🔧│keyboard_modding

[steep parrot]

Oh ok thank you!

[bitter valve]

Long pole or regular?

The stock screw-in is very decent, I wouldn’t change it

[quiet bay]

it does?

[bitter valve]

Doesn’t it?

I heard there were some issues with cracking PCB in the spacebar area

I have friction mount, so I wouldn’t really know

[quiet bay]

I've only ever screwed in my sides and never had any issues, although it wasn't a burger mount

now i use friction mount tho

[bitter valve]

Not super common I would assume, unless you are the type of person to bang on your keyboard.

[quiet bay]

haha it's too expensive to be banging on

[slender olive]

i wanna try some new switches but have no clue wich ones i should buy

[polar girder]

All of them

[gaunt marten]

no

u just hope it fits

[harsh dove]

I’m using tx ap clip ins

And by stab stopper I assume you mean the little plastic shims?

[gaunt marten]

Yup

[harsh dove]

Yeah I used em

Not because my stabs felt loose tho

Just as extra security

[gaunt marten]

The shim is quite loose for my backspace and spacebar

[harsh dove]

Ohhh

Yeah

Couple of mine were too

[gaunt marten]

That's what i was wondeirn

[harsh dove]

Like one

One or two of mine I think are kinda loose

[gaunt marten]

I have like 2-3 loose ones

[harsh dove]

But I use moleskin tape so I just cover them anyway and it holds them in place

[gaunt marten]

2 on spacebar 1 on backspace

So i just tapemod so it doesn't fall out HHAAH

[harsh dove]

Yep exactly

lol

GMK Olivia, Oblotzky and I think Novelkeys had a drop recently but it’s been sold out already , only things left are extras

[harsh dove]

Now that I think about it, those are the same ones loose on mine but I don’t think they’re actually loose in terms of a defect, I think they’re loose because those clips are on the edge of the PCB and so they only go into those half circles instead of the full circle holes like the other stabs since they aren’t on the edge of the PCB if that makes sense

So the half circle doesn’t support the clip in as much

Therefore making the shims feels loose cause it’s not as tight

[gaunt marten]

Yeah i had the same thought, was wondering if anyone else had the same issue

So at that point i was like eh why bother putting them even if its loose

[harsh dove]

Yeah basically

[winged bone]

Hi i need a little help my usb wiggles on my wooting but the screws are down tight and when i took the pcb out i tried wiggling the actual port and it doesnt move

so my keyboard disconnects often does anybody else have this problem?

[gaunt marten]

Tried a different cable?

[winged bone]

yup tried 3 all the same

[gaunt marten]

Try making a #1019755933959733258

[untold wigeon]

at least urs didnt come defected😄

[glacial wind]

With custom case you might have to be extra careful to line up the usb port perfectly and make sure is pushed up against top of the case

Like with my freebird60 I had to move it around a couple times and change the foam amount to get it positioned just right so the usb would fit well

[winged bone]

it is but this wasn’t happening before just randomly started happening a couple days ago

[glacial wind]

PCB could have wiggled backwards a bit

[winged bone]

I tried taking it out and repositioning it and it still happens idk

[glacial wind]

Does it happen if you plug in pcb without the case

Should check to see if so you can rule out if it’s the case or a pcb issue

[winged bone]

I have to go to work in about 5 minutes so no time to check but I will when i get home thank you

[glacial wind]

Sometimes the height of the pcb is important too

So not just how it’s positioned but how much foam is under to prop it up against the hole well

It’s one of the reasons I added a bit of extra foam to mine because it was sinking too much previously

[winged bone]

oh ok

its really a problem for me now but it disconnects then when it reconnects some keys dont work unless i unplug and plug it back up

like mid game itll randomly disconnect

[glacial wind]

My freebird60 had a similar thing although it didn’t disconnect mid game but it was clearly loose connection

I had to put more foam under to prop pcb up more and push pcb towards back a bit more before screwing it to get it positioned just right since the usb hole was a bit shallow

[agile grove]

the reason some keys arent working are prob due to you pressing them during calibration

[untold wigeon]

ty, how much did u pay for the ks-20u switches?

[untold wigeon]

i could get them for these

reckon its worth?

[tawdry tree]

💀 there’s literally included case foam with the module 🤣🤣

[untold wigeon]

😂

[tawdry tree]

That’s old. In the latest firmware all travel distances are dynamic so Jades or any other switch with a shorter travel work just fine. @stray tiger should be updated in #🪛│modding_faq too.

[untold wigeon]

i have the latest

[polar girder]

Moleskin or mole foam?

[tawdry tree]

On paper they do not fit. For some they’re functional without sanding the plate for some they aren’t. If you don’t want to sand the plate you’d be better off sticking with the stock stabilizers.

[tame vessel]

Moleskin because that's basically a padded tape

If Molefoam is similar but thicker that seems cool

[tawdry tree]

If you want them ASAP then sure. If not just wait until they’re more widely available. They should be on Ali soon.

[untold wigeon]

already ordered

lel

i ordered 60pcs

i emailed support tho

[agile grove]

thats not enough

[untold wigeon]

@agile grove

lol

[polar girder]

Yo I don’t think 60pc is enough

👁️👄👁️

[wet hazel]

The 35 dollar Jades from Ali didn't arrive in the usual container

[lime bay]

Well, you paid Ali price, you get Ali packaging 😄

[wet hazel]

Yup you can buy up to 110 units, so makes sense that they use that

[crimson sky]

Not like fancier packaging does anything outside extra waste

[untold wigeon]

fake switches

[static tendon]

@harsh dove or @median spade any of you tried adding some sort of case foam into the salvation case? I can’t see a way it would be possible due to the leaf springs

[harsh dove]

Yeah I used the wooting case foam before

Just line up the two screw holes

[static tendon]

Oh like just directly adding it over the leaf springs? Wouldn’t this make it less bouncy since it’s blocking off the leaf springs?

[polar girder]

Yo I’m overwhelmed by moleskin options

Which one works best for back of PCB? @harsh dove

You said some model makes it easier

[harsh dove]

Little bit but still works

[static tendon]

Interesting. Did it improve the sound or did you end up removing it? I’m pretty satisfied with the sound so far but was just wondering in case I wanted some change

[harsh dove]

https://a.co/d/g8JkieG

[polar girder]

Ty bro

[harsh dove]

Np fam

[harsh dove]

Ended up removing it but it’s not bad

Try it out

[static tendon]

Got it. Are you using any PCB foam?

I’m still using the silicone that came with the module. I really like it so far

[harsh dove]

With the salvation, I wasn’t, no

[static tendon]

Ahh I see, well that’s good to know. Not sure if you know who Brandon Taylor on YouTube is, but I believe he also doesn’t use any foam, says the salvation already sounds good without it

I feel like it may make it quiet a bit louder

Without foam^

[wet hazel]

Why?lol

[harsh dove]

Yeah I like it without it, but I’d use a layer of moleskin tape or regular tape mod to remove ping

[wet hazel]

gateron branding, put two of them to test and they work

also the closed bottom

idk how they can fake a magnetic with closed bottom and same name/colour

[static tendon]

Gotcha. Alright good to know, thanks for the heads up 👍

[untold wigeon]

im joking

[untold wigeon]

how many layers do u use of tape in redux?

[harsh dove]

Just 1 layer of moleskin tape

[untold wigeon]

ah okay

[bleak steeple]

which hall effect is best for thock/ deep thock? (close as you can get it to that sound profile) as im thinking of taking out my L45's and using different HE switches. i dont like the sound of the lekkers

[untold wigeon]

to my ears ks-20u sounds deeper than jades so i decided to get the ks-20u’s but thats just me

dont take my word for it, prolly wait until cam is here

[bleak steeple]

have there been any sound tests on them yet?

[untold wigeon]

he could help you out maybe

[bleak steeple]

ah i see i see

thanks so much for the input

[untold wigeon]

yes cam has on his yt

i can send hold on

[bleak steeple]

ouu okay ill check it out rn!

ah they dont have their youtube linked to profile so yes if you could send it that'd be great!

[untold wigeon]

sent in dm

[bleak steeple]

i dont think i have my dms open

[untold wigeon]

damn

[bleak steeple]

just cause of the off chance ppl who try to send malicious stuff, you cool if i add you?

[untold wigeon]

yea man sure

[bleak steeple]

i semt a friend req so i can get the link to the sound test

you shopuld be able to send the link now

[wet hazel]

for the limited testing i've done with jades, those are more clackier than lekkers

so KS-20U seems to be the most deep/thock

[bleak steeple]

yeah i just heard the sound test for them, they sound phenominal lolol

[polar girder]

Really?

[bleak steeple]

honestly after hearing them, i have to agree

[polar girder]

I have the stem swapped raptors

I’m excited to put them in a modded module

Am still open to a final switch tho

Don’t think I’ll get the jades

[polar girder]

Hearing them where?

I haven’t seen them much

[untold wigeon]

i could send you video link

of cam testing them

[polar girder]

Yeah plz

I missed it

[bleak steeple]

the sound test starts at the 59 minute mark

[stray tiger]

The KS-20U's are deeper than the Jades because they don't have a bottom out sound and the Jades do (the whole point of the design)

[bleak steeple]

that makes sense

are the KS-20U's out of stock?

i cant seem to find em anywhere

[wet hazel]

https://kbdfans.com/products/holy60

here there is an old sound test

from before they sold them

[wet hazel]

https://mechkeys.com/products/gateron-ks-20u?variant=44792748343519

[untold wigeon]

only at mechakeys or taobao

[bleak steeple]

ohhh i see, perfect thanks guys!

[quiet bay]

looks unique but sounded horrible

[wet hazel]

saw the video from alexotos?

[quiet bay]

ye

not surprised considering how hollow it is loll

[wet hazel]

with non HE switches they sound alright, super clacky

[polar girder]

Yeah dual rails sound clean

I think the stem swapped raptors are a little more muted tho

[untold wigeon]

those were stock

[polar girder]

Yeah I know

[untold wigeon]

yeah

[polar girder]

Yeah

[stray tiger]

I'm going to try and stream tomorrow evening and I'll try and do a direct comparison to the ks-20u, jades and stem swapped raptor

[untold wigeon]

whats your youtube?

[stray tiger]

Visit thethockfather.com and scroll to the bottom for links

[untold wigeon]

you stream on twitch or yt?

[stray tiger]

Yeah I'll be dual streaming (which is what I'm testing tomorrow) https://www.twitch.tv/thethockfather

[untold wigeon]

great👍

[bleak steeple]

will def tune into it if i can!

i did drop a follow

[polar girder]

Same

Thanks

[median spade]

I am foams number #1 hater

So I did not use any

[static tendon]

So you’re not rocking any foams or silicone at this time for the salvation?

PCB foam maybe^?

[median spade]

I’m in a tofu again

But no foam at all when in salvation

[static tendon]

Gotcha. Why in the Tofu? Just an extra case maybe

[median spade]

Felt like I was wasting board using 60he in it

Sounded too good with the Mx build I made in it

Even tho I got it for 60he lmao

[static tendon]

Honestly I feel that, it does feel way too over the top for the wooting PCB 😂 it almost feels wrong

[static tendon]

But I do like the case. It’s perfect, I’m really happy I went for it

The white especially is really nice. It’s a super bright white

Weighed it in at 3.5lbs

[boreal fjord]

I have some questions lol

Looking to get a module but get a wood case

Will a gh60 fit

[static tendon]

https://wooting-technologies.notion.site/de7a52e2b5a941258a17e448b0c9d9b0?v=5ec0b31c59db4a51b8a86a1288249e9f might be worth viewing this case compatibility list

But any GH60 case should work with the wooting since it’s a standard tray mount

[boreal fjord]

I was looking at this

I want to order this but paranoid of it not fitting

And thank you

[static tendon]

Got a link to this? If it’s Amazon and you have a return period you should just buy it and try it. If it doesn’t work you can return it as long as it mentions free returns

[boreal fjord]

NPKC GH60 Solid Wooden Case Wrist Rest for 60% Mini Mechanical Gaming Keyboard Compatible Poker2 Pok3r Faceu 60 (Walnut) https://a.co/d/cm9Az8y

[static tendon]

The mounting points all look accurate, GH60 layout. Chances of it fitting should be pretty high. You can also comment on the post to confirm with the community

[boreal fjord]

Will do

Will come back when i get to build and put everything together

[static tendon]

Another way to check is to see if it fits a ducky one 2 mini they have the same tray mount design

[boreal fjord]

Im in luck

[static tendon]

@boreal fjord

There you go

[boreal fjord]

Someone said it does happen

Yup

Thank you sm

[static tendon]

Happy to help

[stray tiger]

Anything GH60 or DZ60 compatible should work

[boreal fjord]

Another question

As far as plates go, does the same thing apply?

As long as its a gh60/dz plate

[quiet bay]

no

[agile grove]

no, the wooting plate has very specific standoffs that are required to make the board work.

[boreal fjord]

https://smkeyboards.com/products/wooting-60he-plate

I was looking at this and it had said it requires a kbdfans standoff kit but im not sure how well it would work

[agile grove]

should work fine, not sure on why you want a custom plate tho

[boreal fjord]

Very good point

Might just skip out on it and save money

[harsh dove]

Custom plate is good if you want a specific material for a particular sound profile.

And the standoff kit is $1.80 on AliExpress

[cyan adder]

wtf when did u order

i ordered on february 15 and still in shipping

exactly from same seller than you

[wet hazel]

bought them 12 Feb and used the free shipping

so 2 weeks, kinda fast for Ali

[fluid ravine]

Pls notify

[quiet bay]

[tame vessel]

For those that tried the KS-20Us, was the factory lubing alright or did it require some hand lubing?

[stray tiger]

It's pretty good from the factory but if you want to be sure it's perfect, you'll have to hand lube.

[tame vessel]

I see I see, is it comparable to the jades in that sense?

[polar girder]

most stock switches, including current HE options, are "lubed enough"

to the point where most would say it's not necessary to hand lube it

but it certainly is a difference.

[pulsar ravine]

Some fun new keys and a custom tape mod.

[glacial wind]

Interesting

these seem to be new patents on top of their closed bottom hall effect switch one

https://www.zfrontier.com/app/flow/qyWVN6OWqglR - original post from gateron's zfrontier account

trying to find any image to accompany the patent but navigating the chinese sites is a mess

[formal comet]

I hate it when competition disrupts my ability to get a product only from one single vendor

[untold wigeon]

the came, waiting for pbtfans WoB set and tofu 60

[shell parrot]

maxgaming will get them soon-ish apparently

[untold wigeon]

Wrip

i just ordered them from mechkeys

but yeah

Not much i can do i think one of my 8 silver screws is too tight or the screw holes damaged

It just wont come undone

[untold wigeon]

Is the most bottom silver screw just not ph1 or what?

This is actually so frustrating

[somber drum]

just superglue ur screwdriver to the screw and leave it overnight and surely it will come out as you turn it

[untold wigeon]

Might have to tbh

[untold wigeon]

Alright the screw is fully fucked stripped now any tips besides superglue?

[rapid ingot]

I wanted to ask if it is possible to set the keyboard profiles per game, or is it one profile for all games etc.?

[shell parrot]

i mean could also be like a month until they get them

[untold wigeon]

yeah, the delivery time from mechkeys is 1-3 weeks

its all good anyways

[idle pier]

not happy with alumaze?

[untold wigeon]

not my cup of tea

[warped inlet]

i bought a wooting 60he+ module and i wonder what are the best stabs to use with that and what type of (plate,pcb, screw in)

[glossy pagoda]

Comes with high quality screw in stabs

[empty sinew]

Yeah the stock stabs are good, only need slight lube/grease job

Otherwise you could go for TX stabs

Stock lekker 45 lube

Very subtle, cylinder mid dry, also springs dry

Guess the hand lubbed one?

[gaunt marten]

maybe ill lube them someday

cba

[devout torrent]

https://twitter.com/GATERONOfficial/status/1762063492478312786

GATERON (@GATERONOfficial) on X

Introducing our latest innovation: Dual-rail Magnetic Orange Keyboard Switch. Get ready to experience it in mid-March! 🚀

Twitter · Feb 26, 2024, 10:34 AM

still a wait but finally some news

[glacial wind]

I guess this is international release since it’s been out in china for awhile already

[devout torrent]

yeah should be for the gateron.com release

[untold wigeon]

i get them by the time of release🫠

1-3 weeks from now

[wet hazel]

Now I see finally the visuals of the dual rail lol

[tawdry ore]

Wonder if anyone knows the measurements of the standoffs for the alumaze

[untold wigeon]

Anyone know what these extra switches are that came along with my jade order

[bitter valve]

These are just extras, and they won’t work with HE board. A lot of keyboard vendors add them for you to try

[agile grove]

probably just some sample switches. they arent hall effect so its best to put them somewhere and forget about them.

[bitter valve]

Unless you are actually asking about the name per switch, then I have no idea lol

[winged bone]

can anybody tell me where to find the serial number

for my wooting?

[gaunt marten]

on the pcb

[winged bone]

yeah im looking at the pcb but i dont see a S/N

[gaunt marten]

wootility

just open wootility

easiest

[winged bone]

ok

[gaunt marten]

its in setting

[untold wigeon]

yep

[normal schooner]

on the bottom of your case

[untold wigeon]

do i need 12 or 16mm ap tx stabs for it to fit the wooting module ootb?

[harsh dove]

1.6mm

Stock stabs are good tho

[untold wigeon]

no mods needed right?

i know

just incase i wanted to change them

[harsh dove]

Well they might not fit properly for you , I’ve had no issues (cause I’m awesome) but other people have had issues

And I’ve tested 3-4 different tx ap stabs with no issues

[untold wigeon]

well how do i become awsome

im already subbed to ur yt what else can i do

[harsh dove]

Just don’t have a skill issue when installing them

[untold wigeon]

put a lil tutorial on yt for me if i decide to get them 😄

nah but forreal which ones do u recomennd?

[harsh dove]

Haha I should/need to do vids like that

Even some shorts

[untold wigeon]

yes

its free views

since wooting is poppin

[harsh dove]

I think the stock stabs are great but I’m enjoying my TX AP Clip Ins

[untold wigeon]

which one of the TX AP

there is like 15000 different ones

[harsh dove]

1.6mm TKL Base Kit

[untold wigeon]

this?

or this

[bleak steeple]

actually do it, not many people are doing in depth tutorials for wooting mods like ‘how tos’ so as a beginner modder its hard/scary to do any other mods like different stabs, and things like that, so tutorials would be hella nice ngl

[stray tiger]

I'll be starting this up soon and creating a poll to collect data on which mods we should start with first

[untold wigeon]

are you going live today to try the jades/raptors and ks-20u?

[stray tiger]

Thats the plan. Its really to test multi-streaming but I'll do that comparison while we are at it

[bleak steeple]

ohh actually perfect where’s the poll going up?

[stray tiger]

It'll be this evening but Ill send out a notification

[untold wigeon]

awsome, damn u are US im guessing?

[bleak steeple]

youtube i’m assuming yes?

[stray tiger]

It will go up in here since it's a modding channel specific request

[stray tiger]

Yes MST

[bleak steeple]

ohhh wait like in the discord

perfect

[untold wigeon]

what time do you plan on starting im EU its already 6:30pm here

or can you leave vod open so i can watch tomorrow?

[stray tiger]

Itll be recorded in youtube so you can watch when you wake up

[untold wigeon]

awsome

[river socket]

what plate should i use?

[stray tiger]

The one you like best (or the one you have)

[river socket]

im not sure

i have a tofu60 redux poly carb plate do you recomend it?

[harsh dove]

Do you want screw in or clip ins

[untold wigeon]

i mean, is the difference huge?

the easiest one to install

[harsh dove]

Just the way they’re installed

They’re both pretty easy

Clip ins might hurt your fingers lol

[untold wigeon]

but you have to think im a noob at this

never done before

so screw ins?

[harsh dove]

Yeah unless you plan to friction mount then clips ins are better, can still friction mount with screw ins but can come with more compatibility issues

[untold wigeon]

way too much for me haha 😄

ill do screw ins if i decide to get them

[hot raven]

i just finish

[untold wigeon]

what keycap set is this

[crimson sky]

aifei wob?

[stray tiger]

or just any WOB with a rama esc

[timid raft]

Is the HE performance of the jade switches as good as the stock Wooting switches? (raw performance, not typing feel)

[stray tiger]

Unknown but should be similar.

[harsh dove]

3D Printed Skull Headphone Holder my buddy made

[stray tiger]

Thats awesome man. Looks just like you except the hair

[timid raft]

so no issues were reported yet, right?

[harsh dove]

Literally

[harsh dove]

Basically the same aside from the travel distance

[timid raft]

Alright, thank you

[halcyon sparrow]

It's got the headphone hair, nice

[stable kindle]

any hot new switches?

[stable kindle]

that made by a 3d resin printer?

[quiet bay]

haha nice reference to a headphone dent 😂

[river socket]

what is better wooting 60he+ module stabs or durock v2 stabs

[harsh dove]

Module stabs imo

[river socket]

should i bag lube my springs?

[harsh dove]

I would

[river socket]

k i have krytox 205g or whatever it is

is it ok to use on stabs?

[shell crown]

Now I need help w all this stuff that comes w Module and Alumaze

What do I do with all these orings

[harsh dove]

It’s okay to use on the stabilizer stem and housing, but it’s not really ideal to use on the wires because of how thin it is compared to grease

Usually just end up with lube all over your PCB once it settles

[river socket]

ok so im not gonna lube my wires

[empty sinew]

grease em 🙂

[harsh dove]

Yeah I’d highly recommend buying a syringe of Dielectic grease and call it a day

Easiest way to lube em

[empty sinew]

absolutely a must

because the factory is pretty weak

at least was in my case

[harsh dove]

Yeah and usually inconsistent

[empty sinew]

yep on mine couple of them were very poorly greased on one sidce

[harsh dove]

Yeah the most common issue is one side is lubed and the other side either isn’t lubed at all or very small amount

[empty sinew]

also I think lubing the stem and housings was very beneficial to eliminate all the rattles and made it sound a lot better

[shell crown]

What are these orings that I get with module/alumaze?

[harsh dove]

They provide a bit of cushion for the PCB on the standoffs

You place them on top of the standoffs

Or on the bottom of your PCB where the screw holes are

[shell crown]

I got transparent and black

Difference?

[empty sinew]

both same

just color

[harsh dove]

Yeah one is foam and one is silicone

[empty sinew]

oh?

[harsh dove]

I believe

Correct me if wrong

[empty sinew]

ok maybe can make a sound diff

[shell crown]

Black is silicone

[empty sinew]

but would be very small

[harsh dove]

Yeah would make a very small difference

[empty sinew]

ah then its same if its black sili

[harsh dove]

So really doesn’t matter which ones you use

[empty sinew]

though one word of advice

be careful when screwing tight on the screws

when using them

it can be overdone

[shell crown]

ik dw

[unborn hound]

Is it for sale on aliexpress?

[empty sinew]

and eat into the pcb

[harsh dove]

Yeah they’ll get destroyed if overtightened

[shell crown]

I used my own orings before

[empty sinew]

ye but

I chipped a bit ofd the color

on the pcb mount points

when trying to tight level my spacebar

so yeah

[harsh dove]

I usually tighten until I hit the first wall of resistance or soft wall

[shell crown]

Same

[harsh dove]

To where it feels tight but you know you could tighten it more

That’s where I stop

[empty sinew]

same, but I wanted to get the spacebar level 😄 So I was going a bit more on one side

[harsh dove]

Fair

[empty sinew]

some PCB's i guess are bit uneven

and then the optional screw standoff on the bottom right of spacebar can cause issues

[river socket]

ok im gonna buy one tomorrow

[harsh dove]

Yeah I tend to only use the top 4 or top 2 screws in my builds

[empty sinew]

I skipped now the bottom space one, and added the middle one, found that one kindof levels the pcb a bit

[river socket]

btw how can i bag lube?

is there an tutorial

[harsh dove]

Plastic ziploc bag

[harsh dove]

Few drops of gpl 105 or SuperLube oil and shake em up

[empty sinew]

here are the results

before after

🙂 I think I did a good job

[harsh dove]

Nice

[shell crown]

U get one witth wooting

[river socket]

so dielectric grease in the bag?

[harsh dove]

No

That would not work lol

[river socket]

its the same brand?

[harsh dove]

You need a thin lube /oil for bag lubing springs

GPL 105 and SuperLube Oil are the only things I really know of for springs

[untold wigeon]

how was the lube on the ks-20u’s?

[harsh dove]

Slightly overlubed

[untold wigeon]

ah

[empty sinew]

also needed to level the stabs a bit lol

[untold wigeon]

i mean is that a good or bad thing

[empty sinew]

CAM how do they compare to the Lekker45? Are they any better typing wise?

[untold wigeon]

he dont know

he doesnt have lekkers

[empty sinew]

oh ok

[river socket]

GPL 205g

can i bag lube with hese

these?

[untold wigeon]

https://youtu.be/WN_-GYLTfpY?si=7MdWIsKchEcnweAf

there u go man

it shows stabs aswell

[river socket]

are they use bag lubing method for springs?

[untold wigeon]

idk watch the vid😂

[wide kraken]

i mean it was answered here already

[lapis stump]

bag lubing makes the most sense for springs, thats what i did with my jades, turned out great

saves you a bunch of time too

[river socket]

ik

[wide kraken]

you need a thin oil for lubing springs, imagine throwing springs into a bag of vaseline, that ain't gonna work with 205 or dielectric grease

[river socket]

damn

i dont have any lube for springs than

and not spending 30€ for lube

[untold wigeon]

you dont have to

use lube everything u can/want and call it a day

[river socket]

k

last time i build an keyboard was 2021 so i dont remember anything

[untold wigeon]

i have never build a keyboard

only wooting

and i managed to break one LED

but i will get a replacement once Toni answers my email

so im stoaked for that, at least i know what im doing this time xd

[river socket]

are the springs pre lubed (l45 switches)?

[harsh dove]

Technically a good thing because factory lube is usually under done

[untold wigeon]

was it good lubed on both the sides?

[harsh dove]

I like them more, yeah

[untold wigeon]

or was it only one side

[harsh dove]

I have all the switches actually

[empty sinew]

is the typing experience decent? because the lekker 45 feels quite bad for typing tbh

[untold wigeon]

oh damn

[empty sinew]

its good for gaming though

[untold wigeon]

i thpught u said on live u didnt have them

my bad

[harsh dove]

I have L60s, L45s, Raptors, Jades, KS20u

No worries

[untold wigeon]

yea but cam prefers jades right?

[harsh dove]

Yessir

Jades all the way

[empty sinew]

well jades for typing are probably the best

but I don't know how good they are for gaming

[untold wigeon]

u said something that the ks-20u sounds like the jades somehow

or something

i cant recall correctly

[empty sinew]

I don't think it does

[harsh dove]

They’re fine for gaming but yeah maybe go with KS20u if the 3.5mm bothers you for gaming

[empty sinew]

ye ordered the ks20u

[harsh dove]

They did to me at first on my live stream but after using them more, they’re more like lekkers

[untold wigeon]

its pretty much like the lekkers

yeah

just more lubed and less wobble with a deeper sound

correct?

[empty sinew]

will see how they lubed them once they arrive

[harsh dove]

Yep

[wide kraken]

from the comparisons i've heard KS-20U sounded a bit lower pitch than jades, is that accurate or nah?

[harsh dove]

Yes

[untold wigeon]

yes

[harsh dove]

Jades are more clack

[empty sinew]

which I prefer 😄

[untold wigeon]

ks are more thock

[wide kraken]

gotcha

[untold wigeon]

u should get jades then tbh

[empty sinew]

will get them also

and compare

[untold wigeon]

ah okay

[wide kraken]

yeah i ended up getting both as well lol

[untold wigeon]

i dont enjoy clack 😦 otherwise id get them too

[empty sinew]

yeah I want to experiment haha

thats why I am doing a second build also

to play around

[wide kraken]

though the mechkeys order hasn't shipped for a while grumble grumble (ik getting back from CNY adds lead time)

[harsh dove]

Welcome to my world

I test almost everything

[empty sinew]

shit :\ I am in the same boat, hopefully it will ship fast

which postage service have you used?

[harsh dove]

Believe mine took about two weeks

[untold wigeon]

yea it takes 1-3 weeks for them to arrive

[empty sinew]

ye with normal postage

I took the express option

[untold wigeon]

states on checkout

[empty sinew]

which is like DHL express

3-6 days

[wide kraken]

i think priority = default?

[untold wigeon]

then you’ll get them 3-7days

[empty sinew]

ye

I hate postage waiting

[untold wigeon]

1-3 weeks

[empty sinew]

is tripping my OCD

so I alwaays take express 😄

[untold wigeon]

xD

[wide kraken]

i probably didn't help by asking customer service about the Kailh / Lofree collab switch compatibility, they asked if i wanted to add them to the order before shipping lol

[harsh dove]

Yeah I usually do too, still took about two weeks

[untold wigeon]

😄

[empty sinew]

dang don't scare me 😄

[harsh dove]

Think it was maybe 9 days I’d have to check again

[untold wigeon]

you just never know with shipping bruh

[empty sinew]

I took DHL Express from Sweden to Slovenia where I am at

today it was sent in sweden

[wide kraken]

post-2020 logistics be like 🎲

[empty sinew]

got sms its coming tomorrow

INSANE

dhl express is just next level

[harsh dove]

Nice

[untold wigeon]

yea i took normal shipping it said 1-2 days

and i get mine on wednesday

[harsh dove]

Yeah I usually have good experience with DHL, some iffy times but usually good

[wide kraken]

i live on the edge of a DHL service area so it's all been bad for me 😦

[river socket]

is lubing hard?

[untold wigeon]

once again, watch the vid i linked

[river socket]

yea but just asking for other peoples opinions

[marsh saffron]

It's not hard just time consuming

[untold wigeon]

someone that has lubed before is gonna say its well easy, and a person that has never lubed might say something different

[harsh dove]

Fairly easy just time consuming and tedious

[wide kraken]

put on some podcast and set aside a couple hours

[empty sinew]

yeah my local postage takes like 2 days most of the time, between cities of like 10-20km

[marsh saffron]

I lubed a keyboard for my first time with my 60he, was very easy but took me like 6 hours lol

[empty sinew]

now I can't comprehend how its going to come from sweden so fast 😄

[untold wigeon]

we move fast here

[harsh dove]

Yeah same just about, sometimes DHL will upcharge me for where I live though because they consider me a remote location, so they’ll charge an extra $30 sometimes , it’s very random when they choose too

Sometimes they don’t sometimes they do

[empty sinew]

its the DHL express thing for sure, I had same thing from Netherlands for another thing, it just came the next day, I was like so baffled.

[empty sinew]

oh yeah, I am kindof afraid that might happen for my ks20-u order from China

don't know what to expect in terms of tax\remote

[wide kraken]

@river socket also if it's your first time make sure to test your first few switches to check for feel, before you go whole hog. easy to fall into overlubing mindset at first because you need less than you think

[river socket]

thx for the info

[empty sinew]

if your doing the lekkers, don't be afraid, they are quite underlubed and doing a tiny bit too much won't be so bad

just take small pick with the brush, and do the stems,.. optionally cylinders in mid and housings a tiny bitr, then the tip of the springs

and your done

[wide kraken]

tries to forget my first pasta-sounding lube jobs

[shell crown]

I need to make some cool looking color profiles for my wooting

[strange quarry]

what size stabs does the two HE need? i'm really just looking to swap out the spacebar and i'm looking at these https://a.co/d/9qWLUY1

[wide kraken]

spacebar is 6.25u

[untold wigeon]

im wondering if spacebar foam is worth

has anyone tried it?

[shell crown]

Its okay

[strange quarry]

well i ordered them, hopefully this fixes the problem

[untold wigeon]

does it make it sound less hollow?

[shell crown]

Never tried on this keyboard

But usually yes

[agile grove]

why do you want to swap the spacebar stab?

[untold wigeon]

nice

[harsh dove]

Get some museum putty

It’s like $4 where I’m at

And stuff it in your spacebar

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/984799440072220692/1211234511916896296/IMG_9609.mov?ex=65ed750b&is=65db000b&hm=767551e3fbf99e6d945a7a0a485fc9f55e9847588f644d3d8db235144e53c5a3&

That’s how I got my spacebar to sound like this

[strange quarry]

it started rattling/ticking in certain spots, i rebalanced and relubed the wire but it still does it

[agile grove]

odd

[strange quarry]

yeah it didn't do it for the first few days, it just started happening

[wild sphinx]

Is this ok? I have to push it down little to plug it in.

[untold wigeon]

this?

[harsh dove]

Yeah that should work tbh

[wide kraken]

is the PCB screwed in yet? it should align once fully seated

[wild sphinx]

Got it

[harsh dove]

It’s fine but if it bothers you try removing case foam

Are you doing gummy o ring mount or screwing it in?

If screwing it in then like xomm said, should align once tightened

[wild sphinx]

Screwing it in

[untold wigeon]

nice

[wild sphinx]

What is the order to put these in because I got two foams and stuff?

[wide kraken]

need to remove the plastic washer from the left side accent
that's where the screw between caps/shift goes

[untold wigeon]

only need 1

[wild sphinx]

I’ll do that and get back with u both

[harsh dove]

Remove this screw

Put it back once PCB is inserted

[agile grove]

you need to install one of those golden screws in the hole in the case by the spacebar

[wide kraken]

left bag is standoffs for middle, depending on if you want stiffer middle
right bag is for the fabric strap
bottom is foam for the mount points

optional/preference

(although yeah, the spacebar standoff is recommended)

[harsh dove]

Yeah Spacebar standoff is still optional/personal preference

I prefer not to use it but most do

[wide kraken]

iirc some people had their PC plates crack without it?

[agile grove]

60he just straight up doesn’t use the middle screw location

[wild sphinx]

Done.

[harsh dove]

Not that I’ve seen or heard and even so, would require an unnecessary amount of force

More force than you should be applying to any keyboard that’s forsure

[wild sphinx]

This next?

[harsh dove]

Yessir

Or

You can put those foam or silicone rings on the standoffs

For extra cushion for the PCB

[wild sphinx]

What benefits would that provide?

[harsh dove]

Can alter the sound profile a bit to reduce dead spots near the screws

[wild sphinx]

So less annoying?

[harsh dove]

Essentially

More consistent sound

[wild sphinx]

So put these in the little holes?

[harsh dove]

Yep on top of the standoffs

[wild sphinx]

All of them no matter if they’re pushed up or down?

[harsh dove]

What do you mean by pushed up or down?

And yes, in the spots you plan to screw down

[untold wigeon]

left one yes

middle one if u gonna use a standoff there

[wide kraken]

can just push the case foam down to seat it

[wild sphinx]

I guess I can use one for the middle

[untold wigeon]

i think he use both foams

[wide kraken]

o

[untold wigeon]

screw the standoff thats in the little bag that came with the case in the middle one and then put the oring on it

[wild sphinx]

I used just one

[untold wigeon]

oh

push it down

[untold wigeon]

nvm looks good

[wide kraken]

(also don't use excessive force on the standoffs - have seen some people here shear them by hand somehow lol)

[cyan adder]

mods list?

[wild sphinx]

Done ✅

[untold wigeon]

install the standoff om the middle ome

and the one thats where the spacebar is

before u put the oring on them

[wild sphinx]

I thought I did

[harsh dove]

Hold on

[wild sphinx]

Now do I put this on?

[cyan adder]

im close to your sounding on my redux thats why i ask, just waiting on my jades to be delivered

i guess gummy mount, hand lubed jades, stock foam from wooting? pc plate and no plate foam?

[wild sphinx]

When do I add these three?

[wide kraken]

they're options, rather than putting them all in

two different plates and plate foams

[wild sphinx]

Oh which is best feeling do you think and less annoying?

[wide kraken]

it's pretty preference based, there's some brief descriptions in the quickstart: https://wooting.io/wooting-60he-module-quickstart#pulling-keycaps

[wild sphinx]

Thank you

Oh so do I just place the switches on now?

[normal schooner]

yess

looks great wow

[untold wigeon]

Guys will adding switch pads alter performance of my wooting 60 he?

Read somewhere someone saying that it might on yt

Forgot where tho

Also do u guys think adding switch pads makes a noticeable difference? From anyone who has done it?

[wild sphinx]

I actually want to try altering the layering

[untold wigeon]

thats the 2 standoffs i told u to add

which u didnt

[upper tusk]

Is there any new switches better than jades?

[wild sphinx]

The black one

[wild sphinx]

How do you do that?

[wild sphinx]

???

Are you supposed to screw it in or something?

[wide kraken]

we believe in you

[empty sinew]

Hand tighten it slowly

[wild sphinx]

Thank you. I’m just trying to not break anything

What are these used for?

Do I still need this as it makes the pc plate unleveled?

Sorry for all the questions

I also forgot this thing

[harsh dove]

Tofu x Jades , CF Plate x Gummy Mount x Tofu case foam x plate foam & switch foam that comes with CF Plate x TX AP Clip Ins , I think that’s it

[wild sphinx]

So I don’t need that stuff is what you’re saying.

[harsh dove]

@cyan adder

[cyan adder]

tyvm

[cyan adder]

hand lubed jades?

what part did u lube

[bleak steeple]

saw this tweet in the 60HE chat

[cyan adder]

top housing, srpings and bottom?

[bleak steeple]

arent these just the ks-20u's?

[wild sphinx]

Y is is sooo hard to put in switches?

[harsh dove]

Every part

[bleak steeple]

yo cam

https://x.com/GATERONOfficial/status/1762063492478312786?s=20 these are the ks-20u's right? (im assuming yes cuz they look the same)

GATERON (@GATERONOfficial) on X

Introducing our latest innovation: Dual-rail Magnetic Orange Keyboard Switch. Get ready to experience it in mid-March! 🚀

Twitter · Feb 26, 2024, 10:34 AM

[gaunt marten]

Yes

[bleak steeple]

hmm

interesting

[gaunt marten]

Wooting things

They're harder to put compared to mech imo

[bleak steeple]

wait so then how are they being sold by mech keys? thats the only bit that really confuses me a bit

[gaunt marten]

Mechkeys import em from china

It has been selling in china for about 2-3 months

This is global launch

[bleak steeple]

ohhh so they were just released in china early

that makes sense

[gaunt marten]

Yup

[bleak steeple]

thanks a lot for the info

[gaunt marten]

Gateron Officially sells 70 switches of KS20u for 350 RMB on taobao

About 50$~

[bleak steeple]

sorry im still all new to the way keyboard modding and the way stuff works

i see

imma do some digging just in case cuz im unsure, i might wait for gateron to globally release em in the case that they have warehouses in the US

after a bit of research, i dont think they do so it wouldnt be any different from wait times from mech keys or taobao

[polar girder]

Yeah I wouldn’t worry too much about that

[gaunt marten]

Retailers would probably have em instock

But still ordering from mechkeys prob will take same amount of timr

[polar girder]

Cost of shipping probably only real factor depending on vendor

[bleak steeple]

thats also true

hmm, im thinking waiting for gateron would be more ideal as the vendors probably mark up price a bit so id be better off waiting to get a better deal on them

[wide kraken]

probably save 20ish cents a switch if you wait for official store to post, so if you're not in a hurry probably worth

[wispy thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/copium-cat-gif-27161395

Desperately telling myself it looks just like how I thought it would in my head.

[gaunt marten]

HAHHAA

[bleak steeple]

that 20 cents a switch goes a long way. i mean in this economy (US economy) especially with having hobbies, bills etc its nice to be able to save some money as im sure anyone would like to save because hey, who doesnt yaknow?

[wispy thistle]

Bro I swear the colors on the keycaps were more saturated in the pictures

[gaunt marten]

Time for new keycaps ☠️

[wispy thistle]

On the bright I really the mocha anodized tofu redux

[wide kraken]

oh ye, saying it's worth the wait if not urgent. $1 a switch from mechkeys is hefty

[bleak steeple]

ofc! i was agreeing with ya, sorry if that came off condecending or rude in any way. but yeah i think im gonna wait as im not in a hurry really

[wispy thistle]

If anyone got any keycap recommendations if you can see what I was trying to go for then I’m all ears preferably pbt

Honestly it’s kinda growing on me in different lighting lol

[polar girder]

I like it

[harsh dove]

Never trust pictures/renders

[agile grove]

because you dont have a plate pad

[wispy thistle]

What do I do then?

[harsh dove]

Look for reviews/people who already own them

And see their pictures

I.E.

More bluish grey in person

[upper tusk]

Is there any new switches better than jades?

[mild geyser]

Wondering if plate mount stabs work with oring? my current tx ap clip in stabs are extremely tight with the pc plate and kbd fans aftermarket plates creating very mushy/non returning stabs. Issue dissapears with screw ins, but ideally id like to oring mount the board

[agile grove]

graveshift's new small o-ring works with screw in stabs

[harsh dove]

^^

[mild geyser]

thats great to hear, is there a duro range i need to be within?

[harsh dove]

Ideally 30-50

But harder works just harder to remove

[agile grove]

40a is the sweet spot tbh

but whatever suits your case is probably fine

[harsh dove]

I use 40a on my boards

[mild geyser]

im a big fan of 60-70, that sucks but expected

hasnt graveshift always had s size orings or is it a new sub product?

[agile grove]

they were different iirc

[agile grove]

you can still use those, but the harder the o-ring is the harder to remove the board

[mild geyser]

sweet, thanks guys

also any links to small orings for stabs? gunna pull the trigger on some jades and dont want to buy longpole stabs

[untold wigeon]

guys what exactly do o rings do to the sound of the keyboard?

its a popular mod but ive alwayhs wondered

Like what does gummy o ring actually do

[agile grove]

removes a lot of ping and overall deepens the sound

[harsh dove]

Provides a different sound profile, more consistent sound, remove metal case ping, and removes dead spots near screws (because it doesn’t require screws)

Also a different typing feel

Gives a tiny bit of bounce/flex compared to the stiffness of being screwed in

[mild geyser]

best typing feel comes from oring mount IMO

[untold wigeon]

Oh shit didnt know that u didnt need to screw it in

[mild geyser]

sound is mostly switch and plate

[untold wigeon]

the reason why i havent purchased. gummy o ring for my wooting kb is because the only compatible ones ive heard of so far are located very far away from me and im paying like 60 bucks or over for a gummy o ring

Im not exactly sure how to tell if one is fully compatible or not

[potent wedge]

Jade magnetic
What plate do we use?

[untold wigeon]

stock wooting come with steell plate

u can swap to pc plate and other plates but thats preference

[potent wedge]

plate good for jade magetic?

Jade magnetic sound clack or thock ?

[harsh dove]

Prebuilt* Wooting60HE comes with Steel Plate

Wooting 60HE+ Module comes with PC Plate included

[harsh dove]

Jades have a clacky sound inherently

Plates are personal preference but my favorites are PC, POM, and Alu

I’m currently using a carbon fiber plate with my Jades though

[potent wedge]

What about fr4 plate?

[harsh dove]

Gross, worst plate material

(Slightly joking)

But from mine and shared experiences among others , most don’t like FR4

[potent wedge]

I’m currently using a PC switch plate

[harsh dove]

Yeah those are great

[potent wedge]

PC switch plate good !!!

👍🏻

[fluid ravine]

Sup CAM

[wild sphinx]

Thank you for all your help today everyone!!!

[harsh dove]

Sup son

[fluid ravine]

Wasssssuppppp
Any news? although there isnt much to ask

[fluid ravine]

You still using the tofu?

[mental salmon]

Did father stream today?

[fluid ravine]

OH SHOOT I FORGOR

wait idk

[honest flume]

On the tofu 60 redux case on the usb port we want the slider to be on “w” right?

[fluid ravine]

I dont see anything on his schedule @mental salmon

[fluid ravine]

Yeah W for Wooting im pretty sure

D is for DZ60

[mental salmon]

Thanks, he mentioned something earlier today, but did not see any announcement

[harsh dove]

Just waiting on custom plates and new cable

Keeping an eye on new products

and yes still using Tofu

actually a nice case

Definitely sharp edges tho

I like the sound I've created with it so far

Will experiment more with it tho

[fluid ravine]

noice noice

[fluid ravine]

what plate?

[harsh dove]

Carbon

[fluid ravine]

oh i thought u had one

[harsh dove]

Nah got it with the Tofu

I like it tbh

[fluid ravine]

wait then why another one?

for the other wooting?

[harsh dove]

The other 3 that are coming are diff materials

or what do you mean

[fluid ravine]

Oh I asked what plates are you waiting on

[harsh dove]

Oh

my b

[fluid ravine]

then you said carbon

all g

[harsh dove]

Black POM, Alu and Black FR4 (the worst)

[fluid ravine]

oo Alu

clack clack

[harsh dove]

Yeah excited for that one

[fluid ravine]

with jades? yuhhhh'

that shi finna hit smack

[harsh dove]

facts

[fluid ravine]

from smkeyboard?

[harsh dove]

Yeah

HypeKeyboards is also good

but idk what materials they have on offer

[fluid ravine]

that sounds new

[harsh dove]

Not sure when they established tbh

Both US companies iirc

[fluid ravine]

yeah Hype is in the US

@harsh dove

[harsh dove]

Yeah I think they specialize in plastic plates iirc

Whereass SMKeyboards does the CNC

I swore Hype did CNC too tho

[fluid ravine]

Nylon..

interesante

[harsh dove]

Yeah that's probably nice actually

Might get that later on

[fluid ravine]

kk

[harsh dove]

I'd skip on the rest of those materials lol

PP could be interesting maybe

[fluid ravine]

never heard of pp

nvm i take it back

wtf is UMHWPE 😭

[harsh dove]

Ultra high molecular weight polyethylene

[median spade]

He does

Also he’s in Toronto

[harsh dove]

Ah ok

[stray tiger]

I ordered a plate last week for my Sirius60 HE and it already shipped. Says itll be here on the 29th

Going live to do some switch testing, join me if you want - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dr1Ip9AxSTI or https://www.twitch.tv/thethockfather

[polar girder]

Nice dude

Yeah sounds and looks great

Solid quality

[gaunt marten]

PP best

[fluid ravine]

Ah dang sorry pops, couldnt make it to the stream had to study for a state test, anyways gonna watch the yt live in a bit :D

[stray tiger]

When its done processiing Ill clip it to just the sound test

[fluid ravine]

Ah thanks

[boreal fjord]

hello

does anyone know if the tofu 60 redux plate work with the wooting
particularly screw in stabs
instead of plate mounted stab

https://kbdfans.com/products/tofu60-redux-accessories?variant=41491565904011

[harsh dove]

Yes they work, little tight but stabs work with no issues

I'm using the carbon fiber plate with TX AP Clip Ins but I also tested screw ins

[boreal fjord]

fuck yea

[boreal fjord]

does it matter if its plate a or plate b?

[harsh dove]

Those are not compatible, my bad

You have to get their wooting plates

https://kbdfans.com/products/compatible-accessories-for-wooting-60he?

[devout torrent]

Is Sirius 60 HE a board or like you’re putting wooting in it?

[boreal fjord]

looking for a brass plate

[harsh dove]

Check HypeKeyboards or SMKeyboards

[quiet bay]

He's putting the wooting in it

[devout torrent]

Ty

[stray tiger]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=59byy865KnM - 5 switch sound test (KS-20U Peaches, KS-20T Jades, KS-20 Lekkers, Raptors and Raptors with Lekker stems) on a 60HE (steel plate) in an aluminum case.

[fluid ravine]

its on private

[stray tiger]

Try now

[fluid ravine]

yep it works!

[fluid ravine]

Pretty good sound test comparison tbh
Was there any mods on this board? If not then its really good as we could hear the "pure sound" of the switch then

[stray tiger]

The only mod was friction mount. Its steel plate original 60HE

[fluid ravine]

Well big W on the soundtests then 👍 would recommend sharing this to someone who wants to know the comparison between the four/five switches

[stray tiger]

I havent listened to it yet to see how the sound is on the 2 different mics but it was a quick multistream test first and foremost so hopefully it helps

[stray tiger]

its pinned then

[vague socket]

hi im thinking abt getting fr4 plate from kbdfans is it good

[fluid ravine]

Users have reported that they had problems with the FR4 plate relating to their stabs
I don't know much about their sound as I don't pay attention to it but yeah ^^^

[vague socket]

is it with plate mounted stabs or the screw ins

[harsh dove]

I haven't tried their FR4 plate but like Thockson said, some people have reported issues.
I have their Carbon Fiber plate and am using TX AP Clips Ins with no issues.

[verbal knoll]

welp. I got my 90a o-rings finally

and they actually fit the keyboard

anyone want to guess what the problem is?

I bought 1.5mm to reduce travel distance on keypress

from 3.5mm to 2.0

[pastel vigil]

I have a few (possibly very noob) questions. Do Gateron Magnetic Jade work with the rapid trigger features or does it have different accuation points? Also, is the Module included in the 60he+ the same as what you buy standalone or are there any notable features? I ordered one prebuilt to try stock but I do plan on basically swapping the switches, case and keycaps to learn more about keyboards.

[vague socket]

Yes the switches work with rapid trigger but bottom out at 3.5mm instead of the standard 4mm

The module is the same as the wooting 60he+ but it just comes with screw ins and an extra silicone dampener

[pastel vigil]

Does that mean the press doesn't go as deep?

as in travelling less if fully pressed

[vague socket]

Yes that’s right

[pastel vigil]

Actually that might be preferrable, so that's good to know!

Does it still register presses at 0.1?

[vague socket]

I’m not too sure

But i think its 0.2

Yeah 0.2

[pastel vigil]

Thanks for the info! 🙂

[grim steppe]

No, 0.2mm is standard error of total travel distance. It is not about actuation range

[wet hazel]

They feel more or less as sensitive as Lekkers with 0.1 mm RT

The main difference is the 3.5 travel distance instead of 4.0 mm

For me it's noticeable

Also, almost no wooble on the switch, so that's good too

[honest flume]

what tape do i get for the tape mod for the 60he+?

[somber drum]

guys what way is the case foam meant to be placed

i placed it on the smooth side facing up and it made the keyboard sound and feel less nicer compared to the rough side up

or maybe im tripping

[bleak steeple]

painters tape

[pastel vigil]

in a good way?

[wet hazel]

Like everything, it's preference, you bottom out the switch faster, but also feels like it looses range of motion

I just need to get used to it

And it'll normal

[paper bloom]

#🪛│modding_faq

[empty sinew]

Yeah afaik the actuation is controlled by the PCB itself and not the switch?

[river socket]

is there anyway that you can get the springs not attached to eachother

cuz some of the springs are attached to eachother

[grim steppe]

Yes. Switch just contains magnet

[austere creek]

well sort of both

a different magnet strength can result in the software actuation not matching the real actuation

this has to do with how the magnet strength gets converted into the press depth

[grim steppe]

It depends on PCB software and hardware

[austere creek]

they cant change the magnet strength

[grim steppe]

They can calibrate

[austere creek]

no

theres a limit

magnetic jades for example easily max out the sensors we use

that is way before fully pressed

there is also the reverse case of too little magnetic flux being detected by the he sensor

[empty sinew]

how do we know which magnets are fine?

Is there any data one could check

[grim steppe]

As I said It depends on PCB hardware and software 🙂

[austere creek]

no its a combination of software and he sensor+magnet

[empty sinew]

ah I see, for example here is the data for the new KS-20U

guessing the magnetic flux info

[austere creek]

yes

[empty sinew]

but what is the optimal for the 60he+ pcb?

or rather what is the data for lekker's

[austere creek]

around those values you just posted

[empty sinew]

ok sounds good

[austere creek]

there is a give we can calibrate before it fully saturates the sensor or cant be read well

[empty sinew]

nice good info

[grim steppe]

HE sensor is not hardware?🤔

[austere creek]

it is but the sensor itself cant do anything. sensor and switch magnet are tightly coupled as a system

both together are the switch

[grim steppe]

No one HE sensor can work with different magnets?