🔧│keyboard_modding

[tawdry tree]

That’s an upgrade worth mentioning, sick!

[stray tiger]

Although all the current opposite polarity switches are either the same design or an inferior design so it doesn't really improve anything lol. Also, don't take that as meaning it will be guaranteed to work with every HE switch out there regardless of polarity, but it will provide a better chance to work.

[tawdry tree]

Future proofing is never a bad thing.

Do you know where I can read more about that specifically? Searching shows more of the same.

[bright sapphire]

can anyone tell me how to lube switches that’s been factory lube already? cos the switches i got are the ws dash he switches but they’re factory lubed already.

-can i just add krytox 205g0 ontop of the factory lubed?

[velvet egret]

Yes, You can just apply some 205g0 ontop of the factory lube.

[dull sequoia]

Yes, I recently lubed 171 Jade Switches. Works fine

[keen wigeon]

can anyone refernce me a good lube set like to put my swiches in while im lubing and i got the sey grom wooting is the lube good? and do i need any other things?? Thanks

[dull sequoia]

I have one key producing double presses (not every time) when rapid trigger is set to default (0.4). When I set rapid trigger to something higher (e.g. 0.7) it does not happen.
Does anyone know if that is related to Jades? I have only seen this for one key though.

[rain wadi]

煞笔

[restive bolt]

You guys might need to explain it to me like I'm a 5 year old but I kinda recently got interested in new switches and been looking at the new gateron ones, u think it's worth waiting for the new N versions over the normal jades, because I read above the E version wouldn't work with wooting?
I'm currently running the default lekker60 ones and starting my modding journey! ^^

Also what about the fox one? o.0

[glacial wind]

neither of them work with wooting. Wait for the wooting compatible version if you want to try the new jade v2

[restive bolt]

awesome thanks <3

[tawdry tree]

Both are revered polarity switches. The “fox” switch has been tested and didn’t work great. The KS-20Us work perfectly fine and are the supported version of the fox. If you want a closed bottom dual rail switch definitely wait for the N version as that’ll be made specifically for Woot’s boards.

[restive bolt]

I'm guessing the release of N versions is still unknown?

[tawdry tree]

I don’t think there’s an official release date yet but I wouldn’t expect a long wait.

[dull sequoia]

Do we expect the dual rail ones to be "better" then the current Jades?

[tawdry tree]

That’s the goal of dual rails, to reduce stem wobble even more. If this will be the case in practice, we’ll have to wait and see.

Just noticed.

It’s not the first time Gateron’s naming confuses Gateron themselves.

[weak inlet]

is there any quality dupe maybe on aliexpress of Glorious Black Ash keycaps cause i like those but don’t want to spend too much

[toxic knot]

And the key caps arrived, i love the look

[cedar gate]

Fax

[stray tiger]

Yeah they should have just said for North facing LED and not North Pole faces LED. Back to English translation errors or engrish

[tawdry tree]

https://tenor.com/view/presumptions-i-presume-presume-neil-degrasse-tyson-startalk-gif-13504167

[turbid verge]

guys , is there anyway to mod the 60he to support daughter board ?

[tawdry tree]

Easily? Nope.

Could desolder the USB-C and hand wire with tiny wires but that’s a pain and a half to do

[hard moon]

not only that. Sure, the 60HE uses only USB 2 at the end and a USB-C on the other side, but controlling the daughter board and the main PCB over 1 cable? Have fun with this shit

i'm not saying it's impossible, but definitely a pain in the ass

[hard moon]

actually interesting. There are 4 soldering points close to the Port labeled V, D+, D- and G

so in fact it is possible to solder a daughter board to it

kinda

it definitely requires a data relais tho

[old swallow]

so short answer, not worth the trouble?

[tawdry tree]

More so an extension, instead of a USB directly on the PCB, a cable with a female USBC on the end. Could work I think.

[hard moon]

definitely should

[tawdry tree]

Depends how much they want the USBC in a different position.

For most, definitely not worth the trouble

[hard moon]

another interesting thing i found are the CN2 soldering points which are also connected to the USB-C Port

[stray tiger]

You can 100% use those solder points.

[hard moon]

so soldering an UwU to it as a daughter board isn't off the table i guess

[tawdry tree]

I hope the guy tries it. Would be cool to see

[austere creek]

i dont think thatll work

youd mess up the usb data

you could only solder another usb port to it

[hard moon]

USB C has 20 freaking pins, as if it doesn't have enough V and data pins

[austere creek]

not how usb works

[stray tiger]

For the 60HE as @molten breach told me when I started a similar project a few weeks back (that's still a secret shh) "In that case only VCC, GND, D+ & D- should matter and would needed to be provided to a daughterboard. But on the daughterboard itself you need to take care of the CC-pins, otherwise a C to C cable would not work."

[austere creek]

thats prob in relation to soldering on a usb-c connector daughterboard

[stray tiger]

Which I am

[austere creek]

since the cc pins need a specific resistor to pull them down so the usb-c host knows to provide 5v 1a and basically fall into normal usb2 behaviour for the pins

[hard moon]

i might have something for that particular problem, gimme a minute

[austere creek]

ignore the right connector and pinout

[polar girder]

Noxary X60 R a nice case?

[hard moon]

nvm, that stupid C to C adapter is just a USB 2 extension

you can even track the traces and see it's just a USB 2 standard

[austere creek]

the only way to get an uwu daughterboard to the 60he would be desoldering the usb-c port, soldering onto vcc, d+, d-, gnd and attaching a usb hub first

[stray tiger]

Never had that one but do have a Noxary T60 that I love.

[hard moon]

well, VCC is the only issue then since D+, D- and G are easy to reach

[austere creek]

basically you end up running 2 wires to the 60he after the mod just to have a 60he, powered hub and uwu in some custom case

[polar girder]

Found a Black WKL for $400 but i think it’s just standard tray mount so might skip

[hard moon]

what if i mod 1 more port to the 60HE instead? That way i can use anything as a daughter board

[polar girder]

Really only interested in this tadpole or gasket mount I think

For ultimate quiet build

[austere creek]

im not sure what you mean... thats already possible without modding it

[hard moon]

a USB Pass-through

[stray tiger]

I think he is saying he doesn't want to desolder the USB-C, which is fine if the case will support a PCB that still has it

[austere creek]

so just c to c cable a custom daughterboard

0 soldering required

[stray tiger]

You would need a case with a big ass back bezel. Maybe like a piggy60

[austere creek]

in that case yes

[crimson sky]

uhhh big disclaimer

DO NOT BUY FROM MYKEYBOARD
they official filed bancrupcy 2 days ago

[tawdry tree]

rip

[hard moon]

[crimson sky]

would not have recommended you buy anything from them due to their obviously bad finances and inability to pay their bills but now they are officially dead dead

[hard moon]

she, if you're talking about me, Sir

[stray tiger]

My apologies!

[hard moon]

It's fine

[molten breach]

As already pointed out this is not how USB works. You can't just attach multiple devices to the same port without a hub in-between. While USB is a shared bus each device needs to get it's own connection for D+ & D-. Besides potential signaling issues it may works for the data transfer but there is also the detection of a USB device.

If a device is attached it either pulls up D+ (for Full-Speed) or D- (for Low-Speed). It's always either one of these two because Hi-Speed starts as Full-Speed. So if two devices would be connected you would get a collision because both would be initialized at the same time and so try to reply at the same time. The signaling would also likely messed up because two devices would pull-up different (then the host don't know what speed it should use) or the same signal line (likely disturbing the behavior of the signaling because it's harder to pull it down).

What work is if you add a switcher so only one device at the time is connected.

[harsh dove]

https://omnitype.com/products/gmk-botanical-2-keycap-set

$69.99

[devout torrent]

got 8008 from them recently

really tempted to get this too

[drowsy berry]

cf

[cedar gate]

Is gmk that cheap???

Pbt is way more expensive

[harsh dove]

No, it’s on sale

Normally $110-150 for Base GMK Sets

And $35-55 for extras usually

[cedar gate]

The hell that much for a spacebar lol

It isn't even pbt

[harsh dove]

lol yeah GMK is known for high quality ABS

They have a new PBT line

Called MTNU

And tbh GMK Spacebars sound better than everything else

😉

[robust basin]

anyone know a good spot to get a custom cable that im able to use for wooting60he

[cedar gate]

Off topic ik but this semester is officially over next year is last for my masters

[cedar gate]

Just use the wooting coiled cable

[robust basin]

i wanted it mainly for aesthetics, does it affect performance?

if i get a good quality one.

[harsh dove]

What’s the budget?

[median spade]

Whatever you say Mr. 15

[cedar gate]

Yeah I was lying I'm actually just a 15 y/o in Kentucky or smth

Does anyone actually live in Kentucky I'm convinced it isn't a real place

Colonel sanders where u at

[cedar gate]

If you get a bad one it will definitely affect performance which is why I wouldn't recommend anything other than the wooting cable

[robust basin]

70 usd

is that enough

[median spade]

Chubby rubber cable on Amazon

$30 ez

Rubber > other cable types

[polar girder]

Can’t wait for metal keyboards to sell alu keycaps again

Gonna have to jump on it ASAP

[cedar gate]

Is that even an upgrade tho

Wooting already comes with a cloth cable which imo is better

Why doesn't he just get a good coil and use his money instead of waste it

[brazen sparrow]

Oooo

Where can I take a lookie

[harsh dove]

8-Core IEM cables > everything else

[polar girder]

Yeah that’s my problem with cables

Anything other than stock Wooting cable is just aesthetic

Unless you want QD

but that’s pretty meh to me

[harsh dove]

These over anything else for me

[harsh dove]

A few websites have MTNU sets, just search em up

[old swallow]

nu uh

wooting cable

[median spade]

It doesn’t have ugly yellow on it so yes

[old swallow]

nah, wooting stealth cable

or white, when that ever releases lol

[median spade]

Wooting cables for the ugly like camo pattens too

Solid colors would be nice

[old swallow]

i got the stealth, since the patterns is pretty.. well... stealthy

and i will get the white when that comes

[harsh dove]

Only small issue is have with wooting cables is the paint coating, which I’ve already brought up

Comes off easily like CableMods cables

[old swallow]

wait whats the issue? does it chip or something?

[harsh dove]

Just scratches and chips off easily in my experience

[old swallow]

oh hmm,

i dont have any issue with mine, but i dont really touch it a lot

i kinda leave it where it is

[harsh dove]

Yeah I was using mine for work so it was getting used and move around a lot

[old swallow]

aah fair enough

[harsh dove]

Now I just bring one of my wiredin cables to work

[old swallow]

i assume you cant just leave it there?

[harsh dove]

I could but I don’t feel like leaving a $180 cable at work

[old swallow]

well, yeah. thats why

[harsh dove]

These mfs lose shit too frequently

[brazen sparrow]

Wiredin?

[harsh dove]

Yeah

[brazen sparrow]

Do they make pc power cables?

[old swallow]

its like linkedin, but for cables

wait....

[harsh dove]

Nah

[brazen sparrow]

Ah they sound familiar

[harsh dove]

And just to be fair I think the wooting cables are great otherwise especially for the price

And yes there are new colors releasing soon

[old swallow]

yeah, if you look at wiredin, even the pre designed cables are around €90

[harsh dove]

Yeah

[old swallow]

so wooting price doesnt seem too bad, but offcourse a lot less colours and stuff, but makes sense

[harsh dove]

Yeah , I think the wooting cable kit is great, nobody needs to buy a high end custom cable like that if they don’t want too

[polar girder]

Yeah like I said, purely aesthetic. Or cuz quick disconnects

[harsh dove]

Yep

[old swallow]

for wooting, i think their current collection makes sense

[harsh dove]

I also think it’s nice that the wooting cable kit comes with both options for coiled or straight

All in One

[old swallow]

yeah, that too

[polar girder]

Yo did anyone preorder the 461E that has a frog mini?

[harsh dove]

Yes

Pine Green

[old swallow]

i wouldve personally liked if they were slightly longer, but i think lenght is plenty enough for most. and i get it for tachyon mode

[cedar gate]

Lol the wooting stealth doesn't have yellow either but I feel that yellow is kinda bleh

[polar girder]

Ok sweet.

I’m gonna tell this frog mini guy I gotta wait until 461E drops to find out

[harsh dove]

I thought that too when I first hooked mine up but then yeah Tachy Mode

[polar girder]

Although if I go whole hog with aluminum keycaps frog mini kind of makes more sense

Go full premium

[old swallow]

it is kinda funny watching esports, seeing all those yellow cables, then you just know its a wooting

[polar girder]

But idk

[brazen sparrow]

Wow wired in stuff is really custom

[harsh dove]

Yeah it’s all handmade

[brazen sparrow]

Honestly not terrible pricing for hand made stuff

[harsh dove]

This is the first one I got from him, Custom Nightcrawler

[somber roost]

looks really nice

[polar girder]

Why

[brazen sparrow]

[polar girder]

https://wiredinstore.com/collections/premade-in-stock/products/night-owl-8-core-iem

https://wiredinstore.com/products/nightcrawler-v2-pre-order?variant=43942179111066#

[median spade]

Custom cables were the one thing so far in my 5 years I haven’t done really

Had my friends make me some but $80 for a cable too much for my blood

[harsh dove]

Just prefer the textured look compared to a smooth cable

[polar girder]

Fair

Thanks

[polar girder]

Yeah kinda wild lol

[cedar gate]

Yeah wooting should be a full on brand like razer or Logitech making mouses and pads and stuff

[harsh dove]

@polar girder

[cedar gate]

This Dutch engineering is too good

[harsh dove]

I do really like his ghost cables tho

In terms of “smooth” cables

[cedar gate]

That would be awesome for a white setup

Mine is black tho so I'll stick with the wooting stealth coil

[harsh dove]

Yeah

And I also wouldn’t mind seeing Wootings product line expand more one day

But I think things like that are pretty far down the road

[median spade]

Friends same cables for $25 or $80 hmmmm

[cedar gate]

The question is would it be better than meta

[cedar gate]

Rn ig the meta is super light and viper v3 pro would it be better

[untold wigeon]

I'm searching for Belgian azerty keycaps in good quality...

[velvet egret]

Ewww Azerty.. Im belgian and i dont even use that xD

[robust basin]

what can i get for <$70

[harsh dove]

Wooting cable kit

[cedar gate]

You can get one plated in gold for 70 man

Get the wooting coiled it's 40ish

[robust basin]

alright

i just don’t really like the colors that are out right now lol

like the pattern

[harsh dove]

[stray tiger]

Yeah I was in a meeting at the office but I did order the dessert base. The novelties werent on sale so I didnt grab those though.

Ill be able to compare botanical to olive soon now though

[muted mauve]

Is this aight to use to lube the stab wires?
'am gonna use 205g0 for the housing

[normal schooner]

lubing wires

wait a minut

[normal schooner]

how is it going santa?

[harsh dove]

Very nice! I didn’t end up grabbing it

[muted mauve]

did i say smth stupid?

[normal schooner]

no lubing stabs is good. brain did not work

[harsh dove]

Pretty good, looking forward to getting home and checking out that Cherry Copper

I already have a set of the knight stabs in standard pole, but wanted a set of long pole for fun too

[muted mauve]

So... is that aight to use?

[normal schooner]

oui

[muted mauve]

aight, 'got it ty

[untold wigeon]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[foggy wave]

I just ordered a 2 HE and had kind of a dumb question. If i for some reason decided to spend 200 more dollars in metal keycaps, would they mess with the magnets at all?

[stray tiger]

PC between those 2

[untold wigeon]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[stray tiger]

Are you talking aluminum? If so you're fine.

[stray tiger]

Thock and HE isn't really a thing, but PC or POM are the best options for reducing some frequency resonance you might get from a metal plate

[untold wigeon]

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[stray tiger]

Especially if you're using a different case

[untold wigeon]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[foggy wave]

Moreso thinking about copper or steel ones, though copper probably wouldnt be an issue

[stray tiger]

Also be aware of the weight if you aren't doing aluminum. Might need different springs if they are too heavy

[foggy wave]

yea

[polar girder]

Nylon plate seems fairly thocky/quiet also

You have any alu keycaps? @stray tiger

[stray tiger]

I do not

[harsh dove]

I wouldn’t mind some “space grade” titanium keycaps on an Event Horizon

[polar girder]

lol that would be so expensive

Aluminum is not cheap

But titanium even less

Would be sweet cuz you can make titanium so thin

No good for thock then tho I guess

[polar girder]

Alright fair enough. Thanks. Eyeing up those Metal Keyboards Alu set.

[harsh dove]

Yeah I think it’d be sweet

[trim portal]

anybody know a place to get solid keycaps ?

[polar girder]

Solid what?

Like no legends? Blanks?

[trim portal]

something like similar to these https://www.alpheriorkeys.com/products/dark-koi-keycap-set-alpherior-keys?variant=47141352046888

im just brand new to getting keycaps so have no idea if these are considered like good... or if theres other companies with better caps that are more suited for a wooting

[little glen]

As long as they fit your layout, any keycap should be fine

[tribal tundra]

Zinc or plastic

And why

[agile grove]

preference

[tribal tundra]

Which more thocky

What is the difference

[agile grove]

Zinc is made of a zinc alloy and is heavier and plastic is well plastic and lighter

as for which is thockier i’m personally not sure

can’t remember if a zinc alloy sound test has been released yet

[tawny carbon]

would yall say that the 60he comes good as it is or should i mod it alot?

[harsh dove]

Comes good as is

Modding is preference

90% of users probably don’t even mod their wooting

[harsh dove]

Plastic will always be thockier than metal cases , however , chasing thock for HE is kinda futile

There isn’t really thock for HE yet

[agile grove]

I figured just wasn’t 100% sure

[harsh dove]

Yeah fair enough

[tawny carbon]

yeah im still debating on waiting or to pull the trigger on the HE full or the 60 or to order the 80 since it comes with better clicks and all around the new 8000hz

[harsh dove]

If you don’t mind the layout , 80HE is solid , but if you want a board sooner , then the 60HE+ is great too

Can still be a god gamer with 1000hz 60HE

8000hz won’t make you better

[brazen sparrow]

I like the jades pop

ngl

[harsh dove]

Yeah jades are great

[tawny carbon]

ok just wondering how its going to be i like buying the newest of things that just came out so just curious if there is any difference

[thorn zealot]

how good is the abs on gmk caps

cuz ik that cheap abs like shines over time

does gmk have the same issue

[harsh dove]

https://youtu.be/GENQPeDLUeQ?si=hYSr6OXynbZfKW7i

[tawny carbon]

ty

[mint oracle]

Finished my Wooting Mods. Already modded franken switches, tofu redux with brass bar, pc plate with silicone wedge, and i liked these designed cherry keycaps

[thorn zealot]

??

[harsh dove]

GMK has some of the best if not, thee best ABS Keycaps
Yes they will still shine, that's just a part of ABS in general

[thorn zealot]

alr thanks, just curious

i got sweater weather pbt keycaps

love them

[harsh dove]

Sweater Weather is a good set

NK Cherry Copper PBT

[thorn zealot]

nice

[thorn zealot]

im gona match my keycaps with the gray alumaze

[harsh dove]

The concrete gray?

Should look nice

[thorn zealot]

yeah

[harsh dove]

So glad I grabbed em when I did lol

[stray tiger]

Such a good looking set, one of my favs!

[harsh dove]

Yeah they sold out kinda fast

[thorn zealot]

i heard that there are new jade dual rails coming out sometime soon

are they going to be compatible with the wooting

[brazen sparrow]

The one thats on pre order no

someone made a chart thingy

atleast I believe so

[thorn zealot]

damn

cuz if it was i was gonna get those instead of the dashes

[tribal tundra]

so in what scenario is zinc alloy better

also

how much heavier

im sorta stuckkk

[harsh dove]

So there's an E version and an N version of those new switches, the E version will release first and is a South Polarity Magnet, the N version will release shortly after and is a North Polarity magnet, which could potentially work with the Wooting but it is not guaranteed

[tribal tundra]

can u help me CAM plsss

[harsh dove]

Well there isn't really a "better" whether you go with Zinc or PCR Case, now if you're chasing a certain sound profile, then the case material matters

and it's about twice as heavy as a fully built Alumaze

[tribal tundra]

uhh

thocky

[harsh dove]

Then PCR Cases

You can get Zinc to "thock" if you stuff it with foam tho

[tribal tundra]

if i use foam and tape will it be as thock as PCR

and how much thock diff

[harsh dove]

Hahah that's too nitty gritty to determine tbh, but foam will help with thock

[tribal tundra]

im also thinking about this keyboard ro be longterm. so im keeping it for a long time

[tribal tundra]

ok

wait

[harsh dove]

Zinc will just feel more premium in a sense

[tribal tundra]

doesn't 80he come with foam and tape mod?

[harsh dove]

and have a more metallic sound profile

[tribal tundra]

huh

ok

[harsh dove]

Yes it does come with those things

[tribal tundra]

does it clack or cling or smth

[harsh dove]

Depends how you build it tbh

But by default, metal cases can be pingy

[tribal tundra]

oh noo

ok

yeah but

[harsh dove]

and/or sound hollow

[tribal tundra]

there is not 80he type of case

[harsh dove]

just depends

[tribal tundra]

for 60he

there is tofu

[harsh dove]

Yeah there's plenty of case options for 60HE, not so much for 80HE and there's no standard TKL layout

[tribal tundra]

ye

[harsh dove]

but we could potentially see a couple 3rd party cases

[tribal tundra]

and cuz i want it longterm

[harsh dove]

for the 80HE

[tribal tundra]

and plastic might break

[tribal tundra]

i guess

[harsh dove]

I doubt your PCR Case for the 80HE would break tbh

[tribal tundra]

but scratch?

zinc scratch too?

[harsh dove]

You can scratch metal or plastic

[tribal tundra]

ok

what do u reccomend

recommen*

recommend*

[harsh dove]

I prefer Zinc, but I got both

I ordered White Zinc and Ghost PCR

[tribal tundra]

ohh

ok

[tribal tundra]

why tho

[harsh dove]

Why Zinc or Why both?

[tribal tundra]

why u prefer zinc

[harsh dove]

Zinc cause heavier and more premium, both cause its nice to have options

[tribal tundra]

im too poor :C

[harsh dove]

Poor is a mindset my friend

[tribal tundra]

i guess

[stray tiger]

https://tenor.com/view/this-is-absolutely-false-jared-dines-thats-not-correct-thats-absolutely-wrong-thats-very-incorrect-gif-21100759

[tribal tundra]

uh

[tawdry ore]

US Amazon long pole stabilizers screw in for jades (please help, ordered regular 💀

[harsh dove]

Regular stabs will still work on Jades

[stray tiger]

Regulars work fine

[tribal tundra]

Whattaya guys think about these: https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B0CRHN8ZXK?ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details&th=1

[tawdry ore]

really? bet

[stray tiger]

fax but if you dont believe us and just want long pole stabs, here you go - https://www.amazon.com/GATERON-Stabilizer-Mechanical-Keyboard-Satellite/dp/B0C132YC6Q/ref=sr_1_1

make sure you get the black/silver ones

[tribal tundra]

are 80 he stabilizers hot swappable?

[tribal tundra]

opinion?

[stray tiger]

no

[tawdry ore]

I actually have these but would there be more rattle with the none screw mounted

[tribal tundra]

nooooo

[tribal tundra]

opinion?

[tribal tundra]

are they good though?

[stray tiger]

yes

[stray tiger]

not usually but they do make them in screw-in form too but not sure if they are in-stock on amazon

[tribal tundra]

k

[tribal tundra]

OPINION???

[harsh dove]

only your opinion matters

I think there's some nice sets you can get for around that same price tho or similar

Unless you specifically want topography side print

[tawdry ore]

if you know where they are for the US i’d love a link, just want to get it right 100% no chances

[tribal tundra]

ik but

i need urs too

[stray tiger]

https://www.gateron.com/products/gateron-screw-in-stabilizer?VariantsId=10175

[tribal tundra]

topography??

those or these: https://www.amazon.ca/Tsungup-PBT-Keycaps-Landscape-Mechanical/dp/B0CDCD98HM/ref=sr_1_4?

[stray tiger]

Edit your link to delete everything after the ?

[harsh dove]

https://drop.com/top-list/Keycaps/max-price--100

[tribal tundra]

ok

[harsh dove]

And topography is that wavy design

[tribal tundra]

ohhh

ok

i really feel like getting zinc alloy

[mossy thorn]

Hi there. I just placed my order for a full sized wooting HE (Cant wait) and am looking for a nice set of key caps. I just want to know if anyone can confirm that any mx compatible caps fit on the lekker switches. It seemed like they do but I figure safer to ask before i drop 100$.

[tribal tundra]

hopefully my parents agree

[harsh dove]

They won’t

They’ll ask why you need it

[tribal tundra]

they already agreed to the PCR case

ill chatgpt why i need it

[harsh dove]

Hahah sweet

[tribal tundra]

also comes with a travel case

2 in 1

so

yeah

[harsh dove]

Master at work here

[tribal tundra]

lol

[stray tiger]

yes

[tribal tundra]

cuz its hotswappable right?

[mossy thorn]

Bless and thanks friendo

[harsh dove]

What is?

[mossy thorn]

Also, tell me these aernt gorgeous https://spaceholdings.net/products/gmk-cyl-mv-t3rminal#accessory-items

[harsh dove]

Very nice set

[tribal tundra]

the wooting 2 he

also

im getting the wooting 80he for my bday

since alloy is like

100 more expensive

imma just use it as my christmas gift as well maybe

[harsh dove]

Wooting Two HE is not hotswappable in terms of cases

[tribal tundra]

he wasy asking keycaps

also is this a good script. its pretty long so ill delete after or make a thread

cant thread

actually wait

editing

good???

idk

imma just try i guess

[tawny carbon]

@harsh dove any difference between the 60he different HE full besides the size?

and also is Gateron Magnetic Jade Switches good or should i go with the l45

[harsh dove]

They’re about the same in terms of performance ( Two HE / 60He )

Jades and L45s are both good switches, just preference really

[tribal tundra]

cam

[cedar gate]

Isn't KS20U legit just a better L45

[tribal tundra]

my mom might agree to zinc alloy

les gooo

[cedar gate]

I would change that to jades or ks20u

[harsh dove]

I mean yeah some don’t like the stem wobble on Lekker v1s but for some it doesn’t bother them

[polar girder]

Ks20u wasn’t in the question tho

They just asked between jades and l45’s

I love the l45

Not for the sound but for the feel

🤌

[tepid marsh]

does anyone know what stabs are good for the he+? or do I just lube the ones that come with it and call it a day

[crimson sky]

ngl imo the stock ones are fine

[tepid marsh]

alright THAnks

[crimson sky]

I just added a tiny amount of lube to one of them

[dull sequoia]

Not sure if Lekker Edition and Two HE are the same in that regard, but if they are: Get Gateron Jades and heavily grease the Stabilizers. It makes such a difference.

[green shoal]

what tape is best for doing a tape mod?

[dapper kernel]

i use duct tape

[weak inlet]

i used basic painters tape

[green shoal]

thanks guys

[tawdry tree]

😳🫣

[marsh saffron]

Brother is using that tape mod for life

[tawdry tree]

https://tenor.com/view/脱毛-じゅんや-junya-junya1gou-すね毛-gif-21714784

^ his pcb if he ever does remove it

[marsh saffron]

Rip the LEDs

[dapper kernel]

oh i meant masking tape

[marsh saffron]

Gonna use hot glue for tape mod

[dapper kernel]

please dont use duct tape

[green shoal]

using masking tape dw

[thorn zealot]

If I do lube the jades/dashes and stabs

Should I remove the prelube

Or just lube on top

[wet depot]

do dat

[pallid spoke]

Do anyone have a case for my keyboard I can get in Amazon that not too expensive in black or sky blue

[cedar gate]

You shouldn't have to lube the jades tho imo its just a waste of time you can't hear the difference

[thorn zealot]

I’ll just lube a handful of switches and see if there is

[old swallow]

^^

[median spade]

You’re actually banned from this channel if you don’t hand lube

[old swallow]

i hand lube my sausage, not my board

[median spade]

Lifetime ban

[old swallow]

😦

[glossy pagoda]

I have lubed precisely one switch in my life. That was plenty to know that there's no way I'm spending my time lubing switches 😂

[normal schooner]

I lubed an entire 60he and after considering me and @languid kestrel their opinion I made the scientific decision to never do it again

[shut berry]

Omg these are beautiful

[cedar gate]

You bought all that equipment to lube one frikin switch wooting must be paying you good

[glossy pagoda]

I meaannn it's less than 40 euros for a lube set and tool kit including shipping lol

[cedar gate]

Is it actually worth it tho you should spend that time and energy to lube stabs

[cedar gate]

Yeah LESS THAN 40 EUROS

Bruh that's like 8 protein shakes

[glossy pagoda]

I measure in beers not protein shakes, and if it's less than my tab after one evening out then I think I'll be alright 😛

[cedar gate]

You sound like a lightweight then lol

[languid kestrel]

okay big man

[glossy pagoda]

Meh, lightweight sounds a thing people say when comparing each other to some imagined standard, I just do my thing 👌

[cedar gate]

But for real if you bought the lube and tools and just lube one switch

50$ in the trash

[glossy pagoda]

No, it's in a drawer

[cedar gate]

If I bought the lube and tools idc if it makes zero diff I would waste an afternoon just to make me feel like it was worth it

[cedar gate]

And it's probably gonna stay there

[glossy pagoda]

Fair chance, yea

[cedar gate]

Well did you make that one lubed switch your w key

[glossy pagoda]

No my escape key

First one I started with

Last one I ended with

[cedar gate]

Well alr ig let this be a lesson don't lube your keys guys

Waste of time, money and protein

[proper cave]

-_-

[dull sequoia]

I never considered customizing a keyboard and here I am lubing 171 switches (Lekker Edition and 60HE) on two evenings. Tbh it was repetitive but also relaxing and 2 evenings for the reward you get is great.

But as someone else said... Consider greasing the stabs, that changed a LOT on my Lekker

[glossy pagoda]

https://youtu.be/yA-ikgHcJQw?t=584

[cedar gate]

Am I a Canadidate

Damn auto correct

[little glen]

You call it being lightweight i call it being economical

Getting drunk is so much cheaper

[cedar gate]

Grease your stabs for sure but unless your kb is old no need to lubr

[dull sequoia]

If you get drunk from 40€ in 🍻... You might be a lightweight

[dull sequoia]

It was the Lekker Edition, so not necessary old. But there was not much grease on it. And I also very slightly lubed the housing. No more rattle. At all.

[little glen]

I mean depends what beer and how cheap it is

But also what i said still stands: economical

[dull sequoia]

Okay thats correct. If you drink Starkbier 🙂

Or live somewhere where beer is still cheap (and I don't mean beer from discouters, thats disgusting)

You could also say: If you spend two evenings at home, lubing. Then you have saved two evenings of whatever you spend going out. Which will easily surpass anything you spend on lube.
At least that is what I always told myself when gaming.

[little glen]

I enjoy lubing

[cedar gate]

Anything older than a few years doesn't have the new lube so yours was prolly worth it

[little glen]

Its a relaxing way to spend 4 hours on a weekend

I need to clean some of my flaretechs and then lube them

[dull sequoia]

It is. Even though, I would probably not do it for fun all the time. But I don't plan on changing my keyboard regularly

[cedar gate]

Wait I just realized your like a big deal with wooting so I wanted to ask smth

Why isn't L45 stock in the kb instead of L60

It would be so much better

[glossy pagoda]

Short answer because I'm running out the door:
L60s are closer to what the typical person prefers on a keyboard.
We validated this again ahead of deciding which switch to use for the 80HE as default, and it remained true

[harsh dove]

Yeah , average users use around 60g switches

Better is subjective

Most popular weight ranges are around 50-70g

[cedar gate]

Tbh in general my preference is the lighter the better (not under 45 tho)

So tbh 47-50 is peak

For me at least

[polar girder]

L45’s goated

The l45 spring

[cedar gate]

Yeah I would 100% do a spring swap if it wouldn't cost 50$

[tawdry tree]

Who’s gonna buy an L45 switch pack if they come in stock? 😉

[cedar gate]

🤚

[polar girder]

If I get new switches I might try the spring pack. But I’m big chilling for now.

[harsh dove]

Yeah thats fair to say for you, but I’m referring to the masses popular opinion

You’re one person

[tawdry tree]

What was the force required for Steelseries’ switches?

[cedar gate]

Yeah ik

[tawdry tree]

Same as L45 right?

[cedar gate]

BTW making my protein shake has never felt so strange like smth I can't put my finger on

THANKS MARK

[brazen sparrow]

So would jades be like the sweet spot since it’s in between the two switch forces?

[weak inlet]

are inside the 60he module package more screws for the pcb? or just those installed inside

[brazen sparrow]

Never mind it seems the jades are more similar to lekkar 45’s

Maybe the dual rail ones may be different

[elder hollow]

Got my jades from aliexpress and they sound and feel so good

[cedar gate]

That is 100% preference but yeah jades are easier to press than L60 but have a bit more weight than L45 for me it's great and the sound is top notch

[cedar gate]

I got mine from kdbfans for an 11$ discount and they really are great

[drowsy rivet]

Hey, can you just lubricate the switches on the 60He+ or do I have to pay attention to something? Until now I've only ever used normal mechanical switches

[brazen sparrow]

Hoping the dual rail is just as good!!

[polar girder]

Pretty much the same just don’t get lube on the magnet lol

[polar girder]

That’s exciting

[dull sequoia]

Why should lube on the magnet change anything

[cedar gate]

Jades don't actually have dual rail but tbh it really doesn't make that big a diff there is little to no wobble and it is just as stable as most dual rail switches (like ks20u)

If you want THOCK tho jades won't cut it they are clacky switches so for thock KS20U all the way

[royal abyss]

Hello everyone, I read that the 60He is supposed to be loud. I'm not very familiar with keyboards. What options are there to make the 60He quieter?

[harsh dove]

Fill it with foam

[royal abyss]

Clowns out today? I wasn't aware of it

[harsh dove]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-huh-cat-huh-etr-gif-15332443943609734737

It’s a legit answer

Idk what kind of answer you were looking for

[dull sequoia]

I put a foam sandwich in my Lekker Edition and it didnt change anything further though

[royal abyss]

Ok, I can see that beginners are reluctant to be helped here. A pity. No wooting for me then 😦

[harsh dove]

My friend… we help people every single day of the week

You asked how to reduce sound, I said add foam

And now you’re calling people names

[leaden pawn]

btw there is a thing called youtube

[harsh dove]

There is also Kilmat as an option instead of foam

[leaden pawn]

that guy seemed to be a troll

[polar girder]

Or polyfill

[harsh dove]

Yeah idk, I’m not tryna be a dick but there’s not some super magical way to reduce sound in a keyboard, there’s a few options

It’s basically , foam, silicone, polyfill, kilmat, and the poured silicone option

And whatever else you may experiment with

And since foam comes with the board, that’s the option I gave as it prevents you from having to spend more money on something else

[leaden pawn]

dude, there was 0 bad attitude in your answer, so nvm)

[polar girder]

I’m on a similar journey.

Oh they left server lol

Peace out lil bro

[harsh dove]

I’m kinda sad too

[leaden pawn]

just a troll

imo

[harsh dove]

I actually like helping people lol

[polar girder]

The best thing you can do to change the sound is change from tray mount IMO

[harsh dove]

True that too

But again I was just giving the first quickest option before spending more

Even tho burger mount and gummy mount are fairly cheap options

[pastel vigil]

Some people can’t be helped bro its not on you.

[elder hollow]

Mine were 50 eur vs wooting's 70 eur pack. Didn't even have to pay customs which was nice

Shout out to Fenix for providing the link

I really like the clack, just got to adjust to the springs since i used L45s earlier

[tawdry tree]

@harsh dove did you measure the width of swagking’s stabs by any chance?

[harsh dove]

I have not, but I can

[tawdry tree]

Only if it’s no hassle 🙂

[harsh dove]

You just want the width of the housing?

[tawdry tree]

Yeah

[leaden pawn]

pro tip:

if some of your keys behave strangely - check the switch if it has any hair inside

[vernal trench]

how does one get an ISO enter key to fit a 60HE? Sorry if this has been asking a million times, any advice is appreciated

[tawdry tree]

An ISO enter key fits only on an ISO board.

You can’t fit it on an ANSI board.

If that’s what you mean

[vernal trench]

Thank you!

That is exactly what I was asking :) I’m new to the hobby and wanted to customize the keeb

It’s a little bit confusing tbh

I’m a big fan of the fat enter key, how would one go about switching the layout of the 60HE, if possible

like is there an ANSI big enter key again I’m completely clueless to all of this

[elfin garnet]

oof ISO enter + long ansi left shift

would love that

[tawdry tree]

Hate to disappoint but there isn’t. The ISO enter requires a different PCB and switch plate layout.

You could buy an ISO 60HE if you really want.

I don’t think that’s sold in NA though, if you’re from there.

[vernal trench]

I see I see learning is occurring, and yes I’m in NA

[elfin garnet]

He can just order it from wootings site, no?

Or did you mean resell

[tawdry tree]

I don’t think Wooting stocks ISO in NA

I think Mans mentioned that before but not 100% sure

[elfin garnet]

try wootings site. Add an iso version and ansi after and see if its the same price

[vernal trench]

I had a ducky for a while with some super cheap keycaps. Fell in love with the 60HE and refuse to look back. But now I want to customize it more

[vernal trench]

love the ISO layout

[tawdry tree]

This one is more accurate. If ISO is available in NA, only order it if you really would prefer ISO.

Keycaps are also different

So would probably need to order a keycap set with that 🙂

[vernal trench]

I found this keycap but have no way to utilize it

[vernal trench]

Yeah I see that they offer the keys on their website as well

It’s just the whole layout/board that I was curious about

But now I know I think

[edgy thunder]

Do you have a sound test example for this?

[harsh dove]

@tawdry tree

Make that about 6.25

[tawdry tree]

Thank you, they’re slim af

[harsh dove]

Yeah they fit great tbh

Were super easy to lube and tune as well

[tawdry tree]

Do you like them overall?

[harsh dove]

Yeah forsure

No issues so far

[tawdry tree]

Good to know

[harsh dove]

Using standard pole on Jades rn but I also just got a Long Pole set last night

[wispy wolf]

Pretty new too all of this but are the orings included with the module similar to burger mounting? If not is there a rec on which one is better?

[harsh dove]

The module does come with standoff rings, but it's not exactly the same as burger mount

[tawdry tree]

Not loose?

[harsh dove]

Not at all @tawdry tree

Using GMK caps ofc

[wispy wolf]

Thanks! Would you say one or the other is better or just preference?

[tawdry tree]

Stabs should really list their width

[harsh dove]

Just prefence really, I think the ones that come with do a decent job of removing any potential ping

I would say gummy/friction mount is better but that's also preference

[tawdry tree]

Guy from AEBoards’ Disc said that Durocks are almost 7mm so those wouldn’t fit through standard Cherry holes either.

Didn’t know that

[harsh dove]

but a lot of users do seem to enjoy the friction mount method

[wispy wolf]

Tyty will have to look into that

[harsh dove]

I’d call it 6.75

[harsh dove]

Check out our #🪛│modding_faq for answers to a lot of potential questions

[normal schooner]

ewww

[harsh dove]

Few places you can get cheap o rings from

[normal schooner]

electric calipers

[marsh saffron]

Can attest to this

[polar girder]

Same

[harsh dove]

https://tenor.com/view/jim-carrey-dumb-and-dumber-whatever-fine-whatever-gif-gif-26372352

[tawdry tree]

Yeah, so Durocks technically don’t fit through Cherry’s (6.65) either.

[thorn zealot]

What type of mounts can u do on the wooting 60

And what are the benefits for them

[pure wraith]

My sort of endgame setup

still looking for some better keycaps in ether black or white, so let me know if anyone on here as some good recommendations for what i should get in the future

[brazen sparrow]

Okay that’s some really great macro photos

Those look so 🔥

[pure wraith]

discord fucked up the quality so here the twitter link for the 4k images https://x.com/JudeCS2/status/1790793779865125152

JudeCS2 (@JudeCS2) on X

So i did a thing.

And i bought a thing.

Let me know if you like it ??

Twitter · May 15, 2024, 5:18 PM

[brazen sparrow]

Looks amazing!! I didn’t know wallhack made cloth pads. Is it similar to artisans pads?

[pure wraith]

yes

matches it pretty well and imo i kinda like it more, cheaper and more avaible to everyone

they ship amazon and on there website for around 40-50 gbp

[brazen sparrow]

Damn basically a cheaper artisan zero? I definitely gotta check it out.

[pure wraith]

yes

[pastel vigil]

Got around to putting my jades back on. God I've missed them.

I've given ks20us lekkers and raptors a fair shake but jades are just way too good.

[thorn zealot]

how do the jades compare to the ks20us?

[brazen sparrow]

^ I’d also like to know what you think about gateron combining the jades with the dual rail design

[cedar gate]

54 usd but I paid tax and stuff still a good deal

[cedar gate]

Unfortunately no but I'm sure you can find some online or ask someone else, sry lol

[weak inlet]

are hand lubed lekker 45 comparable to the jade switches

[dapper kernel]

Not even close

[molten grail]

i was thinkning of this when i noticed the dr orange are open bottomed

[dapper kernel]

V1 lekker has a wobble issue which jade fixed

[cedar gate]

Yeah any lekker has a weird magnet sound while jades sound more like a normal switch

TL:DR Jade is better lekker

[molten grail]

ive currently got the jades in my wasd/spacebar while i wait on my pc plate to deliver if you want a side by side for sound and wobble

actually my board has the lekker60

[weak inlet]

if you could send me ill be more than happy

[molten grail]

As you can see in the end of the video the tighter tolerances actually have the jades being actuated instead of wobbling around first

[surreal stirrup]

I dig the black accent piece for the alumaze. Did you make this yourself or order it from somewhere?

[mossy thorn]

dang, those jades really do have such a nice sound.

[pure wraith]

wrapped it myself in satin black

really happy with it

anyone here ordered from Goblin techkeys before?

i sent them an email about something i havent got anything back for a little bit, just wondering if anyone has sent them an email before so i know how long it usually takes to get one back

[heavy topaz]

Help! I can't separate the PCB from the plate; it seems like it's stuck. I'm using Gateron Jade switches and I want to re-lube them. I already unscrewed the 8 screws, not including the stabilizer.

Do I need to remove the switches before changing the plate?

I saw the Wooting video on how to change the plate, and they removed it easily. Mine is stuck.

[dapper kernel]

of course u have to remove ur switches first

[heavy topaz]

Oh i mean is it safe to do?

The pcb still stuck with playe

[dapper kernel]

remove switches> remove stabs > remove pcb screws > everything comes apart nicely

asumming ure using screw in stab since u said stab's screw

[heavy topaz]

I watched the video, and it seemed very easy to separate the PCB from the plate with the switches still in. I think I might have missed something.

https://youtu.be/XkosHUBUrdI?si=6ZWoSe-QjRqhxFSi

[dapper kernel]

the switches have two plastic poles that goes into the pcb to hold it in, u can pull it apart but requires a little force but dont use too much force

[dapper kernel]

u need to remove ur stab first if it's screw into pcb

[heavy topaz]

Ok i will try again

Is it related? The stabilizer screw seems like it's not connected to the plate.

[dapper kernel]

this screw connects the pcb and stab

there should be 10 screws

[heavy topaz]

Oh, sorry, I sent the wrong video. From what I saw in the video at minute 1:26, it seems only need to unscrew the 8 screws, not including the stabilizer screw. But I already removed them, and it's still stuck.

https://youtu.be/-0i0XVWM0ig?si=RhlgCQOb0Fn6Vgfd

[dapper kernel]

oh right the stab doesnt touch the plate, just use some force might be because of the switches holding it in

thats why i like to remove the switches first

[marsh saffron]

Yeah the switches are making it hard

Not an issue with my board but I also have lekkers

Jades might have a slightly tighter tolerance with the pcb stem thingy

[marsh saffron]

And non + version

[dapper kernel]

yeah i always forget that screw in stab doesnt touch plate because of the trauma i had with plate mount stabs 💀

[heavy topaz]

Do I need to remove the switches even if the PCB is stuck? I'm worried I might break the PCB. Do you have any suggestions?

[marsh saffron]

60he non + stabs are plate mount or clip in?

[marsh saffron]

Idk mine just pops off like nothing

Never dealt with that issue before

[dapper kernel]

plate mount

[dapper kernel]

i always removes switches first before i unscrew

[heavy topaz]

Even with a little extra force, it's still stuck, like it's got an invisible screw or something.

[dapper kernel]

if ure just relubing switches why even take apart the pcb

[heavy topaz]

Oh, you removed the switches even though the PCB is still on? Will it affect anything? Should I do it slowly?

[dapper kernel]

wooting is hotswap so u basically just remove it like how u remove keycaps

u dont even need to unscrew anything to take the switches out

[hearty sierra]

what is a good keycap/switch remover to get?

[dapper kernel]

Wuque or gateron

but even the cheapest one u can find will work fine

@heavy topaz this is the video that u should have watched
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-KtpE1mv23s

i prefer quick swapping because its way easier

[heavy topaz]

lol, the problem is I don't have the case until next month. I'm using the foam case that came with the module. Maybe I need to wait for the case to safely pull the switch out.

[dapper kernel]

this is the thing holding it together

making it hard to pull apart

but u should be able to just pull it apart

[heavy topaz]

Maybe the jade switch pin is too tight. I think if it's a lekker switch, it'll pull out more easily.

[dapper kernel]

trying pushing it in

thats the only thing stopping u

[heavy topaz]

I'm too scared to use more force; it's stuck like hell.

[dapper kernel]

then the quick swap method might be for u

u can just try pulling the switch out individually

with the switch puller

[heavy topaz]

Yeah, anyway, thank you very much for the help. Maybe I need to wait for the case for safety pull.

[dapper kernel]

u can just pull it out right now the case dont really matter

[heavy topaz]

I don't have a case and need to use force to push the PCB to pull the switch. I think it's not good. 🥲

[dapper kernel]

i do that because i use gummy mount so i dont have my pcb screwed into my case

[heavy topaz]

Uh what is the gummy mount? I'm new to custom keyboards and don't know about that.

[dapper kernel]

its like a rubber band inbetween the pcb and plate that holds the module in the case with friction

[leaden pawn]

guys, what are the best quality keycaps (company name) for around 50-60 bucks?

[heavy topaz]

Try tutkeys!!

[leaden pawn]

checking ty

seems like those are pretty hard to get

and they are around 80-100 usd

[heavy topaz]

I got this set for 40 bucks from shopee

Maybe you need to try clone GMK

[pure wraith]

anyone here ordered from Goblin techkeys before?
i sent them an email about something i havent got anything back for a little bit, just wondering if anyone has sent them an email before so i know how long it usually takes to get one back

[restive bolt]

I feel like searching for decent XDA keycaps with any ISO layouts is playing this game on legendary difficulty ;_;

[weak inlet]

thx a lot mate i think more people than i will appreciate this vid you did maybe ill wait for the dual rail jade switches that are compatible with wooting but how which parts of the switch should i lube or should i lube every part (ive already watched the wooting tutorial but i would like a second opinion)

[balmy geyser]

i just bought pc plate and want to use screw-in stab. what stab will for sure fit?

[tawdry tree]

Gateron’s, Cherry’s and SW Knights too

[cedar gate]

Try pbtfans it will push your budget a bit tho it's like 60-80

[harsh dove]

Just unscrew the 8 screws holding the PCB to the plate and remove the keycaps that are on the stabilizers specifically. Then pull apart the plate and the PCB from eachother

You do not need a case to “safely” pull switches out, most people remove the PCB from the case when changing switches

[thorn zealot]

What mounts can u do with the 60he+

What are the benefits

And are they even worth doing?

[harsh dove]

Depends on which case you’re using, but there standard tray mount, burger mount, friction mount, gasket mount w/ custom plate, and leaf spring mount w/ Salvation case

[thorn zealot]

I’m gonna use the alumaze60

[harsh dove]

Then you’ll have the option for standard tray mount, burger mount, or friction mount

Out of those 3, I’d say the friction mount is my favorite

[thorn zealot]

I saw that the case comes with stickers to put on the standoffs and screws

[harsh dove]

Helps with sound consistency and changes the sound of the board overall a bit

[thorn zealot]

Do they have the same effect or no

[harsh dove]

Yeah they’re little foam/silicone adhesives for the standoffs

Almost similar to burger mount

Burger mount helps remove the dead sound spots where the PCB is screwed in

Helps with sound consistency

[thorn zealot]

Alr, so should I just use the stickers

[harsh dove]

Yeah

[thorn zealot]

Alr thanks

[sweet oak]

Speaking of mounts, which ones are possible with redux?

[harsh dove]

Yeah you can also check out our #🪛│modding_faq for more info

[harsh dove]

Same as alumaze

Standard tray, burger, or friction

[sweet oak]

Neat

[pastel fulcrum]

Hey!

I am getting the Wooting 80HE sometime this year, and looking for some nice keycaps to go with it Im getting the Zinc Allow frame (from the pre order) , any suggestions feel free to reply to this message and ill take a look!

[little glen]

What color zinc case?

Raw?

[polar girder]

I think I’m leaning more and more towards the 461E

Gasket mount need

[heavy topaz]

I already removed the keycaps from all stabilizers, but it's still stuck. I don't think it's related for now.

I already unscrewed 8 screws and following the latest Wooting tutorial video on YouTube. The last thing I noticed is that the pins of the Jade switch are too tight, which prevents me from pulling the plate off.

[harsh dove]

They shouldn't be too tight to pull the plate off

Could you show me the bottom of your PCB?

[heavy topaz]

Can you check if I missed something? Do I need to unscrew the stabilizers too?

[harsh dove]

Looks like you have all 8 unscrewed, stabs are fine as is.
Where are you trying to pull from?

[heavy topaz]

I'm trying to separate the plate from the PCB from The far left edge in the middle.

[harsh dove]

Try doing it like this, if you haven't

It may require some force but not a crazy amount

[heavy topaz]

But I did it like that and it's still stuck. lol.
I will send the video give me a minute.

[harsh dove]

That's kinda odd, and okay

[heavy topaz]

I don't have a camera holder.🥹

[harsh dove]

No worries

Don't pull from the middle tho

Pull from one end

Like I did

[heavy topaz]

Ok i will try.

[shy musk]

Hey are the White ANSI with Kana pbt keycaps seethrough/backlit? I currently have the doubleshot ones and the rgb shines through the letter itself but i wonder if they do that on these too.

[harsh dove]

Let me know

[heavy topaz]

It's out now, but it's still stuck at the corner. What the heck, the PC plate is very hard to pull off.

[heavy topaz]

Thx you so much finally out

[harsh dove]

Glad I could help

[dapper kernel]

[cedar gate]

I heard that the icons on the pcb are from the founders

[dapper kernel]

why was urs so much harder

[polar girder]

Yeah

[cedar gate]

Did any of yall get icons

Seems like you have been here for a while

[polar girder]

Icons for what

I just never leave keyboard - modding lol

I think I like linked my Wooting profile to discord so it knows I own one and I have the Wooting member role I think

Or something like that

[cedar gate]

No I mean an icon on the pcb

[polar girder]

Ohhhh

Right mb

[stray tiger]

Those are only for super badass people

[tawdry ore]

Very wealthy

[polar girder]

• The Whale

[loud tiger]

A quick heads up

Hyperx pudding Keycaps sound like ass

I wanted more rgb than the wooting ones so I got them but nahhh the hyperx make the keyboard sound and feel awful

They look mid at best. A lot better in pictures than in person

[stray tiger]

We could have told you this!

[pastel vigil]

You have discovered a few of the reasons most of us generally dislike the "gamer" keycaps.

[loud tiger]

@stray tiger i just wanted more rgb

:/

thought the difference wouldnt be as much

omfg im back on the wooting keycaps and they feel and sound so much better

[scarlet moss]

Where can I find a case for the Two HE ?

[stray tiger]

There are no available after market cases for the Two HE

[pastel vigil]

You can't.

[scarlet moss]

Bruh I really like the look of the 80HE with the raw case but I want a full size keyboard

[pastel vigil]

#1216240474663419995 If only

[polar girder]

Really need south facing LED to let them shine. Sad.

[scarlet moss]

Not something that I will buy but look good 🙂.

[leaden pawn]

has anyone tried these for 60he+ module? https://kbdfans.com/products/compatible-accessories-for-wooting-60he?variant=41579926618251

[dusky orchid]

The Gateron Jade actually improve the keyboard sound over the L45s hand lubed?

[fluid ravine]

Day 2 of no electricity and internet...

I miss home

[fluid ravine]

Sound is just preference but in terms of feel/stem wobble yeah absolutely.

[normal schooner]

this is the best answer

[fluid ravine]

Jades are a long pole sounding switch which leans to the clacker side due to their travel distance being cut off to 3.5mm from the closed bottom housing. Lekkers (and V2), KS20, KS20u, and Raptors however are on the lower or neutral pitch end (or which some of yall call "thock"), so they would sound the same except the KS20u having a cleaner top out sound from the dual rail system.

There's that for sound comparison^

[fluid ravine]

But otherwise follow this^

[thorn zealot]

wdym by clean top out sound?

and how is the stem wobble on the jades/dashes compared to the ks20us

[fluid ravine]

They are quite the same
Pretty tight

[fluid ravine]

Top out is when the stem hits the top housing

[thorn zealot]

alr thanks

[fluid ravine]

Bottom out is when the stem hits the bottom housing

[fluid ravine]

Yeah no problem, just to elaborate, since the KS20U and Jades/Dashes have an improved stem tolerance (stem wobble), they tend to have a little to no rattle when the stem makes contact with the top housing. Most users like me usually would have problems with the mold design of the lekkers as the stem would fit too loose causing it to have a chattery sound. But now after time flies, new HE switches are coming out and being improve when talking about these molds. So when you're considering a better feel (and possibly sound when affected) KS20U, Jades/Dashes (KS20T), and Lekker V2 currently have the improved stem tolerance mold.

[tall rain]

Are the sticky rices still not recommended or are they good now? Debating between ws dashes and the sticky rices rn

[paper bloom]

@tall rain Check in #🪛│modding_faq

[pastel vigil]

dashes all day

[cedar gate]

Consider the ks20 dual rails

[tall rain]

thx ill check em all out

[marsh saffron]

Sticky rices are a no go unfortunately

[polar girder]

Yo the more I think about it, I’m liking the idea of plate mount stabs on a gasket mount

[stray tiger]

That's how I run

[weak inlet]

when should we approximately expect the jade dual rail for wooting?

[tribal tundra]

What spring weight are in the gate Ron jades

[pastel vigil]

30-50g

[tribal tundra]

No direct?

Number

Do they change the sound

cuz i want THOCK

[marsh saffron]

30 is the actuation force, 55 is bottom out iirc

[tawdry tree]

Yes but their sound profile isn’t “THOCK”, it’s CLACK.

[mint oracle]

Man I felt like I was crazy talking about stem wobble in here a few days ago

Cool to see more people excited about improved stem tolerance switches that were sensitive to it or didnt like wobbly switches

[leaden pawn]

bump

[deft wing]

between the jades and ks20u which one has a cleaner sound.

[stiff basin]

anyone know where i can buy these kind of key caps?

[cedar gate]

No point in waiting if I were you its just gonna be 80$ jades that are a hair more stable jades are stable enough lol

[covert vigil]

Does anyone know of an aluminum case from a third party that supports stripe?

[winter jacinth]

Hi doaes anyone have a link to buy PBT keycaps in ISO FR format ?

[cedar gate]

Everyone always says stock wooting sounds terrible but me coming from a membrane that was free with my pc it sounded pretty good lol

Especially after tape mod

[untold wigeon]

Can I use any switch on the wooting

[tawdry tree]

Only magnetic switches, check #🪛│modding_faq for the list.

[harsh dove]

That’s what I was doing on the frog until I got my SK Knights

My stock wooting plate mounts sounded good so I ran with em lol

[polar girder]

Nice

What’s up with SK knight

[harsh dove]

I have the carbon fiber one, works great

You need the countersunk standoff kit

[harsh dove]

They have silicone injection treated stems and housings

They’re hype somewhere tho cause they sell out fast every time I see them lol

They’re basically “Holee” modded already

[polar girder]

Bruh

Quieter?

NEED

[dapper kernel]

Look interesting, i might try this for the 80he

Always had some stab rattle myself

[grizzled edge]

Hi guys, anybody tried (and succeeded) in modding a wooting keyboard to fit the french-swiss layout (especifically a mac one)?

[cedar gate]

For mac?

[grizzled edge]

yes

[cedar gate]

Damn that's difficult

[grizzled edge]

the screenshot i made is exactly what I have on my laptop

[cedar gate]

I'm not sure if it's mac compatible

[grizzled edge]

the keyboard? why wouldn't it?

[cedar gate]

But if it is just get a set of pbtfans keycaps and put it on your kb on that layout

[cedar gate]

Honestly idrk I never tried it on mac but if it is great

[tawdry tree]

Everglide cooking up a true 8KHz board. 🫢

[cedar gate]

But anyways then use wootility to bind it

BTW that enter key won't work

Sry get used to rectangle enter key

[little glen]

Those keycaps look like a weird mix of iso-de and iso-fr

You might be better off buying blanks and just touch typing

[grizzled edge]

My problem is that I am completely new to the whole topic of high quality customised keyboard, and feel really lost in the amount of details and parameters >.<. There seem to be quite a few different switch types and keycaps available, probably with various levels of compatibility/affinity I presume. Even on wooting's own website there already seem to be 3 different types of keycaps. I have no idea what difference it makes

[cedar gate]

But honestly if I were you I would just try to get used to ansi muscle memory is easy to override and it's much more widespread

[grizzled edge]

that's switzerland middle ground for you 😄

[little glen]

ISO is the one you want if you need the bug upside down L shaped enter key

After that it‘s just what legends you buy

[grizzled edge]

yeah, as opposed to ANSI, I think I got that at least haha

[little glen]

But for some places it might just be easier to buy a blank keycap set and not worry about legends

Since what the key does is set by the OS, not the keycao

[cedar gate]

If you want to know about keycaps I would generally recommend pbt over abs and the most high quality is pbtfans rest is preference but cherry profile is the easiest on your fingers

[little glen]

Keycap*

[grizzled edge]

I'm surprised no one has come up with a system of blank keycaps with very small OLED screens on it for full legend customisation

[grizzled edge]

Cherry vs OEM? I'm not sure what is the difference. The slight concave curvature is it not?

[little glen]

No because those would need power

[tawdry tree]

That’d cost an arm and a leg and introduce the issue that they’d need to communicate with the board/PC and need power.

[grizzled edge]

I mean there's leds beneath keycaps, and a led bar. that require both power already, don't they?

[little glen]

The keycap is just plastic

And separated from the board by one or more layers of material

[tawdry tree]

I believe if you read the description of Woot’s keycap listing it explains what the difference is.

Doubleshot PBT, Dye-sub PBT and Etched ABS I believe

[polar girder]

Screw-ins eh? Dang. Nice

[harsh dove]

Yeah they’re screw in

[cedar gate]

If you have to pick between the two I would go cherry

[polar wasp]

Hi, I lost one of the Take Control strap screws, Is there a link to a good replacement screw set?

[glossy pagoda]

You can email [e-mail] and our team can help you out

[grizzled edge]

yes I found the detail about different manufacturing technics, but fail to understand why one would want one or another

[median spade]

Height

OEM is essentially just taller cherry

[glossy pagoda]

ABS is cheap to make small quantities of keycaps, perfect for oddball languages.
PBT is more durable but has a high upfront cost for manufacturing molds.
Dye sub allows fancy prints on all 5 sides of the keycap

[dapper kernel]

Knights stab works with jades right?

[harsh dove]

Yup