🔧│keyboard_modding

[quasi topaz]

but yeah none of my business

have fun with your board

[fervent galleon]

maybe he got enough money

[normal schooner]

if mansen tries to help someone you dont need to make a comment about that doesnt contribute to solve the problem

[quasi topaz]

surely

[fervent galleon]

yeah he was to late thats true but your comment is not that nice yk

[quasi topaz]

sori

ilu arden

mb

[fervent galleon]

sry arden for this conv

[untold wigeon]

anyways if i were to order a replacement pcb could that be at anytime or does it need to be in a specific time frame?

[bronze grove]

No timeframe.

[untold wigeon]

wonderful, and i do need to send the current one i have back also im guessing?

[bronze grove]

Shoot us an email at social@wooting. and we'll take it from there.

[untold wigeon]

sure can, anything specific i should say in the mail? ”hey, i just got the module today, i messed up installing the switch on the enter key which broke the LED”

something like that?

[bronze grove]

Yerp

[untold wigeon]

gotcha

[fervent galleon]

wait just that i can understand when i accidentally break smth on my board i can send it back?

cuz i want to mod it even more

[untold wigeon]

mail is sent Mansen

[untold wigeon]

i dont think so

i just did the tape mod and it sounds amazing

ah and the orings on the standoffs

[fervent galleon]

same

I bought new switches, 30g, the Gateron KS20, but I'm afraid of making more. I only made keycap tape and switches

[untold wigeon]

yeah i really love the keyboard so far

just my own fault really for messing up the LED

[untold wigeon]

also Mansen i said in the ticket that i was sent by you to write a ticket incase it was you that was gonna answer it

[hot raven]

I'm so happy my tofu 60 redux and my raptor he and my plate cf come soon

[gleaming crane]

How’s gpl 205g0 from divinikey? Should I settle with that as it’s cheaper or should I just get Krytox

[soft epoch]

Anyone tried the Gateron Magnetic Jade Linear Switch?
Any thoughts on them?

[wet hazel]

More than 700 sold, a lot of people use them. Similar to L45 in weight, better sounding switches than Lekkers

Less travel at 3.5 vs 4.00 mm

[soft epoch]

I did not catch the part with less travel distance 😮
Wonder if that will be a problem for DKS mapped keys? 🤔
Thinking if having action 2 when key is going back up again

[wet hazel]

If I remember correctly DKS works until 3.6 mm? Maybe someone who has Jades can comment about those and that function

I'm waiting for them to arrive in early march to test them

I don't use DKS for now, so idk

[soft epoch]

Just put in an order through MaxGaming, so no idea when they will arrive. Guess I will find out

Maybe Wooting can change how DKS works if not let us change the max depth the key can be pressed 🤔

[median spade]

Made this for those asking if they should get brass weight for tofu60 redux (yes is the answer)

[hot raven]

don't worry my tofu 60 redux come soon with brass and CF plate and raptor he

[shrewd dragon]

is that all? just the sound?

are most mods u can do on a keyboard about sound?

[wet hazel]

What do you want in a HE switch?

I mean all of them are linear

The feeling would be the same, and for the actuation force/weight to press it depends on the spring

Jades are around 50g, meanwhile L45 and L60 are 45/60g

[shrewd dragon]

so its an mod that wont upgrade anything to functionality right?

its a press felling and sound based mod

[toxic sapphire]

right

[wet hazel]

If you are talking about performance and such, nothing changes

[shrewd dragon]

ah thx

[harsh dove]

Useless

[thick mural]

run a steel plate as a case

why sound dampen when there's no sound to dampen

[polar girder]

Wow ok thank you I’m about to order brass weight off Ali express rn. Ty ty

[median spade]

Unironically it ends up going the other way

I've used full brass and full steel cases

[stray tiger]

Save some money and buy these https://www.amazon.com/CKAuto-Adhesive-Weights-EasyPeel-Motorcycles/dp/B085LCFFZS/ref=sr_1_4

itll look like this but weigh more and be 1/4 of the price

[median spade]

always wondered how this t urned out

thought about it but never owned a tofu v1

I have some tire weights in my drawer right now actually lmao

[wet hazel]

A frog themed deskpad but no frog mini case with Wooting?

[polar girder]

How do they sound??

That’s all I care about really lol

[stray tiger]

To be fair Ive never purchased a Redux so not sure how many you need but 48 would still be plenty

[median spade]

wonder if the cavitiy is the same depth too

[stray tiger]

I dont have a way to compare

[stray tiger]

Appears to be but the weights would still be below the standoffs even if they werent the same depth.

[polar girder]

Sound test comparison brass vs tire weight? 😅

[harsh dove]

Ima be that guy and say it sounds the same and your finger is hitting it differently

[median spade]

banned

[median spade]

ill think about it

If anything you can buy the weights on amazon for $6 and then return if you dont like

[stray tiger]

The brass looks better if you like to take your PCB out and type on it while staring at your case

[polar girder]

Nightly occurrence

🫠

[median spade]

Oh phew thought I was the only one

[shell crown]

Or if you have see through pcb and see through keycaps and see through switches and see through plate

[kind yew]

Jade is too light

Than L60

???:than change the spring💀

[median spade]

Tis what I did

My jades have 60g spring

Form L60

[harsh dove]

Dunno if you saw but I’m getting custom plates made for my wooting

CF, Alu, Black POM, and Black FR4

[median spade]

Ohhh what material

Nice

[harsh dove]

I thought about brass too

[median spade]

I have black pom too

[harsh dove]

Didn’t pull the trigger on it

[median spade]

Well stop thinking

[harsh dove]

Lmao

[median spade]

Brass is never it

It’s only good with some tactiles

[harsh dove]

Well if I get brass I’ll have 7 diff plate material compatible with my wooting

And then only other material I can think of is IMA which is Impacted Acrylic

[harsh dove]

Right yeah

[stray tiger]

You using sendcutsend?

[harsh dove]

Nah SMKeyboards

[median spade]

I recommend hypekeyboards

[harsh dove]

I saw them too

[median spade]

My fave personally

[harsh dove]

Saw a couple good reviews of the plates from SM so said fk it

[median spade]

Tbyere also good

[harsh dove]

It’s really just a modified plate file

So should be fine

[median spade]

Indeed

Just don’t waste money on brass trust

Not worth the insane cost and you will guarantee dislike it

[lapis stump]

I got brass for my acrylic. Didn't really notice a difference besides weight lol. I have case foam so it probably mutes some of the effects

[harsh dove]

Got it, thanks

[harsh dove]

Lemme double check how much it was

Oh they also have Copper and Clear PETG but I don’t care for either of those lol

Brass plate is $55

[shell crown]

That's so expensive

[harsh dove]

lol yeah I spent about $150 on plates

I’ll have 6 materials in total I think

[agile grove]

thats almost as much as the keyboard cost

[harsh dove]

Technically it is

[agile grove]

I wish I had disposable income

[harsh dove]

In terms of standalone module

[lapis stump]

Oh you're talking about plates lol nvm

[harsh dove]

Yeah the alu plate was most expensive

Rest were like $20-30

Similar price to the PC Plate

[median spade]

Alu has shot up in price so much it’s dumb

[harsh dove]

Fr

[median spade]

Also Idk how it's possible but the tofu 60 with weight is loss hollow than fjell

[polar girder]

Fk bro

Thockdaddy sidetracked me.

Gotta order the brass!

Ordered

Thanks again. I didn’t realize I was missing out.

[tawdry tree]

Ask Woot for the LED part number and see if you can order the LED from somewhere. Then solder it yourself or bring it to a repairshop. The LED might set you back $5-$10 and the repair cost very little, maybe even free of charge.

[polar girder]

Can swap it in when I switch to module. 🫡

[uncut musk]

I bought them, will be here tmr morning will let you know

[bronze grove]

Most repair shops charge more in time than a replacement PCB costs. Already shared the LED link

[tawdry tree]

No problems whatsoever with the latest version of Wootility.

[tawdry tree]

Depends, for something like this it takes a minute at most. Some shops would charge for it but I doubt it’d be much.

[median spade]

Brass weights always the best

should clarify internal brass weights or ones that are external/internal as well

not as good as a result when it's external only

which surprised me that kbdfans even put it internal as their track record with weight is always external

[untold wigeon]

thanks for your input, i’ve decided to wait for support to answer me and if they can help me out in any way

[tawdry tree]

They might be able to help, they’re sweet af. 😂

Maybe too nice even.

[untold wigeon]

i know even in this discord they are very kind and helpful but i hope they can help me out, such a dumb mistake on my end really. crossing my fingers until support answers

[bronze grove]

All "we" at Wooting can offer is a replacement PCB, which is roughly 90€ with economy shipping to most parts of the world.

But whoever spots your email first, will explain everything.

[tawdry tree]

If it’s what Mansen says then try to order the LED separately and shoot ur local repairshop an email or a family member even.

[untold wigeon]

guess thats all i can do

[bleak flicker]

i was wondering if it is possible perhaps with a programmable mouse to bind my fn layers to my mouse somehow anyone got some information about this? :D

[untold wigeon]

i typed what mansen typed in web but cant find it

[stray tiger]

Thanks for the suggestion. Just ordered a POM plate from them for the Sirius60HE build I upgraded last night

[bronze grove]

You might need to get a repair shop to do that for you. It can be tricky to just order such components loose, outside of specialist shops, or direct from a supplier in bulk.

[median spade]

Loved all my plates from him and Tom is great

[untold wigeon]

i see, ah im so pissed

ill just leave the rgb off

[stray tiger]

I cant get plastics from sendcutsend so Im interested to see how it goes. Ill keep you posted.

[median spade]

[untold wigeon]

it dont effect performance does it mansen?

that i fucked up the led

[bronze grove]

Not at all.

[stray tiger]

I turn all my LED's off anyway, youre just a step ahead now

[stray tiger]

Mansen is wrong, everyone knows RGB makes you better

[bronze grove]

That explains my shit aim

[stray tiger]

It depends on the RGB color though. I think Mansen has a chart somewhere

[glossy pagoda]

My computer has a racing stripe for extra clock speed

[tawdry tree]

What was it?

[untold wigeon]

i usually never run leds aswell but it looked great on the wooting

[untold wigeon]

SMD- Full Color Top View LEDs
67-23-RSHGRBYC-M050505-ET1-CS

this

[bronze grove]

https://datasheet.lcsc.com/lcsc/2204181745_Everlight-Elec-67-23-RSHGRBYC-M050505-ET1-CS_C183826.pdf

[stray tiger]

This you?

[tawdry tree]

Holyyyy

[stray tiger]

Probably not, not enough RGB

[stray tiger]

This is actually really good haha

[untold wigeon]

i emailed a local repair shop the LED’s and what mansen said need to be done, hopefully they can hook me up

waiting game

[tawdry tree]

If they have to order the part for you then they might upcharge u a bit :/

[untold wigeon]

yeah

fuck man

such an idiotic thing to do

[median spade]

my desk very boring in comparison

these days

black keyboard, black mouse, black pc with solid side panel,a nd right now a red mouse pad to spice things up

work desk i have my colorful keycaps and deskmats tho

[stray tiger]

Saturn pad?

[median spade]

yeah lgg satur npro atm

[stray tiger]

I already know the answer

haha

[median spade]

was using freefall recently before which is a teal

[tawdry tree]

All good bro. I don’t think the broken LED can cause further damage so you should be able to use it just fine.

[median spade]

this is where you start your no rgb life

join us

[untold wigeon]

will do

[untold wigeon]

i mean yeah, thats the good thing luckily it was only the LED and nothing else

[untold wigeon]

problem solved guys

stealth mode active

[agile grove]

if you got a nice set of WOB keycaps this would be perfect

[untold wigeon]

what that?

ah i saw

yeah u right

but it cost as much as a new pcb here xD

[untold wigeon]

wait i might’ve found it

i should get these no?

[agile grove]

if you want

they're a bit pricy but a lot of people recommend PBTfans WOB https://divinikey.com/products/pbtfan-wob-keycap-set-doubleshot-pbt?variant=40010499555393

[untold wigeon]

cant find in iso

oh they are iso

hmm the ones i sent costs 45

and this one u sent 85

[agile grove]

yea but the ones I sent are high quality, random keycap sets from amazon can be iffy sometimes

I mean they're pretty highly rated so if you wanted to get those you'd probably be fine

[untold wigeon]

yeah i think ill order those instead

since they have good rating

can i return the wooting ones or no?

[tawdry tree]

That is wicked

😱

[agile grove]

you would have to email wooting

[stray tiger]

I liked the blacked-out look of the wooting keycaps on there but if youre embracing the no RGB gang, then some thick PBT keycaps would be nice.

[untold wigeon]

probs what im gonna do is return the keycaps from wooting and get me a pair of these from amazon its the cheapest solution i can do

so i can see the actual keys in the dark

[untold wigeon]

yeah i did

[torn summit]

Yo anyone knows any cool light blue/baby blue keycaps that fit wooting ?

For now i found the mizu keycaps from keycaps industries

I might get these or another cool keycap set with baby blue tofu60 or cherry taro with purple tofu60

[sharp yew]

escape keyboard pom ramune

[primal geode]

WS Purquoise

[harsh dove]

If you don’t care about pricing or ABS, check out GMK Iceberg

[potent wedge]

Fr4 wooting60 plate good or not ?

[zinc falcon]

should i get the jades or ks-20us? which are deeper and thockier? and do i have to lube them?

[harsh dove]

I prefer Jades but KS20u is deeper

But KS20u sound similar to Lekkers to me so I don’t like them as much

[fluid ravine]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A2jAlifFB5c

Corsair finally did something

👏

[quiet bay]

it's

aight

[harsh dove]

Is it an HE board?

I'd assume it is

[fluid ravine]

nooo

[harsh dove]

Oh then nvm

[fluid ravine]

mb

[harsh dove]

https://tenor.com/view/right-in-the-trash-saturday-night-live-straight-in-the-trash-right-in-the-garbage-bag-throw-it-in-the-trash-gif-23601951

[fluid ravine]

indeed

but corsair finally did something different with their keyboard

[harsh dove]

Yeah I'll check it out, usually their boards are chonky

[fluid ravine]

yeeee

chonk

[quiet bay]

it's 159.99 USD on amazon

Rip whoever actually buys that

[harsh dove]

Now I gotta check it out

[fluid ravine]

i mean

their k65 was like 110

so i dont think its that bad tbh

[quiet bay]

if you want performance tho

just get wooting

[fluid ravine]

ye

[quiet bay]

cuz they brand their keyboards as "gaming"

but not even HE yet

[fluid ravine]

scratch that

they are now 70 on amazon

wow

[quiet bay]

wow

[fluid ravine]

30-40 dollar dro

yuhhh

[quiet bay]

aw hell nah

i'd just invest that money

on something else

[fluid ravine]

their k65 PRO is 130

so honestly

i can kinda see why they listed the plus as 160

[fluid ravine]

imo the pro is shit

[quiet bay]

im sorry but

this is ugly as hell

[fluid ravine]

i bought it

tried it

returned it

[quiet bay]

LMAO

[fluid ravine]

this is right before i recieved the wooting

like it wasnt a bad board to start off

[harsh dove]

The fact the knob is plastic says enough for me

[fluid ravine]

looks decent but it was alright

[harsh dove]

https://tenor.com/view/dumping-trash-daniel-labelle-frustrated-garbage-trash-gif-27186872

[fluid ravine]

but as of 2024? na im gud

[fluid ravine]

REAL LMAO

GMK67 do better ong tbh

[harsh dove]

They should throw every pallet they have of that board in the trash and make something else

[quiet bay]

the font, the spacebar, the shinethrough

🤮

[fluid ravine]

HONESTLY

like again i can see why they price it like that but hell im not supporting

[harsh dove]

I'll give em props on the warranty

[quiet bay]

Corsair falling behind on keyboards (been doing that actually)

[harsh dove]

Said you can open up and customize the board without voiding warranty

[quiet bay]

that's nice atleast

[fluid ravine]

indeed

[harsh dove]

Yeah

[fluid ravine]

razer 👀

[harsh dove]

Wait Drop did a hand lubed version of the Pandas?

tf

[fluid ravine]

labor :0

[harsh dove]

https://drop.com/buy/drop-holy-panda-x-hand-lubed-switch-pack?

$45 for 35

https://tenor.com/view/cringe-no-undecided-not-sure-gif-26295992

[quiet bay]

I always just ordered switches off aliexpress

[harsh dove]

Basically paying $30-40 for them to hand lube your switches for you

[fluid ravine]

Glorious: $35 x36 for lubed btw

💀

[harsh dove]

Hand Lubed or Factory?

[fluid ravine]

factory

[harsh dove]

Oh ok

[fluid ravine]

used glube

[quiet bay]

you're not catching me pay a dollar a switch 😭

[harsh dove]

These are almost $2 a switch

For the hand lubed ones

[fluid ravine]

KS-20U, Jades

https://tenor.com/view/gigachad-chad-gif-20773266

[fluid ravine]

oh hell

[quiet bay]

still sticking with my switch taped lekker switches 😂

THEY HAB POTENTIAL

[harsh dove]

$1.28 per switch

if getting 70 switches

[quiet bay]

about 90 dollars

[harsh dove]

Yeah

not including shipping

[quiet bay]

I would just buy myself a nice keyboard kit

[fluid ravine]

[fluid ravine]

indeed 👀

[harsh dove]

For me

I'd rather lube them myself

Cause idk the quality of their hand lubing lol

[quiet bay]

exactly

also feels nicer if u did it urself c:

[polar girder]

lol I want those Atlantis box stem HE’s

And those silicone keycaps NGL

[ancient bluff]

How should i mount my wooting on the salvation?

[stray tiger]

your choice

[ancient bluff]

what are some good way to mount it

[harsh dove]

I'm confused by your question

[ancient bluff]

is oring mount good in salvation or just mount it with the spring leaf

[harsh dove]

Just mount with the leaf springs

O-Ring mounting in the Salvation pretty much defeats its entire purpose (I've done it on mine)

[ancient bluff]

does the bounciness affect the performance at all?

[harsh dove]

Of the switches? No

The distance between the switch and the PCB isn't changing from the bounce, the entire PCB moves together

[ancient bluff]

perfect, ill try that

[torn summit]

Holy they look incredible but yeah pricing is completely killing it

238 euros on kdbfans and its not even buyable

[torn summit]

Oh wow they look like actual jelly

Theyre really cool

Need to find an eu reseller tho

[paper bloom]

@stray tiger have u ever replaced foam with cardboard as a dampener ?

Yes i thought of this, and i intend to do it on my build LOOL

Next build*

[stray tiger]

Negative. That's even a bit a ghetto for my liking

[paper bloom]

I mean pulling out the solid snake cld make the sound nicer

Thinking aboutbit

Ig ima have to try

[untold wigeon]

can u tape mod with masking tape

[paper bloom]

@harsh dove I mean its true we did talk about this, BUT THEN AGAIN either way i will see what i will do and if it actually works and it sounds better ig i will sound the alarm to let you guys know with video

ig

[waxen bane]

Are wooting keycaps good enough?

[paper bloom]

Theyre good

[untold wigeon]

u can see the rgb through the letters unlike some keycaps

[waxen bane]

Yeah that’s the thing I like the shine through but not enough to keep it over better keycaps

I also like my clacky sound profile so idk if I should switch to GMK ABS plastic

[potent wedge]

Fr4 plate wooting60 good or not?

[polar girder]

Define “good”

[potent wedge]

PC switch plate vs fr4 plate

[agile grove]

for what sound profile?

[potent wedge]

Switch l45 and Alumaze60 case

O-ring replacement mount

[agile grove]

I mean thocky or clacky

[potent wedge]

Thocky

[agile grove]

then the PC plate would be better

[paper bloom]

NEVER BUY FROM TAOBAO

They scam people, bro who is crazy af to sell a wooting 60HE for

500 USD

to 1k USD

[atomic nimbus]

Led abuser role when?

[gaunt marten]

It aint 500$

[wispy thistle]

What the difference between donut dipping and bag lubing springs?

[gaunt marten]

And taobao is fine wym

[wispy thistle]

Like is one more effective or pretty much same results?

[gaunt marten]

Wooting 60HE resells for 1600 rmb~ and that's quite good lmao for a reseller

[paper bloom]

Depends on the seller

I checked ali express they got 1k USD

Sales

LOL

[gaunt marten]

That's like blaming an e-commerce website like ebay for people selling for 1000$

🗿

[paper bloom]

Because they are ripping ppl off

[gaunt marten]

Just dont buy from that seller? Whats the hard part

[paper bloom]

Right true

But then again, still

Insane

[paper bloom]

But then again its not blaming an ecommerce website, its more the sellers themselves

[gaunt marten]

.

[paper bloom]

And NEVER BUY FROM TAOBAO

LOL

[wet hazel]

Bought from taobao in the past and it was fine

[untold wigeon]

@agile grove found these

[paper bloom]

I was joking

So long as u made a informed descision and wanna buy yea

Or whatever

[wet hazel]

Yeah used superbuy agents in the past, and it was even cheaper than buying directly from ali

[paper bloom]

Ig

[fading trellis]

Is it just me or analog switches on my 2HE feels a bit inconsistent? I feel like some of the keys require less pressure/force to press.

[somber drum]

can someone explain to me how i can tell if a specific stabiliser is compatible with the wooting? New to modding and big noob

And can anyone recommend what stabilisers to get?

[bronze grove]

Ultimately depends on what exactly you own.

[somber drum]

Wdym by that

[bronze grove]

What product are you buying stabilizers for exactly.

[somber drum]

Wooting 60 he sorry

[bronze grove]

60HE?
60HE+?
60HE Module?

[somber drum]

Stock wooting 60 he keyboard

[bronze grove]

So you're limited to plate mounted stabs. You're probably not going to find any noticeably better than the ones it came with.

[somber drum]

wait whats the 60 he +

[somber drum]

This wouldnt change if i were to change to a PC plate right?

[glacial wind]

Doesn’t change. There’s not much point changing the stabs there anyway - at most what I’d do if you want to mod the stabs is check to see if they’re lubed well (and if not add more lube)

[somber drum]

U reckon its worth doing holee mod and have you done it?

[glacial wind]

No. Modding stabs should only be done IF your stab is making weird noises

think of it like having a perfectly good sharp pencil. Do you want to snap the tip off then resharpen it if the pencil is already sharp?

modding perfectly fine stabs for no reason is probably the number 1 modding mistake for beginners - you only do stab mods/tweaks if/when they actually have issues

[untold wigeon]

hi. um anyone know if (clip in) tx ap stabilizers will work on 60he

[glacial wind]

no if you're using 60he, yes (kinda) if you're using 60he+, it does potentially have some tight fitting issues with the holes according to some early reports from folks though

some folks had it fit fine, some had theirs not fit quite right and needed to sand the holes bigger a tad

[empty sinew]

that's exactly what I done, and it made the sounds much better

it was also very easy to do with the screwed on stabs on module

pretty much all the stabs were quite under lubed

[untold wigeon]

oh ok i see tysm

[somber drum]

Wth is the 60he +

[glacial wind]

https://www.reddit.com/r/WootingKB/comments/1acjhc5/60he_vs_60_60he_vs_module_explained/

[somber drum]

Makes sense

[somber drum]

Sending this here in this channel:

U know that mod people do where they put that material, kinda looks like aluminium foil underneath the spacebar to make it sound better

What if i did that but for every keycap would that be good

why doesnt anyone else do it

I mean personal preference but for the people who want as much thocc as possible surely they do it for every keycap?

Or maybe its because its hard to keep track of exactly how much you put in every keycap so it wont sound even

2nd question:

Guys how can i know if a specific type gummy o ring is compatible with my stock wooting 60he (Not + version). Because in a few videos the gummy o rings they link are to a US site, and im all the way on the other side of the world it says shipping will cost like 50 dollars

3rd question:

I already key cap swapped and case swapped, tape modded and i dont know if there was a difference, and the other worth it mods ive heard are changing the switches to those Jades. I heard theyre compatible, but will they affect performance?

4th question:

Also i dont know what the fk switch filming is would you say its worth it

[paper bloom]

#🪛│modding_faq

[paper bloom]

They burgermount,Tape Mod, Band aid mod, Re lube everything (This is dependent on individual)

[paper bloom]

Everything is in #🪛│modding_faq Regarding your jades, But just be informed on what you intend to do as L45 and L60 switches are the same but just one is heavier on the actuation

[tame vessel]

Did anyone find the Jade springs a bit too "light"? I ended up swapping the springs for l60 ones and it felt so much better after

[paper bloom]

Probs cuz youre used too it

jade springs are 37ish grams from what i hear

[tame vessel]

That makes sense, the l60s are only a bit more right? I'm just surprised that the difference was noticeable to me

[tardy cove]

Seems like everyone is having a different experience. but for my module I put in TX stabs. And they fit tight but fine. About the same about of pressure as putting switches in place to get them seated around the plate and then they fit into place without issue

[paper bloom]

No, its still the same

Jades are long pistoned thingies while the Lekkers are normal switches

So in terms of usage

You will feel a difference cuz of the weight

(This is from what i am seeing)

I can b wrong and right at the same time so it is up to you

[tame vessel]

Ahhh gotcha

[paper bloom]

If u wanna learn more ig go to #🪛│modding_faq

[somber drum]

I meant like u know how in the spacebar they fill stuff with it like tape or a noise deadner material, why do they only do it for they space bar and not all the other keys?

[stray tiger]

Its the largest key with the most hollow space and the only one with enough room to put a dampening material in without hitting a switch

[harsh dove]

This is starting actuation not total or end force , which is 50g

In other words, L45s are lighter

Gateron should really label that because a lot of people think that they’re super light switches when they aren’t really

Because they only have initial actuation labeled

[paper bloom]

Oh mb then

Keep forgetting

About that and i didnt know about gatreons didnt rlly

Label it proper

[harsh dove]

No worries

lol yeah idk why

Cause they labeled their other KS20 switches

And they have the exact same springs

Same force

[paper bloom]

Probs cuz the ks20s are ran by diff management ? For that specific switch project

Or idk

Cuz im looking at it this way from my angle

[harsh dove]

I mean they have it labeled on the physical box on the graph

[paper bloom]

But not on their web right ?

[harsh dove]

Right

[paper bloom]

Then this part idk ig they miss out or ig nobody rlly cared and just whacked

[somber drum]

Alr thanks. Your faq was so helpful

[median spade]

they jsut like doing it like cherry

using actuation as the measurement

for longest time cherry was like saying mx browns and reds were "45g"

since that is actuation

[harsh dove]

Right yeah

Just weird that they labeled their other new KS20 switches

[wind karma]

hello people

does the bottom out feel different on Jade vs open magnetic switches like the KS-20U?

open*(

my brain inst braining rn lol

[stray tiger]

Chat is quiet today. Everyone trying to log in to Last Epoch 🙂

[halcyon sparrow]

@stray tiger Hey I could ask some questions if you're bored

[stray tiger]

Ask away and Ill answer what I can.

[long ravine]

guys, how easily can I mod the wooting two he?

[bronze grove]

As easily as any other keyboard I suppose.

WHAT can be changed is a different matter.

[stray tiger]

Very easily for standard mods

[long ravine]

because I was thinking about putting the pcb with the switches into another case with a different plate

[wind karma]

tirade

do you own the jades?

[stray tiger]

I do

[wind karma]

what about the ks-20u?

[stray tiger]

yes

[wind karma]

does bottoming out feel different since one is closed?

[stray tiger]

The shorter travel distance of the Jades does feel a bit different.

[shrewd dragon]

whats the size of the the wooting 60 HE spacebar

[wind karma]

and you prefer the longer distance?

[old swallow]

6.25u

[stray tiger]

I wouldnt say that, I enjoy both

[wind karma]

i see

[shrewd dragon]

thanks alot

[wind karma]

which switch do you prefer

[old swallow]

np

[stray tiger]

Hard to say, I havent used both on the same board yet but might do that in the next few days and will let you know

[wind karma]

alright then.

do you think gateron will make a dual rail closed bottom HE switch?

or any information that it will happen lol

[harsh dove]

Got to drive these a tiny bit today

[long ravine]

can that be considered a standard mod?

[old swallow]

be sure not to speed in that,

[bronze grove]

There are no aftermarket cases for the 2HE

This is strictly a 60% keyboard thing.

[old swallow]

[harsh dove]

I’m at work sadly

Logging in when I’m home

[long ravine]

do you think I can find any other cases that fit?

[torn summit]

Y'all think cherry taro keycaps are gonna work with dark purple 60 redux ?

[stray tiger]

100%

[bronze grove]

I feel like you're completely ignoring what I just said.

There are no - no - no - cases

Short of you designing and making one, you're out of luck.

[long ravine]

I see

[torn summit]

Oh wow that is a bad quality image my bad guys

[halcyon sparrow]

Do you drive these for work?

[long ravine]

Thanks for the help tho

[torn summit]

Nice, ecoating purple works well but i much prefer dark purple over light purple

[harsh dove]

Slightly but not much

[halcyon sparrow]

What about the pressure required do you find the springs have similar pressure to bottom out?

[old swallow]

real gamers know that jades are goated

[halcyon sparrow]

Unless rapid trigger is your goal in gaming

[old swallow]

ive tried L60, L45 and Jades, i personally think the Jades feel very simmmilar to the L45's in term of spring weight

[harsh dove]

Well the Jades and KS20u share the exact same spring so yeah it feels the same

[halcyon sparrow]

Amazing

And the wobble? Slim to none?

[harsh dove]

KS20u have less wobble than Jades but Jades are pretty good in that respect as well, less wobble than Raptors or Lekkers

[halcyon sparrow]

You have me sold, thank you alot for the time saving for research

[median spade]

yeah no wobble is the l60 stem in raptor

that is true no wobble

but the jades are really good to the point it doesn't matter unless you have OCD about wobble

[old swallow]

nah, KS20U are no wobble, with the dual rail, but if i follow what cam said the Jades are still better

[median spade]

they still have wobble as it's just plastic and tolerances

but it's p good

I use jades myself and have raptors, l60s, etc

[old swallow]

idk, when cam was streaming him trying them he said he couldnt feel any wobble at all 🤷

[median spade]

yeah i was just saying wobble still exists even if it's mnior

[harsh dove]

Yeah I tried explaining that a switch will technically always have wobble because you have the tolerance balance between the stem being free flowing or having friction between the top housing

[old swallow]

well, yeah. moving parts will always have some. but you know

[harsh dove]

Like the raptor lekker stem for example

Has friction because of the tolerances

[median spade]

indeed

they were my fave overall but too lazy to build them again

[harsh dove]

The KS20u are about as close as you can get to no wobble before hitting that friction point

Im sure it could be finely tuned even more in terms of tolerances

Without hitting the friction point

[old swallow]

the perfect switch, it must be somewhere out there 🔭

[harsh dove]

If you don’t care about friction then run the raptors with Lekker stem

That’s true no wobble

[velvet egret]

Are there anymore up and coming HE switches?

[wind karma]

i'm going to get the KS-20U's man

wonder how a closed version would sound tho

[old swallow]

i think the Neo65 HE will come with Lavender HE switches, but from what ive heard those are just recoloured Jades

but idk if those will be available seperate, or only with the board, or maybe im just talking nonsense, since not much is known about that yet

[velvet egret]

ah alright,thanks.

[wet hazel]

new switches that "glow in the dark"

[shrewd dragon]

wait

but

whats the point of RGB then

[velvet egret]

rgb is overrated

[shrewd dragon]

just bcs it will glow right after u turn ur pc off?

[shrewd dragon]

ye but it wont do shit without rgb either otherwise u need a desk lamp for your keyboard or that effect will not be useful

[median spade]

yeah it's called broken in mx blacks springs wapped and lubed

[old swallow]

great, ill throw those in my 60HE 😆

[median spade]

i belive in cherry if they ever make a he switch

[long ravine]

guys I have a second question: is there any difference between the pcb of the 60he and the pcb of the two he?

besides the size ofc

[median spade]

no

[bronze grove]

Some differences, yes

[median spade]

108 keys vs 61 right mansen

[long ravine]

one of them has aftermarket cases, the other one doesn't

[halcyon sparrow]

@stray tiger is there a more firm plate then the one that comes with the module?

Similar to copper?

[bronze grove]

There's the steel plate?

[stray tiger]

Stiffer? The steel plate

[stray tiger]

Can probably find one for sale easily as most prefer the PC it seems

[long ravine]

what kind of differences?

[bronze grove]

None I'm going to bother naming. They aren't cross compatible in any way, case or otherwise.

[cedar verge]

anyone have recommendations for good dark transparent keycaps?

[halcyon sparrow]

When your room isn't dark

[stray tiger]

PBTFans Pyga

[halcyon sparrow]

Okay I'll pick up ks switches and a steel plate

Going to lube and grease my stabs this weekend following the video tutorial

[untold wigeon]

#🪛│modding_faq soz couldnt find it so just doing this

[stray tiger]

It's also pinned thx

[cedar verge]

preciate it

[median spade]

haven't used raptors in a while, and just swapped to them

still good

[sacred jay]

not very new

the glow is very noticable after you turn pc off

[quiet bay]

Wow thats stupid

[sacred jay]

practical use? pretty much none

[old swallow]

tbf, thats any coloured switches

[sacred jay]

BUT its ink

[shrewd dragon]

what is the difference between 6.25U and 6.25 HE in space bar sizes is there even a difference?

[old swallow]

euhm, 6.25u is just the size of the spacebar, HE or not doesnt have any effect on how the spacebar is, so this is pretty strange

[median spade]

yeah very weird

should all be the same

[shrewd dragon]

etsy things i guess

[old swallow]

yeah, probably

[quiet bay]

what kind of spacebar are you buying that's costing you 35-40 euros

[sacred jay]

artisan?

[shrewd dragon]

i was just using it for example they hjave like 5 diffrent dropshipping options on there and this one is the most expensive one

[sacred jay]

wait

its sa/cherry

i dont know what "he" is i would ignore that

[quiet bay]

well just keep in mind on what keycap profile you're going for

[shrewd dragon]

yea well i have an oem one so i guess i will pick cherry?

im not really sure tbh

[quiet bay]

well what's the profile of your keycaps?

[sacred jay]

do you know the differences?

[quiet bay]

i'd suggest keeping it the same as your keycaps tbh

[shrewd dragon]

Oem isnt listed on most of the others that arent priced that high

[shrewd dragon]

well i looked at a graf on reddit

eh

im not sure its lifted up a little i would say

so either its gonna be an Oem or a Cherry one but upside down maybe

[untold wigeon]

im curious to hear what your current wooting setup is? like all the mods?

[river rune]

Check out my packing foam mod lol. I’m waiting on my tofu redux to get here but I really wanted to try the wooting module so I used the foam that it came with. Lowkey sounds pretty decent too

[untold wigeon]

is that wootings coiled cable?

just ordered mine then

[river rune]

nope this one is from amazon, by the brand "Ranked"

20 bucks and its really nice imo

[stray tiger]

I currently have 3-4 wooting boards and they are all different. Which is why its hards for me to say specifically that I prefer one thing over the over

[untold wigeon]

damn do u have multiple 60 he's?

[stray tiger]

yes

[untold wigeon]

i wanna try both the jades and raptors first but raptors gotta wait im testing out jades first

[shrewd dragon]

i was just about to ask is there any specs a cable must have for the wooting? as many had issues with diffrent brand cables?

[untold wigeon]

just needs to be good quality i think, hard to say, just to be safe n sound i purchased from wooting instead

read somewhere that the razer coiled cable is good i think

just a few hrs before

[river rune]

can confirm that the magnetic jades are awesome, ill post a sound test here in my literal foam build lol. Sound great stock

[untold wigeon]

yes pls post

[river rune]

hmm not sure, it works perfectly though

[untold wigeon]

@stray tiger is stem swapping for the jades with the stock wooting switches a thing? heard it was for the raptors

[stray tiger]

That would defeat the prupose of the jades

[untold wigeon]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lp_kJNGPyI&ab_channel=MineMouseReviews Idk guys i feel like this is my favourite so far , i havent heard any this good before

but i havent watched too many vids at the same time

[shrewd dragon]

what is it

[stray tiger]

The Jades have the closed stem and long pole switch. if you dont want that then just get another switch

[shrewd dragon]

ye no im curious on what it do what is expected to be improved/different

[stray tiger]

Its a different sound and typing feeling. Whether thats better or worse is a personal preference.

[untold wigeon]

bro do the wooting moderators like you get free products

thst would be nice

[shrewd dragon]

Hm i totally just stumbled into keyboard modding and there is damn alot to do or stuff you can do if u want to

[river rune]

Here are stock jades on a foam case lol, I’ll post another when my redux gets here

[shrewd dragon]

Tape mod sounded to me so stupid first hand ngl

[untold wigeon]

fr dude, there should really be a post that just lists all the usual possible mods you can do to a keyboard cos idk where to start to be honest

[stray tiger]

The only thing free Ive ever received was an UwU but I also bought an UwU. Anything else I have wooting was paid for by me or for my time working on support requests/customer service not related to discord.

[untold wigeon]

Alr

[shrewd dragon]

u say ur support work got paid with wooting products

[untold wigeon]

Ngl typing without the case feles nice lol i remember doing it while waiting for case aswell

[stray tiger]

Not paid, it was volunteer work and I had s store credit I used

[untold wigeon]

nice sound test tho

Im curious to see what my new build would sound like

[shrewd dragon]

as the Thockfather whats ur opinion on people on youtube claiming the wooting can not sound good

[river rune]

yeah it actually gives the board some flex which i hear it wont have any at all

[untold wigeon]

do u have any sound tests that u have done for the wooting 60 he, thockfather?

[stray tiger]

My opinion is that there are tons of people in here who would disagree. Is it much harder than a typical board thats designed from the ground up to sound good and not a performance board? Then yes, thats true.

The difference is you cant make a typical board into a performance board, regardless of how much work you put into it

[shrewd dragon]

fair point i will try to modify my 60HE+ to the point where i like it and soundwise anything will be better than my rattle Vulcan TKL

[polar girder]

lol the Wooting is limited in that it uses HE switches

So the gripe is with HE not just the Wooting

And “sounding good” is highly subjective

[river rune]

i think this board sounds great honestly, i have a tiger 80 and a mode sonnet, all have different sound signatures but right now im diggine the sound of the jades

[polar girder]

Yeah 60HE is goated

And fully customizable

[stray tiger]

I love the Mode Sonnet, one of my fav boards, but while it sounds and feels great it would never replace a performance gaming board.

[polar girder]

I’m pumped for my brass weight

Then swap to the module

[sacred jay]

i have a board i built myself and of course it sounds better than my 60he, but my 60he doesnt sound bad in the slightest

[shrewd dragon]

im considering buying the jades with the 80HE

[river rune]

100% agree, the performance of these he boards is insance comparatively when it comes to gaming

[shrewd dragon]

Glad to hear did u modify ur 60HE somehow?

[sacred jay]

a lot but imo it was alright stock

[stray tiger]

HE boards are the direction the community is headed towards. Its only a matter of time and 2024 is a key year

[river rune]

i would go for it, ive heard sound tests for other magnetic switches and they all sounded bad to me except for these. I'm sure there will be a lot more players in the game soon though, by the time the 80he rolls out im guessing a few more switches will be out as well

[untold wigeon]

sound feeling is just personal preference

1 person might love lekkers and hate jades and the other the other way around

[river rune]

yeah obv this is just my opinion

[untold wigeon]

yup

[quiet bay]

Question: Would lighter springs produce a higher pitched sound and would heavier springs produce a lower pitched sound?

[river rune]

depends on housing material i think

[stray tiger]

No

[shrewd dragon]

ye if i would've known there was an other option other than lekker switches i wouldve bought the jades but that that point i wasnt well informed

[quiet bay]

aw cuz I was wondering if springs would change sound in the way you press it or something

[harsh dove]

Yeah springs don’t change sound

[river rune]

it might make them more punchy but thats about it

[quiet bay]

ye just wondering if the force you put into your switch would change sound

[harsh dove]

You can make your switch sound different by hitting it harder lol but the spring is simply changing force required, not sound

[quiet bay]

yeah i'm not talking about the spring itself but the force it takes

maybe different bottom out due to different amount of force

[harsh dove]

Well those two things go together so

[shrewd dragon]

but isnt the snap back sound also gonna be changed with different springs with different forces?

[quiet bay]

[harsh dove]

The force isn’t being applied by the spring tho

You as the user is applying the force

[untold wigeon]

can anyone tell by this picture which one came with the alumaze case

[shrewd dragon]

but if u release ur finger the force of the spring still pushes the key back up and it makes a sound or no?

[quiet bay]

hmm

[river rune]

i think a stronger spring will just enhance the sound of the snap back but i dont think it will change the sound

[quiet bay]

I kind of want to test

a 100g spring

when the spring pack comes out

[shrewd dragon]

so just louder but no change

[quiet bay]

because my l45s and l60s sound completely different

[river rune]

i think so

[harsh dove]

Yes but that’s going to come down to keycap material at that point

[shrewd dragon]

no just put them both in

[harsh dove]

And switch housing materials

[untold wigeon]

did u do that?😂

[river rune]

yeah if you want a different sound then changing the housing material is the way to go

[harsh dove]

Yeah

[shrewd dragon]

i mean there was some dude bulding in that place holder if ur case is not there yet so i dont thin k there should be a Problem with it but dont take my word on that im sill waiting for my module

[sacred jay]

springs dont affect sound

except for undesirable sound

[shrewd dragon]

so case or material of keycaps

[quiet bay]

nah im talking about the force that the springs basically "guide" you to use

not sure how to explain it

[polar girder]

Yeah what gives the thock? PC, POM or nylon???

[sacred jay]

i dont like pc tops

[untold wigeon]

tape mod

[sacred jay]

that top out is terrible

[harsh dove]

Yeah most don’t like HE because of the upstroke sound

[sacred jay]

my frankens on my other board is P3 stem, milky top, ink bottom

[harsh dove]

Which is mainly because of the PC Top housing they use on almost all HE switches

[shrewd dragon]

Masking white Tape because no Residue right?

[quiet bay]

when spring pack comes out

ima try out the 100g springs

[untold wigeon]

idk i used masking tape

[sacred jay]

100g springs but cut to 1/2-2/3 length with a nail clipper will actually be god spring for osu

[untold wigeon]

3 layers

i dont even have foam in

i will put it in tomorrow

[shrewd dragon]

seen a dude on yt use elekto tape

well i would maybe try that

but then he tried ducttape

[river rune]

i think painters tape is best, also have to think about residue and tapes that could effect the circuitry

[harsh dove]

Moleskin FTW

https://tenor.com/view/change-my-mind-meme-gif-23310141

[old swallow]

https://tenor.com/view/tom-and-jerry-jerry-mouse-oh-really-what-did-you-say-gif-4567866740137164332

[quiet bay]

well ig it wouldn't really change sound that much 😔
just a little idea I was thinking about during school

[harsh dove]

Painters tape overrated

[quiet bay]

yes

[harsh dove]

Moleskin better

[river rune]

whats moleskin?

[untold wigeon]

i get my keycap puller tomorrow i cant take the keycaps out buy have and i dont want to damage them cuz they are going to be returned to wooting

[harsh dove]

If I told you

[quiet bay]

I use 1 layer of masking with 1 layer of moleskin and it sounded better than my 5 layers of masking tape (subjective)

[harsh dove]

I’d have to kill you

[quiet bay]

o.o

[old swallow]

0.0

[river rune]

lol

[harsh dove]

Look up Dr scholls moleskin

[river rune]

whats that sound like? it seems like it would dampen sound

[quiet bay]

deep

my wooting even sounds good naked with it

(no case)

altho I tried it on a deskmat

[river rune]

might have to check it out when i get bored of no tape

[harsh dove]

https://youtu.be/4daNGthy2vk?si=dYuWD2LInnTUjYXG

Covers painters tape, moleskin, and keebtape

Which I’ve also tried and is nice as well

Keebtape gives a poppier sound

[stray tiger]

https://tenor.com/view/mole-gif-22629764

[shrewd dragon]

do you ever heard about the wooting havin a problem with heat due to wrong use of foam or tape?

[harsh dove]

Never heard of any problems

[shrewd dragon]

great thx

[harsh dove]

I’d just recommend not using something like duct tape

Since it has a really strong adhesive and leaves a residue

[untold wigeon]

neither, but again i dont use rgb and its only 20-23c in my room

[old swallow]

naaah, what could go wrong

[harsh dove]

lol ripping components off the back of the PCB

no biggy if you know how to solder lol

But rather not have too in the first place

[shrewd dragon]

ye using duct tape is a different kind of bravery

[harsh dove]

Definitely is

[tame vessel]

How many layers of moleskin do folks usually do?

[quiet bay]

one cuz its thicc

[tame vessel]

Nice

I'm using 3 layers of painter's tape atm and I'm curious about giving it a shot now

Also seems legitimately handy to have with some of my shoes xD

[shrewd dragon]

I will try It too

This friday my wooting will arive I will try tape mod and try diffrent foams and a Set of PBT caps and see how it sounds and feels and most important I will see how it performs ingame

[stray tiger]

Try it stock, then try it lubed if you want a change. Then you can focus on other mods

[old swallow]

L take, just spend hundreds of dollars on mods right away.

[shrewd dragon]

Okay! I will

[grand hill]

what are the advantages of a new case?

[shrewd dragon]

Well its already to late for that already bought he he+ and an alu case

[stray tiger]

Maybe no advantage on all, but maybe looks or sound for some people.

[grand hill]

i mean sound like what does it do to sound

and is there any way to get one relatively cheap or are they all like $100+?

[stray tiger]

Depends on the case material

[grand hill]

now that i lubed my keyboard what are the reccomended mods to do?

[shrewd dragon]

Tofu60 Redux seems to be an often use cheaper version

[tame vessel]

Tapemod is cheap and easy

[grand hill]

what are the chances of that messing up my PCB??

[stray tiger]

Less than 1%

[tame vessel]

Minimal if you aren't using some crazy ass tape

[grand hill]

what tape is recocmended?

[shrewd dragon]

Masking

[grand hill]

is that like painters tape

[tame vessel]

Most people use masking, painter's, or electrical tape

[shrewd dragon]

if u use other kind of tapes its recommended to do a first layer of masking tape aswell

[grand hill]

is painters tape jkuist masking tape

[tame vessel]

Yes, but with lower adhesion

[grand hill]

does that matter or nah

[tame vessel]

Less residue to clean up if you choose to remove it

[grand hill]

its not gonna be more or less likely to mess up PCB tho?

[quiet bay]

tbh moleskin tape doesn't really leave residue but it's just really annoying to take off

[tame vessel]

Nah, it shouldn't mess up the PCB

[old swallow]

atleast its easier to take off then foreskin

huh

[tame vessel]

Be careful when removing I guess, but unless it's something like duct tape it should be fine

[shrewd dragon]

wat

[grand hill]

no deleting it now buddy

[grand hill]

why woulkd i remove it?

like if i odnt like it?

[tame vessel]

Yup yup

[old swallow]

why would i delete it

i stand by what i said

[tame vessel]

Tape mod and stuff like that is all just sound preference

[grand hill]

what else should i try

[tame vessel]

Mmm friction mounting with an o-ring is cheap as well and easy to do.

[grand hill]

what is that?

[old swallow]

you put a rubber o ring around the plate and PCB, and because there is no room to move around it stays in the case

so you dont need screws or anything

[tame vessel]

It sorta helps with the sound

[median spade]

yeah just removes the contact points from the tray

but can only do so much of course

[tame vessel]

One thing that bugged me for my build a lot was the space bar. Ended up putting some white tack in there to make it sound less hollow 🤷‍♂️

[untold wigeon]

was? i dont need to screw in pcb into case if i have oring?

[old swallow]

well, yeah. you dont have to

[untold wigeon]

i have alumaze and module

[old swallow]

you could if you want i guess, but then you kinda defeat the point

[untold wigeon]

i dont think u can use oring around pcb cuz of stabilizers

[old swallow]

i was about to say that

i think you can, but only if you dont use the silicone/poron sandwich pad

[tame vessel]

It's incompatible with silicon pad and screw in stabs

[harsh dove]

What’s the question here?

[old swallow]

can you o ring mount the module?

[harsh dove]

Yes

[old swallow]

but not with silicone pad right?

[harsh dove]

Correct

Have to use foam or nothing

[old swallow]

but you can with the poron foam?

ooh ok

[harsh dove]

Yes

[old swallow]

i tought it was only nothing, but i was still mostly correct

[harsh dove]

If using screw in stabs, you need to do one of two things to make it work.
A. Replace backspace and spacebar stabs with clip in stabs and use an M-size Graveshift O Ring

B. If using screw in stabs, use an S-size Graveshift O Ring

I will warn that the S ring may not work with screw in stabs depending on your keyboard case. I don’t know which cases it doesn’t work with if it doesnt

[untold wigeon]

i use poron

[harsh dove]

I’ve tested it on the Alumaze and Salvation tho and it was fine

Going to test on Tofu soon

[old swallow]

soo, if you follow what cam said you should be good

[untold wigeon]

so i can just get S size from graveshift and call it a day since i have alumaze and module?

and it just goes around the outlines on the pcb?

[harsh dove]

Yep

Basically want it between the PCB and the top plate

It will bulge out at the contact points where the stabs are and that’s where you’ll have to work them into the case as you’re inserting it

More specifically the spacebar

[untold wigeon]

with my luck i will fuck it up haha but its this right?

[harsh dove]

Yeah and it’s typically recommended to go with 30A - 50A

I’ve tested 55 and 65 and it was fine just tougher

I prefer 40a tho

[untold wigeon]

shipping 20$ xD

[harsh dove]

Oof

[untold wigeon]

indeed

could get this from a swedish site

dunno if it would fit with screw ins tho

[harsh dove]

See if you can find its specs and compare it to the specs of the Graveshift

[untold wigeon]

no specs on graveshift

[tame vessel]

https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B07WRWDMKP?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share

That's what I'm using if you want some kind of spec reference

The only thing I've noticed is that it is squishing the foam tight in places which is to be expected I guess

[untold wigeon]

u have module+alumaze?

its the same thickness and size as the one i found on a swedish website

185mm and 3.5mm thick

[tame vessel]

Nah, I have the tofu60 redux

I've heard the alumaze is a bit of a tighter fit

[untold wigeon]

rip

[median spade]

@harsh dove have you done oring in alumaze with no foam?

Was just testing stuff with my tofu and it basically has no ping with friction oring so wonder if same goes for alumaze

[harsh dove]

That’s how I have it built rn

No case foam

Sits lower in the case that way

And I don’t notice any ping

And since you can’t or shouldn’t do case foam or friction mount in the Salvation, moleskin tape fixes that issue

At least it did for me imo

[median spade]

[harsh dove]

I need to redo stabs on that build tho

They sluggish

Plus doesn’t help that the KS20u feel slightly overlubed

[old swallow]

is that just be default? or did you hand lube them?

[harsh dove]

Default

Haven’t lubed them

[hexed pilot]

is tape mod worth it?! and if so can i do it without removing the switches from the pcb??

[stray tiger]

Worth it is debateable, and yes you can

[hexed pilot]

okay, thank you:)

[median spade]

wish the tofu didn't have these as it's the only thing stopping my keycaps from being below the lip perfectly and not showing the tops of the switches

[stray tiger]

Nothing a dremel cant fix

[median spade]

you make a valid point

[honest flume]

did you guys lube your jades?

or is it good factory lube

[stray tiger]

yes and yes

[honest flume]

yes to good factory lube?

[stray tiger]

yes to both

[honest flume]

would u say its worth lubing, I lubed switches before just wondering if its different for the jades.

[stray tiger]

Worth it is personal preference, they are good from the factory

[harsh dove]

@median spade

No case foam alumaze

With case foam before

[uncut musk]

Small O-Ring seems to work fine with my tofu

[honest flume]

silicon pad or the poron plate foam?

i want a clackier sound not really dampen sound

[harsh dove]

Remove foam if you want clack

[honest flume]

so no plate foam?

[harsh dove]

Correct

[honest flume]

okay

would silicone make the board sound more muted?

[median spade]

this is with the oring?

[harsh dove]

Yessir

40a

No case foam, 1 layer moleskin tape

No ping baby

[median spade]

nice nice

[harsh dove]

I’m starting to feel like I’m anti-foam lol

Been taking it outta my boards lately

[median spade]

Welcome

[fluid ravine]

i wish

[quiet bay]

I like both foamy and clacky but lean more to foam c:

[median spade]

It's how it always starts

you have your first tgeneric keyboard or tray mount that sounds trash after you hear one youtube video and realize

then you go foam (or foam gasket mount these days), and then you get that one board or sound that brings you to clack

It is the way of keyboards

Also here is this. Tofu refux using friction mount with pom plate, hand lubed jades with top housing lubed, and just silicone dampener from my freebird underneath since I dont' use a desk mat so it helps with that. Sound test is on a desk mat tho

[fluid ravine]

that SMACKS

[median spade]

[quiet bay]

okk these are nice creamy clacks

[fluid ravine]

Nah it just SMACKS

[median spade]

I wonder how frog would sound with these jades lubed like this as all i have is sound before, but I'm too lazy to build it again

[stray tiger]

https://oshid.com/products/oshid-amber?variant=44175821078757

[quiet bay]

ehh not a fan of the looks tbh

[harsh dove]

https://oshid.com/cdn/shop/files/953B1A03-35AF-42FA-8E75-9E9B1BA2770D-27529-000012E05CB25816.jpg?v=1695720639&width=1100

Wtf is this board lol

[quiet bay]

looks like a cyberboard

very expensive board

by angry miao

not a big fan of it xd

their new Relic80 looks pretty clean tho

[harsh dove]

Me neither

[quiet bay]

this time they wanted to focus more on sound so the board doesn't look too crazy

(still really expensive lmao)

[glacial wind]

My matching block keycaps are here. Still no idea where I'll use them, but maybe on 80he to turn one row/area in a big screenshot button perhaps since I don't need all the right buttons

[static tendon]

What rapid trigger settings are people running here? I’ve gotten quite a bit used to it at this point but I’ve gone down to the 0.15mm rapid trigger. I like how I can really spam keys quickly

[paper bloom]

I run it to the sensitive

[static tendon]

So 0.15mm?

[static tendon]

What games do you use it in?

[glacial wind]

yeah rapid trigger i use at lowest, although i turn it off on left shift for shift walking

[paper bloom]

Everything

[static tendon]

Old reply, but this is the soul black colored salvation case correct?

[static tendon]

Gotcha, I'm still messing around with my settings here and there