🔧│keyboard_modding

[craggy viper]

meanwhile u spend 55 usd + shipping on jades and it sounds like a dif keeb

[loud zephyr]

u don't need to spend that much

[craggy viper]

also no filming no lubing

[next oak]

I kinda want a magnetic switch that's not deep sounding. Maybe someday

[craggy viper]

i like the polar 65 switches

[quick gulch]

raptors

[craggy viper]

too bad its a complete different design

[next oak]

I tried raptors and it's fine. Not my ideal sound but i like them

I personaly stem swap them to the l60

[craggy viper]

kinda wished these switches worked for the wooting

[next oak]

Dis the kc one?

[craggy viper]

its the other ks type one with the longer pole

[next oak]

I see

[craggy viper]

they have a nicer sound profile its alot more lighter sounding

[next oak]

Sound test?

Or is it in development?

[craggy viper]

ur getting another scuffed vid

[next oak]

Ooh that board

Yea i see now

[craggy viper]

dont feel like going through the effort of making it look good

[craggy viper]

yeah this keeb is pretty ncie when i need a 65% hall effect

[next oak]

It's fine. It gets the job done

[quick gulch]

what for 🤔

[next oak]

Im waiting for a 40% hall effect

[craggy viper]

but this is my light sounding keeb so the wooting is the polar opposite

[quick gulch]

you've got tap arrows

[craggy viper]

yeah but im not a fan of tap arrows

plus i like to use pg up and down

[quick gulch]

fair enough

[pale aspen]

modo good

[craggy viper]

tap arrows are always jank anyways

[quick gulch]

yea I think it looks nice

only shit part is not being able to hold them down but that's what layers are for honestly

[craggy viper]

i need to redo my main keebs stabs

[pale aspen]

modo light too but i honestly like pbt modo light more lol

pbt mod color is perfect

[quick gulch]

modo light is nice too

haven't seen the pbt modo is that the one that omnitype stock?

the otc set

[next oak]

Not sure about pbt modo

[craggy viper]

format wise 75% and 65% are my personal fav

[pale aspen]

yes

for $50 during sales

good deal

[next oak]

I see

[quick gulch]

ye

[pale aspen]

just look at color

legend sharpness is worst

novelkeys and xmi are much better

[quick gulch]

xmi is real nice

just too dull sounding for me I think

[next oak]

I like xmi. But the colours are very hit or miss. You either like it or not

[pale aspen]

qk100 e-white (more like cement gray irl) with OTC modo light

[quick gulch]

interesting take

[hearty sierra]

what switch is this

[pale aspen]

OTC modo light would look great on Alumaze concrete gray

[next oak]

Is the gray in this pic duller bcs of the lighting or is it the same?

[pale aspen]

qk said it is e-white keyboard

but it is probably cheap e-coat

because i have sonnet lol

[quick gulch]

probably yea

it's fine still though

hard to get a real good e-white

[next oak]

For that price yea

[quick gulch]

honestly just in general

[pale aspen]

i dont know if sonnet is good e-white or not

lol

[next oak]

My combo for sonnet prob like pc bottom. E white top. And gold accent

Looks fantastic

[quick gulch]

I still don't think I've seen an e-white without blemishes

[next oak]

Really?

[pale aspen]

my sonnet e-white was fine

but carrying case is not

it make my sonnet has yellow spot

fuck carrying case

[quick gulch]

there's usually tiny inconsistencies

[sweet cedar]

send sound test of final form

[quick gulch]

but it's fine honestly can't expect something to be perfect, it's a keyboard after all

[pale aspen]

cerakote white also has bad UV resistant

[next oak]

As long as it's not on the top then it's fine

[quick gulch]

yea that's the main part really

[harsh dove]

Idk if it’s actually final form but it’s the form for now lol

[untold wigeon]

"final form"

this guy thinks there will ever be a final form

[sweet cedar]

he said final form earlier lol

[sweet cedar]

sounds magnificent

[thorny isle]

why does everyone click their mouse at the start of a sound test

[quick gulch]

for reference

[thorny isle]

oh that actually makes sense

[pale aspen]

at least it is better than airpod case opening and closing

[next oak]

I mean, it still gets the job done. Like those nk giant switch

[loud zephyr]

just what every accountant needs to speed up those tax returns

[tawdry tree]

New HE kb every day

[untold wigeon]

140 is pretty fucking cheap for an 1800 layout

[fading siren]

the whole market for custom keycaps is a scam

change my mind

money printing machine

[quick gulch]

Gmk making bank for sure

The other vendors with close many relations also raking it in

[untold wigeon]

as pokimane would put it: ''If you're a broke boy, just say so''

[fading siren]

I can easily afford keycaps that are priced >100$, but it's just a waste of money
I'm not paying those prices for keycaps that cost like 5$ in production

[gleaming crane]

^

[fading siren]

I wonder how all of those keyboard manufacturers sell full sets of keyboards at the price of 100$ (which there are many high quality ones)

and yet, there's companies selling keycaps for 100$

if you think that the 100$ are justified you're delusional

because there's no way production costs come ANYWHERE close to 100$

[gleaming crane]

The only set that’s understandably expensive are cerakeys, and they’re even cheaper than some of the “cheap” GMK sets

[untold wigeon]

1. it was a joke
2. they dont cost 5 bucks

[fading siren]

I wouldn't be too sure about 2)

[untold wigeon]

how are you so sure about it

[fading siren]

well, maybe 10$

[untold wigeon]

do you have any proof to back that up?

if it was so easy and cheap to make, dont you think we'd have gmk 1:1's at $30?

[fading siren]

what's the difference between a set of GMK keycaps and ones from amazon that cost 30$?

[untold wigeon]

huge difference

[fading siren]

what exactly is the difference

[untold wigeon]

legends, durability, colors

[fading siren]

well, the legends on some prebuilt keyboards I have look just fine

[untold wigeon]

layouts

[fading siren]

they're also durable

[untold wigeon]

stuff like pbtfans dcx and gmk basically cover all layouts

cheap keycap sets dont

legends are shit

material is shit

colors are faded and shit

durability is shit

and on some sets there is an exclusivity factor too

I'm sure they don't cost $100 to make but you cant operate on 1:1 margins

[fading siren]

there's prebuilt keyboards for that price
and their keycaps look just fine, the legends are consistent and durable
the only difference is the color, like cmon dude

[untold wigeon]

you do not compare prebuilt keyboards with the price of high end keycaps

[fading siren]

high end?

[untold wigeon]

people who buys these keycaps have expensive boards

[fading siren]

what's different

I'm genuinely curious

the material?

[untold wigeon]

i just told you the differences

yet you are ignorant

[fading siren]

well I've explained to you that I can't spot the difference between a 100$ set and the keycaps of a 100$ prebuilt keyboard

because legends look fine and consistent

the only difference is the color

[untold wigeon]

you are not gonna tell me that people who buy $100 prebuilts are the people who should be putting $100 keycaps on their boards

that is your opinion

[untold wigeon]

also I cant notice it=useless

[fading siren]

that is not what I am saying

[untold wigeon]

thats the same people who think 1440p screens are endgame or sweetspot

its the same mentality here

[fading siren]

no it's not

[untold wigeon]

i dont have it/i cant afford it/im ignorant to it=useless

thats the mentality

[fading siren]

interesting

[untold wigeon]

sound too

pbt spacebars for example sound way different to gmk spacebars

comparing $100 prebuilts to $100 keycaps doesn't make any sense

[fading siren]

yes it does

[untold wigeon]

it does not

i hate to put it this way

but this is a brokie mentality

[tribal marsh]

i own a $200 gmk set and it's little difference compared to cheaper keycaps

change my mind 😄

[fading siren]

if I look at the pictures of 100$ prebuilts from /r/MechanicalKeyboards and compare the legend and colors, there's absolutely no difference

the only thing that may be different is the color scheme and font

[fading siren]

your mentality is "I got coerced into buying an expensive set of keycaps and now I have to justify it"

[elder hollow]

GMKs are crazy overpriced, they're great quality but I bet they're making crazy profit margins

Just driving the prices up with the drop hype

[fading siren]

I am not saying that expensive keycaps are poor in quality

[tribal marsh]

ye like up 1000% 😄

[untold wigeon]

i never owned a GMK keycap set in my life

[fading siren]

that's even funnier now

[untold wigeon]

for sure they have crazy profit margins

but thats how it is these days

unless they have competition that wont change

[tribal marsh]

but on the other hand I paid $200 to satisfy my inner weeb with japanese legends and i wasn't for super quality or anything

[untold wigeon]

Drop DCX is their only competition

[tribal marsh]

so that's about it

[fading siren]

the major difference between cheap sets of keycaps and expensive ones is the color scheme/artwork or whatever

and that's the reason people are buying them

[gleaming crane]

I’ve spent well over 500$ on my main board but just can’t justify spending over 100 on a set of keycaps😭

[fading siren]

not for the durability or whatever lmao

[untold wigeon]

also materials and legend consistency and sound

durability matters

[fading siren]

durability is a concern with ABS

[untold wigeon]

uh no

[fading siren]

yes

[untold wigeon]

pbt also have concerns

you just have to choose what you want

shine or uneven texture loss

i had 3 pbtfans sets they also exhibited the same issue

[tribal marsh]

btw can anyone recommend a good blank keycaps set

i've got the Ranked.gg "PREMIUM PBT" set but didn't like em after all

[untold wigeon]

why

[tribal marsh]

uh dunno

like eh that matte finish is just not my thing

[untold wigeon]

tbh I don't think there are any actual good quality blank sets

might be wrong tho

I was looking for some too, but only saw cheap shit quality ones

[gleaming crane]

Cerakeys🤷‍♂️

[untold wigeon]

those create issue with lighter switches

[gleaming crane]

Unless you’re running with lighter springs then idrk

[untold wigeon]

especially on the wooting

[gleaming crane]

Yeah

[untold wigeon]

most HE switches now are light

i think the L60 is the heaviest one

[tribal marsh]

https://www.maxkeyboard.com/max-ansi-pbt-104-key-cherry-mx-keycap-set-blank.html
https://eu.ranked.gg/products/premium-blanks-pbt-keycaps

owned both and they're sooo meh 🤷‍♀️

[normal schooner]

why not use wooting pbt keycaps

[untold wigeon]

they aint blank

[normal schooner]

ooh

[untold wigeon]

i think you guys should make blanks

like actually

a lot of people would love it

[normal schooner]

right now they want to make pbt keycaps for more iso layouts

and jis

[untold wigeon]

i heard abt that

[quick gulch]

you won't find many blank sets

[normal schooner]

tsja

[untold wigeon]

please make blanks tho

[normal schooner]

man u should ask calder not me

#1141096226884956181

[untold wigeon]

true

forgot

too lazy to make a post rn tho

[tribal marsh]

module finally starts shipping tomorrow ye

[untold wigeon]

hahahaha

[tribal marsh]

;;;;;;D

[untold wigeon]

you must've not checked stock batch updates

[tribal marsh]

huh

Updated expectation is for shipments to start: the 8th of January.

[untold wigeon]

oh for EU

i thought you was US

[tribal marsh]

yeh

[untold wigeon]

confused u with someone else

[tribal marsh]

neither tbh but i use eu batch here

[loud zephyr]

you're outta luck, one of the best were Danish company called BSP. Current high quality Pbt is by CRP... but don't make blanks

[untold wigeon]

my eu batch for the module is in shambles

🔥

[tribal marsh]

https://us.maxgaming.com/us/-83/blank-keycap-set-black gotta try these.. one last time

[loud zephyr]

waa u crazy, you don't carry a dictionary with you, so why u need letters on keyboard?

[normal schooner]

[untold wigeon]

you can't type without looking at your keyboard?!!!

[loud zephyr]

i use alexa to type things out

keyboards are yesterdays tech

[bright spruce]

I'd reckon majority of people can't

When the average wpm is under 60

[untold wigeon]

i mean i can type without looking at it, but i do type slow too

[craggy viper]

yikes kailh magnetic switches

[loud zephyr]

get faster keycaps

wish it didn't the side print though

[atomic plaza]

The mousepad looks good 👀

[normal schooner]

Pikabane

you missed a lot

about the 80 he

[atomic plaza]

What did I miss ? 🤔😅

[normal schooner]

monday wooting will upload a new video about the 80he

[atomic plaza]

👀

[normal schooner]

calder did a stream where he showed off the board

and live q and a

[atomic plaza]

Oooh cool

[normal schooner]

[untold wigeon]

nah

you are not gaslighting me into buying more keycaps

[mental salmon]

May you please list the mods you did?

[viscid sorrel]

has there been any movement on adding the stl file for the brass accent piece on the alumze 60 to teh github? I just checked and didnt see it there

[stray tiger]

That one is a bit older but I'm tracking close to 40 different HE boards currently.

[agile grove]

thats a lot

[devout torrent]

What case is that??

[fluid ravine]

Good morning y'all

I'm late for school yeeeee
And don't ask

[harsh dove]

Don’t forget warped keys and space bars

[harsh dove]

Salvation Case
No case foam
No plate foam
Friction Mount Graveshift M-40A Ring
PC Plate
1 Layer Moleskin tape
GMK Keycaps (ABS)
Gateron Magnetic Jades
TX AP Plate Mount Stabs
Everything lubed with 205g0, SuperLube Oil, Dielectric Grease

[gaunt linden]

Can someone send me a link to jades please?

[lament drift]

Lekker 45's or Gateron Magnetic Jades

[celest parrot]

How important is the long pole stabs in your opinion?

[blissful sluice]

There’s no way it’s under 60 with people under 40 years old

It just can’t be, that’s so slow

[harsh dove]

Not important

I don’t use them and I don’t have issues with Jades

[celest parrot]

Because I bought the module and the case and I don't know what else to get

I saw someone saying pollyfill something like that? For that case maybe?

[harsh dove]

Surprises me how many people actually type slow, looking at keyboard, or use one finger at a time

My avg wpm is 90-120

[sand oasis]

iirc the module will come with foam which you can try and see what sound you like and from then you can test and do mods one at a time and then go from there

[polar girder]

Plate foam x2

[celest parrot]

Yeah I live like in nowhere so I have to get everything together sadly

[harsh dove]

Well if you got the module then you don’t want plate mount stabs. Either stick with the stock stabs on the module or get Clip Ins if you want to be able to gummy/friction mount

[sand oasis]

ahh the case will come with the foam lmao

[polar girder]

Yeah I bought TX AP Clip ins but now wondering if I should’ve got the long pole if I go jades

[celest parrot]

Gotcha ty

[polar girder]

But doesn’t seem necessary

Still using my raptors for now anyway

[celest parrot]

And the gummy thing is for space bar right?

[sand oasis]

nah the gummy o ring is a mounting method

[celest parrot]

And thus it improves sound?

[polar girder]

It’s in place of screwing in the PCB to the case

It makes it different

[sand oasis]

yeh, tray mount is naturally pingy because of the contact with the screws, gumm o ring removes that

[polar girder]

Improvement is subjective

It’s like the next step up from burger mount

If you’re going that direction

[celest parrot]

Yeah it is like the little circle things I remember now

[sand oasis]

the most important thing is that you decide what you like and go from there

[celest parrot]

I meant like the large rubbery circle

[sand oasis]

sound is very subjective

[polar girder]

Yeah we’re talking about the same thing

Gummy o-ring mount or friction mount

Wrap a circle ring around the PCB/plate and slide it in case

[celest parrot]

Yeah ty bigsly

[polar girder]

Burger mount is a cushion/ring between the PCB and screw and case

Word

[celest parrot]

I'll do them both then

[polar girder]

Naw can’t do that

It’s one or the other

Burger mount is a tray mount modification

[sand oasis]

try them both and see what you prefer if you can afford the parts

[celest parrot]

And the gummy is better

[polar girder]

Friction mount is a diff way to mount

Gummy is different*

Some prefer it

[celest parrot]

Gotcha tysm guys

[unreal pendant]

jades 100%

[sand oasis]

most important thing is to lube the switches if you are going for lekker switches, this will probably have the most impact on the sound

[celest parrot]

Module
Jades
Redux with brass weight
Oring like 40a maybe?
What also I need?

[celest parrot]

I'm going with jade

[sand oasis]

some grease and lube for the stabs

[blissful sluice]

I guess a lot of people don’t have anywhere near the hours at a keyboard we have from growing up gaming and working at a computer

[celest parrot]

Aren't the stock stabs already lubed?

[sand oasis]

not sure with the module but lubing and greasing them yourself is worth it

[celest parrot]

And that's it? I don't need any thing

[tawdry tree]

How many of which directly competing with Wooting (features like RT, DKS, etc)?

[sand oasis]

keycaps as well

[celest parrot]

I have those

I mean like weird modding things

[sand oasis]

could get some painters tape if you wanna do tape mod

[celest parrot]

Nice I'll add some

[fading siren]

@celest parrot https://youtu.be/igy_n3f7VeI

[stray tiger]

Competing "well" would be likely none. While they all claim to support RT, there is no chance their software is as mature and polished. Plus none of them support things like wootomation

[harsh dove]

Yeah I grew up messing with my parents computer and I took various computer classes throughout school

[stray tiger]

A lot of them don't even support web based configuration.

[harsh dove]

Wootility is Goated for HE/RT Software

[polar girder]

Yeah Wootility is next level

Most they just focus on RT and call it good

Analog is after thought

[harsh dove]

Yeah the analog is amazing for some games

Most don’t have that

[polar girder]

DKS is after thought

Yeah they’re just basic HE boards

Which is sweet. But just not the same

[gaunt linden]

Are there Two gateron sites?

Gateron.co and gateron.com

[tawdry tree]

I’m not familiar with most but ATK is that close to a point I question the possibility they may had reverse engineered the 60HE’s firmware. Everything is there except for analog support and from the 5+ reviews everything is as good as it seems. It even One Ups Wooting in needing no software at all to set it up, not installed nor web based as it uses its RGB as a UI.

ATK68

Mine should arrive in a couple days then I’ll test its limits to see if the reviews were accurate.

[wet hazel]

Probably scam and official, respectively

[tawdry tree]

Both are official afaik.

[stray tiger]

Both are official.

[wet hazel]

Ah I though the .co was fishy. Okay another explanation tells than .co is a shorter way of .com

[stray tiger]

The ATK68 and 75 both use the KS-37B so I'll be interested in your evaluation as it's rumoured that the Boog75 is using the same firmware & software

[gaunt linden]

Thank you i was worried i got scammed lol

[stray tiger]

A lot of the off brand HE boards are just copies of each other though. For example the Everglide AE68, Skydigital VKBG68 and LATENPOW Looting68 are all the same keyboard.

[tawdry tree]

Do you know/understand why the KS-37(B)s exist? The Omni Point/KS-20s are older so wouldn’t it have been cheaper to use those switches instead of a brand new switch?

[tawdry tree]

Yeah I heard. I died when I heard Looting for the first time.

😂

[stray tiger]

I do not know why honestly but there has been rumors for a while now that the reverse polarity switches just don't work as well (which does match the performance reviews from people who have done side by side of the steelseries boards vs wooting). My "guess" is that the 37B's are an upgrade to try and fix some of the issues. Likely more consistent/tighter tolerance magnets and of course tighter tolerance stems with dual rail.

[untold wigeon]

@tawdry tree have you tried sleeping

can you finish typing already bitch

[valid sun]

Huh

[tawdry tree]

That I don’t understand. I watched a video about HE sensors so now I’m an expert of course and how I understood it is that it’s just about the direction the current is flowing through the HE sensor in comparison to the alignment of the magnet. That’s how a HE sensor can detect it. So that would mean that the HE sensors in the bad performing boards are either misaligned or bad, not so much the switch as neodims hold their strength accurately for agesss..

[bronze grove]

[tawdry tree]

I am eating with one hand and typing with the other, give me a break.

[tawdry tree]

No need lil bro

[untold wigeon]

how about you eat then you type

[tawdry tree]

Can’t, I am eating falafel wrap

too good to stop eating

gotta multitask

[untold wigeon]

i said finish eating then type

[tawdry tree]

also can’t cause I wanted ti reply too

[untold wigeon]

you simply do not reply

[tawdry tree]

as it is a very interesting topic

[untold wigeon]

is it

[tawdry tree]

yes to me it is

[valid sun]

it is

[tawdry tree]

but I’m sure it’d go right over your head

[untold wigeon]

right you will buy every keyboard just to prove you are right, forgot

[tawdry tree]

it’s not an argument, got nothing and nobody to prove I’m right to

cuh

[untold wigeon]

simmer down bub

[stray tiger]

I appreciate that you want to learn. Since you have started to understand the basic principles now might be a good time to read up on neodymium grades, inconsistencies and variations. As with most products, there are cheap alternatives, and those have consequences. Again, I cant prove they used the wrong bad coatings, random tolerances, that resulted in inconsistent magnetic strength, but I also can't disprove it.

[untold wigeon]

I am not that into this but theoritically could you say that the K20 is superior to the KS37 or am I way too far off

[stray tiger]

I'm assuming the 37B is an upgrade in both rail design and magnet quality, but that's speculation for the most part.

[untold wigeon]

i dont think the current wooting pcb will support these right?

[stray tiger]

It's not superior, it's different. Different polarity.

[untold wigeon]

i see

[uncut musk]

brain explosion

[stray tiger]

It has the ability to support the reverse polarity switches, but would need some firmware work. So it's quite possible, even likely, you will see that in the future. - Per Calder

[untold wigeon]

that'd be nice but first I'm curious how they stack up to the dual rail 2.0's sound wise

[stray tiger]

I don't want Mansen beating me up for saying that since he missed the Calder stream hehe

[pale aspen]

ks20u still oos for a week now

what are u doing, Gateron

[untold wigeon]

I watched the entire thing live, i kinda wish he'd do more of these

it was pretty chill

[stray tiger]

Well and also, Gateron is one of only 7 HE switch manufactures right now. Wooting has already stated they are looking at adding different switch manufacturers to the lineup in the future so if you want to wait and see everytime a new switch comes out, you'll be waiting a while. I expect 8-12 new HE switches released in 2024.

[harsh dove]

I wanna take these keycaps off this board

[untold wigeon]

I mean i have the L60, L45 will ship with the module and the Jades are coming so I'm good for now

[untold wigeon]

i think drop has them

[stray tiger]

BTW a lot of that is pending the outcome of the Gateron patent filing.

[harsh dove]

They do

[untold wigeon]

they are LOTR keycaps

[harsh dove]

But you have to buy the board too

[untold wigeon]

classic

they wanna milk everything

[stray tiger]

It's doubtful they will win, but I can see why they tried.

[untold wigeon]

yeah for sure

if they win it's gonna be pretty rough price wise

[pale aspen]

from comment on zfrontier
chinese people also tried of thier behavior

they seem doing this a lot

[stray tiger]

As a company I understand it. I'd do it to. If they win, its not like people will stop buying thier switches.

[untold wigeon]

if they win, people wont have a choice

but at some point they will stagnate and be overpriced af

thats the problem

[formal comet]

what patent

[formal comet]

o

I uh

can't read that

[pale aspen]

close bottom is patent

pepela

who could have do it

[formal comet]

weird

hall effect keyboards have been made for decades so I dunno why they think they can patent it now?

[stray tiger]

The patent claims they made the first switch of this design for the steelseries boards and own the rights to it

[formal comet]

I dunno if 'we stuck a magnet in an MX switch' is patentable but whatever

[pale aspen]

https://www.zfrontier.com/app/flow/AvmKzY36zRba

gateron's statement

Since its establishment, Huizhou GATERON Electronic Technology Co., Ltd. (GATERON) has focused on the R&D and manufacturing of mechanical shafts and customized shafts; in In 2019, it jointly launched the world's first magnetic axis keyboard with SteelSeries, which was used in Wooting's magnetic axis keyboard a year later. The magnetic axis keyboard has been favored by users since its launch. And on December 16, 2023, our company released the latest product - Magnetic Jade Shaft (ks-20T) in Shenzhen, China; on the second day after the new product was released, our company discovered that some criminals took advantage of our company's patent application period. Maliciously counterfeiting our magnetic jade shaft and promoting it on social media has caused immeasurable negative impact and economic losses to our company. Our company hereby solemnly declares:

1. The patent for the magnetic jade axis (ks-20T) on the back cover of the mahjong audio and magnetic axis is exclusively held by Jiada Longfang (application number: 2023233646230). It has not authorized other manufacturers or individuals to manufacture and produce. Products of the same type are all plagiarized and imitated.

2. Our company advises infringing merchants to immediately stop infringing activities, including production, promotion and sales. Infringing manufacturers and individuals are required to remove all infringing products and promotional content from the shelves within 3 days. Otherwise, our company will further take legal measures to safeguard its own interests and the legitimate rights of partners and users in accordance with relevant legal provisions.

[mental salmon]

The TX AP stabs are 1.6 long pole? Or what model?

[stray tiger]

TX makes normal and LP versions

[untold wigeon]

do not bother with long pole stabs unless u get jades and have issues with the normal stabs

[polar girder]

Yeah but I bought normal but with jades on top am second guess everything

[harsh dove]

Just keep your normal stabs if you get Jades and see if you have any issues first before buying new stabs

Myself and a few others in here who have Jades have not had any issues with normal stabs

[lament drift]

Is this the best choice for Wooting 60HE Module with DXM Keycaps?

[inner ravine]

does the redragon kumara k552 keycaps are compatible with the wooting?

[loud socket]

Does kbdfans only take PayPal

[loud zephyr]

Mojo60

[wispy sierra]

are the stabs on the module pcb the same material as the plate mounted 60 he?

[bronze grove]

No. The module has screw in stabilizer support, and they are preinstalled instead.

[untold wigeon]

A new hall effect gatereon switch that’s in the new KC Q1 HE

Does anyone know if Hall effect PCBs are being sold anywhere

[normal schooner]

https://wooting.io/wooting-60he-module/about

[untold wigeon]

I meant like after market one so I can turn my KC V1 into a Hall effect keyboard

75% pcbs

[stray tiger]

That would be a question for KC

[untold wigeon]

Doesn’t have to be a keychron pcb

Cuz I think KCs are pretty standard

For sizing

[stray tiger]

There is no real standard outside of 60% layout and the V1 is a 75% keyboard

[agile grove]

no, because of the knob

[untold wigeon]

Ohhh true

Forgor

[stray tiger]

Not even just the know as they sell the V1 with and without the know. There is mounting type (gasket in the case of the V1) daughterboard type, spaced layout of the arrow keys. etc

[agile grove]

you could try the drunkdeer A75

it would be an entirely need keeb

but if you want 75% thats probably what you're gonna want

[polar girder]

Anyone know if I can get a black PC plate with my module? 👁️👄👁️

[agile grove]

you cannot

[polar girder]

Serious?

🥺

[agile grove]

yes

[polar girder]

[normal schooner]

@glossy pagoda is this an option we can add?

[glossy pagoda]

It's already on the store

[polar girder]

But for module add on/custom option?

[normal schooner]

he means in the configurater theres no option

for a plate

[polar girder]

Yes. I would like to buy the module with black PC plate as option.

[normal schooner]

poor mark, bullying him with work on a sunday evening

[graceful pilot]

So I have an Alumaze case coming. I saw that the gold piece on the side is removable. Wondering if there are any dimensional drawings or possibly a .stl/3mf 3D file someone could use to print something in different colors?

[normal schooner]

ask that in #1141096226884956181 and say its not availiable on the github design page

[polar girder]

I would LOVE to be able to add a black pc plate to my existing Module order. But understandable if not possible. I would secondly LOVE if future module orders could have option to choose white or black PC plate

[graceful pilot]

OK thanks

[glossy pagoda]

It won't be possible to pick which plate the module comes in for the foreseeable future.
It is possible to add the other plate at the time of purchase, but only if you configure the module in your cart and then back out of the cart onto the webpage to also add the other plate to the cart.
The addition of the switch plate to the configurator to either a) stick with the included one or b) also get an additional one of the other color is already implemented and just needs to get pushed live during the next updates

[polar girder]

Hm should I email if I want black pc plate added to existing order then?

[glossy pagoda]

There's also an automatic discount that follows this logic:
If you have a 60HE or have one in your cart, you can get the black or white switch plate with 10% off
If you have a module in your cart you get 10% off only the black switch plate that would be additional/extra, but not if you try to add a white switch plate

[polar girder]

Sorry didn’t mean to make this a support ticket

Yeah black wasn’t out when I ordered module. So trying to fix what’s already been done

Or just order black separate

[glossy pagoda]

Sure, if you're in a tax-convenient location that may be the most straightforward way, otherwise if it gets too complicated you'd need to place a new order

[polar girder]

Ok ty

[pallid echo]

mechmarket is so clutch

[frosty sentinel]

Anyone know what’s going on?

The other side is nice and tight.. this side is lose af

[quiet bay]

You can try putting tape or bandaid on the plate

[frosty sentinel]

I will definitely try that

[gaunt linden]

Is that the stock stabs?

[frosty sentinel]

ya

I threw a piece of band aid under it and it seems to have fixed it

[loud socket]

Does kbdfans only take PayPal?

[polar girder]

Idk does it?

[stray tiger]

Idk does it?

[fluid ravine]

Idk does it?

[normal schooner]

[untold wigeon]

does it tho

[polar girder]

Idk

[untold wigeon]

well ig theres that

[fluid ravine]

idk

[fluid ravine]

[untold wigeon]

buy me some nitro yo

im broke

mine is running out next week

[stray tiger]

[untold wigeon]

💀

[fluid ravine]

[normal schooner]

[glacial wind]

Another keyboard to add to your list if you haven’t yet @stray tiger https://www.endgamegear.com/en-de/keyboards/kb65he

[untold wigeon]

thank you

[untold wigeon]

its interesting that they are all doing 65%

[glacial wind]

There’s an upcoming unreleased lamzu keyboard one too which probably uses same pcb as the other 65s that came out recently

[stray tiger]

Awesome thanks. I didnt have this one. But it looks like a clone of the Higround Base65, Yuki Aim HE and Acer OKW220

[untold wigeon]

endgame makes good products lets hope they actually do smth good with this

not just drop it for the sake of dropping it

[stray tiger]

Its a clone of the boards I just mentioned which means they didnt do anything except put their logo on it and change the keycaps.

[untold wigeon]

they couldnt even bother to have a standard traymount config

so that u could swap it

[gleaming crane]

Just got my jades and omg are they delicious😭

[untold wigeon]

real

[fluid ravine]

real

[stray tiger]

Yeah I was tracking that one. It has rubber keycaps so I thought that was interesting lol https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vuu5zPiyCW4

[fluid ravine]

we love tray mount!

[untold wigeon]

what is the point of so many fucking mounting points bruh

holy shit

wait

this is 160 bucks 💀

[fluid ravine]

💀

[untold wigeon]

why so expensive

[fluid ravine]

its not expensive :D

[untold wigeon]

they couldnt even bother to make it a good value huh

[fluid ravine]

its budget!

[untold wigeon]

💀

[stray tiger]

Looks like a clone of the Elecom VK600A since it looks like it's uses raesha box magnetic switches

[untold wigeon]

tf is that

[pale aspen]

iirc manu who can produce he switch othan than Gateron

[glacial wind]

Honestly rubber keycaps are not the way to go. I wonder if lamzu realizes people going to be posting photos of their destroyed keycaps 6 months later

[ionic ingot]

Am I part of the club now

[untold wigeon]

those are some big ass screws

[devout torrent]

egg and ducky are owned by same parent company

and it has ducky keycaps

so seems unlikely they'd just be another g.tech oem board

[stray tiger]

You always were

[sullen salmon]

do we know when we are getting the standalone orange 2.0/jade dual rail switches availabile to purchase yet?

[untold wigeon]

jades are not dual rail and you can buy jades already

[sullen salmon]

yes i know but we are supposed to be getting an updated jade 2.0 design with dual rails

from what ive heard at least

[untold wigeon]

?

they just released this

[sullen salmon]

yeah i know

who knows, could be wrong

[untold wigeon]

where did u hear about a dual rail jade

[sullen salmon]

i might be thinking of the ks20's dual rails

[untold wigeon]

KS20 dual rails are the orange/white 2.0s

the KS20U

the jades are KS20T

[sullen salmon]

white 2.0?

i thought oranges were like ks37 or something

[untold wigeon]

nah

nvm there is no white 2.0

its just these rn

[sullen salmon]

orange 2.0s arent compatible with the wooting pcb tho correct?

[untold wigeon]

they are

[sullen salmon]

i heard that they arent

im so confused

[untold wigeon]

the KS37 are not

these are both KS20

[sullen salmon]

i thought the orange 2.0s were based on ks37

[untold wigeon]

nah

[sullen salmon]

so is the difference between jades and oranges just the closed bottom housing on the jades?

[untold wigeon]

and the dual rail

and the sound

[sullen salmon]

yeah

but im referring to physical design

[granite mist]

I think I'm going for Jade with the shorter travel distance

[untold wigeon]

dual rail is also design

kinda

[sullen salmon]

it is yea i meant sound

[untold wigeon]

i feel like sound wise the 2.0s will be just roided out lekkers

[sullen salmon]

so still slightly shit

[untold wigeon]

na

it'll be lekkers but with dual rails, fixed tolerances

[sullen salmon]

dual dual railes

[untold wigeon]

i just woke up

my brain is fried

[sullen salmon]

lmao

what fixed tolerances are they referring to exactly? or is it just a general kinda term

[untold wigeon]

like the stem wobble and the housing wobble

the lekkers are terrible for that

[sullen salmon]

true

im on lekker45's with cerakeys, the oranges are only like 30g springs correct?

might have to use the lekker springs in that case no?

[untold wigeon]

they start at 30 grams

bottom out is probably around 45-50

[sullen salmon]

gotcha

[untold wigeon]

its a bit confusing

on how they worded this

[sullen salmon]

i should be good actually

most letter keys are only 3.5g

[untold wigeon]

how do you even use the cerakeys with an L45 spacebar?

[sullen salmon]

i use lekker 60s actually for the spacebar lol

45 was too light

[untold wigeon]

that explains it

[sullen salmon]

yeah spacebar weighed it down probably 1.5mm

its only ever so slightly too heavy with 60s with slightly less responsiveness? from the spring?

doesnt jump up as fast as it would with standard pbt keycaps

makes me wanna lowkey go back to pbt's as they also get slippery during gaming due to the gloss

[untold wigeon]

ceramic keycap sound like a good idea but they aren't

[glacial wind]

people confusing naming schemes

[untold wigeon]

ye i wonder whose fault it is

maybe not releasing 6 switches under the same name would be better

[glacial wind]

2.0 is often used to refer to any of the new gen gateron things. Just call it by the switch name to avoid confusion

[sullen salmon]

they sound phenomenal, makes lekker switches a little bit more bearable, however for gaming and light switches its a pain in the ass

also im not a fan of the gloss look

[glacial wind]

the dual rail ks20u are on sale on taobao now btw

but not aliexpress

[sullen salmon]

shit

should i cop?

[untold wigeon]

well

if you want a clackier sound probably

[sullen salmon]

clackier?

[untold wigeon]

these should also be more stable

higher pitched

[sullen salmon]

are you saying the lekkers are thockier?

[untold wigeon]

no

im comparing them with the jades

[sullen salmon]

ahh

so jades are thockier

[untold wigeon]

so to say ye

[glacial wind]

we don't have any real sound tests beyond that kdbfans page for that ks20u as far as I know

[agile grove]

lubed? kinda. stock? nah.

[sullen salmon]

ive got lubed lekkers

[agile grove]

jades are the thockiest we've got rn

[sullen salmon]

gotcha

[untold wigeon]

i mean considering they are the same shit besides dual rail and tolerances to the old ones, i feel like you can draw some conclusions

[glacial wind]

i mean just go to the page and listen https://kbdfans.com/products/takka60

no need to guess

[sullen salmon]

i know its a magnetic switch but would the bottom housing not affect the magnetic signal at all?

referring to jades

[untold wigeon]

nah it shouldnt

tho if u use DKS

it might fuck you over

[sullen salmon]

dks?

[glacial wind]

dynamic keystroke

[untold wigeon]

i forgot what it stands for

[glacial wind]

if you don't know what it is then you don't use it anyway

[sullen salmon]

seached it up, dont use it

[kind yew]

🥱

[sullen salmon]

so it wouldnt affect say .1mm actuation point for things like apex supergliding

[kind yew]

.1mm spec❌
.4mm actually ⭕

[sullen salmon]

honestly the orange 2.0 sound thockier than the jades on the sound test

[sullen salmon]

as in it only actually actuates at .4

[craggy viper]

im waiting for those switches

i hope they got a light sound

[untold wigeon]

which ones

[craggy viper]

orange 2.0s

im going to use them with a cf plate and holy60 case

[untold wigeon]

how much do they actually cost

my cf plate is arriving today

[craggy viper]

whatever i paid for my holy60

[untold wigeon]

LOL

right i forgot

ur the fella that got the holy60

[craggy viper]

imma put some nice gmk caps on it

[sullen salmon]

interesting

i wonder how its gonna sound

[untold wigeon]

im on pbtfans wob but i might change to dcx or gmk

[craggy viper]

probs ass

bc of how open it is

[untold wigeon]

💀

yet u still bought it

u really hate urself

[sullen salmon]

that set seems pretty popular

i wanna get gmks but idk where to get them from

[untold wigeon]

drop

[sullen salmon]

aussie vendors?

[untold wigeon]

https://oblotzky.industries/

[sullen salmon]

nvm

found some

[untold wigeon]

well look on alexotos's vendor list

[craggy viper]

It's more of I bought it to look at it

[untold wigeon]

ah

all them holes

they do something to ur eyes

[craggy viper]

Holy 60 plus rvmse

Just works

[untold wigeon]

perfect combo

[craggy viper]

But hopefully it has the right clack

[untold wigeon]

i mean surely they thought about this before releasing it

[craggy viper]

I have enough thocky keebs

[sullen salmon]

gmk are the "best" pbt keycaps right?

[untold wigeon]

gmk is abs

not pbt

[sullen salmon]

ah

is that bad?

[untold wigeon]

abs sounds better than pbt

no

its better

[sullen salmon]

oh really? i always thought people said pbt was better

[untold wigeon]

once pbt gets damaged its way worse than abs

this is not cheap abs

[sullen salmon]

i see

gotcha

[untold wigeon]

you can also look at Drop DCX

they are gmk "clones" sort of

im looking at gmk striker maybe to put on the black tofu

[sullen salmon]

im pretty boring i just want black and white set

[untold wigeon]

i am pretty boring too

but i wanna change that

[sullen salmon]

i have a few burgundy sets

but swapped to more minimilist streamline black n white setup

[craggy viper]

Pbt last longer

[craggy viper]

This is interesting @untold wigeon

[untold wigeon]

those are KS37s

for the Q1

[craggy viper]

They didn't make the q1 ks20?

[untold wigeon]

a fold user interesting

[craggy viper]

Too lazy to walk to iphonw

[untold wigeon]

i had one too dw

the screen broke when it opened

so i never bothered to get it fixed

[glacial wind]

The only board that supposedly works with both formats is boog75 as far as I know

[untold wigeon]

no

[craggy viper]

polar65

Can support those switches

[glacial wind]

Polar65 is both formats?

[craggy viper]

Only those

[glacial wind]

Isn’t that the ks37b board

[glacial wind]

yes I know, i mean both ks20 and ksb37b formats

there's 2 different switchtypes. Most boards are either setup for ks20 or ks37b, but not both

Boog75 is unique in that they said it supports both ks20 and ks37b, although I haven't seen anyone test the claim yet

[untold wigeon]

these names are so terrible

[craggy viper]

Kinda sus

[untold wigeon]

i think someone at gateron thought it'd be cute to troll the entire HE community

[craggy viper]

Yee

[craggy viper]

Ks37 feels good tho

[untold wigeon]

idc

these names suck

[polar girder]

watch it sound dope af lol no clue tho

I want a box stem HE

dual rail also would be sick

[sullen salmon]

box stem he dual rail switch would be peakk

actually what is the point of box stem? its to reduce rattle right?

[craggy viper]

reduce rattle and wobble

[sullen salmon]

yeah right

how come they're not more popular/produced? dont see them very often

[craggy viper]

u got the kailh hall effect switch only works for akko?

[sullen salmon]

na. i jus mean in general tho i dont see box switches a lot

[polar girder]

i kinda like the idea of box stem for heavier keycaps too

ie cerakeys or alu

keep the stem true under weight... maybe.

who knows. I can't wait to get rocked by the HE switch of my dreams, one day tho lol

[craggy viper]

ks37b yuki aim switches are nice

[polar girder]

nice how

[craggy viper]

smooth and sound good with 0 wobble

with a light sound to it

[glacial wind]

at this stage switches are a bit of a wash between ks37b or ks20 honestly

any of the new gen of switches seem solid

sound wise can always be improvements though. Would be interesting to see a gateron jade but with nylon upper

[polar girder]

Yeah

I want more variety in plastics

I don’t think they’ve figured it out yet

I’m not sold on the PC top housing

I’m curious how full (top, bottom, stem) nylon would feel/sound

[sullen salmon]

and dual rail

https://drop.com/buy/gmk-white-on-black-custom-keycap-set thoughts on this set? pretty cheap for gmk

[glacial wind]

I don’t think dual rail matters honestly

[sullen salmon]

i mean i can imagine it helping a little however it still depends on how tight the switch and stem contact are

[glacial wind]

it's purpose is to reduce wobble but you can reduce wobble already without needing to do dual rail

so as long as a switch reaches a low wobble level I don't think it matters if they did it with dual rail or not

[sullen salmon]

true

[craggy viper]

68g hall effect switch when

[sullen salmon]

whats the best wob set you guys would recommend?

ive heard gmk and the drop dcx set are pretty close

[glacial wind]

i prefer pbt, so pbtfans and wuque wob

[sullen salmon]

ive got pbt bog

not sure how i feel about it

[next oak]

Im pretty sure kc magnetic switch isn't compatible with wooting pcb. But correct me if im wrong

Also. Finally done modding my wooting. I had to put tissue on the stabilizer bcs my pc plate is loose

[hearty sierra]

looks clean, what case is that

[tawdry tree]

Those are KS-37Bs not yet compatible with Wooting.

[glacial wind]

Those are ks37b

[tawdry tree]

The KS-20Us (Dual Rail) are released as well which are compatible. I assume they’ll soon be on aliexpress.

[pale aspen]

still oos for me

[wet hazel]

on superbuy, what are those prices, I mean the new Dual "track" magnetic

[glacial wind]

It’s the temp holding price

They just put that there before they update the listing with the actual prices

[wet hazel]

Oh, makes sense

[tawdry tree]

It’s cheap bro, from 899 to 135 😮

[wet hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/stickergiant-slashing-prices-sale-sale-time-big-sale-gif-24960118

[next oak]

the tofu redux

[hearty sierra]

nice

[sullen salmon]

aliexpress seems so sketchy tho

any idea when we'll see it on proper retailer sites like kbdfans or something?

[sullen salmon]

wait so what are the ks37bs and what are the ks-20us.

are the 20us the orange 2.0 and jades?

[tawdry tree]

AliExpress is fine honestly but I guess they’ll be on KBDFans pretty soon as well as they sell their Takk/Holy60 with those switches.

[tawdry tree]

Omni-Point/Lekker/KS-20 (Single Rail V1)
KS-20U (Dual Rail V2)
KS-20T (Closed Bottom Single Rail (Jade Switch))
KS-37 (Single Rail V1)
KS-37B (Dual Rail V2)

Only KS-20 Series is compatible with Wooting PCBs as of right now.

[sullen salmon]

so anything with ks20

is the orange magnetic dual 2.0 compatible with woorings or no

[glacial wind]

just call them the switch name or you're going to confuse people

[tawdry tree]

You need to rely only on the actual switch name because both the KS-20U (Dual Rail) and the KS-37B (Dual Rail) come in orange.

[glacial wind]

the ks20u are compatible if that's what you mean by orange magnetic dual 2.0

if you mean recolored ks37b then no

[tawdry tree]

Gateron’s naming/marketing is confusing. 2.0 just means V2.

[sullen salmon]

okay so what's the name of the orange dual rail ks20

[glacial wind]

ks20u

[tawdry tree]

KS-20U

[glacial wind]

they are not out yet properly though, only some taobao listings that aren't even in stock

[tawdry tree]

Here are all the names and only KS-20 Series is compatible with Wooting PCBs.

[sullen salmon]

yeah gotcha

can't decide on the jade he or the ks20us tbh

for when they release

[tawdry tree]

Jades are a good switch either way.

But if you can wait a (couple) week(s) then there will be more info on the Dual Rails.

Sound, feel, etc

[glacial wind]

keep in mind jade will be louder sound too

whether you like that or not depends on you though

[sullen salmon]

I thought it would be thockier and quieter

[tawdry tree]

Not quite.

[glacial wind]

not quieter. Thockier compared to lekker for sure

[tawdry tree]

Jade’s can be louder but it depends a lot.

[glacial wind]

jades are 3.5mm that basically mimic long pole

so what happens is when you bottom out it tends to be louder due to that hitting the base

unless you're a super soft typer

[tawdry tree]

Does the stem hit the base as its only stop?

Really?

[glacial wind]

some like that, some don't, so you have to decide for yourself. I tend to like the long pole more distinct sound personally

[unreal pendant]

it's a shorter and sharper sound from my experience

[hearty sierra]

what are the ks20us

[tawdry tree]

^

[glacial wind]

yep exactly. You get kind of the bonk sound with long poles. I like that with my morandis anyhow

[hearty sierra]

what type of sound will they have

[tawdry tree]

Similar to KS-20s/Lekkers I presume.

But without the rattle.

Just smoother Lekkers basically.

[sullen salmon]

was hoping one of them would have a deeper thockier sound profile

https://youtu.be/uv47LMQMXn8?si=f3dVRPHwNRFPVgKV

this sounds pretty good

for he switches at least

[tawdry tree]

With open bottom switches the sound can travel more into the PCB and case foam. So you could achieve a quieter, deeper sound.

[glacial wind]

jades are closer to thock, so it's an improvement over lekkers at least

if you're hoping for that full custom keyboard thock you'll still be waiting though

the only switch i'm mainly waiting to check out is whatever this lekker 2.0 they have in the works sounds like

[winged python]

what are the o ring sizes i need for burger mount and gummy ring mod?

[tawdry tree]

#🪛│modding_faq

[sullen salmon]

when does that release?

[glacial wind]

no date. We only know they're working on them

[winged python]

thanks

[sullen salmon]

before the 80he correct?

[glacial wind]

no confirmation yet

just this year was all they said

[sullen salmon]

ah thought I heard an earlier release

[tawdry tree]

I think they hope to ship the 80HE with them but not sure if everything will be done on time.

[glacial wind]

honestly if jades is the best we got when 80he comes around I'm ok with that for now. It's at least a clean, non rattly sound even if it's not super deep thock

[sullen salmon]

ah, any confirmation on the 80he preorder/ shipping dates yet? haven't looked into it

[glacial wind]

just Q2 is only ship date they gave

[sullen salmon]

judging from the sound test I sent it's still pretty solid

it's thock with a bit of chatteriness

[tawdry tree]

Campaign starts this month and there will be a video on their Youtube today with more info.

[glacial wind]

jades sound clean which is good enough for me honestly. I'm not really expecting custom keyboard level thock from any he switch for now

[sullen salmon]

for sure

[tawdry tree]

Q2 if no changes will be made and around a 3 month delay if changes will be made.

[glacial wind]

there's gaterons updated raptor too at some point this year I suppose. We don't know if he'll change anything beyond color yet though

[sullen salmon]

raptor is gwteron?

[tawdry tree]

Geon he means

Not Gateron.

[sullen salmon]

oh I was gonna say

[glacial wind]

i meant just the switch profile type, my bad

[sullen salmon]

wdym?

[glacial wind]

geon are gateron clones basically

[tawdry tree]

Geon said just a clear top housing.

For RGB.

In March I think.

[glacial wind]

as far as switch profile goes. It's a cloned gateron switch but with better tolerances and nylon top housing it seems

[sullen salmon]

I see

wellp I'm jus gonna hold out for the ks20us release and see how they compare to jades, cbf waiting for anything else tbh n doubt it'll be so significant of an upgrade so soon

[glacial wind]

i have raptors already so I'm fine with them until 80he comes then I'll decide on a switch for those closer to delivery

[sullen salmon]

how are the raptors over the lekkers?

[tawdry tree]

Tighter tolerances.

So better overall but it’s not really hard to one up the lekkers lmao

[glacial wind]

good. They're like lekkers but nylon top housing and less rattle

[sullen salmon]

so I've heard, they have a tighter housing but smaller stem don't they? which is why people put lekkers stems in?

[glacial wind]

I did the lekker stem swap. Didn't like it

[tawdry tree]

Yes, Raptor’s stem is slightly smaller so you can stem swap them as well.

[sullen salmon]

yeah figured

[tawdry tree]

To achieve even tighter tolerances but then friction…

[sullen salmon]

true true

also, odd question but is spring oil that much better than using krytox on them?

[glacial wind]

nah just easier way to achieve same result

since you can bag lube faster than manually lubing every switch

[sullen salmon]

I mean I jus bag lube springs with krytox

[glacial wind]

oh, that's kind of weird, i'm not even sure krytox bag lubes properly

it's a bit thick to spread around

[tawdry tree]

Spring oil is thinner, so from my experience it coats more evenly on springs.

[sullen salmon]

it probably doesn't

yeah I've got to rub it

can't jus shake

[glacial wind]

if I had krytox only then i'd lube them normally. Bag lubing is not worth with krytox

[sullen salmon]

but I didn't have spring oil at the time

[tawdry tree]

Honestly just lube the bottom of each spring with kry, don’t bother with bag lubing if you only got kry.

[sullen salmon]

gotcha, thanks for all the help goodnight fellas

[tawdry tree]

Any time, take care!

[trim orbit]

Nice thanks for the info

[finite gate]

If using krytox on springs just dip both ends in the lube

[pastel ridge]

\

[wet hazel]

AliExpress 'PBT' 20$ keycaps arrived, I don't expect anything decent

I mean, this is the box of the keycaps lmao

[untold wigeon]

@craggy viper i installed my cf plate rn, its surprisingly quite a bit deeper than the pc plate with the lekkers

[ember bobcat]

Hi, should I buy the Wooting 60HE or just the board? because I'm interested in completely customizing it

[bronze grove]

Up to you - Do you plan to buy a different case for it?

The 60HE Module doesn't come with one.

[ember bobcat]

Yes, from wooting site

[bronze grove]

Then it's not a bad idea. Lets you pick the kind of switch weight you want, and keycaps are optional 🙂

[ember bobcat]

Ok, thank u so much

[untold wigeon]

100% go with the module, plate mounted stabs are garbage bruh

you will never be able to get them to sound good

[normal schooner]

skill issue

[untold wigeon]

nope they are simply garbage

[shell crown]

Are brand new orders of 60HE with fix for new plate?

I wanna order new one and give my brother the old one

[bronze grove]

I don't understand the question. Fixed plate?

[shell crown]

No I mean old ISO could not fit new ISO plate

[bronze grove]

We're still working on a solution to 60HE ISO and PC plates

For now only the module has PC plate support.

[shell crown]

Ah okay

[craggy viper]

TX stabs tho

[sand oasis]

100% gonna fix it tomorrow right????

https://tenor.com/view/copium-meme-pepe-frog-gif-26117735

[thick mural]

yay i got my module address confirmation email

[untold wigeon]

im not spending anymore money on plate mount dogshit

the module confirmation email got sent

i'll deal with this for another week and sell the current pcb with the shit stabs to someone else to deal with

[shell crown]

Me when 80% info

[untold wigeon]

Hello guys, I recently ordered the Wooting, do you recommend buying films for the switches? Or is it something unnecessary? Thank you

[onyx pier]

U dont have to

You can get switches like gateron jade or raptors to remove the wobble

[hearty sierra]

does anyone have a logitech pro

if so how does the wobble on that compare to lekker wobble

[shell crown]

Lekker is denture wobble

[hearty sierra]

if there is a slight gust of air in my room my logitech wobbles

ill take anything less than that

[shell crown]

damn okay

It isn't like THAT but it is quite a bit

Also buy raptors swap them with L60 stems and you got the thing

[hearty sierra]

might get raptors eventually

[shell crown]

Just put L60 stems

[hearty sierra]

yeah i got those so ill just take them out

[shell crown]

For thockyness alumaze vs stock plastic?

[hearty sierra]

alumaze

[shell crown]

Idk rly

[glacial wind]

for thock honestly plastic is fine

metal feels and looks cooler, but realistically for sound I don't think metal case ever wins unless it's super dense and heavy

[shell crown]

But I gotta choose one and give my brother the other

[glacial wind]

i mean I'd pick metal all day even if it's more prone to ping

it just feels nice to hold a metal keyboard

[shell crown]

Okay

[marsh saffron]

Also looks a lot better

[shell crown]

I can take one or the other yano, no inbetween

Yeah true

[marsh saffron]

Take alumaze

[shell crown]

Okay

I'll buy 60HE+ and alumaze and that's it

No more keyboard world for next 5 years

I have 15 keycap sets and about 30 PCBs in my room

All custom HE ones

[lucid swan]

sounds exhausting having that many

lemme help you out🙏

[shell crown]

I design them, have fun making cases

All without a case

A d no switches

• they are HE so u would be in PAIN