🔧│keyboard_modding

[undone flower]

like a typewriter or not idk what one sounds like i would assume it sounds like that tho

[harsh dove]

lol yeah I like how clacky it was when he put the mx switches in

[lament grotto]

Ghost of Keycapima

Its a really nice lookin set, NGL. love the colors

Id love to see it with like.. blood red accent keys, vs dark red.

[sage flicker]

hey bois. Got my jades with 28g springs really quickly. lol Shenzen shipping speed is nuts. Anyway, it's better than L50s for sure, but it's not that much lighter. Wanted even more. o well.

[lament grotto]

https://www.spritdesigns.com/product-page/mx go get 15g springs

i wouldn't recommend lower...

under 15 gets a lil.. iffy with return

[harsh dove]

Have to be careful with spring selection when working with HE switches as they have to be non-magnetic springs

And about 15-16mm

[lament grotto]

ooh good point

Yeah.. might be harder to fight super light springs that work well with HE springs

[austere creek]

reposting this here due to the other channel having been removed:

Someone asked about spring diameters earlier - Here they are, so I can pin them for future reference.

Inner diameter 5.5 mm
Wire diameter 0.25~0.3 mm
Free length (not pressed) 16.5 mm (length might change when the start & end gf is different)

[lament grotto]

This is why you got big brains

[harsh dove]

Thanks Tony

[pure magnet]

Just get anxiety with open holes

[sage flicker]

nice yeah, the MX springs are magnetic I think. Not designed for HE. I have to find specifically for that. But i just realized this: I think L35s I bought are lighter than the aliexpress ones. 20g bottom force vs 28g bottom. Idk how I missed that.

the l35s feel lighter too.

[austere creek]

mx springs also dont have the required ID to begin with

also i didnt know jades have 28g springs

[sage flicker]

nah they don't. They have 30g +/- 7, according to their website. 28g spring is separate purchase from aliexpress

[austere creek]

i thought they used 45cN end force

[sage flicker]

yeah, feels like that

[austere creek]

so around 45g

[sage flicker]

30g is the starting i guess

[austere creek]

also is the springs you bought even giving end force aka force required for full compression or just starting force

[sage flicker]

ah wait. Getting confused then. L35s have endforce of 35g?

[austere creek]

yes

[harsh dove]

Yeah basically 45-50

[sage flicker]

ok that's why i bought those springs. It shows 28g as bottom force, so it should be lighter, but the L35s feel lighter.

[austere creek]

theres no point in advertising anything but bottom out forces for HE switches as the exact weight depends on the actuation point set per switch

[harsh dove]

^^

Which is why it bothers me that Jades only list initial

[sage flicker]

ic

[harsh dove]

Even tho they show the graph that shows it end at about 45-50

[austere creek]

the l 35 should be around 20g at the start

since it basically (not exactly but close enough) just moves the L45 graph 10g down across the board

so around 20-35g

full range

[sage flicker]

https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256806086739065.html?spm=a2g0o.order_list.order_list_main.5.21ef18021bdpN6&gatewayAdapt=glo2usa - this is what I bought. it's a longer spring than the l35, prob why it feels different as well.

18.5mm

L35 feels smoother

[austere creek]

well the length has to change for different weights

but theres also general other factors like general quality of material and QC

[sweet oak]

200g spring

[harsh dove]

Mansen tested the 80g springs

Definitely a workout

[sweet oak]

Guess i gotta make an investment then, wooting workout

[austere creek]

id highly recommend 150-250g springs if you plan to do a lot of racing games or such that need a bit more precise analog controls. swapped springs on my old flaretech twe back then (since those took mx springs) and it was a bliss to drive around with

[sweet oak]

Ill keep that in mind if i get a racing game craze again

[austere creek]

ofc first try if you even like the way a wooting plays in general as a controller replacement

[brazen sparrow]

Wooting racing pad?

[sweet oak]

Yeah true, i havent tried that yet.

[sage flicker]

so with further testing, 28g springs, due to the longer spring itself, has less pushback at the bottom. But the difference is so hard to notice. Comparable pretty much. But 18.5mm springs work with HE.

so if anyone ever finds <20g weight HE springs, lmk. lol

what happens if I use regular steel MX springs? Can't adjust actuation?

[harsh dove]

It’ll interfere with the magnets

[austere creek]

well itll change the magnetic field to be specific. so the sensors wont measure the correct values

[harsh dove]

^^

[sage flicker]

I've tried 12-15g on choc switches before. They feel great. 😄

insanely light. But perfectly alright.

[median spade]

actuating your keyboard by breathe must be nice

[pure magnet]

Would magneto be able to use a Wooting keyboard

[sage flicker]

i'm down for it. Less fatigue when spamming BB!

i felt fatigue with L45s, I need cloud keys.

[austere creek]

yes? why would he not be

he can control his powers

[median spade]

fatigue with 45

now that is something

might juspt be arthritis instead

[pure magnet]

Need to watch the Romulus trailer

[paper bloom]

I get tired with a typing degree of a 7 LOL

Now i am forced too change from a 7 to a 4

[pure magnet]

https://youtu.be/OzY2r2JXsDM?si=TPB7hkHyEF2lC99f

We need a gmk set

Looks a bit like Scream Alien

Teenagers being chased by the Alien

[harsh dove]

GMK Symbiote

[fluid ravine]

I think my dad said i could borrow that :D

[sweet oak]

[polar girder]

I know the pain

[median spade]

Sounds like you too need to adjust your setup

[sage flicker]

the 3.5mm of the jades is noticeable and nice. 👍

[mossy thorn]

Am i crazy, or was there a pinned message that had a big list of good sites for key caps?

[harsh dove]

https://www.alexotos.com/keyboard-vendor-list/

[mossy thorn]

Bless friend

[uneven cradle]

it's a tough one

[harsh dove]

Yeah, after inspection and consideration, I prefer the layout and art on the Rubrehaku more

[uneven cradle]

I think we should be getting some prototype pics soon

I'm still on the fence

[harsh dove]

https://tenor.com/view/fence-fail-gif-7273437

[uneven cradle]

fr

[harsh dove]

[uneven cradle]

can't go wrong either way

[harsh dove]

Yeah they're both great

[thorn zealot]

Is the zoom65 v3 he like all the other he boards

Performance wise

[median spade]

Other one is not a real jane

so Kohaku better

[harsh dove]

Not real?

[median spade]

board been around for a long time unless you mean what the weight looks like

Good janes has brass weight, etc

last time it was only aluminum when they did the Jane ME

[harsh dove]

Ah okay

[median spade]

was not as good compared to Jane CE and Jane V2

[harsh dove]

Yeah I head the V2 was nice

This is called TGR Jane iirc

[median spade]

Yeah they're all TGR since it's his design and so forth

I just left that part out haha

[harsh dove]

oop

fair enough

[median spade]

[harsh dove]

Either way

Kohaku better

xD

[uneven cradle]

it has a brass weight tho

[median spade]

Oh they doing a proper jane this time nice

[harsh dove]

Well then

Tent Euro

[uneven cradle]

it's the actual Jane V3

[harsh dove]

That makes more sense

cause I was wondering what this would be called

[median spade]

either or will be good

[harsh dove]

Yeah

Art is too good on both of them

[uneven cradle]

https://youtu.be/Qm5ESHqJmjQ?t=2579

here's a video of the jane prototype

[median spade]

meh hard to judge from this

korean sound tests always vastly different

they do something with their audio

hmm interesting

[harsh dove]

I got that screw tray

[median spade]

changing the weight design with what made the jane so successful

have they said the price of the jane

i know kokahku will be like $600 per the usual

[harsh dove]

Not that I've seen

My guess was around $500-700

[uneven cradle]

looks like it has two weights still has the toblerone weight

idk that much about the original/v2 to tell the difference

[median spade]

just inner weight stuff

[uneven cradle]

from the video he says it's around 3.5kg unbuilt

that's a hefty boy

[median spade]

yeah pretty heavy

almost like my f1-8x

[harsh dove]

such a nice board

[uneven cradle]

Interesting he said the Jane also has an add on extra that has Mickey Mouse on the back they just didn't include it in the renders because of potential copy right issues

[tawdry ore]

Okay update got some long pole gateron stablizers (screw in) and they removed a small issue with teetering

[heady terrace]

@median spade not the same

[median spade]

Lots of factors with sound tests

Room setup, my desk vs yours, etc

My sound test is accurate to what I hear, but in my room at my desk and so on

[harsh dove]

Sounds about right

[uneven cradle]

my bank account 💸

[harsh dove]

https://tenor.com/view/wallet-gif-25866507

[uneven cradle]

and I still have to decide on switches too

[harsh dove]

Not putting the Rubrehose on there?

[uneven cradle]

idk how are they you tried the Zakus?

[harsh dove]

Nah I haven't

oh wait

you said switches lmao

my b

I was thinkin keycaps

Might try some HMX switches in there

[uneven cradle]

they do have switches but I prefer tactiles over linears

[harsh dove]

Fair

[uneven cradle]

but maybe I'll just get em anyway

people say they're good

[harsh dove]

Yeah fair enough, I wanna put BCPs in another board I have coming

[median spade]

tactiles in jane is a crime!

[uneven cradle]

maybe I just get the rubrehose switches

kinda sad it's a 35 pack and I need 87

guess I'll have 18 spare switches

[gusty yoke]

What’s the difference between 1.2mm and 1.6mm? I’m looking for stabilizers to get for my 60HE+ build. Just saw the Meletrix WS stabs and it came with two options 1.2mm and 1.6mm. Other than the WS stabilizers any recommendations?

[cyan zodiac]

buy rubrehose switches

[marsh saffron]

1.2/1.6mm thick pcb i think

pretty sure wootings is 1.6mm but id wait for someone more knowledgable to reply

[harsh dove]

Wooting PCB is 1.6mm

[uneven cradle]

this keeps happening I just bought them

[cyan zodiac]

[gusty yoke]

Thanks!

[gusty yoke]

You too thanks!

[uneven cradle]

you also got a keycap set?

[cyan zodiac]

nah

i mean if i want one i just take from stock

[uneven cradle]

not mine tho right

[cyan zodiac]

[harsh dove]

Those were Steve's keycaps you took

[cyan zodiac]

[uneven cradle]

have you tried the zakus?

[cyan zodiac]

yes

zaku lit

geon black are like 99 similar

very clacky

[uneven cradle]

i do enjoy a nice clack

[cyan zodiac]

rubrehose switches also very similar to zaku

[harsh dove]

👀

[cyan zodiac]

long pole goodness

[harsh dove]

Gimme some from stock pls ty

[cyan zodiac]

make us wooting aus vendor then we can do some business

[uneven cradle]

I did just buy some long pole stabs

[cyan zodiac]

tho if wooting would to have aus vendor it would not be us

probs mwave

[uneven cradle]

i'll take some cheaper shipping fees

[cyan zodiac]

[uneven cradle]

where's cafege ship from? swear half the aus shops i order from are located in perth

looks like Sydney

[cyan zodiac]

syd

[uneven cradle]

from the TGR disc

[wary brook]

People, what is the best place to buy appeling and quality keycaps? Any recomendations?

[marsh saffron]

https://www.alexotos.com/keyboard-vendor-list/

[visual sonnet]

does anyone have a 60he with just a case deal to the tofu60?

want to know how it sounds

[fleet shoal]

Hi guys. Have my 60he since january this year. i was thinking about ordering the alumaze or the tofu60.
Ordered today the Tofu. Do you think a good ?

[uneven cradle]

both are good options

I have a tofu60 myself I'm happy with it

[fleet shoal]

i bought the brass weight also.
Which foam do you use? That one which came with the tofu? or did you use the one from the wooting case?

[marsh saffron]

I prefer the one that comes with the tofu

[paper bloom]

Been using it

Since last year

Is good

I recently swapped out my stabs as well to the swag keys

But i overlubed my space bar by accident

But i do have some left wrist pains from the tofu

Probs cuz of my angling

And my wrist to surface ratio

[paper bloom]

I ran the ones with wooting and the tofus

Those 2 are not bad

For a poppier sounds go for the wooting one if u dun have it run the tofus

[visual sonnet]

the tofu comes with foam?

[paper bloom]

Yes

[visual sonnet]

the tofu60? not the redux?

[paper bloom]

Its the soft pad

I meant the rdux

The tofu60 orig does not hv it if i am not wrong

[visual sonnet]

yeah i am getting the original one

absolute steal

[paper bloom]

Then run the

[visual sonnet]

$90

[visual sonnet]

the?

[paper bloom]

Packing pad

[visual sonnet]

what’s that

[paper bloom]

U can buy off of amazon or some shit

Those packing foam

If not run it without first

[visual sonnet]

ohhh, i know what you mean

[paper bloom]

Or run it

Yea

[visual sonnet]

i’ll probably just run the wooting one tbh

[paper bloom]

Yr

Ye*

[visual sonnet]

i wanna burger mount but the problem is

20 silicones….

i need like 6

[paper bloom]

U can keep the 20

Incase 1 of ur 6

Break

Make sure to get a m2x5 or a m2x6

Screw

No sharp ends

[visual sonnet]

https://www.amazon.com.au/OTOTEC-Silicone-Compressor-Engines-Cylinders/dp/B0CRGQCD7K/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.BT0YM-02DwWHVY7XjbedIlWJZ-298qOdlR0Aadhyd6NcmgsLCSBBA8sLQPm9OQpjBcJKGZZDvSCfyAm7AhmLVkA7P46IeaYLClOt1sOqggNc02XQVJ3hGYFD-vUir-i23kWKO2c2nHGriImLAzRGWKz041ovF-3jImHT8kH23ikyimY3FuXdWbjYgIn-eu46akyKuGcSwD_3Yqf3jUKp_w.TOfPc5S0mh7o0mP5QYglng5rT1C2i2MfD1yyFGF1Tps&dib_tag=se&geniuslink=true&keywords=uxcell%2Bsilicone%2Bo%2Bring%2B5mm%2Bod%2B1mm%2Bid%2B2mm%2Bwidth%2Bvmq%2Bseal%2Brings%2Bgasket%2Bwhite%2Bpack%2Bof%2B20&qid=1717339115&refinements=p_85%3A5444100051&rnid=5444099051&rps=1&sr=8-1&th=1&psc=1

holy shit

anyways i’m getting those

guess i’ll have 100

any mods you recommend for a good deep sound? apart from lubing, and in a tofu60 case

[marsh saffron]

Could pick up PC plate and use the silicone plate insert, I find it has a slightly deeper tone

[lament grotto]

Use a decent dye-sub keycap. They generally have a deeper sound than double shot

[visual sonnet]

like the one wooting offers?

[fleet shoal]

hmm so better with the wrist rest from wooting?

[visual sonnet]

i’ve heard PC plates for this board is a nightmare

[marsh saffron]

how so?

[marsh saffron]

sound wise or wdym?

[visual sonnet]

trying to find one

[honest sapphire]

wooting sells one on their website

about 27 dollars with shipping

[visual sonnet]

link?

[visual sonnet]

also this @lament grotto

[marsh saffron]

https://wooting.io/product/60he-pc-switch-plate?Layout=ANSI+Kit&Color=White

i have the black one it looks great

[honest sapphire]

^

[lament grotto]

Wooting sells them literally in the accessories section. And those or others, it’s about material. Pbt dye sub.

[marsh saffron]

Black PC plate with white tofu

[visual sonnet]

the keycaps, right?

[visual sonnet]

that’s tuff

layer down the line i’ll cop

[visual sonnet]

shit

what did i get

i got the topographic one

[marsh saffron]

oh the take control ones

[visual sonnet]

magnetic wave

yeah

[marsh saffron]

those are dye sub pbt as well

[visual sonnet]

sorry, had a long day and i’m not thinking right

[visual sonnet]

ah sweet

should sound good then

that and a tofu60 case with the braided coiled cable

[marsh saffron]

these look good but...

https://kbdfans.com/products/pbtfans-doubleshot-bow

BoW >>

[marsh saffron]

love how these look though

[visual sonnet]

they were off the same website

they can come packaged together

my tofu60 case was actually a surprise gift (although she sucks at hiding it) from my girlfriend because it was dirt cheap and hard to come by since they stopped making them

so i kinda have a case and no keyboard… LOL

[marsh saffron]

ive got a tofu redux

[paper bloom]

Yea

If u wanna elevate

[visual sonnet]

what’s the difference

comes with foam

that’s it

[marsh saffron]

not quite sure, just know that its the current production model for it

[visual sonnet]

i’ll stick with the og

[harsh dove]

They added removable standoffs so people can oring mount and added adjustable usb port to be more compatible with different PCBs

[paper bloom]

@harsh dove did u slightly lube ur knight stabs

[harsh dove]

Yes

[paper bloom]

I mightve overlubed mine LOL

YEA OK IM FUCKED

U didnt do the syringe lube right ?@harsh dove or did u

Mb for the 2 pings

Combo

[harsh dove]

Yeah I did

They don’t need a lot

[paper bloom]

How much u slap it in tho

[harsh dove]

Just a modest amount, not so much that it starts coming out of the stem/housing lol

[paper bloom]

Ok am fucked

I did mine a lil too much

Looks like i gotta salvage it with the brush then

Thanks again

Gotta go back and settle this issue

[paper bloom]

Sorry for the third and final ping, a modest so its like inside and thats it right?

It isnt to the point where the lube would either be a bit out or be completely filled

Like just halfway in

and i legit did not expect the swag keys to be this lube sensitive

[harsh dove]

I mean I can see it but yeah not so much that it’s like “leaking” out

[harsh dove]

They’re not lol just don’t overthink it

Less is more

[paper bloom]

Ok that makes much more sense Thanks again

[paper bloom]

Ok i'll keep a eye on that

[harsh dove]

Are you using dielectric grease?

[paper bloom]

Kryptox 205G0

Didnt wanna run dielectric cuz of the oil its a little too much compared to the kryptox

[harsh dove]

Ah okay

[paper bloom]

Or shld i just say fk it and run it LOL

[harsh dove]

Yeah that lube is thinner so might have to use a bit more but more also means possible more mess/leakage

Just cause it’s so thin, it settles differently than dielectric

[paper bloom]

It isnt just that the injection method for it

Completely makes ur stabs mush

[harsh dove]

Nah

[paper bloom]

Unless i added 2 much

[harsh dove]

Yeah

[paper bloom]

Yea ok i need to put way lesser pressure then

Cuz when i did it i saw it wasnt leaking until i mashed it down

UNLESS i go and take a bit of a insane route and use the dip and brush method or just put a lil bit

But i gotta pay attention

But yea thanks again

Will keep in mind to lessen the injection kryptox

[harsh dove]

That’s what I used to do before I got syringes

[fluid ravine]

It's funny how I put some grease in my krytox syringe and stil havent used the syringe once.

yet i still use the dipping method into the grease

[paper bloom]

I better do that

I dont wanna use the synringe anymore

Shits like if u put low pressure the more it will ooze out

[paper bloom]

But yea idk

[fickle nest]

Hey everyone, so I'm planning to dedicate some unused keys on my keyboard to media control and shortcuts and I'm looking for keycaps that have media control/misc legends, like play pause volume etc. any idea where I could find some?

[stray tiger]

https://www.wasdkeyboards.com/media-shortcuts-cherry-mx-keycap-set.html

[harsh dove]

New X-Ray Cable Prototype to match perfectly with KBDFans X-Ray keycap set

[polar girder]

damn bro

that's fire

and i love the no QD

fk

yeah i need an 8-core iem cable with no DC

[harsh dove]

More than certain Randall can make you one like that

[elfin garnet]

sick

[smoky breach]

Thoughts on alu switch plate with jades

[harsh dove]

Good luck getting it to sound good lol

I’ve been on a journey trying to get HE to sound good with Aluminum

Your ears may differ from mine

@stray tiger thanks bro ❤️

[stray tiger]

Love the style of his mats so much

[gilded hinge]

ooooo
where did you get this

[harsh dove]

I know right, glad you introduced me to them

[harsh dove]

Inkwellkeys

[uncut musk]

looks sick

[uneven cradle]

and soon you'll have a very expensive matching keyboard 💸

[fluid ravine]

ANUDA ONE

https://tenor.com/view/djkhaled-another-one-anotherone-gif-4905376

[harsh dove]

Also got the Durock V3 Plate Mount stabs delivered today

[fluid ravine]

yoooooooooooooooooooooooo

[harsh dove]

Waiting on the Stupid Stabs too

[fluid ravine]

Man thats stupid

We want them now!!

[harsh dove]

Lol I'm just testing them, idk if I'll switch to them

I really enjoy my SK Knights

[fluid ravine]

I wanna try em 👀

[sharp vigil]

Sick, where'd you get this?

Oh wait I can read

forgot

[smoky breach]

Are the worth over stock wooting stabs

[harsh dove]

Honestly, stock wooting stabs are great, I run them on my tofu build

I just like testing new designs

[fluid ravine]

buh buh but

lol

cmon

wheres the but

:D

[harsh dove]

No but lol

I've never had issues with stock wooting stabs

[fluid ravine]

lol

[fluid ravine]

If any of them good, then ima try them

[marsh saffron]

If I wanted new stabs for non + 60he where should I look?

[median spade]

Amazon

Or just search plate mount stabs

[urban harbor]

man those neo lavenders are a great price

considering picking them up and the knight stabs

and...they are on the way

[hazy vortex]

Before and after

[urban harbor]

"plumber's mod" is a much better name i vote everyone should use that

[hazy vortex]

The holee mod works but I feel more secure and it seems better doing the plumbers mod instead and it feels a bit more stable as well

A very nice mod

Worth the time

[urban harbor]

ah sorry i thought they were the same thing

great improvement in the sound though

[marsh saffron]

i might take my stabs out and relube/tune them

[fluid ravine]

Me leaving my stabs fully stock be like

[hazy vortex]

Ngl they didn’t need the mod but it does feel ever so slightly smoother

Nah this keyboard stock is amazing

This was just for personal reasons but it doesn’t NEED it

It didn’t need the switches to be lubed either but I wanted to do it evenly to my desire

And now they sound a lil deeper

[paper bloom]

Imagine we didnt need stabilizers but we just run a single switch but have 2 lego pieces to keep stable from bottoming

[fluid ravine]

split spacebars

[paper bloom]

Split spacebar but its lego

[hazy vortex]

I added some foam to the keycaps with stabilizers and it sounds crisp

[shell geode]

Hoping Iqunix's EZ Series does well. Would love to see a real challenge to Wooting

[pure magnet]

Which foam? Like the GMK foam condoms? Won't it mess with the settings? I also thought about dampening between the stem and keycap bottom but people said I shouldn't do it

Probably affects the bottom out range only?

[hazy vortex]

Even with foam pads under the switches I just disconnected the keyboard and connected it again and it self calibrated. Even the slightest tap works even though it’s slightly elevated

It’s just poron switch pads

[marsh saffron]

yes but what about bottom out?

[hazy vortex]

Yea the bottom out works well

I tested it in wootility

It seems to just calibrate

Works perfectly

[marsh saffron]

try setting it to 4mm and see if it still works when you bottom it out? if that isnt what you already tried

[hazy vortex]

Pretty sure that’s why gateron jades work without any extra config yet they have a closed bottom

[hazy vortex]

Yea I tested it

[marsh saffron]

damn cool

[hazy vortex]

Not every switch is gonna be perfectly strong since they use magnets and you can’t perfectly magnetize every piece to be at the same strength so the board does the calculations and calibration

Works like a charm

[marsh saffron]

well i know it recalibrates but i thought it might not work the greatest even with it

i was wrong

[hazy vortex]

I made sure to test two switches with foam under it and test two switches next to it and they performed exactly the same

Then I applied it to all the switches and it doesn’t seem to hinder the 0.1mm or bottom out

[paper bloom]

What switches?

[hazy vortex]

I’m just using the regular lekker 60 switches

But I do plan on upgrading

To the jades

[paper bloom]

Jades are good but make sure to run a stem spacer or a long pole

[untold wigeon]

anyone have recommendations for a good plastic case that is lower profile and less angled than stock?

[visual sonnet]

can i use an MX opener

for switch

[radiant hound]

nice

[crimson sky]

yes

[visual sonnet]

sweet

i wanna lube switches

but getting everything is a pain in the ass

[untold wigeon]

lubing switches is a pain in the ass

[visual dagger]

anyone knows a shop that has the white tofu60 in stock? and that delivers in eu?

[untold wigeon]

plus the lekker switches are so hilariously simple

sound won't change

only thing lube will do is reduce switch wear

like it's so simple it's just 3 plastic pieces, 1 magnet and 1 spring

you could spill the most gruesome crud onto the switches and as long as they can go up and down they'll work

unless it's molten metal or magnetic putty then you're screwed

[shrewd verge]

am i meant to use the wooting screws or the tofu screws when screwing the pcb into the tofu60?

[visual dagger]

i think both work

[visual dagger]

where did you buy the case?

[shrewd verge]

kbdfans

[marsh saffron]

ive lubed 2 60hes and my buddy lubed his, there is definitely a sound difference

[velvet plume]

Has anyone replaced their plate with the fr4 ?

[untold wigeon]

yeah but it's minimal to other mods

[velvet plume]

Both work fine I used wootings

[uneven cradle]

stock lubing was updated to be much better around the time the l45s came out

[harsh dove]

Doesn’t matter

[harsh dove]

Yeah, it’s not bad

[untold wigeon]

has anyone machined an aluminum case for a full size yet? is this the right place to ask around for designs of the original case?

[austere creek]

a german company wanted to make one. they estimated the cost at 200-300eur per case. it has been silent around progress for quite a while now

[untold wigeon]

https://github.com/WootingKb/wooting-design/tree/main/wooting-two-he
for the next person who comes looking. I might be the first

[uneven cradle]

well if you do post some pics for us

[crimson sky]

I mean I would still just use a WASD alu case

and modify it a bit to fit a wooting two as well as the plate

[untold wigeon]

recommendation?

[crimson sky]

https://www.wasdkeyboards.com/open-box-b-grade-black-anodized-aluminum-keyboard-case-for-104-key-or-105-key.html

or an A grade one obv

• a used compatible WASD keyboard to harvest the plate and possibly daughterboard

you loose out on 4 keys obv

imo not a big loss since you can just put those on the fn layer

you still need to remove some pillars in that case

these two

[untold wigeon]

interesting, thanks!

[stray tiger]

https://youtu.be/79RcRFiSKm0?si=CGVJPteAMmQkkUeG

[harsh dove]

👀

[uneven cradle]

Geon seems to really be getting into HE

i dig it

[brazen sparrow]

OOO

Semi closed bottoms I’m curious what it’ll sound like

👀

[stray tiger]

Watch the video to find out

[uneven cradle]

wish it was in a case that wasn't the holy60

[velvet plume]

How did you attach the plate using spacers ?

[cyan zodiac]

he making venom pcbs

the HE master

[tawdry tree]

It is Grain Gold. Nice to see something different from them instead of clones.

[sweet oak]

I like the music they’re using

kinda wanna get some

[median spade]

testing on a holy60 tho kind of scuff

[stray tiger]

Let's you hear the switch without case variables a bit better though

[harsh dove]

True

[fluid ravine]

Morning Modders!

[fluid ravine]

Hmm louder than the jades..

Would it be because of the travel distance?

Geon RAW: 3.4mm
Jades: 3.5mm

.1mm difference, same materials

hmm

[robust seal]

So the list of compatable cases, is it still accurate for the 60he+? That tofu 60 is lookin reallll nice lol

[fluid ravine]

Oh shiet same price as the Neo Lavenders for me

[fluid ravine]

Yes
the 60he (+) has a universal 60% tray mount case compatibility

Ones that say compatible on the list will work with the 60he (+)

[stray tiger]

https://omnitype.com/collections/happy-hour

[polar girder]

RAW's not stem swappable for lekkers. rats

seems like a solid switch. wonder if ther addressed magnet consistency

[harsh dove]

My shippin is $57

So I’m waiting till they go to other vendors

Plus I’m not too hype about them tbh

[polar girder]

ya i'll pass

[polar girder]

thanks for sharing

more tempted by a spring pack tho ngl

[fluid ravine]

Yoink

[polar girder]

go even lighter than 45

I need to buy a frog mini

[fluid ravine]

oh yeah i just notice, Geon's shipping is $5+

for me

[harsh dove]

I have some slightly more interesting switches on the way anyway

[harsh dove]

I get $30+ added cause I’m “remote location”

Got my own private island yanno

So DHL be taxin me

[fluid ravine]

D:

[polar girder]

like what

[stray tiger]

https://tenor.com/view/rainn-wilson-shh-secret-prank-gif-17131726

[harsh dove]

Hehehe

[polar girder]

ping me when we find a silent HE 🤓

[median spade]

Probs wouldn’t need to stem swap

Tolerances are better

[fluid ravine]

Is tat wat i tink it is

[harsh dove]

Another HE switch, yeah

[sweet oak]

[fluid ravine]

oh boi

Heh, i remember this

[harsh dove]

Dual stage spring

[idle pier]

How is that good

[tawdry tree]

backspace got us white 20Us, dual rail jades and 2 stage springed jades

[harsh dove]

The design of the two-stage spring makes it longer than a normal “one-stage” spring. This means that the spring is compressed more than a one-stage spring during the unactivated state, and it reaches its bottom out weight more quickly. This makes the downpress feel more firm and consistent, as there is a smaller range of forces between the beginning of the keypress until bottom out or even actuation. In addition, the upstroke after lifting your finger is noticeably faster, meaning that there is the ability to rapidly repeat keystrokes in a shorter amount of time. Two-stage springs are also less likely to have spring ping because being more compressed even in the unactivated state means that there is less room for the spring to move/rotate around.

[tawdry tree]

Wooting x Optimum Case 🔥

[harsh dove]

Sheesh

[idle pier]

Ok so why dont they all do it? Cost?

[sweet oak]

holy moly

Its so good

[tawdry tree]

If the standoffs are removable

but it doesn’t look like it

still looks really good

[fluid ravine]

https://tenor.com/view/community-ken-jeong-ben-chang-cant-see-small-gif-5154350

I cant see that shi

white pimple lookin ah

But clean tho

[fluid ravine]

Yoink
Puting that in my note book

[sweet oak]

[fluid ravine]

def gonna need it, memory lost be like

[harsh dove]

Idk lol

[fluid ravine]

Me when old

but young

[sweet oak]

https://tenor.com/view/old-man-gif-4679601

[fluid ravine]

real haha

[rich monolith]

Looking forward to the rip price the new case will have

[sweet oak]

My wallets gonna be destroyed

[stray tiger]

https://x.com/WootingKB/status/1798778903743324342?s=19

wooting (@WootingKB) on X

We have created something special and are excited to show it to you for the first time in this video 🙀

https://t.co/sF7Z8Ms9RE

Twitter · Jun 6, 2024, 6:08 PM

[fluid ravine]

@quiet bay

ooo

[stray tiger]

I'm loving the final raw finish and that Optimum collab is mmmmm

[median spade]

Pretty simple looking but not bad

[harsh dove]

Yeah definitely interested

[tawdry tree]

It looks like the inside bottom of the case is almost right up against the pcb

which is interesting

[sweet oak]

Very tasty

[quiet bay]

Mm that white wrist rest looks clean

[fluid ravine]

i think you should get it ;D

[fluid ravine]

frrr

watch optimum collab finna be 200

:D

[fluid ravine]

si si

[quiet bay]

yooo stop tryna persuade me!1

idk i have to see reviews first

to see if it has any quality issues or something

[harsh dove]

Need that 5090, no more keyboards

[polar girder]

wtf is this

How does it mount?

1 piece tray mount or what

[tawdry tree]

tray

[polar girder]

Yeah trash

[tawdry tree]

maybe

[polar girder]

Need a solid 2 piece full gasket mount

I mean trash for me lol

Not actual trash

I just want diff mount for 60HE

[tawdry tree]

yeah I mean it might be trash but I think the case isn’t deep at all

[polar girder]

I’m over friction mount in a tray mount case

[tawdry tree]

removable standoffs would be good for that

but that doesn’t seem the case either

[harsh dove]

It’s also probs just a prototype

So bound to make changes

I can already see they have alumaze feet on it

And I also expected it to be minimal and nothing crazy cause …it’s optimum lol

Bro has a grey/black keyboard with blank keys lol

[tawdry tree]

woot x optimum!!

[polar girder]

Gasket mount 60HE case when

Silent HE when

[polar girder]

True

I think I’m good on closed bottom idk

Seems to come with the clack and reduced travel

[median spade]

Wish they had done 80he mounting with it but for 60he

but alas

[polar girder]

Exactly

Was hoping

[harsh dove]

Two-Piece Isolated Gasket Mount 65TMR

That’s the next woot board

[harsh dove]

You tried jades already or no? Or any closed bottom switches?

[polar girder]

No

I just have l60, l45 and raptors

Rocking l45/raptor hybrid rn

I just want quiet thock

[tawdry tree]

@devout torrent looks sick man, how is it?

[devout torrent]

so far so good

it looks insane

and the typing feels fine even with how bad of experience I had with the old everglide switches

I also got the closed bottom everglide switches to test out

[harsh dove]

Ah okay

[devout torrent]

they also included the full set of keycaps so I can use the clears on any board

which I was not expecting

I am trying to figure out hte software still, I put it in beast mode which is I hope the 8k mode lol

[tawdry tree]

closed bottom ever glides? I didn’t know those were for everglide as well

[tawdry tree]

sweet

[devout torrent]

yeah they are pretty new and for some reason also called sticky rice

so it just makes it more confusing

they are a slightly lighter pink

[median spade]

what is this said keyboard

[devout torrent]

the software is like half translated only

[tawdry tree]

yeah they are grain gold’s boxed stem closed bottom raptors basically

[devout torrent]

yeah pretty much

[tawdry tree]

by the way, those caps are fine to use

glossy

not slippery af?

[devout torrent]

nah they feel fine to me

more grip than normal keycaps tbh

[harsh dove]

Material?

Is it PC?

[devout torrent]

I am assuming pc

[harsh dove]

Yeah

Likely

I feel like PC can be grippy

Depends on the finish really

[tawdry tree]

when your hands aren’t moist

lmao

[harsh dove]

lol yeah

[devout torrent]

I have pretty dry hands so works out well for me

[harsh dove]

That’s why I don’t like ceramic keys

[tawdry tree]

nice

[harsh dove]

Plus legends fade on cerakeys

Unless that’s been addressed

[tawdry tree]

prob same for the pc caps

[tawdry tree]

any interesting features?

besides more rgb than woot and razer combined

[devout torrent]

I am still exploring and trying to google translate the stuff that has yet to be translated

and yeha insane rgb

rgb keys + underglow

[tawdry tree]

on a battery

[devout torrent]

you can set RT in 0.01 increments

with a min value of 0.1mm

pretty crazy

[harsh dove]

It’s wireless?

[tawdry tree]

min value of .1

hmmm

[devout torrent]

no its not but software has wireless options which is wierd

yeah like most sensetive is 0.1

[harsh dove]

Interesting

[devout torrent]

but you can do 0.11

you acn also manually calibrate which is nice

[harsh dove]

Should show us the PCB model number

[tawdry tree]

oh lmao, I thought it was cause of that

[devout torrent]

and it displays the data per key

yeah this software is for a few boards I think

so it has some weird stuff

there's also a 3x brightness mode

that makes the LEDs crazy bright

prob will break them over time

[tawdry tree]

I think manual call is the way tbh

[devout torrent]

yeah I think having both is good though

makes it easier for most users

you can see the top/bottom mag values in the software which is cool

[harsh dove]

Only thing with wireless boards is you gotta fit that battery somewhere

[tawdry tree]

I have done it a couple times now and it takes like 30 sec at most and u never have to do it again until u change switches.

[devout torrent]

this has modtap, DKS and all that as well

[tawdry tree]

that is interesting

[devout torrent]

and it can do rapid fire like on a controller

so you can set how many actions/second

and it allows for macros as well

[tawdry tree]

on board?

[devout torrent]

yeah

[tawdry tree]

damn

[devout torrent]

even does mouse

the toggles are for

hold for macro

or press to repeat

[tawdry tree]

I might just grab it as well if possible 😂

[devout torrent]

there's some odd stuff as well like no brightness control

might be a hotkey though

[tawdry tree]

the values listed, is that the raw data?

[devout torrent]

yeah that's the currently stored data

[tawdry tree]

neat

no optional split space right?

[devout torrent]

yeah unfortanatley not

but I have the hemu otw that does have that

very excited for that one

[tawdry tree]

yeah

you should be 😂

where did u get the su from?

[devout torrent]

I ordered from shenzen yaya

one sec

[tawdry tree]

ship internationally?

[devout torrent]

yeah they do

shipping can be pricey though

the board was 140

and I paid 30 for 100 of the closed bottoms

• 43 in ship

but it got here in 3 days from when it shipped

[tawdry tree]

that’s insane

insanly good

[devout torrent]

there are the alu versions too

but idk what the cost is on those

and those should be gasket

this one doesnt seem to be gasket becuase of the clear case

[harsh dove]

Probably $200+

[devout torrent]

the Japanese reseller has it for 170 USD

so probably cheaper if you get it from the factory

and his pricing includes 10% japanese VAT

but as far as I know the alu versions are not ready yet

I got an early copy of the clear one, doesn't even have retali packaging yet

they shipped in ae68 box lol

[harsh dove]

Oh okay lol

If you ever take the PCB out, would be interesting to see the PCB model number

[devout torrent]

yeah I will prob take it apart at some point

most likely over weekend

I have a pc plate I got with it that I wanna swap over to

comes with a cf plate stock

[urban harbor]

the design of the feet on wooting's cases leaves a lot to be desired

not like i'm looking at the bottom of my keyboard, but im still not a fan

[harsh dove]

Sweet

[tawdry tree]

and this confirms it. Gateron’s KS-20 top housing fit Grain Gold’s closed bottom housings.

[harsh dove]

Ew

[polar girder]

🤢

[tawdry tree]

wtf

If it’s like the guy says, it’s pretty good.

[harsh dove]

When he says chimera, is he referring to hybrid raptors?

[tawdry tree]

stem swapped raptors

yes

[harsh dove]

Thought so

They are def too tight , for me anyway

[tawdry tree]

He used the bottom housing of the neo lavenders and the top housing of the KS-20.

[harsh dove]

Very nice

And what stem

[tawdry tree]

Lekker

[harsh dove]

Nice

[tawdry tree]

So KS-20 top housing and stem and neo lavender/rice bottom housing

I would kinda think that that doesn’t do much at all but he’s happy with it.

[harsh dove]

Yeah same

Mainly cause all the materials are still the same for the most part besides nylon or pc top

Stems and bottom housing are all the same

Only difference will be tolerances

[harsh dove]

[polar girder]

You had custom cables done by him?

I want a straight, no disconnect, 8 core IEM cable all black

not an option on the pre-made and can’t do custom IEM cables on his website, it looks like

Not serious enough to message him yet I guess lol

[uneven cradle]

Yeah if you want a lemo they ain't cheap

Guess I'm gonna have to get another cable 💸

[harsh dove]

Randall is funny

[harsh dove]

Quite several

He’s also getting a patina done on his own board and is gonna show me after it’s done and then he’s gonna do the same to mine

[harsh dove]

Yeah if you message him , more than likely he can do it

He’s a super chill guy

[devout torrent]

I love wooting

Idk how I never noticed xlat had a keyboard-support branch

[polar girder]

Rappy snappy when

[polar girder]

Sick

Thanks for heads up. Yeah sounds doable

[harsh dove]

Yeah I don’t see why not

[glossy pagoda]

We only merged it in a few weeks ago

Also fun fact, we're going to be sending these latency testing machines to any competitors who reach out as well

[harsh dove]

I like the competition

[marsh saffron]

^^^

[harsh dove]

Healthy Competition is always good

[lament grotto]

Would be interesting to see asus take wooting up on it. They were making some bold claims on their new Azoth Extreme

[glossy pagoda]

Firmware and software is done, just the final polish needed for ui/ux and it'll go live. You can expect it on all of our hall effect keyboards before the 80he delivers, and it will come to our old flaretech keyboards afterwards

[marsh saffron]

[glossy pagoda]

I got to play with this keyboard yesterday, really interesting construction. But it still just uses mechanical switches sooooo

[devout torrent]

It’s the keyboard-support branch right?

Or am I missing something in the commits

[glossy pagoda]

Yes

[devout torrent]

Ok sweet ty

ILY Mr wooting

[devout torrent]

You should send to @slender anchor! He has the biggest He collection in the west

[glossy pagoda]

Send me an email @slender anchor to [e-mail] and I'll hook you up
(Once we make it less finicky to use 😅)

[lament grotto]

It’s still just great to see… and then poop on with the 80HE

[thorn zealot]

If I’m doing o ring friction mount in a tray mount case

Do I need to cut off the stand offs

Or leave em there

[marsh saffron]

You can leave them

[uneven cradle]

@harsh dove GB for the keyboard is end of this month or start of July I believe

guess i better get my money ready

[harsh dove]

Appreciate it, thank you

https://tenor.com/view/card-flip-swipe-pay-wut-checkout-gif-11170560

[fluid ravine]

haha thats sick

[pure magnet]

Well a wooden case would be really nice

But like aluminum frame and wood accent

[fluid ravine]

memory in the back of my head is tingling

[fluid ravine]

Leave em, pcb will either sit on either the standoff or posts so there wont be any difference or need to do so.

[brazen sparrow]

Oh Cam did the WS stupid stabs arrive yet?

[harsh dove]

Nah

[cedar gate]

Why the hell did they name them stupid stabs lol

So confusing sm1 asked me about stupid stabs a few weeks ago I was like what?

[polar girder]

brass

brass and walnut case would go hard

[hollow hamlet]

Tnx for the help guys

[tawdry tree]

To me it seemed like the stem swapped raptor’s tightness was mostly because of the top housing. I’d think with a KS-20 top housing it’d be just like a regular KS-20 🤷‍♂️

[harsh dove]

Yeah it's def the top housing

[tawdry tree]

How do you set those up to get accurate results? The actuation point of both “competing” keyboards would have to be the exact same, if not, it’s just who has the highest actuation point rather than actual delay right?

[glossy pagoda]

We are referencing competitor keyboards that are hall effect with 0.1mm actuation

[tawdry tree]

The actual actuation point is what I mean, not what it’s marketed at or what its software says. It seems pretty difficult to get the most accurate numbers as the actuation point plays a big role.

[uneven cradle]

wym its set to 0.1mm on both boards so when they key is pressed 0.1mm it activates

[tawdry tree]

No, that’s not accurate most of the time.

[uneven cradle]

well if it's not accurate that's on the competitor

[tawdry tree]

That included Woot too, it deviates slightly and depends on firmware too.

[uneven cradle]

isn't that why they include a std.v to show variance

[tawdry tree]

Probably with a crazy slomo camera you could see how much it matters, i.e how a difference in actuation point affects measured delay.

[glossy pagoda]

We have a micrometer with us to validate the actuation point settings

But regardless of the accuracy of the actuation point, the validity of the end to end latency test is the point

[uneven cradle]

looking impressive even on the not finished firmware

[tawdry tree]

Deviates in actuation point, the actuation of the first press after calibration will be slightly earlier and fluctuates slightly because of the sensor or magnet.

End to end latency is influenced by the action point, that’s my point 😂

[maiden holly]

when does the 80he deliver ?

[uneven cradle]

depends when you buy it

[slender anchor]

Can't wait to add the 80HE to my collection.

[uneven cradle]

if you add it to the cart it will give you the most accurate estimate

[maiden holly]

I asked that according to his message because he said rappy snappy will be out before first 80he's deliver

[uneven cradle]

first batches will be early august

[maiden holly]

Thank you for the info

[carmine jungle]

So, I have a question. I’m thinking of buying a Wooting 60HE or a Wooting 60HE+. I’m not sure what’s the difference between the two. But one of the things I’m looking for when using the Wooting 60HE is having very bright rgb colors light up every time you type on the keys. I want to have one prebuilt but I don’t know where to look or how to start, can someone help guide me please?

[wind karma]

with the prebuilt 60HE+ you can replace the stock stabilizers with screw in, clip in or plate mount stabs (it comes with plate mount stabs). the prebuilt 60HE is only compatible with plate mount stabilizers

[carmine jungle]

I see. Which one would you prefer the most in terms of performance or quality?

And also, can the Wooting 60HE+ still have it’s rgb lighting?

[uneven cradle]

I don't think you can buy the standard 60he anymore unless you're buying second hand

[paper bloom]

@carmine jungle Theres no difference

For performance

Only modding

[carmine jungle]

I appreciate the help. For the Wooting 60HE+ I’m assuming there has been no changes then since there not different? Like, I’ll still be expecting the same things like lighting and rapid trigger, etc?

Other than the stabilizers and screws.

[glossy pagoda]

Correct

[carmine jungle]

Can someone help explain to me how the software works for the rgb lighting?

[glossy pagoda]

You can pick the color of your RGB, and the brightness. There are also a bunch of different effects, and you can now stack effects on top of each other

All of the settings save to the keyboard, so it's a set and forget type thing

[carmine jungle]

By stacking you’re talking about the layouts right?

[glossy pagoda]

No I mean you can have a wave effect and a touch effect and a rapid trigger display effect all running simultaneously

[carmine jungle]

I see.

[glossy pagoda]

Per key RGB, per function layer, customize to your heart's desire

[carmine jungle]

Where can I find the prebuilt one on there website?

[glossy pagoda]

Add the keyboard you want to your cart and it launches a configurator to work out the details

[carmine jungle]

I’ll try that out now

[paper bloom]

@carmine jungle Just slap the shop buy it

Install wootility on the wooting website

Thats it

U wanna get the wooting role

Go to wooting hub and do it

[carmine jungle]

Thank you

[paper bloom]

Id personally say

@carmine jungle Install wpotility get the board and find out

If not go see the wooting youtube

Channel and see their UI

Their how to section will say it

[carmine jungle]

Alright

[carmine jungle]

Does the Wooting 80HE have the similar form of customization as the Wooting 60HE+? Such as RGB lighting up as you type, or just choosing your own colors. And using the built in tactics?

[brazen sparrow]

I would believe so

I think they also plan on more functionality

[carmine jungle]

I got to hand it to them, hands down this is the best keyboard I’ve seen in a while.

[mossy thorn]

Been through 4 gaming brands with lighting effects on software and wootings is no question the most customizable. The racing mode where your f-keys act as a pressure display based on how much they light up is a wild one.

[pure magnet]

I hope it's not kdbfans

The legends looked the same on my kdbfans, 80 bucks, immediately sent it back, high quality

[paper bloom]

Yes but different case

One is gasket mount

One isnt

The difference between the two is the sound and feel

[carmine jungle]

I see.

I’ll probably go for the 80HE then.

Does the 80HE have rapid trigger as well?

[paper bloom]

ALL KEYBOARDS HAVE IT

Its wooting

[carmine jungle]

Ah

[paper bloom]

Dude u got the website for it u can see for urself

[carmine jungle]

I appreciate the help, I just wanted to make sure. 👍

[paper bloom]

U legit dont gotta worry

[paper bloom]

The only thing u shld be more worried about is modding

If u intend to mod it after recieving

[carmine jungle]

Yes.

[paper bloom]

Ive said the diffrrence is the case but i forgot to say the 80he

Has better switches

Less wobble than the v1s

[paper bloom]

So get the 80he

If u got enough space

If not the 60HE is good

But get the module and procure ur own

Same as the 80

Since the 80he module needs a case and switches and keycaps

Besides that ur good to go

Unless u wanna get the prebuild go ahead

[carmine jungle]

I want to adjust the RGB for it, so I just hope the 80HE has that option too.

[paper bloom]

It has

Wootility has everything

Rappy snappy is coming soon

As well

Which is a software thing

[carmine jungle]

I won’t really go crazy on the specs for it, just want plain or default

[paper bloom]

Then prebuild

E z

[lament grotto]

You can also always change out the switches later without opening up the board. You’d jus have to take the keycaps off

[cedar gate]

I kinda agree that pbtfans legends suck but tbh I'm not super concerned about the legends

The pbt quality and design matters more to me

[brazen sparrow]

Apparently wuque has better legends

[cedar gate]

They do but tbh it's not a lot better and the only set I actually like is in BRAILLE lol

[cyan summit]

what actually is going on with my stab wires, they are from the pcb mounted stabs and have different colours

[polar girder]

KBDFans update btw

Might be the new redux color

https://geon.works/products/groupbuy-gmk-creme

Slick

[fluid ravine]

berry berry cremey

[sweet oak]

oooh

[fluid ravine]

berry lickable

[sweet oak]

[honest sapphire]

is there a way better plate mounted stabilizer or are they all about the same

[harsh dove]

Wooting stock stabs are good tbh

[devout torrent]

where do they post updats?

really hype for 461e

sounds like it might be early

[median spade]

discord usually

[devout torrent]

ty was looking on the product page

[old swallow]

I saw this aswell yeah, made me think of the event horizon

And also, PBTfans X-Ray 🙂🙂

[polar girder]

Yes I saw on discord

[tropic bear]

ya'll think this will print

mainly it's the little tabs I'm concerned about. Does anyone know if they HAVE to be tabs like that? I just matched the design from the bottom case bc I wasnt sure if I can combine them into one continuous length

like this: