🔧│keyboard_modding

[stray tiger]

Since I'm old, and have been a music and speaker enthusiast since my teens (my first job at age 15 was working in an audio shop) I actually hope we never treat this hobby like audiophiles.

Otherwise I'll start selling magic $500 USB cables that will claim to reduce the frequency of your keyboard, giving you the thock you desire

[halcyon obsidian]

honest that is fair

the audiophile community overll are kinda snobs too

[polar girder]

And they masturbate to minutiae

[stray tiger]

The keyboard community is the same at times already. I've spent multiple thousands on keyboards and I have no problem admitting that some of my cheaper boards sound the best (to me).

[polar girder]

We love a Humble King

[wind karma]

um actually you just need to use a better coiled cable to release the inner thock of your more expensive keyboards 🤓☝️

[halcyon obsidian]

one thing that annoys me about the audiophile community is they won't answer my questions about "gaming iems" or "gaming headphones" and say it doesn't matter but imaging, sound staging, the eq makes a huge difference on if the gun shots are too loud vs prioing footsteps

this obviously isnt the entire community but I get that answer a lot that it doesn't matter

[void hollow]

Audiophile is honestly mostly just a cringe word to use tbh. There isn't really a category of Gaming IEMs and Gaming Headphones in like audio

Oddly people still ask about gaming audio gear in an "audiophile" discord

[halcyon obsidian]

well "gaming headphones" are a scam

[void hollow]

yeah, pretty much

[halcyon obsidian]

but finding what audiophile headphones are tuned well for gaming it relevent imo

[void hollow]

I honestly enjoyed my gaming experience better on my current HD600s over those over advertised EPOS H6 (not that they're that bad though)

some of us pretty much just put it as like a gaming headphone that is towards neutral but a little more bassy

[halcyon obsidian]

I think bass is bad for gaming tho

[polar girder]

Depends on the game

But yeah

[void hollow]

yeah haha thats why, the idea of "gaming" headphones are really vague, everyone have different definitions of it

[void hollow]

If you say it that way, then a neutral "audiophile" headphone seem to see fit

[halcyon obsidian]

cause thats gun shot and explosions mainly which I find tends to muddy more important sounds

[agile grove]

the word "gaming" is cheat code to make your product overpriced and still have people buy it

[void hollow]

i do agree on the overpriced part, especially on some specific brands, but some brands do indeed output pretty decent products for the average "gamer"

[grizzled path]

ohhh... like the wooting!

[halcyon obsidian]

absolutely

[agile grove]

"specific brands" just say logitech

[void hollow]

Logitech, Razer hmm

[agile grove]

razer can be well priced... on sale

you can tell something is overpriced if they can sell it for like 50% off

[void hollow]

yeah i think its the same for both, when i was younger razer products are always on an all time high price

the older generation like the wired* g502 sell for pretty cheap nowadays too, quite a decent mouse if you dont mind it's weight

[agile grove]

wooting is a specific outlier

most small brands are actually

[pulsar ravine]

Let the games begin. 🔥

[grizzled path]

oof have fun

[void hollow]

hope your fingers hurt

[agile grove]

are you ready for the next 4 hours of your life?

[pulsar ravine]

They are starting to. lol

[pulsar ravine]

Right? LOL

[void hollow]

putting them back onto your plate gonna be a fun experience

[agile grove]

mhmm

[stray tiger]

It might be because honestly, all you need for a good wired gaming headphone is accurate soundstage, easy to drive (low impedance) and neutral sound profile.

If you start talking headsets you have to add mics into the conversation.

[void hollow]

ngl i broke so many o-rings attempting this

[halcyon obsidian]

I feel like to say dt990 and a hyperx headsets offer = sound statging isn't true tho

[polar girder]

I love my 560s

I’m all set

[pulsar ravine]

Better shot of the new case without my destroyed desk mat

[stray tiger]

Some of the best but I even have some old HD515's that sound as good and you could get them today for $50 off ebay

[wind karma]

which case?

[pulsar ravine]

Red Klippe T

[wind karma]

looks tasty

[grizzled path]

Well

[fluid ravine]

Well 🌭

[grizzled path]

might be a bit wobblier but it actually sounds a lot more pleasant if I press the top part

[fluid ravine]

[grizzled path]

anyway didn't want that to happen, fuck

[fluid ravine]

[stray tiger]

Luckily it's an inexpensive fix

[grizzled path]

true, shipping costs more than the stab itself

[pale aspen]

both seem to ship around the same time

[polar girder]

Anyone raptors bought their jade gaterons?

Need a side by side before I buy my fourth HE switch

[near iris]

is the krytox 205G0 and molykote EM-50L + ://blank switch toolkit offered on the site worth it? or are there favoured alternatives?

apologies if question's odd, haven't modded a keeb before

also thinking of purchasing a tofu60 redux case

[stray tiger]

The lube kits are a good value

[near iris]

thank u, any thoughts on the toolkit?

[stray tiger]

If you're only doing a few boards then both are a good value if you don't already have those items.

[wind karma]

klippe T vs tofu60 redux?!?! 🤔

[sand oasis]

klippe is better

but more expensive

but i think the typing angle on the klippe is 8 degrees compared to on the redux is 7 iirc

[agile grove]

in what ways?

they look almost identical to me

[sand oasis]

better quality aluminum

but they do look the same

[wind karma]

oh

[void hollow]

im gonna go home and cry about 30 dollar gasket orings

[wind karma]

so its just quality wise better

[wind karma]

oh umm

id like the typing angle to be as low as possible so i guess redux?

i use a really low typing angle i think

i would get the klippe if it werent for the typing angle

[void hollow]

i really think you just need a wrist rest

the 1 degree might deem insignificant, id rather you go for something that looks good since you will probably be admiring it here and there that you will forget about the 1 degree

[wind karma]

i don't think i have the space for one

[void hollow]

or another way is have better overall posture

[wind karma]

the klippe T looks better to me just cause the redux's side is like this

a bit narrow

[wind karma]

i have good posture but i'm short as hell soo

[void hollow]

honestly i prefer the klippe t too over the redux

[sand oasis]

7 degree for me is fine with no rist rest

[void hollow]

but i already bought the redux, dont really wanna spend another 300 dollars

[sand oasis]

i also prefer the klippe *but couldnt justify price plus shipping

[void hollow]

im like 169

[obsidian totem]

I got a custom Bottom Force 70g spring.
https://aliexpress.com/item/1005006273053817.html

[void hollow]

30 dollars for a gasket oring, justifiable?

[wind karma]

wait why 300

isn't the klippe t not much more

[wind karma]

i'm 154.... so....

[void hollow]

the redux costs almost 300sgd here(1sgd: 1.4usd), the shipping costs are insane to where i live

[sand oasis]

yeh

shipping costs area killer

25 dollar shipping for the raptors if i wanna get them

[agile grove]

actually they're on divinikey now

[void hollow]

7sgd gasket oring backed by 23 dollar shipping im gonna- im gonna- im gonna-

[sand oasis]

they dont ship to uk for orders below like 160 usd

so kbd fans it is

[sand oasis]

still cheaper for me to get off kbd fans

works out to 37 pounds

[void hollow]

check aliexpress kbdfans official store

[wind karma]

with shipping the klippe T is $144 for me

[void hollow]

i reach home to see the exact mess my table is in the way i left the house xD

[wind karma]

what's the weight of the klippe T and redux?

[onyx pier]

Its $110 sgd or smth get it from taobao

[sand oasis]

think with the weight the redux is 100 grams heavier or something like that

[void hollow]

i think i got it for about 220 or so

lemme pull out my excel to check

[dense token]

would it be viable to just 3d print a resin case thats the exact same as the 60he stock case

besides the strap

[void hollow]

nevermind i think i got it for 181.8

[onyx pier]

300 for the redux is crazy

[wind karma]

oh

[wind karma]

well.

why did i just reply twice

anyway

why would the redux cost 300?

[void hollow]

^

mistook it for something else

[wind karma]

oh okay

[dense token]

is there a way to convert the wooting to wireless

[bronze grove]

There are some weird, Japanese kits that can do it I believe. But nothing official or well documented.

They're more like a USB dock of sorts with a battery, converting USB to a wireless signal and back I believe.

[dense token]

sounds cool ill see if i can buy the parts to try it

thanks

[void hollow]

i didnt think i would hit the 900sgd mark

[harsh dove]

Good afternoon

[void hollow]

heyo cam

[void hollow]

did u gasket mount your kb?

[harsh dove]

No

I’m using a salvation

[void hollow]

damnn

[harsh dove]

Why wassup

[void hollow]

i was gonna ask where did you buy your gasket oring haha

but you arent so yeah

[harsh dove]

You talking about doing gummy o ring mount?

[void hollow]

yeah

[harsh dove]

I did that in the Alumaze

You can get some off Graveshift

[void hollow]

like their own website?

[harsh dove]

Yeah

[void hollow]

damn haha

[onyx pier]

Think this is how the new gateron switches sound like

Should be a comparison between the ks 20 white or something or either normal lekkers

[fluid ravine]

the dual rail switches?

[fluid ravine]

i mean both are the same so it can be either

[onyx pier]

The new jade ones

[fluid ravine]

which one?

got a link or smth

im prob missed out on the news

[onyx pier]

This one

[fluid ravine]

you got the material description?

damn i see what the did there for the pole

smart

they closed the bottom out pole section so the switch can have a fuller sound when bottoming out

[onyx pier]

Here

Pc top housing bottom nylon

[fluid ravine]

wait wtf

pc again!?!?

thats fked

smh

[onyx pier]

It actually sounds better than the neo company that supposedly copied gateron switches

[fluid ravine]

you're not wrong

good for them

they actually somewhat figured it out

[harsh dove]

I'll buy these to test

[fluid ravine]

im wondering why not a different top housing material though

[harsh dove]

Instead of PC?

[fluid ravine]

oh damn 👀

[fluid ravine]

yeah

[harsh dove]

Yeah I like the Nylon from Raptors

[fluid ravine]

exactly

nylon was a good choice

[harsh dove]

PC is supposed to be more thock iirc

[fluid ravine]

now im questioning why lekkers chatter then

[harsh dove]

Cause they wobble

I think

[fluid ravine]

bc of the dimensions between the stem and top housing

yeah

some shi like that

[harsh dove]

Like the raptor stem is smaller than the lekker stem slightly, so when I put the Raptor stem in the Lekker housing, is was super loose and very chattery

more chattery than stock lekker

[fluid ravine]

redit

[fluid ravine]

so def the wobble

but i dont agree on the top housing still

like i dont hate it but its something to re consider

[harsh dove]

It's interesting that you get slightly diff sounds from Lekker stem vs Raptor stem considering they're both POM

I think it has to do with the tightness

giving it a slightly diff sound possibly

[fluid ravine]

correcto actually

[harsh dove]

Yeah cause if it has less room to move around then the quality of the sound can change

[fluid ravine]

honestly yeah
if the lekkers top housing increase in size just by a few mm to make it tighter

it would make it alot better

wont be peoples 100% preference and all but it would still somewhat save it

[harsh dove]

Yeah I think I prefer the stock Raptor stems tbh

[fluid ravine]

fr i agree

[harsh dove]

Cause they kinda fly thru the housing, whereas the Lekker stems are tighter so they have a bit of friction and you can feel it when typing

[fluid ravine]

ya

hm i do wonder how thick the cover on bottom housing is
i dont think it really should affect the magnet at all
in terms of bottom out sound however...

talking about the jades btw

[agile grove]

oh hey funny KB modding guys, I fell into the temptations and bought tx ap stabs and a graveshift o-ring

[fluid ravine]

i think it should imprve the bottom out sound just a little bit
nothing huge i believe

[fluid ravine]

oh nicue!
make sure you buy the M size orings

[agile grove]

I did

[fluid ravine]

good 👍

[agile grove]

now you've got me double checking

[fluid ravine]

lol

[agile grove]

ok yes I did buy medium

[fluid ravine]

make sure you got the tx ap stab plate mount

[agile grove]

nah

I got the module

[fluid ravine]

oh

nvm

make sure you got the base and 1.6mm

:)

[agile grove]

yessir

[fluid ravine]

👍

[agile grove]

this is a really dumb question im sure, but tape mod is for thock correct?

[fluid ravine]

i mean
if i were to be honest
it depends

just know that tempest is suppose to make the board poppier or louder in general
decreasing resonance etc etc

[agile grove]

so its bad for thock?

[fluid ravine]

no its not

[agile grove]

or does it depend on foam/silicone, case, ect?

[fluid ravine]

or just configuration in general
tempest is a good mod for alot of budget boards

[wind karma]

foam matters a lot i think

[agile grove]

I'll try it with and without, probably 3 layers

[fluid ravine]

mines kinda weird

when it comes to tempest

louder yes
but sometimes can come in result of being deeper, clackier, its raandom for me

but lately been getting deeper sounding or hollowness esp in the spacebar

[wind karma]

wtf

[fluid ravine]

yeah right!?

i wish i could have 2 wooting boards tbh
one in a high quality plastic and one in aluminum case

really loved my stock/plastic case configs

[wind karma]

thats really strange lol

are you sure the mod is applied the same everytime

[fluid ravine]

masking tape and painters tape gives me a whole different result

[wind karma]

no air pockets or anything between the tape and the pcb

[fluid ravine]

yep i know how i applied it

[wind karma]

damn

[fluid ravine]

very experienced in taking in aand out

but not in types of tape

[wind karma]

what do you like about the plastic cases

[fluid ravine]

hi Mansen!

[wind karma]

ohh for the thock

ofc 😸

[fluid ravine]

no buts its really good though

[wind karma]

wouldnt you need thin foam for thock tho what

[fluid ravine]

well depends on what kind of foam

[wind karma]

oh

[fluid ravine]

but you do have the general idea

[wind karma]

yup

did you ever try car sound deadener

[fluid ravine]

i honestly forgot how frequency works when it comes to the case

[fluid ravine]

kilmat?

[wind karma]

i saw that squashy boy guy try it and it made a massive difference

[wind karma]

yeah thats one brand i guess

[fluid ravine]

kilmat is crazy at dampening sound

@quiet bay

[wind karma]

yeah it is

[fluid ravine]

OI GET YO BOOTY ON

[wind karma]

i can send the vid if you would care to see lol was a massive difference

[fluid ravine]

pochizo tried kilmat

[fluid ravine]

yeah i watched it

[wind karma]

im interested to hear their thoughts

[wind karma]

ah okay

[fluid ravine]

im in loved with polyfill tho

yet still struggle on how much is needed in the case 😂

[wind karma]

what does that do for the sound

poppy sound?

[fluid ravine]

like case foam
remove like unwanted noise that bounces around the case

[fluid ravine]

its not reaally dense enough like wooting foam

wooting foam actually makes the board pop if you didnt know

[wind karma]

oh. but how different is that to the wootings eva foam

[wind karma]

oh damn

[void hollow]

with tape mod it gonna pop more?

[fluid ravine]

or make it louder yeah

[wind karma]

usually the case

[void hollow]

tenz into clack?

[fluid ravine]

im into both thock and clack

love both

[void hollow]

thoughts on this?
#1179300178281373716 message

[fluid ravine]

they just gotta sound good

for my approval

[fluid ravine]

i have a question
do you have long nails?

[void hollow]

yes-

[fluid ravine]

no wonder-

[void hollow]

i totally forgot to cut em

[quiet bay]

made my board too muted to my liking 😂

[fluid ravine]

it sounds really sharp

[wind karma]

i cant listen to that so do the long nails make for a thocc

[fluid ravine]

thats why i asked

it sounded so familiar

[wind karma]

oo

[wind karma]

oh

[void hollow]

should i cut my nails and record it again XD

[fluid ravine]

if you want

[fluid ravine]

your nails can also beat up your keycaps btw

[void hollow]

yeah ive noticed

on my 5 year old doubleshot pbt keyboard

[fluid ravine]

speaking of keycaps
it might be one of the reason why it sounds like shit

[wind karma]

uhhhhhhhh lil tenz

[fluid ravine]

wassup

[wind karma]

i want to show you my keycaps lol

they look like they eroded

[fluid ravine]

oh shi-

go ahead 😭

[wind karma]

from 3 years of epic valorant and fortnite gameplay

[fluid ravine]

👀

[wind karma]

the PBT keycaps literally are so smooth and shiny now they can reflect what i see on my monitor vaguely xd

[fluid ravine]

oh hell

i mean my wasd has a little shine

👀

[wind karma]

i mean

[fluid ravine]

what

the

hell

[wind karma]

yeah…

[pale aspen]

good news, it is not pbt keycap

sort of blend

[wind karma]

shine moment

[wind karma]

yup i dont expect that

[fluid ravine]

im good-

i take it back

[pale aspen]

i typed on pbt dyesub for like 8 months striaght no shine

but boring color, no shinethrough

[wind karma]

hehe my D key also has a slight dent

[fluid ravine]

i dont wanna see itr

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[wind karma]

thats good

[wind karma]

HAHA understandable

do pbtfans keycaps shine?

[fluid ravine]

when brain no work

💀

it shouldnt shine as fast as abs plastic

[wind karma]

i mean yeah

[fluid ravine]

HOLY FK MY BRAIN NOT WORKING

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[pale aspen]

yep they are still blend

[pale aspen]

but took longer than ABS

[fluid ravine]

ima just go wash my haire

[wind karma]

this is a key i dont touch ever

[fluid ravine]

alr figure it out cya in 12 hours 💀

[void hollow]

any better? xD
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[wind karma]

ah okay guess Dye sub is the only option IF i dont want any shine

[pale aspen]

you can get MTNU

[fluid ravine]

ok atleast im not listening to nail scratching
but that is still really sharp

[pale aspen]

but if you care about shine a lot

dyesub probably the best way

[fluid ravine]

finna get a new sound profile for that shi
not even clack anymore 😭

[wind karma]

mtnu? what’s that

[pale aspen]

GMK said it full PBT Doubleshot

[wind karma]

Yeah i don’t mind as long as theres no dents in the freaking shape of the keycap lol

[fluid ravine]

ok lemme think

[void hollow]

LMAO fr bruh, i pretty much just mixed two tapes for it

[woeful gyro]

does it damage anything if i use no dampening foam?

[wind karma]

oh yeah whars better about doubleshot btw

[pale aspen]

any quality would have no dent

[fluid ravine]

no

[pale aspen]

sharp legend

[woeful gyro]

thx

[wind karma]

ohh

okay

[fluid ravine]

np

[void hollow]

where ya get your gummy oring from

[fluid ravine]

@void hollow you remember what it was like with no tempest

[pale aspen]

what is your keeb color

[fluid ravine]

cannonkeys

[void hollow]

nope

[fluid ravine]

bakeneko60 30a

[fluid ravine]

damn

[wind karma]

me?

[pale aspen]

yes

[wind karma]

its black cause i use a stock gaming keyboard 😿

[fluid ravine]

cus i can easily make my board semi clack just from removing one layer of my tempest

[void hollow]

should i try removing the tempest xD

[pale aspen]

i would grabd something like this

it call

[fluid ravine]

try it

[wind karma]

i need help deciding a color scheme still lool

[pale aspen]

black on gray

[wind karma]

i want to try something with red

[fluid ravine]

one layer of tempest can change my whole board

so i wonder how it would goes it you tried it

[fluid ravine]

i kidna want something like that

or like cement gray

[wind karma]

that woyld be pretty clean

i want something a bit more striking though

for a color scheme

man i really want a klippe T now for looks alone

looks great

[stray tiger]

I love the Klippe and Fjell But the typing angle is rough

I tend to lean towards 4-6 degrees

[void hollow]

#1179300178281373716 message
no tempest

[wind karma]

yeah thats what I’m scared of lol

[stray tiger]

I guess that's what wrist rests are for but I prefer not to use em

[wind karma]

me too

is a 7 degree typing angle uncomfortable for you?

[stray tiger]

It's a bit too high for me. 6 or less is my preferred with 5 at the sweet spot

[wind karma]

i see

do you think you or i could get used to it

[stray tiger]

I also don't have a proper typing form so my hands don't rest like a normal typist

[wind karma]

i use a low typung angle keyboard rn

[stray tiger]

Oh for sure, you can get used to anything

Humans are amazingly adaptable lol

[void hollow]

if i passed you a keyboard that is 7 degree, but i tell you that it is 5 degree would you be able to tell the difference?

[wind karma]

alright ill force myself to get used to the klippe T then 😅

[stray tiger]

Me? Without a doubt

[wind karma]

atleast ill be proud of its appearance

[void hollow]

be proud

[dense flower]

Is the raptor HE more high pitch than the Lekker switches?

[wind karma]

any downside compared to the redux? like space for foam?

[wind karma]

yes!

[wind karma]

ah yes

[grizzled path]

lul I never noticed that, but your pic made me look at my caps as well

what the fuck happened here

[wind karma]

i have the same dent i think

[dense flower]

After testing the L45 I found them to be too light. The end force of the L60 is a little too heavy for my liking. I'm considering getting Raptor HE as it's in between the L45 and L60

[grizzled path]

I guess I strafe right a lot

[wind karma]

same

[wind karma]

haha bruh

[void hollow]

i strafe irl when i get flashbanged

[stray tiger]

That doesn't look good lol

[grizzled path]

it's even more drastic when I look at it live, should've put the lights on

[wind karma]

anyone with an answer?

[agile grove]

whats the best thock config for tofu redux?

[sweet oak]

Slept on keyboard

[wind karma]

i agree yuuna

[void hollow]

sorry i was just putting my keycaps back xD

[wind karma]

LOL

[sweet oak]

Relatable

[void hollow]

wtf i unlocked another sound im gonna go insane

[agile grove]

is it foam, o-ring mount, tape mod?

pc plate

anything else?

[wind karma]

pc plate yes

you want a pc plate for thock

[void hollow]

i have no clue since im not running a pc plate so yeah

[wind karma]

from what im told atleast

[void hollow]

i really wanna get my hands on one

lol this sounds a little better now dang

[sweet oak]

Im just waiting for that tkl

Gonna snag that in a heartbeat

[wind karma]

foam apparently you want thin foam because thick foam absorbs low frequency sounds? im not sure about o ring mod and tape mod

[void hollow]

wait i thought you want thick foam?

[wind karma]

same i thought that at first

[agile grove]

o-ring mount removes the screws which removes some ping I think, it dampens it

[wind karma]

i dont know i dont mod keyboards 😭

yet

[wind karma]

oh yes

but that isolates the case?

from the pcb i guess

[void hollow]

honestly i personally struggle from doing burger mount

im really looking forward to trying out gasket

[agile grove]

I think thin foam is for plastic cases, it'll sound hollow and pinging in an aluminum case without foam I think

[sweet oak]

Never tried board mods

[wind karma]

yeah true

[agile grove]

idk, the redux comes with a thing foam liner I might try some stuff out

[wind karma]

pinging is why you need foam in aluminium cases i guess

you might want to try that sound deadener stuff, dont know if youll like it or not

NOICO/kilmat

[jagged ermine]

is this all i need to burger mount?

[agile grove]

too expensive

I could get the amazon one

but I've already spent $333 on this keeb

[devout torrent]

get mlv

cheap from walmart

https://www.walmart.com/ip/Noise-Grabber-Mass-Loaded-Vinyl-50-lb-1-x-1-1-sq-ft-MLV-Soundproofing-5-Pack/359506682

great material too for sound dampening

[agile grove]

if I really wanted to in the future I might just go with polyfill

[lusty hull]

You can bike to a local hardware store and get screws for way cheaper

[jagged ermine]

ohh like home depot

[lusty hull]

Yeah

Probably o rings too. You should ask someone if you go

[agile grove]

I might try tape mod 2 and 3 layers painters tape, and 1 layer painters tape 1 layer electrical tape

[wind karma]

ye i mean amazon

[wind karma]

oh what

heard mlv is amazing too

try whatever is cheaper or easier to get your hands on ig

[torn summit]

This gmk first love set looks so good and its so cheap i might get it ngl

[void hollow]

this is my final unscrew of my 6 hour session, bless my fingers thank you

sound sample:
#1179300178281373716 message

[torn summit]

Time to get wooting, then a mouse, then this, then a coiled cable

[untold wigeon]

you gotta go luxury

buy a solid gold case

[austere creek]

i type on gold bullions

not just a gold case

[torn summit]

Do you one better get a pure diamond casing

[untold wigeon]

solid dwarfstar matter

[torn summit]

Honestly might get a custom strap for my wooting one day cuz its seems fun but thats for a far far far away day

[austere creek]

when i just saw that out of the corner of my eye i thought someone got a snake skin strap

[jagged ermine]

are they the right sizes?

[lusty hull]

You can ask and see if your local one has the right size. They sell a lot of different sizes

[frosty sentinel]

Redux case, gummy o ring mount (not sure how I’m going to get the PCB back out.. tight af), tape mod.. sounds decent I think !

[untold wigeon]

is there running water in the first sec

[frosty sentinel]

My heater was kickin on.. didn’t even realize it lol

[fluid ravine]

i back!

[agile grove]

yo exactly what im gonna do! sounds great, cant wait for my module to get in.

how many layers of tape?

I really like how that sounds.

[frosty sentinel]

3 layers mane

i wil say it deff takes some getting used to typing on this

[agile grove]

lubed switches or nah?

and PC plate im assuming?

[fluid ravine]

what plate are you using

if you're using the stock steel plate then it should be easy to take out

but ima need to know what plate you're using before i give instructions

[untold wigeon]

Kinda annoyed my the foam in the wooting didn't fit my redux

[frosty sentinel]

Im using the stock steel plate.. I will be swapping to the PC once my switch puller comes in

[agile grove]

it does

you have to take the bottom layer off

[untold wigeon]

For me it didn't

[fluid ravine]

oh fk you dont have a switch puller-

[untold wigeon]

wdym

[fluid ravine]

;-;

[frosty sentinel]

No.. imma newbie

[agile grove]

theres 2 layers to the foam

[frosty sentinel]

Gonna order from Amazon, any recommendations?

[agile grove]

damn that actually sounds really good for steel plate

[fluid ravine]

switch puller was gonna be your savior..

but ig you dont got the savior yet

[agile grove]

I dont have a switch puller and im doing gummy o-ring mount is that bad?

[fluid ravine]

no im saying like taking it out

is going to be struggle

[untold wigeon]

Can someone send me keyboard mod items

[fluid ravine]

you mean like tools?

or like what

[untold wigeon]

Nah like foam

or like

stuff like that

[fluid ravine]

specify

[untold wigeon]

No tools

[frosty sentinel]

Well i don’t really need to remove it.. I was just noting that it’ll be a pain in the butt when I do

[fluid ravine]

specify on what you want

like for what specific mods

[untold wigeon]

What mods are there

[frosty sentinel]

Im assuming removing all switches then pull the plate out, which will give plenty of room for o ring to come out

[fluid ravine]

#🪛│modding_faq

[sand oasis]

there are two foams joined by adhesive you can just remove the smaller one and fit in the bigger piece

[fluid ravine]

no
you can take a switch puller and hook it under the plate (Spacebar) and just pull up

or you can remove to switches at the bottom row like windows and right ctrl key and pull up with your fingers

or remove the |\ key and pull up from there

etc

mostly done with switch puller

[frosty sentinel]

Ahhh copy that

[void hollow]

im still so stuck on whether to make the purchase of 30sgd for one gummy oring

[untold wigeon]

Is it over for me chat

[loud zephyr]

The odds are pretty good, you'll either be satisfied or disappointed. Buy it!

[untold wigeon]

Can someone send me wooting foam

fr

[loud zephyr]

Rice is a good alternative to foam

[untold wigeon]

Im not asian

eeeeeh mazing

[loud zephyr]

THen use mash potatos

[untold wigeon]

Never back down 🤓

[untold wigeon]

At that point do you think If I released some sperm it would be a good lube replacement

it is

[loud zephyr]

[untold wigeon]

Proof

its on the hub

wooting

yeah

thats me

what of it

Dw

Send me ur keyboard

a pic?

sound

porfavor

[halcyon obsidian]

I would say
PC plate
raptors w/stem swap
OR tape mod L60s
poron switch pads
tempest mod (2 layers masking tape/1 lay moleskin)
gummy mount w/30-50a O-ring
case foam/polyfill
SA or MT3 pbt keycaps OR Cerakeys

[teal parcel]

has anyone filmed the lekker switches L60? or are there any films that would even fit?

[finite gate]

People have bent films to work but they degrade over time

No films are compatible

[agile grove]

raptors are clacky

[sand oasis]

wuqu studios are the ones i have

they are a bit fidly to install but not too bad

[untold wigeon]

Yo is there a place where I can send my keyboard and they will mod it for me

[finite gate]

Yeah send it to me

[untold wigeon]

Wyl

[finite gate]

Go on etsy or reddit

Loads of services

also some vendors

yk commisions

[teal parcel]

do they bend or anything or is it perfect fit?

[finite gate]

Alex has a build commision

[untold wigeon]

Who

[finite gate]

No films are compatible with lekkets

[finite gate]

You neeed to bend them

[finite gate]

Alexotos

[sand oasis]

its not a perfect fit

[finite gate]

https://www.alexotos.com/keyboard-build-service/

[sand oasis]

but its as good as you are going to get, there are a few other ones that work but i cant remember what they are off the top of my head

[untold wigeon]

Never heard of him

[void hollow]

those who love to find their own stuff
https://www.alexotos.com/keyboard-vendor-list/

[halcyon obsidian]

yeah but its the closet you can prob get on tofu

you mean he right?

like w/wooting

[void hollow]

im not really sure about the hype on the raptors tbh

[halcyon obsidian]

also switches dont "create" thock

[halcyon obsidian]

nah they fire

[finite gate]

ur crazy

Alexotos a g

[untold wigeon]

cap

[untold wigeon]

He just builds

I think

[agile grove]

I'd rather not purchase switches other than lekkers rn tbh

to my knowledge they're the cheapest

also im sure new, thockier, better sounding switches will release

[untold wigeon]

Change ur name

[agile grove]

no you change your's nick eh 30

[void hollow]

dont get me wrong on the raptors switches, but tbh i feel they're overhyped at this point, in which since companies are catching up to the HE hype, better switches should come into the market soon

[untold wigeon]

Ive been in the server longer then u

[agile grove]

your actual name is Grape tho

[halcyon obsidian]

right now there is pretty much just lekker and raptors

and raptors sound a ton better

not really over hype

[agile grove]

they are certainly overhyped lol

they may be worth it

but I feel like a lot of people are saying they're kinda a requirement at this point, I'd rather wait for better switches

[harsh dove]

Saying Raptors is a requirement is a stretch lol

It's literally just personal preference

As are most things with keyboard modding

[halcyon obsidian]

they arent a requirement

but they are certainly better

[void hollow]

honestly i dont mind spending money to mod the switches, but i feel like there's better to come tbh

[harsh dove]

Raptors are better but not a neccesity

Better ones will come out

But better is also subjective

[void hollow]

yeah i dont think i got an argument here for how much money i spend on random mods but yeah HAHA, i agree on this

[sand oasis]

i mean its pretty safe to say that at the moment the raptors are the best sounding HE switch regardless of objectivity

but as more HE switches come out then the sound profiles will become a lot more subjective

[untold wigeon]

Is there foam for the tofu 60redux that works with the poly materiel thing it came with in the box

[void hollow]

ye, at the moment

[harsh dove]

Yeah pretty much

Cause there's not a lot of competition

[sand oasis]

yeh thats my predicament, idk how long the moment will last

[harsh dove]

2024 we'll see a few new HE switches I think

[void hollow]

its just like wooting, we wont know how long the moment will last too

[sharp yew]

creamy wooting waiting room

[sand oasis]

yeh

the raptors arent too expensive so i might just test them out anyway

[void hollow]

hopefully wooting competition fails so our keyboard value stays up there

[halcyon obsidian]

jade sound test should be out in a week or so

[harsh dove]

Def gonna buy Jades just to test

[untold wigeon]

wdym

[halcyon obsidian]

and then there might be something "better"

[void hollow]

yea its a money hole

[harsh dove]

I'm pretty happy with my board rn, just buying stuff to test at this point

[fluid ravine]

oh lawd

[sand oasis]

yuh ive already sunk so much at this point

[fluid ravine]

im already at my end

[void hollow]

i meant it in the way whereby, in a period of time, there is meant to be a new sucessor to the current v1 and v2s

[harsh dove]

Nah bro you need Raptors

then Jades

[untold wigeon]

Broski mod my entire keyboard for 50 bucks fr

[void hollow]

be it wooting themselves come up with a new successor or another company does it

[fluid ravine]

https://tenor.com/view/broke-wallet-i-am-broke-no-money-no-cash-gif-24120042

[untold wigeon]

I'll add a 50 in there to mod my board

[sand oasis]

do it yourself bro its fun

[fluid ravine]

bet 😂
lemme just ask my parents for permission

Them: no

[void hollow]

ive really gotten into a small rabbit hole so far xD

900sgd

[untold wigeon]

I can't broski it's to hard

[sand oasis]

me after a night of drinking in london

[untold wigeon]

Is that you in ur pfp

[sand oasis]

do your ressearch take your time and its easy

[void hollow]

unless ur into having fun

then explore new options yourself

[void hollow]

tons of unscrewing and screwing

[fluid ravine]

my pfp?

yes thats me

[untold wigeon]

ye

[fluid ravine]

y

[untold wigeon]

Get ur hair off ur forehead please

[fluid ravine]

why

[untold wigeon]

You gotta be a man \

go bald

[fluid ravine]

im a boy

[void hollow]

good boy

[sand oasis]

i shaved my head in lockdown

10/10 would recommend in the summer

[untold wigeon]

Im bald rn

[fluid ravine]

A 6ft 15 year old asian boy that loves to mods his keyboard

[untold wigeon]

Go bald

[fluid ravine]

that will be in 60 years

[astral ocean]

is there a way to mod the OG wooting 60 to take some pcb stabs? or is this upgrade path not possible?

[fluid ravine]

😂

[astral ocean]

I cant seem to find an answer without coming to the 60HE+

[sand oasis]

think this your answer unfortantely

[fluid ravine]

you want to make the 60he compat with pcb stabs?

[untold wigeon]

Ima explore that gram rq

[void hollow]

if you're 15 and spending so much to mod keyboards, sponsor pls

[untold wigeon]

Im the average 16 year old in college

[astral ocean]

WOWOW that is really annoying, what am I gonna do with a spare pcb and its really gonna be like I have to buy another keyboard just to get rid of stabilizer rattle 😭

[fluid ravine]

i havent even spend as much as yalkl lol

[void hollow]

no wayyy

[finite gate]

Get tx ap platemounts

[untold wigeon]

No way

[void hollow]

is shipping there that cheap

[sand oasis]

could try get the tx plate mount stabs ive heard good things

[void hollow]

tx ap stabs

rev 4

[astral ocean]

they make those? I thought plate mount stabs were taboo

nice, ill check them out if that seems to be the only option, thanks guys

[void hollow]

well they're ap "almost perfect" so idk

[fluid ravine]

yes wayy

[sand oasis]

does it matter what size i get for pcb thickness or nah if they are plate mount

[void hollow]

1.6

[fluid ravine]

depends on what site

[sand oasis]

ty

[void hollow]

me trying to bait my friends "please buy graveshift m sized o rings with me"

so i dont spend 23 dollars on pure shipping

[agile grove]

just move to the US

[void hollow]

buy extras, resell to cover my fees :D

[harsh dove]

$50 for some Orings is insane

[void hollow]

EXACTLY RIGHT?

if im buying one im paying 30 dollars so id rather spend another 16 dollars and pray people will get it from me

[harsh dove]

yeah ig so lol

[agile grove]

why is it $24? my subtotal was $5.45.

[void hollow]

3 of it, and currency conversion 1.4 usd = 1sgd

[stable kindle]

I feel like I could go to a specialized plumbing store and find silicone o-rings for less than $5

[void hollow]

true but honestly i wouldn't know what would fit

[harsh dove]

Just bring keyboard with you to store and find something that fits or ask them lol

[teal parcel]

Is there any videos on 60he+ besides badseed?

[pale aspen]

taobao

singaporean

taobao good

[pale aspen]

i wish you live near China

a year ago when i had disposable $

i spent on keeb like crazy

ten of switches

[onyx pier]

yea

i bought the raptors before it came out it was like 69 or something on their website (65 switches)

but taobao with shipping and 70 switches is like 49 or something

damn

should have waited abit more

[pale aspen]

i sold raptor at cost to gamer before taobao listing lol

kbdfan and hyberboring sell in China

if i am dumb enough

i might buy Holy60

[onyx pier]

hyberboring?

never heard of that before

its a store at taobao?

[pale aspen]

they make plate and pcb

mostly know for 3rd party tiger lite

yep

[onyx pier]

oo i shall go and take a look

where are you getting the holy60 from

[pale aspen]

probably kbdfan taobao

if im dumb

[onyx pier]

i think that is the only place available

[pale aspen]

i hate how every HE board delay to almost at the same time

Late Jan

now stucking use Mode sonnet

[onyx pier]

i mean its close to new years thats why

unfortunate timing

[marble shuttle]

https://tenor.com/view/donbrothers-totaro-looking-searching-looking-for-food-gif-27443298

🤣

[fathom cave]

Tofu60 redux navy
GEON works Raptor HE switches
KBDfans carbon plate
GMK Blue Samurai keycaps
Stock stabs (waiting for 60HE+ PCB for my gateron v2’s)

[velvet egret]

Looks very nice

[fathom cave]

Thank you, I really love the GEON switches, they have less stem wobble compared to the Wooting Lekker switches. Something I hope is addressed in the future by Wooting themselves

Flawless switch between switches as well, GEON says they might need recalibration depending on what PCB they’re put on, but Wooting was a perfect swap, no issues thus far

[velvet egret]

Others have mentioned that the Raptor Magnet is stronger than the magnet in the lekker switch. This is coming from people who have tested this and who have also had contact with GEON themselves.

[steady canopy]

Hey, i would like to know if the module would fit my OG tofu60%. Basically its not the redux or the 2.0, its like the first version lol. any answer would be appreciated

[bronze grove]

Yes.

[wind karma]

it should work f

[steady canopy]

thx for fast reply wow!

[fathom cave]

Hmm I’ve not noticed anything of the sort, but I also don’t generally bottom out my switches because I play with light actuation and don’t press to hard

[glacial wind]

it's only the start that's ever so slightly more sensitive, rest feels pretty same-same

so like 0.5 feels like 0.3 or similar, but the difference is minimal enough that I think a lot of folks may not even notice

[steady canopy]

1 more question sry, because im about to order. Is there other fees if im canada, Qc?

like customs

[wind karma]

well do you think with a firmware update it would be possible to calibrate through software? or is calibration on like a hardware level…

[glacial wind]

sure, but it's not an actual issue so i don't know why they would

i could see them maybe adding calibration for other switches in the future maybe, but it's a pretty minor thing that doesn't really have gameplay impact on people so i doubt it'd be high priority

the solution already exists without them doing anything. If it's too sensitive you just raise the sens up a tad

[bronze grove]

The duties are included for Canadian orders 🙂

[steady canopy]

thx :)

[steady canopy]

Just oredered!

[bronze grove]

[steady canopy]

idk why i have 2 roles of orders

[dense flower]

To clarify. The magnets are stronger on the Raptor so roughly .5 actuation will feel like .3 on the lekkers?

[glacial wind]

Yep, roughly speaking that’s how much I adjusted my sens to make the strafe timings feel similar in games

[dense flower]

I see. After using L60 for three weeks I swapped out some of the keys I use for gaming for the L45s. First impression was L45s felt too light. I found myself misclicking a lot even after raising the actuation point. Since the actuation end point on the L60 feels a little too heavy and L45s feel a little too light I’m considering trying the Raptors as it’s right in between

Are you using the raptors with the stem it came with or did you replace it with the Lekkers?

[glacial wind]

I did both stock raptors and stem swapped. I preferred stock mostly because stem swap raptors feel a little tight making the switches feel like L65-L70

[dense flower]

Is the 7g actuation end force difference between the Raptors and L45 noticeable?

[glacial wind]

For me yeah but the difference isn’t crazy huge

I don’t like l45 myself as they’re a bit lighter than I personally prefer

[dense flower]

Likewise. Felt a lot lighter than I’d expected

[dense flower]

As for sound did you find the Raptors to be more clacky compared to the Lekkers or is it basically the same?

[onyx pier]

yes raptors is clacky

[dense flower]

Ty. Since I don’t like clacky I might wait to see what the future holds

[glacial wind]

Clacky but I wouldn’t necessarily say more clacky than lekkers. More like you take the lekker sound and remove the plastic rattle sound and what’s left is a mix of he clack sound

[pale aspen]

just lube it

and if you want Thock

tape mod , case foam

Thick keycap

plastic case

[dense flower]

Planning on lubing for sure

[pale aspen]

oh plate too, PC

[dense flower]

So in reality it’s splitting hairs comparing the sound of lekkers vs raptors

[glacial wind]

oh no i wouldn't say that. The sound difference is very noticable if you're used to lekkers

but clack vs thock is different conversation

lekkers generally don't have clack or thock, they just sound plasticky

[dense flower]

I actually didn’t mind the stock lekker sound. Definitely noticed and liked the muted sound after hand lubing the switches though

[glacial wind]

yeah the thing to keep in mind is anytime people say thock/clack etc it's not good or bad thing, they're just describing the sound profile in custom switches

with lekkers most enthusiast wouldn't even put them into a category because they're just bad by custom standards

[dense flower]

I finally have a better idea of thock and clack after hearing and watching several videos. I definitely prefer a more muted thock

[glacial wind]

right now it's not really possibly to get to real thock levels with wooting just due to HE switches all being on the clackier side unfortunately

eventually someone might release a switch that does real thocky sound but until then it's pretty tough to really get to the level you'd see in customs

[dense flower]

Since I don’t have a lot of experience I was comparing the clacky sound to cherry mx blues, which I despise

[glacial wind]

the sound difference is definitely noticable in raptors vs lekker, mostly because they take the rattly chatter sound out

[dense flower]

Aside from the way it sounds (clacky, thocky, etc) is there a noticeable difference in terms of loudness (dBA)?

[glacial wind]

any loudness difference is mostly just from the lack of the chatter sound

[dense flower]

Gotcha. Thanks

[glacial wind]

For example this is lekker vs a fairly entry level lubed custom

the 2nd is where people would like to get he switches to but it'll take time because the switch that sounds like that doesn't really exist yet for he

[velvet egret]

oh yehhhh that second keyboard is godly

[wind karma]

😢

[dense flower]

That’s for sharing a video. The second one sounds amazing

That’s the ideal sounding keyboard for me

[north mason]

does anyone have a vid of Cerakeys on wooting?, Im wondering If the 60g is strong enough for the spacebar.

[bronze grove]

Apparently the spacebar is a bit too heavy. But we're bringing a box of springs in varying size to market soon, raising the potential to L80 and L100

[north mason]

Thats great news, thanks.

[velvet egret]

LEAKKKKKKSSSSSSSSSSSS

[bronze grove]

This is not new information 😄

We've been saying this for a while.

[velvet egret]

the springs not but the Grams of the spring is new to me

[bronze grove]

#archived_the_lekker_switch message

We talked about the range on a livestream a while ago.

You're going to LOVE the packaging.

[velvet egret]

Thanks yeah i was on holidays then make sense i missed it then

[torn summit]

mama mia

[untold wigeon]

true

[marble shuttle]

time to ship module tell your boss

[bronze grove]

Can't ship what we don't have in stock yet.

[marble shuttle]

nah it has a stock i can feel it already in warehouse 😄

[bronze grove]

https://tenor.com/view/sure-jan-if-you-say-so-whatever-do-gif-12806724

[marble shuttle]

🤣

[uncut musk]

excited to mod the tf out of this, what all do you guys think i should do

[normal schooner]

u dont like cases with straps?

[normal schooner]

also you will need keycaps and stabs

[halcyon obsidian]

it comes with stabs?

[normal schooner]

ooh yes it does

[halcyon obsidian]

Now I think throwing in some tx ap stabs is worth while but def not a requirement

[normal schooner]

checkout #🪛│modding_faq

[hard hawk]

Stock case, raptor he with lekker stem, stock stabs, 1 layer of medi tape, 2 layers of painter tape, plumber mod

[untold wigeon]

snap snap

[hard hawk]

Def snap snap

[pulsar ravine]

Switches are lubed and not to get all the new goodies together.

[heady terrace]

how do i get an o ring mount out?

i was trying to switch my stabs and forgot that the oring stays in place bc of the stab on the backspace

[halcyon obsidian]

either take it apart or pull out the board and try and push the o-ring to the outside with something thin just cautious of the pcb

[halcyon obsidian]

sounds pretty decent, snap could use work tho

[hard hawk]

🥲

[agile grove]

I like it, spacebar is a little off tho could use some tx stabs. maybe next time use a mouse click rather than a snap.

[hard hawk]

True 🥲

[wispy wigeon]

is that armada 25?

[hard hawk]

Yes

[wispy wigeon]

how's it?

I wanna buy it as well

[hard hawk]

I actually like it

Response time is nice

The arm is useful imo

I got it off by a lot

[wispy wigeon]

Thanks

[hard hawk]

Tx stabs are something I want to get but can’t get atm

I do know that the stabs are hitting the pcb, like bottom out

[agile grove]

you could do bandaid mod

[hard hawk]

I might do that

I’m still trying to change some stuff

Might take out the silicone between the pcb and plate

I dunno just testing stuff for now

[heady terrace]

neither ways are working 😭😭😭😭

it’s so hard to pull the whole thing out and i can’t get something to stay while i put the stab in

[agile grove]

the foam one is better for thock

[heady terrace]

also anyone using tx ap plate mount stand be careful of the tight tolerances

it might get ur key stuck or feel really slow

[agile grove]

you just need to break them in

or lube them

[uncut musk]

yeye i got keycaps right now, later on i’ll probably get a real nice set to match with case color, also i dont mind the strap just just prefer the more simple look of some of the 3rd party cases

[heady terrace]

lubing them did nothing for the tightness of it lol

[agile grove]

then you probably just have to break them in

[halcyon obsidian]

thats crazy I just went to the mechkeys discord asking for mod advice got bullied for saying I plan to gummy mount my tofu and then got told I should have done more research and have an open mind when I never even asked about what mount style I should do then got ejected

[polar girder]

Jesus lol

Toxic

[stray otter]

Nerds being toxic...

No but seriously that sucks. I hate that our dorky communities can be as bad or worse as the mainstream when it comes to attacking people's opinion or views.

[halcyon obsidian]

idk if any of yall are in there but you should read it if you are in kb-help

I actually thought it was crazy

[wind karma]

dude wtf

i fear public discords

[halcyon obsidian]

I'm more at awe cause it was just straight mods and helpers going in on me

[crimson sky]

The tofu only does one mounting style lol

And that's tray

[halcyon obsidian]

absolutely correct

[crimson sky]

Just because you put in an o ring doesn't mean you o ring mounted it

[halcyon obsidian]

but you can still friction mount it witha burger mount or gummy o ring

[crimson sky]

It's still a tray mount

[halcyon obsidian]

does it give it that gasket mount feel nope

[crimson sky]

Just because it is held with friction doesn't mean it isn't a tray mount

Cause it still sits on the mounting points

[halcyon obsidian]

yes! but it makes it screwless and I find it tends to produces a better sound in certian parts of the board in the just tray mounting it

[crimson sky]

Yea sound would still change

Not as much tho

[halcyon obsidian]

but if it makes it screwless (easier to pull out), produces a better sound (even if slightly), and is dirt cheap why not do it?

[wind karma]

whats different about burger mount, gummy o ring and or whatever involves an O ring im confused

[halcyon obsidian]

also you can simulate a gasket feeling by adding polly fill (which really just makes it a little bouncy) which some people may like but that is more niche

[halcyon obsidian]

also this is same argument they made and I gave the same points and was told I was whining and not being open minded

[vivid gulch]

Is the module PCB 1.2 or 1.6 and can I switch out the stabs for clip ins?

[halcyon obsidian]

1.6!

[bronze grove]

60HE is plate mount only.
60HE module (also known as 60HE+) has a slightly reworked PCB that allows for screw in.

[vivid gulch]

Yeah I’m looking at the module, so I guess 60HE+. Can I put in clip-in stabs instead of the screw in?

[pale aspen]

module support PCB screw-in and PCB Clip in

but clip in if you want to do oring

[halcyon obsidian]

I ordered the tx ap rev4 1.6 base kit (so a 6.25u and 2u's)

[coral lynx]

I just want to know if the Carbon Fiber ANSI Plate from kbdfans works with the Alumaze60 case. Are there any issues during installation? If you've done this before, do you have any pictures to share? Many thanks 🙏🏻

[wind karma]

that makes no sense

[halcyon obsidian]

yeah I ended up leaving I after got put in timeout but I just thought I would share my experience

[vivid gulch]

And then the 60HE+ only comes with plate foam right? Not sheet foam/PCB foam? Wonder if I could get some from another keyboard kit and cut it as needed.

[bronze grove]

Module comes with the PC plate kit. Silicone? preinstalled, foam included.

https://wooting.io/product/60he-pc-switch-plate

[halcyon obsidian]

so pc plate, and a choice of silicone or poron foam for the pcb

and then a layer of foam for an alu case

[bronze grove]

Yep

[pulsar ravine]

It’s ready for some games

[marble shuttle]

did pcb behind screw positions are changed or they are same ?

[wind karma]

really nice

still in love with that case lol

[pulsar ravine]

Feels so much better in an aluminum case. Also buttery now with the lubed and lighter switches/springs.

[wind karma]

yup! i didn't know aluminum cases felt different to plastic though?

[pulsar ravine]

The weight is what sells it for me. The plastic case felt too light and almost cheap.

[halcyon obsidian]

anyone know of any keycaps that would match the the viper mini se so just like black with silver ascents?

[harsh dove]

https://www.etsy.com/listing/1240273215/oem-electroplated-metallic-matte-silver

Could get this and then another black set maybe mix n match

[vivid gulch]

What switches did you use?

[wind karma]

oh yeah i just remembered the aluminium cases like the redux and klippe are double the weight of my keyboard lol

[sweet cedar]

new gateron switches on aliexpress now!

https://www.aliexpress.us/item/1005006362746758.html?spm=a2g0n.productlist.0.0.4212Lvi7Lvi7Qv&browser_id=3afdb9b60a604a1b91ce6baf3425e1e9&aff_platform=msite&m_page_id=btsghjrfeqccauzh18c8d8c1bc616531161c4e009a&gclid=&pdp_npi=4%40dis!CAD!91.52!91.52!!!66.99!!%402103241d17031818188071485e7538!12000036899128997!sea!CA!0!AB&algo_pvid=11d10abd-beb7-45f0-ac35-3451737a8cd5&_universallink=1&m_page_id=btsghjrfeqccauzh18c8d8c1bc616531161c4e009a

[halcyon obsidian]

so is the travel 0.2-3.5?

[velvet egret]

They are pricey though

[halcyon obsidian]

probably around 60 for a set

[velvet egret]

75,77 euros for 70 switches

L60 were 20 euros (due to discount with module) Raptors were 54 euros

[halcyon obsidian]

they are cheaper not on aliexpress

just on gaterons website

[glacial wind]

That price for 70 is kind of crazy pricy on aliex

[halcyon obsidian]

yeah idk why its more expensive

I think a full set is 56 usd on gateron

[velvet egret]

You got a link can't seem to find them

[halcyon obsidian]

https://www.gateron.com/products/gateron-magic-jade-switch

for some reason the page isnt working for me right now

[velvet egret]

I just get a blank page

[halcyon obsidian]

but it was yesterday

[velvet egret]

ah so it's not only me

[halcyon obsidian]

https://www.gateron.com/products/

[velvet egret]

Maybe they are updating the page

[halcyon obsidian]

you can see them here tho

[velvet egret]

quick view also works

[sand oasis]

has anyone got the swtiches in hand yet?

[velvet egret]

Don't believe so

[halcyon obsidian]

yeah so its 56 for 70

[velvet egret]

I think some peeps have orderd them and will have them next week but not 100% sure

[halcyon obsidian]

yes they have!