🔧│keyboard_modding

[wheat mantle]

[brazen sparrow]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zB9U0QQrNF0

[wheat mantle]

WHAT

[brazen sparrow]

Putting in chat for someone in VC

[polar girder]

Dang just says no RIP

Thanks

“See notes” but I think those just your notes

[tropic storm]

@grand hawk

[knotty iron]

does anyone have time to help @grand hawk with their 60HE+? Thanks :)

[wheat mantle]

DOES SOMEBODY KNOWS WHATG KEYCAPS ARE THIS???

[keen wigeon]

anyone heard anything about these? https://geon.works/products/geon-raw-he-switch

[glacial wind]

Yep, was announced abit ago. Basically a long pole switch with better stem wobble fixes vs raptor

[polar girder]

https://kbdfans.com/products/gmk-dandy-r2

Pretty clean

[fluid ravine]

Sure Wassup

[grand hawk]

I fixed it 😄 it soudns aweseom :3

[paper bloom]

Thanks

[knotty iron]

Thank you Thockson, but all good now!

[polar girder]

they're doing holy60 in PC that's neat

[cedar gate]

Idk I think I prefer it in metal

[heady terrace]

oh man

the qk65 HE does not compare

@harsh dove if i switched to jades from my frankens would i have to change the actuation point and sensitivity since the jades are 3.5 vs lekkers 4.0 travel distance?

[harsh dove]

No, your board will recalibrate on its own after you swap them

[heady terrace]

do you think putting the lavendars into the wooting would brick it?

[harsh dove]

Neo Lavender HE?

[heady terrace]

ea

yea

[harsh dove]

No

[heady terrace]

got any thoughts on them vs the jades?

[harsh dove]

Haven't received them yet

Thockfather will be testing them on Wednesday, if all goes to plan

[heady terrace]

i tried playing a match on the qk65

felt realllllly slow

[heady terrace]

does swapping lekker springs into jades work?

[austere creek]

mainly depends on the free length of jade springs and what you consider work if the free length of the springs isnt the same

[grave plaza]

My 22mm springs just showed up I'm so excited

[errant meadow]

Does durock foam switch film fit on the lekker?

[old swallow]

Ooh shit, the new coiled cables are out. I completly missed that

[paper bloom]

@harsh doveSorry 4 the ping but what would u recommend running for lube and greasing for stabilizers

Ive checked alex's vid but i am unsure because his running 2 different lube instead of 1 since wouldnt it be easier to run 1 instead of 2 diff lube? and uhh are u using swag keys v1 or v2 stabs if i can ask

[scarlet barn]

Hello team, id like to make a custom keyboard for my girlfriend who has minor health issues and cannot game for extended periods of time but REALLY wanted a wooting 80HE. I know about aftermarket springs that might help with that, and i still want to go for an aesthetic look, any help/suggestions/recommendations or video guides/pointers to get me started?

[paper bloom]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2GJEyTl2aNY&list=PLUwyc5IrGTnwMtcMtlpYcJCu_8V78p1fU

For the 80HE its running a gasket mount for a aftermarket springs you'll need to lube

Ive sent the link which has the included playlist the lubing and greasing of stabilizers

For a aesthetic look for the 80HE id recommend just running a module and run a diff case that she shld pick and then for the keycaps as well

For the Switches id say run L45's and then do a spring swap Since Lekkers are the newer edition for the 80HE as compared to the ones being sold on the store currently

For keycaps u can check here :https://www.alexotos.com/keyboard-vendor-list/

O and you gotta hand lube it which is what i recommend for the vid here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vxHb6CJc9V8\

@scarlet barn This is all i can give

[scarlet barn]

bless ur soul i appreciate it tremendously, I will take a look at all of these 🙂

[paper bloom]

Hope it helps hf with ur handi work you'll need it

Any questions u can ask here

ok not getting that then

[paper bloom]

u can see more modding stuff as well in the FAQ here: #🪛│modding_faq

[scarlet barn]

thank you!

[paper bloom]

Welp hf now ima go

[scarlet barn]

wait real quick dumb question then, im not seeing the keyboard base (module?) on this list, should i just be getting the default module from the website then?

[paper bloom]

For building ur own

Id recommend running a module

BUT u gotta buy ur own case which they shld show for the options

in the module section as well as the switches

[paper bloom]

The 80HE module is running a polycarbonate plate

While the prebuilt runs a steel plate IF i am not wrong

There will be a 3rd party sooner or later but it depends on when

[scarlet barn]

ok im sorry im not ENTIRELY understanding, does this mean you would suggest one of the 2 in the ss or try to find a nicer one through a different source?

[paper bloom]

you know your keyboard has those stiff plates behind switches and the keycaps?

[paper bloom]

Thats called a plate

Then behind the plate is ur keyboards motherboard called the PCB

[paper bloom]

The plate is swapable so long as clearence and compatibility allows, my recommendation is to run a poly carbonate which is the module

IT does not have a case nor keycaps or switches which u gotta pick urself

The keycap u can go thru a 3rd party switches as well as stabilizers

Idk about the CASE which is the outer one

[scarlet barn]

ok thank you for clarifying, does this mean that plate is the "module" advertised on wooting?

[paper bloom]

Module is a Diy while prebuilt its just prebuilt but u can modify

@scarlet barn no

Im just saying the differences thats all

[scarlet barn]

gotcha i appreciate it

what would you suggest out of curiosity?

[paper bloom]

Module and the case u wanna do

Lube for ur switches since ur getting a spring pack

And either l45 or l60

If not 3rd party switches in #🪛│modding_faq

I am running the wooting 60he insyead of the 80

So idk bout ur case

@scarlet barn so for keycaps id run like anime or somethin with jap hiragana since its a personal preference of mine

And theyre all in cherry profile

[frank bolt]

I just ordered the wooting I seen it’s pretty common to get aluminium cases for them?

[paper bloom]

Which did u order

If u buy the prebuild the plate is steel

[frank bolt]

60 he+

[paper bloom]

The modules polycarbonate

[scarlet barn]

damn do u think theres any prebuilts that exist for the 80? bc im worried abt getting diff parts and things but problem being like, im worried abt getting the wrong parts LMFAO

[paper bloom]

Dude the screenshot u provided has alrdy been prebuilt same with the module LMAO the module just dont have switches and a case

[frank bolt]

Nope I just got the standard keyboard 60he+ no modules or anything

[paper bloom]

Like go and explore

[paper bloom]

The plates steel

The case is plastic

[scarlet barn]

OH ok thats what i thoughjt sorry i thought u were referring to the parts that wasnt the keys LOL

[paper bloom]

The parts differ

It depends on what u want

[frank bolt]

So is it common to replace the case with aluminium cases?

[paper bloom]

Yes

Some do some dont

Its a personal preference

I am running the tofu 60 redux

[frank bolt]

I wanna mod the keyboard but I kinda feel like I’ll break it

[paper bloom]

Foe the 60he

For*

It aint hard to mod

[frank bolt]

And I don’t wanna re lube the switches and stuff

Takes to long and they don’t sell the stuff In my country

[paper bloom]

Then leave it as it is or hire some1

Or DIY

It depends

[frank bolt]

We will see how much the sound out of box annoys me before I make changes lol

Do keycaps really make much of a difference of the way a keyboard sounds?

[crimson sky]

yes

[weary tree]

arguably every part of the keyboard affects sound

some more than others

[crimson sky]

even just keycap materials make quite the noticeable difference

[dire thicket]

Hello there, pretty new in modding, i was wondering if i should put o'ring on stabs too, or only on switch?

[restive saddle]

I have 200€ what can I do to have the best keyboard in the world at this price

[dapper kernel]

the cheapest wooting kb

[median spade]

For gaming yeah

For typing and sound no

[polar girder]

lol that’s fax

[heady terrace]

whats the length of the lekkers?

[cedar gate]

Do you already have stock wooting

[harsh dove]

Loctite Dielectric Grease or 205g0 is fine

I use Swagkeys Knights Stabilizers

[heady terrace]

have you done a spring swap for your jades cam?

[harsh dove]

No

[heady terrace]

whats the hype around swagkeys knight stabs?

[harsh dove]

Idk about the hype, I’ve just been wanting to try them for a while and they were always sold out

Looks like I might get my lavenders sooner than later, they’re already in Denver and it said Jun 3rd-4th

[lament grotto]

nice!

[stray tiger]

Oh nice man. Mine are out for delivery today so will still plan to stream tomorrow.

[polar girder]

Yo I just realized this 461E isn’t quite what I had in mind

I thought gasket mount was 2-piece case that closed in the gasket/plate

But seems like a built in friction mount?

Or am I tripping

[paper bloom]

Ye but isnt there a v1 or v2 ?

I'll just assume is the v 1

[harsh dove]

You have a time frame for when you plan to start?

[stray tiger]

Honestly depends on how I'm feeling. This sinus/double ear infection still has me feeling like crap.

[harsh dove]

Aw damn, okay

Well hope you feel better soon

[harsh dove]

No

[tawdry tree]

It’s friction with slots for the “gasket”, it’s not really either.

[polar girder]

Yeah weird

Not in love with that once I realized

Leaning more towards frog mini now

[tawdry tree]

I don’t know of a case which implemented gasket like that so not really much to go off.

[lament grotto]

Anyone have any recommendations for places to get good keyboard cables?

[tawdry tree]

It does include hooks or something to take it out easily.

[harsh dove]

Wooting just released their new color cables

[lament grotto]

Dang it! i didn't see those in my rush to get my order placed yesterday T_T

i sent an email a bit ago

fingers crossed

[polar girder]

Which is cool but I was trying to maximize quiet and was hoping for a full enclosed gasket kind of mount

[paper bloom]

Wtf?

https://swagkeys.com/collections/stabilizers/products/swagkeys-v2-screw-in-stabilizers

I saw this

n this https://swagkeys.com/collections/stabilizers/products/sw-knight-stabilizer

[paper bloom]

They fixed an issue where the wire keeps popping out

[harsh dove]

Yeah they’re not the same lol, I have the Knights

[stray tiger]

Knights are the ones you want

[paper bloom]

Oh

Ok that solves it out

[harsh dove]

Correct , it’s not a two piece case

They fit into little cutouts/holes inside the case

[wintry rune]

hello, I'm looking to swap the case for my wooting 60HE+, I'm looking for something aesthetic and clean look. Any recommendation toward low end please. Thx ❤️

[lament grotto]

Tofu60 Redux is a great option.

Very Clean, Minimalist, and under $100 with the added weight.

[polar girder]

Seems not as quiet as a frog mini

Fk

[harsh dove]

Usually over $100 after shipping

[harsh dove]

Is there a typing test vid?

[polar girder]

Not on Ali express unless also buying brass then it’s close

[harsh dove]

Or just guessing?

[polar girder]

No that’s why I’m waiting for yours to arrive

[harsh dove]

Yeah with brass on Ali, I thought it’s close to alumaze price

After shipping

[harsh dove]

Based

[polar girder]

Yeah the dude that has the black frog mini has been trying to sell for a couple months so I’ll risk it for the biscuit

If it ends up being nice and quiet would be great to save $200

But ultimately am ok to go all in if frog mini is the answer

[devout torrent]

pretty much same mounting as 80HE

using silicone pad to gasket mount

[sand oasis]

has anyone used the iso pc plate with the original 60he and had any issues?

[harsh dove]

Well the 80HE is a two piece case, so not entirely the same

461E is just a one piece case

And you insert the gasket into slots inside the case

The 80HE is more like the Frog Mini where it clamps down onto the gasket, forming a sandwich

[devout torrent]

yeah good point

[fluid ravine]

@harsh dove Yo (ﾉ◕ヮ◕)ﾉ* Big bro!
Any updates on your lavenders?

[harsh dove]

Well they said they’d be here on June 3-4th but they’re already in the next town over from me so we might get them this week

Glory be to DHL Shipping

They’re always fast for me

Which I find somewhat funny cause they consider where I live a “remote area”

[polar girder]

Yeah that’s what I want

[tropic bear]

[harsh dove]

Nice PP

[stray tiger]

@harsh dove if I'm feeling well enough, I'll stream em tonight

[harsh dove]

Oooo

Don’t hurt yourself

Me likey

I also just like the color overall , not just cause it’s a new switch lol

[agile grove]

those switches look so good

[harsh dove]

And they don’t say Gateron on them

hehe

Call me crazy… but i swear the right rail is curved?

[agile grove]

its a bit hard to tell due to the picture quality and angle but yeah it does appear to be slightly curved

[median spade]

I can feel the jades getting surpassed

[median spade]

DHL go hard no matter where you live

you in the middle of kansas? don't matter they got you in two days

[harsh dove]

Fax no printer

[harsh dove]

I can feel it too

[knotty iron]

Hi guys, I have a question

are there any 6.25u stabilizer sets that have an internal housing of silicone?

[harsh dove]

Swagkeys Knight Stabs

Silicone injection treated housings and stems

[agile grove]

they're sold out everywhere rn

which is honestly pretty wild

[harsh dove]

Yeah they usually are

Which is why it took me like 2 months to get them lol

Or you pay crazy shipping

[polar girder]

I’ll buy a set on sight if thockfather says they’re lower/quieter than stem swapped raptors

[harsh dove]

https://www.soupkeys.com/products/knight-stabilisers

AUS has em

For any Aussies

[stray tiger]

It does have a slight curve on that side

[elfin garnet]

https://antipode.no/products/sw-knight-stabilisator?variant=47868878356791

Found a norwegian site for them. I'm amazed

[harsh dove]

Even in real life?

Tfff???

[stray tiger]

Yes

[harsh dove]

Wow

I thought it might’ve just been the photo

[harsh dove]

Huh very interesting

[stray tiger]

Its like a small rail inside of the rail

[harsh dove]

Also looks like two parallel rivets? Or guide lines so to speak

Yeah

Idk why my phone put perpendicular lmao

[polar girder]

The lekkers have a-symmetrical stems

Not that crazy

But is curious

[harsh dove]

Yeah just odd that it’s curved to me

[zinc scroll]

Does anyone know any keycap sets that are fully transparent? Similar to the "Lelelab crystal superx"?

[harsh dove]

Look up Polychroma keycaps

Might like those

[zinc scroll]

From Glorious?

[harsh dove]

https://drop.com/buy/drop-keysterine-keycap-set-r2?defaultSelectionIds=977161

[harsh dove]

Yes

Also check out those ^^

[zinc scroll]

There cool, not quiet what im tryna go for tho

[zinc scroll]

these are cool

[harsh dove]

Ah okay

Yeah thought you might like those

[restive saddle]

No i got nothing

[zinc scroll]

There clean, shame there are no real clear sets out there tho, at least in stock or that i know of lol

[tawdry tree]

I’d think it looks curved because of the lube.

Raptor have the same thing.

[harsh dove]

Tirade said it’s actually curved

[tawdry tree]

Wasn’t there talk about closed bottom raptors almost right after the jades released

I’d have expected them sooner tbh

[harsh dove]

Harder to tell because it’s black and the angle but it doesn’t seem to have the same curve

[tawdry tree]

Curve is odd but they do have the rail within the rail, just open one up.

[harsh dove]

Yeah I think I do recall them having the same rail within a rail

I feel like it’s been talked about before

[tawdry tree]

Yeah, they do. It’s for less friction maybe.

[agile grove]

these would look great with the frost and ghost 80he cases

[harsh dove]

I imagined it was for stability but that too possibly

[tawdry tree]

I think it’s to do with binding, going off of what norbauer wrote about stabilizers and their housings.

either way, pretty sure Cherry had it too and Gateron as well.

Gateron’s lawsuit doesn’t seem to be of importance yet. 😂

[sterile sand]

any1 got some reccomendations for screw in stabs for the 60he+

[stray tiger]

I don't think it was ever a lawsuit, just a patent warning and patent notification, which they now proudly display every chance they get. For example

[restive saddle]

Endgame Gear KB65HE Magnetic or wooting 60he+

[lament grotto]

[restive saddle]

Pls rep me

[median spade]

Cherry needs to make their own and reverse the cycle where Gateron was the copier for MX

[lament grotto]

60he+. better hardware and software.

[restive saddle]

But look the price

Be objective

[lament grotto]

yup. in consideration. if you want to be budget, theres other budget options.

[restive saddle]

Okok and to make a custom keyboard, how much budget do you need?

[lament grotto]

Depends on what you're going for really theres options around budget

and also consider, do you need to do everything all at once?

[restive saddle]

I'm looking for a high-performance magnetic keyboard

[restive saddle]

Yes

I don't think it's enough but I would have 200€ maximum

[lament grotto]

first of all, what size keyboard do you prefer using. thats a piece to it too. If the 60% keyboards aren't a good fit, you wont' be happy with the wooting, regardless of how good of a keyboard it is

[uneven cradle]

If you can wait the 80he will be the best performing HE keyboard with the best software/hardware and sounding pretty good stock

[restive saddle]

I've always been on 60% so it doesn't bother me at all

[restive saddle]

It will be more expensive too..

[uneven cradle]

Get what you pay for

[restive saddle]

Lol

[uneven cradle]

Still under 200€

[restive saddle]

Paying for disastrous manufacturing, the case is really not great apparently I hope that this will be corrected on the 80he

[agile grove]

what

[uneven cradle]

I mean the case has nothing to do with performance which is what you said you wanted 🤷‍♂️

[agile grove]

even then the 60he case is pretty high quality especially when compared to similarly priced gaming boards

[uneven cradle]

There are better cases for the same or less money but wooting has other advantages

[restive saddle]

People said that after I said “apparently” so I don’t really know.

Does anyone know a promo code because it costs me €215?

[lament grotto]

Nope~

[agile grove]

there are none

also i’m not so sure what you mean by “disastrous manufacturing”

[restive saddle]

Sorry I'm French and I don't speak English very well, I probably have trouble expressing myself

Does the quality of “ABS” and “pbt” keycaps have a huge difference? 10€ extra for the pbt is this correct?

On the 80he what is really the difference apart from the size?

[agile grove]

ah that’s fair i’m not entirely sure what options there are. from what I’ve heard from friends and people online the case is pretty good especially compared to bigger brands like razer and steel series however I don’t have experience with it myself nor do I have experience with many other options.

[agile grove]

ABS shines faster than PBT https://wooting.io/post/abs-vs-pbt-what-are-the-best-keycaps

[restive saddle]

Okok thx

[restive saddle]

Thx too

[lament grotto]

for those who case swapped to an Alumaze, did you change out the stock stabs for screw ins? Any recommendations for good stabs?

[polar girder]

Why change from stock stabs?

[lament grotto]

the prebuilt comes with Plate mount, the module comes with screw ins. wondering if its worth changing to pcb screw ins as i swap to gateron jades

[stray tiger]

Not worth unless your stabs suck and you cant get them tuned

[polar girder]

Depends if you want to experiment or make the most of what you have. And depends on plate and what you’re going for. The stock stabs with a hand lube job are pretty solid tho.

Yeah there’s a lot of needless stabilizer anxiety IMO

[lament grotto]

❤️

[cedar gate]

Get stock wooting and a bakeneko 60 o ring if you can afford it

That's about all you can afford

[keen wigeon]

https://geon.works/products/geon-raw-he-switch vs https://shop.wuquestudio.com/products/ws-dash-he-switch-70pcs which ones you think will be better lol

[tawdry tree]

Could be but I wouldn’t think they state a warning like that if their patent wasn’t actually infringed upon. We have closed bottom raptors now so that’s what I meant, their warning doesn’t seem to have helped them, yet.

[tawdry tree]

Two entirely different switches. One has an open bottom and the other a closed bottom. Dashes are recolored Jades so you can listen to a sound test and see if you like it.

[keen wigeon]

ty i ordered jades with my wooting 80 so i will probaly grab the Geons!

they seem nice have you ever used any switches from them?

[tawdry tree]

Raptors I did and still do. I don’t know if the clear version is from the same manufacturer though.

[keen wigeon]

again ty im new but loving this keyboard community

[keen wigeon]

do you hae a suggestion of where i should buy my lube station and maybe a better switch puller? and just lube in genral i did order woortings to try

[tawdry tree]

I’d recommend buying lube from AliExpress if you don’t mind the wait, it takes like 7-10 days to reach you I believe.

I’ve used many switch pullers and the TX one doesn’t really have any cons.

Mind sharing where you’re from?

[keen wigeon]

South west Mo

https://www.amazon.com/Gateron-Mechanical-Keyboard-Switches-Replacement/dp/B09PN4R7Z9/ref=asc_df_B09PN4R7Z9/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=693308325592&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=2223513169815481574&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9023455&hvtargid=pla-1952924618842&psc=1&mcid=7f00a38f79403880962eef80b0bbd331&gad_source=1

?

that one

[tawdry tree]

Nono, that one isn’t good at all.

Ugh

[keen wigeon]

https://geon.works/products/tx-alu-switch-puller

sense id be order switches ?

is that same one

[keen wigeon]

thats sad lol it looks good lol

[tawdry tree]

Yes that one is the more expensive one but is as good. Is is the cheaper one:

[keen wigeon]

bro thanks so much fr

[tawdry tree]

It really does and it’s quick too but it dents and scratches the switch plate every time you pull a switch sadly.

[keen wigeon]

im using gloruios keyboatd rn and really wanna star doing some custom leyboards

do thx any other HE switches coming youve been looking at?

im down to spend some money to find what i like

[hollow pendant]

dual rail magnetic jade e

raw he

[keen wigeon]

gettign those

[keen wigeon]

ill check on these

[hollow pendant]

magnetic jade e not confirmed to work "yet"

[tawdry tree]

Yeah but those aren’t perfect compatibility wise, a dual rail magnetic jade N version will come out soon that will be perfectly compatible.

[hollow pendant]

magnetic fox atm is just a better lekker switch

[keen wigeon]

bet ill wait on those

[tawdry tree]

Also a reversed polarity switch.

[hollow pendant]

it doesnt mention reversed polarity on the website

[tawdry tree]

This is the lube @keen wigeon https://a.aliexpress.com/_EyWDfVl

[tawdry tree]

It is.

[hollow pendant]

i will take your word as truth for now.

[tawdry tree]

I don’t think the polarity is mention but the compatible board are.

Which are only reversed polarity boards.

[restive saddle]

An opinion on the 60he+ does anyone have it here?

[keen wigeon]

lol how im gonna know what type of lube id prefer or even start

[restive saddle]

About the noise? Apparently he's not necessarily a very good listener. And have you taken AZERTY or QWERTY keycaps?

[stray tiger]

The Fox is indeed reverse polarity. Its just a Gateron OEM specific colorway of the switches sold with the Keychron HE board (officially/unofficially KS-37C's)

[tawdry tree]

“GPL205G0” is for lubing your switch and stabilizer stems and housings. “GPL105” is oil for your switches’ springs and “XHT-BDZ” is grease for your stabilizers but it depends what stabilizers you’re using.

[polar girder]

I have the one from the Wooting kit. It’s treated me well so far.

Makes sure I get that clip real good

https://wooting.io/product/wooting-switch-lubricant-lube-set?Option=Switch+tool+set

The switch tool set. The switch opener also didn’t provide me with any real trouble. Worked well.

As well as the brushes. Nothing special but perfectly functional.

I can’t speak as highly to the tweezers tho. Personally, wasn’t a fan and they didn’t work well for me. Good for their pointed nature but not good for actually holding on to anything.

Had to replace those. But otherwise it’s a pretty solid deal. Fair bit of tools for $15.99

Anyone tried the L35’s?

[stray tiger]

The Wooting lube kit is a great value for what you get and if you dont plan to lube more than a few batches of switches, you cant beat it

If youre going to be lubing thousands of switches, there are better options.

[tawdry tree]

I’m actually such a fan of the TX switch puller, the wide one. It put pressure on the switch housing itself instead of pinching the top housing (and damaging it in the process).

[harsh dove]

What’s going on here

[tawdry tree]

Also puts no force whatsoever on the switch plate. 💯💯💯💯

[harsh dove]

https://tenor.com/view/f-bi-raid-swat-gif-11500735

[pastel vigil]

Its my favorite one too, by far.

[harsh dove]

I just want my lavenders and raw he’s

Boutta fly to Korea

Grab my shit and come back

[tawdry tree]

You can do multiple switches back to back too and dropping all of em in a bucket lmao

[tawdry tree]

patience man 😭

[harsh dove]

I’m most patient

[pastel vigil]

Im not

Xray set is killing me

😭😭

[harsh dove]

Just buy stuff and forget about it

[tawdry tree]

I want to know if they made the lavender’s bottom housing tighter on the stem

Like Gateron did

if so stem swapping wouldn’t be good at all

but maybe they didn’t and we can have closed bottom frankensteins

[harsh dove]

Me and tirade will let everyone know

Tirade before me

Cause he’s cooler

[tawdry tree]

😂

early bird catches the worm

[pastel vigil]

Closed bottom frankenswitches would be huge 🙏🏻

[harsh dove]

My grandpa always said that

[tawdry tree]

you calling me old?

😂😂

it is a grandpa thing to say

[harsh dove]

Lmao

[tawdry tree]

Backspace on the right space bar is actually pretty decent. I’ve been trying to get used to it (space with left thumb and backspace with right thumb). It’s odd but it has potential.

[heady terrace]

how does wooting auto calibrate switches?

[tawdry tree]

Context:

[tawdry tree]

Once during start up then dynamically during use.

[heady terrace]

that’s sick

i saw ur comments abt tx switch puller

is it that good?

i have janky metal ones and they always damage the housing

[tawdry tree]

It is.

The CNC one is good too but I personally use the regular one more often.

It’s a bit quicker.

[harsh dove]

https://tenor.com/view/mind-blown-brain-explode-rocket-science-explosion-gif-17063233

[lament grotto]

I THOUGHT I WAS THE ONLY ONE

i WAS SPEECHLESS

[tawdry tree]

LOL

Wooting 64HE + optional triple split space. (real)

[heady terrace]

does anyone know the spring length of the lekkers

[harsh dove]

K im out

[harsh dove]

Roughly 16mm iirc

[brazen sparrow]

Oh so gateron made magnetic switches first? That’s actually really neat first time they did a first.

[harsh dove]

No

[brazen sparrow]

o h

[harsh dove]

Honeywell made the first Hall effect switches

Gateron just has a patent for closed bottom HE switches

[brazen sparrow]

Ah

So wooting had used honeywells open bottom design then?

[heady terrace]

ahh thanks

[harsh dove]

No, lekkers are made by Gateron and before that there were SteelSeries Omnipoint switches

[harsh dove]

Honeywell made the first ones in 1968

[brazen sparrow]

I have to ask do you think wooting might in the future make their own closed bottom switches w/ gateron?

Like is it a possibility.

I mean anything’s a possibility.

[harsh dove]

Could be possible and likely without Gateron

But who knows

[fluid ravine]

If you do can you send me some clips? I'm going out for a volleyball night, pretty sure i will be home right after you finish

[harsh dove]

I’m headed home now to hangout with my anime waifus

Impatiently waiting for lavenders stream from ThockyFather

[fluid ravine]

[polar girder]

https://geon.works/products/tx-alu-switch-puller

This one?

[polar girder]

Whoops

[polar girder]

Since you mentioned this; I actually did rip a couple of raptors and bent top housing so now I want to buy a new one

[tawdry tree]

I use this one more often as it’s a bit quicker and you can hold the switches you pull in the puller itself.

[restive saddle]

Can someone make a short video for me tapping on the keyboard to listen to the noise?

60he+

[tawdry tree]

Yeah, Raptors and Lekkers both. Their top housings aren’t strong compared to 20Us.

[harsh dove]

With just any configuration?

[polar girder]

What’s that one?

[harsh dove]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/984799440072220692/1214345421640695832/2024-03-04_13-25-48.mp4?ex=6657b24d&is=665660cd&hm=a630c189873f3e86824eff0a045e628a271d17356778f22aea9b0fcb59906ea3&

Here’s one from a few months ago

So loud lol

Bigslyy would love this

I’ve yet to do a proper frog mini sound test

🙊

[tawdry tree]

That’s why I use it more often that the CNC puller.

[polar girder]

Bro like link or something I mean lol

I see the thing but what is it/how do o buy one lol

I prefer the more minimal style

[tawdry tree]

Anywhere, maybe check if it’s sold locally, if not you can get it from AE too.

[harsh dove]

Nah bro you struggled at the end, terrible product

[tawdry tree]

😂😂

That’s not me btw

[harsh dove]

Oh okay

[tawdry tree]

random vid off of yt

[harsh dove]

Fair

Skill issue

[tawdry tree]

exactly

no tx switch puller veteran

[restive saddle]

So clean

[harsh dove]

What I have now is better

But thank you

[restive saddle]

Satisfying

[restive saddle]

What do you have right now?

[harsh dove]

Frog mini

Still jades tho

[restive saddle]

How much does it cost?

[thorn zealot]

are the new lavenders more thocky compared to other he switches like the jades?

[harsh dove]

Frog mini is around $315 iirc

Barebones kit is $250

[harsh dove]

Nah they’re clacky like jades tbh

https://youtu.be/glbUIxIfTK0?si=WWjprtFN9YcK164v

[polar girder]

Fk bro now I want it

[harsh dove]

Lmao

[thorn zealot]

oh

cuz on the website it said they are lower pitched than others

[harsh dove]

Blasphemy

Heresy I say

https://tenor.com/view/heresy-detected-gif-25567321

[harsh dove]

They could possibly be lower pitched than jades, sound test are hard to judge because there’s a plethora of variables, like type of keyboard configuration, case, keycaps, materials, etc.. The type of room they’re in, the type of desk they have, thickness, desk pad or no desk pad, is the room treated or untreated, type of microphone, any mic filters, the list goes on

In other words, it’s not gonna sound like that in your setup

[thorn zealot]

ong

[tawdry tree]

raptors are a bit lower pitched than 20s so could be

i cant type for shit

[thorn zealot]

il just get the cheaper one

unless the lavenders dont work

[rough fractal]

hey guys i got a question... whats topically sounds better the polycarbonate or aluminum plate?

cause i have the wooting 60he module and i have the pc plate but it seems like i might like the aluminum plate more from videos ive watched

[stray tiger]

https://tenor.com/view/preference-glarses-mx-brown-cherry-mx-brown-keyboard-gif-21044520

[rough fractal]

ok, i wish i could buy the aluminum plate :(

[harsh dove]

IMO, I haven’t been able to get aluminum to sound good with HE..yet but that’s just my ears, your ears might like it

I have faith that the lavenders might do it for me

Even tho they basically jade raptors lol

I’ll let the placebo takeover

[rough fractal]

i love my jades. i just need a aluminum plate to buy....

i wish i could just buy the wooting one

[stray tiger]

Stream starting in 5. https://www.twitch.tv/thethockfather

[harsh dove]

In the middle of taking of GPU apart, will watch on phone

[uncut musk]

seems like fun

[scarlet barn]

Can someone drop some recommendations for their favorite 80HE cases that are clean/aesthetic

[stray tiger]

There are no aftermarket 80HE cases at this time

[heady terrace]

@stray tiger i missed your stream, what did you think about the lavenders?

[rough fractal]

i was there for, he said they are like jades but sound "more poppy" @heady terrace

[stray tiger]

Oh you tagged the wrong person haha

Yes, similar to the jades but a bit poppier is how I felt.

[heady terrace]

oh shoot sorry

[rough fractal]

@stray tiger have you seen the jade minis ?

[stray tiger]

Not in person. Ive seen both on stream (the E and the N)

[rough fractal]

are they any different then the reg jades

?

[heady terrace]

do you have a sound test of your lavenders in the wooting?

and whats your fav config so far?

[stray tiger]

Just whatever was on the twitch stream, but I dont think it saves. @harsh dove will be doing a stream in the next day or 2. I'll also do another using the same board so that I can do some A/B testing

[glacial wind]

How was the stem wobble on the lavenders?

[brazen sparrow]

^^^ and is the lavenders similar travel distance to the jades or are they a longer pole switch.

[untold wigeon]

I ain't streamed nun bro

[scarlet barn]

Wait really? Nothing at all?

[cerulean tusk]

its an original layout and has a lightbar + its new. give it a few months and aftermarket cases will likely pop up

[stray tiger]

The board hasnt been released yet, why would you expect aftermarket cases already?

[stray tiger]

Improved from the raptors and you can still stem swap with the lekkers if you want zero wobble.

[glacial wind]

Interesting. Gives me one more option to consider for my final 80he switch I guess

Need to see what wooting is cooking for those lekker pros though

[heady terrace]

how do i take out a o ring mount?

[lament grotto]

meletrixx zoom65 launching soon! should be interesting to see it

[brazen sparrow]

Wondering if it will have a closed bottom housing 👀

[fluid ravine]

@stray tiger how was the stream, just got home haha

[knotty iron]

hey guys

i just found some stabs that sound and look great for a decent price

and i wanted to know if they would work with the wooting 60HE+ and 80HE!

They are screw-in stabilizers

[knotty iron]

does the wooting 60HE+ and 80HE take the same 1.6mm stabilizers or

[rain drift]

Hey, can someone recommend me keycaps that have a similar style to https://kbdfans.com/products/pbtfans-cookies-n-creme

but no abs?

[scarlet barn]

Mb. U think its a safe bet to preorder the 80 then and then there will be stuff out by august?

[uneven cradle]

I wouldn't say that's a safe bet at all

[rain drift]

https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/products/kbdfans-pbtfans-bow-base-icon-kit-keycap-set?_pos=14&_fid=31953287d&_ss=c

would this work for the wooting 60 he?

[uneven cradle]

Yes

[rain drift]

also, if you know, when buying a case, should i buy the tofu 60 kit, or just the tofu 60 case

im a little confused on that, if you've ever used their products

[uneven cradle]

You'd want the tofu60 redux, that's the one that's in stock and compatible with the 60he

[rain drift]

alright, thank you!

[rain drift]

should i add any of this stuff?

[uneven cradle]

Really depends on what you want, the brass weight is going to add to the weight of the case making it heavier. The jades are a different type of switch with more of a clacky sound (a lot of people like them) and the plates will make different sounds

There's the #🪛│modding_faq which goes over in more detail each thing

[lament grotto]

Step 1) ask yourself “why am I buying a case anyway?”

[rain drift]

The case looks really cool, and Ig it fits my needs of matching with my setup

i like the more premium feeling of it in a sense

[lament grotto]

Yup. Then a few things to consider, and definitely read up. You may also want to consider the polycarbonate plate from the wooting site.

[rain drift]

I have another question, since the keycaps im replying from are cherry profile

and the 60he is north facing

[knotty iron]

i got the WOB version!

[rain drift]

does that mean i will have to take the switches and flip them

[rain drift]

nice! how are they

[knotty iron]

very naz, which ones? simple base or base?

if you're picky about legends, simple base solves that (icons instead of text mods)

[rain drift]

simple base

[knotty iron]

at least for the next year or so

[harsh dove]

I would not buy the 80HE with high hopes of aftermarket cases coming out at the same time, if at all. Not saying it won’t happen, but if it does, they won’t be released when the 80HE is out

[harsh dove]

Yeah exactly

[knotty iron]

same, i got simple base WOB

[rain drift]

did you change ur switch direction?

[knotty iron]

either way, i love their black zinc alloy case

[harsh dove]

Yeah I think all of the options are great

If I could have them all I would

[knotty iron]

i was told it was unecessary for cherry profile, i have my cousin's 60HE+ that is gonna be sent pretty soon by my mom

would you like to see together in vc?

[rain drift]

sure

hey, i can't talk

sure

wow those look rlly nice

yep

the wooting 60he faq:

[scarlet barn]

Oki thank you

[rain drift]

it looks daunting ig, but should be fine

yeah

i don't think there is a visible difference

like

negligible

hmm

yeah, alright

I mean if it's not obstructing or feeling different, it should be fine

alright :)

tysm man

he sure will

alright, i have to go, have a good day or night!

[knotty iron]

night bro

what stabs does wooting support

60HE+ and 80HE (screw in) 1.2 or 1.6mm\

[harsh dove]

1.6mm

[knotty iron]

for both the 60HE+ and 80HE?

i wanted to buy in advance

[harsh dove]

Yes

[rain drift]

if anyone does have the tofu case, which color seems most similar to apples space gray?

is it their anodized gray, or anodized silver

[knotty iron]

awesome, I will get 3 sets, one for my Q1 HE (confirmed already with Keychron) that I am currently daily driving, 60HE+ when it comes in a few days, and 80HE in August.

https://shop.wuquestudio.com/products/in-stock-ws-stabs-v3-1?_pos=1&_psq=v3.1&_ss=e&_v=1.0&variant=45141473394858
Stabilizers in question

[marsh saffron]

Here's anodized gray

Anodized silver

[weak inlet]

just ordered my lubing kit and some new keycaps off aliexpress

https://a.aliexpress.com/_EHLQUyB

[frank bolt]

Would changing the key caps and the case of the wooting have much of a difference to how it sounds or is that all to do with lubing switches etc

[frank bolt]

What keycaps did ya get

[slim peak]

the link just below is the keycap set I guess

[frank bolt]

They nice

What keycaps are compatible or sound the best with the wooting?

[old swallow]

every component makes a difference in terms of sound. but case is a pretty big one

[frank bolt]

I’m from New Zealand and I am not sure if they sell keyboard cases in my country, however I heard it’s pretty common to get aluminium cases for this keyboard?

[old swallow]

the most common cases for the 60HE are the Alumaze and Tofu redux i believe, the alumaze might be expensive bc of shipping, but you could get the tofu redux from alixpress, so shipping might not be too bad to NZ

[frank bolt]

What type of tofu redux? Isn’t there like numbers after them or nah?

[old swallow]

well, its the tofu60, but the redux is a 60 only

https://nl.aliexpress.com/item/1005005913007417.html?

thats a bit of a big link, but thats the one

[frank bolt]

Danm yeah they look nice

[old swallow]

very clean and simple look

ive got 2

[frank bolt]

I don’t currently have the keyboard I’ve never really modded one before, waiting for it to arrive, I heard from somewhere it’s really loud or something outta the box

[old swallow]

its not too bad

[frank bolt]

What colours you got?

[old swallow]

theyre slightly different, but thats the most recent pics i got

[frank bolt]

Oh cool

I kinda want a white one but that means I’d have to get new keycaps

White keyboards get dirty faster lol

[split dagger]

That’s nice

[frank bolt]

Don’t think I could be bothered lubing every single switch lol would it make that much difference for sound?

[old swallow]

i got jades, but factory lubed is fine for me

[frank bolt]

I kinda wanna see if I can achieve like a Lego sound

Idk never modded keyboards really

It would be more hollow in a plastic case I assume?

Might not even have to mod it probably just wait and see

[weak inlet]

https://a.aliexpress.com/_EHLQUyB

these cause i am bored off my current ones

[frank bolt]

They are nice

[weak inlet]

i bought the lubing kit from wooting it is not that expensive and the sound difference is really noticeable

[scarlet barn]

hello i have spawned in to say some potentially stupid shit, how does the "wooting" aspect of the keyboard work if we are ordering our own personal switches/keycaps?

likke lets say we are purchasing the module and then the case and then order our own keycaps and switches, does the adaptive keystroke thing still work?

am i dumb?

[somber roost]

yeah you get the same features, module or prebuilt. module is more intended for guys who want to use a third party case for example with the 60he+ or use l45 switches and so on

most mx style keycaps should work so that means most keycaps out there, just make sure the language you want is the one you buy

[scarlet barn]

ok cus my plan is to get the module, then the white zinc alloy case, for the 80HE, then custom design keycaps and switches, so that shouldnt interfere w the adaptive keystroke for the wooting?

[somber roost]

only hall effect switches will work with wooting. see the latest picture in #🪛│modding_faq for some compatible and recommended switches. as for keycaps you can choose whatever and it shouldn’t matter (just make sure it’s the same layout & language as the board)

[scarlet barn]

https://tenor.com/view/bober-kurwa-wombat-not-a-beaver-beaver-gif-8961649020872801915

ty

[somber roost]

i also meant to say make sure it’s ansi / iso / jis whatever you decide, get the keycaps that are compatible

[polar girder]

Yes

[polar girder]

Damn wish I would’ve ordered that switch puller when I ordered tweezers and stabs ☠️

[lament grotto]

You should get a decent one from Wooting with your keyboard

[harsh dove]

https://nl.aliexpress.com/item/1005005913007417.html - just delete the “?” And everything after in your links next time

[polar girder]

But I didn’t.

[old swallow]

oh yh ty

[lament grotto]

Rip. To Amazon you go

[polar girder]

They don’t have it

[lament grotto]

I’m sure they have switch pullers available that’ll work.

[restive saddle]

Will you have keys like AZERTY in pbt double shot for not too expensive compatible with wooting and a qualitative case for this one not too expensive but on Amazon French

[harsh dove]

@stray tiger

Basically 4-5 days early

[thorn zealot]

Have the lavenders been confirmed to work with wooting

If so then I might cop those instead of jades

[heady terrace]

i have them in my wooting rn

they are in fact working

[stray tiger]

I'll verify they work correctly in the next few hours.

[heady terrace]

@harsh dove or @median spade howd you guys fit your gummy o ring in with the silicone foam? i have 50 hardness i think and i cannot get this pcb in

[marsh saffron]

you would need to cut it for the silicone

cut the silicone not the o ring***********

very important distinction there 🤣

[slim peak]

how many did you get for your wooting, and how much does it cost to have a 60he or 80he full with with lavender ?

[heady terrace]

i bought the qk65 HE

idk if lavenders are for sale by themselves yet

[slim peak]

oh ok

[thorn zealot]

Alr hope they work

[stray tiger]

They are available on swagkeys website. I'll be able to test them fully here in a bit.

[heady terrace]

thockfather have you used silicone foam with an o ring mount?

[stray tiger]

Negative, doesnt fit without destructive mods

[heady terrace]

ahhhh shit so no way around cutting it

[harsh dove]

Nope

Only foam insert works with gummy mount

Without cutting/destroying anything

[heady terrace]

😭 what a pain

[marsh saffron]

honestly

might cut mine up and try it

i loved how the silicone sounded

ive got scissors right here.........

[median spade]

I cut the edges of it

[slim peak]

you ordered on sk website ? how much did it cost you to get a full set of them ?

[stray tiger]

same as it would cost you if you live in the US

[slim peak]

I'm in eu

[marsh saffron]

its 4.50 usd per 10 i think

[paper bloom]

@stray tigerDo u happen to know the dimension for the O ring for the stabs?

Sorry 4 the ping

[harsh dove]

Was $40 for 90 for me

[slim peak]

ok cause i don't a qty next to the 4.50 $ 🙂

ok thanks

[harsh dove]

Lavenders are delivered

But I’m not home

[lament grotto]

https://tenor.com/view/pepe-why-pepe-the-frog-sad-crying-gif-16026853

[stray tiger]

Lavenders confirmed to work fine. Red lines are Lekker and Blue lines are Lavenders. Magnets are reporting perfectly so it's safe to say that the new Grain Gold made switches are a solid replacement alternative.

[median spade]

[median spade]

yeah this been known for a while tbh

it's why you don't see hall effect pcbs by designers really

[heady terrace]

idk why but i thought the qk65 he was gonna be almost as good

and it wasn’t even close 😭

[median spade]

because they don't care is all

wooting whole bread and butter is HE

other comapnies just doing it to capitalize on market

[obsidian dagger]

i was actually just seraching up the message for someone

but the fucking discord search ended me up here

:/

[stray tiger]

The QK65 is the same PCB/Tech as 30+ other Chinese boards made by g.tech. This was discussed at length in their discord.

[shadow juniper]

Hey I see this message and I wanted to know what magnet they uses or if I can uses any magnetic switch on ? If anybody can tell me

[heady terrace]

ahhh so its just a generic he pcb basically?

[lament grotto]

the zoom65 looks interesting, but not sure what switches they'll go with. They are advertising a 65HE PCB

[harsh dove]

Most of the HE boards are tbh

[polar girder]

Who cares

It’s not Wooting

[harsh dove]

There’s a video on it, showing how most of the bigger names are all using the same or very similar PCBs

[polar girder]

Kick rocks

[harsh dove]

I mean just look at all their software

Most of it looks the same too

[heady terrace]

true

i regret buying it lowkey

[harsh dove]

It’s like the same thing with gaming chairs, they’re all made in the same factory for every company, just different brand name slapped on them, it’s all the same chair

[lament grotto]

^ this man speaks fax

[restive saddle]

Will you have keys like AZERTY in pbt double shot for not too expensive compatible with wooting and a qualitative case for this one not too expensive but on Amazon French

[austere creek]

any magnetic sensor will work but depending on the magnet orientation and strength you get more or less usable switch range

[shadow juniper]

So depend of magnet in switch ?

[austere creek]

yes

the reason why is this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gauss_(unit)

[polar girder]

https://tenor.com/view/magic-how-do-they-work-magnets-ho-wtf-gif-15717467

[shadow juniper]

For exemple that can work with that magnet ?

[austere creek]

Force d'adhérence env. 160 g (env. 1,57 N)
Force de cisaillement env. 31 g (env. 0,308 N)

wait thats grams not gauss

[shadow juniper]

Tu es francais ?

[austere creek]

Rémanence Br 14200-14700 G, 1.42-1.47 T

this is the right one

im not french

[shadow juniper]

Sorry its pdf

[austere creek]

but that G range is what the sensor needs to be able to handle

[fluid ravine]

[austere creek]

sensors have a max and min G they can read

also important is that those G values become less and less the further a magnet is away

so ideally you just test what works

if the magnet is too strong you need to move it further away so the range of the sensor can be used

[shadow juniper]

So in my exemple the manget is good no ?

If i all understand

[median spade]

Gaming chairs a meme anyways

Team Herman Miller

[austere creek]

technically all magnets are... you just need to get magnets that work at the range you want and dont need to be too far away from the sensor

[austere creek]

any namebrand office chair really

[median spade]

True

Hawthorne, Steelcase, Herman Miller, etc

[austere creek]

i feel like gaming chairs are designed for the sometimes gamer but not "real gamers"

[fluid ravine]

Me with a aeromesh chair

[remote elk]

Hey any good compony to get wooting case as I didn't reilise by bot adding it I would ed get cheap plastic one and it 2weeks and another ten pound shipping so yeah

[fluid ravine]

School chairs>gaming chairs

[fluid ravine]

Which Wooting did you buy?

[remote elk]

60he +60%

[fluid ravine]

Module?

[remote elk]

45

[fluid ravine]

So you want to find a case for it?

[remote elk]

Ueah couse buying it by itself costs an extra 40 like bruh

[fluid ravine]

Wait I'm confused sorry (◞‸◟ㆀ)
So you're saying you bought a wooting 60he+ module but didn't want to buy the pre built version as it's 40 bucks extra with the plastic case and everything and now you want to find a case for the module?

[remote elk]

I couldnt get prebuilt as I got the 45 I didn't buy the aluminium case thinking it would come plastic case and if I want to go buy the aluminium case it costs 30 pound more then if I got it with the keyboard and another 10 on shipping

[fluid ravine]

And I'm also assuming that you bought the Lekker 45 to go with this.

[shadow juniper]

Yep but if I want to have it in like switch or keyboard x)So technically I can put any like with any sensor. But in the example I took with the sensor this one, would it be possible in a classic use?

[fluid ravine]

Wdym by 45?

[remote elk]

Lekker 45

Switches

[eternal girder]

One of the most popular budget aluminum cases that fit the 60he is the Tofu60 Redux from KBDFans, it is $60 without any addons though

[elfin garnet]

biggest waste of money in terms of desktop setups. A good office chair is it

[austere creek]

honestly no idea how strong the magnets in our switches our since the measured G is when bottoming out and the sensor is still a bit away. youll most likely have to order the weakest magnets you can get and then a few that are incrementally stronger. then check which one work for your purpose. after you know which strength works you order the amount you need

id recommend test magnets to be ordered in like 5-10 since magnets often vary in strength as magnetization doesnt occur in equal amounts

[eternal girder]

i got a "gaming" chair just because it was on a discounted price. I don't hate it, don't love it, but it was cheap enough to justify the price

[fluid ravine]

Ok so what's your main point/question I general?
Are you just looking for a case as of right now?

[remote elk]

Yeah

Tofu60 good?

[fluid ravine]

Yeah sure tofu 60 redux is good, but the shipping cost from KBD fans is kinda expensive
I recommend buying from aliexpress as their shipping costs is cheaper

If you're in the US I say
But idk about the other regions

[shadow juniper]

Thank u for ur tip ! :D

[remote elk]

Its 5

[fluid ravine]

Oh so ur pretty close to that region of where KBD fans are shipping I suppose

Well sure
You can buy it off from KBD fans if want to then

[eternal girder]

That's pretty good actually. I just checked for the US and it was $26

[remote elk]

Ohh aight I'll prob check shipping times and fo with quicker

[eternal girder]

For me, they shipped it out around 5 days after the order was placed

took about 6 days to arrive in the US

[shadow juniper]

I dont know that thx for tip ! :D
And sorry for my eng x)

[eternal girder]

That was also a year ago so I don't know if it changed

[remote elk]

Ahh assume gotta prob wait another two week yepee anyway thanks for the help

[fluid ravine]

Yup

[remote elk]

Btw I don't gotta lube or buy rubber discs do i

[eternal girder]

lube and o rings are not necessary for a keyboard

they're just there to improve sound quality and feel if you desire it

[stray tiger]

Its roughly 120±15Gs - 700±80Gs (or potentially 102 - 905 depending on which chart I use)

[harsh dove]

Yeah im anti gamer chair, so unhealthy

[knotty iron]

hey guys, does the 60HE+ or 80HE comply with switch film? I was worried it would affect the performance of the switch and PCB due to added thickness

[mossy thorn]

I found locally made ones are the way to go too if you have a shop like that. 900$ for an office chair with custom finish, make, and a 10 year warranty to replace literally anything.
Or like 200-300 for a gaming chair with a 2 year that always breaks right after the warranty ends.

I know which one I'm picking erry time

[harsh dove]

Yeah and especially if you’re someone who works from home or just in general is at their desk a lot, should invest in a quality chair just for long term health

[sweet oak]

Lavenders look so cute

[harsh dove]

Yeah, can’t wait to get home and try em out

Will do a quick stream (maybe) and toss em in the Frog Mini and see how they feel/sound , they basically just lower pitched Jades based on Tirades testing

[sweet oak]

[harsh dove]

Maybe, in terms of quickness lol

[agile grove]

in the case of lekker v1s I’ve heard switch films don’t do anything

[harsh dove]

Yeah I’d actually advise against switch films for HE switches, never really felt like they did anything , I know they can help with housing wobble

[knotty iron]

thanks

[pure magnet]

I've decided to go all black already in ISO-DE (which is the cheapest route vs buying a base set + int. kit) and then spruce it up with additional small mod sets ❤️

[knotty iron]

i love how simple it is

[pure magnet]

Yup just straight up WoB GMK, hopefully it'll arrive by Friday

[heady terrace]

what’s ur fav current setup rn?

[shadow juniper]

Sorry but I'm curious, U use DRV5053 in sensor CD74HC4067SM96 for have multiple HE key but u use CAN after to go in microship ? Like DRV5053 > CD74HC4067SM96 > Microship ? I dont know how u used it and how u make it in PCB ?

Im just lost in all data what I have

[harsh dove]

For the wooting, frog mini with jades or lavenders when I get them , 70A tadpoles, silicone insert, no case foam, no tape mod, knight stabilizers

[heady terrace]

if u don’t mind can u send a pic of ur silicone insert

idk how much i should trim off the edges

i’m thinking abt getting jades. the lavenders are only okay for me and the spring weight isn’t as light as the 40

idk what stabs i should get tho bc i have the normal pcb not +

[harsh dove]

Jades and lavenders are pretty similar

Lavenders being slightly lower pitched and poppier as tirade described it

[harsh dove]

I didn’t cut mine if that’s what you’re asking

[austere creek]

the mcu has analog pins and the multiplexer just gets told which of its inputs to route to its output which is connected to the analog pin. that pin just reads the analog value then

[heady terrace]

oh how’d you get it to fit with the o ring then?

[harsh dove]

You dont gummy mount in a frog mini

It’s a gasket mount case

[heady terrace]

ohhh

[heady terrace]

what’s the 70a tadpoles?

[shadow juniper]

Okay so u have simple circuit like HE sensor (Analogic OUT) > multiplexer > mcu ?

But I see he have HE sensor with numeric OUT, why u didnt take it in like 60HE ?

[austere creek]

drv5053 is analog

it outputs a voltage depending on the gaussian field acting upon it causing the hall effect to occur

[harsh dove]

It’s what the frog mini uses as its “gasket mount”

[heady terrace]

ahhhh i see

[austere creek]

if you mean the I2C mentioned in my original post thats there if someone doesnt wanna build a fully end 2 end analog circuit and use the simpler I2C protocol

[shadow juniper]

Yes I see that in datasheet but I see HE sensor like A1308/A1309 OUT numeric and u dont need CD74HC4067SM96, its pretty mutch expensive since combo CD74HC4067SM96 + DRV5053 btw

[shadow juniper]

I2C its only for I see like 8 max keys no ?

[austere creek]

A1308 is also voltage out

[shadow juniper]

So u need after CD74HC4067SM96 for it ? Or just MCU is ok ?

[austere creek]

depends on how many keys you want

the amount of keys is always the limit

[shadow juniper]

Like more of 20+

[austere creek]

you will 100% need a multiplexer

no matter what your sensor outputs

[tawdry tree]

Not gonna say I understand it but this is the ATK’s PCB.

[shadow juniper]

Ooooh okay, multiplexer is an obligation if u want more of 16 keys. Sensor get "inpute" by switch and he give it to the multiplexer and multiplexer give the signal at the MCU, right ? So after u just need to get right sensor for HE?

[heady terrace]

sucks they don’t sell a white frog mini

[austere creek]

it should also be noted they use completely different sensors

[shadow juniper]

That not the 60HE ?

[austere creek]

no its an ATK

also missing the other side of the pcb

[heady terrace]

@median spade do you think i could recreate the setup u have in ur vid using a klippe t?

[austere creek]

as far am im aware there is no MCU with more than maybe 8 analog input channels

so you can only connect 8 sensors without a multiplexer at best

[tawdry tree]

60HE+

[shadow juniper]

Oh okay thx, the back of PCE is really nice

[austere creek]

traditional keyboards with spring contacts dont need multiplexers cause they can do multiplexing themselves as they dont read data but just want to know if 2 of their input pins are connected (digital pins not analog)

[shadow juniper]

So if I all understand, I can have 8(8*16) key on my keyboard ?

[austere creek]

i guess you could trace and build your own multiplexer without an IC but thatll be even more expensive

[austere creek]

what

you can stack multiplexers if you really want

having 16x16

[shadow juniper]

Multiplexer max is 16 keys, and max of mcu is 8 multiplexer is right ?

[austere creek]

but that becomes tricky with talking to the multiplexers

[shadow juniper]

Okay

[austere creek]

also i said 8 is the max ive seen

most mcus that dont cost an arm and a leg have 2 maybe 4 if youre lucky

https://www.gd32mcu.com/data/documents/datasheet/GD32F303xx_Datasheet_Rev1.9.pdf

this is our arm mcu

[shadow juniper]

xD Okay but ur MCU I see is like for 7€ no ?

And ur MCU have so 4 or 8 ?

[austere creek]

i wouldnt necessarily call that cheap for an mcu

but yes

[shadow juniper]

Wey, what is for u cheap for mcu ?

[austere creek]

ours has i think up to 16 channels total idk how many pins on the package we currently use

[austere creek]

browse around

also dont forget youll have to program the mcu

it doesnt do anything out of the box

[shadow juniper]

For first utilisation yep I see and after u want program with like logicial like u have

For interface

Ur interface is really clean ! :D

[austere creek]

also if you want to know how to layout the pcb there is smth called the minipad which was opensource hardware i believe

it also has firmware with HE stuff

[shadow juniper]

Oh yes If u know where I get it ?

[slim peak]

minipadKB on github ?

[tawdry tree]

Now I’m kinda curious, is the ATK not really analog? It doesn’t seem to have multiplexers right?

[shadow juniper]

Is it ? https://github.com/minipadKB/minipad

[slim peak]

looks like it yeah

[tawdry tree]

The Hm Xu has 15 and the 60HE 5 I think

[shadow juniper]

Yes I guess too

[shadow juniper]

But its just for layout PCB right ?

[median spade]

Yeah would be similar

[slim peak]

firmware aussi apparemment

do you guys know of a video in which we could ear sound difference between lekker, jade and lavender ?

[harsh dove]

Same as Highground and Endgame

Just slightly different versions

[tawdry tree]

Same exact PCBs, just different versions

Yes

[harsh dove]

Shame

[tawdry tree]

That’s OEM for ya

[harsh dove]

Yep yep

[knotty iron]

pcb talk?

[pure magnet]

Probably same thing with the endgame KB65HE

Sent it immediately back when I read that I always have to press always further down than my last activation point

And that in order to have actually good latency

You need to install some beta firmware that has a low latency option

[agile grove]

honestly I wish that there were more HE boards that don’t have glaring issues or are at a price that justifies the performance

[pure magnet]

That KB65HE is like 160, almost offensive

[stray tiger]

Almost as offensive as the board itself

[heady terrace]

if you can, do you mind sending a pic of ur silicone insert? not sure how much to cut

[knotty iron]

I just ordered some Wuque Studio v3.1 Black glitter silicone stabilizers in 7+2 1.6mm kits which have the right measurements for wooting, hope everything goes well :)

[median spade]

I cut way more than u9sual, but I'm 1500 miles away from my 60he now. However @fluid ravine did and his is way better. Can searcdh for his pics for look in discord

[knotty iron]

3 for myself (60HE+, 80HE, Q1 HE) and 1 for my friend (Q1 HE)

[knotty iron]

my 60HE+ should be here in a few days

[fluid ravine]

I gotchu

[fluid ravine]

You would technically just cut around the border where the oring would wrap around

But just use my pic as a reference

[torpid crow]

are there any polycarbonate cases compatible with the wooting 60he? alternatively, is there a way to gummy oring mount the wooting pcb?

[harsh dove]

Yes and yes

[fluid ravine]

I use scissors btw

Snip snip

[pure magnet]

Gotta say, don't regret getting GMK now, even if it's just basic white on black, didn't think I would say that lol

Most average "good" OEM pbt sets start at like 70 to 80 made in China

I mean, I probably didn't pay attention to keycap prices but wasn't like a GMK set, basic one around 100 bucks before COVID?

And the inflation and whatever else happened

Or am I tripping?

[harsh dove]

There’s still sets around that price

Can find GMK base kits for $110

[pure magnet]

Gotcha I mean I guess, since I'm from Germany the sets that came with additional language support

[harsh dove]

Ah okay

[pure magnet]

I paid now 145 for WoB + NorDEUK which isn't bad

[harsh dove]

Yeah that’s good

[pure magnet]

And I thought you know what, nothing that's available really hits me

And what is hitting me is ridiculously expensive

And I thought nothing's good as a basic WoB that you can later if you want color up

But yeah, that set used to be 100 bucks as far as I remember

Lemme check, yup

Man, COVID and inflation really messed with all the prices

Or maybe it's a different set since mine has more keys

[heady terrace]

sick thank you guys

[pure magnet]

Do you know some nice accent sets from different ones?

That would spice up WoB

[harsh dove]

Yeah yours comes with a fuller base kit so

[harsh dove]

There’s honestly tons of accents you can choose from, anything goes with WoB really

[median spade]

WoB is best set

[knotty iron]

These should be good
https://shop.wuquestudio.com/products/in-stock-ws-stabs-v3-1

[knotty iron]

I have a PBTfans WoB Simple Base set, but I cant use them yet lol

just make sure you get tge 1.6mm set and pick 4+2 or 7+2 depending on what you need

[median spade]

Porque

Oh yet

Gotchu

[knotty iron]

it also has a 6.25u and 7u wire

[lament grotto]

OoOooO

[stray tiger]

You planning to gummy o-ring mount your 60HE?

[marsh saffron]

Are these the lavenders?

[tawdry tree]

Did GMK discontinue the 1.75U space bar in forties?

I know boneyard had it but newer sets don’t seem to include it.

[stray tiger]

Kitting is usually determined by the designer based on desired cost usually. I think only the older sets included everything by default. Now you gotta add everything piece meal.

[knotty iron]

Im getting an alumaze in black and then mounting it normally for my 60HE+

[marsh saffron]

Did you get to test out the lavenders yet?

[stray tiger]

Yes. Magnets are perfect. Work great

[marsh saffron]