🔧│keyboard_modding

[wind karma]

yupp ill find out how to get a "MARBLY/CREAMY" sound with a 60HE

gonna find the secret formula

[loud zephyr]

I found the fountain of cream for your board

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1zLFkrxoRnQ

[wind karma]

what the freak.

sounds like hitmarkers

HAHA

[loud zephyr]

it even allows you to change to a higher pitched tone. wizard keyboard

[fluid ravine]

im

home

😭

[loud zephyr]

Welcome home

[fluid ravine]

amzing

was so amzing i spelled amazing wrong

[loud zephyr]

spelling is overrated

[fluid ravine]

fax

[loud zephyr]

just blame auto correction

[wind karma]

no high end customs to my knowledge do this (theyre SCAMS!)

[loud zephyr]

Solenoid keyboards do but not sure why anyone would want to use it

[wind karma]

i honestly have no clue how a solenoid keyboard works

first time hearing of it

[fluid ravine]

im fking bored
but i dont wanna read the whole chat

damnit

[loud zephyr]

Just a bunch of folks lubing and doing funny things to their keyboards

[fluid ravine]

going back in time

[harsh dove]

Back to Stock Raptors w/ Salvation and Alumaze Case Foam

[fluid ravine]

sounding gud

👍

[harsh dove]

Basically sounds the same as Raptor with Lekker Stem

I prefer the feel of the stock Raptor stem though

[shrewd hatch]

Yo @harsh dove @fluid ravine can I lube my stabilizer wires with 205?

Also which part of the stavilizer housing should I lube?

[fluid ravine]

yes you can but its not recommended

[harsh dove]

I wouldn’t

Lube the housing and stem with 205g0 if you like

But not the wires

[fluid ravine]

1. Its quite thin
2. krytox is expensive so you would be wasting it if you do use it for the wire

[shrewd hatch]

I don't mind about wasting it, I got no grease though ATM. Could I apply quite a thick layer?

[fluid ravine]

i mean sure....

it will break in over time so there will be a most likely chance you will have to reapply

[shrewd hatch]

Aight might just do that for now until I can get my hands on some, ty!

[fluid ravine]

no problemo

[fluid ravine]

if you're in the US
you can find some dielectric grease from auto stores

[shrewd hatch]

Down in Australia man, there's some at an auto store near me but it's 20 bucks lol

[fluid ravine]

holy-

idk if thats alot xd

20 aud right?

[harsh dove]

It’s quite runny so I’d not do too much, you’ll probably end up with some on your PCB lol

[fluid ravine]

20 aud to USD is $13

thats a average price

well kinda

depends on oz i guessing

[shrewd hatch]

I found some silicone grease that I used on some gym equipment a while back? Will this work

[harsh dove]

Yeah should be alright to try that , basically the same thing

[shrewd hatch]

Cheers bro

Anyone else running switch pads on their boards? Think mine might be playing up

[harsh dove]

I’m not personally, I only have pads under my stabs

[devout torrent]

what mods?

that sounds insane

[harsh dove]

Salvation w/ Alumaze Case Foam (even though you’re not supposed too)
GMK Dualshot
Raptor HEs Hand Lubed 205g0/Springs w/ SuperLube Oil
TX AP Stabs w/ Dielectric and 205g0
Stabilizer Pads and Wire Pads
1 Layer Moleskin Tape
PC Plate w/ Plate Foam
I think that’s it

[shrewd hatch]

What's stabilizer/wire pads? This just when u put a piece of bandaid underneath the wires?

[harsh dove]

Similar, I have actual cut out foam pads that are 0.1mm thin poron foam and then I have pieces of foam on the plate for the wires that they kinda just rest on

I’ll take a pic

[gaunt linden]

Can someone help me?

[fluid ravine]

wsg

[gaunt linden]

This ones seem to not work

When i press them down it gets stuck

[fluid ravine]

what is this one

[gaunt linden]

Wym

[quiet bay]

which one

[fluid ravine]

specify the problem

[gaunt linden]

That when i put the keycaps on and press down on them they get stuck

They don’t come back up

And i have to take them out

Could the stabs be the prob?

[fluid ravine]

you're saying when you put on the keycaps on the modifiers
they dont come up?

what stabs do you have atm

[gaunt linden]

I used tx ap stabs

[fluid ravine]

same

[gaunt linden]

Yes

[fluid ravine]

take a stem holder

and use it on the stem of the stabilizer

if it moves up and down fine

then its the keycap tolerance

this seems to be a common problem with tx ap stabs ;-;

[gaunt linden]

Is there a fix to this?

[fluid ravine]

i got mine to work

[gaunt linden]

Damn it lol

[fluid ravine]

you know how you would have to break in lube?
i do the same thing, just spam the shit out of them until they work normally.
If they're stuck just use your fingers and move it up and down as much as possible

if its returning slowly to its initial position, you can start spamming it and see what happens

if you do it long enough it should work fine

[gaunt linden]

Oh okey i can try it and i hope it works!

Lol

Thanks alot

[fluid ravine]

so technically its just the keycap tolerance

[gaunt linden]

Wym by keycap tolerance?

[fluid ravine]

Ok idk how to explain it rn but ima try my best
Keycap tolerance is how the keycap fits onto the stem.
So in this case the keycap tolerance on the tx ap stabs is high. Which mean they fit very tightly causing it to not return to its inital position. You can replace the stabilizer housing and still have the problem due the the stem and keycap

[fluid ravine]

what effect does it give

[harsh dove]

Effect: Better

[fluid ravine]

😂

making me wanna try this but not if i know what it does xd

https://www.google.com/search?client=opera-gx&q=how+to+stop+stabilizer+ticking&sourceid=opera&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8#kpvalbx=_X5V_ZdSdDoKmmtkP8_OJuA0_28

[harsh dove]

Well the pads are nice to reduce the sound of the stabilizer stem hitting the PCB and then the foam under the wires just helps eliminate any rattle

[fluid ravine]

was it from this?

[harsh dove]

Tbh I didn’t watch anything on it

I just wanted to do it and saw a lil kit

[fluid ravine]

huh

they did it

ok what i use :)

[harsh dove]

https://youtu.be/UhIiCmxtMmA?si=PGS_p6KTGtcSpbhC

This is the same idea

[fluid ravine]

oh ye thats what i sent

i didnt send the link from yt xd

[harsh dove]

Oh ok lol

[fluid ravine]

@gaunt linden I can't fix my left shift stab

I have to replace it with the stock stab

[harsh dove]

Still wild to me

[fluid ravine]

Fr

[harsh dove]

He's just sad

gotta cheer em up

[fluid ravine]

Stock stab

[fluid ravine]

;(

[harsh dove]

Have you tried swapping stabs stems with another?

[fluid ravine]

different stem with the tx ap housing/

[harsh dove]

Yeah

[shrewd hatch]

@harsh dove @fluid ravine hey have any vids on lubing stabilizer housing? They didn't even do it in the wooting guide lmao

[fluid ravine]

ok holdup

[fluid ravine]

just take a little dab of lube on your brush
and brush it in the housing

if you do it correctly
the lube should have a shiny reflective coating

there shouldnt be any white glob of lube

[harsh dove]

Just lube the inner walls of the housing with a light coat and same with the two flat walls on the stabilizer stem

[shrewd hatch]

Ye but not sure which parts

[fluid ravine]

the walls

holdup

both wall

[shrewd hatch]

Ah OK just the inner?

[fluid ravine]

yep

[harsh dove]

Yeah

[shrewd hatch]

How about on the stems?

Just the stem bit

[harsh dove]

I did on mine

Just a thin layer on either side

[fluid ravine]

@harsh dove

i just swapped the stem

with the stock stem

it works

fine

[harsh dove]

Lmao

Nice

[fluid ravine]

so yeah its the tolerance between the stem and keycap

[harsh dove]

Yeah most likely

[fluid ravine]

dont lube that

leave it alone

[shrewd hatch]

Ohhh what

Isn't that the stem

[fluid ravine]

you only lube the parts in the stabilizers that make contact

[harsh dove]

Yeah that’s where the keycap attaches

Don’t need lube on that lol

[fluid ravine]

the whole piece is the stem

[shrewd hatch]

Ah I see

So inside here

[gaunt linden]

Yes mine is like that or it kinda goes back up but not to its fullest

[harsh dove]

Yeah the two flat walls

[shrewd hatch]

Gotchu

And nothing on the smaller bit?

Or just the outwide

Side

[harsh dove]

You can do the two flat walls on the side of the smaller bit if you want as well

[harsh dove]

Yeah like that^

[shrewd hatch]

Lot clearer, thanks guys will give it a shot now

[fluid ravine]

👍

[sand oasis]

yo you a football fan?

[fluid ravine]

dad was watching

[sand oasis]

shout out to your dad

[fluid ravine]

fax

[sand oasis]

tell him to support fulham

[fluid ravine]

haha

he sleepin

on the grampa couch

[sand oasis]

what team does he support

[fluid ravine]

i have no clue

[sand oasis]

yikes

[fluid ravine]

i dont pay attention

[sand oasis]

well you can just support fulham

[gaunt linden]

@fluid ravine could you fix it?

[fluid ravine]

haha

[fluid ravine]

cant fix it for the left shift

every other modifiers are fine though

got them fix

[gaunt linden]

Did you get them fix by doing the method you showed me?

[fluid ravine]

yep

[gaunt linden]

Ok ima try it

[fluid ravine]

how else would i get that method 😂

left shift just unlcuky tho

welp

[harsh dove]

You talkin about stem swap?

[fluid ravine]

nah

[fluid ravine]

a fix to the modifiers being stuck

[harsh dove]

For the stabs?

oh

[fluid ravine]

yeah

the problem i had

[fluid ravine]

move it up and down

[harsh dove]

Yeah did you have him stem swap?

[fluid ravine]

nah

[harsh dove]

oh

[fluid ravine]

i didnt do it

[gaunt linden]

Ima try it like this and if it doesn’t work ima do the stem swap

[harsh dove]

Did you stem swap on yours to fix it though?

Liike I recommended?

[fluid ravine]

nah i just use the stock stab just for the left shift

[harsh dove]

Oh okay, I thought you stem swapped and it worked

[fluid ravine]

think the major difference between the stock and tx ap is the stem

sooo

[fluid ravine]

no like it works but i didnt do it

didnt keep it like that

[harsh dove]

ahhhhhh

gotcha gotcha

what about swapping the tx ap left shift stab stem with another tx ap stab stem ?

[fluid ravine]

WAIT

PAUSE

[harsh dove]

instead of a stock stem

[fluid ravine]

SOMETHING AINT RIGHT

WOT

@stray tiger

[sand oasis]

that is super werid

[fluid ravine]

my dumbass on the backspace

anyways

wtf...

i even swap out the stab for another tx ap stab

and it still doesnt work

[sand oasis]

maybe unscrew it out of the case and screw it back

little bit of cope never hurt anyone

[fluid ravine]

im using gummy mount

[sand oasis]

oh

try it anyway

[fluid ravine]

and i dont have the gummy oring in the thing atm

[fluid ravine]

try wut

[sand oasis]

take it out of the case and put it back in

[fluid ravine]

;-;

with wut

like

with juist gummy mount?

trasy mount..

no mount

something..

even no case it still doesnt return

[sand oasis]

oh

no point taking it out

but when you just lift it up it still returns right

ahh yeh it does

https://tenor.com/view/meme-you-cant-outsmart-me-thinking-use-your-head-smile-gif-17109386

just rebind left shift to something else

assume the switch still works when you press it without any stabs

[loud zephyr]

Does the stock l-shift keycap work ok?

[stray tiger]

Flip the key around and see if it still sticks. If yes, try the stock keycap. If it still sticks it's your stabilizer

[fluid ravine]

I did it boys :)

I will work on them later but finally got the left shift to work

[sand oasis]

what was the issue?

[loud zephyr]

skillz

[fluid ravine]

i have no clue but just skill diff

it still needs to break in

but i got it

[halcyon obsidian]

what mods do you have to ur stabs?

[fluid ravine]

just lube and grease

[finite gate]

Its the grease

Grease on stem or housing = sticky

[fluid ravine]

?

what you talking about

[finite gate]

Your stab was not coming up right

[fluid ravine]

no incorrect

you're not wrong

[finite gate]

oh

[fluid ravine]

but that isnt the case

[finite gate]

so what is

[fluid ravine]

even with nothing
like full out stock

it still will have the problem

[finite gate]

wat happening

[fluid ravine]

by this point i have no clue why it happen

it was mostly keycap tolerance

but since i got it to fix

idk why now

[finite gate]

glorious product qc is funny

and so are their molds

so yeah

[fluid ravine]

well this can happen to any other keycaps

not just glorious alone

but youre not wrong

[finite gate]

except other brands have better qc and cs

[untold wigeon]

has anyone used the tofu60 redux case without the brass insert?

[fluid ravine]

what you need to kknow

i can try to fill you in

[untold wigeon]

just considering buying it since my old keyboard was aluminum, but i wanna know if ppl regret NOT buying the brass weight

[fluid ravine]

it just increases weight

optional

[untold wigeon]

does it still feel hefty compared to the stock case? did you fill that gap where the brass goes with foam or something?

[fluid ravine]

stock wooting case?

[untold wigeon]

yeah

[fluid ravine]

ofc
the redux is a alu case while the stock is made out of ABS plastic

i have a GH60 alu case (tofu v1 clone) which also has a gap for the battery or weight insert

i only fill it with foam or polyfill

One user uses weights to fill it in

[untold wigeon]

gotcha, thanks. also do you play valorant lol? asking because of the name

[fluid ravine]

yep

[fluid ravine]

fyi
the redux case is 0.8 kg (1.76 lb)

with brass its 1.08 kg (2.38 lb)

acrylic is 0.4 kg (0.88 lb)

[untold wigeon]

gotchu. i spilled water on my gmmk pro and destroyed it recently so i decided to make the switch to wooting, i liked how hefty my previous kb felt so i wanted to get an alu case for it, thanks for the info you've given

[fluid ravine]

no problemo
and rip gmmk pro

it was expensive wasnt it

[untold wigeon]

im moving on to better things 😎

[fluid ravine]

:)

going to buy the module?

[untold wigeon]

yeah but its okay, it served me for a couple of years, i didnt even really trick it out, only had the basic red linears on it

[fluid ravine]

oh damn

[fluid ravine]

lynx? or actual cherry mx reds

[untold wigeon]

and some corny pudding keycaps

[fluid ravine]

;-;

damn

[untold wigeon]

i think they were gateron reds but i dont remember brotha

[fluid ravine]

damn

😭

[untold wigeon]

yeah....

going for a much more minimal look this time around...

[quiet bay]

It looks so…aluminum

[fluid ravine]

👀

if i get really bored ima go straight into modding

[quiet bay]

My wooting is good as it is rn 😌

[untold wigeon]

@fluid ravine what rank are you in valo?

[fluid ravine]

guess

im pretty ass

[untold wigeon]

diamond 1

[fluid ravine]

nope

lel

[untold wigeon]

plat 2

[quiet bay]

⬇️

[fluid ravine]

close

kind of

ig

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[untold wigeon]

naw bruh this cant be for lil tenz..

[fluid ravine]

well thats what everyone calls me

[untold wigeon]

gold 3??

[fluid ravine]

g2

will be on my way for plat this break

[untold wigeon]

zamn my smurf is higher than that

[fluid ravine]

got 2 weeks off

[fluid ravine]

kewl

[quiet bay]

Lucky

[untold wigeon]

get on that grind

[fluid ravine]

will do

once i fix my fdking shoulder

and get a ACTUAL mousepad 💀

[untold wigeon]

i love my mousepad but the edges have gotten so fuzzy

[fluid ravine]

dawg i got a QCK M SIZE

i be losing my CLUTCHES from just running out of mousespace

its not even funny

[untold wigeon]

i dont know anything about the mousepad world

[untold wigeon]

i just have a aqua control + and it has served me well

[fluid ravine]

comparing a medium to a large

i regret making this purchase by alot

[fluid ravine]

@quiet bay

[fluid ravine]

https://www.amazon.com/X-Raypad-Aqua-Control-Plus-Requirements/dp/B09QCL5DBC?th=1 this?

[untold wigeon]

ya

[untold wigeon]

i bought it directly from them tho cause i bought a big one

[fluid ravine]

um i dont think they spelled that right

[fluid ravine]

ah

[untold wigeon]

yeah idk about the legitimacy of that amazon listing lol

[fluid ravine]

well nvm i take it back

wait no

fk

[untold wigeon]

i bought it straight from their website, had to wait for it to arrive from china. liked it so much i bought my girlfriend one

[fluid ravine]

interesante

[marsh saffron]

Who the hell typed all that

[fluid ravine]

man idfk 💀

[marsh saffron]

Giving me a fucking stroke reading it

[fluid ravine]

LMAO

[untold wigeon]

yeah totally a legitimate amazon page. the appraisals are outstanding!

professional youtubers recomand

[quiet bay]

Damn you got one small ass mousepad 💀

[quiet bay]

The english goes hard 🔥

[fluid ravine]

bro someone lvl 306 bronze 1 😂

[stable kindle]

anyone here have a artisan zero mouse pad?

[finite gate]

LMAOOOOOOOOOOOO

do u want speed hybrid or control

[fluid ravine]

i hab no clue

hybrid ig?

;-;

something like the qck but a little bit faster

ig

[onyx pier]

https://youtu.be/EgZt05d0fTs?si=y-jhBIzh2XnrD2ZY

you can see this if you havent already

[fluid ravine]

i have

watched that 4 times

dont know what i want

[polar girder]

qck heavy is ultimate control cloth pad

So artisan zero would be best upgrade that’s little bit faster but still in control

But there are many options

GS-R, Saturn Pro, Zero, EM-C, Aqua Control Plus, etc

[shrewd hatch]

@fluid ravine can i take the pcb off without taking switches out? Tape mod making my shift feel wayyyy too heavy'

[fluid ravine]

Yes you can
unscrew the pcb from plate and just take it out
aand kinda weird how tape mod is making your shift feel heavy although its not making contact with it at all but ok 👍 you do you

[shrewd hatch]

idk fingers feeling tired

[fluid ravine]

then its prob just the stab

not the tape mod

too much grease?

[shrewd hatch]

holee maybe>

?

[fluid ravine]

is it mushy or whatever?

[fluid ravine]

oh

yeah

[shrewd hatch]

ill record sound n show

[fluid ravine]

you need the holee mod to break in

[shrewd hatch]

oh

[fluid ravine]

just spam it

[shrewd hatch]

should i jus stick with it for a bit then

[fluid ravine]

i use the message vibrator thing

[shrewd hatch]

does the greese loosen up over time at all

may have done too mkuch

[loud zephyr]

it's spelt massage

[fluid ravine]

well MY BAD

[untold wigeon]

Hi i scratched my pcb quite deep at the one of the screw holes(can see brass underneath) and one light scratch on one of the key, wil this affect performance 😭

[fluid ravine]

english aint my FIRST language

k ima knock out

gn

[shrewd hatch]

@fluid ravine

[loud zephyr]

your spelling is correct, other word also applies

[untold wigeon]

Help please😭😭

[loud zephyr]

only way to find out is to test it

[untold wigeon]

Everything does work i think 😦

[finite gate]

I went with razer strider for my hybrid pad lalmaoo

was gonna cop a glorious fire but yk glorious

[loud zephyr]

Wootility has a key tester under advanced or try out online keyboard tester

[untold wigeon]

Oh i see okay thank u 😭

[knotty breach]

Guys the l45 is very liger and I don like liger cus I miss click so the l60 is the best for me?

[bronze grove]

It's currently the only alternative.

[knotty breach]

Ok thx

[opal marten]

hi, do i need to calibrate my wooting if i use aftermarket he switch like geon raptor ?

[bronze grove]

The keyboard calibrates every time it powers on. But it expects Wooting Lekker switches.

If the specifications of your aftermarket switches differ from ours, this may negatively affect performance.

[opal marten]

thx for the information

[glacial wind]

move your actuation about .2 higher is the main thing

since the raptors are stronger magnet it makes the starting point more sensitive by a tad

[opal marten]

thx, i will try this when they come

[velvet egret]

Where did people find that the Raptor magnet is stronger than lekker switch magnet?

Can’t seem to find any info about the magnets online

[marble shuttle]

They could compared both of them irl realize geon switches are more sensitive @velvet egret

[wind karma]

same

https://youtu.be/FR9afEFid4Q?si=2PQnekBCOQP1j51u&t=57

how does he know this

more consistent apparently tho

[glacial wind]

it was told by the switch maker that the magnets are roughly 2x more strong

[wind karma]

oh

[glacial wind]

not sure if it's actually posted anywhere, but basically it's from geon himself

[wind karma]

wouldn't that be a bad thing since you'd have to adjust the actuation point?

[glacial wind]

nah it's precisely not really a bad thing because you literally just change your starting point and that's it

like I was using 0.1 wasd before and now I use 0.3 and it feels the same as before

[wind karma]

yeah i mean you only have 3.7mm of adjustment instead of 4mm then?

ik probably no one will use that high of an actuation point but it triggers my OCD lol

[velvet egret]

Thank you @glacial wind!

[cerulean zealot]

Some how it still says it’s a 4mm

^

[wind karma]

yeah the full travel of the switch is 4mm but the sensors on the PCB will detect it if the actuation point is set to 0.1mm because the magnet in the switch is stronger

even if you aren't touching the key?

[spice herald]

that’s why the pro gamer move is to swap the stems

[cerulean zealot]

Franken he switch

[wind karma]

but then there's more friction from the tighter fit...

(OCD acting up)

you may not acre

care*

[glacial wind]

No actually it’s more accurate if anything because you never start out at the actual full 4mm

the thing to keep in mind in basically all HE boards is when it says 0.1mm it's rarely actually 0.1mm and has a small buffer amount

so for example if a board is set to 0.1 it's probably more like 0.3 to 0.6 depending on the company, switch and how much buffer amount they have

it's why if you look up the actual measurement of most keyboards that say 0.1 or 0.2 or whatever it never matches the actual amount (real 0.1mm is an absurdly small amount that most people wouldn't actually use)

this is basically known as the 'deadzone' of the he switch, at least that's what geon calls it when he describes the programming and how they're deciding on how precise to actually make the 0.1 setting

[wind karma]

my brain just exploded i read it for 5 minutes and i think i finally got it lol

[glacial wind]

Yeah basically just imagine that every he board has a buffer amount

In this case raptors just eat into a bit of that buffer

[wind karma]

yes, but that reduces the adjustability of the actuation point?

[glacial wind]

Technically I guess? But not by an actual measurement that would matter

More adjustability isn’t necessarily good or bad. Technically you could go get a weaker magnet and make the lekkers have worse adjustability in comparison - but no one would do that

[wind karma]

wouldn't you need the same magnet strength of the lekkers to have the most adjustability?

[glacial wind]

No I mean by having a weaker magnet you’d technically gain more adjustable range because your buffer zone would increase

[crimson sky]

Yes

[glacial wind]

But that would be dumb to change just for that because who cares if you have 4.4mm or adjustment or 4.7mm for example

Because no one really uses those end limit levels

[crimson sky]

It's not linear tho

[glacial wind]

Well I’m assuming it would cause the reverse issue to happen if you had a weaker magnet

[wind karma]

i'm not exactly sure what the buffer zone is

[crimson sky]

Inverse square law

If wooting switches are x²

Then raptors are (2x)²

X being distance the switch is pressed

And y being the output force

[wind karma]

i would expect that you would need to adjust the actuation point to be 0.3 on the weaker magnet instead of 0.5 on whatever the lekker is using?

[glacial wind]

yeah I know but for whatever reason it doesn't seem to change the actual press amount

i don't know what math/calibration wooting is using but it only seems to change the starting point, haven't noticed any change in actual press stuff beyond that

[glacial wind]

well it depends on what you're talking about if you mean adjustable pts vs adjustable distance

i guess technically you'd end up with the same adjustable distance though but you're moving the starting point

aka raptors start at 0.1, lekkers start at 0.3, a weaker magnet would start at 0.5 (these are random numbers just for example)

[crimson sky]

Look at what i wrote above

x²=(2y)²

X is force of lekkers

Uhh sorry

It's expected force

[glacial wind]

basically the end result is that it doesn't matter and you don't really lose anything except a slightly different start point from what people have noticed

[crimson sky]

On the left

X an y are base forces of the magnets

[crimson sky]

You do tho

If it is twice as strong

[glacial wind]

i'd actually be curious about the math of how it's calibrated though

[crimson sky]

Guh lemme get on pc

[wind karma]

oh

[glacial wind]

yeah I know what you're saying, but what I'm saying is it doesn't seem to apply after

[crimson sky]

And i can explain

[glacial wind]

you're saying the magnet strength would affect the math during the press as well meaning less press distance

[crimson sky]

Harkons razor

It's not twice as strong

[wind karma]

i can't process this information lol

unfortunate for me

[glacial wind]

he's basically saying the magnet math doesn't change in a smooth line

aka not linear

because magnet stuff doesn't work that way

[crimson sky]

Yea

[wind karma]

oh

[crimson sky]

It's inverse square law

Since it is spreading out in 3d space

You measure the force on a plane emitted by the magnet essentially

And since the plane is scaled up with distance it is squared

[glacial wind]

i guess that might actually be why it only affects starting point and seemingly not the rest of the press depending on how they do the math

[crimson sky]

It would still be an issue

Maybe it just isn't twice as strong

It just has the 0.1mm setting higher up

[glacial wind]

yeah, you'd have to see how they programmed it I guess to know what happens exactly there

[wind karma]

im going to fall asleep trying to understand this rn

[glacial wind]

basically it doesn't matter, we're just being nerds about the magnet stuff

for practical usage just make your actuation a little higher if you do use raptors

[wind karma]

yup, clearly you guys know more than i do but

[wind karma]

yeah

my main point was uh

the wooting software only allows for 4mm of actuation with lekker magnets

if the magnet was stronger lets say the first .2mm are not usable so that's 3.8mm of adjustable actuation instead of 4

[crimson sky]

First would always be useable

Last .2mm wouldn't be

[wind karma]

oh wait

[crimson sky]

But if you can't use those you are always in the actuation range

[glacial wind]

yeah basically you'd only lose the last bits of the actuation distance, not the start

[crimson sky]

Assuming calibration doesn't prevent that

[wind karma]

i mean from up to down

if that makes sense

[glacial wind]

so basically technically yes you're right you might lose something at the end of the range maybe, but it's also the range that basically no one uses so you'd never know or care about that part

the only reason you really set something to max actuation press is to not accidentally press it (eg windows key)

[wind karma]

yeah i would never use it personally but it triggers something in my brain

[glacial wind]

if it's something that really bothers you then you'd just stem swap

stem swap = using the lekker magnets anyway

but it would be a pretty silly reason to stem swap vs. the actual reasons you'd do a stem swap (such as wanting tighter switch or whatever else)

[wind karma]

i was thinking of doing that but apparently there's more friction from the tighter fit (apparently) since the lekker stem is (i assume) larger

[glacial wind]

yeah there is, but switch is still usable. You basically have like an L65 or L70 switch after stem swap, even if you use the lighter spring

you could also technically think of it as potentially gaining 0.2 or whatever though in your settings

because your 0.1 setting is more sensitive starting point, so you lose something at the end of the range but gain at the start

[wind karma]

i like it to be around 40-50 grams i think

[glacial wind]

then honestly just don't do the stem swap and keep either the L45 or raptor springs in

[wind karma]

yup i guess so

[proven tendon]

But if it calibrates with the new magnet strength why would you lose any range

Assuming it does

[glacial wind]

it doesn't calibrate is the reason why

it's possible to add calibration but it's not in the wooting because it's programmed to work with lekkers specifically, so it'll always assume lekkers

[wind karma]

it is calibrated for the Lekker switches yeah

[proven tendon]

I would have thought it would just calibrate for whatever magnet

That’s kinda dumb

[glacial wind]

it can be done like that but there was no reason for them to do it before since wooting lekker was the only option

some upcoming boards will have auto calibration for multiple magnets, such as geon's upcoming pcb calibrates for both types, but it's not really wootings fault that 60he doesn't auto calibrate since the standard didn't exist before and wasn't necessary previously

[wind karma]

true, but i'm thinking of stock L45 now though.. the raptors did sound better but the adjustability and effect on RGB bother me for some reason lol

[glacial wind]

rgb would be a thing to worry about, adjustability would be extremely dumb thing to worry about though

the raptors are straight up a better switch just due to stem wobble being better alone, but it does have slightly worse rgb (although honestly you can just blast the rgb brighter and it's still fine)

[wind karma]

yup i agree. the adjustability thing is dumb but my brain doesn't like it

[wind karma]

wouldn't the reds be brighter?

[glacial wind]

eh if it bothers you go with the L45, but it's honestly a worse switch stability wise

[wind karma]

you've tried the L45 right?

[glacial wind]

yeah and the L50 or whatever they had previously

[wind karma]

when did you try the L45

[glacial wind]

when they released earlier on

[wind karma]

oh

[glacial wind]

i didn't use them though because I think they're too light for my preference

went back to L60

then raptors afterwards

[wind karma]

i thought L45's and L60's were the same other than stem colour and spring but

#archived_the_lekker_switch message

the L45 sounds like it has less wobble here?

45*

sorry not 60

[glacial wind]

could just be lube difference, or slight tolerance differences in batches earlier vs later

honestly if sound difference like that is going to bother you then you have to be insane to buy L45 over raptors because the difference there is so much bigger

[wind karma]

true but i think i'd be fine with the sound

as long as it doesn't sound wobbly

[glacial wind]

both lekkers are wobbly.

honestly if wobble is at all a factor for you then picking lekker over raptor is crazy talk

[wind karma]

oh i mean sound wise

[glacial wind]

I believe there were very minor tolerance changes to later batches of switches that did seem to improve wobble a very slight amount (you'll have to look into that though)

but that said the lekkers are all still insanely wobbly by all standards

[wind karma]

so far it seems that is true

[glacial wind]

if it's going to trigger your ocd or whatever then just buy the L45 honestly. It's the worse switch but it's not like the performance is worse, it's just not going to feel or sound as nice

performance wise you don't miss out on anything though

[wind karma]

just a review but i guess it could mean something i dunno

3 days ago

[glacial wind]

i doubt it.

[wind karma]

yeah

[glacial wind]

we have people here with actual video of the L45 vs raptors

[wind karma]

maybe i could deal with the adjustability thing. if the RGB looks normal on 100% brightness then i would get them maybe and springswap

[glacial wind]

if you're hoping your batch of L45 suddenly won't be wobbly then I wouldn't take the bet, it's 100% going to be wobbly

[wind karma]

yup

[wind karma]

well in that case

can you elaborate a bit more on the RGB with the raptors?

[glacial wind]

the top isn't clear so rgb doesn't shine through as well, that's all

[wind karma]

oh

[polar girder]

And it’s tinted red

[wind karma]

yeah that was my main concern ig

[glacial wind]

you can check videos in here of people with it to compare

[agile grove]

but I've heard it actually isnt that bad

[polar girder]

The red isn’t that bad

[agile grove]

you just need to tinker with it

[wind karma]

on one video i saw literally ONLY the spacebar with visible lighting

[glacial wind]

yeah it's basically pretty minor and you can adjust the color tint yourself

[polar girder]

I found the diminished brightness to be more problematic

[glacial wind]

that's cause he probably installed it reverse

[agile grove]

also geon is coming out with white raptors in march I think

[wind karma]

probably

[polar girder]

Yeah

[wind karma]

is that confirmed?

[glacial wind]

people who don't care about rgb installed their switches upside down because it has less chance of messing with compatibility

[agile grove]

yes

[glacial wind]

the downside is you basically completely block the rgb if you do that though and only space shows rgb lol

[agile grove]

he said it on discord I think

[wind karma]

oh i see lol

[wind karma]

alright i appreciate the info

i'll wait 3 months and it would hopefully be the ideal switch (minus the actuation thing ill try to forget about that)

[agile grove]

well

that is if no better switches come out before then

[wind karma]

true

[glacial wind]

yeah no one has tried out the new jade ones from gateron yet or the upcoming super clack neo ones

[wind karma]

jade?

super clack neo?

i didn't hear of these so

[glacial wind]

yeah they're only available in china

not been sold outside yet

[wind karma]

oh

is it different to their other HE switches for materials and other specs

[glacial wind]

well they'll sound different, but we don't know how they'll be exactly

we've only really seen one demo of the neo switches

[wind karma]

hmm okay

[glacial wind]

https://www.zfrontier.com/app/flow/m9oyo3LAXJvb

oh it got taken down lol

[wind karma]

cause i heard lekkers sound the same to some other gateron HE switch

[wind karma]

rip

[glacial wind]

i don't think we've seen the newest gateron switch in use yet

[wind karma]

yup, atleast i haven't

[glacial wind]

the one for wooting at least i haven't seen anyone post any video of it's sound

the neos sound basically like super clacky switches, but very nice sound - just not everyones cup of tea

newer keyboard folk tend to prefer thocky deep sound

[wind karma]

oh i see

[wind karma]

yup i've seen that word way too much times now

can switches sound 'creamy' or is that a result of other mods

[glacial wind]

Creamy is usually that thock sound, and yeah they can depending on what creamy sound you mean

[wind karma]

theres a video of a modded 60HE that has my preferred sound profile which is creamy

with L60s

[glacial wind]

Look up wuque morandi switches on YouTube and that’s kind of what a lot of newer people tend to aim for sound wise

It’s that marble kind of foamy thock sound

It’s not really doable yet properly though because no he switches sound like that so far

[wind karma]

Yeah I like a "deep", "creamy" and "marbly" sound lol

[glacial wind]

It’s kind of an issue with he magnet switches in that people haven’t really found a full solution for it to be thocky yet. At least not as thocky as non he switches

[agile grove]

I wonder what exactly is different about HE switches that makes it hard for them to sound thocky?

so far I've only seen clacky HE switches

[wind karma]

i don't think the wuque morandi switches are exactly my type of sound

these both are basically almost perfection to my ears https://youtu.be/CorB0q9QImw?si=tEfG8L3giLR1yNf7

https://youtu.be/J8ZYO4e2II8?si=nwHsMsoZ-BGnjQyh

[glacial wind]

People guess it’s due to the magnet somehow but I don’t think anyone has definitively figured it out

[glacial wind]

It could be that guys mic too

If you want really deep thock you’ll want cerakey keycaps as well but then it’s a whole rabbit hole of needing heavier springs to manage them

[wind karma]

yeah that's why i sent both videos, i can hear that one sounds quite boosted in the second one. not sure if its a different mic but yeah

the audio is boosted

**

[wind karma]

yeah those sounded really nice but i'm fine without them

[forest dust]

waiting for HE switches to sound like my Oil Kings

[spice herald]

This is what my board sounds like after one week of daily use - the lube has set in on the alphas quite nicely

[wind karma]

i want HE switches that sound like KTT kang whites

[proven tendon]

Can’t wait to hear something other than chattering switches

[shrewd hatch]

What's some good third party stabilizers?

[marble shuttle]

https://tr.aliexpress.com/item/1005003427540826.html?channel=twinner

[shrewd hatch]

Better than eg pandas?

[normal schooner]

checkout #🪛│modding_faq also

🙂

[marble shuttle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mr21id7MDZY

you can compare each other sound tests these stabs is insane imo

[halcyon obsidian]

the difference isn't large but I think the raptors w/lekker stem sound a little better

[sweet cedar]

i believe they are releasing globally on thursday according to the original reddit thread

[fluid ravine]

Good morning

Slept 12 hrs straight :)

[sweet cedar]

i got a solid 3 hours

[normal schooner]

goodmorning tenz

[harsh dove]

Mornin

Laying on my couch with my feet off the edge and curling my toes

[halcyon obsidian]

what is the thocciest build minus cerakeys

[shrewd hatch]

Hey @harsh dove what stabliziers u reckon would be best to go with? Was thinking maybe tx ap

[harsh dove]

To me they sound slightly poppier vs the stock raptors sounded deeper to me which I like and the feel is better on the stock raptors imo

Like when I was stem swapping, I had to pull the lekker stems out of the housing because they were just stuck in there lol , not like literally stuck but the tightness is so tight that it just sits in the top housing

If you’ve ever done switch tape mod, it feels like that but if you did one too many layers

[harsh dove]

Are you talking about plate mount or PCB?

And what’s wrong with your current stabs?

[shrewd hatch]

Honestly not sure, spent the whole day yesterday messing with them to try and make em good but they're sounding terribe

Somehow mushy and rattly at the same time

[halcyon obsidian]

like
raptors
gummy mount
pc plate
poron switch pads
tempest mod w/ (moleskin and masking tape)
tx stabs
alumaze foam

what else for thocc?

[shrewd hatch]

Kinda just wanting a fresh start

[harsh dove]

If they don’t sound like a helicopter then

[shrewd hatch]

Just clip ins

[harsh dove]

Clips in are different than plate mount

[shrewd hatch]

Oh really?

[harsh dove]

I know what you mean but I’m just letting you know when you say clip ins most will assume you mean PCB clip ins

[shrewd hatch]

what's the ones that wooting use

Ahh ok

[harsh dove]

They use plate mount on the wooting60HE but they use screw in stabs on the Module

[shrewd hatch]

👍

U think tx aps are a good choice?

[harsh dove]

But if you’re not happy with your stabs, you can try like holee mod, bandaid mod, etc

And yeah tx Ap are nice just cause they have tight tolerances so there’s no need to mod them

[shrewd hatch]

Yeah I did holee but ended up taking it out, fingers too shaky to get a good fit in them didn't sound or feel tight

[harsh dove]

But I wouldn’t buy them unless you’re not happy with your stabs after tuning

You can try plumbers mod instead of holee

[shrewd hatch]

Might be worth giving that a shot I guess, I'll check it out

[harsh dove]

You just take plumbers tape /teflon tape and wrap 2-3 layers around the ends of the wire that insert into the stem

[shrewd hatch]

Alright might try that soon tyvm

[harsh dove]

Yeah no problem

[shrewd hatch]

Are u using stock stabs yourself?

[harsh dove]

No

[shrewd hatch]

What are you running

[harsh dove]

TX AP

[shrewd hatch]

Right

[shrewd hatch]

Does this go over the grease

Or best to wipe it off

[harsh dove]

Wipe grease off, wrap the wire ends then reapply grease

[shrewd hatch]

Aight sounds good, appreciate it

[pale aspen]

https://www.zfrontier.com/app/flow/AvmKzY36zRba

gateron mad

[uncut musk]

do you guys know of any other good places to buy the tofu redux from besides kbdfans

[shrewd hatch]

Aliexpress

[uncut musk]

ty, yeah for me shipping is like 25/30 dollars so its a little rough from their website

[normal schooner]

because the alumaze looks better

[halcyon obsidian]

its really the only option imo

[normal schooner]

and has adjustable feet

[cyan adder]

cerakeys

[halcyon obsidian]

minus cerakeys

lol

[sand oasis]

adjusted feet is good

iso pc plate coming in jan 100% right?

[agile grove]

cerakeys are goated tho

[pale aspen]

[pale aspen]

[pale aspen]

thick keycap and high profile

like MT3 , SA

or thick cherry like XMI

[halcyon obsidian]

yeah I already have some gmk blue samurais I plan to use which arent the best for thock so I was just looking for every other mod other than caps

[limpid crown]

Guys, should i lube the springs or follow the lubing guide from YT where Calder don't lube them ?

[fluid ravine]

Surprisingly I don't need grease on my 2u stabs

Just lube the housing and stem and call it day

No rattle

The space bar needs tuning, so yeah I use grease on that

But overall really good stabs

[fluid ravine]

You should lube the springs

[limpid crown]

Ahh fine, so should i lube them like from the inside or from the outside of the spiral?

[fluid ravine]

The ends of the springs are fine

I personally lube the whole thing

Cus I'm like that

[harsh dove]

I throw my springs in a petri dish with superlube oil and shake em around

[wind karma]

does the type of lube on the spring matter

is 105 good

[limpid crown]

If i where to throw them on a bag, i only have the Krytox 205g from wooting

[harsh dove]

I would just do both ends of the springs with 205g0, not the whole thing

[wind karma]

so its fine if the middle is entirely dry?

[harsh dove]

Yeah

[wind karma]

alright

[harsh dove]

It’ll get lubed from the switch stem if you lubed that or the bottom housing

[wind karma]

alrigh

[limpid crown]

Do you lube the inside parte or the outside part of the spiral of the spring ?

[harsh dove]

I do the inside and outside on either end

[sleek trench]

Has anyone had success doing the gummy o-ring mod with the silicone pad? Im having a tough time fitting the module back into my tofu redux and am wondering if need to use the foam pad instead or if I got the wrong o-ring (too thick maybe?)

[harsh dove]

Not possible

I’ve tried it

Use the foam or use nothing

Also have the keep in mind, the harder is it to get in, the harder it’s going to be to get out

So you don’t want it to be super hard to get in

Otherwise you’ll probably snap your keyboard in half in anger to get it out

[sleek trench]

sounds like a plan! thanks for the feedback, ill switch over to using the foam 😄

[sweet cedar]

foam sounds better anyways

[harsh dove]

Yeah

[halcyon obsidian]

https://youtu.be/hTc9N2-SeQs?si=LJF_BpqXId3KAPXe

@fluid ravine

since I saw you were looking for a new mousepad

[harsh dove]

Ima try these out for fun

[marble shuttle]

damm i wish i have a mentality like this

😄

[harsh dove]

lol

[marble shuttle]

iam readying myself frog mini 😄 i cant buy anything

[harsh dove]

Putting your wooting in a frog mini?

Which one you gonna get?

[marble shuttle]

yeah

silver wk a

[harsh dove]

Oh okay nice

[marble shuttle]

will buy geon switches too

[harsh dove]

The raptors?

[marble shuttle]

yes

[fluid ravine]

HI Tuna

[harsh dove]

Nice nice

[marble shuttle]

hi tenz how are you

[fluid ravine]

doing gud hbu

getting my breakfast rn even though its 1:18pm

[marble shuttle]

nice i will sleep after drink my coffee 😄

[fluid ravine]

[marble shuttle]

also i will buy alu plate from manifacture maybe i can buy the plate geon site too

[marble shuttle]

i will upgrade frog mini 😎

[sweet cedar]

r there any sound tests with wooting and frog mini yet

[marble shuttle]

yeah @wary pollen did it

you can find on youtube

[fluid ravine]

ooo

i seee iu

[marble shuttle]

silver

😱

rmvse scroll wheel

😱

[halcyon obsidian]

the rvmse scroll wheel is pretty dark

[sweet cedar]

i just listened

sounds pretty good

[marble shuttle]

right ?

and foamless

its insane

iam wondering with wooting foam

[sweet cedar]

wouldnt hurt to try it out

[marble shuttle]

actually you dont need foam with that premium case

[sweet cedar]

its tray mount righr

[marble shuttle]

there is none standoffs on that

[sweet cedar]

oh really

so would u gummy o ring mount

[marble shuttle]

you have to make plate for it

[sweet cedar]

oh okay

[marble shuttle]

and there is a file which is you can send manifacturer they can do it

[sweet cedar]

what r the material options

for custom plates

[marble shuttle]

alu

in my country i can only found alu material

[sweet cedar]

alu would probably sound great anyways in the frog

im gonna use the pc plate in the redux

[marble shuttle]

i didnt like pc plate on wooting tbh

stock one came great in my ears

[halcyon obsidian]

it prolly has to do with aluminum in plastic Vs pc in aluminium

because pc in stock its just plastic in plastic

[marble shuttle]

no actually because of switches

lekkers are ass

no matter what you do still acoustic will same even if you change the plates

[harsh dove]

Lekkers are amazing

[marble shuttle]

iam wondering geons

irl

[fluid ravine]

nah the black peppers

😎

[sand oasis]

so tempted to order the raptors

[marble shuttle]

they added on aliexpress too

but little pricey for me

thanks for shipping and taxe

taxes

i will get it with frog mini

[harsh dove]

The Black Pepper Lekkers

[marble shuttle]

bro lets trade with my 5 dollar keyboard deal ?

[harsh dove]

Okay

[marble shuttle]

literally better than wooting

better rapit trigger

[harsh dove]

I bet

[fluid ravine]

fo weel

bes keebord eva

[marble shuttle]

booooooom

[fluid ravine]

weeeeoewww

[marble shuttle]

hahahahaahah

[fluid ravine]

doubel U

[marble shuttle]

idk why photo is 14p

144p

[fluid ravine]

nao tats ay gaymin keebord

[fluid ravine]

😂

[harsh dove]

Left: Raptor x Lekker Stem
Right: Stock Raptor
Both Hand Lubed

[velvet egret]

I bet IRL the sound difference is even bigger

[quiet bay]

Competition for best wooting sound when? 🤔

[fluid ravine]

im good 😂

not gonna talk about how mine sounds like atm

lel

or look 💀

[harsh dove]

It's still very minor but noticeable enough

Mainly feel is diff

[quiet bay]

Based on sound nit looks

[harsh dove]

to me

[velvet egret]

Doesn't really work due to everyone prefrence being different xD

[fluid ravine]

then we seperate the categories

clack, thock, clock, cream, crack, thack,

idk 😂

[quiet bay]

Ermm

Too many

[halcyon obsidian]

everyone pref can be different but someone will still come out as a winner because a majority will have voted for them

[quiet bay]

Just clack, cream, and thock

[fluid ravine]

lol

[quiet bay]

True

[agile grove]

cream and thock are so similar and the main ones I see in here are clack and thock so just keep it to those two

[halcyon obsidian]

I kinda like that marbly sound

like a sweet spot inbetween cream and thock

[harsh dove]

What sound do you guys consider these? lol

[halcyon obsidian]

I would say an inbetween of clack and thock

[quiet bay]

I have a creamy build

[quiet bay]

thack

[agile grove]

clack in the center thock on the outside

[harsh dove]

Fair enough, people do seem to say the Raptors are more clack

[halcyon obsidian]

truers

[harsh dove]

big true

[agile grove]

what are the benefits of not screwing inthe screw by the spacebar?

or, the difference I should say

[fluid ravine]

in pochizo we trust

[gaunt linden]

@fluid ravine my keyboard now works but the keycaps feel heavy and don’t come Back up fully

[fluid ravine]

keep spammiong it

even fixing my left shift it still doesnt return all the way last night
spent this morning spamming it

[halcyon obsidian]

I still think the frankenswitch has a little more thock

[fluid ravine]

now it works perfectly fine

nah the frank switch is poppier

[quiet bay]

poppier and cleaner sound

[halcyon obsidian]

I'm so excited to do my wooting build but I still got like another month until the module ships out

[sweet cedar]

bro same

i have everything else

but the module

[halcyon obsidian]

I already got my tofu/weight

[sweet cedar]

same

and i have my switches and keycaps

[halcyon obsidian]

yeah I got the caps too

I just need to order the raptors, some more lube cause im low, some switch pads, and I'll probably buy some other modding stuff like the o-ring, tape, stab pads but all thats pretty cheap

but I got like entire month to purchase it all so I'm not pressed

[sweet cedar]

im probably keeping mine pretty simple

the only other things i migth do is change out stabs

but im gonna stick with screw ins

[halcyon obsidian]

yeah I got tx ap rev4s already coming

cause you can't gummy mount the screw ins

[sweet cedar]

i was debating buying the gateron ink screw ins but the module comes with the normal gateron screw ins so idk if there would be a big difference there

[harsh dove]

That’s what I think too

[sweet cedar]

and by the time my module comes hopefully the new gateron he switches r out

[halcyon obsidian]

yeah I was also waiting to order my raptors because a little closer to time since a lot of he innovation seems to keep happening quickly

[sweet cedar]

yea exactly there will be so much new stuff coming this year

[halcyon obsidian]

but at the same time switches are like 40 dollars for a set of 60-70 so I ain't too pressed and can always be swapped out

[valid sun]

Has anyone modded a two he ?

[agile delta]

hii, anyone know the raw data frame size to the wooting 60 he? c:
pliss, if anyone can say me, thx so much!

[austere creek]

depends on how many keys are pressed

i also assume you just mean the keyboard interface

[agile delta]

yes!

[halcyon obsidian]

so what is the new gateron switch coming out?

https://discord.com/channels/167181566978555904/1186418994509529198

since we talked about a voting for the best sounding wooting build I made this!

I hope a bunch of people will participate

@harsh dove @fluid ravine

@quiet bay @pallid echo

@glacial wind

[fluid ravine]

Ah shi-

[halcyon obsidian]

feel free to tag other ppl under this to encourage them to post these are just some ppl I know who are active

[fluid ravine]

am allowed to use my previous configs from one of my 3 logs

like my fav one

my board atm is in construction (or whatever the word is)

[halcyon obsidian]

I'd prefer ppl to use there current config but whatever is good!

[fluid ravine]

alright

its in work rn

haha

[halcyon obsidian]

you can use ur fav

[fluid ravine]

bet bet

[halcyon obsidian]

its not a big deal just list what you had done to it

[fluid ravine]

alright posted mine

[halcyon obsidian]

W

and feel free to @ anyone you want to post under it, I hopefully want to see 10+ builds

[fluid ravine]

@inland ocean @gentle silo

@shell geode

yall down? ^

[shell geode]

Thank you for the invite, but I'll pass. Good luck to whoever is entering!

[wind karma]

sindria!

[halcyon obsidian]

yes!

[wind karma]

do you own a wooting keyboard?

we seem to have the same preferred sound profile btw ! cool right ik

[halcyon obsidian]

I purchased a module that will be coming but I don't have one yet

[wind karma]

ohh

well you said you liked marbly keyboards yeah