🔧│keyboard_modding

[elder hollow]

Ordered, thank you for your help 🫡

Was also a bit cheaper than wooting with free delivery, insane

[full tulip]

What size o rings would I need for burger mount?

[dull sequoia]

If you order from gateron directly, keep in mind you will have to pay tax (for the import)

I have an "old" 60HE and would like to add the PC plate and a tofu60 redux. However I have the ISO version. I just saw, that the top right screw poses an issue. It states there might be performance issues.
Can someone explain what can go wrong? Maybe someone here has tested it or has the same combination?

[sour blade]

where can i find this list

im aware of this one

[sour blade]

40

[halcyon dawn]

what is the cheapest gateron jades should be?

[tawdry tree]

The seller being trust worthy is all that matters. There isn’t yet a Jade clone if that’s what you meant.

[halcyon dawn]

yes because i got 70 switches of AliExpress for €27

[burnt heart]

Uh oh

[sour blade]

maybe you met someone who loves losing money

[glacial wind]

That’s not that abnormal

There’s a ton of welcome deals for 70 jades on aliexpress. Jades are cheap to pickup these days

[sour blade]

they're like, super into it

[halcyon dawn]

haven't got a case but they seem to work? not sure how i should set it up in wootility though with the 3.5 travel distance

just gotta make sure the actuation point is above 3.5 right??

[tawdry tree]

No need with the latest firmware.

Just treat 4mm in wootility as bottom out.

[halcyon dawn]

ah okay cool

[sour blade]

i saw someone in this chat order this before

[paper bloom]

p sure there is a beta for it

[sour blade]

what does "-This time around we won't be pre-lubing the switches." mean

[paper bloom]

It means they wont lube

[sour blade]

that cant be safe

[paper bloom]

You get it without the lube LOL

[tawdry tree]

No need. Just the latest firmware.

[sour blade]

i know but how did they even get it from the gateron factory

like that

[paper bloom]

Probs a special batch order

Or a talk via manufacture

[halcyon dawn]

or they stole the lube

[paper bloom]

Sure but lets hope he sees it through if he doesnt like it just update to beta

[paper bloom]

scraping the lube off of the springs

LOL

[halcyon dawn]

nah they lick it off lmao

[paper bloom]

NAHHH

[halcyon dawn]

mmmmm

[tawdry tree]

Nah, beta isn’t finalized. The latest firmware works well.

[paper bloom]

I mean no one has reported any issues on it tho

As far as i got told

[halcyon dawn]

when i get my keyboard setup I'll try the beta.. gives me an excuse if i lose a game

[tawdry tree]

Beta is beta for a reason. There are also no chances that are essential for Jades or anything.

Fair fair

[paper bloom]

You can do that 😂

[paper bloom]

WELP we'll see we'll nevet know

never*

[tawdry tree]

#🙆│wootility_contribution 😉

https://discord.com/channels/167181566978555904/1187862357720977530 *

[paper bloom]

O i c

[sour blade]

i buy unlubed jades and put

gpl 105 on it custom

good?

[glacial wind]

probably just bad translation for factory lubed

there's no such thing as unlubed jades

[sour blade]

yea

jesus christ guys i had 8 jades left over from my other build

and im playing with them on my WASD movement keys

and the rest of the board is ks20

while im waiting for my order

also ffs theres no good he switches other than jades

that are 3.5mm out

raw he is in June

[paper ginkgo]

What do you guys think of the tofu redux?

[paper bloom]

Good case

[paper ginkgo]

Great, I would get that one with the module and Gateron Jades

[sour blade]

glory to the advantages of mass production and modern logistics how is the tofu only 60 dollars i do not know

[paper bloom]

1 word CHINA

[obtuse fossil]

raptors are fine no ? also sticky rices also not bad

[sour blade]

raptor is 4.0
its not bad but its nothing special, id be getting ks20 dual rails over them (if 4.0mm)

sticky rices are not compatable with wooting

[obtuse fossil]

they are tho

you have sticky rice he switches

[lament zenith]

Hi, can i undo tape mod?

[obtuse fossil]

Just remove the tape gently

Done

[elfin garnet]

Sticky Rice is a no go

@obtuse fossil

[mossy nexus]

If you pull from the keycaps on the top right corner (i.e. backspace) the plate flexes and the switches raise a bit from the pcb as the top right standoff cannot be attached to PC plate on 60HE ISO. In normal actual use you should not notice any difference.

[obtuse fossil]

Jades king for a reason

[elfin garnet]

just replying to this

[obtuse fossil]

Ow yea okay in that way yes true

[dull sequoia]

Does that damage the plate? Also the description mentions this might cause performance issues... I do not understand why this might be the case.

[lean cliff]

hello should i change housing or switches first?

and should i get raptors or jades

[agile grove]

the switches need to be within a certain range away from the sensors in order to work properly. the PC plate on non + iso boards has an incompatible standoff, allowing the plate to bend more which could result in the switches distance getting out of the calibrated range which can cause issues.

however is regular use you are very unlikely to encounter any issues

and it shouldnt damage the plate as long as you are gentle and arent ripping keycaps out with as much force as possible.

[obtuse fossil]

if you care about rgb raptor is a no go everything will be dim and redish

[polar girder]

Can confirm. Raptor RGB is trash

Reddish and dim

[flint silo]

does anyone know what keycaps profile suits the wooting 60he north facing switch?

[stray tiger]

https://discord.com/channels/167181566978555904/1103459740186595399

[agile grove]

I wouldnt recommend raptors, the magnets are too strong and cause issues with wooting boards. also, are you going for clack or thock?

[flint silo]

oh mb hahaha, okay thanks

[polar girder]

Raptors are only good if you want to stem swap them IMO

[agile grove]

at that point I would prob just buy a different switch tbh

[median spade]

Jades only

[polar girder]

Yeah. Buy Raptors and l45’s and combine them for the best switch on the market

When there’s a switch that’s better (read: deeper and quieter) then I’ll care

[agile grove]

ks-20us

ks-20us are deeper than frankenswitches iirc

[median spade]

Sorry that's Jades

Only thing with franken raptors is the friction for most

[obtuse fossil]

i didnt experience any friction or unusual amouts of friction

they were pretty smooth in my cased and very solid

[median spade]

Mine have/had friction I just used them fo ra month at the time and it went away

[glacial wind]

It’s not so much that they don’t work or that they get stuck, rather towards the end of the press there’s a friction that causes it to feel heavier

[stray tiger]

I think you have it backwards

I stem swapped with my oldest l60's and the stems fit fine. I dont think I had a single one with an issue. I also did a very very light lube during the stem swap

[median spade]

tbh if sound is the concern I'm not only sayhing to recommend stem swapped raptors and jades

KS20u sounded exact same as my og lekkers from 2022

[agile grove]

really? I remember hearing that frankenswitches were higher pitched. good to know.

[stray tiger]

I do agree hat the KS20U's sound the same as Lekkers. They just have a little less stem wobble

[median spade]

Got them in yesterday and returned to amazon all within the same hour

they also had more stem wobble then my jades

Which is wild to me

[stray tiger]

I'm hoping the Wooting bosses send me some v2's early so that I can test. Ive been working to build a better database of switches and Im curious to see how much different the v2's sound.

[median spade]

Also the other weird thing is they felt noticeably heavier than my jades with L60 spring which was odd

Does make me interested to see what they do with V2s

[stray tiger]

That does seem odd. I dont have sensitive enough fingers to really notice things like that over a short period of time.

[median spade]

Was quite interesting to me I noticed so much

used them for about 40 mins in my 60he

[harsh dove]

Wake me up when something better than jades knocks on the door

[wind karma]

stem touching the housing causing friction??? possibly?

[polar girder]

Friction for some*

[magic flume]

all i need is to buy the module get my own case and switches and thats it?

[wind karma]

keycaps

?

[magic flume]

ofcourse

[wind karma]

yeah that should be it

[polar girder]

Yeah

[magic flume]

whats switches are the best?

[wind karma]

that's subjective but most people like the gateron magnetic jades

[magic flume]

why is that

[wind karma]

i built my 60he yesterday and it has jades. i really like it personally

[wind karma]

just sounds good idk.

its on the clackier side if that matters to you

[magic flume]

ok and what about cases witch do you recommend?

and whats the difference between mechanical and magnetic switches

[median spade]

I mean it's everyone just level of adjustment and use

the way the stem and the housing interact etc etc

[hidden sundial]

I finally decided to get a case for the two-he machined and i was wondering if there is anything i have to look out for
Like threads, inserts, tolrenace and what type of aluminium would be best

Wanted to do it with PCBWay

[median spade]

6063 for case material

Add a giant brass weight

[hidden sundial]

I Just want to get a case using the files Provided
I have no clue how to Use a CAD Program so i could add such an indent for a brass weight

[stray tiger]

Just finished testing the Gateron / Keychron KS-37C switches and they are a no-go for the Wooting. Max out at 2.6mm

[tawdry tree]

They’re consistent, as would be expected from Gateron. Simon has work to do. 😉

Is Simon the only one working on Wootility, the firmware?

[elfin garnet]

The set u bought @stray tiger is just too beautiful

https://youtu.be/IVjNYgjz870?t=299

[stray tiger]

I don't think this is a firmware fix. They are south polarity switches with the same magnetic strength as the north polarity ones, so Im guessing the sensor just isnt able to collect enough data. MAYBE it can be fixed in firmware but only after a switch selection function is added. The reason most other south pole switches will fully register is they are almost twice as strong.

[sour blade]

oh hell nah what is this

oh nah bruh

whos building a board in this

someone has to do it and it snot me

[stray tiger]

I didnt buy the novelties since they are UV printed but they do look sweet!

[sour blade]

why is my keyboard wrinkly

also nice gmk eva deskmat

bro the beige one looks like flesh 💀

[elfin garnet]

Is that the standard for novelties? Even GMK?

[stray tiger]

Negative, not standard but required when you get to multicolored like that

[sour blade]

i think there are newer gmk sets where even the legends are uv printed correct?

[stray tiger]

Like the GMK Expo caps are UV for example https://omnitype.com/collections/keycaps/products/gmk-expo-cyl

[elfin garnet]

Just asking because some GMK sets have novelties similar to this and I like some of them. Maybe it's not worth buying if its UV printed?

[sour blade]

oh yeah

exactly that set

lmao

[tawdry tree]

A lot of data can and is collected in the KS-20 series, a lot a lot more than the 40 “steps” needed. Going of of the Rakka’s raw data here. I think it’s definitely something firmware can fix, same exact thing happened to Jades really. The switches also don’t trigger calibration which is also something firmware can resolve.

[elfin garnet]

like these from GMK Mictlán

[tawdry tree]

Those are those sugar skulls right?

Idk what they’re called exactly but I got one once 😅

[elfin garnet]

https://oblotzky.industries/products/gmk-cyl-mictlan?variant=43566051426572

[elfin garnet]

I don't know. It's these

[stray tiger]

With the latest beta firmware calibration is happening 3 times (resting calibration during power on), then typing initial travel calibration and typing full travel calibration. It does somewhat calibrate during typing. What you would really need is a switch selector though so that you can tell the software a rough expected range, otherwise the software doesnt know why the numbers are so far off. The other issue is that the sensor range is finite and is only able to read within a certain parameter. Some of the switches will overload the sensor and it will think it's maxed on travel when it isnt.

[stray tiger]

Yes those novelties are UV printed

[elfin garnet]

Prob won't be a problem tbh. It's on keys that are not used that heavily

[tawdry tree]

Well, switches that don’t exceed 3.5 or so mm are unable to trigger calibration i.e calibration during use. Being able to select a switch type or a manual calibration mode like I suggested a while ago would resolve that. Sensor overloading, well 🤷‍♂️

[stray tiger]

I do know Simon is working on that, he just hasnt made it official.

Updated switch testing list added to https://discord.com/channels/167181566978555904/1103459740186595399

[tawdry tree]

Yeah, is he working alone by the way? Do you know?

[stray tiger]

Simon is really 4 people who work day and night and never rest.

[tawdry tree]

🥲

It’s a lot still for 4 people that is one person.

[polar girder]

Ofc

Bruh stays strapped with the heat

[spiral anvil]

The wrist rest isn't pinm

😭

Bro it looks nothing like the photo 😭

[pastel vigil]

I might buy these for a themed build for halloween.

[pastel vigil]

PC, Nylon, Pom, Open bottom housing. I am dying for some switches to come out with unique combinations of materials instead of just using a different color or spring and calling it a day.

[elfin garnet]

I've considered them many times but not sure if I'm gonna like all the colors on the alphas

[pastel vigil]

Theres a kit without the colors on the alphas iirc

but either way itd literally just be a temporary build for halloween

I love halloween so I like to get festive with it lol

[elfin garnet]

Yeah, there is but those look like shinethrough keycaps with RGB turned off lol. I would like if there was 1 color on the alphas

[tawdry tree]

LTP White and Pink/Strawberry are reversed polarity. Not the same as the KS-20 series.

[fluid ravine]

What case and key caps is that Pops?

[elfin garnet]

😄 nothing wrong with that

[pastel vigil]

Yeah a kit with just orange or something as the color on alphas would be better

[elfin garnet]

100%

[alpine pond]

Eyo what keycaps are these they’re such a nice colour way

[spiral anvil]

KAT Lucky Jade

[alpine pond]

Thanks! Love the build

[stray tiger]

Someone in here tested these. Can you confirm?

[tawdry tree]

I have the Whites, they’re reversed polarity. It’s also in some listings that they are not for Wooting boards.

They were for the LTP board

Looting

🤣

Also is Raptors top housing really PA12 nylon?

[median spade]

So pink it’s brown

[median spade]

I have such doubts on it as so different from my pa12 Mx stuff

[tawdry tree]

All the other clones like Hejin and LTPs all have PC, would seem odd.

[stray tiger]

Geon lists it as pa12 so that's what I put

[median spade]

He do indeed

I’m just glad the RAW are finally opaque

Errr milky rather

[tawdry tree]

If Hejin’s Gauss values are accurate you can copy them to the Raptors as well. Can retest later if you wish ofc.

Geon also states raptors HEs are 5pin switches. So 🥴

[polar girder]

Lost in translation

[pastel vigil]

Common Keyboarding L

[polar girder]

Common English speaking L

Skill issue

If only we knew Korean we wouldn’t have this problem

[tawdry tree]

True

Everyone should just learn ever language, how hard can it be?

[pastel vigil]

I'm just waiting for when we can put a chip in our brain that lets us understand every language.

Skip the language learning years

[stray tiger]

Trying to stick with manufacturer provided or confirmed info. I did update the Latenpows though!

[tawdry tree]

All good, it’s up to you.

Could prob just link the google.doc instead of a pic so you don’t have to update it every time.

or link as a google doc rather*

[stray tiger]

I can't, info I don't wish to share in the doc 🙂

[tawdry tree]

👍

[cedar gate]

Bakeneko or Graveshift o rings and which one from the one that's better

[stray tiger]

Both seem fine to me but more options from Graveshift

[cedar gate]

Wbt hardness I was debating either 30A or 50A?

I'm not super experienced with kb so idrk if I want bouncy or stiff.

[stray tiger]

Either is fine but get both. They are fairly inexpensive

[cedar gate]

I'm also a bit worried about the site I have bought on similar well-known sites before and every other time my card was charged for thousands in other cities

I don't have another grand to lose so I want to make sure that the site definitely won't hack my bank account

[stray tiger]

@harsh dove https://inkwellkeys.com/shop/ols/products/hells-gate-extras

[stray tiger]

I can't help you with that part but if your credit card company or bank didn't reverse the charges I would focus on finding a new bank

[cedar gate]

They pinned it on me...

Basically they told me if i made "iresponsible decision which jeprodized my money's safety it's on me not them"

[stray tiger]

Yup time to switch banks

[lean cliff]

hi what keycaps would be lower than the standard wooting keycaps?

[cedar gate]

I highly recommend cherry profile gmk for abs and pbtfans for pbt

[magic flume]

hey can you guys recommend me good 60 he module cases

[paper bloom]

Tofu 60 redux

If not the alumaze

Salvation

[tropic crown]

quick question, how do I know what PCB supports qmk configurator?

[placid blaze]

wooting ones do not

if you are asking about wooting

[tropic crown]

not about wooting

wooting has wootility

[paper bloom]

It wld say

Usually if not u gotta ask around

[tropic crown]

I have a wooting but I am trying to build my second keyboard but I also want to remap the keys like the wooting

anyone know a good 60% PCB

[stray tiger]

https://kbdfans.com/products/dz60rgb-hot-swap-custom-keyboard-pcb

[tropic crown]

thank you

[crimson sky]

they use the additional pins that 5 pin switches have

[harsh jewel]

Does the tofu redux plate fit on the standard 60he iso?

[heady terrace]

are ws dash switches the same as jades

[tawdry tree]

Mounting pins are additional? I’ve never seen a 3 pin switch before w/o mounting pins. Either way, 2 mounting pin switches are generally referred to as 2 pin switches and opticals 3 pin.

[tawdry tree]

Yes, just a different color stem. 👍

[crimson sky]

3 pin switches don't have mounting pins

they were specifically designed to be easier to install due to a lack of mounting pins

[tawdry tree]

Oh interesting, I’ve never seen those before. Are they popular?

[crimson sky]

literally every 3 pin switch

[tawdry tree]

Popular/preferred over 5pin switches

[tawdry tree]

?

[crimson sky]

that is the reason why 3 pin switches exist lol

cherry mx is so old that a plate was not the standard when it came out originally

5 pin was for plateless, 3 pin was for plate

literally just to make factory assembly easier

[tawdry tree]

LOL, I literally haven’t seen them before.

Gateron and Cherry make 3pin switches?

[crimson sky]

yes?

cherry offers almost every switch in 3 and 5 pin

[tawdry tree]

I’ma search that up later

Not once seen em 😂

[zealous viper]

not sure where to ask this so i'll ask it here, i guess? i have an uwu and a 60he+; would it be okay to use the cable from the uwu on the 60?

it's nothing dire or anything the uwu cable just looks nicer with my setup lol

[leaden pawn]

just received wooting wrist rest. damn this thing is QUALITY

[velvet egret]

Frog mini came today:D

[stray tiger]

How long for the plate and standoffs to arrive?

[velvet egret]

took it sideways with my phone that's prob why

[velvet egret]

Plate should arrive on friday, the standoffs are set to arrive on the 22nd but i hope sooner since im leaving the 18th

[fervent kettle]

Hey, i just ordered Cherry profile keycaps do i need to use southfacing switches or are the L60 v2 compatible even when northfacing

[velvet egret]

They are compatible both ways. This isnt an issue anymore

[desert crag]

should I get the sticky rice HE switches or is it too risky?

[hidden pond]

Take a look at Modding FAQs, the sticky rice appear to be a no-go

[desert crag]

Yeah thats why I asked

[cedar gate]

The sound of my spacebar sucks how do I make it better

[median spade]

If you like wasting money sure

[stray tiger]

I feel like this sums things up lol

[desert crag]

I dont really understand like whats wrong with the sticky rice switches, do they have issues when pressing down 3.5mm ??

or so

[little glen]

Magnet qa bad so they inconsistent and can be too strong for sensor

[stray tiger]

Magnets are inconsistent and are known to cause major issues

[desert crag]

alright

should I lube my switches then

[little glen]

How many different names can a switch have

[desert crag]

I received my keyboard today and it sounds sooo much better irl

so im not sure if its necessary

[little glen]

Lube good or swap to jades

Or wait for lekker v2 and swap to those

[stray tiger]

I always recommend hand lubing switches and stabs if you want a more consistent experience

[desert crag]

I dont know if im determined enough

[stray tiger]

I would hand lube Jades and v2's also but Im a glutton for punishment

If youre happy with the board as it sound now then block this channel and go enjoy it!

[median spade]

Facts

[little glen]

If you have all the tools it takes like 4 hours for an inexperienced person (me)

[desert crag]

I just like seeing perspectives and getting advice

[desert crag]

thats the issue I dont and if I order ill prob never use them again in my life

[stray tiger]

https://tenor.com/view/meme-mortal-kombat-raiden-there-are-gif-18271777

[little glen]

Nah you‘d use them again

[median spade]

Use keyboard stock and then forget you were ever here

[little glen]

If not right away, maybe a few years later to refresh the lube and make them feel smoother again

[desert crag]

possibly

[desert crag]

already ordered a white case, the tofu redux

gna tape mod too

and swap keycaps

[median spade]

Doomed already

[desert crag]

😂

[little glen]

I watched the talk about the redesigned stabilizers and now i‘m convinced i need better stabs

[median spade]

Stabs are the one area that it's oaky

[little glen]

Idk why i‘m even thinking about that stuff, i‘m still running a keyboard from 2018

[median spade]

good stabs are always worth it

[little glen]

🤔

We‘ll have to see how the stabs on 80he are

[median spade]

They'll be normal

nothing to write home about

same as the module rn

[velvet egret]

those redesigned stabs wont be available seperate for a while no?

[median spade]

Yeah he still needs to get molds made

which is more $$$$$$$

[little glen]

Also they will probably be expensive as hell

[median spade]

Oh easily, I"m guessing $60-$80 myself

unironically

[little glen]

Tho if they eliminate rattle etc they might be worth it

[polar girder]

The lubeless ones?

[median spade]

yeah the norbauer ones

[polar girder]

Yesssss

[little glen]

Maybe i‘ll just get staebies but i have no idea if they are compatible with 80he

[stray tiger]

You should get them and let us know.

[little glen]

[stray tiger]

Ill be using the stock stabs since they seem to be really good

[little glen]

I have no clue haha i guess we‘ll see how they turn out

[median spade]

Stock ones are just gateron yeah?

Or look to be at least

[robust basin]

i saw a video of someone using switch pads for wooting module, the sound was overall better. could i do that myself?

[stray tiger]

You can do anything you like, its your board. However I suggest you read https://discord.com/channels/167181566978555904/1103459740186595399 before starting.

[polar girder]

Man that kilmat so sticky

Not that excited to have to cut it and throw it in the case but will at some point

Looking forward to the finished product but not the process

[stray tiger]

I ended up lining the entire top of my desk with kilmat (bamboo desk top) and then laid another piece of bamboo on top of that and sort of have them clamped together. It was fun...

[robust basin]

i wasn’t able to find anything on switch pads, this is my first time modding.

i didn’t know if switch pads interfered with jade switches or if that even was a thing

[stray tiger]

Switch pads of any thickness could potentially affect actuations, so they arent recommended but using a really thin pad would likely be ok. Avoid thick switch pads for sure

[robust basin]

0.5mm alright?

if there is any risk though, i’ll probably just lay off

[stray tiger]

Id go for .25 at the highest

[robust basin]

alright thanks

[elfin garnet]

Leeet's go. Mine is on the way 😄

[median spade]

Geon owes me royalties

[velvet egret]

I hope the standoffs get here on time.. so i can build it before i go

[stray tiger]

It could be 7 days or 70 days if its coming from KBDfans

[median spade]

[velvet egret]

Orderd it from aliexpress, that was quicker than kbdfans themselves

[stray tiger]

Same same. 7 or 70

[velvet egret]

0.0

this was todays updateShipping update
Leaving from departure country/region
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i have hope

There was no other place apart from kbdfans selling a kit like that i could find.

[elfin garnet]

🤞🏽 for u

I paid too much for all my stuff. 42 keebs sent me a render for the plate today and I see that I would have saved like $30 by buying from them

but then again. Tom got good recommendations from people on here so at least I can be sure that it will work

[velvet egret]

oh dayum for real.. the thing also is you dont know quality and if itl actually work

[elfin garnet]

This is the render from 42Keebs

[stray tiger]

42 keebs can't do countersinking I believe is what Tenturo said

[elfin garnet]

ISO Frog Mini plate

[elfin garnet]

That's true I forgot about that

I've paid tom and its on the way anyway

Too late now 😄

[polar girder]

Yooooo

Thockfather stays with the big brain.

Nice dude

That’s creative

I like it

[median spade]

TOM THE GOAT

[velvet egret]

TTG

[cedar gate]

How do you fix a spacebar that sounds bad

[vital ruin]

hi guys i need your help !

I finish to build my wooting 60he+ and i have the touch space and enter sometimes making the touch activate 2 times when i just press one time and is only doing with those touch

[median spade]

probs your keycaps

if there is no ticking or rattling

[stray tiger]

Are you using stock conifguration for all parts?

[vital ruin]

i use the l45 switches for every touch and i use the keycaps wooting

i lub every switches too but i dont think is come from a probleme of lub ?

[tawny carbon]

any people here modd the wooting 2 HE?

[median spade]

Using JST but having left side usb on the 80he is interesting choice

[harsh dove]

Afternoon modders

[velvet egret]

Ayoo.. hows it going cam!

[harsh dove]

Going good , got the day off so just chillin

[cedar gate]

I don't think it's my keycaps all the other keys sound fine

Should I put o rings in or pad the keycap or tune the stabs

[sacred jay]

they're fine even with my 50g ks20, but that might be memory when i use my cerakeys on a different board and just pom blanks on my 60he

[stray tiger]

They addressed this in one of ths streams where they said this is intentional based on gamer feedback that having the USB port on the left said has less interference with monitors and other items compared to the right.

[stray tiger]

Need to know your configuration (case, keycaps, stabs, switches, dampening, etc)

[median spade]

Really??? I've been complete opposite in that center would have been much more beneifical for same reason

[median spade]

And yeah what tirade said as it sounds pretty normal, and just the keycap/plate combo making it sound the way it does

[stray tiger]

Im guessing (pure speculation) a lot of FPS gamers turn their keyboard at a significant angle and keeping the cable as far left as possible helps mitigate the cable getting in the way of the mouse or monitor

Case in point

[obtuse fossil]

broski if you see this hmu ill send the alumaze when i find the time

[obtuse fossil]

can confirm i do this

[hard moon]

nah, tilting used to be a thing of the past actually when there was nothing but 100% layouts. These days it turned into something new where people even tilt their 60% keyboards for key access

back then we didn't have the luxury of 2 meters wide desks

[obtuse fossil]

it just feels better and it enables me to rest my entire arm on the desk

without actually putting my keyboard further back on my desk

[hard moon]

always kept my keyboards straight, limiting my mouse space on purpose to simply do better with what i have

[obtuse fossil]

i started tilting to have more mouse space but now its just what im used to and i cant use it otherwise even tho i have a 2m desk

[obtuse fossil]

lube ur stabs and put some foam or tape or whatever in your spacebar to make it les hollow

[median spade]

[median spade]

Ahh I see, I don't tilt mine so that's why I find left side worse

Just for length reasons as this my setup

[stray tiger]

I actually tilt mine the opposite way but not that big of an angle

[hard moon]

just curious, but is your desk by any chance black, 19~20mm thick, came with a cheap RGB stripe, a headset and a cup holder?

since there aren't many desks on the market that are 2m wide

[obtuse fossil]

nope i had a black one before this one but it showed to much of the dust and it drove me crazy i would wipe it 5 times a day xD

[hard moon]

yeah... ik that issue

I gave up on it and wipe it once a month

[obtuse fossil]

my currend des i made myself i bought automatically raisable feet and bought wood and put it together

[median spade]

Indeed the dusting with black is like every other day

[hard moon]

[median spade]

I have a air purifier, dehumidfier etc in my room and still

[sour blade]

prolly cause of ergo

[fluid ravine]

G'day

[stray tiger]

Good day!

[fluid ravine]

G'day Mate!

[stray tiger]

For those of you who want xray caps. If you recall i talked to the designer at Keycon who said that they have to hand paint the inside due to some isues with how they are made that leave black spots that look like crap. This is what they look like before they are painted

[median spade]

Haste

[old swallow]

tbf, its not the worst look

[median spade]

yeah alexotos on his stream just used white acrylic paint

[old swallow]

i do wonder how it will look in person, cause online the letters arent that legible, but i would assume it would be a bit clearer lol

[stray tiger]

I thought it looked great in person

[old swallow]

yeah, im getting it regardless lol

[fluid ravine]

Best mouse fr fr :D

[clever turret]

Custom cable recommendations? Beyond Wootings own, what else have you found works w/ the tachyon mode?

[elfin garnet]

https://wiredinstore.com/

[median spade]

My chubby cable off Amazon works

[sour blade]

cable from apple

[kind helm]

where do i find a sound test video for GATERON KS-20 Dual-rail Magnetic Orange? i finally see it on amazon

[stray tiger]

Sounds the same as the normal Lekkers with a little less stem wobble

[kind helm]

🤔 what about that weird scratch sound that i only ever heard on lekker.

i have jade rn, i remember some time ago some one mentioned that ks-20 orange is a bit deeper sounding, which i like more. so i am thinking about getting it

[stray tiger]

Can't comment on what you might have personally heard but the dual rails are the exact same switch as the lekkers but with dual rails on the stem

[kind helm]

alright, ty sir :3

[polar girder]

Fifine k688 gang

[fluid ravine]

Add on to what he said, Lekkers and KS20u's do have the same pitch/sound, what you're describing about the weird sound is the chatter noise from the stem making contact with the top housing. Since there's alot of stem wobble, the stem tends to rattle in the switch making a plastic to plastic sound. So in conclusion, the KS20u's have the same sound as the lekkers but without the chattery noise as the dual rail system allows it to have a major reduce in stem wobble.

[median spade]

Can confirm they sound exact same as lekkers as got mine in on Saturday, used for an hour, and back in my jades

The dual rail that is

[fluid ravine]

gib

[median spade]

I returned them to Amazon haha

Within the hour

[fluid ravine]

LMAO

[median spade]

[stray tiger]

@harsh dove https://novelkeys.com/products/cherry-copper?_pos=1&_sid=29da7d580&_ss=r

[harsh dove]

gib

[robust basin]

11 more days until i can start the build 😄

[fluid ravine]

Uh oh

We have a leak!

[lean cliff]

can any1 recommend some nice clear keycaps

pref w a black tinge (?)

[sour blade]

Waxed Lightly Weathered Cut Copper Stairs

[sour blade]

random tangent since ks20 were mentioned

my board has both ks20 and jades in it rn (dont ask me why)
i cannot believe this i can litearlly wiggle the ks20 down 💀
it litearlly can swing from side to side when going down

so cursed that i noticed this

[stray tiger]

Not really a bad thing unless it makes a sound you can hear and the sound bothers you. It does have advantages such as a smoother key press and the ability to press slightly off center without issues.

[solemn elm]

yall gotta hear me out on this one, I may just be autistic but if you make say circles of tape inside on a keyboard would i technically improve/alter the sound
because the shapes of tape inside the case would change the way that the sound frequencies bounce off of the surface
or am i just plain stupid for this idea

like would it drastically change the sound profile of hte keyboard or would it not be noticible at all

[tawdry tree]

I doubt it’d change it drastically but it would have an effect, how noticeable that effect is I do not know as I am not a sound engineer.

[sour blade]

circle tape?

[solemn elm]

like you make the tape into a circlular shape

and put in into the case

perhaps it would thock more

[sour blade]

can you draw how the circles would be arranged

are they overlapping

[solemn elm]

like this

and you also tape mod the pcb ofcourse

[sour blade]

how would the sound waves interact differently compared to

one piece of tape

[tawdry tree]

I think you’d have a better chance at drastically changing the sound profile by copying from techniques sound engineers use. Like tiny foam spikes or a layer of ribbed cardboard for example.

[solemn elm]

that was one of my plans lol

like i was gonna cut up little spikes from the foam squares for sound proofing

like using the square as a base

[tawdry tree]

Tiny foam spikes would be quite difficult but ribbed cardboard is definitely an option.

[solemn elm]

then putting that as foam

[tawdry tree]

Yeah you can try that.

[solemn elm]

👍

[stray tiger]

Just use polyfill. Same effect, less time and money

[sour blade]

that one cardboard keyboard

[tawdry tree]

Let the guy cook, it might be worth while.

[solemn elm]

wouldnt polyfill be less effective causee it has basically no density

and mass

so some of the sound waves would theoretically go past the small holes within the polyfill

[stray tiger]

No

[polar girder]

Time to swap some shit

[solemn elm]

what is that

[polar girder]

Kilmat

[solemn elm]

i forgo name

[polar girder]

Going to switch it from polyfill

[solemn elm]

THATS SO EXPENSIVE

[polar girder]

And put in silicone pad for plate

There was nothing before

[polar girder]

$13 for double what I need for one keyboard

[solemn elm]

wait is polyfill better than kilmat

[polar girder]

Idk I’m about to compare them and see what I think lolz

It’s all subjective

“Better”

[solemn elm]

ah

i mean might aswell try it with everything on aswell right

lol

[polar girder]

Yo this moleskin accidentally took my serial number off tho, whoops! 😆

[solemn elm]

wait are u using a tofuu case

[polar girder]

Yeah redux

[polar girder]

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0BBCZBVZ3?ref=ppx_pt2_mob_b_prod_image

[solemn elm]

ty

😭

[polar girder]

Sorry.

[loud tiger]

Whats so special about gmk Keycaps that someone would drop $130 on them

I dont understand

(I like them and I'm coping cause they're too expensive)

[tawdry tree]

They’re of pretty good quality and have unique designs.

[stray tiger]

Best materials, best legends, pays a fair working wage, pays the artists for the design royalties, humane working facilities.

[loud tiger]

Got it

[tawdry tree]

They aren’t really challenged in their market either afaik.

[loud tiger]

Oof

That explains

These look so sick

$185 to get that look smh

$130 for the base $55 for the enter, backspace keyz

[tawdry tree]

They do hold their resell value quite well but that’s only if you don’t use them (much). 🤣

[loud tiger]

Yeah I'm not planning on reselling

https://flashquark.com/product/pom-jelly-rainbow-keycaps-109-keycap-set-with-side-legends/

Pom jellies 😳😳

[tawdry tree]

🤮

[loud tiger]

Wtf

[tawdry tree]

😂😂

[loud tiger]

I love rgb

[tawdry tree]

Me too

[loud tiger]

🙂

[tawdry tree]

but those caps aren’t for me. Also if you plan on buying those the shine through will be very dim because Woot’s boards have north facing LEDs.

[loud tiger]

Oooof

I thought wooting was south all this time

Nvm

[tawdry tree]

Sadly not.

[loud tiger]

That's the problem I have with the normal wooting keycaos

The rgb isn't bright enough

[tawdry tree]

What? Really?

[loud tiger]

If the colors aren't the brightest possible, they don't pop

Coming from a hyperx keyboard that's my experience

[tawdry tree]

Woot has one of the brightest LEDs in keyboards 😂

Damn

[loud tiger]

Must be the keycaps

I'll put my hyperx Keycaps on the wooting to double check

[tawdry tree]

Yeah could be, if those HyperX caps aren’t double shot PBT they might let more light through

[loud tiger]

Maybe because they're north facing my brain doesn't register them to be bright enough

[tawdry tree]

😂😂

[loud tiger]

The hyperx ones are just PBT

Not double shot

[tawdry tree]

Oh

[tawdry ore]

@minor quail

[minor quail]

yooo

[tawdry ore]

I just met this guy

[loud tiger]

It's the hyperx alloy origins core tkl

[indigo ibex]

Has anyone done like 70g springs in jades?

[pastel vigil]

I have

[indigo ibex]

Interested because I have cerakeys

[pastel vigil]

no clue about cerakey shit

[indigo ibex]

They're just heavy and I think heavier springs will help the keeb feel a bit more springy or reactive?

Not sure what best spring weight would be but

Yea

Where does one even find the correct non magnetic springs?

[pastel vigil]

ali express

[polar girder]

damn this silcone pad + friction mount is not so hot for me rn lol

skill issue no doubt. it's the small o-ring too

my backspace pretty stuck lol

otherwise the sound is interesting.

from polyfill case/nothing plate to kilmat/silcone pad

little bit more muffled. interesting.

but yeah gotta figure out this friction mount x.x

[fluid ravine]

I cutted mine to friction mount with it

using it rn!

[tawdry tree]

I need a Japanese proxy service/forwarding package, does anyone know?

[polar girder]

Oh dang

[weak inlet]

i have lekker 45 switches i would like to lube them can anyone provide me with a list what should i buy on maxgaming cause i am from Europe (i cant lube stabs cause one screw has broken head so PC plate and PCB are inseparable)

[austere creek]

english pls

[dull sequoia]

Anyone ever tried modding the two HE or Lecker Edition? I mean there is not much you can do I guess. I can think of: replacing switches with jades, lubing switches, grease stabs, tape space bar. But what about a foam pad between the pcb and the plate?

I am :p

[crimson sky]

already comes with said foam

[dull sequoia]

It does? I did not open it yet, but in the "how to swap pcb" video I did not see any foam pad between the pcb and the housing. Just in the bottom of the case. Not sure if it is even possible to add a pad between the pcb and the housing

[crimson sky]

I thought it did

if it didn't you could add it obv

oh yea you are right

[dull sequoia]

Just brainstorming. I love my Lekker. I know it will never sound like a custom kb but maybe I can just improve it a bit.
I guess there are no ready to use foam/silicone pads for that format.

[crimson sky]

no, you could make or get a custom file and get it made by a service like 42keebs

[crimson sky]

would not be super complicated, I just don't know the correct spacing for alphas and f-keys

[dull sequoia]

I guess Wooting does. Maybe they can provide something.

[crimson sky]

@stray tiger do you know if such a file exists already or can you name me the proper unit spacing so I could create one for this guy?

[austere creek]

please dont ask the same question in multiple channels

[dull sequoia]

Oh wow, that would be nice. I wouldn't want to bother you too much though. Wouldn't we need to know the gap between the plate and the pcb as well?

[crimson sky]

nah that is standardized

[tawdry tree]

Probably not but all files of the two he are on github, that’s a start.

[crimson sky]

looked at it

and the best there is for it is a platefile

[tawdry tree]

Yeah

[pale cloud]

Should I lube my jade switches? Or it doesn’t rly matter

[velvet egret]

Jades factory lubed is pretty decent. but its up to you

i did lube mine

[pale cloud]

Did u find any difference?

U didn’t removed the initial lube right? Just lube on top of it

With 205

[velvet egret]

That is correct just lubed over it

[pale cloud]

Oki

[velvet egret]

a small difference. its a little deeper

[pale cloud]

What did u lube

I see some do almost everything

Top housing too

I normally would do stem and bottom housing

Springs

That’s about it

Would u recommend me to bag lube the springs with 105?

@velvet egret

[velvet egret]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88tnUYbxaIs&t=1s&ab_channel=alexotos

wooting also has a video

i know some people have bag lubed but i just handlubed everything

[pale cloud]

Oh okok

Tysm

@velvet egret did u film it?

Forgotten to ask

[velvet egret]

The difference?

[pale cloud]

idk

i mean

did u filmed

ur jades

[velvet egret]

oh film... no i didnt

[pale cloud]

ah okok tysm

[velvet egret]

@pale cloud incae you also want to lube your stabs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vxHb6CJc9V8&ab_channel=alexotos

[pale cloud]

Ty

[bright sapphire]

Anyone know a good stabilizers to replace the stock on wooting 60he

[stray tiger]

New stock stabilizers from Wooting

@median spade you can make your Korn dream come true again https://i.redd.it/i63fye6whuyc1.jpeg

[polar girder]

That looks fucking crazy

But it’s irrelevant cuz not 60HE compatible

[velvet egret]

https://wooting.io/product/lekker-spring-packs?Weight=Linear35

when did they come in stock 0.0?

[median spade]

What is this

Found it

Interesting

Price is good too

[bright sapphire]

whaat but i didnt get the module i got wooting 60he+

[stray tiger]

Same answer. Stock stabs are great!

[stray tiger]

Especially with the GMK caps

[bright sapphire]

what are the new stab stock on wooting compared to the old one

[stray tiger]

Same stabs. The 60HE has plate mount stabs and the module has screw in stabs.

[bright sapphire]

sry kind of a noob but what does plate mount stabs mean like it'll be different to install new stabs since its not screw in stabs? or like difficult

[paper bloom]

The 60HE+ module is basically Screw ins and the normal ones that are currently selling the prebuilts are running compatible screw ins to plate

Basically in a nutshell u can run Screw ins and its compatible now unlike the past Prebuilt

Plate mount stabs are easier than Screw ins in terms of adding since u dont gotta touch much of the lube and it depends on how u do it ig

[stray tiger]

Lets back up a step. Are you havign an issue with your current stabilizers?

[dull sequoia]

@stray tiger Did you see the question earlier, whether there is a file with the parameters required to create a foam pad between the pcb and the alu plate for a wooting two he / lekker? Do you know anything about that?

[stray tiger]

Im not aware of any cad files for the plate foam.

[dull sequoia]

Ah too bad

[wind karma]

can't you use plate mount on the module too

[stray tiger]

Yes you can

[crimson sky]

can you find out the unit spacing though?

would be enough for me to make a file without guessing

[stray tiger]

I do not own a two HE so I am not familiar with the spacing. From experience though I can tell you that it doesnt have to be a single piece of foam. You could likely buy some aftermarket precut foams for full size boards and cut them to fit really well.

[crimson sky]

could also work i guess

don't know where to point someone in that case tho

[stray tiger]

https://www.amazon.com/RunJRX-RUNJRX-Keyboard-Dampeners-RJ-092-1/dp/B09YGN8KSG/ref=sr_1_4?

[crimson sky]

judging from his name I think he is german

[stray tiger]

Those are sourced from China so he can check aliexpress and find them IM sure

[crimson sky]

imma look

aliexpress is super restricted in germany

due to packaging laws

[velvet egret]

@stray tiger Do you happen to have experience with the kbdfans spacer kit? (https://kbdfans.com/products/kbdfans-m2-3-countersunk-flat-head-screw-kit)

[crimson sky]

this + some cutting to make it work with ISO should work https://de.aliexpress.com/item/1005003125013768.html

[stray tiger]

Yes

[velvet egret]

Do to the Material being stainless steel. did you feel like it made an impact to the sound the board produced? if so what?

[stray tiger]

It's not for sound. Its because aftermarket plates need those standoffs to keep the distance between the plate and PCB consistent.

[elfin garnet]

https://wooting.io/product/lekker-spring-packs?Weight=Linear35

Springs in the wooting store now

[velvet egret]

oh no i totally understand what they are for. i was just wondering if those standoffs caused any different sound

[stray tiger]

There is no other standoff available to compare them against so there is no way to tell

[velvet egret]

ah alright thanks! was curious & you instantly answered my other question i had :p

[paper bloom]

U can

[elfin garnet]

I still don't know where these go lol

[outer finch]

Is it necessary to grab a pack of L70s or 80s for Cerakeys?

[velvet egret]

bhahaha what!? they go in between the plate and pcb

[elfin garnet]

Oh ok. I thought so but wasn't sure 😄

Probably will make more sense to me once I get everything

[velvet egret]

Those white thingies that stick out thats what they are

[elfin garnet]

I see but thought we ordered plates with those already. Isn't that countersink holes that we asked for?

[velvet egret]

no the plates dont have these it requires special tooling that apperently no one does.

the countersink makes it so that the top of the screw sits flush on the plate

[elfin garnet]

I get it now. Yeah so it doesnt interfere with the keycaps. And the kit from KBD fans will effectively be these white outliers. Gotcha

[velvet egret]

Yessss exactly!!

[leaden pawn]

does anyone tried 100?

[velvet egret]

they just got released so prob not

[elfin garnet]

They added them today so unless someone bought something similar off amazon I doubt it

[velvet egret]

the worst part of this all is the waiting game -_-

[median spade]

just requires a CNC vs laser really

and most places only have lasers as it's much cheaper

but hype has a CNC machine

Either way you will be fine overall as most of my plates i use don't have countersunk

[elfin garnet]

I ordered from hype so thats why I thought that I would get that on my plates

If not, that's ok. I ordered the kit as well

[median spade]

yeah hype has both but he does cnc mostly

so unless he was really backed up and did laser for some reason

[elfin garnet]

so most likely I wont need the kit? Is that what you are saying?

[median spade]

you need the kit regardless

the counter suck is just for the screws to sit flat with the plate

[elfin garnet]

again im confusing myself

[median spade]

otherwise it's just a normal hole so the screw head will be above the palte

[elfin garnet]

nevermind

[median spade]

Yeah hype usually asks too if you ahve a kbdfans standoff kit already too, or he did when I bought my 3 plates from him

[elfin garnet]

I'd be better off getting it here and then ask questions because normally I figure it out once I see it

[median spade]

I already had it from buying the kbdfans fr4 plate so I declined

[elfin garnet]

He didnt ask me but I should have asked him so I could save some shipping costs but oh well

[median spade]

[velvet egret]

If i get mine before i leave ill show ya 🙂

[median spade]

Just like the standoffs for the bottom of the case of the tofu

you will install them on to the plate

[blissful urchin]

can i put the gateron Magnetic Jade switches on the wooting 60he+ module

thx

[high nymph]

Nof all. The KBDFans PC plate is countersunk, but the FR4 is not, as example

[median spade]

For my apex players they added solos today

and it's already as bad as I imagined it would be playing some games on lunch

[high nymph]

@stray tiger have you tried the Raptors with the KBDFans PE Sheet between PCB and silicon gasket? Might be worthwhile to check if the sensor no longer overloads due to the magnetic reluctance the sheet may induce

Another!

This with KBD FR4 plate. Raptors with the PE sheet sandwiched between PCB and silicon gasket

[stray tiger]

The sheet has nothing to do with the sensor overload, it's just the lack of strict quality control and tolerances with the magnets Geon used in the Raptors. It's my understanding (but not confirmed) that this was resolved in his upcoming HE switch the Raptor RAW

[high nymph]

I was thinking that since the switches will now be more distant and also the sheet inbetween will no longer overload.. that was my reasoning

[stray tiger]

It might even be resolved with current Raptor switches but that would require them to publicly mention that the original ones used sus magnet's.

[high nymph]

yeah not gonna happen for sure

[stray tiger]

I think with the launch of his RAW switches, the originals will be phased out. The red top housing also didn't do him any favors with the RGB crowd.

[high nymph]

Yes, meanwhile I will need to wear these down 😛

[stray tiger]

He even talked about it on stream the other day regarding the diffuser he is using on the new switches. He basically said he is damned if does and damned if he doesn't, so he went with the diffuser.

[median spade]

Funny how that works as I've never had a issue with Raptors

I used them for like a whole month and liked them the best till I got jades

Seemed "more responsive" when I used them

[high nymph]

I have them on a few 60He's and no issues as well. and I use analog inputs

[stray tiger]

Out of a batch of 140ish I only had 2-3 that were outright bad but quite a few that overloaded the sensor. You wouldn't know unless you scanned them using the analog monitor and checked to see when the sensor believes the switch to be fully pressed. Otherwise they will "seem" to work fine

[stray tiger]

More responsive, especially at the top end of the press would make sense but it would be less responsive at the bottom of the return

[high nymph]

a thing of beauty

[median spade]

[stray tiger]

So what's everyone up to today? Work has been crazy busy for me the last few weeks. Feel like I have very little time to chat in here lately.

[high nymph]

today was mental. but left early to assemble this keeb. work will be there tomorrow 😄

I am testing with the analog monitor

[stray tiger]

@median spade did you manage to snag these yesterday in the 2 hours before they sold out? https://klc-playground.com/products/gb-gmk-rubrehose?variant=42588308603086

I didnt realize the quantity was limited but its because if you pre-order them you get a guaranteed Jane or Kohaku win

[median spade]

Welp wish I had known

[stray tiger]

I literally had the page open and was like "Ill order tomorrow" and went to bed. Oh well lol

[median spade]

It’s okay my wallet doesn’t need a kohaku

I forgot about the last raffle too and then 30 mins after it closed remembered haha

[little glen]

that looks really cool

god damn now i feel like i need to buy even more sets

[high nymph]

W key pressed in multiple pressure variations. I guess I wont have any problems. Even when bottoming out it didn't overshoot

[stray tiger]

Yeah that looks acceptable. Just a few noticeable bumps but nothing major

[agile grove]

the biggest issue would be inconsistencies between keys

while the W key may be fine another key may be completely off

[outer finch]

Cordial bump I sort of interrupted a convo earlier lol my b

[median spade]

Probably

Although for gaming wouldn’t recommend cerakeys tbh

Kind of defeats the purpose, they’re cool for typing to if you like the sound when I tried them

[harsh dove]

Damn I like rubber hose too

Oh well

Win some lose some

[little glen]

i wish they had only the novelties for sale

[harsh dove]

https://oblotzky.industries/products/gmk-cyl-rubrehose

[little glen]

since i already have a beige gmk set

[harsh dove]

I can get em from Oblot and pay crazy shipping if I want

[little glen]

i'd buy rn if they offered the novelties on their own

[harsh dove]

Would come out to $180 + $38 for shipping

That’s base kit + desk mat

Not bad

[stray tiger]

Thanks for the link. I ordered the base set. Ended up being $160 shipped which was the same price as KLC

[harsh dove]

Yeah I might snag em too tbh

I like that deskmat

Reminds me of the ones your friend made

[leaden pawn]

why gmk are so expensive? what's so special about them? i can get the price of 50-60 usd, but 160...

[harsh dove]

As Tirade said it, “Best materials, best legends, pays a fair working wage, pays the artists for the design royalties, humane working facilities.”

Idk the working conditions of them Chinese Amazon keycaps

[median spade]

best abs, best colors, best legends (for the most part), etc

[agile grove]

non existant probably

[harsh dove]

And not that I like to gatekeep anything but the limited sets/quantity also makes GMK feel more special if you’re into that

[median spade]

your lucky yhou didn't join the hobby in 2020

would have been paying top dolla for those sets

I got lucky and of the like 25+ gmk sets i owned never paid over $200

nor joined any gb ever for keycaps

[harsh dove]

Yeah some sets resell for like $500-700+

Order is in

[stray tiger]

primarily for the sets that either wont have multiple runs or were released in very small quantities/long long ago

[harsh dove]

Yeah

The one time only runs

[stray tiger]

Problem is you never really know which sets will be one time only runs usually. The Key Machine sets specifically state they will be one time only runs so those you know. Speaking of, next set releases in 7 days https://thekeymachine.com/products/002

[median spade]

Although it is interesting some sets they said would never happen again and then did

kind of sus

like frost witch

[dull sequoia]

You mean cutting out in any place where it doesnt fit? Could be worth a try. It doesnt have to fit perfectly I guess

[harsh dove]

Yeah that is the struggle indeed, not knowing which are one time or not

[harsh dove]

Yeah that too

[median spade]

Yeah, thakt one should work at the two he isn't anything special layout wise

[harsh dove]

Is there anyway to see what these ones look like?

[stray tiger]

https://clips.twitch.tv/PoisedBitterBearAMPEnergyCherry-9FMHOFME3hoshvFe

[harsh dove]

Damn

Those are nice

[stray tiger]

Its a Browngundy in colored, looks super sick and was designed by a guy here locally who works for NK and is in my local keeb group

[harsh dove]

Yeah I was reading up on it

I like the red/brown cream

Plus the lore behind it

[stray tiger]

Yeah thats the best part. There are similar colored sets like Bordeaux but this one seems much nicer (to me)

[frozen crag]

Hey guys I have a question

[stray tiger]

Speaking of NK, SK Knight Stabs are now available at NK - https://novelkeys.com/products/swagkeys-knight-stabilizers

[frozen crag]

I got the wooting 60he+ and was wondering is it worth getting the jade switches instead of the normal ones? And will this affect performance at all?

[stray tiger]

Ive heard they work great and are a better long pole option than TX AP

[stray tiger]

Worth is not something we can answer but it wont affect performance.

[frozen crag]

Did you use the@?

Them?

[stray tiger]

Jades?

[frozen crag]

And do I need different slabs

And yes

Do you have them

[stray tiger]

Yes and read here https://discord.com/channels/167181566978555904/1103459740186595399

[frozen crag]

Did you replace slabs or use the circle thingy

[stray tiger]

neither, I used my original stabs

[frozen crag]

And do u use that beta thingy

So u use the ones it came with still?

[stray tiger]

Yes

[frozen crag]

so u use the original and use the beta experiential

[stray tiger]

yes

[frozen crag]

So did u get any wobbling?

[stray tiger]

no

[frozen crag]

Ok I appreciate it so much so I have to make sure to use that beta too

So it won’t affect .1 accuation

sorry for the questions too

I’m not good at modding and stuff

[stray tiger]

Not required but its the suggested version

[frozen crag]

Ok thank you so much

Do they feel lighter than the original lekkers

Or is it really just sound wise

[harsh dove]

Bro I kid you not, I was literally checking this morning if these were in stock and they weren’t (from what I could tell) they only had the clear ones available from the official site and it was like $40 shipping for me

[stray tiger]

Slightly easier to press but mainly for sound

[stray tiger]

Just wait to order until Friday and then you can see what the Friday sale will be

[harsh dove]

Ight

[frozen crag]

Thank you thocker

I appreciate it a lot

Getting them@tomorrow

Hopefully no stable

Got one more question if I use .1 acc what’s the recommended rapid trigger .15?

And do y guys use telleaiton?

[stray tiger]

There is no recommendation. Thats all pref

[ivory stream]

Hey guys what could I mod when it comes to my wooting? I swapped the case, tape moded the pcb swapped the switches and applied poron pads und the switches

[stray tiger]

Question #1 - What problem are you trying to solve?

[ivory stream]

Any way I can improve sound?

[polar girder]

Define improve

Make it more or less what?

Sound preference is subjective

Like I mean lube your switches is probably the only universal recommendation if there was one

But nothing is mandatory

[polar girder]

Tune stabs, diff case, diff case filling or foams, switch or remove plate pad/foam

I mean there’s a bunch of different stuff you could potentially do. But you don’t have to do any of them.

[median spade]

How you like the kilmat btw

[harsh dove]

Best mod, hands down, objectively, not subjectively… is to just tell yourself it sounds and feels better without changing anything at all

And boom, you’re done

Ez as 123 ABC

Your wallet and brain will thank you later

[velvet egret]

Bonus: ( Save a bunch of money in the process)

[polar girder]

I think it’s ok

But I also changed to silicone pad so it’s not fair direct comparison

But I’m going to try no tempest and poron plate foam tonight with it

Will let you know

[polar girder]

I like to say “damn that sounds good” every time I listen to the sound

And then you just believe it

No my Enter tho

I actually do verbalize that every time

[harsh dove]

Lmao

Yeah the sad thing is if you’re someone like me, you have to test everything, I can’t just take someone’s word for it lol

[median spade]

[loud tiger]

Someone cooked here

I'll see if I can find similar looking ones on aliexpress

These are $240 Canadian

$170 usd

Nvm I found the original ones for $120

[stray tiger]

Yeah that looks good. Similar to

[fluid ravine]

[loud tiger]

@stray tiger can you take a pic with the rgb

😳

and which ones are yours

[polar girder]

https://wooting.io/product/lekker-spring-packs

Bruh

Why am I so late to the party

L35s?!????

100’s is crazy

That’s sweet

Exciting times

[polar girder]

Just gotta make sure

[polar girder]

That’s crazy how the keycaps (and the lighting) totally change the look of that case. That’s sweet

Those are both very nice

[stray tiger]

GMK vaporware

[fluid ravine]

Cutting up my original poron plate foam for a better mounting fit with the gummy pring

[stray tiger]

not feeling the silicone?

[loud tiger]

THX

thx8

[fluid ravine]

Oh I like the silicone, but I wanted to see what its like to have poron again but this time having the friction mount not so tight
I tested the poron again a few months back but when inserting it with the gummy mount it was really hard to do, it came out ok but i didnt like it cus everything sounded stale and the feel of the keeb was as hard as a tray mount.

But there is a problem I've been having lately, its my spacebar, no the stabs are fine, its just the way it sounds, like depending on the configuration it can either sound deep or really hollow which I'm not a big fan of. Im more of a guy that likes that solid sounding spacebar if that makes sense.

Silicone

Poron

[fluid ravine]

@stray tiger The time I ask for help has finally came, you know anything that would solve this issue Pops?

Or the potential causes to this

[stray tiger]

I think the spacebar sounds good to me. Has something changed?

[fluid ravine]

Like between the two sound tests?

^If you're asking this, I personally think the one with poron is a bit more hollow

There's one thing I did notice that change the sound of the spacebar significantly, the tempest mod, I have stated that 1 layer would literally change my whole keeb's sound acoustic like drastically. From like stale/thin to deep, the alphas were not a big deal to me from either side but yet again the spacebar was.

Either sounding like stale as a potato chip or just deep/hollow as speaking into a tube

[stray tiger]

I dont run tempest mod on any of my boards but thats obviously personal pref. I actually like a stronger spacebar sound (as long as it not rattling)

[teal yew]

yoo whats up. ive never modded a keyboard and im trying to mod a wooting 60he. as a base, do i purchase the entire keyboard or just the plate $139 option

[fluid ravine]

I really want to not run tempest but for now I just gotta (imo)
But yeah I really like stronger spacebar sound as well, but I really don't know how to "tune" it in such way other than eliminating rattle and all that

[bright sapphire]

Not sure yet my wooting 60he+ is supposed to arrive today, but all my other parts like tofu, keycaps, ws dash switches are yet to come. Just wondering cos i saw people on reddit that had gateron jade having issue with their space bar lifting left or right when pressed.

edit: when they swap their switches to the jades since its 3.5mm and the lekker 60 are 4mm

also keycaps i ordered are https://keyper.au/product/kaiju-custom-keycaps/

[harsh dove]

Have you tried without tempest yet?

Also spacebar sounds bubbly to me

like popping bubbles lol

in a good way

[stray tiger]

I'd cancel the keycaps order if you can. You can get a real set of GMK Kaiju for the same price instead of knock-offs https://oblotzky.industries/products/gmk-cyl-kaiju-part-deux. Also, Im not sure who the people were on reddit that had issues but its very rare for that to be a problem. You can find more info in the https://discord.com/channels/167181566978555904/1103459740186595399

[fluid ravine]

Yes I have

[stray tiger]

You like what you like.

[fluid ravine]

yep T^T

[fluid ravine]

Well thats interesting, now im thinking that it does

[bright sapphire]

oh so ur saying the one on that site are fake or not real gmk kaiju?

[stray tiger]

Yes

[bright sapphire]

oh damn ok ty for the info ill cancel that rn

[bright sapphire]

do you have any keycaps recommendations similar to that color as i got the tofu redux anodized silver, the fake one had a really nice color way with green/orange and white was going to pair it with an artisan keycap for esc key

[stray tiger]

You can get them at the link I sent you for the real ones

[bright sapphire]

since novelties is out of stock i wont be able to get the orange

[bright sapphire]

Base only included the green and white color way

Edit: also that site keyper are all those keycaps fake, what are the legit sites for authentic keycaps?

[frozen crag]

Hey Thock got a question about the beta.wooting sure

Site

Do I just connect my keyboard to that and it gives me an option to update?

Bc I’ve already connected to the normal one and updated from that

[stray tiger]

The normal one wont give you the option to install the beta firmware

[stray tiger]

Are you in Australia?

[bright sapphire]

yes!

[stray tiger]

https://dailyclack.com/collections/in-stock-gmk

[frozen crag]

So even if I already used the normal site when I switch to beta I just reset up everything there?

[stray tiger]

No, your profiles will be saved.

[stray tiger]

If you really love Kaiju (and you should because it was designed by a local guy I know who works for NK and he is a class act) then buy the base kit from the first link I sent and then keep an eye out for the novelties on mechmarket

[bright sapphire]

Mechmarket? is that another site. yeah i love the color way which will match my setup as i am going with a silver case, orange/green/white look to my keeb and since my desk is mostly light colors

[harsh dove]

Mechmarket is a subreddit

People Buy/Sell/Trade Keeb stuff on there

[bright sapphire]

Oh okay will keep an eye out

also @stray tiger how can you tell the difference between real and fake keycaps since that site i showed u i couldn't tell how the kaiju keycap set was not authentic

[median spade]

35

breathe one them and they actuate