove]

Yes

I can’t be the only person to enjoy these beauties

[uneven cradle]

[old swallow]

do your coworkers ever wonder like, hmm, why does this guy always bring differernt boards lol

[harsh dove]

This summer is expensive that’s for sure

So many things coming out

[harsh dove]

Yeah I’m crazy to them but they understand lol, mainly cause I’ve explained the differences to them

[old swallow]

haha fair enough

[uneven cradle]

for sure my wallet 💸

[harsh dove]

Just take Nvidia CEO Jensens advice

“The more you buy, the more you save”

It’s never failed me in life yet

[uneven cradle]

https://tenor.com/view/nvidia-jensen-huang-safe-to-upgrade-gif-26481071

[harsh dove]

[old swallow]

also them tho: goddammit, cam is talking about keyboards again. now he wont stop talking ever again

[harsh dove]

Lmao nah, they do tell me if my keyboard is loud or not tho

[old swallow]

talking about gaskets, stabilizers all that jazz, i dont even know what those words mean

[harsh dove]

Gasket just refers to a mounting method

[old swallow]

oh i know

[harsh dove]

Oh okay lol

You’re referring to my coworkers my b lol

[old swallow]

yea yea

[harsh dove]

Yeah I try to dumb it down lol

https://tenor.com/view/nvidia-jensen-huang-the-more-you-buy-the-more-you-save-keynote-2018-gif-12315008507302833354

+1000 Logic

[old swallow]

https://tenor.com/view/nvidia-jensen-huang-safe-to-upgrade-gif-26481071

[harsh dove]

Gamers Nexus have a pretty funny video from Taipei Computex making a little parody of it

https://youtu.be/iGmROfaWg2Y?si=bSRf1qytXAXfDY0z

It’s in the beginning

“CEO Math, it is not accurate but it is correct.”

[sweet oak]

I loved the fails at the end of the video

[old swallow]

so, i have to just buy all my keyboards now at once

never wait

[harsh dove]

Same lol

[harsh dove]

The more you buy, the more you save

[old swallow]

the more you buy

[harsh dove]

The

[old swallow]

more

[harsh dove]

You

[old swallow]

save

[harsh dove]

https://tenor.com/view/bros-the-office-love-fist-bump-gif-13830753

[old swallow]

https://tenor.com/view/swim-swimming-dough-rich-money-gif-4663117

[thorn zealot]

what do u guys think would match the best with these keycaps i have rn

i cant decide

[old swallow]

mocha fs

[thorn zealot]

one day i pick silver

then the next gray

[old swallow]

its just such a nice colour in general, and those keycaps would match very nice

[thorn zealot]

and then mocha

[old swallow]

i have both silver and black, since i got it when the case came out, but i wouldve got mocha if it was a thing then

[harsh dove]

Mocha

[thorn zealot]

yeah now i look at it closer

i think mocha is the move

thanks for the opinions

[old swallow]

np

[polar girder]

lol

Yeah the unanimous crowd decision of Micah had nothing to do with it

Just had to look closer

I kid

[thorn zealot]

ong

[harsh dove]

Happy to help

[knotty iron]

when using screw in stabilizers noi matter how good they sound its it advised to put a padding between the PCBA and the screw in stab?

[lament grotto]

in my limited keyboard building experience, i always have o.o..

[knotty iron]

and for the 60HE+ how thick should it be? I know the screw in stabs have to be 1.6mm

[old swallow]

i dont think that matter too much, i think any like this should work https://www.thockking.com/products/poron®-keyboard-stabilizer-pads

but dont quote me on that

[knotty iron]

sorta like forcebreak but for stabilizers and PCBA

[lament grotto]

yea

just extra padding

prevent direct contact/grinding

[old swallow]

like a codpiece for a keyboard

huh

[lament grotto]

https://tenor.com/view/rowan-atkinson-mr-bean-gif-15247342

[old swallow]

https://tenor.com/view/knight-xbox-gaming-elder-scrolls-games-gif-27629886

[harsh dove]

It’s mainly just for preventing scratches on the PCB

Doesn’t do anything to sound

Kinda also helps to not overtighten

[harsh dove]

These do change sound

[old swallow]

yea yeah, but i meant as in the thiccness of it

[fluid ravine]

Back frm the dead

:D

[sweet oak]

link me those caps

[old swallow]

so, how were the dead?

[fluid ravine]

Pretty chill ngl

Alot of stories told by them

[fluid ravine]

One even said they got kill by that guy

[old swallow]

damn, thats crazy

[fluid ravine]

I thought it was pretty cool :D

[old swallow]

i mean idk

theyre dead

i dont think they find it cool

[harsh dove]

I’m referring to the little plastic o rings that come with screw in stabs, sorry

[fluid ravine]

He's sorry :0

How's the 80he so far

[harsh dove]

Ask Calder

[fluid ravine]

any shipments

[harsh dove]

No lol

[old swallow]

😦

[fluid ravine]

Good

need some time to enjoy my 60he before i go malding

👍

[thorn zealot]

https://cannonkeys.com/products/nicepbt-sweater-weather

i was debating between these and november fogs

and i chose these cuz they match my desk better

[sweet oak]

thank you

[sterile ridge]

where im so lost with these puny little pieces

[thorn zealot]

np

[harsh dove]

Reminds me of mode anthracite a little bit

Diff colors

https://modedesigns.com/products/anthracite-keycaps

[urban harbor]

definitely enjoying the knight stabs, they were lovely to tune up

didn't take any work at all

[harsh dove]

🫡

[urban harbor]

thanks for the rec cam

[fluid ravine]

who wants to hear a super hollow spacebar

[sweet oak]

lemme hear it

[fluid ravine]

ok i hate how it sounds less hollow

its either hollow or its a fking corpse spacebar

[old swallow]

just remove the spacebar then

problem solved

[harsh dove]

Have to be careful with sound test for spacebars cause if they’re loud, they’ll resonate a lot more in the sound test than in person

The mic will pick up the resonance throughout the room vs in person you don’t really hear all that “echo”

[sweet oak]

thats WalkOnCobblestone.mp4

[fluid ravine]

lmao

[fluid ravine]

Fk might as well be slamming the table at that point

[harsh dove]

lmao basically

Just know that spacebars in sound test usually sound louder or more hollow than they might actually be

[fluid ravine]

i see

Anyways

[harsh dove]

Im home

[fluid ravine]

those 2 just a difference between tempest and no tempest

just to show how fking big of a difference it is between those 2
and i hate it :D

[fluid ravine]

HOJNEY HE'S HOME GET THE CAMERA

[harsh dove]

Yeah I've removed all my tape mods from my boards

[fluid ravine]

honestly fk that
respectfully

[harsh dove]

lmao

[fluid ravine]

dont like the mod no mo

[harsh dove]

I like it just not currently

[old swallow]

honestly, on the boards i did it on i barely could tell a differernce

but those were old plastic boards

[harsh dove]

and unless its just me, FR4 and Tape mod sound super weird

near the spacebar esp

[harsh dove]

fair enough, yeah its noticeable to me on my builds

[fluid ravine]

Look at the newest wootstation :0

[harsh dove]

The Frog Mini might be nice with it but idk I have't tried

[fluid ravine]

waitt that case is clean

[old swallow]

i havent done it on a board with an alu case, that would probably be more change

[harsh dove]

Yeah

[fluid ravine]

#1249866325124321400 message

gah damn

Me waiting on a unique Wootstation title

[harsh dove]

That's a two piece acrylic case

idk the name

[old swallow]

true true

[sweet oak]

my next seup title will be a starbucks order, just to spice it up for you

[old swallow]

can i get uuuuuuh, number 9, a number 9 large

[sweet oak]

number 6 with extra dip

[polar girder]

NEED

[agile drift]

can i get the same underglow of this keyb with the default wooting 60he+? and does the wooting fit in the regular tofu acrylic not the redux?

[old swallow]

it fits in the regular tofu, but the USB hole doesnt line up perfectly. and it should probably get pretty simmilar RGB, since the 60HE does have per key RGB, and its pretty bright

not the tofu 2.0 tho

[harsh dove]

No, this is a PCB that has underglow RGB

Wooting does not have underglow RGB

It will not look like that

[old swallow]

oh sorry, i didnt realise this was an underglow PCB,

[agile drift]

is there an image i can see of a wooting in this case

oh wow

[old swallow]

haha the timing

[agile drift]

still looks great

[harsh dove]

Yeah

[agile drift]

thank youu

[harsh dove]

Luckily the Wooting has very bright RGB so it looks pretty similar

besides seeing the indiviual LEDs

[agile drift]

yeah

[harsh dove]

Other one is more blended

[old swallow]

i shouldve been able to tell tbf, since there was no light between the keycaps. unless they would be opaque switches

[agile drift]

is it true that i have to use a straight cable instead of a coiled with the wooting

[harsh dove]

Yeah thats the main difference

[harsh dove]

You can use coiled, just don't count on Tachyon Mode working

[agile drift]

oh okay

[old swallow]

on some cables atleast, will still work on some. such as the wootings own cables

[harsh dove]

Yeah its hit or miss

Just get a high quality cable and should be okay

and make sure it's 6ft or shorter

kind of the main issue with coiled is because a lot of the length is in the coil itself

and creates more resistance

[agile drift]

makes sense

[honest sapphire]

doesnt wooting sell a coiled cable?

[sweet oak]

they do

[old swallow]

https://wooting.io/product/detachable-cable?Color=Stealth

its a bit pricey, but youre getting a good one alteast

and it comes with both a staight and coiled one. and it has lemo connector rather then aviator. so wowies

[thorn zealot]

U guys think I should wait for more info on the optimum case

Or order the tofu redux rn while their dragon sale is going

[old swallow]

i mean up to you, but probably go with tofu

since there is no known ETA on the optimum case

so it could be months away

[thorn zealot]

Alr

[old swallow]

also, i dont want to give you more doubts, since the mocha is really dope and works really well with your keycaps, but this tofu colour is coming this month

[thorn zealot]

yeah that color not for me

esp for my keycaps

[old swallow]

yeah, but i just figured i would send it

[exotic apex]

does anybody know of a white backlit pbt keycap with non-backlit cyrillic legend to sell?

[median spade]

They said in computex vid it’s pretty far out

So if you fine with waiting

[thorn zealot]

Yeah

I mean considering it’s optimum

It prob only going to be gray anyway

[wary pollen]

which mounting style you guys wanna see testing with Raw HE?

I have access to Gasket (alu plate), Tadpole (POM, Alu, CF), False O ring (SS, CF), and ofc tray mount (SS, CF)

[harsh dove]

Gasket or Tadpole personally

[prime orbit]

Sheesh

Worth it

[harsh dove]

Yeah they're not cheap switches lol

[prime orbit]

I mean regularly they are $58

So honestly

Not bad for them being sold out

I just hope they are new and I don’t get scammed lol

They come pre lub?

[harsh dove]

yeah they're pre clubbed

[prime orbit]

…

😭

[harsh dove]

https://tenor.com/view/dance-kid-club-gif-9152583

[hard moon]

i mean it's Gateron after all. Their switches never come not lubed

[prime orbit]

So they aren’t

Uhhh

Idk how to do it myself

Is it needed?

[hard moon]

they are pre-lubed

[prime orbit]

Oh oh

You edited it

OK cool

[hard moon]

Gateron doesn't send out switches not lubed. They've gained a lot of knowledge about lubing since it was a common theme of Lekker switches not being lubed well enough

[hard moon]

https://tenor.com/view/speedball-russian-viacheslav-gif-22170859

[harsh dove]

That's great

[hard moon]

btw, there's someone selling a Fjell for 200€ and i'm not sure if i should buy it or not

[harsh dove]

using it for HE or MX?

[hard moon]

HE

[harsh dove]

mmh

idk about that one

but I haven't tried myself either so

Tenturo said it sounded like a tin can lol

iirc

[hard moon]

in that case i'll stick to my Alumaze

[harsh dove]

Could sound good to you tho idk, I never heard it personally

I contemplated getting one at one point

[hard moon]

i mean...

[harsh dove]

80HE gonna be your main?

[hard moon]

for my office probably. At home i'll stick to my 60HE with Jades

[uneven cradle]

finally caved

[harsh dove]

Ah okay

Yeah I got an 80HE in White Zinc just to put it on a shelf on display

[uneven cradle]

my pc plate and stabs arrived

[harsh dove]

Noice

[hard moon]

[uneven cradle]

not sure i needed new stabs but i got them anyway they're jade coloured so matching now

[harsh dove]

Just to cover them up with keycaps

[hard moon]

the PC plate's definitely a must

[harsh dove]

But you know theyre there

[uneven cradle]

yeah but i know what's underneath

[harsh dove]

Exactly

[hard moon]

speaking of PC plate... Does someone need 2 white PC plates? 1 ANSI, 1 ISO

[harsh dove]

I have 4 lol...

[hard moon]

or was it 2 ANSI? I've lost count...

[harsh dove]

I somehow managed to break one of the screw sockets off

[hard moon]

probably 2 ANSI since i've ordered 2 black ANSI plates

ouch...

[harsh dove]

Yeah dunno how I managed that tbh

and I never even found the piece of it

[hard moon]

well, tbf, someone at the factory managed to strip a screw hole of my UwU

and didn't bother to report

[harsh dove]

Guess you can try to rethread it lol

probably more work than its worth tho

[hard moon]

i think i'll fill up the hole with an epoxy first and then thread it again

[hard moon]

actually quite easy. Epoxy, drilling a new hole, then rethread it

But yeah, it's not really worth it, the screw still holds somehow

[harsh dove]

True I didn't actually think of that

[hard moon]

but given that my UwU practically glued herself to the desk and never moves i don't see a reason to do that work

[harsh dove]

Glued herself?

[hard moon]

brass case

thick silicon pad

[harsh dove]

[fluid ravine]

mine has a crack on some of the standoffs

i dont think thats gud

i scared

[harsh dove]

you got strong hands

[fluid ravine]

ruh roh

[harsh dove]

soft hands

[fluid ravine]

[weak inlet]

what can i put inside tofu redux 60 cause i dont have the brass plate
It is possible to put foam there or is something more hard better for the sound overall

[fluid ravine]

Yeah you can use foam or something to fill in the cavity. I cutted a piece of wood to fill the cavity in mine. Worked pretty well. Doesn't add a lot of weight tho lol

[hard moon]

I don't get it tho... We're going for lighter mice with each generation of sensors, switches and batteries, but keyboards need to be heavier?

wanna make a 100 kg keyboard or what's the point of it?

i'm in fact surprised no one came up with a pure tungsten case by now

[marsh saffron]

Yes

[marsh saffron]

12000$ 100% keyboard case

[harsh dove]

Gotta have balance in life

Heavy Keyboard

Light Mouse

[marsh saffron]

Exactly

[hard moon]

i was bored and calculated the weight of an Alumaze made out of tungsten... It would weight freaking 4 kilograms and 75 grams

[fluid ravine]

totally not crying in pain from tapping the case with my fingernail

[marsh saffron]

Weak nails

[fluid ravine]

Strong Hands
Weak nails

[marsh saffron]

Idk why my fingernails are really hard/strong

[fluid ravine]

lucky :(

mines just look nice

Asian mom genetic

[marsh saffron]

My nails don't exactly look "nice" but they aren't fucked up looking

They look normal

[fluid ravine]

My twin (Best friend that looks somewhat like me) has among us as his thumbs

literally his thumb nail is literally the shape of a among us head

💀

[marsh saffron]

Oh god

[fluid ravine]

Yeah its that fked up
Even if they were normal they short as SHIIIIIEEEEETT

Like pinky toenail level short

💀

[marsh saffron]

One of my buddies thumb nails look like a crumpled up piece of tin foil

[fluid ravine]

Wait why we talking about nails again

[marsh saffron]

Idk how it happened, but his thumb nail is so wavy/the furthest from flat possible

[marsh saffron]

Something something you have weak nails

[fluid ravine]

W topic

[marsh saffron]

My nails are so hard I can't even use those smaller gas station nail clippers

[fluid ravine]

dafuq

#Nail_WootSalon fr

[marsh saffron]

They literally just can't cut through them

[marsh saffron]

Wooting nail clippers up next

[fluid ravine]

Yup Hall Effect Nail Clippers

Stocks 📈

[marsh saffron]

Rgb nail clippers

[fluid ravine]

Yurrrrr

RAW Zinc Nail Clippers

Rappid Trigger Nail Clippers

[marsh saffron]

Adjustable actuation, 8k polling

[fluid ravine]

Rappy Snappy Nail Clippers snap snap

[marsh saffron]

Is there any upcoming wooting compatible switching releasing soon?

[fluid ravine]

Like out of all of the ones we know so far?

Like black jades and etc?

[marsh saffron]

Just in general wondering what's coming soon for new switches

[fluid ravine]

Actually

Kahil All POM HE switch

[marsh saffron]

I'm pretty sold on lavenders but wondering if anything else might be coming soon

[fluid ravine]

yeah same here

Need some new switches in general lowkey

[hard moon]

ok, never fucking mind... I've calculated the following:
The Alumaze requires a block of 3x31x11 cm's. Which means 1,023 cm³
Tungsten comes at whopping 19.28 grams per cm³

which means the block for an Alumaze itself made out of tungsten will weight fucking 20!!! kilograms

[marsh saffron]

Now that's a lightweight case

[hard moon]

that's just the raw block

[fluid ravine]

What the flip

[hard moon]

after processing it's about 12 kg

[marsh saffron]

After all the cutting it'll probably come out around 10kg?

[marsh saffron]

Jesus

Accidentally drops case > puts hole in desk

[fluid ravine]

Flipping Nurds

I think you should pass down the knowledge

;)

[hard moon]

well, 20 kg of pure tungsten actually cost you 4k

[fluid ravine]

[hard moon]

after processing you're probably looking at a cost of 6k

[marsh saffron]

Alongside the machining that's probably another what? 1-2k

[hard moon]

for a 12 kg case...

[marsh saffron]

Imagine a tungsten two he case

[hard moon]

NOPE!

[marsh saffron]

Thing would probably weigh near 30kg

[fluid ravine]

LMAO HELL NO

[marsh saffron]

If not more

[hard moon]

more around 23

[fluid ravine]

Literally murder weapon

[hard moon]

a freaking 12 kg Alumaze is a murder weapon already

[fluid ravine]

Compact Nuke fr

[hard moon]

imagine giving it to someone like casually with a single hand like a regular Alumaze

[fluid ravine]

im only like 64 kg

( I speak in lbs)

[marsh saffron]

I use both

[hard moon]

well, 12 kg is 25 lbs

[marsh saffron]

Being Canadian I use both depending on if I'm talking to Americans or EU peeps

[fluid ravine]

O

[hard moon]

i can do both, because i have to deal with a lot of retarded folks

[fluid ravine]

wait how much is 1kg then?

[fluid ravine]

like me!

[marsh saffron]

2.2lbs

[fluid ravine]

hm i see

[marsh saffron]

If you want to just get a really rough estimate easily you can basically just think of it as 2:1 (the more it weighs the further off it will be ofc)

[hard moon]

oh, you're dealing with muricans and brits?

[fluid ravine]

Nah i think ima murican

a Wasian to be in fact (No im not white wash but i feel like i am)

[hard moon]

given the stuff you're listening to you're definitely white washed

[fluid ravine]

I swear I'm not

I still speak in my native language fluently I SWEAR

On my NAILS im not white wash

[hard moon]

given your nick i'd guess vietnamese?

[fluid ravine]

ya

[marsh saffron]

My entire bloodline basically originates from Scotland and Ireland

[fluid ravine]

I wish I was mix (For no absolute reason)

I have weird genes idk

[marsh saffron]

Yeah my genes are basically just white alcoholics

[hard moon]

i'm actually really tempted to send Wooting a block of Tungsten to get an Alumaze built out of it

[fluid ravine]

me= 📏

[fluid ravine]

Hmmm

That'd be cool but do their machines support it?

[fluid ravine]

[hard moon]

i mean they'd definitely need different cutting tools for the exact machine

[fluid ravine]

o

[marsh saffron]

Yeah cutting tungsten is a lot harder than aluminum that's for certain

[hard moon]

but they don't require different machines tho

the temptation of owning the heaviest and most expensive ever made...

[marsh saffron]

Metal 3d printed tungsten case

[hard moon]

or i could send it to Mekaniks since they're located in germany anyways

and let them build a Fjell

[marsh saffron]

Tungsten fjell would be insane

The fjell is a lot thicker/heavier than the alumaze already isn't it?

[hard moon]

yep

but then again, i'm not willing to carry a fucking gym weight with me

[marsh saffron]

Wdym that's a perfectly suitable work keyboard

[hard moon]

for heavy duty?

[marsh saffron]

Co-workers annoying you? Just smack them upside the head with it

[fluid ravine]

i think my whole upper body will snap if i tried to pick that shi up

im fking noodles

[hard moon]

what am i supposed to say? I'm fucking 48 kg's

[fluid ravine]

https://tenor.com/view/dance-happy-dance-silly-weird-wiggly-gif-14501843

[marsh saffron]

I think I'm around 80kg

I've put on some weight recently

[fluid ravine]

conversion ples

[marsh saffron]

185 ish lbs

[fluid ravine]

can i hab some

[hard moon]

and yet i have no issues carrying 30 kg's stuff in case of necessity

[marsh saffron]

Gladly

[fluid ravine]

:D

[hard moon]

i mean my whole PC is about 12 kg's as it is rn

[fluid ravine]

Underweight 15 y/o heh

[hard moon]

and i have no problem lifting my PC

[marsh saffron]

Idk how much my PC weighs

O11 dynamic build so it's not exactly a light weight build

[hard moon]

probably about the same since a case alone weights about 10-12 kg

[marsh saffron]

Yeah case weighs 11.6kg itself

[hard moon]

wrong... 16 kg

just checked the website

[marsh saffron]

The first thing that came up for mine said 11.6

Oh that wasn't the version I had though

[marsh saffron]

Sounds about right

[hard moon]

now imagine that weight for a keyboard

[marsh saffron]

Can't even imagine that for a keyboard that's nuts

[marsh saffron]

I wonder how much different it would sound being so dense?

[hard moon]

probably as dense as the head of some people here on this server

just not as hollow

[marsh saffron]

Were you here for the dude saying he could feel a difference in microseconds

He went on for LITERAL DAYS

[hard moon]

yep...

[marsh saffron]

That was one of the worst ones I've ever seen here

[hard moon]

same density in his brain as frame scammer

well, literally everyone told him it's humanly impossible to sense such a difference

[marsh saffron]

B.. but he has a 500hz monitor and we dont

Iirc this is a quote from him "you can't just trust Google studies, I have tested it myself and feel it"

[hard moon]

pretty sure i can find that guy. Lemme check

pointless, he got banned

[marsh saffron]

Not surprised

[hard moon]

but yeah, it was 29 days ago

[marsh saffron]

Dude was a professional yapper surprised he lasted as long as he did here

[hard moon]

i mean proper 1k polling rate feels like some insanely quick and instantaneous input. And he claims he can feel a difference between 8k and 4k on a 500 Hz monitor?

[marsh saffron]

Yeah and not just like a difference in perceived smoothness

[hard moon]

Sry, but what kinda drugs did you sniff to claim such shit?

[marsh saffron]

He claimed he could genuinely feel the LATENCY difference

[hard moon]

[marsh saffron]

I think the most ironic part, he uses win11

Making claims like that

[hard moon]

the most ironic shit was his claim of 10.5k eDPI

like nope...

[marsh saffron]

Oh god yeah I forgot about that

Claims he can feel 4k to 8k, meanwhile he plays with such a high dpi his mouse forces mouse smoothing

[hard moon]

didn't i request a pic of his setup to prove his shit?

[marsh saffron]

Yeah and he dodged it every, single, time

[hard moon]

bet he didn't deliver at all

never claim shit when you can't back it up. Simple as that

[marsh saffron]

Literally everything he said was the most absurd claims you can possibly make

And his only argument of why he was right was " oh well I tested it myself "

[hard moon]

his claim of a 500 Hz monitor was ridiculous to begin with. No one with some sense would spend 1.5k for a single 24" 500 Hz monitor, let alone the parts required to fire 500 FPS to it

[marsh saffron]

Yeah that 540hz panel really is kinda pointless

Especially with the existence of the 480hz dual mode oled

[marsh saffron]

Bro was basically just calling us broke and that's why we couldn't tell a difference 😭

[hard moon]

imo these monitors are just there for bragging rights until parts like GPUs and CPUs become cheap enough for everyone to fire at such amounts of FPS

[marsh saffron]

Optimum himself has said the dual mode 480hz isn't really any different feeling than 360hz oleds

[hard moon]

i don't require these 380 Hz monitors either most of the time now that i don't compete anymore. Yet they're still satisfying to look at, because they support HDR and are IPS

[marsh saffron]

His main reason for owning it is having a single 4k monitor for viewing and working and an esports ready monitor all in one

I'm not even going to go 360hz

I'm just gonna go 240hz OLED at some point and that'll be end game

[hard moon]

240 hz 1440p/4k is the end game for many

anything beyond is just elitist shit

[marsh saffron]

240@1440 OLED will be my end game because like you said anything beyond is just unnecessary

[hard moon]

unnecessary and unreasonably priced

anyways, this ain't #💬│general

[marsh saffron]

360 has what? A barely noticeable increase in motion clarity for 1.5x/2x the price

[hard moon]

well, back then i paid 190€ for my 144 Hz monitor. For the 380 Hz ones i paid 500 each

[marsh saffron]

And the 380s are ips?

Couldn't imagine what OLED 360+hz costs..

[hard moon]

around 800

[marsh saffron]

Absurd

[hard moon]

i was thinking about to get OLED monitors at first, but viewing at the prices made me wanna puke

[marsh saffron]

Yeah once OLED prices go down and burn in is a complete non issue I'll upgrade

[hard moon]

it's labeled fast IPS basically everywhere

[marsh saffron]

I'm basically just sticking with my xg2431 until I can afford both a 1440@240 OLED, and the hardware required to run it on modern fps games

Which will likely be a long time

Especially with Canadas shitty currency

[hard moon]

funny that AssUs didn't label it free sync premium compatible

because the monitor does support it

[marsh saffron]

I can't wait for the gamers nexus interview with Asus

[hard moon]

gonna be fire, ngl

[marsh saffron]

Supports gsync and freesync?

[hard moon]

yep

[marsh saffron]

Are they even worth using

[hard moon]

not at all actually, especially with ELMB

it's basically just like DyAc 2 from Zowie

[marsh saffron]

I seen so much hype about ulmb 2 but then it just completely disappeared it seems what happened with that?

[hard moon]

wasn't it an nVidia only thing?

[marsh saffron]

Yeah

[hard moon]

i should ask my contact about it. But i guess they didn't give a fuck about it anymore since AI is where the money's at for them

[marsh saffron]

I seen a bunch of hype initially because it seemed crazy good for motion clarity

[hard moon]

wanna see something ridicolous?

wait... lol, it doesn't even list the 540 Hz model for CA

https://zowie.benq.com/en-us/monitor/xl2586x.html

1 fucking k

and not even listed for CA customers

[marsh saffron]

1k for 1080p TN panel is kinda insane

[hard moon]

had to trick the website, but the price doesn't pop up

https://zowie.benq.com/en-ca/monitor/xl2586x.html

probably about 1.6k CAD?

if i have the exchange right in my head that is

[marsh saffron]

It's like 1400 before tax

Probably 1600 after tax though....

[hard moon]

still freaking insane... for us here in europe it's 1.2k after taxes

euros

[marsh saffron]

Yeah our currency is almost as bad as Australia now

[hard moon]

i mean you're talking about a country starting a war against birds and losing it

[marsh saffron]

Hey man emus are pretty scary

[hard moon]

given the .22 cal they used to shoot them down it's actually no surprise

[marsh saffron]

They used 22?????

[hard moon]

yep

[marsh saffron]

I shot 22 when I was 4 years old

Why the fuck would they expect that to work

[hard moon]

they thought these were simply bigger birds

not just tougher birds too

[marsh saffron]

Me and my grandfather used 22 for shooting grouse, not fucking emus

[marsh saffron]

Just a slight oversight

[hard moon]

iirc the biggest shit they used was .38

[marsh saffron]

I could see a couple .38 working if you're a good shot

But 22 would just piss them off

[hard moon]

just build an Alumaze made out of tungsten and go up close and personal

[marsh saffron]

Probably more lethal than a 22 would be

[hard moon]

very likely

but then again, there's a farmer having an emu called Kevin who slaps the bird frequently with a pan and quite hard at that too. The bird still likes to attack him from time to time

[marsh saffron]

I love seeing that dudes yt shorts

He smacks that bird upside the head so hard and it just doesn't even bother it

Emus are tanks

[hard moon]

nah, Kevin's just special

and specially retarded at that too

[marsh saffron]

Kevin gives as many fucks as he has iq

Which is at best 2

[hard moon]

well, tbf, the brain of an emu is like what? just a bit bigger than a bean?

compared to the rest of an emu body it's like 2% of its entire mass

[marsh saffron]

I think it's just a bit bigger than a peanut or something like that yeah

[hard moon]

so it's no wonder Kevin's dense af up there

[marsh saffron]

"A scientist who conducted a comprehensive index of bird intelligence concluded the emu is one of the world's dumbest birds."

[hard moon]

lolololololol

well, guess that explains the population of Australia

[marsh saffron]

So emus are basically just a massive hunk of stupid aggression

Basically just a rhino in bird form

[hard moon]

very likely

i saw that @austere creek

when tungsten made Alumaze?

[marsh saffron]

For the low low cost of 5-6k

[hard moon]

idc, i'd pay it

[austere creek]

saw what

[marsh saffron]

Imagine that 3 in 1 keyboard glarses made but with a tungsten case

[hard moon]

you joined the voice chat and left it

[hard moon]

HEEEEEEEELLL NO!

instead of being a 3 in 1 keyboard it's going to be named a 3 in 1 smack board

[marsh saffron]

That thing already weighed like 30-40kg I think

[crimson sky]

nope

why would it be heavier than 3 regular TKLs

[marsh saffron]

I thought it was about that? How wrong am i

[crimson sky]

so like somewhere 6-12kg

[hard moon]

well, it was around 10 kg, that's for sure

[marsh saffron]

Damn that's.. way way lighter than I thought

[crimson sky]

the giant one was a lot heavier

but it was also a lot heavier than 30-40 iirc

[hard moon]

the one with the glued space bar?

[crimson sky]

the one that was 2 pieces

[hard moon]

yep, that one had a weight of 56 kg

even heavier than myself...

[marsh saffron]

I wonder how much that thing cost to make

[crimson sky]

12k

[marsh saffron]

Jesus christ

[crimson sky]

he said it in the video

[hard moon]

according to Glarses himself each half came with 60 lbs

[crimson sky]

machining large parts is expensive

so are oneoffs

[hard moon]

yep...

[marsh saffron]

That's like 20lb lighter than my sister

For half...

[hard moon]

still, i wouldn't like to carry that shit just for shits and giggles

[marsh saffron]

Kinda wanna play apex but this sinus infection is kicking my ass

[hard moon]

wanna have some forbidden chew gum instead?

[marsh saffron]

Forbidden chew gum?

[hard moon]

https://tenor.com/view/madagscar-penguins-kaboom-gif-9833865

[marsh saffron]

Now that's a spicy stick of gum

[hard moon]

that's the battery ShitSeries sticks into their wireless mice

not even specs printed onto it

[marsh saffron]

I remember me and my buddies played hot potato with my old phone that the battery was about to pop on

[marsh saffron]

Does it at least have good battery life?

Looks kinda big for a mouse battery

[hard moon]

BIG?

Lemme grab a coffee and take a photo next to a scale

[marsh saffron]

Might just be the pic on my phone that makes it look big

[hard moon]

and no, the battery life was shit af

i had to charge it every 3-4 days

not to mention the fact that it's going down to 250 Hz in LP

[marsh saffron]

Tf at what polling rate