🔧│keyboard_modding

[vale swan]

i find the tofu and the salvation way more comfortable to type on than the alumaze

wrist rest or no, the alumaze sucks even with the wrist rest

tofu is 7 degrees, salvation is 7.5

[foggy iron]

i tried an old wrist rest from a razer keyboard i got pain very quick in my hands idk

[foggy iron]

alumaze should be better without ig

[vale swan]

used it with and without

i find it to be way too flat for the height

if it was like 15-16mm height it'd be much better

[foggy iron]

hmmm idk, i like the looks of the tofu and the wooting wrist rest but it give me pressure in my wrist

Didnt tried wooting wrist only razre

[vale swan]

the tofu with the rest gives you wrist pressure?

you might wanna try the alumaze then but the alumaze sounds much thinner than the tofu does

[foggy iron]

i tried the almze with a razer wrist rest 😄

bot 4 and 7,5 degree

both

[vale swan]

and what did you think

[foggy iron]

pain in my wrist XD

[vale swan]

at 4 degrees too?

[foggy iron]

4 degree was too low for a wrist rest for me

[vale swan]

that could be a fair point

[foggy iron]

is there really such a big difference in sound ?

between tofu and alumaze

[vale swan]

oh yes it is

the alumaze has a metallic tone to it

and is thin

the tofu doesnt have any of those if you pair it with a brass weight

[foggy iron]

damn thats a hard one

just going for the standard one LOL

[rain charm]

hi guys, do you know if it's possible to swap the springs on the gateron jades with lekker springs?

just wanted to see if i could get a cursed frankenstein setup bc i prefer heavier switches but wanted to try the jades

[vale swan]

they are the same springs just lower force required on the jade ones

what you are doing is called spring swapping

its done a lot

[rain charm]

right

okay, gonna give it a shot when my jades come in then

thank you 🫡

[vale swan]

its not a huge diff tho

its 30-37 and ends on 50 for the jades and 40-60 for the lekkers

[cedar gate]

Which pc plate is best for the 60he+

Like the one from wooting kdbfans or smth else

And what sounds better tape mod or burger mount

[harsh dove]

Just get the wooting pc plate for guaranteed compatibility, you can do both tape mod and burger mount if you like or try one at a time.
Tape mod will give your board a poppier sound and burger mount will just help with sound consistency via the dead spots near the screws

[vale swan]

burger mount and tape mod are different things

[vale swan]

kbdfans has no PC plate and there is no reason not to get the wooting one

[cedar gate]

That was a grade a brain fart mb I meant what's better tape mod or foam imna do burger mount either way

[vale swan]

well theres no such thing as better for those

you need to experiment

in the tofu with the module/alumaze foam tape made it worse for me in all configs

in the alumaze i 100% wanted the foam and tape

in the salvation i hate any foam but like the tape

[foggy iron]

burger mount is a o ring on and under the pcb right?

i can just use the silicone standoff things couldnt i?

[vale swan]

you could maybe

[vale swan]

yes

[foggy iron]

you tried the burger mount in the alumaze and without burger mount? did that anything ?

[vale swan]

I mean it did for sure it softened the buttom out around the screw hotspots

Personally i dislike the alumaze from a sound and feel perspective but love it from a looks perspective

it is way too thin compared to the tofu redux or the salvation or the fjell or w/e

[foggy iron]

alumaze is just the only available over here 😄

and ill get it for like 100€ which is much better than 130

[vale swan]

go on aliexpress on the kbdfans official store and you'll have a tofu and weight

for like 85-90

no customs fees either

[still wraith]

Does anyone know if the EVA foam included with the 60he+ module fit underneath the Alumaze? Or do you recommend to get a mousepad for underneath?

[foggy iron]

you really want to get me that case 😄

[vale swan]

i want you to get the best value for your money

kbdfans doesnt pay me to sell it

in the end its your choice, i dont really give a fuck

[harsh dove]

I prefer no foam in any of my current builds as I just don’t like the sound profile of foam, polyfill is a good option if you’re willing to experiment, I also prefer Moleskin tape over regular painters tape. Gives a deeper sound.

[vale swan]

100% agreed except for the tape, i dont mind any tape

[harsh dove]

And I don’t run any PCB foam/silicone either

[vale swan]

based

[harsh dove]

Yeah no tape is fine too , I like it in the salvation especially tho because it removes the ping for me since that case doesn’t have any foam or polyfill at all

[median spade]

I had the silicone in before i did gummy owring as it made higher pitched

[vale swan]

yep same here

i have not tried an MX pcb in the salvation yet so tape might not be needed there

[harsh dove]

Yeah probs not

[median spade]

it is not needed

sounds 50x better with mx pcb

[vale swan]

oh tenturo

you too with that decoration

😭

its so ugly

[little glen]

Just use spray foam in your keyboard for best sound (dont do this)

[vale swan]

just buy a keyboard that doesnt need foam to sound good 5head

[harsh dove]

I just can’t get behind foamy sounding boards personally

[vale swan]

i used to like them but now not anymore

[harsh dove]

Yeah Alex said the same thing

[vale swan]

theres nothing wrong with foam but i just want the keyboard to sing for itself

same with the plate and switches

[median spade]

that's the point

[harsh dove]

Yep

[vale swan]

im sure ur all cute under all of that :)

[median spade]

[rocky geyser]

Hey peeps. My HE60+ should be shipping soon and I know when I ordered on their website, non of the keys stood out to me. I was looking more for all-clear, or more see-through type options to let the RGB stand out more. Not NO font on the keys or anything, but the only thing I've seen is the RandomFrankP video and he showed some off. Does anyone have a link or source to keys that work with the Wooting that are quality (just PBT though), but have more openness to their see through, even if it's close sides but the face is all see through (except the font on key)?

I don't know much about keys and swapping so that's a weakness of mine. Like, where to buy good ones and make sure they are compatible.

[cedar gate]

Do you mean clear key caps

[rocky geyser]

Clear ones I would definitely consider. I've seen ones where the face is clear, but the rim/sides are still black, and that was snazzy. But I'm super in the dark on what people consider some good sources that are compatible with the HE series. I'm very good with technology, but not very good in this area. All clear, partial clear, font on, or just no writing on the keys are all things I would consider (this is an area of subjectivity so I'm loathe to say NO to anything).

[stray tiger]

https://deadline.space/collections/keycaps/products/deadline-air-wave-pc-keycaps or maybe https://keyreative.store/products/asimov-transparent-keycaps?variant=44355781918877

[cedar gate]

You might like pbtfans neon

But they are abs

If you want the top quality keycaps pbtfans is the way to go

[cedar gate]

Are you planning to fully mod you keyboard or just swap a few parts

[stray tiger]

@devout torrent stop stalking me on X!

[devout torrent]

HAHA I happened to see your reply on the post

[vale swan]

that sounds really suspicious

[stray tiger]

https://tenor.com/view/hmm-suspect-gif-22611582

[devout torrent]

https://tenor.com/view/stalker-shyporter-elan-gif-24940001

[rocky geyser]

I was looking to just swap the keys. I have done that with keyboards before and rubber rings. But I don't want to go too deep down the rabbit hole.

[stray tiger]

Smart man

[vale swan]

imagine taking twitter one of the most easiest to remember social media names and renaming it to a porn site name

[devout torrent]

considering the amount of porn on it seems apt

[stray tiger]

He is playing 5D chess

[vale swan]

he is

thats why the company is worth 40% of what he bought it for

[rocky geyser]

I'll probably also search/scroll through the history here for the keys people have posted as well.

[stray tiger]

https://discord.com/channels/167181566978555904/1070668460905988106

[vale swan]

i should make a post there as soon as i swap keycaps

and tidy some shit up

[shell parrot]

got the ks-20u today and they are very nice, sound is much better than the lekker imo

[rocky geyser]

These might be 'cheap', but would they fit the HE60 (ANSI btw)? I like the price but does anyone know a superior brand of the same style? https://www.amazon.ca/Redragon-Standard-Doubleshot-Translucent-Mechanical/dp/B096ZZ8R34/ref=asc_df_B096ZZ8R34/?linkCode=df0&hvadid=683002435397&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=3578642503039028779&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9104139&hvtargid=pla-1644559521971&mcid=3178db049e053f20b38fb0e0c77a460a&gad_source=1&th=1

[still wraith]

Steelseries Prismcaps, Glorious Aura Keycaps V2

No clue if those are better but they’re similar to those

[rocky geyser]

Awesome. Gives me some things to check out!

[stray tiger]

I'm not a personal fan of any of the pudding caps but don't let that discourage you.

[rocky geyser]

OK, the glorious pudding ones are a softened glow, that might seem dull. Would you consider the lights on the HE60 to be normal, on the brighter side, or dull?

[agile grove]

extremely bright

[vale swan]

really fucking bright

even with GMK caps

the backlighting on this is crazy

[harsh dove]

So bright they make noise when your put your ear up to the board

More easily noticed if at full brightness

It’s a high pitched whine almost

[vale swan]

it makes a similar noise to tinnitus

[harsh dove]

Haha yeah

[vale swan]

i already have 2 of those

dont need a third one

[median spade]

good old coil whine bby

[vale swan]

its not as bad as coilwhine of gpus at high power draw

that shit is quite smth

the keyboard one is annoying while typing, that one is fucking atrocious

[median spade]

yeah my 4090 whines under certain scenarios and it's ear piercing

[vale swan]

mine doesnt whine at the normal powerdraw

like 350-500 watts

but above that my god

[median spade]

only time i get it to do it is like 4k with high frame rates 240+

[vale swan]

i get mine at extreme power draws

i have had spikes above 600 watts

with really shitty optimized games

i can hear those through my headphones

tho i am not on aircooling

[pastel vigil]

its so fucking distracting

I relaly need to sit down and undervolt one day

[vale swan]

well mine doesnt really coilwhine unless i really overclock it and play shit games

[rocky geyser]

Oh, wow. Good to know. Not the coil meme, but the general brightness.

[vale swan]

theres almost no coil whine at around 120 fps at 4k with about 350-400 watts of power

[vale swan]

i'd keep it below 70%

its really fucking bright

[rocky geyser]

I'm going to get an acrylic Tofu60 case. I've seen some use it and it looks nice. Thank god you can lower brightness, lol.

[vale swan]

real chads use south facing switches, blacked out plate and black gmk caps so there is barely any rgb even at 100%

[vale swan]

this pcb has no underglow

[pastel vigil]

If you use the black PC plate it makes it slightly dimmer

[vale swan]

the kbdfans plates really make it dull

[rocky geyser]

I just like the acrylic look, lol, no underglow is even better.

[harsh dove]

Yeah I’ve only ever heard my 4090 whine on like Cyberpunk max settings

[vale swan]

mine doesnt there somehow even at 120 fps

[harsh dove]

Yeah iirc it was only on startup , once the game is running it’s fine, but it’s been awhile so I’d have to check again but that’s what I remember at least

[vale swan]

ah ye

cuz it runs at like 700 fps

in the startup

[harsh dove]

Yeah lmao

And it’s loading/rendering everything

[vale swan]

u should try alan wake 2 if you liked how cyberpunk looks

it looks insane in certain areas

its also a great game

[harsh dove]

Oh yeah , I played that a tiny bit, I just haven’t completed it but yeah that game looks amazing

I completely forget I even owned that haha

Now I have to go check it out again

[vale swan]

u should also try Horizon Forbidden West, the Nixxes PC port is immaculate and it looks insane for a rasterized game

[harsh dove]

For some reason I never got into those on PlayStation , haven’t tried em on PC tho

[vale swan]

i played it with DLAA+FG at 4k with ultra everything and got about 140-180 fps

[vale swan]

horizon sucked on ps5

[median spade]

well not quite immaculate

[vale swan]

i find it impossible to aim a bow and arrow with controller

[median spade]

you need to disable reflex, mouse smoothing, and an bunch of other stuff so it doesn' thave choppy frames

but once that's done

[vale swan]

mouse smoothing is instantly disabled

disabling reflex is a bad idea with FG on

[median spade]

Well you have no choice

[vale swan]

ye

[median spade]

if you use FG reflex is on

[vale swan]

i think there is a way to force it off but thats a real bad time

[median spade]

but I don't use FG myself as input latency feels awful and the artficats/looks blurry in motion

[vale swan]

i see

for me its fine if you have 60-70 fps as your base fps

in horizon i had 100 as my base fps

either way good games n good shit by nixxes

[harsh dove]

This for me basically

[vale swan]

i cant wait for ghost of tsushima

[harsh dove]

At least in the games I’ve used FG

Too much ghosting

[vale swan]

there is ghosting in cyberpunk with it

[harsh dove]

Yeah

[vale swan]

that is for sure

Cyberpunk probably has the worst implementation of it and RR

AW2 and Horizon had no issues

[pastel vigil]

Its funny because for me it never whines in demanding games. Only on potato games. In demanding games it sometimes whines during menues and loading screens.

[harsh dove]

Yeah it def whines on poorly optimized games

But yeah only on startup for certain games it’ll whine but once in game it’s fine

[vale swan]

still cant get more than 30 fps in gta 4 😭

[pastel vigil]

I beat evil west recently and it just whined the whole time. I could cap frames to limit the whine, but I hate the input lag it brings.

Maybe input lag is not the right word, but i hate how slow and unresponsive low frames can feel like.

I'll remember to undervolt next time i play a game that whines the whole time.

[vale swan]

yeah im so used to 100+fps

i'm not sure how i'll play gta 6 at 30 fps lmao

[pastel vigil]

Yeah like 90 is the absolute minimum.

If am not hitting at least 144 then something is wrong lmao

[polar girder]

240*

[vale swan]

oh this is the wrong channel for this

[polar girder]

[vale swan]

i am once again asking for a donation

[pastel vigil]

https://tenor.com/view/the-simpsons-homer-simpson-good-gif-126191627745920871

[vale swan]

for GMK Redacted

give me the keycaps

[pastel vigil]

literally just got them in the mail a few days ago

[vale swan]

really?

[pastel vigil]

Such a sick set

[vale swan]

can you snap a pic?

[pastel vigil]

It's still in it's box

[vale swan]

i am using dracula on the white salvation and i wanna pick up either striker or redacted for it

[vale swan]

when you use it

[pastel vigil]

Plan is to use it for the 80he

[vale swan]

you got the white one?

[pastel vigil]

I got ghost or phantom or wtever the fuck it's called

[vale swan]

i feel like on the 80he the smokey plastic is the way to go 100%

[pastel vigil]

Waiting on the final cases to see if it's worth it to go white zinc or raw. But i think redacted would look good on smokey.

[vale swan]

I'm a bit scared that it will sound muted due to that pretty thick ass silicone pad in it

[pastel vigil]

idk why, just screams 90s to me.

[vale swan]

fuck ye

also when redacted shines it will turn into a BOW set

thats a nice little trick

[pastel vigil]

Yeah I love that with use the sharpie just fades and you have a standard bow set

[vale swan]

yeah im probably gonna go for that

[pastel vigil]

One of the prettiest boards I've seen online

[vale swan]

mode sonnet

such a classic

[pastel vigil]

The sonnet is PERFECT for this keyset

[marsh saffron]

i still think these keycaps look stupid lol

[vale swan]

it is dude

[pastel vigil]

to each their own

[polar girder]

The hell is the point

[pastel vigil]

half the boards people post here I wouldn't use for free lmao but I let people enjoy things.

[polar girder]

What am I missing lol

[marsh saffron]

like i get what its going for i just think it looks dumb

[polar girder]

I don’t get it

[marsh saffron]

its redacted like a government document

[vale swan]

ye i really hate people who get a tofu or an alumaze then slap aura caps on it lmao but like u said to each their own

[polar girder]

Ahh

Ok right

Ofc

Yeah i don’t like it but whatever lol

[vale swan]

thats fine

[pastel vigil]

Ya I just stfu when I don't like someones setup, highly prference driven hobby and it's all subjective no point really

people like what they like you know

[vale swan]

i like money

find me a person that hates money

i dare you

[harsh dove]

Same, when I see 60 nowadays, it looks like 30 fps

[pastel vigil]

60 is so choppy

[vale swan]

60 is still doable tho not on keyboard and mouse

[harsh dove]

Yeah

It’s rough on my eyes tho

[pastel vigil]

People on console turn on motion blur and tell oyu about how 30 is cinematic

lmao

[marsh saffron]

60 gives me motion sickness now

[vale swan]

30 is horrible

60 is ok with a controller

[marsh saffron]

i dont really settle for below 100 fps

[harsh dove]

Pfft even dragons dogma 2 on controller is rough

[marsh saffron]

depends on the game

[harsh dove]

But that game is poorly optimized

[vale swan]

dragon dogma 2 is a pile of shit port

[harsh dove]

Yeah lol

[marsh saffron]

some games its playable, others its a nightmare

[pastel vigil]

It's that 30fps on a TV that can only do 60fps anyways doesn't feel as bad as 30fps on a monitor that can do 170

[vale swan]

MTX fucking fast travel and creating a new character that is insane

[pastel vigil]

its like playing 1080p on 1440p monitor looks worse than a native 1080p tv

[vale swan]

idk tbh i dont really have any 60hz tvs anymore

[pastel vigil]

literal trash and somehow topped the steam charts, gaming is doomed man people keep supporting bullshit.

[vale swan]

yeah people are defending this

on RE Village once the pirates removed denuvo it doubled the fps

I wonder if its the same thing here

or they really fucked something up

[pastel vigil]

Ironic when your DRM makes people want to go pirate. the game.

[vale swan]

you couldnt even pay me to play this shit

absolutely atrocious

its like forcing me to use old gaming keyboards

tho fr we should all use a corsair k70 for a week

[latent fern]

hahaha

[harsh dove]

No thanks, mines in my closet

Along with my SteelSeries

[rocky geyser]

If I'm just looking to put the board inside the new case I don't really need to consider the options too much right? Making sure I'm not missing anything (I'm fine with the stock switches). Just not sure if anything else here is a strict upgrade to consider really.

[pastel vigil]

If you just want the case then no you don't need to worry about anything here.

But wait 6 hours or so

KBDfans doing a spring sale

[rocky geyser]

For sure. Serindipitous timing.

Thanks everyone for all the help. finger guns emoji

[cedar gate]

The Amish has entered the chat

[cedar gate]

I would get the weight definitely. It's necessary imo.

[grand hill]

So i've lubed my keyboard and put tape on the PCB, what is the next thing i could do to make it sound better?

[spice pelican]

burger mount, bandaid mod

[harsh dove]

Not much besides changing switches/keycaps and trying different combinations of mounting methods like Friction Mount, and trying different things instead of Case Foam/PCB Foam, like polyfill, silicone PCB pad instead of foam, or using nothing in between at all like myself, plenty of things to mess with to acquire the sound you want

Friction Mounting would be my #1 tho in a standard tray mount case

Also understand that not all mods are for sound, some mods are to fix a certain issue you may be having with a specific component on your board

And some mods are useless

[pastel vigil]

Some mods are also for feel.

And just because you made/added a mod doesn’t mean you improved something, since its a matter of taste.

[burnt gust]

Does anyone know where I can get grass keycaps so I can tell my friends when I haven't been outside any day, that I have touched grass?

I'm actually genuinely curious, it would be cool to have them as a joke too

[loud zephyr]

wtf but here ya go https://twitter.com/HyperX/status/1509926086553083908

HyperX (@HyperX) on X

our TCH Grass keycaps are OUT NOW!

https://t.co/wztNkVfVzV

Twitter · Apr 1, 2022, 4:10 PM

[burnt gust]

Thank you

They don't exist 😦

[heady terrace]

are these the new ks20us? https://mechkeys.com/products/gateron-ks-20u?variant=44792748343519

@harsh dove whats ur fav switch now?

[fluid ravine]

yep

[harsh dove]

Still Jades

I like Ks20u tho

Got em in my salvation currently

[heady terrace]

are they good enough to overtake the frankenswitch now

[harsh dove]

I prefer them over Raptor Hybrids (frankenswitch) but that's just me

too much friction imo

[tawdry tree]

That was a message from a long while ago. Yes, they come in white now too! I ordered them a while ago and they are in fact the 20Us despite their “non U” listing and wrong description. They come in Backspace’s OASIS 75HE board. I don’t think they’re actually harvested from the board but could be left over. That’d explain their dirt cheap price too.
@pastel vigil might interest you too.

[harsh dove]

and tbf I've tried them twice, once with L60s and recently with L45s

[heady terrace]

i just saw ur live on ks20s what mods do u have in ur boards? idk my frankens dont sound the greatest

[harsh dove]

In the salvation I basically have no mods really , just moleskin tape mod

[tawdry tree]

When I’m away you spawn in again.

[harsh dove]

Tofu has polyfill, moleskin tape mod, friction mount, jades

[heady terrace]

wb the alumaze

[harsh dove]

Empty

[heady terrace]

oh damn

where do u get ur polyfill from?

[harsh dove]

I like the Alumaze with no case foam tho

Amazon

[tawdry tree]

Anything I’ve missed? I see Gateron listed the orange 20Us on their AliStore, finally. 🤣

[harsh dove]

Mmh not really, been kinda slow unless I've missed stuff

at least nothing that piqued my interest

KBDfans has a spring sale coming up soon

[heady terrace]

are u gonna be copping the zoom65 he cam

and these new orange ks20us are the same ones that they use in the boog75 right?

[tawdry tree]

Boog75 uses 37Bs, basically 20U’s (slightly) bigger brother.

Only board that comes with 20Us stock I know of is the Oasis.

[heady terrace]

is size the only difference?

[tawdry tree]

The extrusion you see on their bottom housing and their stem has an horizontal rail.

Left is a KS-20/Lekker switch and the right is the KS-37B.

37Bs are not compatible with Wooting’s existing boards and never will be as they physically don’t fit.

[rough fractal]

does anyone know of a plastic case that works with the wooting 60he and has adjustable feet, im wanting to get the pcd modle but want a case that has adjustable feet :(

[heady terrace]

the stem has a horizontal rail? also whered u get those 37bs?

[tawdry tree]

Check AliExpress for GH60 cases maybe?

[tawdry tree]

Yes it does, it’s pretty odd as it doesn’t seem to do a whole lot. They’re from the ATK68.

[harsh dove]

They also make attachable feet that are adjustable

[heady terrace]

ahhhhh okay thanks

[rough fractal]

@harsh dove where do i find those at ???

[heady terrace]

im contemplating if its worth to buy the ks20us rn or wait it out until the zoom65 he comes out

[harsh dove]

https://a.co/d/3jQqKwF

Something like these

but can look around

[tawdry tree]

Zoom65 will have the same GTech PCBA like nearly all other HE boards out rn right?

[rough fractal]

@harsh dove ty

[heady terrace]

is the gtech pcba super inferior to the wooting board? im not sure what it comes with

seems like it comes with 8k polling though

[tawdry tree]

It’s not super inferior at all, just depends on your budget really.

[tawdry tree]

Then it won’t be the same PCBA, could still be from GTech though.

[heady terrace]

ahhhh fair im just looking for the medium between HE and a nice custom sounding board

which would probably be the zoom65 he

but still trying to see if buying the ks20us are worth it at that point since the gb for the zoom will probably be near the end of april

[tawdry tree]

tbh, the ATK68 sounds great stock, has most of the “important” features, better build quality and cheaper price.

You won’t get warranty, support and future feature updates like you do with Woot though.

[heady terrace]

yeah i already have a modded woot so i probably wouldnt get that one

[tawdry tree]

You have a Wooting board already?

[heady terrace]

yee

currently have frankens in them rn

[tawdry tree]

Oh 😂

If you dislike the stem swapped raptors because of their tightness the 20Us would be an upgrade

[heady terrace]

iirc this is the vid of my frankens and they just didnt sound that great to me

[harsh dove]

tofu?

[heady terrace]

uhhhhhhhhhhhh i forgot the name, its the meksanik brand or something

[harsh dove]

ah ok

any deskpad?

[heady terrace]

no deskpad

[tawdry tree]

I’d rather spend the money on other upgrades than the 20Us.

[harsh dove]

is that a glass desk?

[heady terrace]

yea, i dont use that desk anymore

[harsh dove]

sorry for the questions lol I'm just tryna figure out where the ping was coming from

[heady terrace]

klippe t*

[harsh dove]

ah ok

[heady terrace]

no ur good i get it

[tawdry tree]

Can be phone mic too

[heady terrace]

also true ^

[tawdry tree]

😂

[harsh dove]

yeah nah I knew that was the cause of the echo

the ping was confusing me tho

[rough fractal]

guys i still cant find a case, ive been doing this for 3 hours...

[harsh dove]

Just get an acrylic like your name

[rough fractal]

i cant find one :(

[harsh dove]

https://kbdfans.com/products/tofu60-redux-case?

and acrylic Alumaze would be kinda sick

or PC

[rough fractal]

hmmm and then i could get somehting like those feet you sent

[harsh dove]

Yeah, just make sure you read reviews

some of those might not be great

[tawdry tree]

Not so much “adjustable” feet but removable nonetheless.

[pastel vigil]

it's a shame these were only shared on this server right after I bought some of the orange duel rails, could have saved some money haha

[pastel vigil]

buy my alumaze

jk

[pastel vigil]

Do you like it? Am considering it.

[tawdry tree]

My bad, I shared the listing with friends and waited until I received them.

I posted them here when I got them though.

Not the listing but the switches.

[pastel vigil]

no it's all g, I forgot who posted them first but I first saw them like last week, I ordered the orange ones the week before. But if it's just a recolour and being slightly cheaper it's not big deal.

I'm on the mission to try ever HE switch lmao

I got lekkers, jades, raptors and duel rails, not sure what next

[tawdry tree]

Yeah, just a recolor. I paid like €50 for 90PCs but they’re €7/10PCs now I believe.

[pastel vigil]

I've also frankensteined some jades with raptor stems that I am gonna test out at some point

[tawdry tree]

Same!!!

[tawdry tree]

All reverse polarity switches!

[pastel vigil]

I'm too late to this hobby to catch up/keep up on mx switches, but with HE I can stay up to date and try it all as it develops lmao

[tawdry tree]

Don’t bother, just looser basically. 😅

[tawdry tree]

Yeah, exactly.

[pastel vigil]

i know it's looser, but it's a stronger magnet, so was just curious on how that works with less travel distance.

[tawdry tree]

Oh I see.

[spiral anvil]

How is anything tighter than franken raptors?

[pastel vigil]

I'm using longer springs which I feel gives me finer control on the actuation distance for things like DKS, so curious to see if the stronger raptor magnets also play into that.

[tawdry tree]

Nothing is.

Unless you use glue as lube.

[pastel vigil]

glue lube meta

[spiral anvil]

Why did you say don't bother than its looser?

[pastel vigil]

He meant using raptor stems with jade housing

which is what I am testing out atm

[spiral anvil]

Oh

I can't see without my glasses christ

I just see blurs so I'm guessing

[tawdry tree]

Tbh, I didn’t notice much of a difference between magnet strengths.

In performance.

[pastel vigil]

I'm not expecting it to change anything. More doing it to satisfy my curiosity. I know some people said the magnets give them issues on raptors but tbh i haven't had any, works just like lekkers lol

[spiral anvil]

Okay I can see again

[pastel vigil]

https://tenor.com/view/i-was-blind-now-i-can-see-marcus-white-lines-i-can-see-it-now-enlightened-gif-18645446

[tawdry tree]

Haven’t had any issues either, could be that some magnets the raptors use are just way out of spec hence a few have problems. 🤷‍♂️

[heady terrace]

it’s pretty nice ya

it’s on sale rn too

[pastel vigil]

I know that's why I am tempted. Fjell too.

Tryna sell my Alumaze first though.

[tawdry tree]

I don’t understand why every case manufacture is so keen on having non removable standoffs in their cases

[tawdry tree]

Gl!

[pastel vigil]

It seems like everyone does it because everyone does it, I'd love a case that's just designed to be gummy o ring mounted lol

[pastel vigil]

ty am gonna need it lmao

[tawdry tree]

Yeah, standoffs are dirt cheap as well and it’d be easier to machine w/o standoffs I think.

[vale swan]

imagine not owning a salvation or a frog mini

[tawdry tree]

silence

[pastel vigil]

WilbaTech Salvation - Silver BNIB (opened to check PCBs)
Comes with extra PCB and plate
$400 CAD, shipping included in Canada

Is this a good deal?

salvation looks cool, frog mini looks kinda ugly ngl

[vale swan]

dont you already have an 80he on order

[pastel vigil]

https://geon.works/products/frog-mini If we are talking about this frog mini

[vale swan]

why are you even bothering with the 60

[pastel vigil]

Never enough KBs

I have 2 60s lol

Probably will end with 2 80s lmao

[vale swan]

show the wooting

[tawdry tree]

dont have one, never did kid

you know this

[vale swan]

i am 48 years of age kid

show your wooting

[tawdry tree]

fact right here

[vale swan]

😭

[tawdry tree]

a fossilized rock formation is what you are

[vale swan]

true

now show the wooting

[pastel vigil]

wats wooting

[vivid jasper]

Thank you very much for the reply. The most interesting thing is that they are not even sold on taobao, only on aliexpress.

[vale swan]

i think i saw them on amazon too

[tawdry tree]

Yeah, that’s the other reason why I think it’s just some left over switches.

[tawdry tree]

The orange 20Us yes, not the white 20Us though.

[vale swan]

the white ones are iirc on the ymdk store

[tawdry tree]

Yes, they’re the only ones that sell them.

[vale swan]

ye

[tawdry tree]

Haven’t seen them anywhere else so far.

[vale swan]

the ymdk amazon store has em

[tawdry tree]

Oh fr?

[vale swan]

did you recover from your staebies incident yet?

[tawdry tree]

tf?

[pastel vigil]

Yeah I remember seeing them on amazon

[tawdry tree]

Didn’t know they had an amazon store too

[vale swan]

uh huh

they do kid

hmm

[tawdry tree]

silenc

[vale swan]

maybe i should sell my alumaze to that loser i told you about and buy the KS20Us @tawdry tree

[tawdry tree]

now u want them huh?

[vale swan]

just for testing

[tawdry tree]

go check if they even have 70 left in stock

[vale swan]

lets see

[tawdry tree]

that’s the reason I sent it to u in the first place kid

[vale swan]

he has 93

[tawdry tree]

oh restocked

[vale swan]

maybe

[tawdry tree]

930

[vale swan]

ye

good he fixed the limit bug lmao

[tawdry tree]

it was hundreds before, not thousands

it’s an ae thing

many listings have it

[vale swan]

shipped they are 49 usd

[tawdry tree]

annoying af

[vale swan]

the official gateron ones as you informed me are 68 eur now

[tawdry tree]

how much were they when I sent em

[vale swan]

thats quite the cut

[vale swan]

it wouldnt allow me to add them so not sure

i think maybe about the same

theres also VAT in this price

thats about 20% here

[tawdry tree]

I got 90 by just ordering 10 and the dummy listings

most stores have that too

[vale swan]

yeah

[tawdry tree]

cop em

kid

[vale swan]

not sure tho if I'd use them

[tawdry tree]

who cares

u have l45, l60 and only uses jades

[vale swan]

well you aint wrong

i dont bave L60 anymore

but ye

i'd also have to buy a new 205g0 jar but thats easily done especially now

[tawdry tree]

order

with them

that store has it

I think****

[vale swan]

i'll see

i cant do much atm

[tawdry tree]

noob

[vale swan]

way too early

i think they'd be fun to try on the PC Plate

that'd make for a nice quiet build

[tawdry tree]

not as quiet as the stem swap tho

actually don’t bother buying em

u just gonna stick with jades anyway

[vale swan]

too lazy for that and the KS20 are good to go

i mean im not sure yet

im not sure I even care tbh

[tawdry tree]

🤣🤣

[vale swan]

i dont think the 60he can go any more than this sound and feel wise

i used the pc plate in the salvation its so soft its insane

shit spacebar on that plate but very soft

[tawdry tree]

i wonder if the hole below the space bar for plate mounts’ wire has any effect on the sound

ik the kbd’s plates have it too

just in general

[vale swan]

im not even sure what you are on about

[tawdry tree]

the wide ass hole

below space

[vale swan]

thats kinna weird

[tawdry tree]

didn’t even notice

[vale swan]

are you sure you aint describing yourself?

[tawdry tree]

no

i am cooking

[latent fern]

how did you build your board?

[vale swan]

rn i have it like this: White Salvation with 2 mounting points, no foam, no deskpad, tape mod 1 layer, carbon fiber plate and hand lubed jades with GMK dracula

[latent fern]

does lubing the jades by hand make a difference?

[pastel vigil]

I like how they sound better lubed, less high pitched, less loud.

I also bag lubed springs

I haven't done the entire KB yet, but on the few I did it was pretty good, might sit down this weekend and do the whole set

[rocky geyser]

Ended up with this. Nice sale event.

You could spend a lot of money on that website though :S

[vale swan]

yes

[vale swan]

why didnt you get the brass weight

it helps a lot even in the plastic case

[vale swan]

i lubed those myself 1 by 1

[pastel vigil]

In an ideal world, I would bag lub with 105, then hand lube top and bottom with 205

[rocky geyser]

I asked earlier with a screenie of options and people said all I really needed was the case.

[pastel vigil]

But fuck that I am lazy lmao

The brass is more of a want than a need, but it's nice to have.

[rocky geyser]

Just weighs the keyboard down more then?

I can see why that might be nice.

[pastel vigil]

Also affects sound

Whether it's better is up to you, but most seem to think so.

[rocky geyser]

I watched a nice video of a guy going through early options for personalizing it, using the same case, and really like the sounds that came out from one set-up. Might be preference, but if it sounds like he recorded, I'll be happy.

[vale swan]

no

it affects the sound by a huge degree

it makes it sound fuller

now you need to stuff that shit with foam

[rocky geyser]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=igy_n3f7VeI&ab_channel=BadSeedTech

I watched this. He covers one type of foam, and also re-using the included foam.

Tape helped one, not so much the other.

[spiral anvil]

Whelp I'm now part of the 90% of people with an alu tofu 60

[pastel vigil]

sell ur tofu, buy my alumaze

[vale swan]

LMAO

[spiral anvil]

Is it purple

[fluid ravine]

lmaooooooooooooo

[pastel vigil]

I can spray paint it for you np

[vale swan]

pc is way different than alu and he used the steel plate with the old old lekkers

[rocky geyser]

True.

[spiral anvil]

Spray paint giving me trauma

[pastel vigil]

It's kind of crazy the acrylic tofu is sold for the same price as the other tofus

[spiral anvil]

I had to bake my case for it to finally dry

[vale swan]

you are still gonna be fine like this if you use polyfill or something but just get the brass weight on aliexpress later down the road

[spiral anvil]

[rocky geyser]

Yeah, I was going to say. I'll get it, do everything, and listen. Will keep an eye on a third party cite for brass.

[vale swan]

yeah

i never owned the plastic redux

should be fun

definitely looks cooler than the boring alu ones

[pastel vigil]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8zBsNi81MHA

I wonder if this has the weight included or not.

[rocky geyser]

Thanks for all the help. People here are nice, even to an acrylic pleb like me.

[vale swan]

watch badseed techs latest video

on the wooting

he did pc/alu redux against alumaze

[vale swan]

acrylic is not for ''plebs''

more expensive or metal doesnt equal better for keyboards

I'd argue the acrylic redux is better than the aluminum one as the bottom out will be less harsh in tray mount and it will be less metallic and way deeper too

[spiral anvil]

Acrylic is better sounding but the color options

[pastel vigil]

Acrylic diffuses the RGB so nice

[rocky geyser]

Yeah, watching his new video now.

[spiral anvil]

I need to represent my team

[vale swan]

idk about better sounding but its for sure different

[pastel vigil]

Since I prefer stock plastic case to metal cases, I think acrylic tofu goes hard

[vale swan]

yeah kbdfans matched a lot of colors to some gmk sets

that green for example would go insane with kaiju

[pastel vigil]

GMK needs to chill my wallet can only take so much

[sweet oak]

[spiral anvil]

Alu isn't really it for me with HE switches

But for the team colors

[vale swan]

the redux in acrylic is insane with rgb imo

[pastel vigil]

My next set

[vale swan]

thats fine

[pastel vigil]

F it, am gonna buy it rn

[spiral anvil]

[pastel vigil]

and then hope down the line I find a buyer for alumaze

lmao

[vale swan]

i have a salvation so idc for it but salvun did tease a PC salvation

[spiral anvil]

Wait real

[pastel vigil]

some guy is selling salvation locally but it's too much

[spiral anvil]

[vale swan]

i found one willing to give me like 55 bucks but I told him I'd wait a lil as thats a bit low

[vale swan]

i paid 370 eur after taxes n shit for mine

[pastel vigil]

Guy is asking for 400 CAD

[vale swan]

lemme see

370 eur to cad is 542 cad

400 is pretty cheap then

[pastel vigil]

hmmm

[vale swan]

what color tho

[pastel vigil]

Also I can sell my alumaze as a built board for like 350 but I think its too low, but i might lose less money doing this and buying a module than selling the case on it's own.

[pastel vigil]

Silver

[vale swan]

hmm

thats 273 euros

the silver one iirc is 330 on salvuns site brand new

[pastel vigil]

WilbaTech Salvation - Silver BNIB (opened to check PCBs)
Comes with extra PCB and plate
$400 CAD, shipping included in Canada

Im gonna ask him what PCB option and plates he got

[vale swan]

The salvation is way way more high pitched than the tofu

just so you know

[pastel vigil]

oh really nvm them

lmao

[vale swan]

yeah its kinda the whole point

[pastel vigil]

I was more interested in it just to try out the leaf mounting system

[vale swan]

well its very fucking soft even with an HE module in it

[pastel vigil]

because I like how gummy 0 rings feel but they are a pain in the ass

[vale swan]

tell you that much

[pastel vigil]

and leaf mounting looks appealing

[vale swan]

this is much much softer than gummy o ring lmao

[pastel vigil]

feel wise

I wanna type in mush

[fluid ravine]

in freaking deed

[vale swan]

ye u seen it lmao

with the carbon plate not as much

but considering this is tehnically still a tray mount

its ridiculous

you still have 2 hotspots tho around the backspace and escape key

gummy o ring if you seat in properly wont have that problem

[pastel vigil]

Am gonna buy that acrylic since it's on sale

[vale swan]

acrylic redux with brass weight+ polyfill and o ring would be nice

[pastel vigil]

am just gonna use stock foam

[vale swan]

i feel like that'd be mad quiet with a pc plate and KS20U

[pastel vigil]

might f with polyfill in the future

[fluid ravine]

tempest!

[fluid ravine]

def should

[pastel vigil]

what polyfill yall use?

[vale swan]

i have a tofu redux and an alumaze just chilling in their boxes

[fluid ravine]

its just polyfill lol

[fluid ravine]

gib

jk

[vale swan]

i mean

if u were close to me

i'd give u the redux

[pastel vigil]

sorry I meant like how do you use it, in my mind it's like cotton balls instead of thin sheets

[fluid ravine]

but yeah polyfill is just polyfill

[vale swan]

''cotton balls''

[fluid ravine]

oh

[vale swan]

peak

[fluid ravine]

hollup

[pastel vigil]

https://canada.michaels.com/en/original-poly-fil-premium-fiber-fill-bag-20oz/10509852.html

[fluid ravine]

Might have a pic

[pastel vigil]

Like this is what am picturing lmao

[fluid ravine]

Yeye

[spiral anvil]

[vale swan]

I only use foam when I have to deal with reasonance or the keyboard is a bit too loud for me

otherwise i dont

[fluid ravine]

I don't got an image but you can see it from the vid

[spiral anvil]

Redux o ring mount pc plate plus bunch of foam is probably the move for me

[vale swan]

i'd use KS20U in that scenario

[fluid ravine]

[spiral anvil]

Already have Franken raptors

[pastel vigil]

doesn't give you an issue with lining up the usb port?

[spiral anvil]

Just waiting on case

[fluid ravine]

Nah

[pastel vigil]

dope

[fluid ravine]

This is what my USB looks like

Gh60 tofu v1 clone btw

But even with the redux it shouldn't be a problem

[spiral anvil]

How does polyfill compare to dense foam?

[pastel vigil]

does polyfill taste good though

[fluid ravine]

dense foam as in like the wooting foam?

or like neoprene or whatever?

uhhh

[spiral anvil]

Neoprene

[fluid ravine]

Oh, well neoprene is much quieter ofc

i dont really know how to explain it tbh

[spiral anvil]

Alright Neoprene is probably the move then

[fluid ravine]

but lets just say

wooting foam has more of a pop into the sound acoustic comparing to polyfill

yeah i really dunno how to explain xd

[vale swan]

good

[pastel vigil]

Just gotta try for yourself with some stuff

[fluid ravine]

yeah

just try :D

[vale swan]

yeah the foam for the wooting plastic case has a really poppy sound to it

[fluid ravine]

I have nothing else to try but spend money

[vale swan]

i mean i dont either but im still gonna buy new keycaps

[fluid ravine]

Whats money

[pastel vigil]

After a while of messing around I cam to the conclusion that I like 1 layer of masking tape with 2 of electrical tape on top of it. Couldn't explain to you why.

[vale swan]

and also new mouse

[fluid ravine]

real lmao

no explaination needed

just do it

[fluid ravine]

whatchu getting

not a mouse nurd but i wanna know anyways

[vale swan]

g pro superlight 2

[spiral anvil]

Beast mini incoming for me

[pastel vigil]

I tried 1/2/3 layers of masking tape, then 1 and 1 and then 1 and 2 and 1 and 3 and 2 and 2 and 1 and 2 was the best combo lmao

[vale swan]

i have huge hands

[rocky geyser]

I picked up the regular BeastX

[spiral anvil]

[rocky geyser]

Waiting on the ULX drop

[fluid ravine]

i like the hump of the gpx alot

[vale swan]

the gpx is a bit small for me but i want the battery life

[fluid ravine]

i have the hyperx pulsefire haste 2 wireless

[vale swan]

the dav3pro is the best shape for me but the creaking and the battery is annoying

[spiral anvil]

I didn't like tape so I didn't bother

[vale swan]

the v1 gpx lasts me about a month on 1 charge and its 2 years old

the deathadder lasts 6-7 days

[spiral anvil]

So real

[fluid ravine]

interesting

[vale swan]

yeah logitch has insane batteries

on my g305 with the triple a battery mod for lighter weight I got about 3 months on each battery

[fluid ravine]

Fr tho, tried out a gpx once, that shit smacked

[spiral anvil]

Its not really batteries so much about power optimization

[fluid ravine]

but idk why but it feels so cheap in a way

idk why

[pastel vigil]

You know whats crazy is after looking at 400 dollar keyboards, it feels like it's nothing to spend 100 on a case lmao

[vale swan]

the gpx2 has an even bigger battery

[fluid ravine]

but i liked it tho

[pastel vigil]

Since am not getting a 400 salvation, acrylic tofu is practically free in my mind rn

[vale swan]

i think my wooting rn is about 750 bucks

[pastel vigil]

Am scared to do the math

[fluid ravine]

mines like 300 hundo (But tech less cus i didnt buy some of the stuff like the board)

[spiral anvil]

Total cost or current cost?

[fluid ravine]

like total cost of the board

but for what i payed

not even up to 100 i think

[spiral anvil]

How I feel about robotic supplies

[vale swan]

the case is 370, the pcb with switches and lube is around 250 and the keycaps around 180

thats more than 750 i think

[spiral anvil]

I did some case swapping

[vale swan]

thats euros too

[fluid ravine]

Like the things i got for free as a gift is the board, case, and stabs

[pastel vigil]

Module + Case + Keycaps + Switches + misc tools for lubing and assembly

Am not gonna math it

[fluid ravine]

oring, keycaps, plate, polyfill, switchpads, and medical tape are the things i paid for

[vale swan]

oh then its above 1000

i had 5 plates 2 wootings 3 cases 3 switches

[sweet oak]

How is that mouse? Their colors are quite cool looking

[pastel vigil]

Oh yeah, I forgot, add in the PC plate too lmao

[fluid ravine]

Above $250 for this

[spiral anvil]

But for the current build its 180 for the og board 20 for pc plate + 40 for raptors + 80 for tofu redux

[fluid ravine]

almost 100 for this

[spiral anvil]

10 for O-ring

[fluid ravine]

so my board tech cosst 300

[spiral anvil]

So like 350 total

Wait no

[vale swan]

oh ye forgot about tx stabs and o rings

[rocky geyser]

It's my style of mouse so it's hard to say. My fingers hold it really well on the counters with the grip. A lot lighter than my Glorious O Mini. But now my Glorious feels like a lead weight, lol.

[pastel vigil]

You know what guys

You can't put a pricetag on happiness

[vale swan]

and the 5 sets of plate mounts i bought for the old one

[pastel vigil]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-math-garbage-trash-i-hate-math-gif-21654450

[vale swan]

yeah its def above 1000 eur

if i count everything

still tho not too bad

[spiral anvil]

My current board costs like 350 bidens

[vale swan]

im bidone

[spiral anvil]

Oh wait the keycaps

500

[vale swan]

have to add these too to that +1000 figure

[spiral anvil]

[vale swan]

yeah its quite a bit

i think its almost a full midrange pc

[pastel vigil]

My keyboard items cost more than my old pc build.

[vale swan]

mine is about 70% of the gpu

@fluid ravine you need new keycaps

dont forget

come to me and i'll give u dracula and the redux

[sweet oak]

Whats the kind of grip you use? I generally do a claw/palm mix

[rocky geyser]

I'm a Knuckle/Pincer hybrid.

[sweet oak]

Ah interesting

[rocky geyser]

Just how I developed :S. My hand tilts slightly right, so some fingers aren't flat on the mouse top.

[sweet oak]

Im really digging that gold variant, I do need to get more time with lighter mice

[spiral anvil]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/999078629302620231/1224910603349397636/Screenshot_20240402_223717.jpg?ex=661f35e5&is=660cc0e5&hm=32a795bc96037b815e17c5591d101a1bf5689e348b4d8867a411f7aed1d53723&

Holy shit

GG damn that must suck

[fluid ravine]

finna run

fk the flights

too broke

time is money

except i dont make money

[sweet oak]

Making money

In my dreams

[rocky geyser]

I ordered a Keychron m4 because they're cheap, boardzy said it was a good entry into fingertip only, and I'm wondering if that style is something I actually gravitate towards but never had the kind of mouse.

I like lighter for sure. I feel the BeastX is 95% of the way to the ULX, so I'm on the fence now.

[sweet oak]

Now i got myself looking at the beastx and ulx then lol

Whichever becomes available again first i guess ill choose

[rocky geyser]

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005006334690125.html

I ordered mine there. However, it was cheaper when I bought it.

I paid $160 CDN in total.

[spiral anvil]

WL is probably better considering qc issues with final

[sweet oak]

Pink and zebra

[spiral anvil]

Friends bought ULX and it creaked like crazy

[rocky geyser]

ULX keeps delaying shipments. They are releasing a Tenz version, which is intriguing. Boardzy also commented that if he was stuck with the BeastX for the rest of his life he wouldn't be complaining either. They aren't far apart.

https://youtu.be/iPmSraxpZ8s?feature=shared

They're dropping that soon too.

[sweet oak]

Oh maxgaming has the gold, bingo

[still wraith]

I got the Lamzu Maya and love it

[valid sun]

Sensationnal pt.2

[steady sandal]

for tape modding do you guys think it makes a difference having the taqpe actually sticking to the pcb or just putting it on some printer paper in the shape of the pcb. could make it easier since you have to make less holes through it for the screws

also was thinking of using a combination of gorilla tape and masking tape

[inner condor]

hi i just got geon raptors for my wooting 60he

but I noticed the spacebar feeling a bit off with the raptors

all my other mods feel normal like with the lekker switches but smoother

i thought it was just my spacebar stabilizer so i tried it completely dry and relubed it to no avail

i tried the spacebar again with the old lekkers which instantly fixed the problem

[cursive wave]

guys, is it buying the wireless version of the monsgeek m1 or not?

[cursive wave]

also which switch is better; gateron milky yellow's or akko v3 cream yellows?

[cunning light]

Is tofu60 1.0 good with 60he+?

[spiral canyon]

60HE+ won't fit in Tofu60 (not sure about 1.0 though), Tofu60 Redux however is made specifically for 60HE(+)

[quiet bay]

Fr? What happened now that it doesnt fit in tofu60 1.0 anymore?

[grizzled path]

it's a great buy

[sweet oak]

Iys a very good looking mouse, i find the cube silly but i kinda love it

[grizzled path]

it's super silly but I like that too, except maybe there could be another usb-c port for the cable, having it on top is kind of weird

[sweet oak]

Yeah it looked weird for the port to be there

[spiral canyon]

I mixed them up, sorry about that

[earnest moat]

Hey guys sorry for the dumb question but does this keycaps fit the wooting 60he ? (full stock with iso layout) It comes with iso keycaps aswell. Also I translated the website to english so there might be a few typing mistakes

Also are they any good? in terms of sound, quality etc. It says that they are pbt and cherry mx but i dont really understand much about keyboards haha

[little glen]

Should work

I cannot say if its any good but it should work

[earnest moat]

the space bar is 6.5u aswell i just wanted to know if its good or not because im worried XD

[pastel vigil]

It’s a random cheap set of keycaps. They’ll fit but you get what you pay for.

[earnest moat]

where can i get good keycaps?

i didnt really go for the price i just went for the aesthetics of the keycaps tbh

[pastel vigil]

https://www.alexotos.com/keyboard-vendor-list/

[ebon falcon]

just a quick question... if i make a order for the wooting60HE+ with the case and keycaps and L45 all those stuff, does it come in assembled togather already or i needa put it toagather myself ???

[crimson crown]

how does polyfill mod affect sound compared to stock foam

[earnest moat]

are these european vendors? or are they shipped from usa

[pastel vigil]

Both .... scroll down and look at the regional vendors

[earnest moat]

okay thank you for helping

[harsh dove]

That depends on if you buy the module or the prebuilt

Module does not come assembled with switches, case, or keycaps.
It comes with pre installed stabilizers and a PC Switch Plate, but that is it.
You will have to install the rest yourself

[harsh dove]

Imo it’s just better cause I don’t like foamy sounding boards

[swift narwhal]

anybody know if wooting 60HE+ boards come factory lubed still or do you need to get the switches separately with the module in order for the switches to be factory lubed

[pastel vigil]

its the same switches, they are lubed

[swift narwhal]

oh hell yea

so i shouldnt need to lube my switches more after i receive the board?

mm i guess thats purely just preference

[ebon falcon]

ok kool thx

[marsh saffron]

Hand lubing is still better. But yeah they are factory lubed

[azure imp]

baller lolololololos

[pastel pendant]

Can some one reccomend me some keycaps?

[stray tiger]

Thats tough to do. Keycaps are a personal choice and any recommendations should start with budget, location, style/profile, or color choices.

[pastel pendant]

yeah my question was a bit too much general, i mean do you know where and on which site buy some good keycaps?

[stray tiger]

Wooting has some options and more coming soon and this is a good list as well https://www.alexotos.com/keyboard-vendor-list/

[pastel pendant]

Ok, ty very much

[rough fractal]

Someone please find me case that has adjustable feet for the 60he 🥹 I've spent 5 hours looking I seem to not have found one

Or of anyone has recommendations please ping me!

[bronze harbor]

what’s the best plate mount stabs for the wooting

[jaunty hare]

Guys any site to buy custom keycap? I want buy one for my ESC key

[polar girder]

Stock stabs?

[polar girder]

Alumaze

[bronze harbor]

theres gotta be smth else

[agile grove]

stock stabs

[bronze harbor]

theres no replacements that are better?

[agile grove]

no

just tune them

[bronze harbor]

i modded them they sound fine

but my spacebar stab broke

i need to replace it

[agile grove]

either go with gateron plate mount (same as stock stabs) or tx ap plate mount

[bronze harbor]

thank you

[teal thistle]

anyone know if the katana space bars are compatible with the wooting 60he?

these ones

[quiet bay]

yes it is compatible
just make sure it's not hella heavy for the switch

[teal thistle]

cause its going to activate the key? i can just set the activation point higher no? its not like i need space bar to respond that fast anyways

[quiet bay]

no so that the switch can actually lift it up

for example ceramic spacebar is pretty heavy

it can sometimes have issues with the weight

but then again l60 can lift it

[teal thistle]

ohhh

i have l60

[quiet bay]

it should be fine

[teal thistle]

well ill give it a try, otherwise itll be decoration

thanks for the help

[pastel vigil]

The Alumaze60 has adjustable feet, 5 degrees or 7.5 degrees.

[rough fractal]

@pastel vigil @polar girder ty ty

[elfin garnet]

what's the best resolution for "ticking" sounds on one side of stab keys?

[pastel vigil]

usually lube

[quiet bay]

not really best but check to see if your wire is balanced

[fluid ravine]

this was my take from last year

[fluid ravine]

If you need, i have configurations threads in the wootstation

independent mods were mount, case foam, and pcb foam

[pastel vigil]

wait so the poly made it less or more bouncy?

[fluid ravine]

more

the alligator eats the better food <

[pastel vigil]

That's what I figured but was double checking in case the sign was a typo

[fluid ravine]

lol

math nurd

[pastel vigil]

we are on the nerdiest channel of a very nerdy server in a nerdy space

it be like that

[fluid ravine]

fax

[latent fern]

i agree completely haha

[pastel vigil]

I spring swapped and lubed all my jades

[latent fern]

oh shit how is it?

i’ll probably do the same eventually

[pastel vigil]

My first proper lube job, I actually think I managed to not over do it.

[latent fern]

what changes did you notice?

[latent fern]

you know so much about keyboards so i assumed you’ve lubed a bunch of sets already

[pastel vigil]

I am a very curious analyst and researcher but i am a lazy being lmao

If I wasn't spring swapping i wouldn't have lubed. With MX I can always get a switch that has the springs i want and is factory lubed but with HE we have to get our hands dirty.

[latent fern]

the effort is always worth it

[pastel vigil]

they feel and sound smoother. My biggest issue with jades is being too loud and clacky, lube helps that for sure.

[latent fern]

lubing is kinda fun sometimes

[fluid ravine]

whats wrong with clacky :D

[latent fern]

i love loud and clacky tbh haha

long poles switches >>>

[pastel vigil]

The 18mm 80g sprigs Im conflicted on. The extra length is nice, gives me more control over entire actuation range, but 70g is a bit much. The spring being longer makes the 70g feel heavier. But I suspect 16mm 70g would have felt fine. I'll have to have a longer typing or gfaming session to see what I really think about the force.

But I am looking at some 62g 22mm springs nexct

Maaaybe even 45gs

See I love the feel of long pole but I dont like how they sound lol.

[latent fern]

it sucks that only aliexpress has the correct springs

[pastel vigil]

idk it just is uncomfortable to me, I like muted and deeper sound

[latent fern]

the wait is so long

[fluid ravine]

ic

what u running in your board rn?

[pastel vigil]

Yeah it's dirt cheap but have to wait forever

[pastel vigil]

switches you mean? On the one I have stock raptors and the other has jades, which I just spring swapped and lubed today, was stock before.

[fluid ravine]

Like mods and everything

[fluid ravine]

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[pastel vigil]

found a buyer for the alumaze so am gonna get acrylics and tofu

[fluid ravine]

I wish i could go back to this

[pastel vigil]

In one I am running freebird60 and alumaze in the other, using the module provided foam for both, both tap modded, 1 layer masking 2 electric tape, PCB fibre washers on all screws, gummy o ring moutns with 40a, bandaid mod stabs with dialectic grease injection, poron foam plate, pc plate and then gmk keycaps for both.

Might be forgeting something but I think that's it.

Unsure if I wanna keep the tape mod, will decide when i get my tofu acrylic

[latent fern]

your tape mod is interesting

masking tape and electric tape

[median spade]

The wide springs make me think they’re a little more resistance than others

As I have some 60g tx 16mm and they don’t feel nearly as “heavy” as my L60 springs

[latent fern]

that’s a good point

[pastel vigil]

Yeah I was saying this in the chat yesterday I think, the springs are kinda confusing. Because on paper they all say one thing but in practice none of the springs feel how you'd expect them too.

[median spade]

As if I could compare my L60 springs they feel like my 62g tx 16mm Mx ones

[pastel vigil]

like even just spring swapping jades with lekkers and raptors, it all doesn't respond how you think it would.

I'm gonna get 45g 22mm springs and see how those feel

Because I think the 62g 22mm would end up feeling similar to the 70g 18mm

I bought a lot of spring samples for MX switches so I kinda know what I like, but there is no such sampler pack for HE springs.

[median spade]

Yeah those aliexpress ones are it

Wooting has been saying soon™️ for their sampler pack for a minute now