🔧│keyboard_modding

[static tendon]

Making sure I have everything before my own Salvation case arrives 🙂

Or does it use these hex allen wrenches?

[harsh dove]

no

and yeah they use hex

[static tendon]

Ok just making sure I have it all 🙂 Thanks

[harsh dove]

np

almost done lubing jades

https://tenor.com/view/wipe-off-sweat-bradley-hall-clear-the-perspiration-wash-away-sweat-gif-5666657092934823161

[static tendon]

Gonna post a sound test?

[harsh dove]

nah thats classified

Did you see the new keycaps?

[static tendon]

https://tenor.com/view/good-one-clap-clapping-ryan-gosling-gif-8129215

[static tendon]

I have not, GMK set?

[harsh dove]

No sir

[static tendon]

What did you end up going with?

[harsh dove]

IV Works Ashes

[static tendon]

Looks super clean, I really like it

[harsh dove]

Yeah, its really nice, I like it so far

[static tendon]

The color theme plays well with the black case for sure

[static tendon]

Good luck

Do you have a switch opener?

Ooo, that's gonna make it quite a bit more challenging. Respect to you

@harsh dove did you add leaf springs on these corners as well?

[harsh dove]

Nah

[static tendon]

So for the wooting did you only end up using 2 screws to hold in the PCB/plate? Or was there more screws you maybe added?

[harsh dove]

Just two

[static tendon]

Oh wow

[honest flume]

is there a sound test for the jades with the wooting60he+

on a tofu redux case

[solemn lynx]

what kind of tape should i use and how many layers for tape mod?

[indigo oasis]

masking tape and 3 layers

[solemn lynx]

got it ty

[indigo oasis]

i just finished lubing and bandaid modding my spacebar, it still sounds very rattly someone please help

[grim steppe]

Worth it?

[bleak ginkgo]

will using a coiled cable ruin performance?

[bronze grove]

It either works or it doesn't.

No performance difference

[bleak ginkgo]

wdym eiuther works or doesnt

[bronze grove]

Literally what I said.

https://youtu.be/U8ojU_8ASVE

Our cables are rated to work. Can't guarantee it with third party cables.

[azure jacinth]

Slap a layer of tape on the inside of your space bar keycap…it made mine sound night and day better

[solar swan]

yo guys my stock wooting is coming in a few days. what mods should i do to it which is pretty easy

[indigo oasis]

lube it tape mod it foam mod it

[solar swan]

ok i dont have lube

is it safe to tape mod

idw to ruin the whole board

[indigo oasis]

yes

depends what tape ur using tho

[solar swan]

what kinda tape shld i use

[indigo oasis]

masking tape or painters tape

[solar swan]

alright thanks

[hard moon]

i'm desperate finding out why my ISO sounds so different compared to my ANSI... They're built the exact same way, yet there are worlds between their sound profiles. Maybe someone can help me out? @stray tiger

1st one in the sound sample is the ANSI

[stray tiger]

Keycaps are different. It appears. Doubleshot vs dyesub. Cherry profiles vs OEM. That's a good start

[crimson sky]

caps are different

inner shot on the doubleshots is not PBT afaik

different cap thickenss

and different profile obv

[stray tiger]

He didn't need me, you guys are on it too 🙂

[crimson sky]

[hard moon]

she*

[crimson sky]

also you might have screwed in one harder than the other one

can make a surprisingly large difference on some boards

[hard moon]

but anyways, so ds PBTs can do a thockier sound it seems

[hard moon]

definitely not. Just reassembled both

[untold wigeon]

which one sounds better

iso or the ansi nyumi

[lapis stump]

Anything to share about how they are hand lubed? And how long did it take?

[stray tiger]

I didn't ask but same plate, same stabs, etc?

[hard moon]

Yep

everything is the exact same, even the mounting. The only differences are the keycaps and layout

[stray tiger]

Then yeah that's got to be it. I saw the yellow strap and thought maybe it was the 60HE and still had the steel plate.

[hard moon]

Alumaze, PC plate, module, burger mounted, 3 layers of tape mod, case foam, plate foam, hand lubed

[stray tiger]

Do you prefer the sound of the one with the cherry keycaps?

[hard moon]

personally the PBT keycaps sound by far better and less rattling

[stray tiger]

They are thicker and better quality for sure.

[hard moon]

explains why it sounds by far more solid

[fluid ravine]

Morning

Bout to get ready for skooool

[untold wigeon]

which ones are the pbt? the yellow and black one or the black and white one?

[hard moon]

black and white

[untold wigeon]

kk thanks

[stray tiger]

All the wires should be interchange/compatible across most brands

[tawdry tree]

Inside and outside are PBT Mansen stated.

[crimson sky]

inside is a pbt blend

which is most likely fine durability wise

will just end up sounding a bit different that regular pbt caps

[bronze grove]

PBT is not transparent.

[tawdry tree]

You’re sure?

[bronze grove]

For keycaps like ours, POM is used for the letterings.

[crimson sky]

basically what mansen said

[bronze grove]

The "outer" layer of the keycap is PBT, except for the lettering. Then a second layer is added in transparent POM to fill out the lettering for each keycap.

[tawdry tree]

Hmm, I’m quite sure you said otherwise before but maybe I’m imagining things.

[crimson sky]

"virgin" (so pure) PBT is a lot more opaque, in something relativley cheap like keycaps you would have a lower grade one

in which case it would be even more opaque

so it would look more like a very milky white

where you can just see a hint of the lighting shining through

[tawdry tree]

I see

[crimson sky]

the PBT POM blend is a lot more transparent while also being more chemically resistant than something like ABS

and not being quite as brittle as just POM

[harsh dove]

They are factory lubed on the stem rails and bottom housing already and it’s pretty good tbh , I went ahead and lubed all the bottom housings again with 205g0 and stems and then also did springs in SuperLube Oil and did the top housings

[tawdry tree]

I think we talked about this when discussing translucent with a clear inside keycap set.

The blend can never be as clear as ABS right?

[harsh dove]

Took like 3 hrs

[crimson sky]

afaik, no

if you want clear caps go ABS or PC

[harsh dove]

Definitely

[stray tiger]

Lubed your Jades?

[harsh dove]

Yessir

Def worth it

Factory is still pretty consistent like I said before but hand lube just makes em sound and feel much better to me

[marble shuttle]

Just hand lubed stem ? Or you did top and bottom

[harsh dove]

And lubing the springs removed the spring ping

[harsh dove]

I did everything , bottom, top housing, stem and springs

[marble shuttle]

Nice

[quiet bay]

sound test where now? 👀

comparison if possible

bro is about to open 61 keys manually without the help of a switch opener 💀

I pray for you along with the switches that get damaged along the way 🙏

[harsh dove]

Yeah I need to make one

[median spade]

what did you think oif the top housing difference?

I like mine al ot now but am curious

[brave lagoon]

@median spade

I’m trying to make my keyboard sound creamy, does any lube work?

Or does the sound depend more like on the switch, I’m currently using Lekker

[harsh dove]

I think it helped a lot

[agile grove]

both, use 205g0 for switches

[median spade]

you give up on creamy is first thing, and then use 205g0

HE can't be creamy as it stands currently

[median spade]

It def changed them a lot for me

[harsh dove]

Pretty much how I feel tbh

Can make if foamy tho if you add enough foam

[quiet bay]

Mine or Thockson's is pretty close to creamy

it could be better tho

will get cerakeys when white crazed drops >:v

[harsh dove]

Idk if I've heard yours in awhile but yeah idk how Thockson got his board to sound like that lol

I know it's a mixture of things like polyfill and switch tape mod etc

[quiet bay]

sorry for fan noises lel

[median spade]

fan noises good

makes audio more accruate to environment

if this was done with proper mic and not phone

[quiet bay]

used hyper x quadcast to record it

[median spade]

prettyh creamy tho nice

[lapis stump]

Dang now I am tempted to handlube all mine. Get it more consistent

It's been years but I do have some 205 left

[quiet bay]

Do it 🫵

[lapis stump]

Haha this board is my gaming kb end game so migth as well

[quiet bay]

wooting is my first gaming keyboard and optical(?) keyboard

and I've invested so much in it so might as well make it my endgame gaming keyboard lol

[lapis stump]

Well you Def did it right without spending $$ tinkering with customs

Went down that rabbit hole during covid. Lol

Saw how bad it impacted my wallet

[harsh dove]

Lubed Jades

Backspace and Spacebar need some more tuning imo

[quiet bay]

hmmm sounds sort of pingy

def does have that signature he sound still

but sound better than most 🙂

[quiet bay]

and yeah does need tuning

and you just reminded me that i have to retune my backspace

[harsh dove]

This is unlubed

Basically the same, lubed just sounds deeper to me

[quiet bay]

yeah lubed is deeper I agree

nice improvement overall!

[harsh dove]

With GMK ABS caps

[quiet bay]

personal preference but I like the pbt ones more

[harsh dove]

Yeah me too

[quiet bay]

although I do like the gmk spacebar tho

[harsh dove]

only this set specifically tho lol

[quiet bay]

i mean yeah those pbt keycaps are clean

[harsh dove]

Yeah those were tx ap clips and I had those tuned way better

these screws in, I did very lazy tbh lol

[quiet bay]

lmao I mean

screw ins don't require too much modding so fair

[harsh dove]

Yeah lol

[quiet bay]

I ruined my enter key stabs because the enter key still had hot glue on it and it dripped into the stabs 🗿

[harsh dove]

Here's KS20u in the Salvation

[quiet bay]

so now I'm just using my broken enter key (side stems broke) without stabs

[harsh dove]

I think these are plate mount stabs in this one

[harsh dove]

Damn

[quiet bay]

I think this one has the least amount of that signature he sound which is pretty good

[harsh dove]

Lol someone else said it sounds like a regular keyboard

idk if that was a good or bad thing

[quiet bay]

almost 👀

[quiet bay]

maybe good? cause mechanical switches def sound better than he switches

[harsh dove]

Right yeah

I didn't know if he meant regular as in walmart keyboard or like regular custom sounding board

[brave lagoon]

Do I need to lube the stabilizers too or the springs? Or is it optional

[harsh dove]

Lastly, KS20u x Alumaze @quiet bay

[agile grove]

lubing anything is optional, but if you want the board to sound "better" then you should

[brave lagoon]

Ok

[median spade]

I luckily stayed on top but spent so much

FInally sold 11 boards back in november that were in my closet for almost 2 years

[quiet bay]

This one’s leaning to a thockier sound 👀

[harsh dove]

Lol yeah

[quiet bay]

I like the sound of alumaze better but the feel on the salvation is probably way nicer 🤔

[quiet bay]

I usually like deeper sounding keyboards anyway so its subjective

[harsh dove]

Yeah I prefer them in the Alumaze but I like rocking the Salvation

[quiet bay]

I would rock the Salvation too because of its clean thicc sides 🤤

[median spade]

Pause

I really like the alumaze case but can't stand the minute you add the foam or any sound dampening it raises assempbly up and you can see bottom of keycaps/top of switches

[harsh dove]

This bothered me too

[median spade]

It's my biggest gripe with a lot of cases out there

they design with sound dampening but then not the space it feels so makes the assembly go up

[harsh dove]

I’m sure you can guess which is which

[median spade]

[quiet bay]

Uhhhh 🗿

[median spade]

Yeah exactly that lol

the cost of sound in this case

[quiet bay]

yeah..gummy o ring mount and that polyfill on top of stock foam

rises it up alot

[harsh dove]

Yeah lol

Looks like when someone has braces and they smile

That’s how the alumaze makes it look

[quiet bay]

tbh I don't mind it as long as it doesn't look like a apex pro mini

[harsh dove]

True

[fluid ravine]

The uneveness on how the caps sit on the switch 😭

[fluid ravine]

Wait that's insanely (being dramatic) high

[quiet bay]

All for the sake of sound 🙏

[fluid ravine]

Fr

And the death of the keeb

Jk

(͡°͜ʖ͡°)

Bout to do recordings for my team camp skit

Gotta luv skool

[quiet bay]

My usb port XD

maybe I can attempt to make it lower

[quiet bay]

I swear everyday you have school .-.

[fluid ravine]

I do lmao

[quiet bay]

rip 🙏

[quiet bay]

im lucky my klippe t has a big cutout for my usb lol

[fluid ravine]

Fr

Imagine u have a redux and that happens 😅

[thick mural]

thats rough, my pcb is centred perfectly on my fjell with oring mount and 2 layers of foam

[quiet bay]

wth

how the hell

oh well

the height doesn't bother me anyways

[polar girder]

Now I have to run home and take a picture of my port

[quiet bay]

Found pictures before I did gummy mount and switch tape mod o.o

It’s alot lower alright LMAO

I think it's mainly the gummy mount that's adding height

the polyfill didn't do much

[raw mortar]

hi guys, I read some comments explaining that the tofu redux case attracts a lot of fingerprints, is this true? I was more suited for a generic anodized black but at this point I would focus more on an e-coating meteorite gray if is really true.

[stray tiger]

They do pick-up fingerprints pretty easily. If you want to reduce them, that's a good idea.

[bitter valve]

Surprisingly just noticed that my enter is semi-wobbly with jades and default screw-in, space bar is okay so I don’t understand stupid ali keycaps 😂

[bitter valve]

Meteorite gray - no fingerprints observed so far

[obsidian dagger]

the fancy setup with the rando plastic bottle is a vibe

[quiet bay]

Gotta stay hydrated

[obsidian dagger]

it's just that it's not dripped out like the rest

[shrewd dragon]

seeing this pics im tempted to put the module barebone no foam no nothing directly into the case

[knotty canyon]

poron over silicone for the module?

[median spade]

all preference

use both and see what you like

[knotty canyon]

true just seeing ppls opinion. I wish i could test them but im still waiting for my tofu 60 redux to come in 😦

i just want ti finally put my wooting together LOL

[median spade]

silicone is more muted but also makes the sound higher pitched

foam is deeper

[quiet bay]

I don't have module but I use poron

[median spade]

I use the silicone if I do use one as I prefer the sound of it

[quiet bay]

for deeper sound and also because gummy mount can't fit with silicone because it's too stiff

[knotty canyon]

from sound test i think i prefer poron but i stilll want to test both

[quiet bay]

lmao tbh when I first received my wooting I didn't even test drive it first

I just went straight to modding

[median spade]

poron is more "foamy" sounding and silicone is cleaner if I had to describe

[quiet bay]

My wooting is so close to a creamy mechanical keyboard sound 👀

[median spade]

did you already try pe foam

[quiet bay]

I did a long time ago

[knotty canyon]

sound test?

[quiet bay]

but the one I got

was too thicc

[median spade]

makes sense

[quiet bay]

so it interfered with the switches

[median spade]

ive been satisfied ever since i lubed the top housing of myu jades

[quiet bay]

mic was pretty close to keyboard

[median spade]

gave up on any nicer case for my wooting and just threw it back into my tofu

[quiet bay]

buying another aluminum case would burn my wallet

klippe t is nice enough for me 😂

[median spade]

On the brightside I like the salvation a lot for mech switches so Im ade a build in it

glad I only paid $140 lol

[knotty canyon]

ooooooo

[quiet bay]

lucky deal

[median spade]

is there a reason you did klippe and not tofu btw?

[quiet bay]

Well uh
Tofu Redux wasn't a thing at the time

[median spade]

I like klippe back when internal weight tofu didn't exist but I think the redux is a lot better now

Ah

[quiet bay]

Tofu v1 was gone

[median spade]

yep that was what I was guessing haha

[quiet bay]

and I liked the klippe t in general

also I don't know if my usb would fit in the tofu redux now lmao

[median spade]

Of all the boards Iv'e had (too many) my klippe T with silent linears back in the day was siltl one of my faves

fair point

[brave lagoon]

@median spade @quiet bay do u guys have any recommendations on what lube I should use for my springs and stabilizer

I already got a lube for my switches

[lapis stump]

Hand lubed jades sound very nice

Only took about 2hr 15 for a batch of 70 no regrets

[median spade]

i use gpl 106 fo rmy springs but you can use super lube off amazon and then dielectric grease for stabilizer

[median spade]

did you do top housing too? made a world of difference when i did

[lapis stump]

not i didnt . I did get a coat on the whole stem with 205 and then bag lubed the springs with 105

it technically should cover the housing too if you go all around the stem imo, but if youre that meticulous about it, its already pretty different

cause the default factory lube only has it on the rails

[median spade]

yeah i was trying to solve the HE rattle/upstroke sound

and that did it for me

i normally never touch top housing when lubing switches as it's too much most times but this one time i was my savior

[wide kraken]

wonder if the dual rails on the KS-20U more or less solve the rattle? can't really hear the rattle in audio samples that I've seen but could just not be picked up

[lapis stump]

the thing with video recordings, i dont hear as much of the pinginess and rattle on my videos but in person its very apparent. I d imagine if i do another sound test with my lubed jades the video probably dont do it much justice esp with a phone mic

[median spade]

it is still there as confirmed by cam

[wide kraken]

ah dang

[median spade]

a lot of it is the cheap ass top housing that gateron is using on these switches

its the pc top housing from their budget mech switches it drives me nuts

sounds awful on those ones too btw

but it's clear and good for rgb which most of the population getting into HE are gamers and do not care about sound

[median spade]

yeah need a decent condensor mic to show it well

my mic picks it up when i was testing the salvation and such

[quiet bay]

I used 205g0 to lube my switch and springs
I used molykote from wooting to lube my stab wires and used 205g0 for the stem and housing of the stabs

[lapis stump]

just recorded with my blue snowball

[median spade]

Sounds good

What case do you have it in

[lapis stump]

tofu acrylic with brass weight, and i used the wooting case foam + gummy oring 40A

[stray tiger]

Killer sunset today.

[lapis stump]

where is that

[stray tiger]

Utah

[bitter valve]

What a view

Anyone have a suggestion for long-pole screw-in stabs that are compatible with pc plate?

[stray tiger]

Cam said the TX AP ones worked for him but a few others have said they dont.

[bitter valve]

I tried their clip-in, didn’t work for me

You think it might be worth trying their screw-ins?

I would assume the housings would be pretty similar

[stray tiger]

There arent a lot of choices for long pole stabs so its slim picking

[bitter valve]

Yeah, oh well, might try tx ap again, just to be sure, because with current feel of enter and shift, I’m tempted to just put a lekker there

[true patrol]

I'm a little confused, how would screw-ins not be compatible with a plate? are the holes just not large enough?

I'd probably just file them if that's the case

[median spade]

Man was not expecting to see random west lake

[stray tiger]

shhh

[median spade]

Miss Utah as I’m out East for the next year and half still

[stray tiger]

Were trying to keep Utah a secret

Go to Colorado

[median spade]

Oh I know

I grew up in Utah my whole life haha

But we are moving to Colorado next actually funny enough

More North tho is where I was

[stray tiger]

North of SLC or north of Utah county?

[median spade]

Both in my time

I lived in Ogden, Layton, Bountiful, SLC, and Draper/Herriman before I moved

[stray tiger]

All nice places

Well maybe not Herriman, I dont like that area lol

[wide kraken]

when you did the top housing did you do the whole perimeter around the stem or just the rail? so far (albeit only 5) feels like the whole perimeter is needed for handling rattle
(although i'm still on the lekkers)

[median spade]

Didn’t mind it but yeah it was out there and Bangerter sucks lol

[median spade]

Every face on top housing

[bitter valve]

Well, I would prefer something that doesn't require sanding.

[true patrol]

That's fair, but all mx stabs are the same size, so if one type doesn't fit, it's not because that type is special. it's because the tolerances on the hole are just slightly off and should probably be sanded anyway

[blazing heart]

Ive never modded a keyboard before but I am wondering if itd be possible to make a Wooting sound like this?

Imho ive never heard a more soothing keyboard. I love this so much

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NgKJIMyz9kI&t=268s

Maybe all Id have to do is add the keycaps to the Wooting for that sound demonstrated in the above video?

https://www.cerakey.com/products/full-set-v2

[wide kraken]

before spending $150 on ceramic caps, consider lubing lol

[glacial wind]

Not really possible for now due to switch limitations

You can get a wooting more thocky though, but it won’t quite reach that level

[true patrol]

lubing is a good idea, but it doesn't change the sound very much

[blazing heart]

oh ok, well, Ill try lubing thx

do u all lube the keyboard when its brand new out of the box? Thought it comes pre lubed

[true patrol]

factory lube usually isn't super consistent (on many switches, I do not mean that as a dig at wooting or gateron who makes the stock switches)

and there's some tuning you can do based on how much you use

[blazing heart]

gotcha, ya, I recently watched a video from Wootings youtube channel where they go into detail about lubing and I remember they suggested the quantity of lube application depends on what youre going for iirc

Looks easy enough I shouldnt fk it up, thx

[quiet bay]

To get that sound? It would require alot of tuning and experimenting tbh

and also with lekkers? well uhh unless you do a time consuming mod with them it won't sound nearly as good as that

because if you think about it cerakeys will only make the sound deeper

it won't make the signature he sound disappear by itself

[quiet bay]

forgot to say that this will also be hard to come close to as they are different layouts

[median spade]

Maybe HE will sound that good one day (probably never)

[tawdry tree]

Yes, the holes are too tight for Staebies and TX’s AP PCB Mounted stabilizers to fit properly. Sanding or cutting the hole wider resolves the issue. The reason some experience the issue and other don’t is to do with the PC deforming. If the PC doesn’t deform, the stabilizer housing will be forced at an angle causing friction between its stem and housing. The more it deforms the less friction there will be to a point where it’s not noticeable. Also, the more room a stabilizer stem has in its housing the less deformation is required to make them functional. 👍

https://discord.com/channels/167181566978555904/1202064549092794378

[tawdry tree]

The plate was designed with plate mounted stabilizers in mind, not PCB mounted stabilizers. The plate is both for the 60HE and 60HE+ so I presume they wanted the plate mounted stabilizers to fit tightly at the cost of other PCB mounted stabilizers.

[true patrol]

should probably tag the people who asked the questions instead of me who knows this, but it’s good knowledge nonetheless

[brave lagoon]

Yo

Are u talking about these?

@quiet bay

[quiet bay]

Ye 205g0

[brave lagoon]

It only says switch lubricants tho

Is it also used for lubing springs?

Or stabilizers?

[quiet bay]

Yeah you can lube springs with it

[quiet bay]

Also possible

[brave lagoon]

Ohhhh

So I don’t need to buy any more lube then

[quiet bay]

It gives you options

[brave lagoon]

Cuz I just ordered that one

[quiet bay]

Not really, it is recommended to have thicker lube for stab wires but some people do prefer it with 205g0

[brave lagoon]

Okay

I’ll just use the one I ordered them

For all my switches and springs and stabilizers

[quiet bay]

overall just personal preference

[indigo oasis]

none of them got damage

[quiet bay]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-thumbs-up-cat-thumbs-up-meme-stock-image-gif-27117830

[grim steppe]

Long pole screw-in stabs are better with Jades?

Than common screw-in stabs

[wheat loom]

Seeing all the messages in this channel I'm really not sure about whether I should go with the Raptors or the Jades. I like it thockier. I have the tofu redux with foam+tape+o-ring mount. Any advice?

[tired girder]

Does anyone know a good website for keycaps?

Or like brand or wtver

[marble shuttle]

Aliexpress

👍

[hot raven]

today i receive my gmk WOB

and i just need to wait my tofu 60 redux and raptor he switch and mod my keyboard and finish

[marble shuttle]

Nice

[grim steppe]

https://divinikey.com/products/gateron-ink-v2-stabilizers-screw-in
Is it a good option for wooting 60he+?

[quasi topaz]

sounds not lubed

[grand hill]

what is involved in getting a new case for a wooting?

maybe lube more idk

[bronze grove]

Finding one that fits, buying it and swapping it.

[quasi topaz]

bruh

idk how to screenshot or what

[bronze grove]

https://wooting-technologies.notion.site/de7a52e2b5a941258a17e448b0c9d9b0?v=5ec0b31c59db4a51b8a86a1288249e9f
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PsRcYxZgBCo

[quasi topaz]

someone too shy to say it here said that

[grand hill]

does it make it souind better

and is there a way to do it cheaply or nahb

[indigo oasis]

huh

that dont even make sense but alr

[quasi topaz]

not my words

[indigo oasis]

wdym by that "someone too shy to say it here said that"

[quasi topaz]

my screnshot is from my dms

someone saw that screenshoted your msg and sent that to me

[indigo oasis]

what waws their point of ssing my messasge'

💀

[quasi topaz]

LMAO

[hot raven]

lil bro is too shy ><

[quasi topaz]

fr

congrats for your 100pp play

[hot raven]

thx thx ><

[true patrol]

Did you only lube the housings, or did you put some additional grease on the wire?

Usually you want to add some dialectic grease or similar to the wire, just enough that it stops rattling. Add a little bit at a time so you don’t add too much (the stab will get slow and mushy if there’s too much). A small flat-tip needle on a syringe can be useful for adding more since you can get it down inside the housing without taking the whole thing apart

[meager pine]

Yeah and also you can get plate mounted stabs to sound as good as screw in stabs, it’s just tuning stabs takes time and patience

[rotund frost]

how many layers of tape should i put on my woot

[agile grove]

1-3

[lapis stump]

i took off my tape after lubing my jades, so marbly without it

[quasi topaz]

0

because tape mod is overrated

[untold wigeon]

Is it worth to lube the jades?

Or is factory lube already rlly good

[stray tiger]

Factory lube is good and hand lube is even better

[wispy thistle]

i saw a reddit post about just lubing the stems is that true?

[teal hornet]

Does anyone know if it is worth it to get a PC or POM plate for the 60HE? I think the current metal plate really isn't that bad, but would PC or POM have a deeper quieter sound? Also, how do I make some keys not sound so loud and clacky compared to the rest? My A key is clacking a lot more than the other keys.

[quiet bay]

PC would lead to a deeper sound

[quiet bay]

different parts of the keyboard = different sound
also could be that the lube is inconsistent

most likely the lube being the case

[teal hornet]

I had a keyboard with a PC plate using Gateron Pro Yellow switches and it sounded a lot more poppy and less dense than what the 60HE sounds like? Maybe it was the case playing a part into the sound.

[quiet bay]

depends on the foam, switches, and case being used pretty much

even the keycaps play a part

[teal hornet]

Do you know what else I can do to make it sound deeper? Maybe some tape on the bottom of the PCB? And the space bar does rattle a bit, so I did the band-aid mod, but it didn't seem to do too much to fix the ping and rattle; that might have to do with the metal plate though.

[quiet bay]

I would check if the wire is balanced first since the spacebar wire is the most susceptible to bending

[untold wigeon]

Anyone know if there is a video I can hear of the stock vs lubed jades

[teal hornet]

There's a post on Reddit about that. The lubed Jades really don't sound too much better than stock. The Lekkers actually sounded a lot better lubed and filmed.

[quiet bay]

Here

@untold wigeon

That one is lubed, and then scroll down you'll see unlubed jades

[untold wigeon]

Ty!

Do you know what plate and foam is being used?

[quiet bay]

I forgot

I think he's using a pc plate tho

[stray tiger]

If youre opening them up to lube, lube the springs, top housing, stems and rails.

[quiet bay]

not even lubing the springs is crazy o.o

[teal hornet]

If I were to add film to my Lekker switches, what would be the best thickness?

[untold wigeon]

Hi Cam, Are you using any foam or tape?

[fluid ravine]

Don't recommend, waste of money and time

[teal hornet]

Is lubing them even worth it?

[fluid ravine]

What switches?

[teal hornet]

Lekker

[fluid ravine]

I mean hand lubing will always be much better than factory lubing as you know how much consistency you will be applying on the switc

So yes lubing is worth it

[teal hornet]

Alright. But what I really want to fix is my space bar rattle. Do you know a good way to fix that, or is it just the plate mount stabilizers limiting it?

[quiet bay]

It will tighten top housing, but depending on what material it is, it might make it clackier in my case

[teal hornet]

I see

[quiet bay]

(I used tx films but dont use them anymore)

[wispy thistle]

i thought it was because the factory lube was good enough already or something.

[quiet bay]

tbh I’d say factory lube is kinda inconsistent

[wispy thistle]

https://divinikey.com/products/tx-ap-stabilizers-rev-4?variant=40406837461057 is this the stabs everyone recommends?

[quiet bay]

Recommended to have the screw in version since it has better tolerances and less mods required

[wispy thistle]

ok ty

[quiet bay]

idk if it works with gummy mount tho if someone else can clarify that

[teal hornet]

But only the 60HE+ keyboards support screw in stabs right? I have a regular 60HE, but could I just get a plate with screw in stab support and get stabilizers, or would that not work?

[bronze grove]

Would not work.

[quiet bay]

Im assuming that he has the screw in support and now I should probably ask

[bronze grove]

They mount into the PCB, not the plate. That's why plate mounted stabs are called that. Screw in and clip in rely on the PCB having mounts for it.

[teal hornet]

Oh yeah, right.

[quiet bay]

You do have the 60He+ right?

[wispy thistle]

yea thats what im getting

[quiet bay]

alr good then the stabs will work

[wispy thistle]

here is a comment i saw on youtube about the gummy o ring mount/

personally the switch pads dont really do anything, some of the other community modder agrees that they cant even tell what difference it makes but we pretty much just leave it in. (although i recently took it out after swapping to the he+ module, since i saw the switch pad being mashed in between the switches and pcb

as for the stab pads, usually we dont mod stabilizers in the way whereby "if they ain't broken, dont fix it" so yeah, the he+ module screw in stabs feel really good and i dont think they need any fixing.

for the gummy oring friction mount, you are still able to oring mount it, you're only required to swap out the backspace and spacebar stabs. personally im running tx-ap clip-ins on the he+ module while the spacebar is the stock screw-in and it works for me. (im on the tofu redux) -gravity test and it doesnt fall out too.

so i think he used the clip ins. but if i use the screw ins i can use those stabs for everythihng including space bar ?

the screw in one?

[quiet bay]

Yeah

BUT

i dont know if its compatible with gummy mount

is the real question

[wispy thistle]

ohh

but the stock screw in one is compatible with the gummy o ring mount?

since tthats what he did

[quiet bay]

idk, I dont have screw in support

let me ping someone else since I think he tested

@harsh dove

[quiet bay]

looks like he only did it on the spacebar

I do wish I had screw in support to test ;-;

[wispy thistle]

right he only did on spacebar and backspace. but we are not sure if we do screw in for everything the o ring mount will work got it thanks.

[polar girder]

I thought he said full screw in gummy mount worked for him

I could be tripping

With that new Small Ring

I intend to try it out when I find the time to swap these screw-ins to the black pc plate ☠️

Also have to lube and tune them which I’ve never done so I’m sort of scared/avoiding it lol

[wispy thistle]

@quiet bay whats is molykote tape?

[quiet bay]

moleskin

tape

[wispy thistle]

oh got it

thanks

[quiet bay]

I said molykote tape on accident once before 😂

[wispy thistle]

yea i was going back in the history lol

thanks

[quiet bay]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UhIiCmxtMmA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tkD57ODLY8I

[harsh dove]

The Small O Rings from Graveshift work with Screw Ins

Don't need any clip ins

I will say it varies from case to case though

I got it to work on the Alumaze

But doesn't mean it guaranteed to work on the Tofu or an Acrylic case, etc

[stray tiger]

This is a great video from the modding FAQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vxHb6CJc9V8

[harsh dove]

In that video, no foam, 1 layer moleskin tape

[stray tiger]

@quiet bay I use this video instead of others because things like clipping legs arent needed/possible on the Wooting stabs and most current stabilizers and bandaids are inconsistent at times. A good proper lube is the way to go.

[lapis stump]

did you use the moleskin instead of painters tape?

[harsh dove]

Yeah

[quiet bay]

ah ok

👍

[wispy thistle]

like the 40a is small enough?

[harsh dove]

40A is just hardness level, not size

[wispy thistle]

ohh

lol

[harsh dove]

If you're using Screw In Stabs you want S Ring, if you're using Clips Ins or Plate Mount, you want M Ring

S = Small, M = Medium, 30A - 70A is hardness levels

I use a 40A

[wispy thistle]

does it matter which hardness level?

ok thanks

[harsh dove]

Not really , its recommended to use between 30 - 50A but Ive seen some used higher and I've tested 55A and 65A and they worked fine, just really stiff

Some want a specific color so they end up going for higher hardness but I prefer 40A like I said

[median spade]

embrace tray mount and disregard fake gummy oring

[stray tiger]

Anyone who says friction mount doesnt reduce tray mount dead spots, isnt listening close enough. Like Tenturo says, it's not true gummy mount and it wont feel like it, but it does provide benefits.

[harsh dove]

Provides enough benefits to be worth it, especially since it's a $5 mod and takes less than 5 minutes to do

vs something like Switch Tape Mod which is also cheap monetarily but not cheap in terms of your sanity

[median spade]

sanity is gone after doing it

I did 4 of them on my l60 and was like no way

[harsh dove]

lmao

[stray tiger]

I didnt even do 1, I already knew it wasnt going to be my thing. It does make a big difference though.

[median spade]

the difference is big from teh sound tests in here of people showing them

gets rid of the rattle noise and stem wobble

but man the mod itself so laborous and annoying

[agile grove]

at that point just get ks-20us

[stray tiger]

Yes but, hear me out. Sometimes time is more available than money.

[agile grove]

that fair

but also

sometimes sanity is more important than time

[stray tiger]

I think I'll stream this evening and swap out some lubed and filmed L60's for some KS-20T's in a custom top mount case with an aluminum plate to see how much it improves the sound.

[harsh dove]

This

But at the time no other switch was out

So Switch Tape Mod was people's desperation mod

I know cause I did it

[harsh dove]

This too

Sometimes

Cause time is money

[harsh dove]

Finally gonna use the Jades?

[stray tiger]

Yeah, going to just try them in one of my custom cases with aftermarket plates since the alumaze build is delayed hehe

[harsh dove]

New set or they get returned to you?

[stray tiger]

New set

[harsh dove]

Noice

[stray tiger]

I wont get the first one back for a few weeks Im sure.

[median spade]

custom top mount case

[harsh dove]

Lmk what you think of factory lube, if you're streaming, I'll just ask ya there

[median spade]

what case are we talking here

[harsh dove]

Custom bro

lol

[median spade]

yeah I know

I was just curious of the design and such

[harsh dove]

https://tenor.com/view/approach-cat-curious-hello-gif-17103376215886393143

[stray tiger]

Sirius60

[median spade]

oh man that's a board i have not heard in a long time

I had one myself and it was p good

too bad project keyboard big scammer now

[harsh dove]

Never had one but seemed like a good board

[stray tiger]

I ALMOSt bought a POM version I saw on MM a while back but decided to pass. It was an impulse buy just to compare to mine

[harsh dove]

Yeah I like the look of that one

[median spade]

the typing experience was the flexiest top mount ive ever used/seen

[quiet bay]

lmao I redid it twice 🤣

[sharp yew]

i think im good on friction mount on tofu

I have no idea what they were thinking on that usb port

[quiet bay]

ig they weren't expecting a friction mount

[median spade]

Like look at that

[quiet bay]

:OOOO

I want to type on that

[stray tiger]

Mine was originally built with the aluminum plate. It wasnt that flexy but I liked the sound, so I went with an aluminum plate for it with the Wooting and honestly, it sounds like ass. Hoping the Jades are the ticket.

[median spade]

yeah the alu plate in my frog and he turned out p bad

so i went back to pom with it

I didn't have jades either but hoepfuly they are the savior

[stray tiger]

You know what. I still have a 3D printed wooting plate for the frog, maybe I'll give that a try one day to fill in some stream time

This channel needs a bit of cuteness

7 month old grandson

[cyan adder]

so cute

remind me of my daughter few months ago

she s 2 now ahah

[median spade]

cute pictures

and grandson oh man you ancient amirite /s

[stray tiger]

2-12 are awesome ages for a girl

They dont call me the Thockfather for nothing 😆

[cyan adder]

yeah still cute ahah

[stray tiger]

@harsh dove when I get some free time should I snag the stems out of those old L60's I pulled the other night and put them in some Raptors?

Might still be a fun project just for a comparison

[harsh dove]

I'm assuming you have not tried it yet, right?

[stray tiger]

havent even opened the raptors. Was saving all of that stuff for months lol

[harsh dove]

I'd definitely try it, I just personally didn't like the friction feel

[stray tiger]

These 60's are very broken in though and my buddy has an actuation machine I can use (well he will do it for me)

[harsh dove]

Oh okay, might not be as much friction then? I'm not too sure

You'll definitely have to let me know what you think

Try the raptors stock first and compare them to lekkers tho

[stray tiger]

Will do.

BTW was able to test streaming to youtube in 4k yesterday and it worked fine but there are some challenges.

[harsh dove]

Without the black bars?

lol

[stray tiger]

The bitrate, encoder, resolution, audio, etc are universal to OBS so if I want to stream to youtube one day and then twitch the next, I have to redo all my settings. If I try to stream a 51k bitrate, 4k feed to twitch it doesnt work. Even if I use a restream plugin in OBS, I cant configure the stream output settings seprately per service.

[median spade]

They’re good but if you have break in Machine do that

Or access to one

[stray tiger]

The only option is a restream service and they dont support 4k

[harsh dove]

Right cause twitch won't allow 4K, correct?

[stray tiger]

So Im guessing I need to record in 4k to post to youtube later, streeam in 1080p for twitch OR just stream 1080p 60 to both for now.

[stray tiger]

Correct. its coming and is in beta, but not available yet

BUT the 4k to youtube looked good. I may do that tonight for the Sirius 60 switch swap just to see

[harsh dove]

Yeah, I kinda wanna see the 4K YT lol but I know some people will stream on Twitch and then also record/make their YT vids during the live stream, but in terms of Multistreaming, I'm not sure if you'd just prioritze YT for the 4k, then restream to Twitch? If that's what you're trying to do idk

[stray tiger]

But when I test streamed CS2, which is 1440p, it didnt look great stretched to 4k and at 30fps.

[harsh dove]

Yeah I had mine stretched when I was testing at one point and didn't like it lol

[stray tiger]

There are no 4k restreaming services and I cant do it in OBS with different settings so I "think" the only people multi-streaming to different platforms are doing it in 1080p and then just doing video on demand for 4k youtube content

[harsh dove]

Yeah, I figured they just do it in 1080p cause I knew there weren't any 4k restreaming services (That I know of)

[sharp yew]

just realized you can remove tofu's little port hole

we are so back

[harsh dove]

I know one of the Tarkov streamers I watch does like 936p60fps (and he multistreams to Twitch and YT)

cause apparently that's best for tarkov lol

[sharp yew]

that game looks like it obliterates bitrate

[stray tiger]

My brother loves Tarkov lol. He gets so tlted though lol

[median spade]

I played tarkov for 20 minutes back in 2019, and was tilting enough in those 20 mins i never played again

[harsh dove]

Yeah it’s a very rough start

And the game doesn’t teach you anything

[median spade]

It was more just it's too slow paced gameplay

and getting one shot from somwhere was also fun

[harsh dove]

lol yeah that’s the best part

[polar girder]

lol Cam over here embracing the tilt

Rare breed

[median spade]

games that are too slow like that just make me nauseous

feels like im in sludge

[stray tiger]

Ive been debating playing Helldivers but I started Last Epoch over the weekend and Im a little hooked

[lapis stump]

LE is great, 1.0 coming out wednesday, one of my favorite ARPGs

[bitter valve]

Yo Cam

Have you tried tx ap screw-in stabs or only clip-in?

[harsh dove]

Helldivers is great , I’ve been thinking of trying LE again too

[harsh dove]

Both

[bitter valve]

How’s the housing on the screw-ins? By any chance a bit smaller than on clip-ins?

My 2Us are rocking left and right, so I gotta get a long poles, unfortunately

[harsh dove]

Housing was the same tbh

At least to my eye

Both worked fine for me tho

[bitter valve]

Gotcha, well, going to try anyway, and see if any destructive changes required

[bitter valve]

Yeah, the clip-ins were not compatible with my pc plate, so gonna test screw-ins

[glossy pagoda]

Add me on steam if you do play Helldivers, I've been enjoying it 😄

[stray tiger]

Shit now I have to try it lol

[grand hill]

Guys im getting some lube and a switch opener from a friend today :)

[old swallow]

@stray tiger sorry for ping, but i just had a quick question. do you still have PBTfans Resonance on a board, cause i remember talking to you about it quite a bit back, and i believe you were gonna put it on one. so if you do, could you send a pic of the build?

[stray tiger]

I still have the set but don't think I have it on a board atm. Coincidentally I was going to pull it out this week and compare it to GMK Deepfield which should be here today or tomorrow

[old swallow]

aah alright, i just think its a dope looking set, kinda want to get it, dont know if i can lol, since GB ended, theyre doing a R2, but thats a light mode version of it pretty much. Anyways, but then i remember talking to you about it, so i figured i would shoot you a message, since i dont know if i ever saw the finished build on it

[stray tiger]

If I throw it on a board Ill take a photo and shoot you a DM

[old swallow]

alright, that would be awesome. (after you do that, ship the board to me? 😜 )

[stray tiger]

This is worth checking out if you really like that set. Its not exact but might be close enough to scratch the itch https://thekeymachine.com/products/001 plus it comes with the novelties and accent and there are only 250 sets being sold ever

[old swallow]

i apreciate it, but ive seen the set before, and the colour scheme is not exactly what im looking for

[vague socket]

Hi for those that have done the burger mount mod to the wooting does it make any difference to the sound and the typing feel

[quiet bay]

In stock case it doesn't really do much to the sound and typing feel is barely changed as it will still be pretty stiff

[untold wigeon]

alumaze case? worth to do it?

[bitter valve]

Will reduce metallic ping if it’s there

[untold wigeon]

so its worth then

[quiet bay]

tbh I'd say go gummy mount since it's less painful and agonizing to do

but you can def try both as they are cheap mods

[bitter valve]

Is it achievable in alumaze tho?

[quiet bay]

then choose which one you like better

[quiet bay]

yeah pretty sure it is

[bitter valve]

Cool, didn’t know that

[thick mural]

greatest game of all time

[bitter valve]

The ducky’s cable tie is just too cute

[sharp yew]

hopefully yours dont start chattering

my ducky had issues

[bitter valve]

I hate my ducky😂

Well, it’s still pretty decent, but I swapped to wooting and really enjoying it so far

Just thew ducky’s cable at work, so I don’t have to worry about bringing the cable

[quiet bay]

Ducky cable cool, ducky keyboard bad

ngl I want to make my own switch break in machine....

tho I don't have a 3d printer and the knowledge to do it LMAO

would be a cool little project

[bitter valve]

Use a piece of plastic

Just lay flat and press on, should actuate every switch

[quiet bay]

well ye but like automatic o.o

[bitter valve]

Oh well, over engineering 😂

[quiet bay]

I mean how do you think some switches come out so smooth stock >:VVVV

[bitter valve]

I understand this shit on factories, don’t get me wrong

But for personal use..?

[quiet bay]

well aint no one doing all those actuations manually for 60+ switches

and it will require ten thousands of actuations

[bitter valve]

2h job, probably 😂

I pressed my space bar at least that amount while working on the stabs😂

[timber crystal]

Yo! I got a 60 HE a while ago and I've been loving it, its fantastic. I just ordered one of the detachable cable sets and I'm just curious, what do people use the detachable cable to hotswap between? I don't think I have any devices that could utilize that just yet

[bitter valve]

I don’t think people actually swap them around. Majority just uses custom cables for the looks

[timber crystal]

Mkay that's what I had figured, I wanted to make sure i wasn't missing anything

[normal schooner]

yes and more colours for keycaps cables and wrist rests are comming out soon

[bitter valve]

There might be use cases for that, but I’m not aware, unfortunately

[gleaming crane]

Any confirmed colors for the cables?

[quiet bay]

#📦│batch_updates message

[gleaming crane]

FIRE COLOR SELECTION😭

[indigo oasis]

I did both

[true patrol]

@timber crystal @bitter valve most of my use for connector cables was to switch between different boards that had different usb connectors (mainly mini-usb and usb-c)

but since then I’ve started using the magnetic end ones so I can swap between keyboards, charge controllers, charge my mouse, etc

[bitter valve]

Yeah, that’s fair

[true patrol]

Although the magnetic ends are more to save on port wear/tear than they are to allow using the same cable

[gleaming crane]

Has anyone used the graveshift s-o ring with screw ins on the tofu redux?

Wondering if it’s worth or if I should just stick to plate mount

[timber crystal]

To charge controllers is genius

[stray tiger]

I've seen 1 or 2 people mention it was very tight on the redux but possible. Proceed accordingly

[harsh dove]

I've only tested it on the Alumaze and worked fine, idk how well it'll work with Redux, case tolerances can vary

[gleaming crane]

Hm

[gleaming crane]

Do you know the hardness of the o rings they had?

[polar girder]

Seems like it may work but not flawless fit

I have a 40a small but haven’t tested with the module in the redux yet

Need to swap stabs first

[gleaming crane]

Oo okie, definitely update us when you do

[lapis stump]

it works fine without the poron foam, and i had to change the spacebar stabilizers to plate mount but the other screw in stabs were fine

[untold wigeon]

a

[gleaming crane]

Im curious to know if the hardness will affect the install

[quiet bay]

@stray tiger What camera do you use to record above your desk? And are you using its mic to show the keyboard sound?

cause it's really nice

[stray tiger]

The one pointing down right?

[quiet bay]

oh damn that's one crazy setup lol
but yeah

[stray tiger]

Its a Sony ZV-1. I think its Sony cheapest 4k camera and it runs through a 4k capture card into OBS. I dont use the camera mic. The mic you see attached to it is a Sennheiser MKE 600 that runs through an audio interface.

[quiet bay]

Ok damn that's an expensive setup

I do want to make videos but

no idea what camera

[stray tiger]

Nothjing but the best for you guys! (ok not close to the best but better than average).

[stray tiger]

You do NOT need a 4k camera. If I started over, I wouldnt do it either. All sorts of streaming issues. 1080p is perfectly fine

[quiet bay]

any recommendations 👀

[stray tiger]

Im only familiar with Sony cameras so Im not a lot of help there. If you just want a good overhead camera, even solid webcam would be perfect, like the Logitech ones

[quiet bay]

Hmm alright I'll search for some, ty 🙂

[stray tiger]

Im going to start a youtube stream here in about 30min to test out the 4k streaming if youre still around

[quiet bay]

ofc will be hopping in if i'm available

[harsh dove]

Check out Senpai Gaming aka Harris Heller

for streaming gear

[quiet bay]

ooh ok I'll check that out too

[wide kraken]

does the power-on calibration happen per-switch or across the board? (i.e. can you mix switches with different travel length and flux strength like jades and ks-20u on the same board?)

[quiet bay]

pretty sure that's possible

as the magic happens in the pcb and not the switch

since the switch just holds the magnet

so the pcb detects the magnet

[wide kraken]

ye, but if the magnets have different strengths?

[quiet bay]

should be fine

it will detect the magnet

if you're skeptical you can probably just buy a few switches and try it out

[wide kraken]

true, they do have a 10 switch pack

[stray tiger]

As long as the magnetic strength is within roughly10% of the sensor limits, you're fine to mix and match switches. Not all magnets are equal, even with the same switches.

[wide kraken]

alrighty

figured since i'm undecided between the jades and ks-20u, they're sold in 70-packs, and I need 108 for a Two HE, might as well just get one pack of each lol

[stray tiger]

@quiet bay https://www.youtube.com/@thethockfather/streams or anyone else who wants to help me test 4k streaming and hang out while I swap some Jades into a custom Sirius 60 board

[wispy thistle]

do i get 1.6 tx ap screw in stabs?

[harsh dove]

Yes

Just know they won't work with the wooting steel plate, and can have possible fitment issues with the PC Plate @wispy thistle

I got mine to work fine, but few others had issues getting them to fit

[wispy thistle]

im using the pc plate. so that would be like a defect in my personal plate if its not fitting?

[harsh dove]

Not a defect, the plates are fine. The TX AP Screw Ins and Clip Ins have thicker housings than the Plate Mount ones, so they can cause issues with the stab not returning

Like I said, I've tested all 3 and got them to work fine

[grand hill]

what do i do iof i overlubed a keyboard?

[wide kraken]

just open em back up and brush/wipe off the excess

and don't get lint on em when wiping or that'll just make it even worse

[grand hill]

bro

open all of them back up?

that took like 5 hours bro

[wide kraken]

shoulda tested as you went ¯_(ツ)_/¯

not much else you can do

[grand hill]

bro i did test it and it seemed fine but i guess not

if i just like leave it for a few days will it get better or nah

[gleaming crane]

You can just spam the overlubed keys until everything has settled

[grand hill]

really?

thats what i wanted to do but one of my friends said nah

[gleaming crane]

It’s fine

[grand hill]

ok

[shell crown]

Just click them and that's it

[shell crown]

Have you tried polar65 by any cjance?

[stray tiger]

I have not!

[shell crown]

Oh damn, I've heard some great words about it

Wondering if I should get ot

Peoplesay after modding it sounds better then wooting

[wispy thistle]

ok ty

@fluid ravine sorry where can i see your wooting station again?

[fluid ravine]

https://discordapp.com/channels/167181566978555904/1173784544529363034

theres more but this is the lastest one

[median spade]

performance wise tho it's not better

if you chasing sound go for a mx board and have your wooting on the side or only for gaming etc

[glacial wind]

Doubt, all the he boards tend to sound the same after modding

You’re basically just ending up with foamy ks20u/t or foamy ks37b

[harsh dove]

HE won't sound good until they stop favoring RGB

aka PC top housings

[median spade]

specifically the clear cheapo ones they using

milky top or opqgue would be nice setp

[glacial wind]

Polar65 is lamzu65 is Yuki aim 65 is atk68 is drunkdeer g65 with different switch

At this point anyone who says one is better than the other is fooling themselves

Literally all using the same parts from same oem and drunkdeer only difference is they picked raesha switches

[harsh dove]

Placebo Effect

[shell crown]

I know it's not as good performance wise

[glacial wind]

If you look at the pcb model numbers it’s literally all revisions of the exact same pcb parts for all of those boards

[shell crown]

I never tried anything other then wooting and my own PCBs so I don't know

[quiet bay]

just let them break in

if u didn't overlube too much

[glacial wind]

It’s all read as something like k1112a, then other company will be k1112b, k1113b etc - they just change the case mainly

[quiet bay]

"after modding"

[wispy thistle]

lets go just ordered all the parts!

[quiet bay]

If you mod wooting it's also good

[shell crown]

Yeah, there is a lot of opinions

[wispy thistle]

thanks for all the help in the past couple weeks eveyrone

[shell crown]

What did you get?

[median spade]

yeah im saying if you're chasing sound don't buy another HE board

[wispy thistle]

me?

[shell crown]

Oh I am not chasing sound, I didn't say I see it as a better one either.

[shell crown]

Yeah, new stabs?

[wispy thistle]

no i ordered everything. the pcb, the case, the keycaps, stabs, lube, even a lube station XD. going to be my first custom

[quiet bay]

dw it's my first custom and gaming keyboard overall lol

[shell crown]

Ah damn, good luck with that. I myself am waiting for my staebies to arrive to check how it goes

[quiet bay]

I had a membrane keyboard

[shell crown]

Still have one

[quiet bay]

I do still have it, it's rotting in one of my drawers

[marsh saffron]

I haven't had a membrane keyboard since like 2013

[shell crown]

I use it as daily driver, noise complaints

[quiet bay]

lmao

[shell crown]

Household members don't like my keebs

Whenever I get into a public place, membrane or laptop keyboard it is

[quiet bay]

I made my friend a custom clicky keyboard (he paid for it) cause he liked the sound and feel

he almost got his ass whooped

[shell crown]

Uh oh

[quiet bay]

because it was so loud and he was playing in the night

[shell crown]

Damn yeah

I have G915 clicky version

People HATE the sound

I don't hear it

[quiet bay]

Clickies can sound good...if it was quieter and more soothing

like a deep click

[marsh saffron]

Meanwhile razer black widow

[shell crown]

They can but it's just too loud

I like my 915 cause it's very portable

[quiet bay]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/YBqZQWMcKVg this

deep clik

the surface it's on probably makes it sound deeper tho

[shell crown]

Yeah

[bitter valve]

30A S o-ring in redux for me. Can take it out with bare hands, no tools.

[gleaming crane]

Awesome

[bitter valve]

People tend to install it wrong too, make sure your o-ring completely under the plate, use keycap puller to push it further if needed

[quick girder]

any of you that have used magnet jades, is there cherry profile interference when theyre north facing? im holding out hope that a clear bottom switch with a sealed bottom comes out but if that isnt the case i will use the jades so i can at least get the rgb on top of the board even if it isnt through it

[quiet bay]

I haven’t heard of any problems with interference using jades

[glacial wind]

we don't have anyone in here with an fr4 custom plate and jades do we?

I'd be curious to see what a slightly poppier sounding plate would sound like with jades

[harsh dove]

Not that I know of, but I just ordered 4 custom plates recently to try out, POM, FR4, CF, Alu

[shell crown]

I have 8 plates that I can swap to but no jades or raptors

[gusty marsh]

Is it worth it for the wooting60he? I have been considering it a bit but quite expensive {Australia}? Is it worth it or should i wait?

[marsh saffron]

worth if you want 60%

if you really want the 80he you can wait but you are gonna be waiting until mid-late summer iirc

[gusty marsh]

Already using a 60%

[marsh saffron]

id go with 60he

[gusty marsh]

Alright

[marsh saffron]

certainly worth it

[gusty marsh]

Ok

[marsh saffron]

have had mine for around a half a year, loyal to wooting for sure after using it this long

[untold wigeon]

where am i supposed to put this? it came with the module

ive put on the poron pad

[marsh saffron]

between the case and module

[untold wigeon]

is it an extra?

the case already has one it came with

alumaze case

[marsh saffron]

just use the alumaze one

[untold wigeon]

and put that one to the side?

[marsh saffron]

yeah

[untold wigeon]

also should the orings go on like this? or am i doing it wrong?

[languid kestrel]

think you place them on the standoffs in the case

[untold wigeon]

ah okay

[bronze grove]

Doing it wrong.

[untold wigeon]

rip

[bronze grove]

They either go on the PCB, or on the standoffs.

You've added them between the plate and foam. Definitely not advisable, sensor issues.

[untold wigeon]

oh well ill take then ill take it off and place it on the ones in the case

thanks fpr helping out

[untold wigeon]

where on the pcb?

if there a vid on yt i could watch?

[bronze grove]

Put them on the case standoffs.

[untold wigeon]

here? on the 2 in the corners?

[bronze grove]

Five in total.

Install the brass standoff that you haven't near the spacebar.

Then slap those orings on all of the standoff spots.

[untold wigeon]

so one of these gold ones go into that spacebar right

and now the orings on top off standoffs

can i use the black ones that came with the case or do i have to use the transparent ones?

[bronze grove]

Either

[untold wigeon]

one last question which screws do i use to screw in the pcb to the case?

[tawdry tree]

The ones painted white. 👍

[bronze grove]

Either.

[untold wigeon]

i took the whiteså

this does not want to pop in fml

[bronze grove]

You're literally breaking the PCB

Get that out of there and rotate it. Note how the LED is LEFT not UP.

@untold wigeon

[untold wigeon]

what xd

all of them are mounted like this?

you might seen wrong xd

[quasi topaz]

no

he is right

you need to flip that one iirc

[untold wigeon]

bro xd

[quasi topaz]

bro what

i meant rotate

[bronze grove]

You have ISO.

[crimson sky]

take a look in the hole the switch is supposed to go into

you just need to line up the 2 pins on the switch with the two holes in the PCB

[quasi topaz]

bro is condescending

[untold wigeon]

so they shouldnt be mounted like that?

[quasi topaz]

while being wrong at the same time

[untold wigeon]

yea thats what i followed

the brand name is at the bottom

[quasi topaz]

look at the right thing dummy

[bronze grove]

You didn't though.

[untold wigeon]

ohhh

my bad

[bronze grove]

It's in the same orientation as all of the other switches 😄

[untold wigeon]

yup

welp

its broken then ig?

[bronze grove]

The LED? Possibly. Only one way to find out. Powering on the board.

The switch? No just rotate it as shown on the piece of paper.

[untold wigeon]

rip

yup

led gone

rip

[bronze grove]

[untold wigeon]

anything i can do?

or nah

[bronze grove]

About the LED? Not without a very experienced solderer and replacement parts. We can provide a replacement PCBA, but that's a 90€ something cost to replace the entire thing.

[untold wigeon]

could it be a chance that if i change the orientation it could work?

or it it dead dead

[obsidian dagger]

crushed

[untold wigeon]

i see

should i even bother to change the orientation then

[obsidian dagger]

yes?

[quasi topaz]

wtf

am i reading

[untold wigeon]

ye its gone

[bronze grove]

English, the language is English.

[bronze grove]

https://tenor.com/view/its-dead-son-love-death-and-robots-its-not-alive-anymore-its-already-dead-it-did-not-survive-gif-22022393

[quasi topaz]

a led has been abused

[untold wigeon]

rip

haha

welp guess ill have leds off

[quasi topaz]

did you not see there was a led instead of a hole

[untold wigeon]

not that bothered bro

i dont use leds anyways

i did a mistake

doesnt effect its performance

[quasi topaz]

*buy a 300$keyboard
not bothered to build it carefully

[fervent galleon]

your german?

[fervent galleon]

ouch

[untold wigeon]

bro stfu

[untold wigeon]

swe

wonder what this guy would do if he crashed his car ”but bro it cost 10k”

[quasi topaz]

moderators pls i need help this dummy guy is mad for not taking care of his own expensive keyboard

[fervent galleon]

to be fair u said shit

[untold wigeon]

really not what im mad about

[fervent galleon]

yeah he did smth wrong but pls be nice

[untold wigeon]

you’ve been in this server and been trolling

[quasi topaz]

i mean you feel that it doesn’t go in

[untold wigeon]

dont worry about me

worry about urself

its not ur keyboard neither is it ur money

[fervent galleon]

yes

[quasi topaz]

myself is doomed

[fervent galleon]

yeah he did a mistake an expensive one but i think he lerned from it and will look next time so pls be nice next time and have fun when u buy ur wooting

[quasi topaz]

i wasn’t being not nice he just said he’s not that bothered which i find dumb for a keyboard at that price to not be bothered